Leaving the Left + AMA 273

Summary

The Charlie Kirk Show – "Leaving the Left + AMA 273" (July 24, 2026)

Overview

This episode centers on two main themes: first, an in-depth interview with Evan Barker, a former Democrat fundraiser and operative who has publicly renounced progressive politics, detailing her disillusionment and critiques of the modern left; and second, a live 'Ask Me Anything' (AMA) session featuring audience questions on surveillance, political movements, GOP strategy, and contemporary events. The discussion is framed by the show's unapologetically conservative, activist perspective, with guest contributions from Michael Watley (NC Republican Senate Candidate), Blake, Danny, and host Andrew Colvett (standing in for Charlie Kirk).

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Key Segments & Themes

1. Evan Barker: "Leaving the Left" (01:17–15:42)

Background & Book

• Evan Barker is introduced as a former Democrat operative and prolific fundraiser ("You raised over $50 million for Democrats, some of them very far left" – [02:08], Andrew).
• Author of Nothing Left: Confessions of a Democrat Operative.

Barker’s Journey out of the Democratic Party

• Catalyst moment: Barker, disillusioned after the 2024 DNC, made a TikTok video effectively resigning from the party. The video rapidly went viral, catching attention from media, conservatives, and Charlie Kirk.

  "I posted a video on TikTok. I thought it was only going to go out to like 60 people... Instead I woke up and there was millions of views..."
  – Evan Barker [04:47]

Disillusionment Factors

• Shift from Economic Populism: Inspired by early Obama and Sanders for economic reasons ("The pre-existing conditions clause of [Obamacare] really helped me... so I thought that the Democratic Party fought for people like me" – [06:26], Barker), but noted the movement’s shift toward race/identity and far-left social issues (defunding police, trans issues).

• Internal Party Practices: Described a systemic push for leadership and hiring quotas based on race and gender, directly tied to funding decisions by groups like Soros’ organizations.

  "There was a systemic push in the party to discriminate against white people. And it came down on high from the very highest levels of the party."
  – Evan Barker [11:24]

• Anecdote: Shared the story of a left-wing donor's voicemail: "If you are not a woman of color, please do not bother leaving a voicemail. I won't donate to you."
  – Recap via Andrew (12:00)

• On identity politics:

  "[Democrats] believed they could recreate [Obama’s] coalition... by going towards a demographics-as-destiny idea... they no longer felt like they needed to win back the white working class people like my family."
  – Evan Barker [13:07]

Notable Quotes

• On the party's donor/consultant culture:

  "Her book abounds with busybody advocacy groups, donor advisory networks, and consultancies run by know-nothing 20-somethings..."
  – Andrew [09:13], reading a Wall Street Journal review

Interview Wrap-up

• Barker’s book is framed as a confessional and a warning about modern progressive activism, race politics, and the party's detachment from working-class values.
• Multiple guests thank Barker for her candor and express intent to have her return for further discussion.

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2. Crime and the 2026 North Carolina Senate Race (17:06–28:01)

Michael Watley Interview

• Michael Watley (former RNC Chair, running for US Senate in NC) animatedly discusses:

  • His campaign focus: crime, illegal immigration, and economic concerns.

  • Critique of Democrat Roy Cooper:

    “Roy Cooper... is the worst governor that we have ever seen, the most pro-criminal governor that we've ever had in North Carolina."
    – Michael Watley [18:38]

    • Cooper’s alleged release of 4,200 inmates during COVID; many rearrested, some for murder and sexual crimes.
    • Cooper’s support for progressive causes (BLM protests, sanctuary cities, opposition to the Parents Bill of Rights and prohibitions on gender surgeries for minors).

  • "Crime and radical politics" are presented as key wedge issues for turnout.

• Voting patterns in NC: Watley notes the state’s ‘purple’ status with a high proportion of unaffiliated voters who "hate crazy," making moderation and crime/pocketbook issues decisive ([23:11]–[24:57]).

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3. The 'Shiloh' Case & Free Speech Concerns (29:21–35:51)

Overview

• The case of Shiloh Hendricks, a white woman charged and convicted of disorderly conduct after a filmed altercation with a Somali child and bystander in Minnesota, is dissected as an example of what hosts call 'legalized anti-white discrimination.'

• Debate centers on the double standards around hate speech, freedom of expression, and the erosion of safe public spaces:

  "You don't get criminally prosecuted. You don't have your First Amendment rights taken away. You're allowed to say mean things to people if they're in your face..."
  – Blake [31:36]

Memorable Exchange

• The crew repeatedly expresses that while her words were inappropriate, the principle of free speech is paramount, and the prosecution is described as “pure, unadulterated example of anti-white discrimination that has been legalized in our judicial system.”
  – Andrew [34:47]

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4. AMA: Audience Q&A (37:43–73:20)

4.1. Flock Cameras & Surveillance State Fears ([38:10]–[45:41])

• Flock cameras: AI-enhanced license plate readers that record all vehicle data and offer law enforcement new tools to track suspects.

• Hosts summarize privacy concerns, arguing this tech enables potential abuse by officials (e.g., stalking pro-lifers, ex-partners) and deepens a growing surveillance state.

• Multiple perspectives offered: the need to fight crime vs. the risk of government overreach and erosion of civil liberties.

• Proposals debated, including conditional or location-specific adoption and returning to policing basic criminality first.

  “It creates such a way for... the FBI... to build data [on religious groups]... It's a little too much information for the government to just be passively collecting at all times.”
  – Blake [41:41]–[43:30]

4.2. Color Revolutions & Domestic Parallels ([45:45]–[54:08])

• Audience asks about "color revolutions" (regime change tactics using mass protest and media manipulation, often externally influenced).

• The panel draws direct parallels to tactics seen in the 2020 US election and George Floyd/BLM protests. NGO and media coordination are highlighted, and Rachel Maddow’s discussion of the “3.5% rule” (a minority can catalyze regime change) is played and analyzed.

  “Those same actors that orchestrated [color revolutions] are now domestic activists... It's a total real thing.”
  – Andrew [52:00]

4.3. State of MAGA/ America First Movement ([55:09]–[62:35])

• The movement is said to be in "turmoil" due to foreign policy rifts (notably Iran), a sense of unmet expectations about Trump’s transformative abilities, administrative stumbles, the Senate’s slow progress, and ongoing PR crises.

• Breakdown of different right-wing groupings: neocons, plan trusters, dissidents, libertarians, and accelerationists.

• Key challenge: converting movement energy into turnout, especially among "low-propensity" Trump-aligned voters.

  “It’s a lot easier to change for the worse than change for the better... Trying to reverse a lot of this stuff takes a while.”
  – Danny [57:37]

4.4. Strategy to Defeat Republican "Rhinos" ([62:35]–[69:42])

• Audience member asks about plans to remove establishment GOP senators ("scumbag rhinos") and incentivize more accountability.
• Blake and Andrew outline the slow, incremental nature of changing the Senate—retirements, primaries, and the effect of longer terms.
• Emphasis is placed on getting candidates like Michael Watley elected, and the importance of putting elected officials on the record with votes.

4.5. Can Supreme Court Justices Be Removed? (71:08–73:19)

• Question focused on Amy Coney Barrett's alleged moderation under threat, and the possibility of removing justices for lack of courage or fitness.
• Answer: impeachment and 2/3 Senate vote is required—nearly impossible in practice unless for definite misconduct.

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Noteworthy Moments & Quotes

• Evan Barker on her “confessions”:

  “This book is called Confessions of a Democratic Operative. So I have to confess my own sins too, right? ...The very first thing I did [in hiring] is Google [applicants'] names...to see what their race was, to see if they were a man. And if they were, I didn’t set up interviews.”
  – [10:24]

• Michael Watley on Roy Cooper:

  “Roy Cooper’s got blood on his hands. I wish that story was the end of it, but there are 24 other families...”
  – [20:20]

• On public space and social fabric:

  “America’s public spaces, which are free, have been overrun by migrants, by criminals, by people that are transgressive and antisocial.”
  – Andrew [32:29]

• On MAGA’s coalition:

  “MAGA has shrunk. The question is whether or not the coalition, when it comes to picking somebody for office, has shrunk... They're probably just going to opt out.”
  – Andrew [59:00]

• On color revolutions:

  "It's a way of laundering a political change that often powerful people want to have happen..."
  – Blake [47:04]

• On the left's strategy, referencing Rachel Maddow:

  “You only need three and a half percent of really dedicated population to get behind these revolutionary tactics to be true believers and you can overthrow the government.”
  – Andrew [53:53], paraphrasing the Maddow clip

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Key Timestamps

• 01:17 – Intro, Evan Barker interview begins
• 05:38 – Barker describes viral TikTok resignation
• 09:49 – Deep dive on race and funding in Democratic politics
• 13:07 – Analysis of the left’s demographics-focused strategy
• 17:36 – Michael Watley (Senate candidate) discussion
• 29:21 – Shiloh case; speech, race, and public order discourse
• 37:43 – Start of AMA Q&A
• 38:10 – Flock cameras debate
• 45:45 – Color revolution tactics explained
• 55:09 – State of the MAGA/America First movement
• 62:35 – "Defund the rhinos" and GOP strategy
• 71:08 – On removing justices from Supreme Court

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Tone & Style

The episode is highly conversational, candid, and direct—often passionate, at times irreverent, and deeply rooted in the culture war frame. The hosts repeatedly employ humor, hyperbole ("I just want to punch the guy"), and anecdote, with extended asides on tactics and political philosophy. The dialogue maintains a consistently anti-left, pro-conservative point of view.

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Conclusion

This episode provides a revealing portrait of the Republican grassroots’ current anxieties and ambitions, with the defection story of Evan Barker serving as both diagnosis and warning about the left’s internal culture and priorities. The hour-two AMA gives listeners a window into conservative strategy, privacy and tech concerns, factionalism on the right, and tactics for both movement-building and internal party reform. For those outside the conservative movement, it’s an instructive look at how today’s activism and ideological struggles are being discussed and operationalized at the grassroots.

Transcript

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Andrew Colvett]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Andrew Colvett]

all right. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's Friday, July 24, 2026, and we are at the Y Refi Studios, both remote and in Phoenix, Arizona. Likes holding it down with the mic flag.

[Blake]

You keep calling it the Mobile Y Refi Studio, but I feel like only one Y Refi Studio has.

[Andrew Colvett]

I don't want to bicker with you today. It's Friday. I'm feeling light and airy because it's Friday. We're rolling into the weekend. It's going to be a great weekend. We're going to start off today's show with a bang. If you saw the Cold Open with Elon Musk, that was a great interview. I recommend people watch it. He did a great job in that. But we've got Evan Barker. Evan Barker is somebody that I have been following for a while. She's a former Democrat operative and fundraiser. She raised over $50 million for Democrats, some of them very far left. And she's the author of a new book called Nothing Left, Confessions of a Democrat Operative. Evan, welcome to the show. It's great to have you. I cannot wait to have this discussion. So good to see you. Welcome, welcome.

[Evan Barker]

Yeah. Long time no see. I think I saw you at a tournament.

[Andrew Colvett]

I know, right? I have. I was gonna say I've. I've met you in person once. It was brief because I am always running around like a crazy person at our events, but I saw you there and it's great to have you on the show. I this was something that we planned to do with Charlie because we were in touch just, you know, here and there. And I saw your journey play out. You have this new book and it's Confessions. It's nothing left. Confessions of a Democrat Operative. You raised over $50 million for Democrats. You've worked with people that people listening to the show will have heard of. Abdul El Sayed. You worked with AOC's team, with Bernie's team, with Jasmine Crockett. You've at least been around the same circles as Ilhan Omar, Jamal Bowman, Brad Lander, Cori Bush Justice Democrats and other DSA aligned PACs. And then something happened. You put out, put out a TikTok to your 60 followers and your world forever changed. Why don't you start there?

[Evan Barker]

Yeah, my world forever changed that day. You know, I went to the DNC in 2024 just like you did. I think we briefly talked about how you guys were also there. And at that point I had actually been out of progressive politics for a couple of years. I had a little baby boy in June of 2022. And after I had him, I decided to take a step back from fundraising and just focus on being a mom. And we can talk more later about how motherhood actually also helped reshape my political views quite a bit. But I decided in 2024, after it was apparent that Joe Biden would not be the nominee to go to the Democratic National Convention and the hopes that I might see them remake themselves. At this point, I was already a little disillusioned, to say the least. Just because all of the horrible experiences I had working for all of those people that you just mentioned. I went to the DNC and I gave myself permission to be re inspired. But when I got there and I saw it in person, it was easy, even worse than I remembered. And I knew at that moment that there was no way in hell Kamala Harris was going to win. And I actually ended up leaving night three of the DNC right after Oprah Winfrey spoke. And I write about this in my book. I left and I came home a day early. And when I got home, I decided that I was officially, truly done working in Democratic politics. And. And so I posted a video on TikTok. I thought it was only going to go out to like 60 people. The people that I worked with followed me. And I want it was basically my resignation letter. And instead I woke up and there was millions of views and Charlie Kirk DM'd me it was like people were talking about it on Fox News. Like it was. It turned into this like totally whirlwind experience that I was not prepared for at all.

[Blake]

So I brought it up here. I have your book in front of me in PDF. I'm getting a big kick out of this. Before Oprah's speech was over, I was out the door. This is not the party I once supported. There is nothing left. I like that image. But you mentioned that this was the culmination of very negative experiences you had with all those other candidates that had been kind of this cascade of bad stuff. Can you elaborate on that? Because, I mean, it's one thing, politics is a lot of work, but I gather it's something more than that. It's like ideologically very negative.

[Evan Barker]

Yeah, you know, I started support. So I grew up in a union family. Like my mom's side of the family. They're all. They were all like union Democrats. My grandpa was like an elected official in the union and the laborers, construction worker, union carpenters, bricklayers. And you know, I grew up supporting Dems. And I got activated by Obama's campaign in 2008, the Affordable Care act. The pre existing conditions clause of it really helped me because I'm also born with a preexisting lung disease similar to cystic fibrosis. And so, you know, I thought that the Democratic Party fought for people like me. And over time I watched my own family members slowly turn against them. And at first it was confusing to me, but once I started working deeper in the progressive movement, I had worked with establishment Democrats prior to 2018, but after Donald Trump was elected in 2016, I started working with more of the far left wing of the party. And I was really inspired at that time by Bernie Sanders message because he was the anti establishment option in the Democratic Party. And I was frustrated with the establishment for in my view, not really doing anything except for the status quo for people. And I blamed them for my family's disaffection. But once I got into Bernie's movement, you know, and I visited, I was actually with AOC and Bernie the very first day they ever met you guys. Like the first, very first day at a rally in Kansas. It was one month after she won her primary upset. It was their first joint appearance together. And you know, at first the, the progressive populist movement seemed good. It seemed like they were focused on economic populism that, you know, and then as it changed, it began to change with aoc, it began to change with Rashida Tlaib. And Ayanna Pressley and Ilhan Omar and all of these. It was all this, these other issues that they started bringing into it like defund the police and abolishing ICE and all of this, you know, the trans ideology and especially for me it was the race politics to be honest with you. Because you know, I grew up in a working class family. I've like lived in trailer parks, you know, growing up as a kid and my parents, mom and grandma still really, really struggle. And I would be in these zoom meetings where I was expected to espouse my privilege to people and say that I was privileged just because of one aspect of me, which is my skin color. And it just felt so wrong. And then it just kept getting worse and worse.

[Andrew Colvett]

I'm reading a Wall Street Journal review of your book and it says this gentleman says the value in Ms. Barker's memoir, other than the laughs, lies in the its depiction of her party's biggest and least acknowledged problem. Its guilt ridden donors and the web of cash flush activist groups, anti capitalist nonprofits and issue oriented super PACs they sustain. Her book abounds with busybody advocacy groups, donor advisory networks and consultancies run by know nothing 20 somethings. The, the donor aspect of the left wing apparatus is very fascinating to me but you know, I did bring up the race issue so take this wherever you want to go.

[Evan Barker]

Well actually they're completely tied in together so you know, starting. Well there were glimpses of this before 2020, but especially after 2020, I would say that the donor class in conjunction with the consultant class and the Democratic party completely changed the leadership class of the Democratic party by absolutely demanding full submission to these racial politics ideologies. And what I mean by that is I actually heard and this is not something that was ever publicly announced. Right. So the general public doesn't even know about this. But like George Soros organization for instance, they put out a pledge to only fund organizations in the Democratic party that were led by people of color for five years. Which is, I mean I saw personally people that were turned down for jobs because you know, the organization realized they needed to have like the right identity leading their organization or they would could be denied funding. And it just, it had a real systemic effect. You know, I myself I, you know, was pressured at times. You know, there was a lot of social and peer pressure to not hire white men especially. I feel very bad about this but you know I. This book is called Confessions of a Democratic Operative. So I have to confess my own sins too, right? I You know, I was in positions of hiring and when I would get resumes, the very first thing I did is Google their names on the Internet to see what their race was, to see if they were a man. And if they were, I didn't set up interviews with them. And this happened all throughout the Democratic Party. There was a systemic push in the party to discriminate against white people. And it came down on high from the very highest levels of the party.

[Andrew Colvett]

That is not only racist, it's just so bad. I mean, you have a white so bad now. And so I can imagine you wrestling with this because on the one hand you're like, I like that I could get health care because of what Obama did, which I can acknowledge in your personal position, you could appreciate that. And yet it comes with all this other stuff. There's another story from your book. There was one of the donors had a voicemail message and it announces, if you are not a woman of color, please do not bother leaving a voicemail. I won't donate to you. Still another, an heiress to an oil fortune lavishes money on left wing groups. Ms. Barker reasonably surmises, quote, to try and right her family's wrongs. This, the way you paint is, it's just so systemic and so unspoken that you don't even need a written rule somewhere or policy somewhere. It was just the culture and continues to be the culture of the left. You said that the Democrats learned the wrong lesson from Obama and they completely turned instead of to uniting race, you know, I guess colorblindness, as Obama kind of put it, they turn to identity politics and that has been their undoing.

[Evan Barker]

Yeah, they, they believed that they could recreate his coalition by going towards a demographics as destiny idea. And so to me, what that always meant is that they no longer felt like they needed to win back the white working class people like my family in the middle of the country. And honestly, they didn't want to win those people back either because they thought that they could just continue winning by appealing to young people and people of color. Well, you know, as we saw in the 2024 election, a lot of young people ended up voting for Donald Trump and so did a lot of people of color. Because the reality is, is that the white working class and working class people of other races actually share a lot of the same values. And for some reason the Democrats don't understand this. It's part of the reason they have this obsession with flipping Texas. Even though they're not going to flip Texas, they think Texas is more valuable in working towards than a place like where I come from in Missouri where more recently they elected a Democrat to statewide than in Texas. And it's because they know that they would need to moderate in order to win Missouri and they refuse to do that. They won't do it.

[Blake]

This is all incredible. I'm just, I'm looking through the book here. I like one of your candidate you were speaking with and then she was keeping in touch with you afterwards and she wanted to talk to me about her dating life and have me set her up on dates but she refused to date white men. She said she was physically repulsed by them just.

[Evan Barker]

And if you keep reading it, she ends up going on ayahuasca journey. And the whole point is to I guess rid herself of the demons from her white ancestry because she's mixed race. So it was, it was almost like a racial exorcism.

[Andrew Colvett]

It's so racist. It's so racist. In the projection from the left is that we're all a bunch of racists. You saw that Jasmine Crockett quote from just this week with the Smithsonian hearing talking about this was a white pride rally at the, at the, at the Congress. Evan Barker, thank you so much. I want to have you on again soon to keep talking about this. We're going to. I mean I think it's a really important story that you're telling and nothing left. Confessions of a Left Wing Operative by Evan Barker. Thank you so much for joining.

[Evan Barker]

Thanks Andrew.

[Andrew Colvett]

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[Michael Watley]

People being arrested 20 times, 30 times, 40 times, 50 times or more being put right back on the streets. He's appointed magistrates and judges who man that revolving door and keep it rolling. And of course he released 4200 criminals. 4200 criminals because he didn't want them to get Covid when they were in prison.

[Andrew Colvett]

Now joining us is Michael Watley, former chair of the RNC and now he is the Republican candidate for US Senate from the great state of North Carolina. Welcome to the show, sir. Good to have you.

[Michael Watley]

It's great to be on with you. It's great to be back on the Charlie Kirk show.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yes, sir, absolutely. It's great to have you. You are running a very, very important race as we look towards the midterm and how the shape of the Senate is going to take form and we want to make sure that we're getting the word out. And I think you have hit the nail on the head with this messaging on crime, especially in North Carolina. It is so critically important that we're locking criminals up that are violent, that are going to hurt innocent Americans in North Carolina because it's become ground zero for some of the most radical left wing policies you can imagine, especially on the crime front. Tell us about this speech you gave. I thought it was brilliant. What do North Carolinians need to know about Mr. Cooper, who you're running against?

[Michael Watley]

I'm glad you asked. You know, when you think about every election is important, right? And it's a differentiation that you have to make in these elections to be able to have a conversation with the voters. I'm fighting every day for every family, I'm fighting for our kids, I'm fighting for our future. I'm fighting for a strong America. Roy Cooper, on the other hand, he's fighting for criminals, he's fighting for illegal aliens, he's fighting for men who want to play in girls sports and go in women's locker rooms. And this is what he's been fighting for his entire career. And when we start that conversation talking about the criminals and you think about Roy Cooper, who was the worst governor in the history of North Carolina, which is a pretty low bar. But he is the worst governor that we have ever seen, the most pro criminal governor that we've ever had in North Carolina. And this is a guy who back in 2020 when BLM and Antifa were out there burning down our cities, did he call in the National Guard to put down those riots. No, he took off his Covid mask, he raised his fist, and he went out and he marched with them. You know, this is a guy who set up a revolving door to put criminals back on the streets again 20 times, 30 times, 40 times, 50 times or more. As soon as the paperwork was done, they're back on the streets, usually before the police officers are even back on the streets. And of course, he released 4,200 criminals, 4,200 hardened criminals that were released out of North Carolina's prisons and because he didn't want them to get Covid. And we're talking about the worst of the worst. Pedophiles, rapists, murderers that he put on the street. 700 of them had committed felony assault, aggravated assault, sexual assault, assault with a deadly weapon, rape. You know, 51 of them had committed. Had been serving life sentences. 80 of them had committed murder that Cooper put back on the streets. And as soon as he put them there, what do you think happened? They went right back to a life of crime. They went right back to their ways. And 2,200 of them have been rearrested since he put them back on the streets. We've seen hundreds of them have committed violent felonies, and it's really Sad to say 99 of them have committed sexual crimes. So we're talking about rape, we're talking about sexual assault, we're talking about child pornography charges. 99 of the worst and 25 who've gone on to commit murder since Roy Cooper let him out there. Probably the most famous one on that list is a guy named Decarlos Brown Jr. Who got rearrested and re released 13 more times before he got on a light rail car in Charlotte, North Carolina last summer and brutally murdered Irena Zyrotska, a beautiful Ukrainian refugee who had her whole life ahead of her. And Roy Cooper's got blood on his hands. I wish that that story was the end of it, but there are 24 other families who are going to have an open seat at the kitchen table every Christmas, every Easter, every Thanksgiving going forward because Cooper put those criminals back on the streets. It's the most dangerous, reckless, and stupid decision ever made by a governor in North Carolina history.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, but sure, let's give him more power. Let's just keep rewarding failure and give this guy a seat in the U.S. senate. It's obscene to me, but I have to like, you know, and by the way, let me just say with Irina Zarudska, this was just before Charlie was killed. And he famously said we have to politicize what happened to Rina Zarutska because it was politics that let her get killed in the first place. It was politics that let DeCarlos Brown Jr. Out on the street to go hurt and kill the more Americans. And in this case Ukrainian refugee who was innocent. And it's infuriating to me and I think infuriating to a lot of Americans that this is what Democrats stand for. They don't care about law abiding people getting murdered and maimed in the streets because they think racism, they cry racism. And in this case Roy Cooper is just a white guilt, weak minded Democrat from North Carolina. And I will never understand, Mr. Whatley, why on earth North Carolina will send people or Republicans to D.C. but they'll elect somebody like Roy Cooper at the state level. I will never understand what's going on with the politics in that state. But we gotta get you over the finish line, maybe dive into that. What? You know, we've seen this weird voting pattern in North Carolina where it just seems a little all over the place. What is behind that exactly? Do you have an answer?

[Michael Watley]

We're a purple state. You know, we're 30% Republican, we're 30% Democrat, we're 38.5% unaffiliated, which is our version of independence and 1.5% other. So every race that we have here is going to be really close. And the way that that has tended to manifest itself over time is Democrats win governor, lieutenant governor, Attorney General and Republicans win Congress, Senate and the president. So, you know, we carried the state three times for President Trump. I was, I was, you know, I ran his state, the state forum in 2016 and I was the state party chair in 2020 and then the RNC chair in 2024. But in all three of those wins they were very narrow. And the Democrats took the governorship in all three of them. So we, we are a purple state. But we, you know, when you think about who those voters, those swing voters in the middle are gonna, are gonna vote for, they, they are generally, you know, college educated, they're generally suburban and they hate crazy. And so they voted against Kamala Harris. And I think that that's really important to know. And they're going to vote against Roy Cooper because he was the worst governor in the history of this state. And we can talk about economic issues, we can talk about crime issues. You know, we can talk about illegal immigration. You know, this is a guy who supported sanctuary cities. This is a guy who vetoed Legislation multiple times that tells sheriffs that they have to honor ice detainers and get violent criminal illegal aliens the hell out of North Carolina. You know, so he has a track record that he's done everything he can to run away from. You know, I always like to point out that candidate Cooper really doesn't like Governor Cooper and all the things that he did. When he's trying to talk about being a moderate right now, you know, he's just an absolute wrong fit for people of North Carolina. He'd be better off running in California, New York or Illinois.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, well, that's what's interesting about North Carolina because you do you. I think you're right. I think the vast majority of North Carolinians hate crazy. But then you have these pockets, these blue pockets around all those universities where the most radical ideas are festering are taking root. And you get these radical activists in your state that skew some of this statewide politics. As you mentioned, the governor is supporting California politics in, in the south, which, which should have been a non starter. When you talk to average North Carolinians, what, what are, what are their concerns? What do they want you to focus on? Crime has to be huge, but what else?

[Michael Watley]

Well, there's the economy, you know, and the fact is that over his 40 year career, you know, career politician Roy Cooper, he consistently fought and made things more expensive. You know, so housing prices up 85% while he was the governor, Health care costs, health care premiums up 183% while he was the governor. Meanwhile, he's taking, you know, $400,000 from health care companies and executives, you know, for his campaign here, cozying up and saying he's going to get tough on him, you know, rather ridiculous what he's looking at there. But the fact is, you're right that Charlotte, that Raleigh, that Durham, you know, these are deep blue cities where we do have a very aggressive, you know, radical Democratic base that is pointing it out. But the Democratic Party itself has lost over 350,000 registered voters over the last 10 years because people are walking away from that party. And the fact is that they know that that's not the party that they grew up with and it's not a party that they can support anymore. You think about Roy Cooper vetoing the Parents Bill of Rights. Who vetoes the Parents Bill of Rights? You know, he vetoed legislation that would have prevented transgender mutilation surgeries. This is a guy who voted, you know, fought for putting boys and girls, sports and men and women's locker rooms, you know these are radical positions way out of step with North Carolina.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, Michael Watley, you are running a very strong race and I think you're getting stronger. And it's all about turnout. This is going to be all about turnout. You got to get these low propensity voters. You got to harass them, call them, get their ballots in the box. Folks, if you want to get involved, go to Michael Watley dot com. That's his campaign site. Pitch in some money. This is a candidate, Michael Watley, who's. Thank you for joining us, sir. You are getting stronger and your message is getting like more potent. I can see it happening. I think you have a great shot here in North Carolina. I think that we need to hold Tom Tellis's seat. Need to get rid of Tom Tellis. Thank goodness he's retiring. And we need to replace that seat with a strong conservative, a proven conservative. That is you, Michael Watley, thank you for joining the show. And again, please, michaelwatley.com support this man. Get him to the U.S. senate. We need him to keep the majority. God bless you, sir. Appreciate it.

[Michael Watley]

Well, thank you very much. And when we win this race, we are going to have a conservative champion and an ally for President Trump in the Senate from North Carolina.

[Andrew Colvett]

Amen. Godspeed, sir. Hi, folks. Andrew Colvett here. I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why Refi. You've probably been hearing me talk about why Refi for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments, maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. Yrefi will provide you a custom payment based on your ability to pay. They tailor each loan individually. They can save you thousands of dollars and you can get your life back. We go to campuses all over America and we see student after student who's drowning in private student loan debt. Many of them don't even know how much they owe. Yrefi can help. Just go to yrefi.com that's the letter Y. Then refi.com and remember, Y Refi doesn't care what your credit score is. Just go to yrefi.com and tell them your friend Andrew sent you. Blake, I want to talk about Shiloh. And if you don't know the name Shiloh and why it's in the news, Blake is about to explain it to you.

[Blake]

Alrighty. Well, this is you might, it might stir something in your, like the deep recesses of your brain as I describe this to you. So this is, this is a story we used to see a ton of. First Trump year, the first peak woke era. And this is one of it. Shows how things have changed. So Shiloh Hendricks is a woman, she's 37 in Minnesota, and she was the subject of a viral video last year where basically she was, I believe, at a playground, kind of in a public spot. And, and this Somali child about 9 years old who had an ankle monitor because they had a habit of wandering away. I guess their parents couldn't take great care of them. And this child was like bothering her, bothering her kid. And let's be frank, it was not her best moment. She got angry at the kid, she said something nasty to them. And then the parent of this child starts just taping her tapes or gets a camera interface and is like you said, a slur. Say it again, say it again, say it again. And she basically gets exasperated and she says a slur on the video, that's not good, shouldn't do that. But what is egregious is she then got charged with disorderly conduct. And they have spent the past year in Minnesota prosecuting this woman. And yesterday she was convicted of this. She was convicted because she said a bad word on a video to someone who was in her face demanding that she say something bad. And she was just fined $1,000. She was given a stayed 90 day jail sentence and she has to do 200 hours of community service. So not the worst miscarriage of justice ever. But people are reacting to this and we should react to it because let's be real, this is Minnesota. So we already, they have infinite Somali fraud. There's a lot of crimes that go down in Minnesota that they're basically ignoring. And on top of that, no one would ever be prosecuted for. Let's be frank. Calling a white person a racial slur on a camera, that's called riding on a subway. A lot you're going to encounter that. This is a woman who was singled out and targeted because she was a white woman who had an unflattering image on camera. I think you'd agree, Andrew, and it doesn't like.

[Andrew Colvett]

I totally agree.

[Blake]

You don't get criminally prosecuted. You don't have your First Amendment rights taken away. You're allowed to say mean things to people if they're in your face, if you, if you don't attack them, if you don't like physically, if you don't physically assault them. People argue with each other in public. That's not a crime.

[Andrew Colvett]

So, I mean, I totally agree on principle. Listen, she ends up raising, I think on a GoFundMe something like $900,000. Okay? Now she's gonna get 200 hours of community service and a small fine. I don't care. She probably is gonna make out in the positive on this, okay? But I don't care. To Blake's point, it's the principle of the thing. This was not her best moment. We get it. We're not endorsing what she did, but we also can understand it. This nine year old apparently was wearing an ankle monitor. I haven't fact checked this, but I've seen this in a number of the social media posts. This kid, either way was on the loose, being an absolute, I would say, menace to society. And this public place, this space, by the way, which is a larger theme that we need to talk about and we will talk about more, how America's public spaces, which are free, have been overrun by migrants, by criminals, by people that are transgressive and antisocial. They are no longer safe. So if you think about the latchkey kids, the free range kids of the 70s and 80s and 90s, that that world has been evaporated because of little Somali kids like this who's harassing this woman while she's trying to hang out with her kid at the park. And so the American dream becomes a luxury shot. People like Shiloh can't go to the park anymore because they get harassed by little miscreants like this, this, this Somali kid. And then this other guy comes, I guess he's a brown guy. I don't think it was his parent. I made that mistake.

[Blake]

The person taping was not the dad was testifying at the trial. I mixed that up. I apologize.

[Andrew Colvett]

Exactly. The, the kid, the guy who was, was taping him was Sharmaik Omar, apparently. So take, take the name as you will. Sharmaik Omar starts provoking her, she says a bad word. Oh, well, to your point, since when do we prosecute, you know, people of color? Calling white people pejoratives and racist. Racist names? We. Oh yeah, that's right. We don't do it.

[Blake]

I mean, it's worse than that. If you're in a lot of these jurisdictions, like, you'll have like antisocial personalities will harass people, get in their face, like deliberately trying to provoke them, because if they react in any way, they'll feel justified in like punching them in the face. There was A case, I believe this was in Oregon where someone like basically got attacked and then they testified. Well, they called me the N word during the attack and they got acquitted for the assault for that reason. Like, we will not have our diverse multicultural society survive if we have two standards of justice, two different expectations for people in this country. Everyone has the First Amendment right, period. You can't make an example out of someone because you're desperate to prosecute someone who's a 30something white woman, a Karen, as they would like to say.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, I think this is just a pure, unadulterated example of anti white discrimination that has been legalized in our judicial system. I think the best point, Blake, that you made, and it's worth repeating, is that when we go on the subway, we go on public transportation, we go to a park and we're called a racist slur. We're called a cracker or whatever they want to call us. That doesn't count for anything in this country. And nor should it, by the way, unless it is like an aggression. Aggression to like you know, start a fight or something like that. Maybe then you could make an argument. But the point is, that's not what she was doing. The guy provoked her. She said the word okay. She shouldn't have said it. That is not grounds for stripping this woman of her First Amendment rights and then prosecuting and harassing her for a year. This is the land of George Floyd. Right here.

[Blake]

Exactly.

[Andrew Colvett]

This is what's happening to Minneapolis. Nice. No, they're getting overrun by foreigners that want to. Want to prosecute Americans for using their God given freedoms. Yeah, maybe she shouldn't have done it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, well.

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[Danny]

How's it going, Danny?

[Andrew Colvett]

How you doing, buddy?

[Danny]

Doing all right.

[Andrew Colvett]

And Blake and myself. So let's, let's get things started. Who's our first up?

[Danny]

We have Kelsey Kelsey.

[Andrew Colvett]

Please unmute yourself. And welcome to the show.

[Evan Barker]

Yes.

[Kelsey]

So real quick, before my question, I

[Evan Barker]

want to thank you for your election coverage this past Tuesday.

[Kelsey]

I enjoyed it.

[Evan Barker]

And congratulations on your Arizona wins. So my question for you is.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

So I've been hearing more and more about flock cameras. Simply put, one side claims they're a

[Evan Barker]

helpful tool for law enforcement to solve crimes.

[Kelsey]

The other side raises concerns that it's

[Evan Barker]

another step towards handing away our freedom of privacy. And wondering what the CK show thoughts on this are and do the benefits outweigh the infringements?

[Blake]

That's a great question. I've heard about this. So flock cameras, for those who don't know, I know Tucker show did an episode on this. A few others have talked about them. Flock cameras, they're a kind of early iteration of technology. We're going to be seeing a lot more now. They're cameras. We've always had cameras. But what flock cameras are is they add this AI element to them where they build them and they put them in spots and they can track where cars are going and they can log the license plate automatically. They can log the make and model of the car. They can log which direction the car is going and send it all to a database. And you can see how this would be pretty useful to law enforcement because basically they can have a crime happen and they can be like, oh, there's reports of this, of maybe a certain type of car. Go to the database and bam, they don't need to go and manually watch a ton of footage which used to Be that limit on how much security footage you could have is someone would have to go watch it. Now it's like there's an AI robot watching it, and they can just collect way more data and use way more data. And the claim for this is it will let them fight crime. Now, there's a possible issue here.

[Danny]

Yeah, it tracks, like, people whether they're doing stuff. So, like, regular traffic cameras, like, obviously only scan you or take pictures of you when you commit, like, a crime of some sort. This will scan every car that goes by, no matter what. So the police can literally be like, show me every black F150 that's driven past this street in the last day. And it'll show them, like, a long list of stuff, which, I mean, I could see down the line. This could get a little scary depending on how they expand it. So that's really the concern is how is this gonna be built out from here? But I don't see, like. So this is being implemented, but, like, ShotSpotter in, like, Chicago was all taken away. Like, I feel like that was much better. Technology that actually can be used to solve stuff like this, I feel like, is more just worthless spying on people kind of.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, it's. It's definitely a great tool for law enforcement. So I understand why law enforcement wants it because it can scan the license plates. It can, you know. You know, oftentimes what happens in a crime scene is they have to try and close down the egress, right? So they try and block anywhere people can get out. This gives them an added tool to be able to address that. Now, my problem is that it does become a surveillance state. Right? It. And they. The. The company behind this flock is already expanding these AI tools, expanding facial recognition recognition, expanding into all kinds of different things. So it becomes a surveillance state. And here's my kind of basic, you know, thought on it. It's like, I just don't trust tech companies at all. And, you know, there are. There are pay. You know, there's a cost to freedom and liberty. Right. And I think you have to weigh all those things in the balance. My general disposition towards it is I'm very skeptical because tech. Tech companies have proven that they don't always put America first. Right. If they're willing to give up their H1BS, maybe I'll be able to be more sympathetic to. It's basically my general disposition.

[Blake]

I'll go the other way. I get not trusting tech companies. For me, the best argument against this is government. That if it really was we're only going to stop criminals. I get it. But we've seen, for example, we saw the deep state as it were. The, you know, the intelligence apparatus of the US Colluded. They pressured tech companies. Suppress this New York Post story, suppress the Hunter Biden laptop as an example. And we've seen there was a very sinister thing when January 6th happened where like, a lot of Facebook data ended up getting, like, leaked out to the press to basically cover the movements of people who were allegedly present at January 6th. And then they were. They were like, profiling people and doxing them even before they were actually charged with any crimes. And so where I can feel like this is ominous is it just seems frightening for any government apparatus to have that amount of information about what people are doing and where they're going. And so I just think of an example. Let's say you're having. Let's say we had a Covid type thing, and when they were saying you shouldn't be assembling for religious services, what if they were just starting to track every car that was going in the direction of where that church was, even if they didn't have people monitoring it? And then at that point, oh, you can track every single person who's a member of this church because you can sense who's going to that church every Sunday. It creates such a way for. If you're the FBI and you're deciding, like, when they were monitoring Latin mass as a thing, you suddenly are just building data. So here's everyone we know who's going, who's driving to this church that does the Latin mass, which we've decided is this extremist threat. It's a little too much information for the government to just be passively collecting at all times. And that creeps me out a little bit. And I can definitely understand why that worries people.

[Danny]

Well, it's also because you can't tell me that you're trying to solve crime when, like, in Chicago you get rid of shotspotter, which, like, actually helps solve crime. But then you're okay with flock being put in. It's like you. You can't really tell me that you're. Well, a lot of concerns are crime when you haven't really done the first steps to actually solving the crime.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, I mean, a lot of. A lot of.

[Danny]

Go ahead.

[Andrew Colvett]

A lot of liberal cities are not. Are taking them out right now. So LAPD suspended use Mountain View, California. Suspended use or disabled IT Berkeley, Houston, Cleveland. All right, so they're. But it's left wing Cities, but like Chicago still has.

[Blake]

It's tough because in Chicago, for example. But 50% of crimes go unsolved. 50% of murders go unsolved. So there are people who will die. There are people who will get away with murder because we don't have these. And so that's a calculation you need to make is how much information are you willing to give government for the sake of having people not be murdered? And that's. I mean, Benjamin Franklin pointed out that dilemma.

[Andrew Colvett]

They've already been abused, though. See, multiple cases of officers using the system to stalk ex partners or romantic interests or critics. They've been used to stalk pro lifers. Oh, so I didn't even know that. But that's exactly what I was saying.

[Danny]

When in doubt, more surveillance is going to be used against.

[Blake]

I would say, here's my proposal.

[Andrew Colvett]

To be used by the bad guys.

[Blake]

Here's my proposal. First, bring back ShotSpotter, because there's nothing wrong with ShotSpotter. And then before we decide to have the Panopticon to punish all crimes, how about we just actually punish crimes? So if you're going to have a vagrant on the subway who's terrorizing people, antisocial behavior, people doing these petty assaults, and then having the charges dropped, let's try stopping crime by punishing the crimes that we actually.

[Danny]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Michael Watley]

You can.

[Blake]

Then once we do that, we can say, oh, there's too much crime still. We should have the Panopticons.

[Danny]

0 to 100.

[Blake]

That's a great question. I'm really glad. Yeah.

[Andrew Colvett]

Here's my proposal.

[Blake]

If.

[Andrew Colvett]

If you have. If you have over a certain number of murders in your community, then it gets mandated. Okay. Or if you have a certain number of illegals in your community. How about that? Everywhere else will be free from the surveillance state. All right, who do we got next?

[Blake]

Don, I believe.

[Danny]

Right, Don.

[Blake]

Don, unmute yourself. And what's your question?

[Andrew Colvett]

Hi, guys.

[Michael Watley]

Thanks for taking my call.

[Don]

I started about 10 months ago.

[Andrew Colvett]

I started hearing people talking about color revolutions.

[Don]

I'd never heard of that before. So I looked into it, and that's.

[Andrew Colvett]

That seems to be what's going on.

[Don]

I was wondering what, what, what, what your opinion is.

[Blake]

All right, that was a. That was a label Charlie really liked. I think he got it. I know, I know. Darren Beatty at Revolver would. Come on. He would talk about that. So color revolution, that comes from. If you look at history, there's a lot of revolutions in other countries, and they love to give a color to them. So they're the Jasmine Revolution, or the or Orange Revolution, I think, was Ukraine. And it sort of describes these popular uprisings where there's a bunch of people rallying in the square, and then stuff happens and the government loses support, and then the president has to flee in disgrace or whatever. And what was so cool about is how Darren, and I think Mike Benz was also an expert on this, as he'd lay it out, is how there's. This is not really a purely popular activity. It's a way of laundering a political change that often powerful people want to have happen. So you'll have people in the square. And does a bunch of people rallying in a square mean that there's a popular mandate to change the government?

[Don]

Well, no.

[Blake]

Like, you can put 20,000 people in a square as a tiny minority of a country, even if it looks really impressive in person. And so as an example, that Orange Revolution in Ukraine, you have tens of thousands of people in Kiev who say the government's bad, but the government's base of support was in the eastern part of the country. They're not in Kiev. And. But then they're demonstrating. You have media coverage, and then if they start. Maybe they start demonstrating, they start pressuring the police. And if the police ever shoot, you go. The police have fired upon the peaceful protesters. This. This government has lost legitimacy. And you stoke it. You stoke international condemnation, you stoke NGOs to say this government must go, and eventually government falls from power. And now, I don't think we're in that in the US Right now, but that is a pretty good characterization of a lot of the phenomena that went into the 2020 election. As an example where Donald Trump, he was mounting a legal challenge to how things had gone down in the States. And this was presented as an unforgivable offense to overturn democracy. And you had law firms would refuse to represent his legal challenge. And then after J6, you had them shutting down his bank account and they're turfing out parlor and all of this. And on top of that, the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop, there was just a lot of para state actors, not the government, not really local police. It was just NGOs and the media teaming up to say, donald Trump cannot be president anymore. And that feels a lot like a

[Andrew Colvett]

color, I think, of the mostly peaceful Florida Palooza ride.

[Blake]

Exactly, exactly. Everyone's saying it's all mostly peaceful while they're burning everything.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It. Basically, it was. So what Blake is getting at is a lot of this comes from the old Soviet Union, Right. These. These countries would get overthrown. You had the Tulip Revolution, the Rose Revolution. And a lot of, you know, international actors assumed that USAID, National Endowment for Democracy, Open Societies foundation, coordinated with NGOs and international press outlets would cause these regimes to fall in order to build up and expand the influence of NATO, the eu, that sort of thing. Those same actors that orchestrated that are deeply embedded within the NGO structure in the United States, and they have absolutely used this same formula against President Trump. And I think George Floyd is probably the single greatest example that we have in 2020. But you could also look at the anti ice riots. That's why there's so much money and so much coordination on the NGO side, because they want to spark at least the optics that there is a popular uprising against an unpopular president. And so they use wedge issues or they use events that they think they can then garner a lot of attention with. Right. So we saw that with Renee Goode when she was killed basically being a lunatic in a car in Minnesota protesting ice. We're not happy that she got killed. We're not happy she got killed. But at the same time, there's a reason she was. She was killed because she was disobeying police and she was being a maniac. Beyond that, that ended up being used.

[Blake]

They tried to use.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Blake]

They tried to use Renee Goode to just basically say, because this one incident happened in one city, we don't have. We can't have ice, we can't have deportations, we can't have a border anymore. They. They really tried to stoke that. And I think in 2019, 2020, it would have worked. We've gotten better at our defenses against these tactics. So the right was able to say, as you said, Andrew, it's sad that that woman died, but we actually knew to say this is what they wanted. The left want these people to get out there, put themselves in danger, cause friction where someone panics or someone makes a mistake and someone dies and use that to overturn our laws. You have to recognize what they're doing and basically call them on their BS

[Danny]

in 2020, they already did. I mean, they were successful.

[Blake]

They were successful then, but this time it didn't work.

[Andrew Colvett]

We're still getting better at.

[Blake]

We just. We wised up.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah. Well, here's what. Here's what you look for, Don, is you look for an inciting incident, which you had Renee Goode and Alex Preddy in Minneapolis. They were being completely engineered and trained to go. Cause Good Trouble, as the left likes to call it. So they're going to get in the faces of these ICE officers, they're going to cause some terrible incident to happen, somebody loses their life. Then what happens? Then you have a ton of money flowing into these NGOs, and then they do the no Kings rallies, right all across the country. Cnn, msnbc, abc, cbs, New York Times, they all cover it wall to wall. And they make a huge deal about this, whether or not there's popular support for it or not. There's enough. And this is why when you hear clips like, and we should actually pull this clip from like Rachel Maddow where she says you only need three and a half percent of really dedicated population to get behind these revolutionary tactics to be true believers and you can overthrow the government because they, they, the belief and the theory is that they can, they can project a popular support for a movement with three and a half percent, whether that's the no Kings rallies, the media coverage or whatever. And I can't underscore this point enough, the same people that orchestrated a lot of this in the Eastern bloc, they are now domestic activists. They are working in the NGO system trying to take down President Trump. It's a total real thing. Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here. I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why Refi. You've probably been hearing me talk about why Refi? For some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments, maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. Yrefi will provide you a custom payment based on your ability to pay. They tailor each loan individually. They can save you three thousands of dollars and you can get your life back. We go to campuses all over America and we see student after student who's drowning in private student loan debt. Many of them don't even know how much they owe. Yrefi can help. Just go to yrefi.com that's the letter Y. Then refi.com and remember, Y Refi doesn't care what your credit score is. Just go to yrefi.com and tell them your friend Andrew sent you. We have that clip I was talking about, which I think it's so important. We're talking about color revolutions, Blake and Danny and I think to assume that people like Rachel Maddow are not in on the shtick or not in on the game that they're playing would be naive and foolish. Go ahead and play this. SOT23. I know you highlight these peaceful protests on your show regularly. Do you think they do any good? Do you think that anything comes from them?

[Evan Barker]

Yes.

[Don]

You do?

[Blake]

Yes, I do. I mean, in political science terms, there's what's called the 3.5% rule, which is that if you look at authoritarian regimes of various kinds all over the world over the last century, once you have three and a half percent of a population protesting nonviolently against a dictator or an authoritarian, that is essentially an unstoppable force that can. That they can't oppose and that precludes them from consolidating dictatorial.

[Andrew Colvett]

Three and a half percent.

[Blake]

Three and a half percent. It's not that much larger a number than what we're already seeing in the streets against Trump.

[Andrew Colvett]

Ah, man. It's a very revealing clip, Blake. They.

[Blake]

They do know. They do know. The left has a tradition of vanguardism, they call it. They believe, you know, they say they believe in the power of the people, but sometimes the people are a little slow and they need. They need a nudge from a smaller set. Very interesting topic. That was a great question from Don. We have Tom.

[Charlie Kirk]

Next.

[Andrew Colvett]

Good question so far today.

[Blake]

Unmute yourself. What's your question?

[Michael Watley]

Yes.

[Andrew Colvett]

Hey, guys, good to see you. Thanks for the awesome job that you do. Thank you. Listen, I just want, I guess, an assessment from your point of view, from the 30,000 foot point of view on the condition of the Maga America first movement. I mean, is it growing? Is it stagnant? How are we looking going into the midterms?

[Don]

Just.

[Andrew Colvett]

I'll leave it there. There's more I could ask, but I'll leave it there.

[Blake]

All right, who wants.

[Andrew Colvett]

Blake, you want to start us off?

[Blake]

Sure, I'll go. Yeah. I. I'll be frank, I'll be frank. I think there's a pretty widespread conception, and I think it's accurate that maga's in some rapids. It's in some turmoil right now. I don't think Andrew and I have discussed a lot on the show. I think the war with Iran made a lot of people angry, made a lot of people frustrated. A lot of people are true believers. A lot of people say Trump does it. I support it. A lot of people wanted Trump to do it all along, but it's an issue that has cleaved the movement apart and that's caused a lot of frustration. I think we've also seen some drama from. We Had Scott Greer on the other day, he called it the insane clown party, insane clown populism. There's this appeal of very conspiracy driven stuff on the right. And some of those people were part of maga and they've sort of aggressively broken with it. They've said, I am no longer part of it. President Trump has betrayed us. All of this is going on. I think there's still a lot of promising stuff because the administration continues to do good stuff stuff, even if it's not what's in the news, that we're still seeing. Deportations. They actually keep going up. The numbers keep going up, even though it's not front and center. We're still having the war on DEI and a ton of institutions. We're still rooting out a lot of deep state barnacles, a lot of left wing barnacles and a lot of institutions. We're tearing stuff up. We're causing a lot of good. We're doing, frankly, a lot more good than we did in the first Trump administration. And so I think as long as people like us keep highlighting that, I think, and as long as the left keeps careening into the abyss on democratic socialism, there's going to be continued, going to continue to be reason to support maga. And I think a lot of these people will come back and realize that, especially as we get closer to 28. But right now there is turmoil.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Blake]

And let's be frank. We miss Charlie. Charlie did a lot of. And he's not with us now.

[Danny]

Yeah. Go ahead, Danny.

[Andrew Colvett]

Talk about the kids, the students. Yeah.

[Michael Watley]

There's.

[Danny]

There's an unreal expectation that Trump was going to come in and within like the first year or two, suddenly, like transform everything, which is just not possible. And I don't think they really understand that, like, the Senate actually has to pass stuff like this is out of Trump's control. So the Senate taking over a month and a half off straight, like, that's not Trump's fault and stuff's not getting passed. Appointees are not getting passed and confirmed. And Trump's like almost taking the fall for the Senate's failures. And I think the main problem was this unreal expectation that he was going to come in, kind of be this dictator that they wanted, and then suddenly transform and fix all of these problems within the first year or two, which is not realistic. And then you take that and you also add in the Epstein stuff and like bad pr and it just compiles on each other where they're kind of just like, we don't care anymore. We're not gonna vote. And it's kind of just from this misconception that we are gonna be able to do more than we actually could. And it's because it's a lot easier to. It's a lot easier to change for the worse than change for the better. I mean, the amount of. Yeah. Trying to reverse a lot of this stuff takes a while and I think that they just don't really understand that. And then you take just bad PR moves, bad decisions by the administrative, and it just led to all of this. I mean, it's not looking good how it's looking.

[Andrew Colvett]

But yeah, yeah, I would say I agree with Blake's assessment that the MAGA coalition has shrunk. The question is, does it? Well, I would say MAGA has shrunk. The question is whether or not the coalition, when it comes to, you know, picking somebody for an office, if that coalition has shrunk, I think what's more likely to happen with most of these people is they're not gonna vote Democrat. They're probably just going to opt out. Right. We have this problem in the Trump era of low propensity voters. That's the work that we're doing at Turning Point action is getting those low prop voters out. Becomes even harder when Trump's not on the ballot. He remains, I would say, historically popular with conservatives. So there's a lot of good and there's some headwinds. There's no question. I explained this to the team. I call it the taxonomy of the right. And a couple of the team members like, you gotta make an op ed, you gotta write an op ed on that. And I probably will do that. I just keep needing to find time for it. But let me just briefly explain it to you. You've got, on the one side, you've got the neocons, Right. Because it's always important to remember that foreign policy is going to be the most divisive issue in the right wing coalition. Right. So the neocons, they'd never liked Trump, but it feels like they've got some, some things that they wanted, namely in Iran. And so you got them. You've got the plan trusters, the trust, the planners. This would be like if the neocons, like a Ted Cruz or a Lindsey Graham, the plan trusters would be like, I don't know, a Michael Knowles or a lot of people put turning point in this group. I don't think that's a fair characterization all the time, but that's in people's Collective minds. That's what they think. Then you have the dissidents. This would be like a Matt Walsh that really wants to hold the administration's feet to the fire. But he's never gonna vote Democrat. Right. Then you've got the small L libertarians. We had the red headed Libertarian Josie on the show for example. These are people and she warns about this. That will become disenchanted.

[Don]

Right.

[Andrew Colvett]

When we saw Thomas Massie didn't win reelection, they could opt out. The small l libertarians could opt out of running. And then on the far end of the scale you've got the accelerationists. The accelerationists want to burn it all down. They don't want you to vote for, they don't want you to vote for President Trump or anybody he endorses. Cuz they want to burn the party down and rebuild it in their image in an ideologically pure manner. We reject that premise. We think that's a terrible idea. Because what Charlie believed and what we believe in is reform, forming the coalition from within. That's why we endorse candidates and we work our tails off to get them elected. Because this is why Brandon Gill exists. You know, Brandon Gill is an all star out of Texas that we would not have gotten elected a generation prior. But he completely gets it. He's completely on script and he's pushing hard and he's very effective. So we want to reform the movement from within. I would say the bad actors want to burn it all down and guess what happens. The neocons want to pull the pull clan trusters over to their side and the dissidents and the accelerationists want to pull the small l libertarians and the dissidents over to their side and force a wedge in the party. We've got to keep everybody together pushing in the same direction. And again the question becomes, will it matter come election day? Well, I think the question is getting ready.

[Danny]

It will because a lot of people, it's already broken. I don't think you're really going to keep it together because what was kept together is already completely, completely broken. So it's more so going to be about getting them back.

[Blake]

It's going to be a real challenge and especially because you call them accelerationists. But I like, I really like Scott Greer's insane clown party formulation. For some of them it can be very tough to appeal to those people. But let's get into our next question here. Is it Mark? Mark, unmute yourself and what's your question?

[Don]

Hey guys, can you hear me?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yep.

[Don]

Okay, so my Question is actually similar to what you guys are talking about right now. Every time I see soon on TV or the Internet, I just want to punch the guy, right? So I'm sick of the Senate and I'm sick of the rhinos. So I love Turning Point Action. Every time you have Tyler on, I. I'm like, I. I love listening to this guy, right? Because he's actually kind of what got me into Turning Point to the begin with. And Charlie, it's great. And. But Turning Point Action is action oriented, which is what I love. So number one, do we have a plan to get rid of these scumbag rhinos and is. You don't have to give it to me over the air, but I'm just curious if when you guys do your meetings, like, is there a plan and do you have it mapped out to. To get rid of these guys? Number one. And number two, is there some way we can defund the rhinos? I love that. Be a great website. Defund the rhinos, right? Because just what I think you guys literally were just talking about this or Danny was talking about this. It's like Trump is. I feel like he's kind of trapped. And with this war going on, this is going to. It's going to be a problem in the midterms and we. We just simply can't afford to lose. And I'm so. And matter of fact, can we get these guys to work five days a week?

[Andrew Colvett]

I mean, come on.

[Don]

Instead of one day a week. Or, or. Or.

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[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Blake]

It gives hope, so 100%. And he mentioned what can we do to get rid of them. And the struggle with the Senate always is they have six year terms and incumbents are powerful and they can just stick around a very long time. And we say the House has improved one election at a time and the Senate improves one election at a time. But it takes a while. We just had Watley on. He's running in North Carolina. He's going to be, if he wins, he'll replace Thom Tillis, who's been a very frustrating Republican on issue after issue and on bunch of key nominations and votes and issues. He just hasn't been there. And Whatley will be way better if we're able to get him over the finish line. And if we're able to get Paxton over the finish line, he'll be better on the issues than John Cornyn. Repeat over and over. We've got Lindsey Graham. He was. Yeah, he's, he's died. There's going to be a primary there. They're running. His, his, his sister is running. I believe we have, we endorsed anyone in that race.

[Andrew Colvett]

Ralph.

[Blake]

Yeah, Ralph Northam. So, yeah, we'll see who's able to pull ahead. But if he's able to win, we think he'll be better than Lindsey Graham was. Maybe probably even Lindsey Graham's sister will be better than he was. And so we get progress that way.

[Andrew Colvett]

I think anybody will love war as much as Liz.

[Blake]

I don't think it's possible. I don't think it's possible that man loved a conflict. And so we are going to make progress in that way, making them work more. Oh, man. If we could figure out that one I know Charlie was always calling for them to do it. He once got fired up for the idea. What if they worked over.

[Danny]

We have their Senate schedule. We could throw.

[Blake]

Throw up the. Throw up their schedule. If you're able to see it. Any date in red. Oh, man. You'll have to zoom into that one a little bit, guys. But any. If you look at it like the entire month of. Of August is red, there's from August

[Danny]

8th until September 14th, they are off for one month and one week straight.

[Blake]

Now, obviously, a lot of this is they're all off fundraising. They're endlessly fundraising. But the message we try to get through to them, which is very difficult, is to point out that nothing would win them votes faster than to just have the perception that they're actually working and achieving and doing things, which we've had a 10% approval rating of Congress for the last 20 years. Basically, they've never recovered. But in the 50s and 60s, Congress had a pretty high approval rating. Like, as an institution, people thought Congress was great and they were doing things. And I think the way you can do that is to actually do things. I love the idea. What if instead of this long August recess, Senator Thune announced, we're buckling down and we're making sure there's no vacant judicial offices, no vacant ambassadors, no vacant lower things. We're confirming everyone President Trump has sent to us. If they were doing that, MAGA would be fired up.

[Andrew Colvett]

It can be unacceptable that Thune is allowing the August resource recess to happen. And I'll explain why, because midterms, we are looking at a very real possibility where Thune is no longer leader of the Senate. This time is short. We are in a race against the clock, and he's going to take a whole month off come completely unacceptable. He should have everybody in there to Blake's point and get all of Trump's confirmations over the finish line. And then secondly, he should be doing the talking filibuster. And I don't care if we don't have the votes for Save America Act. He should just put. Make everybody put their name down. Yay or nay. We want to know. And then you ask if we have a map of this. We absolutely have a map and we absolutely have a plan. And most of these guys you can work with, right? We're probably like 3, 4, 5, maybe 6 votes shy on Save America Act. Those are going to be first up. So put your name down on the list. Be known, have some courage. If you're going to block something as popular as the Save America Act.

[Blake]

More, more votes is good. Make everyone go on the record about specific things because they love the fog of working on these omnibus bills that are hard to get. We have one more question we want to hit. We have three minutes here. Rain, unmute yourself. And what's your question?

[Kelsey]

Hello?

[Evan Barker]

Yeah.

[Blake]

Oh, rain. Can you hear it? Yep, we can hear you. What's your question?

[Kelsey]

Okay, so. Oh, wow. I've been listening to the show and it's. Oh, God, I got so much to comment on, but I'm gonna stick with my question. So, although I did not grow up in New Orleans, I spent most of my adult life there. And the general consensus from people that I personally, personally know and trust who went to grade school and high school and college and have known Amy Comey Barrett through her professional life up until when she has ended up, you know, in the Supreme Court, the, the personal general consensus is that she didn't about face because of the threats made against her, her adopted children's lives. And I, I, I trust these people that know her. And I wonder what is there, if anything, can anything be done to remove a Supreme Court justice? I mean, and based on the, all the testimony that I know we all saw from last week when she was asking for extra protection, what can be done to remove somebody from the Supreme Court if they don't feel confident enough to do their job and they're openly professing it?

[Blake]

Very briefly, very briefly. Are you saying that they knew her in high school and college and that she was more conservative then, so she's taken different views now?

[Kelsey]

Yes, absolutely.

[Blake]

That's very interesting.

[Danny]

I mean, it's on par with her voting.

[Kelsey]

Wait, wait. And, and people look, and on the record, people that know her now have told me that this, her about face is 100% about the threats that have been made against her Haitian children. And so I'm wondering, why is she able to continue on the highest court in the land

[Evan Barker]

if she has an

[Kelsey]

inability to go through with her job? Well, she doesn't deserve the spot there any longer.

[Don]

Thank you.

[Kelsey]

And look, I'm not, I'm not invalidating the threats made against her, but what I'm saying is if you feel that much of a threat against your life and it is compromising your, your decisions,

[Blake]

you, you should step down 100%. So first of all, the only way you can remove a Supreme Court justice is you need a 2/3. You need to impeach and remove the same way you would a President. You need 2/3. I don't think that's going to happen. And I don't know if she, it's supposed to be for misconduct and if she's just afraid that's not probably going to muster that many votes. Even if we're very disappointed, I think we could maybe frankly pass more security for Supreme Court justices. We should do that anyway because it's just too obvious if you're a left wing lunatic.

[Danny]

I mean they already by far the

[Blake]

biggest way you can try to change the country is just take out one of these Supreme Court justices. They're old, they're not as healthy as other people. You could 100 do it. We should give them more security. But yeah, we need bravery from people if they're going to be cowed by left wing threats like you shouldn't be in these positions because we need brave people to stand against these evildoers. And it's very disappointing. If she really did just do her

[Andrew Colvett]

doing about this, it was Samuel, Samuel Chase was impeached, but the same Senate acquitted him. They couldn't get 2/3 then he served until his death until 1811.

[Blake]

Yeah, it would be very hard to do that. But thank you for that question.

[Andrew Colvett]

It's very, very hard to do.

[Blake]

We'll see you guys all on Monday. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk. Com.