The Charlie Kirk Show

Episode: Dennis Prager on God, Evil, and Charlie
Air Date: February 24, 2026
Main Guests: Dennis Prager, Oscar Ramirez
Host: Charlie Kirk

Episode Overview

This episode is a heartfelt exploration of faith, morality, suffering, and legacy, centered on a poignant conversation between Charlie Kirk's colleagues and Dennis Prager. The group discusses Prager's new book, "If There Is No God: The Battle Over Who Defines Good and Evil," the profound impact Prager had on the late Charlie Kirk, and broader existential questions about evil and human suffering. The first segment offers a deep dive into the recent cartel violence in Mexico, featuring border journalist Oscar Ramirez.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Mexican Cartel Violence & US Involvement (00:09 – 11:19)

• Oscar Ramirez, reporting from Mexico, recounts the escalating violence following the assassination of cartel leader "El Mencho," including attacks in tourist zones and narco-blockades near the US border.
• The violence is interpreted as a direct response to US intelligence support in the operation.
• Ramirez describes the Mexican government's conflicted messaging, President Claudia Sheinbaum's attempts to appear in control, and predicts further unrest as leadership vacuums form.
• The panel critiques the US government’s inconsistent approach to security threats at the border, contrasting foreign wars with the cartel crisis next door.

Oscar Ramirez (03:08):
"This tells you the level of audacity of the cartel... they burned that vehicle in front of a post on the... American territory with a huge camera from US Customs... just to tell the American government, 'We know you provided the information for our leader to be executed.'"

Blake (10:01):
"What was so insane is just the visual of literal cartel members... armored cars, armored vehicles, rocket launcher, heavy weaponry... And all I can think is this is a country that borders the United States..."

Timestamps

• 01:09 — Ruiz interview begins
• 03:10 — Evidence of cartel “audacity” at US border
• 04:38 — CNGJ Cartel’s ranking and methods
• 07:09 — Predicting future policy and violence
• 11:03 — Commentary on US response (border vs. foreign wars)

2. "Bigotry of Low Expectations" & Exploitation in Politics (12:54 – 18:08)

• Commentary on political pandering to black voters, referencing quotes and moments from Gavin Newsom, Hillary Clinton, and studies about vocabulary choices by white liberals.
• Panel critiques "the most racist crap" from Democratic politicians and the so-called "bigotry of low expectations" they observe.

Charlie Kirk (15:48):
"He [Gavin Newsom] is the fakest person I think I've ever met in my entire life. So synthetic. And honestly, that's very dangerous."

Timestamps

• 13:04 — "Poor kids are just as bright..." soundbite
• 15:48 — Kirk recalls meeting Newsom: “stone cold... no inhibitions whatsoever when it comes to deceit or lying...”

3. Reflecting on Charlie Kirk’s Legacy & Introduction of Dennis Prager (18:18 – 21:48)

• Moving transition into the main interview with Dennis Prager, highlighting his influence and mentorship of Charlie.
• Co-hosts and Prager discuss the scale and energy of the Turning Point USA movement and Charlie Kirk’s personal impact.

Dennis Prager (18:58):
"Charlie called me, I would say almost every week for at least five or eight years... The whole idea of Shabbat came from our interactions."

Timestamps

• 18:58 — Prager describes mentor relationship with Charlie

4. Prager's Moral Philosophy & the "Dog or Stranger" Question (24:42 – 26:54)

• Prager explains his famous moral thought experiment ("If your beloved dog and a stranger are drowning, who do you save first?").
• He illustrates the danger of substituting feelings for values, and how widespread this thinking is.

Dennis Prager (26:10):
"I love my dog is an emotion. Humans are created in God's image is a value. That's why I would save a stranger before my beloved dogs."

Timestamps

• 24:42 — Explanation of the dog vs. stranger dilemma

5. Morality, Evil, and the Problem of Suffering (29:41 – 36:47)

• Reflecting on grief after Charlie's assassination and the online reaction.
• Prager discusses the dangers when humans, instead of God, define good and evil: moral inversions like justifying Nazism or modern equivalents.
• The conversation pivots to the enduring "problem of pain"—why a good God allows evil and suffering.
• Prager asserts that suffering must be contemplated before personal tragedy strikes and frames human free will as fundamental.

Dennis Prager (31:39):
"People need to deal with that issue before tragedy strikes in their life. If you start thinking about that question only once you've been hurt, it's too late."

(34:42):
"We would be robots otherwise; life would lose its meaning. People would no longer be a free species."

Dennis Prager (36:47):
"I think God, in my case, God allowed gravity... to take its course. Well, what was he supposed to do? Stop it from happening to me?... I wrote this stuff decades before what happened to me."

Timestamps

• 29:41 — On the "battle over who defines good and evil"
• 31:39 — On suffering and the problem of evil

6. Legacies—Personal and Public (37:32 – 39:46)

• Prager describes dedicating his new book to the late Charlie Kirk, reflecting on the remarkable intertwining of their legacies.
• The group expresses continued commitment to carrying on Charlie’s vision and Prager’s moral framework.

Dennis Prager (37:34):
"I dedicated my book, which is coming out now, if there is no God, to Charlie... I still to this day, I find that almost as unbelievable as my... my paralysis. Charlie Kirk is dead. It's this vibrant, incredibly young man."

Dennis Prager (39:14):
"I just ask your listeners and viewers to order a copy of 'If There Is No God.' It will change lives."

Timestamps

• 37:32 — Mutual inspiration between Kirk and Prager
• 39:14 — Prager’s final appeal

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Faith and Mission:
  Charlie Kirk: “If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful.” (00:03)

• On Evil and Suffering:
  Dennis Prager: "If man determines... what is good and evil, then you can have moral inversions where the Nazis are good guys... You have that now in the Middle East..." (30:16)

• On Values Over Emotions:
  Dennis Prager: “Stop focusing on intentions. Focus on the actions. It’s a much better way to judge whether or not something is right or wrong.” (28:37, quoted by Charlie)

• On Charlie's Legacy:
  “We still have his seat open here in the studio, Dennis, and we'll never fill it, but it's a comfort.” (38:22)

Conclusion

This episode serves as a tribute to both Dennis Prager and Charlie Kirk, weaving together urgent topics like international crime and national security, with deeply personal meditations on suffering, morality, faith, and leadership. Prager’s wisdom and Kirk’s legacy shine throughout—a conversation ultimately about how immutable values, grounded in God, provide clarity and purpose amid chaos.

For more info: Visit charliekirk.com and consider reading Dennis Prager’s “If There Is No God: The Battle Over Who Defines Good and Evil.”