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My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You gotta stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Turning Point USA College chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA High School chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life. And I encourage you to do the same. Here I am, Lord.
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Use me.
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Happy Friday. I'm Blake. Andrew is out today. So I'm piloting this show, but I think we're gonna have a very good show today. We have Mikey with me here in studio already. Our first order of business today is we're going to tease the halftime show.
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We gotta tease it all.
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American halftime show. We announced that yesterday morning, and it's going to be held during a popular sporting event that shall remain unnamed early in February. And we're already ton of interest from different. You're more involved in the discussions than I am.
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Yeah, Faith, family, freedom. The alternative to that big sporting event halftime show. And, yeah, it's something that your family can tune into as opposed to what the other sporting event has to offer.
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Bunny. That is very mallow. Bunny.
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The booty cheeks, the debauchery. We don't need that.
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Exactly, exactly. So obviously, you know, are we. Are we giving out tickets or what's the deal with that?
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Yeah, there's signups right now, so you can. Yeah, you can go to the website and go there right now. There's an interest form. You can say what genre you would like to hear right now. I think worship is winning. I think a lot of people want.
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To hear some rock, too.
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No, actually, that's second place.
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Okay, that's good. That's good.
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Hip hop's in last place. So if you want hip hop, go already.
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All right. But now onto the big story of today. This is definitely what Charlie would want to talk about. Huge deal. So late last night, early today, local time, but late last night, for us, The Israeli cabinet gave approval to a ceasefire deal for the Israel Gaza war that has been raging these past almost exactly two years. They gave their approval to a ceasefire deal negotiated by the Trump administration, pushed by President Trump himself. The ceasefire took effect a few hours ago. Already Israeli troops have started pulling back to a negotiated ceasefire line. And there's already footage out there of thousands of Gazans streaming back into, you know, they're still bombed out cities, but they are returning to their homes. They are hopeful that this will bring peace. The ceasefire here it starts a 72 hour countdown. So by this time next Monday, Hamas will be expected to have released all of the remaining hostages that they possess. There are, I believe, 48 hostages still unaccounted for. Some of those are believed to be dead, unfortunately, but Israel believes that about 20 of them are still alive. They've been held for two years at this point. And President Trump has said he hopes to travel to Israel this weekend to address the Knesset and to be personally present when the hostages are turned over. The flip side of it, of course, is he also believes his personal presence will help make sure that things hold together and it doesn't break down. And we want to be clear, this is a win for President Trump. I'm going to quote Politico, no fans of President Trump by any stretch. Quote. Ceasefire talks between Israel and Hamas were stalling this week until US Emissaries Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner swept in to dictate key compromises, according to three people familiar with the diplomatic effort and an administration official. In the first few days, it was going very slow, said one of the people familiar with the talks, which started Monday. There was no willingness to budge on key issues. That's what the situation was, total paralysis, nobody willing to make the key concessions. And it was President Trump who was able to exercise leverage on both sides because we should be clear there's there was hesitancy for a peace deal on both sides of this conflict. Now, obviously, Hamas deserves far more blame for this war and for the war's continuation. But there's a lot of skepticism of trying to make any sort of deal with them. And Trump had to win over Israel on that end. And we have to recognize a lot of Trump's personal brand plays a role in this. When you read accounts of this, they're saying Hamas is willing to take what for them is the risk of releasing all the hostages because they trust President Trump to make sure that Israel doesn't, you know, then decide they'll break the ceasefire afterwards. And on the flip side, Israel knows that Trump really hates being lied to or bamboozled, and that if Hamas makes him angry, he might sign off on, you know, another bomb blowing up in some Hamas meeting room somewhere. So he really has built that peace through strength, reputation. That does open the way to a bigger piece. And I want to flag another thing, because it is very funny. Let's throw up. Pick 390 from our B roll. So this was a headline that ran in 2020 where it says, jared Kushner claims he can solve the Palestinian conflict because he has read 20 books on it. And they all thought this was just an obvious stunk. Oh, oh. Jared Kushner thinks he can negotiate a peace deal. Does he have a. An MA in international relations? Mikey, does he have a PhD? Has he even ever worked for one of the key NGOs? And that's the idea they had. And this has been a. More than any other conflict in the world, this has been managed for decades by NGOs and peace experts and all of that, and they've never really gotten anywhere. It's the most unsolvable problem in the world. And turns out what you needed was someone experienced in New York real estate deals.
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Yep.
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And suddenly things got very different. Now, we want to be clear. We weren't. We aren't out of the woods. We're celebrating. We are happy. But there was a ceasefire nine months ago. It collapsed. This ceasefire might also collapse. They still have to figure out disarming Hamas. They have to figure out how to govern Gaza in a way that we won't have another 10, seven a year from now or six months from now or 10 years from now. It is going to be hard. And we don't want to ignore another thing that is important, and we've already seen some emails about it. Part of this deal does involve up to 200 US troops going to Israel to oversee and execute the ceasefire and to distribute humanitarian aid. Now, the administration says none of these troops are going to be in Gaza. They're not walking the streets with machine guns. That is not what is going on. This is a sort of overseen, you know, oversight role. Yeah. And we should be clear. There is a red line here. We've said, Charlie said, this is not our war. We do not want. We do not need another Middle Eastern quagmire. We can't get sucked into any conflict there. If this goes south, we don't send 10,000 troops to redeem it. We. We get out that that is our role here. But, you know, we'll admit this makes us a little worried, but Trump has earned our trust on some of these things. He's twice threaded the needle with Iran, made us sweat a little bit, as you remember, but he threaded that needle and he got us out in a. In the direction of peace. And that's the last thing I want to talk about here that. You know, the Bible says, blessed are the peacemakers. Jesus said that in the Beatitudes. It doesn't say Blessed are the NGOs. It doesn't say blessed are the polite. It doesn't say blessed are the eggheads who have PhDs in international relations. It says, blessed are the peacemakers. And what we have seen over and over this year is that Donald Trump is a peacemaker. The Nobel Prize Peace Prize was actually announced this morning. It was planned in advance. Apparently it was chosen recently, but not last night. Literally. The winner was not Trump. He very much wants it, but the winner was Maria Corina Machado. She's a Venezuelan opposition leader, and we have no beef with her. In fact, just a few minutes ago, a few minutes ago, this flashed on Politico. Also. Venezuelan opposition leader dedicates Nobel Prize to Trump for his decisive support.
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So he still basically got it.
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Yeah, he basically sort of got it. And she's clearly very smart. She definitely knows how to play her own diplomatic game. So we have no beef with her. But we are going to say it is clear who should be winning this award this year. If you read the will of Alfred Noble, the dynamite guy who created the Nobel Peace Prize, the criteria for the Nobel Peace Prize is, quote, the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition of standing armies, and for the reduction and promotion of peace, the holding and promotion of peace congresses. Who has done the best work this year for fraternity among nations? Donald Trump. He de escalated the war in Iran. He's got this ceasefire. He had the ceasefire in Cambodia. He had the thing in Rwanda. He was involved in India and Pakistan. A year from now, if this ceasefire has held up, if Saudi Arabia has joined the Abraham Accords, or really just if this ceasefire holds up a year from now, they have no excuse whatsoever to not give Donald Trump the Nobel Peace Prize.
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One of the reasons the Nobel Peace Prize Committee, it's these five guys in Norway may not have chosen Trump, is they're just totally not used to what Trump has done, which he's spent the last year just very loudly campaigning, campaigning for the Nobel Peace Prize. And that's so unprecedented and it probably rubs them the wrong way. But we were saying it's kind of a good thing. It's a good thing that he would do it. Like, I am going to go and aggressively make peace on all over the world because I just want to win it so bad.
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Yes. And to other world leaders, we challenge you to do the same.
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Yeah. Peace Olympics. Every single world leader like one up in each other and how much they love peace.
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Yes.
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Putin comes out, he's like, I want the Nobel Peace Prize. I'm demobilizing all of our nuclear weapons.
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Yes.
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This is a challenge to world leaders.
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Yes. Like, I can get on board with this. But we want to get into another topic because people say, yeah, they've pointed out we're a month out from elections that are happening in Virginia, in New Jersey. Those are both blue states. They're both tough elections, but they've both suddenly become very winnable. The New Jersey race has narrowed a lot. The Virginia one was looking very tough. But then we had these texts that came out from Jay Jones, he's their candidate for Attorney general, where he says he wanted to kill the children of moderate Republicans because that's the only way you get change in this world. Last night we had the Virginia governor's debate and Abigail Spanberger is the Democrat nominee for governor. And Winsome Sears, she was really pressuring her on this topic, I think. Is it, is it 155 that has that Question.
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I believe so.
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I think so. Let's play 155. In fact, it appears that it was those who released the text messages and held them for years. So the public was unaware who had knowledge of these text messages. For many Os do about these text messages the day that they came out, and I denounced them as soon as I learned of them. She denounces murders. Importantly, at this point, as we move forward, the voters now have this information, information that was with withheld for them. You're running presumably for political reasons, but the voters now have the information. And it is up to voters to make an individual choice. But based on this information, up to the voters to make an individual choice based on this information. So that's really. It's almost the perfect response to that for us, I feel, because she kind of looks like she's throwing him under the bus, but she's actually not. She's not saying, I fully disavow what he's done. I'm not saying he should drop out. She's saying just, oh, it's your individual choice, actually. So she actually is not disavowing him. She's not. And that is the dynamic that we have in this Virginia race that this guy, we want to remind people he did not merely make a joke like, oh, you know, I have two bullets and I have Hitler, Pol Pot, and this Republican. And, you know, the Republican gets both bullets. The person he sent that message to got offended. So he called her on the phone to be. To tell her, no, no. Why are you being soft? No, you got to kill people. You got to. You have to have their kids die or they're not going to change their mind. And then she sends the text back that says, you shouldn't be wishing for children to die. Why not? Why shouldn't I wish that? This guy is deranged. And the Democrat Party of Virginia is not able to disavow that.
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Yeah, and the down ticket ballot, we were talking about this earlier. That's important in a race. And so if you're AG candidate and then the governor candidate, if they're misaligned or they're not aligned on messaging, that's a big problem.
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Yeah, and we want to emphasize that point, too. So Charlie was always very good at this. He talked about this in his book, too. There are offices besides president that matter in this country. There are offices besides the Senate. There are officers besides Governor. It makes a big deal in your state whether you have a good ag or a lunatic who wants your children to die big time. And just look, actually, you know, last night they indicted Letitia James in New York, and we don't have time to get to that now. I'm sure we'll talk about it in the future. But Letitia James did unprecedented lawfare against not just President Trump, but some of his supporters against the nra. If we had a more sane ag, that wouldn't have happened. Yeah, you can unleash incredible amounts of lawfare if you have a bad state. AG polls have been coming out indicating that this race is very close. This is a winnable race. So if you are in Virginia, you have no excuse to not turn out to vote because, oh, I live in a blue state. Yeah, you always have to try. You always have to vote. You always have to tell your neighbors and friends to vote.
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It's your duty.
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I've been around a while. I've seen a lot of elections in Virginia that looked unwinnable and then we either won them or we lost by half a percent. Don't let it happen this time. Make sure you get out to vote and get out to vote in New Jersey as well.
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I'm sure a lot of people have realized by now and we certainly have realized it today. And in fact, in about a couple hours is going to mark the exactly one month since what happened at Utah Valley. Both of us were present for that. We think about it every day, of course, and I imagine we'll think about it every day for a very long time. All very horrible. But what we have seen is Charlie's example, Charlie's life, Charlie's martyrdom has really inspired a huge upsurge of faith and enthusiasm among young people. We've seen tremendous growth in chapter requests and in people joining the chapters that already exist. So we wanted today, and hopefully in many weeks going forward, to talk to the heads of those college chapters that Charlie cared so much about. And so, Mikey, do you want to introduce two of them that we have on today?
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I think we make this a weekly thing. Every Friday we'll have some chapter leaders on tposa, chapter presidents, maybe. So we had a group chat called Gen Z Lab Rats. And this is a group chat that Charlie put together of just a bunch of Gen Z chapter leaders that he wanted to get their input on everything. And so today we have two of those chapter leaders joining us. It's Dino Fontagrassi, who is the chapter president of the University of Arkansas, and Brady Salmon, who's the chapter leader president of University of Kentucky. And both of these guys have seen tremendous growth on their campuses, on their social media accounts, everywhere across the board. So I first want to just open up, asking them some of the experiences that they've seen on campus, whether it be students showing up for the first time, chapter people joining their chapters for the first time. Guys, what stories have you heard? How has the growth been since 9, 10 to present in about 2 hours? It's going to be a month since that horrible day. But what have you seen that they can encourage a lot of us?
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Let's go, Dino first.
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Sure. So we started off on September 8 with about 75 registered members. Since then we have increased all the way to over 400 since earlier this week we crossed 400. So that's been incredible. We've had Alex Stein, we've had Bryland Hollyhand in our Instagram following. Went from about 1.2k. We're over 16k today. So there's been an incredible movement of people towards us, running towards us, not away in the face of something terrible. And I think that should be encouraging for everybody listening in today.
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Wow. What about you, Brady? What have you seen?
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Yeah, we started, I think we had around 60 members and now we're at about 200. And just. Yeah, just comparing the first two meetings, our first meeting had 12 members and the next meeting we had 70.
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Wow.
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So it's very clear these people, that they might not have been politically active, felt drawn to carry on Charlie Kirk's message. And we've seen that continue on campus with so many people starting to get out there and starting to join our chapter and to just let right wing voices known on campus, both on our campus and then on the small colleges across Kentucky. It has been unbelievable to see these execs get out there and try to carry the message out, even if the administrators try to cut them off at any time they can.
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Wow. Incredible. Both these young men, I met them while working with Charlie and Dino. I actually met you when you're a freshman University of Arkansas. Charlie was on campus speaking for the first time and that's a. I felt like forever ago, but I can't believe all this time has passed. So you guys are on the front lines as the students of this movement and so you are the Gen Z lab rats who are on the front lines seeing what's happening on campuses, seeing what ideas are spreading with Gen Z folks on campus, seeing what professors are indoctrinating students with. Whatever you are seeing, guys, you're on the front lines. Have you seen political violence on campus? What have you seen? That's crazy. Do you have any stories like that?
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So, yeah, I mean, I think that this is something that basically everybody that goes to a major school in the United States of America that is a part of a chapter of Turning Point Point USA has experienced. I've been slapped, I've been spit on, I've been screamed at by students and professors alike. Obviously I'm in Arkansas, so I probably don't have it nearly as bad as some of my friends at say, you know, Los Angeles or even. Brady has a crazy story of his own, I believe.
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Yeah, I got a voicemail the other day while I was in class and they were calling us toilet paper USA and a bunch of Nazis.
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So.
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And that's just the first of many instances where they do not care what they tell you, they just want to get at you anytime they can. And I'm sure many presidents across the country have experienced the same.
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And this has been going on even in the last month. Have you been seeing, have you run into any literal or would be antifa who've, you know, gloated about what happened or tried to troll you? We've seen that at some. We saw that at Northern Arizona the other week.
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Yeah, we did.
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Someone was harassing. Have you guys seen any of that?
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It's been a little more chill where I'm at. We did have somebody last Friday who kind of walked past the table and he said, man, that sucks what happened to your man's. And he kind of like you know, indicated at his neck and Whatnot. Lots of people do that kind of stuff. But I think where I'm at, people are a little more, they kind of lay back. Maybe it's because we have advanced concealed carry on our campus so they don't actually know what somebody has. It's a little more laid back where I'm at, but I've definitely seen it at other universities a lot more prominently.
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Yeah, well, Gen Z and the younger generation in general was a very important thing for Charlie. It was the thing, it was the thing for Charlie. Everything he saw in his life he looked through a lens of how does this impact the younger generation and what can I do to look out for them? And so we have some clips from his interview with Tucker Carlson. But before we throw to those, I just want to ask you guys, what are you seeing that Gen Z cares about right now? Policies? What, what are they facing, the challenges they're facing? You guys are on the ground, whether it be with your chapter members or when you're tabling on campus or when you're just talking to friends at dinner. What are you seeing right now that Gen Z cares about the most?
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I would say the biggest topic I'm seeing is immigration and I saw that before Trump got elected it was a big thing he ran on with the mass deportations and that is something that Gen Z really does want to see get followed through. So immigration and we can tie to the H1B visas, anything involving that Gen Z is very much fighting to keep our country alive on that issue and just try to keep it going the best we can. I would say that's definitely the best one.
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All right. Yeah. So let's play this was Charlie on Tucker. I think it was last August. Yeah.
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And play 146.
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The age of a first time home buyer in 2008 was 30 years old. It is now 38 years old. First time home buyer. So what is causing this? Well, number one, I don't want to get like too Ron Paul libertarian, but the Federal Reserve pumping in cheap money post 2008 has just been a catastrophe. We have spent too much money, borrowed too much money. We have deteriorated our currency and the purchasing power every generation is getting weaker. So your dollar is actually going, it's going, it's going less and less as far as. Yes, as it, as it, as it has year over year. So then what is the consequence of this? So you have a generation that is renting a lot more than it's owning. So when you do not own something, why would you defend it? So. And so you find them political radical, radicalization start to seep in because an entire generation is getting routinely cynical year over year as their net worth either stays at zero or goes into negative.
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Wow.
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Yeah, let's throw up.372 as well. That's a graphic that Danny found us earlier. It's the rise in the average age of home birth. Oh, the text on that is really tiny.
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Well, you can see the latter goes to 38. So in 2010. And then before that it was about 30 years of age to buy your first time home. And then now it's 38 and it's only increasing. And if you look at the 80s, the average income versus what it cost to buy a home was only about two times your wages. Now it's. It's like ten times your wages.
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Do you hear about those things, Dino and Brady?
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I mean, we hear about them all the time. Right here in Fayetteville, we've got a huge problem with housing. And it's a. There's a multitude of reasons that we could get into predominantly here. One of the main things that we have to worry about is the university keeps enrolling more and more students beyond their capacity to house them without really any thought of what that means for the people in the city. But, you know, in other places, the country, the factors are different. And part of one of those reasons might be that you have a investor that keeps going in. Every time there's a house in the market, they buy it on the spot before anybody can touch it. Maybe that's a private investor, maybe that's a equity firm. It doesn't matter. A lot of the houses are simply being bought up by entities bigger than you and me, and we can't compete.
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Yeah, this is an important thing because I assume both of you guys want to own a house one day. And so you have this young generation who's going in debt because of college, in debt because of BNPL programs. Their wages aren't keeping up with the cost of inflation. And what they're doing is they're graduating college with degrees to go get jobs that don't exist. And so now they're thrown into the labor market that's already shrinking, and they're told to just pull yourself up by the bootstraps and figure it out by a lot of the older generation. And so this is coming from somebody who is Gen Z, by the way. And so it's hard to hear that because I don't necessarily think I'm one.
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Of the millennial oppressors here.
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Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, he's one of the oppressors, guys. But this is important because I don't necessarily think the bootstrap still exists. I want to hear from both of you guys what you guys think about the bootstrap, the way you pull yourself.
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Up by your bootstraps line.
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Well, yeah, I just think it's totally out of touch and it's not something this generation really attaches itself to because we see where the situation is now. We see the tuition going up by 1200 percent and we see that our generation is really being set back. We see that it's hard for us to get jobs with H1B visas and we do not want to have to force ourselves to fix this without help. As long as it's efficient, that's all we're asking for.
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Dino.
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Right. So my biggest concern with this argument that you have to pull yourself up by your bootstraps is if nobody has bootstraps and effectively you're telling them to do something that's basically impossible for them to do. And that's why you see a big push towards somebody like Zoran Mamdani who is promising a bunch of free people to young people. In my generation, that sounds really good on paper, but we've seen what that looks like when these type of people promising these policies get in power. It looks like Venezuela, it looks like the Soviet Union, it looks like China, and it's not good. And lots of people tend to die. So we can't do that in America. We've got to find a better solution.
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It has been an honor and a.
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Privilege to partner with Turningpoint and for.
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Charlie to endorse us. His endorsement means the world to us.
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And we look forward to continuing our partnership with Turning Point for years to come.
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We have a bit of a breaking news element here. Just the Department of Justice has arrested and will be charging someone who made dangerous threats against the family of our friend Benny Johnson. He said he hated their views and he sent a letter to their home saying he wanted them dead. And the DOJ has arrested that person. And I think. I think that's the right move. I think actions have consequences. No, don't even reduce it to actions have consequences because you can justify anything with that. Specifically, we want to hone in on if you make assassination threats or celebrate assassinations that is too lethal to the health of our republic, of our democracy, as they like to say that it can't be tolerated. You have freedom of speech on basically everything else. I mean, Charlie and I said you could burn an American flag if you wanted to, but you cannot tell people that you are going to kill them and you can't celebrate it when it happens, period. And so we greatly support this.
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Okay, so we were. We're gonna throw to this, but we ran out of time. But we're gonna throw it to it right now. 377. This is an article from Fortune. It says today's housing market is so upside down that there are more senior citizens buying homes than Gen Z and millennials. Yikes.
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Booming, booming out of control.
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And then there's another article that Sundays. This is CNBC. Investors are making up the highest share of home buyers in five years. So between investors, this is BlackRock, Blackstone, and senior citizens. Where are the houses going?
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B
You know, I looked, we talked about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps. And it's become so difficult for the younger generations. I just had to search what actually is a bootstrap because it occurred to me, I wasn't really sure. It's the little strap from the back of the boot. It turns out you could attach it to something else.
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C
Well, let's play clip 147. This is Charlie's own words. And then we're gonna get you guys to react to this.
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B
What policy do you support to make it easier for young people to buy homes?
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A
Get rid of BlackRock. Purchasing a bunch of homes and renting them back to us.
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B
Okay, so like seize their assets, not.
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A
Seize their Assets make it illegal that asset managers over $500 billion can't buy single family homes.
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E
Okay.
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B
I really agree with that. That's actually.
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E
That's.
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B
That's great.
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A
Thank you. It's a super simple policy fix. If you have assets under management over 500 billion or 100 billion, you should not be in the single family home business, period.
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B
Okay.
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A
And that's artificially boosting housing prices across the country. I believe homeownership is a moral good for all humans.
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B
Yeah. I think it's a very interesting thing that you have to recognize they're not just an investment thing. We're recognizing that it is good for people to own things because it gives stake in society.
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C
Society. And so, Dino, why don't you react to this?
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E
Sure. So when you say that boomers and older are buying all of the houses, we have to keep in mind that if they're not buying them from BlackRock, they're buying them from each other. They're effectively sitting here and trading houses back and forth the same way millennials trade Pokemon cards. And that's not good because I got.
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B
Rid of my Pokemon cards years ago. Dino. I'm just gonna say that.
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E
Okay, look, I got rid of mine, too, because I found that they were a distraction and I had work to do. But it's true. They're just trading them back and forth to one another. Of course it's going to be impossible because that's how the prices get artificially boosted, you know, because they bought a house in 1987 or before that, and it cost them $50,000 cash in hand in a basket of mulberries. And how could we possibly compete when today that same house is what, 500, 600, $700 million or not million? Excuse me, thousand. But still, it's way out of range for somebody in my generation.
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A
Yeah.
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C
What about you, Brady?
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F
Well, yeah, I mean, when you have real estate investors buying a third of all single family properties, and you now have families living in RVs and renting instead of owning a home, I mean, that's clear to everybody that when boomers and investors are buying all of these houses up, it's really just setting us behind, and then we're told to pick us up by our own bootstraps. And it's like you're. You're really setting us back, and then now you're expecting us to just figure it out by ourselves. And it really just doesn't work like that. And they're really not taking that to consider what really we need and what Is our.
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B
Exactly. And you know, one of the themes Charlie was hitting on so much just the last few months, he was, he talked about that choice, Mamdanism or maga. And what drives so much of mamdanism is that nihilistic sense of, you know, if I own nothing, if I have nothing, I might as well turn the entire system over, overthrow everything, because maybe I'll get something and if not, I can tear down the people above me. It's a very resentment based ideology. And the offset to that is you have to give people a stake in things. You have to give them something they don't want to blow up and throw away. And it's such a basic thing. And we need to. When we structure our laws, we have to think about that. Because one of the biggest reasons housing just keeps going up is we kind of just baked into the assumption housing prices have to go up. They're an investment for everybody. And you know, it's gonna be very difficult to navigate this, but we have to really move towards this. A house is something that people live in and they need to own it themselves ideally. And that is how you'll avoid some sort of gigantic revolution.
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C
And I'll just say this too. There's a moment in that clip we played where the student agrees with Charlie and he's like, yeah, and like kind of smiles.
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B
Charlie's so good at that.
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C
He was so good at that in his Tucker interview. Tucker goes, how do you know these things? And Charlie goes, well, Tucker, half the time I spend a hundred hours on campus in the spring and the fall. Half the time I have my mic down, I'm just listening. So this is our challenge to the older people watching this. Put the mic down. Just listen.
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B
Talk a little bit. Talk to your grand younger kids. Talk to us about what they're really feeling about these things.
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C
Yes.
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B
Can they afford things?
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C
Put the mic down. Just listen a little bit.
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B
Yeah.
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C
Awesome.
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B
You know, Dino Brady, thank you for coming on and best of luck continuing to grow your chapters and we'll be having more chapter heads on in the weeks to come. Yeah.
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C
Thank you, Dino. Thank you, Brady.
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E
Absolutely.
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B
Thank you.
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F
Thank you.
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B
For more on many of these stories.
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C
And news you can trust, go to charliekirk.
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E
Com.