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My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You gotta stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Turning Point USA College chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA High School chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life. And I encourage you to do the same. Here I am, Lord.
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Use me.
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Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. The Charlie Kirk show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, the. The leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends, and viewers.
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All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm Andrew Colvett joined by Mikey McCoy in the studio again. We get you, like, what is this the third time this week? Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro. I love it. It's great. Mikey McCoy. We also have Blake Neff.
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Is it Mikey McCoy or Michael McCoy? Because he can only be one.
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I don't know what it is actually anymore, so.
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Oh, okay. That's how it's gonna be.
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I'm just gonna rip the paper if.
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That'S even your real name.
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There is a new conspiracy theory that Mikey's name is not Mikey.
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Well, this is news to me.
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Question. Yeah. What does it say on your birth Certificate?
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Michael Thomas McCoy and the real McCoy.
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You're adding a whole additional name here.
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Thomas. You just.
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Yeah, you know, that sounds suspicious.
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My middle name is also Thomas.
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Is it really?
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Look at us. I always thought it was perfect because when I was becoming a Christian, I was like, I really struggled, so I didn't become a Christian. I was in college. I mean, I was born. I was born. Born and baptized Catholic and all that stuff. And when I went to college, I became a Christian. And I struggle with doubts, which I think is a really normal thing to do. And I always thought it was perfect because it was doubting Thomas. There you go. Yeah. Show me the wounds, Lord. Anyways, that was not where I planned to take this first run of the show at all. Anyways, Blake. Blake is. Blake is still on assignment, traveling the eastern seaboard. So we're glad he could make it, and thanks to our Friends at Real America's Voice DC for making a home for Blake here today. I want to get into, I'm going to get into this idea that they are listening to you. I think there was a sense in the last couple weeks that the administration was messaging, their messaging was off, that they weren't on point, they weren't focused. And I believe that we are seeing every single sign that you could ask for that they are listening now. More needs to be done. This is not, you know, success, moving on situation. But I want to hammer it home because now there is multiple pieces of evidence that we can glean from to show that there has been a messaging pivot that they hear. The concerns, the consternations, the anxieties of the base, the people that watch this show, the people that watch War Room before it, that listen to us on the radio, they are hearing you. And I think it's really, really important that we give credit where it's due. You can't just be a voice that is complaining all the time without offering solutions, without also giving praise where it's due. And so I just want to say that. So we talked a lot about and I went on Bannon's War Room yesterday. Charlie had given a six point checklist. It was a punch list of what we need to do to restore the social compact with Gen Z. And that included mass deportations, that included building 10 million homes, crushing the college cartel, ending H1B scam, ending diversity visas and lottery, and then also dramatically reducing legal immigration. Now, we're not on that one yet, but listen to this. There it is. That's the tweet. So listen to this. JD Vance speaks with Sean Hannity. And listen to this and tell me if you don't, if you can't also confirm that they have in fact got the memo. 353. A lot of young people are saying housing is way too expensive. Why is that? Because we flooded the country with 30 million illegal immigrants who were taking houses that ought, by right, go to American citizens. And at the same time, we weren't building enough new houses to begin with, even for the population that we had. So what we're doing is trying to make it easier to build houses, trying.
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To make it easier to build factories.
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And things like that so that people have good jobs. We're also getting all of those illegal aliens out of our country. And you're already seeing it start to pay some dividends. So what are those dividends that we're seeing? Blake, I want you to chime in Here on this. Let's go ahead and show346. This is us rent prices are declining. We have three months in a row marking the steepest October decrease in 15 years. Now, Blake, this is not huge. I think it's. What Is it down 0.31% month over month in October, but that's the steepest October decrease in 15 years. What do you make of this?
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Yeah, it's a decrease, it's in rentals, which I think, I think we're flagging is what have we complained about so much over the last few years? We've complained about illegal immigration, we've complained about too much immigration. And those people who are coming in, who are coming in as illegal immigrants, as guest workers, as low wage labor, they're typically going into the rental market. And so if we're seeing declines there, that's probably an indication that, you know, we recently had the news that the foreign born population of the US is actually falling for the first time basically in living memory. And that's going to have an impact on the housing market, which has so consistently been able to count on just kind of an endless flood of new people from abroad. And if we can lower the constant demand pressure on housing, which we've seen drive up prices in Canada, in the uk, in all a bunch of other countries, we'll hopefully get lower rental prices and that will translate over time into lower prices for, for a normal entry level home. All of, you know, housing kind of all flows together in terms of its impact on prices. And I think we're seeing that now.
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Yeah. And I think to your point, I think we've seen approximately 2 million, maybe slightly more deportations and self deportations. So we actually have less people in the continental US than we had at the beginning of Trump's presidency, which is huge. And that, that isn't despite the fact that we're still allowing for 1 to 1.2 million new green cards that are legal immigrants to the country every year. A number that I think should be at least slashed in half, if not a full moratorium. I would be totally down with a full moratorium. But it's not just, it's not just surging new homes where the admin is listening to us. Let's play 364. This is Harmeet Dillon, Assistant Attorney General. She's in the Civil Rights office and she saw all of the chaos, all of the violence that came out of UC Berkeley. And I want to give her kudos here because she's actually taking the initiative and she's going after these thugs that targeted our Turning Point USA event at UC Berkeley. Placut364 Antifa is a terrorist organization. The chapter here is called by any means necessary. I've sued them and been involved with them as well. But there's also UC Berkeley is legally on notice based on the prior litigation and the settlement about this exact type of event. And third, at the Civil Rights Division we're in charge of how the police treat the citizens. And the police in Berkeley seem to think this is kind of a sport or a joke. Equal protection under the Constitution requires that you treat citizens equally, including if you don't agree with their viewpoints. And so at all three levels and.
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Maybe more, we have some serious problems.
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And we're going to be deeply engaged in illegal action here I suspect very soon. And not only that, and you got to remember the gentleman that pulled the trigger and assassinated our friend Charlie Kirk had Bella Chow and hey fascist catch on bullet casings that authorities collected. This is Antifa. These are Antifa slogans. This is this. You know, I'm not saying he was a card carrying member. I'm saying that these ideologies spread, they're decentralized and go ahead and throw this up. This is 352. Marco Rubio, State Department, Secretary of State has designated Antifa as a foreign terrorist organization. And now we're going to bring in Andy Ngo who is probably the most accomplished, longest running journalist in the space covering Antifa and all its different permutations and geographies. And he's going to explain why this is important from a legal standpoint. Because as he will explain, there is one thing to sign an executive order designating Antifa as a domestic terror organization. But this unlocks extraordinary legal powers when you're able to say, hey, they're a foreign terrorist organization as well. So across the board we've got more examples. We are seeing the admin take action on the things that we've been talking about on the show that you've been talking about and emailing us about. This is Lane Schoenberger, chief investment officer and founding partner of Y Refi. It has been an honor and a privilege to partner with Turning Point and for Charlie to endorse us. His endorsement means the world to us and we look forward to continuing our.
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Partnership with Turning Point for years to come.
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Now here Charlie in his own words.
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Tell you about why Refi.
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We got an email from Melissa. Michael, do you have. Do you still have that? Yeah, yeah. This is pretty good. I love it. I was actually like, yes, please stop.
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Calling Tyler Robinson, the gentleman who killed Charlie. Gentlemen. Come on, guys. He's a thug, murderer, and a sick, demented freak.
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My message to Melissa. Agreed. Noted.
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Noted.
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Agreed. Yes, Agreed. So change will be made, absorbed, internalized. Thank you. Blake, I want to get your reaction to a clip because again, you have to give credit where it's due when people are actually listening to you. We have to not only be a squeaky wheel that gets the grease, we have to say thank you for listening. All right, this is Stephen Miller, who I think just absolutely nailed it. 375. We're focusing relentlessly on affordability. So President Trump's working to bring down the cost of living even more than he already has. So Thanksgiving meals are going to be 25% cheaper. But President Trump is not content with that. He is fighting to bring down the cost of every single consumer and household good. And the tax bill is going to be a huge part of this. Because when we make life more affordable for our companies, for domestic industry, for. For domestic manufacturing with 100% expensing with the largest tax cuts in history, then prices are going to keep coming down. And proof, proof, Blake, I'll get reaction. I decided I wanted to link two together. 368.
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Target is dropping prices ahead of the holidays.
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The company announcing reduced costs on 3,000.
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Food, beverage, and essential items starting this month.
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Target is also bringing back its Thanksgiving.
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Meal at its lowest price ever. The deal gives customers a complete dinner with all your holiday favorites for less.
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Than $5 per person. All right, Blake, thoughts?
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So I don't want to overreact to a specific target. It's good, I'm glad they're doing it. But it's one store. I think I'm more optimistic about seeing the fall in rental prices, which some people are saying, oh, that might be a concern too. And you know, people have their leveraged, you know, rental unit, whatever. But the point is, is like what if people complain, they've complained, prices are high. So you want to look at the high level things. What do they spend the most on? The biggest expense for the vast majority of people is their housing. And right now the cost to get a rental in the United States is going down everywhere in the country. In the long run, people will feel that the drop is actually not a lot. But you know, we also have inflation. So if you're holding even, if the price of housing is holding even and inflation is going up a few percent a year, that's effectively like a 3% cut in the cost of housing. And people have seen it only go up for years and years on end, especially since COVID And I think we're seeing where once you stopped the endless flood of demand into the country, things are getting better, things are getting more affordable.
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Yeah, yeah, I agree with you, Blake. I'm actually more interested in seeing rents drop, but then also how many homes we're building, interest rates dropping. The biggest win for the economy and for young people in general is just deportations. Two million plus deportations, self deportations. This has a direct impact on costs, going down on rent, going down on affordability, just in general in the United States, but then also as a young couple, there's something about buying a house, being able to walk around your neighborhood safely with the, you know, back in your psyche, knowing that there's less illegals now, there's less criminals in this country now. But then also back to just Antifa. I want to really praise Harmeet Dhillon and also the FBI who put out the website for tips. At the same time as we're deporting all these illegals and criminals in our country, we want to find the active criminals that are part of Antifa. And we're going to keep talking about that later in the show, but we want justice for that. And the administration is on point on multiple fronts with housing deportations.
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Well, think about it from this perspective. About a year ago, our FBI was targeting us Turning Point USA was getting spied on. And now the FBI is putting out tip lines to find antifa thugs that were attacking, assaulting and trying to disrupt our event in UC Berkeley. Yeah.
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And how fast they they came after the January Sixers. We're going to come after the real antifa criminals fast. We're going to find each and every one of you with geo tracking. If you spit on our attendees, if you attacked our attendees, like this is disgusting stuff that happened two months after Charlie's assassination at our event at Berkeley. This is, we're not going to stand for it. We're very upset and we want to see accountability and justice.
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You know, Blake, just real quick, actually Danny on our team makes a good point that according to the polls, you know, you're right, rent is probably a larger bucket of cost for the average person. But from a pure polling standpoint, 378, you show this, it's bipartisan, that the number one issue for most people is inflation, cost of living, and that is cost of goods, groceries, gas, those sorts of things tend to leave potentially a bigger emotional impact. So for what it's worth, right now in Ukraine, elderly Jews are trapped in unbearable poverty. Galena is a 96 year old holocaust survivor who has spent her entire life in the same village. She's sick, alone and facing another bitterly cold winter. Today, like every day, she must decide whether to spend what little money she has on food, medication or heating. No one should have to live like this. But for Galena and so many others, this is the harsh reality. Through the International fellowship of Christians and Jews and your generous donation, you can bring hope to those in need. Your gift of just $25 will help provide a food box packed full of life saving essentials that will help feed Alina and so many like her. Visit urgentifcj.org that's one word. Urgentifcj.org or call 866338 IFCJ. That's 866-338-4325. I'm very excited about the next guest that we're going to have on the show here and that is Andy Ngo. He's a reporter for the Post Millennial. He's also the author of the book Inside Antifa's Radical Plan to Destroy Democracy. And you can also check out his writings at no Comment, which I think is great. But it's ngocomment.com it's his substack ngocomment.com Andy Ngo, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's good to see you my friend.
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Thank you so much for having me on.
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It's been a while. I haven't seen you for many moons now, Andy, but it's great to see you and great to have you and you've been doing tremendous work covering. I mean, you've always done tremendous work covering Antifa. You've been one of the most fearless journalists about this. And you have a new piece where you're talking about this huge development where Secretary of State Marco Rubio and the Trump administration have designated them as a foreign terrorist organization. And you have a great write up on the Post Millennial about this. Explain to our audience that might be a little unsure of why this is important versus the previous executive order that designated a domestic terror group.
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Thank you for having me on. So when I spoke at the White House Roundtable on antifa, one of the things that I suggested to the President and his cabinet that they could do is to look at the international networks and organizations within Antifa and to designate the applicable ones as FTOs, Foreign Terrorists Organizations. And why that's so important is because unlike the categorization of domestic terrorism, there's actually legislation in a legal category of a foreign terrorist organization. And the announcement from Secretary Rubio With Antifa, OST and three other European based Antifa groups and networks being declared FTOs, these are now on the same category as ISIS, as Al Qaeda and other proscribed terrorist groups that your listeners and viewers may have heard of. This is very different than when people in the administration talking about antifa being domestic terrorists. And the key difference is that there's actually no legal category in the US for domestic terror. Terrorism in terms of like a group cannot be declared that way and then be banned. So the executive order describes antifa as such, but it's not like a law that would ban providing support for antifa domestically or to have membership in a violent group that's within the antifa network. And that's because of First Amendment protections. I'm speaking to you from London now and in my travels in the UK and Europe, when I speak to liberals or leftists, they say, well, how come the US hasn't banned the KKK or like neo Nazi groups? And the reason is the First Amendment has been interpreted through the courts to provide very wide protections for associations. But that doesn't mean that the executive orders and what the administration now is doing domestically doesn't matter. There's been very importantly at the federal level the DOJ was able to get two indictments against alleged members of an antifa cell in North Texas indicted on providing material support to terrorism. You see. So like, that's where that focus that the administration has on anti fund terrorism matters rather than the label of domestic terrorists. But going back to fto. And it's the first time in US History that the US Government has declared any antifa associated group as being officially terrorist.
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So, yeah, and you write in the post Millennial, you said the FTO label is not symbolic. It's a legal tool under US Law, enabling sanctions against individuals associated with the group's asset freezes, travel bans, and criminal penalties for membership or providing material support. In short, it's now a federal crime to belong to or the four violent antifa anarchist groups that were labeled, and there's some in Greece and Italy, in Germany that you, that you outline in there. Now, I want to bring our attention back domestically though, Andy, because at this UC Berkeley event, I noticed that there, at least from the videos I saw, there wasn't many of these antifa thugs wearing Black Bloc. Right. It is intentionally decentralized. It is intentionally without hierarchy, at least on a spreadsheet in an org chart. Right. So what is the way that these groups are organized domestically and they're gonna shift their tactics as the government attempts to crack down on them? Where do you see this going? And what can you just explain to us about the hierarchy question?
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So, for the last five years, within the organized militant antifa American groups such as Rose City Antifa and other groups that are within the Torch antifa network in cities like New York, Asheville, Philadelphia, they've moved more underground. You'll see that they have been posting a lot less on social media. When they have had a presence at Direct Actions, they no longer show the logos and symbols of their particular organization. And I think that's because they've seen in some jurisdictions there's been ongoing domestic terrorism investigations. Like in the state of Georgia, where 61 people were indicted on domestic terrorism charges. There was a cell in San Diego county where 12 members of SoCal Antifa were convicted either at trial or through plea deals. So they're trying to go underground and bunker down until there's a Democrat administration where they can come out. But whether or not they're underground, it doesn't mean they don't exist and they don't organize. And a lot of the terrorism that antifa does involves people who are actually not going to their meetings or have not been through their particular cell vetting process. And that's the decentralized nature of a lot of terrorist groups actually internationally as well, in that they put out the ideology online or there are certain social media accounts that put out the propaganda. And the goal is to get fellow travelers, sympathizers, or ideologues to go and do something, just show up, show up and commit violence. And I think that was seen in some part at what happened at UC Berkeley. This is their playbook. They call the targets fascists and Nazis and use inflammatory rhetoric and lies and get a mob to show up and create an environment where people, their comrades are encouraged to commit assaults or intimidate or harass or to rob their particular targets. And going back to the four groups that have been declared FTOs, I think it's important to talk about what they have done in Europe. These groups have not been proscribed because of ideology. And if people read my article piece or they look at what the State Department put out, One of the groups is Antifa ost, which translates to Antifa east in their Germany based antifa group where their method of attack is to mob beat their targets with batons and hammers. And it goes specifically for breaking bones, smashing skulls open. Some of their, some of their members have been convicted of aggravated assault and attempted murder. Some of the other groups that were declared FTPs based in Italy and in Greece have been involved in bombings in shootings, shootings of CEOs and bombings of police stations. So these are terrorist groups and yet we still see some leftists coming out, unsurprisingly terrible, to defend Antifa in the wake of this announcement from the State Department.
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Yeah. Looking at the FBI's definition for terrorism, it's the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce the government, civilian population, or any segment thereof in furtherance of political or social objectives. So there, if it's the definition of terrorism, that's exactly what we saw at UC Berkeley. Charlie used to always say that people would hide their face when they secretly know that what they're doing is wrong. And so these people know that what they're doing is wrong. They secretly know that this is terrorism. But my question to you, Andy, is how are these people communicating with each other? They have a tendency to show up in mass, mass numbers. Who's secretly funding this stuff? How are they all getting funded? I just don't feel like we always get the answers to this. I'd love any insight that you have on that.
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So the communications amongst the cells is primarily done through signal. And we can know that by looking at what's come out at trials and in criminal indictments going back to the Texas terror attack on the ice facility in Alvarado on the 4th of July, they were able to get into the signal communications of the members of this North Texas antifa cell and each one had aliases. And in the SoCal Antifa case in San Diego last year, when that went to trial, the evidence came out. Signal was also used. That is primarily the mode of communication. They use burner phones, aliases obviously, and then they create ad hoc group chats for different purposes on signal. Regarding the funding, there's always a nexus of registered nonprofits. And Azra Nomani has a good piece that came out two days ago on Fox News about one of the nonprofits that was involved in, in organizing the UC Berkeley direct action. But a lot of the funding is also through essentially what is just crowdfunding. The extreme far left are great at crowdfunding. They create GoFundMe, they have cash app handles, Venmo handles, PayPal even, and those types. So a lot of it is done in places that law enforcement can be can track. And in my reporting and what I hope that the FBI starts paying attention to now that they have a directive from the executive that antifa are domestic terrorists is to look into the sources of funding. We're not talking about dark money in crypto and things like that, although that may be part of it. For the most part, it's through people organizing these campaigns and sharing the links. You, you and your listeners and viewers are familiar with those huge fundraisers to raise bail money for buying suspects.
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I wish we had you for more time, but that's Andy. No reporter for the Post, millennial author of Unmasked. And you can check him out at his substack. No comment. NGO Comet. Thank you, Andy. No. So good to see you.
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Thank you.
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Thanksgiving holds so many memories, and I'm sure it's the same for you. Right now there's a girl finding out she's pregnant. In the next couple of weeks, she's going to make a decision. And whatever decision she makes will become her memory of this Thanksgiving for the rest of her life. What will she be thankful for a year from now? You. She'll be thankful that you introduced her to her baby by providing a free ultrasound. And she'll be thankful that she chose life. As she prepares for her baby's first Thanksgiving, take a stand for life by providing an ultrasound with preborn. When a young woman sees her baby on the ultrasound and hears her baby's heartbeat, she is twice as likely to choose life. Just $140 provides five ultrasounds that can save five babies. $280 saves 10 babies. A gift of 15,000 provides an ultrasound machine that can save thousands of babies for years to come. Call 833-850-2229 or click on the preborn banner at charliekirk.com today I'm going to play a piece from Charlie and actually There's. I see two, two numbers here. It's the video CK on why Antifa. Why he considers Antifa terrorists, says 377.
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Why do you call the protesters outside terrorists outside of say one broken window?
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Well, it's more than one broken window. Assaulting cops, spray painting, the death threats that they throw at me, the violent intimidation.
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But that's not. Don't you think it's bigoted to call.
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All protesters who are outside as terrorists?
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Why is it bigoted? They're mostly white liberals without jobs.
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You're calling all protesters terrorists?
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I'm calling antifa out there that are anonymizing their identity, sending death threats to my family, smashing windows and spray painting the campus the entire week leading up to this terrorist. Yes, I absolutely stand by that. A lot of them are just college.
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Students who don't agree with the point.
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Of view that you're propagating.
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Maybe they should have come to the front of the line and asked a question like you and not acted like somebody in a third in a third world country where they settle their differences with gang violence.
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Blake, feel free.
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He was just so great. And it just, it disgusts me that these parasites are just like it disgusts me that these parasites in Antifa are basically free in any blue city to roam around and terrorize people. And it feels trite. And yet the truth is they're basically a modern KKK in the truest sense. Look up what the original KKK did. They were basically a menacing group. They would go around, they would intimidate people, terrorize them. We have a bill, we have the Ku Klux Klan act. And what it's designed to do is, is it's designed to go after groups that intimidate people who want to vote, who want to use their freedom of speech and instead like we had it used against. I think they used it against frickin Douglas Mackie because he made a meme that Hillary Clinton didn't like. Why don't we use it against antifa? They're a terrorist group to suppress freedom of speech. They should be treated that way.
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Well said. Yeah. I want to get to a piece of news here, Blake and Mikey, where we talked about Epstein yesterday and it's been this really beautiful thing to watch because there was an allegation that Jeffrey Epstein said he spent Thanksgiving with President Trump in 2017, which, by the way, I think he was kicked out of Mar a Lago in 2007, declared a child predator in 2009. And yet Bill Clinton and all these types kept hanging out with him. Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, all these types of Larry Summers. Apparently there's a bunch of people that still hung out with him. As far as we know, Trump was not one of them. Okay. But there's been volley after volley trying to tie President Trump to Jeffrey Epstein. And this House Oversight, Democrat House Oversight Committee, they leaked these emails trying to do it. Now they're deleting them with. Which is just so rich. So put up image 366. This was from the Democrats, literally the X account. The Democrats says new documents show Donald Trump spent Thanksgiving with Jeffrey Epstein in 2017. At the time, Trump was already President Epstein, already a convicted sex offender. Well, they deleted that. And it's not just the Democrats handle. It's CNN is backtracking as well. Play cut three, 357. And we do want to be clear, the President Trump did not receive or send any of the messages which largely predated his time as president. He's not been accused of any criminal wrongdoing in connection with Epstein or Maxwell. Oh, okay, so that is legalese, by the way. You know, somebody from corporate was like, please say the following and read this verbatim.
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This is so great. And then. And then you have people going back and finding Melania Trump's tweet where they were at Thanksgiving.
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We have this put up 3, 384. So, yeah, this is so good. Yeah. So this is President Trump, Melania says, thrilled to spend part of our Thanksgiving with a local Coast Guard station in Florida. Thank you all. Thank you to all the members of the military who keep us safe. Happy Thanksgiving 2017. And here you got Jeffrey Epstein, a known liar, a convicted liar, saying, oh, yeah, don't worry, I spent Thanksgiving with Trump. Go ahead.
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Well, it just. It blows my mind. I don't even think he really said it.
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They.
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If you look at the exchange, it's just like, where are you? He says a place, and he's like, who else is there? And he kind of rattles off some names. And so it's sort of like, bigger picture. Other people are there, but it's also just. The entire thing is so stupid to go through your head that as President of the United States, Donald Trump would be, like, able to go anywhere in the United States on a holiday like Thanksgiving where his every movement is Very closely tracked. Everyone knows where he is. There's all these rituals that the President does on Thanksgiving. And then he would secretly hang out with Jeffrey Epstein. There's a word I get in trouble when I use on this show. It's really stupid. It's really stupid.
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I just think it's amazing that time after time after time. So, I mean, let's track the provenance of this, of this whole debate that we're having. So Joe Biden was president for four years. We didn't hear a peep about Jeffrey Epstein. President Trump becomes president, and the base of the Republican Party starts getting very interested in trying to expose a child predator. Yeah. And, you know, there's some back and forth. Let's just say there's a little bit of a row on the right when it comes to what to do with these docs. And the base wanting more. It's only then that the Democrats are like, hmm, maybe we can hop on here. We're gonna get involved in this. So then James Comer, a Republican, subpoenas the Epstein estate to get these emails. They come during a government shutdown. They don't coordinate a leak or anything like that or a release of it. They leak three very suspicious, highly selective emails out of a trove of 20,000, and every single one of them has basically been debunked, ridiculed, and they have had egg on their face completely as a result of this, including the fact that they redacted the name of Virginia Guthrey, who testified under oath that President Trump did nothing wrong and then had. And by the way, we played a clip yesterday of a woman talking about that Virginia Guthrey wanted President Trump to be elected because of the transparency with the Jeffrey Epstein case. And that was actually her biographer. Apparently it was a representative for her. So this whole thing has blown up in their face. They were trying to distract from the shutdown, which they got nothing except throwing the country into chaos. And now they have egg on their face.
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E
And this is like their fifth time around the Epstein. It's like the fifth time that it's amounted to nothing, but they just kind of bring it up again.
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C
They're gluttons for punishment.
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E
Yeah, exactly.
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C
They got nothing.
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E
Nothing new under the.
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C
Blake, take us home. 20 seconds.
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D
It's just the whole thing has become this. It's like a parody unto itself. Because I actually feel bad. People have pointed out in the emails, we should pause, we should dial back, because we're laughing here. But we should remember this is a bad guy who hurt a lot of people. And in D.C. there's just a lot of people who've decided it only matters in the sense of how they can hurt one specific guy.
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C
Well said.
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D
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E
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C
Com.