Andrew Colvette (2:30)

Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Charlie Kirk is on assignment today. It's your guest host. Honored to be with you as always, Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this fine show. Always a pleasure. Charlie's on assignment today. Well earned, by the way. I feel like we haven't stopped working genuinely for the last, you know, nine years. No worse for wear, I hope. But we tried to warn you, folks. We tried to warn you. And what am I talking about? I'm talking about amnesty. Amnesty by another name, soft amnesty, whatever you want to call it. The amnesty drums in Washington are beating. They are the only drums that are nearly as loud and as predictable as, as the war drums. We tried to warn you. But yet here we are after everything you've been through, after the incredible success that was November 5, 2024, President Trump winning a landslide electoral victory, winning the popular vote, coming back from the political ashes to overtake this beautiful nation and govern it once more as the 47th president of the United States. President promising mass deportations, promising to set right the ills and the evils and the wrongs of the Biden administration that led in upwards, potentially as many as 20 million illegal immigrants. Amnesty drums are once again beating, banging loudly and we tried to warn you. I will never forget, Charlie blew the whistle on this a couple of weeks ago and, and you know, I couldn't help but see some of the comments online saying, oh, you're just doing this for clicks. Oh, you're just trying to be an influencer, whatever. No, this was very clear. This was, we were getting warnings and heads up from official people, lawmakers, people with the knowledge of the proceedings, warning us that amnesty was going to be coming, that a bill was going to be proposed. And sure enough, here we get the so called Dignity act of 2025. I'm gonna play the clip for you. You decide and you tell me if we were just blowing smoke, if we were raising a false alarm for clicks or if somebody just got proved extraordinarily and sadly right. Play cut 4:02 they did break the law.

Rep. Maria Salazar (4:59)

They are illegals or undocumented, but they have been here for more than five years. They contributing to the economy. Those people, someone gave them a job and they are needed because we need hands in order to continue being the number one economy in the world. So why don't we do something Solomonic and let's break the baby into two. No Path to citizenship. In my law, no amnesty, no path ever. Just bring them out of the shadows, make them pay a fine for seven years. That is billions of dollars to the treasury, make them give us 1% of their salary over seven years, no federal programs, no health insurance, and then they can go back home for Christmas. They can come back, continue working, buying homes, paying taxes and contributing to the economy.

Andrew Colvette (5:46)

Do you see what she did there? That's Rep. Salazar from the Miami area in Florida. Used to be a TV host. Yep, that's the Dignity act of 2025. So full operational control of the border and E verify. Well, those things should already be in place. The basically saying if you get in, if you got into the United States before 2021, so before the Biden era, that you would, you would be allowed to stay. So, so cut all the garbage about no pathway to citizenship. That's what they want you to focus on. We don't care about that. Okay, obviously we care, but that's not the main issue here. No pathway to citizenship. That's not the critical piece. This is diet amnesty. This is low calorie amnesty. But in some ways this is worse. And let me explain why. And we know this because we've, we've talked to the people that are tasked with Trump's mass deportation again, his very popular, very successful mass deportation policy. And by the way, the Congress just passed resources in the one big, beautiful bill to, to execute upon. And here's the key, here's the kicker, here's the ruse I want you to focus on. There is no way to tell with most illegal immigrants when they enter the United States. So all you have to do is say the magic words, oh, I came in 2020. Oh, I came in 2019. I've been working since then. Well, we don't have any documentation. Well, I can prove it, but it's going to take me some time. Okay, let's put you in this corner court date in 18 years and you can just stay and keep doing exactly what you're doing. And by the way, while you're at it, maybe your TO and your TIA or whoever, whatever country you come from is also going to be able to come, or maybe your sister or your brother already has permanent residency and they're going to bring their family members via chain migration. And the cycle continues now. So here's the deal. It is not, this is not soft amnesty. This will grind mass deportations to a halt. Hear me again, this will grind. President Trump's very popular, very successful majority of Americans want all Illegals removed. Poll after poll after poll. Between 55 and 65% in the polling want all illegals deported. Doesn't matter. Their status, doesn't matter. Their sob story. Doesn't matter what loophole or what emotional trigger you want to use.55 to 65, depending on the poll of Americans, want deportations of all illegals. And you could make a case that President Trump was elected because of a variety of things. Trade agreements, ending all wars, men and women's sports. All of these things are important. Yes. And President Trump has a massively popular platform politically, policy wise, everything's important. But there is inarguably a cornerstone to it all, and that is that we were going to put Americans first once and for all, finally and forever, or at least while we have control. So, Mass, this is worse than soft amnesty. And don't give me the line that just because there's no pathway to citizenship that this doesn't count as amnesty. This is creating a loophole that will be exploited. And I want to take you back as well to the Simpson Miss Only act of 1986. And we talked about this on this show. Charlie's talked about it at length, where we were promised limited amnesty for border security. Well, we got the amnesty and it wasn't limited. And we got zero border security. We got zero immigration control. Now, they promised that that was going to be between 350, 500,000, and.

Mansoor Ashkar (9:47)

It.

Andrew Colvette (9:47)

Ended up being about 3 million people. Because guess what? Illegal immigrants that have broken your laws to get into your country in the first place are pretty good at continuing to exploit loopholes to allow them to stay. Repeat, if they cheated to get in in the first place, they'll cheat to stay. So do not, do not fall for it. Do not fall for the soft amnesty. Do not fall for the sob stories. Don't fall for the crops are gonna be rotting in the fields. Don't fall for any of this stuff. We are at a turning point, a linchpin, a pivot in our economy, where we are being warned that college graduates that were born here, raised here, went to school here, are not able to get jobs because of the AI revolution. And we need a lot of those people, yes, to go into the trades. But even the trades will eventually be subject to the same march of history that we're all staring down the barrel of. We do not need to flood our country with more people. We do not need to create loopholes for more people to stay and to exploit. Because guess what? When they say it's not amnesty, it Always is Amnesty, period. When they say something to get you to soften your resolve, just remember, double down on your resolve. Hold fast and know they're lying to you. No more sob stories. We want what we voted for. And that is the basic American promise. What the people want, the people get. No amnesty. No amnesty by another name. Figure it out, folks. We tried to tell you. And here it is.

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Andrew Colvette (12:41)

So I was just going to play a couple pieces of tape here. Obviously immigration massively an important issue for President Trump. Candidly, it's my favorite issue to get behind President Trump on it. And there's a whole laundry list of great issues. But this is when you know that you're winning. When you got Bernie Sanders died in the wool basically. He's a socialist, but he might be really more like a communist. He used to be all on the immigration restrictionism. He used to be on that, on that team. Then he flaked because it became not popular anymore with the Democrat base. And now even he is starting to sound a certain way, almost like he's, you know, you know, put his finger to the wind, felt which direction the country was going.393.

Bernie Sanders (13:27)

Look, this is where I think the American people are at. If you are a drug dealer, if you are somebody in this country undocumented or has committed a crime, I think most people think, hey, have a nice day, you're out of here. And I support that.

Andrew Colvette (13:46)

Ah, so even Bernie is trying to say, hey, listen, I'm not crazy on immigration. Well, your party is. Mamdani is. These people are legitimately nuts when it comes to this. They don't want you to have a country. They don't want you to have a border. And the last thing we need is some weak in the need Republicans in the House to start giving them ammunition to soften up. No, you advance. You advance. You push forward. You don't retreat. You push forward. This is why we love Stephen Miller, right? There's this great meme, by the way. It's like, you know, trust the plan. Get nervous about the plan. Read Stephen Miller's tweets, trust the plan. I mean, Stephen Miller is a stalwart on immigration and we love him for it. And this is him confirming that we have a. We've already got a million self deportations. We've known that on this show. If you watch the show every day, we've known that for a while. I've heard unconfirmed take with a grain of salt. I heard that number's actually more like 1.5 million now. It's happening every day as we speak. Tens of thousands of people are leaving because we're being serious about immigration for once. 391.

Jesse Kelly (14:53)

If illegal aliens understand the consequences of staying versus the opportunities of leaving, we're gonna see millions and millions more self deportations. Because if you stay, here's the consequences you, you face. Sudden arrest, sudden deportation. If you choose to self deport, you can go back home. You do have the opportunity to apply for legal entry if you wish to do so in the future. And you're going to get a $1,000 check on your way out. This is a very clear choice. And we're seeing over a million legal aliens are clearly choosing just to go back to their countries.

Andrew Colvette (15:26)

That's great. You don't need dignity of act of 2025, just you get the dignity of like, hey, we're gonna, we're not gonna arrest you. We're not gonna attack you in the streets. Just come check in on the app. We're gonna be a thousand dollars free flight home. It's gonna be amazing. And by the way, that saves us taxpayers money. It's something like $17,500 per arrest and deportation. And it's only, you know, it's like 4,500 bucks when you add it all up to get them home and to do it in a nice peaceful civil way. But again, let's keep our eye on the prize, folks. This is not about, you know, crops rotting. This is what they always say. This is what they always say and why. We raised the alarm so loudly a couple weeks ago and you know, the clips went viral. Everybody's talking about it. There is a prize for us now. We're starting to see this. Job gains. Native born Americans, they are through the roof, over 2 million of them. Job losses for foreigners, it's down almost 500,000. This is good. This is the social compact playing out that you were born in this country, you will die in this country, you will raise your kids in this country. And guess what? Your country will consider you before all others. Your dignity, your welfare, your job prospects. And again, Stephen Miller gets it. 421.

Jesse Kelly (16:44)

Do you have any idea how many resources will be opened up for Americans when the illegals are gone? No more waiting in line at an emergency room. No more massive traffic in Los Angeles. Your health insurance premiums go down. Your public school classroom size will shrink dramatically. They have more time to educate every student. You won't have to compete for public benefits. If you're down on your luck, you're having a hard time and you do need to get support from the government. You're not going to be in line buying millions of illegal aliens from the third world. This is going to be such a gift to the quality of life of everyday Americans. Jesse it's hard to even express the wonders that await for working people.

Andrew Colvette (17:24)

It's hard to even express the wonders that await folks. I'm not trying to be cruel, obviously. I think you guys know the heart of this show. I hope hopefully you know where I come from on this. If you give them an inch, they will take a mile. If you carve out a little loophole, they will be exploiting that till the kingdom come. And we don't have enough lawyers or courts to handle all of that backlog. You have to be firm, you have to be resolute and you have to get the job done. And that's it.

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Andrew Colvette (19:41)

I'm very excited by our next guest. I wanted to cover this story today, and it was like I felt like there was just this divine appointment where I was able to connect and talk about what's happening in Syria with the Druze. And here to help me unpack that is Mansoor Ashkar. He actually is based in Israel, right on the border there. So, Mansoor, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Honored to have you. I'm so sorry for what's happening to your people. You are Drews. Now, I'll let you explain the backstory, what the current situation is on the ground. But yesterday over on the Internet, I mean, all I was seeing was pictures of, oh, Israel is bombing Syria. And so I wanted to unpack what that means. Bibi Netanyahu has made a statement. We'll get there. Please tell us about yourself and what the current situation is.

Mansoor Ashkar (20:38)

Well, thanks for having me on your show. I'm a big fan. I follow you guys quite a lot. I'm an Israeli Druze. I was a former officer in the IDF and the special forces and a former negotiator. And I also grew up in this land. My family, all the relatives are from Lebanon, Syria and Israel. It's funny that you mentioned that it came to the attention of many Americans only when Israel bombed in Syria. And that shows us again how mainstream media choose what to show and what not to show because they didn't show that for three days. Before that, there was an October 7th, pretty much that was going on the Druze community in Syria. Babies were slaughtered, elderly Sheikhs had their beard shaved like the Holocaust and then executed. And 80 years old Sheikh and many others going, they slaughtered the whole hospital, the Jawlani people. By the way, the government of Syria, not Al Qaeda or isis. The government did that alongside the ISIS fighters in Al Qaeda. They were all going together to slaughter the Jews. They brought tanks, they brought artillery, grad missile, that's Russian missiles to attack a village, basically in the aim to ethnically cleanse. But mainstream media did not mention that. Now, the only reason it got stopped is because Israel went and shot a rocket at J's Ministry of Defense house. We saw that video, kind of crazy video. She's sitting there talking and the building explodes behind. That's basically the Pentagon of Syria. So only then. And they took down many of the tanks that came to murder civilians. Only then these jihadists got scared and started running back and went back with their tails between their legs. And because Israel came and told him, if you try to kill these minorities, by the way, Christians as well. They burned churches, they killed Christians. I have sources on the ground in Syria that are fighting in the front line, including ones that are at home. Usually the older brother will go to war with his gun to defend his family, and the younger one, his father will come and put a gun in his hand and tell him, son, you just became a man. You don't let them come to this house and you don't let them take your mother, your sister alive. So that's the situation. Now, I see you might want to have some questions, so please let me know. So I don't just kind of run.

Andrew Colvette (22:49)

Yeah, no, no, I appreciate. I mean, again, my heart goes out to your people. And, you know, for those who don't know, you know, Druze is a. Is a religion that a lot of people are not in America especially, are not familiar with. It's monotheistic. It you guys, Druze keep their religious beliefs secret from outsiders. There are about 150,000 Druze in Israel, which it sounds like that's your community. So making up about 10% of the Arab citizens of Israel and about half the population of the Golan Heights, which is interesting. There's about a million Druze overall. It's a spinoff of Islam going back about a thousand years. So they're an Abrahamic monotheistic religion and they see Jesus and Muhammad as prophets. But again, this is pretty obscure for most Americans. Right. And we don't have to get into all the theology of it. But you said something, I think that's really important. So we see the rise of Ahmad Al. What's his name again here? Al Sharah Al Shra. So the new leader of Syria, and we've been hearing these reports that Christians are getting targeted and now Druze. What to separate fact from fiction. Why are they doing this? Are they trying. Is this new leadership of Syria, are they targeting Christian Jews out of pure ethnic cleansing? Like, what's the motivation here?

Mansoor Ashkar (24:16)

Pure ethnic cleansing and the will to build the Muslim Ummah over Syria and later on over the world. The thing is, with Ahmad Al Shara ul Jawlani, it's very interesting to me how someone with an Olympic track record of a terrorist, not just a normal terrorist, he. He was in Al Qaeda and ISIS at its prime, became a general, a very high official in these two, and then jumped and created his own terrorist organization. And then one day he just puts a jacket and started looking like a hipster. And people start believing that he's a good guy. Everything up until now shows that he had clear intention of killing anyone in Syria that is not Muslim, that is not Sunnah also. And he started doing that to the Christians, he started doing that to Alawat, and now he's trying to do that to the Druze. Actually, I just tried translated audio message that was sent by some of the officials from his regime to the soldiers of his government in Arabic. And I put it in my Instagram with English and Hebrew subtitles. And it said this. Please stop using cameras when you go your phones when you're going to slaughter these Druze pigs. Shave their beards, slaughter them. Slit the throat, do it. Burn their houses. Just don't use cameras. And listen to the next part. He said, don't do the same mistake that we did in the coast. He's referring to when they killed the Christians over there. We did that and that backfired. So do all these things, just don't film it. And then he adds another command to them. The IDF air force is coming to target us. They want to stop us from committing a genocide. So start using human shields. Start hiding among the population and hide your tanks and vehicles and Toyotas between the houses. So you're getting a very clear Hamas style, Hezbollah style order to commit the worst thing on the face of this planet. Just please don't film it. And they did that to the Christians. They're doing it right now to the Druze. That's the image. This Sheikh is 80 years old, peaceful men. And they're doing that. That's the army, by the way. And they're doing that with Glee with rejoicing. Just like we saw in the Holocaust when they gathered the rabbis.

Andrew Colvette (26:20)

Mansoor, can you explain what the significance of shaving the beard of a Druze person? What does that mean and why is it such an insult?

Mansoor Ashkar (26:31)

So the Druze religion sees himself descended from Jethro, the father in law of Moses, the father of Zippoa. The welcomed Moses to his tribe and taught him leadership and everything. And that's where they see themselves very connected to Judaism, Christianity, by the way. That's where they see themselves originated. The Druze believe that once you become a religious man, you detach yourself from earthly pleasures like putting jewelry, trying to take care. And they grow this beard and they're very famous for the mustache. That's a very sign like you know of. Just like the Jews have the tzitzit, you know, that comes out of their hair kind of things. So the Druze have their mustache. They're very known to very, very proud, long mustaches. A little bit kind of monks, kind of the looks. And the Muslims, they know that. And they know that in order to humiliate the Druze before they execute them, they shave their beard, which is just like the Nazis did to the Jews.

Andrew Colvette (27:24)

Interesting. And then do we know what happened to that gentleman after this? Do we have any? He got executed.

Mansoor Ashkar (27:31)

Yeah, him and many others. I would say this. Could I share a personal story that explains this whole thing in the best way so the west can understand?

Andrew Colvette (27:39)

Course, Please.

Mansoor Ashkar (27:41)

And I'll do it very quick because I know we're running out of time. The There were three genocidal attempts in the area of the Middle east in the last two years. And all three of them were stopped by Israel. First, Hamas came and tried to genocide all the Jews. They stopped them because Israel, the IDF contained it. They would have if they could have. Their aim was to kill all the Jews. Second, Hezbollah wanted to do the same. Israel stopped them. Third was Iran. They wanted to nuke basically Israel. Israel stopped them from the genocidal plan. Now the fourth one is the Syrians came to genocide basically, or exterminate, ethnically cleanse the Druze. If the Druze men would have fallen down in their mountain, no one would have stopped the slaughter. They were moving house to house, murdering women, children, burning them, cutting their heads, putting it outside the doors as they moved to the next house. Terrible, terrible things. We saw in ISIS doing it. And then Israel intervened. Now where does the story become personal? My relative, which I didn't know he existed until the Assad regime fell down, sent me A mess. And Tolimansur, they're outside of our house right now. They're coming to kill us. I am here. He's a young man. I'm here. My father told me to protect the family. I don't know what to do. And I'm trying to talk to him, and then I lose contact for three days. I don't hear from the guy. And I'm thinking the worst things possible. What happened to him? Only today I heard from him. He sent me a message, and he tells me, thank you, Israel, thank you. The idf, they came and they gathered us outside and they started torturing us, investigating. They wanted to see if we have any weapons before they kill us. And just before they came to execute us, the fighter jets of Israel came roaring in the skies. And these jihadists got scared. Then some of their men managed to jump on, grab the weapons, and other Druids came to the village and fought and pushed them back. They managed to escape under the fire of tanks, artillery, and military drones that apparently were provided by Qatar and Turkey. They managed to escape. The village, barely survived, only to come back a later, after the IDF took care of these very satanic, evil, radical jihadists to find that their houses were burned, looted. There's trucks, videos of, you know, Bedouins and, you know, jihadists driving with trucks full of chandeliers, crosses everything that they can loot from. They usually melt these things from a church, from a hill way. That's Israel, the Jewish synagogue, from the houses. So Israel saved them. And then the world, what does the world come and say? Israel is attacking Syria. Israel goes out of its way.

Andrew Colvette (30:16)

And so let me read you from Bibi Netanyahu. He said, I want to update you on what we've done in Syria and what we will do in Syria. We've set a clear policy, demilitarization of the area south of Damascus, from the Golan Heights to Jabal Al Jaz region. That's one red line. And then he explained that he was doing this to save the Druze. And he shares a story from Sheikh Moafak Tarif. Yeah, the leader of the Druze community in Israel. He said it the following. During the Holocaust, when your people, the Jews were being slaughtered, you cried out for help and no one came. Today, our people, the Druze, are being slaughtered, and we are calling for the help of the state of Israel. And I said, he's right. We acted and we'll continue to act as needed. So, I mean, he saved a genocide. I mean, I think that's fair to say in this instance, and when the haters say that this Bibi's just doing this because it's a land grab in the south part of Syria, what do you say to that?

Mansoor Ashkar (31:18)

I say that's the silliest thing in the world. Israel has been engaged in war in seven fronts for more than 600 days. We've depleted our army. Our soldiers are tired and exhausted. Do you really think we're going to go and look for another war in another foreign land to save people that are not citizens of Israel, not Jewish, from their own government, that want to kill their own citizens? That is the dumbest thing in the world. Israel did that because they are doing the right thing, which is the call for Israel to be light for the nations. And I wish that America and other countries will do that to protect Christians around the world.

Andrew Colvette (31:50)

Yeah. Amen. We need to be protecting the Christians in Syria. That's an absolute, absolute mandate. I wish I had more time. Munster, thank you so much for making the time, brother. Thank you and be well.

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Andrew Colvette (32:59)

All right, so we have covered a lot of ground here. One thing I didn't tell you about yet, and it's very important is the rescission package. And I'm not going to spend this whole segment on it, but it's very, very important and it we have now successfully proved that you can defund some stuff in D.C. the act cancels. Now it's passed. And it. The act cancels 8.3 billion in funding for foreign aid programs, including 2.5 from the development assistance out of 3.9 billion that has been appropriated. So 2.5, almost the vast majority of it. 1.65 billion from the economic support fund, which promotes stability in other countries. Sure. 1 billion from global health programs through USAID. 800 million from migration and Refugee services. That's too bad, isn't it? 500 million and 400 million from global health programs under different headings in the full year. Continuing Appropriations Act 2025. It also eliminates. It permanently rescinds 1.1 billion in funding for the Corporation of Public Broadcasting for fiscal year 2026 and 2027, effectively cutting federal support for NPR and PBS. How do you guys like them apples? That is some good news right there, folks. So we have essentially cut off the most bias biased news media outlet. Well, I mean, it's, it's tough to say who's the most biased. Biased, isn't it? But it's certainly very good news. And, you know, three cheers for our friends in Congress for actually cutting some spending. Let's go ahead and play a cut for 16. As far as the accusations that were biased, I would stand up and say, please show me a story that concerns you because we want to know and we want to bring that conversation back to our newsroom. Oh, we got, we could show you. I have some firsthand experience from that. So here's the other thing I just want to show you. And this is just so rich with everything swirling in the news, everything going on, you know, Trump, you gotta give it to him. I know there's been consternation. I know all this stuff. But guess what? His approval rating with the base is up 387.

Jamie Raskin (35:28)

Yeah, I mean, look, I think this one surprised me a bit because of all these complaints online. Going after Trump and the Epstein files, you might think his approval ratings were going down. Republicans, if anything, they're going up. Republicans who approve of Trump. Look at our CNN poll. The prior one, 86%. The one out this week, 88% were Republicans. How about Quinnipiac? The prior poll, 87% approved with Republicans. This week out 90% with Republicans. If anything, Donald Trump's approval rating has gone up since this whole Epstein saga started. He is at the apex or climb close there too, in terms of his popularity with Republican voters. Epstein files complaints or not, it's gotta.

Andrew Colvette (36:07)

It'S Just gotta sting if you're a Democrat or if you're somebody at CNN who just is, like, gloating over maga, having a, you know, an internal dialogue. Okay? That's what it is. It's an internal dialogue. Teflon Don strikes again. And this. So this is where I'm gonna get a little feisty. This is Jamie Raskin. But guess what? Joe Scarborough called him out. I mean, credit where it's due. Play cut. 405. This is. Okay, before we play. This is Joe Scarborough calling him out for. Why didn't you care about Epstein? You know, when you controlled the Department of Justice, Jamie, where was your calls then? 405.

Stephen Miller (36:44)

Congressman could have gotten that from 21 to 25 when Democrats controlled DOJ. Why? It was a question. Crisis then, it's a crisis now. Why didn't, why didn't Democrats call for it from 21 to 25? So, I mean, you have to go back, look specifically at particular prosecutorial decisions and what was taking place in terms of the other cases. So, I don't know, we could try to reconstruct that record. But the point is, is that Donald Trump is the one who has led the crusade to say that Epstein, who was his very close friend, and there's all kinds of pictures of them.

Andrew Colvette (37:28)

The cat's got Jamie's tongue, finally. You gotta love it. So this, I'll just say this. All you Democrats out there, all you activists in the media, and you're gloating and all this stuff, well, guess what, your polls are down. President Trump's polls are up. We're going to be just fine. We're going to get to the bottom of it. There's going to be movement. Don't worry about that. But guess what? If you're going to jump on the bandwagon now, when you were in power for four years and controlled the DOJ and didn't say squat, you can kindly sit this one out. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. We'll talk to you soon. For more on many of these stories.

Jamie Raskin (38:06)

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