Arizona's Next Governor Remembers Charlie

Summary

The Charlie Kirk Show

Episode: Arizona's Next Governor Remembers Charlie

Date: October 8, 2025
Host: Charlie Kirk (in segments & promotionals), Andrew (guest host/panel leader), with guests Andy Biggs (Congressman and AZ gubernatorial candidate), Cliff Maloney, Blake Neff, and others

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Overview

This episode centers on the Arizona gubernatorial campaign of Rep. Andy Biggs, reflecting on Charlie Kirk’s support and legacy, and examining the strategies driving conservative victories at both state and national levels. The panel explores Arizona’s political landscape, core policy issues, grassroots activism, and the deeper cultural impact of Charlie Kirk's life and activism. The show also discusses the extension of Turning Point strategy into new battlegrounds, notably the New Jersey governor’s race, illustrating the importance of ground game and voter outreach.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Andy Biggs’ Gubernatorial Campaign

• Campaign Status and Momentum

  • Biggs reports record-breaking fundraising and enthusiasm at campaign events, citing a 350-person crowd a year ahead of the election (02:27).
  • Polling shows Biggs with a strong lead: up 24% in a head-to-head, and 22% on a three-person primary ballot (03:03).

• Biggs’ Platform & Policy Vision

  • Public Safety:
    • AZ Department of Public Safety has 400–500 vacancies impacting frontline law enforcement (05:41).
    • “We should be the safest state in the country. And why is that? Because you have to follow the rule of law. If you have the rule of law, you have freedom.” — Andy Biggs (05:41)
  • Economic Competitiveness:
    • Arizona fell from 4th to 47th in job creation nationally; plans to eliminate state income tax and streamline regulations to attract business (06:26).
    • “We’re going to eliminate income tax.” — Andy Biggs (06:27)
  • Border Security & Immigration:
    • Persistent issues with human trafficking corridors, smuggling in Yuma and San Luis (06:51).
    • Vows to reinstate the Border Security Task Force—"If you’re here illegally, you’re not entitled [to state social benefits].” (13:55)
  • Water Management & Energy:
    • Critical of current governor’s water and energy policies, argues for natural gas and nuclear over solar and wind (06:58, 13:10).
    • “This reliance on solar and wind... hard to distribute. We’re going to replace that with natural gas... and the new nuclear subcompact units.” — Andy Biggs (06:58)
  • Legislative Strategy:
    • Plans for legislative action from day one to quickly pass priorities, especially on issues vetoed by Democratic Governor Hobbs (07:56).

2. Endorsements & Charlie Kirk’s Legacy

• Impact of Endorsements:

  • Trump and Turning Point’s endorsements are “critical”; Charlie Kirk’s blueprint for the conservative movement is being closely followed (04:14, 03:03).
  • “Charlie was... a forefront. He was a stud. I mean, he was a good example to even an old guy like me. So we loved him.” — Andy Biggs (15:42)

• Personal Reflections:

  • The panel openly mourns Kirk’s passing, sharing stories that highlight his service-oriented outlook (“How can I help someone today?”) and cultural impact (16:25–16:53).
  • “Everyone in this room was older than Charlie, but all of us looked up to him. All of us admired him, but he was always... such a giver.” — Blake Neff (16:25)

3. Voter Engagement & Ground Game

• Arizona as a Template:
  • Turning Point’s strategy turned out 315,000 new or low-propensity voters in Arizona, flipping the state for Trump by 160,000 votes (21:59).
  • “The personal contact you get when you’re at the door is the most influential... We saw what it did in Arizona.” — Andy Biggs (21:35)
• Nationalization to New Jersey:
  • Cliff Maloney describes expanding the "PA Chase" to New Jersey (NJ Chase), targeting 500,000 door knocks to boost Jack Cittarelli’s gubernatorial bid (20:02).
  • Internal Democrat polling shows the NJ race within three points; growing GOP registration in battlegrounds like Nevada boosts confidence (25:26–27:55).
  • “When we are actually out there not harvesting, but we’re chasing and doing that better, we’re going to win because they’ve been doing it, but they have a crappy message.” — Andy Biggs (26:12)

4. Audience Q&A: Policy & Local Concerns

• Gas Prices:
  • Arizona’s lack of refineries forces reliance on imported gas; infrastructure delays and environmental requirements deter local refinery investment (12:08).
• Eliminating Income Tax:
  • To offset lost revenue, Biggs cites extraction fees and economic stimulation, paired with anti-fraud spending cuts (32:18).
• Windmills & Energy:
  • Biggs opposes wind projects in Northern AZ due to environmental concerns, advocating fossil fuels and nuclear instead (33:10).
• Election Integrity:
  • Emphasizes recent local wins—Maricopa County has a new, pro-integrity recorder cleaning up voter rolls; “Too big to rig” became a mantra (34:12).
• Banning Sharia Law:
  • Biggs is drafting federal legislation to ban Sharia law, referencing American communities where it has posed a challenge (35:23, 36:12).

5. Calls to Action

• How to Support Biggs’ Campaign:
  • Sign petitions and donate at bigsforarizona.com. Over 10,000 petition signers, goal is 26,000 (31:05).
• Volunteerism:
  • Emphasis on amplifying campaign messages on social media, grassroots engagement, and fundraising (37:07).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Charlie’s Influence & Faith:
  • “I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life. And I encourage you to do the same. Here I am, Lord. Use me.” — Charlie Kirk (00:03)
• On the Campaign’s Uniqueness:
  • “The last things that Charlie wanted or the last visions that he was casting... those are even more dear to us... we’re behind you 100%, 1000%.” — Andrew (03:03)
• On Arizona’s Policy Decline:
  • “We’ve gone from being number four in job creation... to being number 47.” — Andy Biggs (05:41)
• On Grassroots Power:
  • “You can do TV ads... most influential is one on one contact.” — Andy Biggs (21:35)
• On Carrying Out Kirk’s Mission:
  • “This is about continuing the work as Charlie would want us to do.” — Cliff Maloney (20:02)
• On Election Integrity:
  • “President Trump just said, too big to rig. Turning Point got out enough voters that we were too big to rig.” — Andy Biggs (34:12)
• On Rapid Legislative Action:
  • “I know how to do it. And that’s why so many legislators... are excited about my candidacy.” — Andy Biggs (37:07)
• On Energy Policy:
  • “Let’s get back to clean coal, natural gas and nuclear. That’s where we need to be.” — Andy Biggs (33:10)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Segment Description | |-----------|------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:27 | Andy Biggs gives campaign update and early election momentum | | 04:14 | Importance of endorsements (Trump, Charlie Kirk, Turning Point) | | 06:26 | Policy discussion: income tax elimination, state competitiveness | | 06:51 | Border security, water/energy mismanagement | | 12:08 | Q&A: Gas prices and Arizona’s energy supply issues | | 15:03 | Reflections on Charlie Kirk’s friendship and impact | | 21:35 | Ground game and turnout as critical to conservative wins | | 25:26 | New Jersey governor’s race and national polling implications | | 34:12 | Maricopa County election integrity and “too big to rig” | | 37:07 | Final pitch: legislative priorities and calls to action |

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Conclusion

This episode highlights the synergistic relationship between grassroots activism, policy clarity, and movement leadership—embodied by both Andy Biggs’ gubernatorial campaign and Charlie Kirk’s enduring blueprint. With emphasis on border security, pro-growth economics, and election integrity, the conversation offers a detailed playbook for conservative campaigning and movement-building, while paying tribute to the personal and strategic legacy of Charlie Kirk. Listeners are called to mobilize—on the ground and online—to secure Arizona’s future and spread successful tactics nationwide.

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For more details or to get involved:

• Andy Biggs’ campaign: bigsforarizona.com
• Charlie Kirk’s platform: charliekirk.com
• NJ Chase: njchase.org

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Transcript

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Andrew]

All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Very excited about this. We've been trying to arrange this for a couple days, but he's a busy man, which is exactly how he should be. That's Andy Biggs. Representative Andy Biggs and future governor of the state of Arizona. So honored to have you here. There was probably no political mission, at least in the near term, that Charlie was more passionate about than helping get you elected as the next governor of Arizona. So it's great to have you here.

[Andy Biggs]

Thanks, Andrew.

[Cliff Maloney]

Good.

[Andy Biggs]

Great to be with you.

[Andrew]

Yeah. And as you said before we got on air, no pressure. You were. Charlie's like, probably. I mean, there was a few finals, like Nate Morris in Kentucky. And your. I mean, but this was going to be a.

[Blake Neff]

Was the big one because he was like, I want the desert Florida.

[Andrew]

He wanted the floridification of Arizona, and he just had complete trust in your credentials as a conservative. You love the people of this state, and he knew you were going to put in the work. And that's why I love. I was. I was joking. I was like, so it was actually harder to book this than it was like Tucker Carlson, you know, to get on the show just in the last couple of days, because you were out on the road, you were up north, and you were. You had all these events scheduled. So tell us, how's the campaign going and how are you feeling about things?

[Andy Biggs]

Well, the campaign's going great. Polling's good. We're raising money, solid money, more than I've ever raised in my time in office. And also, you know, as we're all over the state, because Andrew, we are getting all over the state, the momentum is really strong. We really feel it and sense it. And people come out and think about this. We're a year before the election and last week one of our crowds had over probably about 350 people at it for one event. And so this type of thing this far in advance is really kind of unusual, particularly in this state.

[Andrew]

Well, I like to think that Charlie and the energy that Charlie was putting into this is contributing because I think, you know, there is a sense that, you know, we even feel it from the team, the last things that Charlie wanted or the last visions that he was casting. And by the way, he's left certain blueprints that take us all the way through 2030 that we're going to be following that those are even more dear to us. And so I think we speak for all of this show, this audience for Turning Point Action. We say that we're behind you 100%, 1000% and anything that you need that we can do, we're excited to help. Here's what I will say. This is some good news if you throw up. Image 297, this is breaking on the one on one matchup. You are up 24% with 14 undecided. This is for the primary on a three person ballot, you're up it looks what, 22%. That's, I mean, those are solid margins. Congressman, future governor, what is behind this? What are you hearing from people on the ground that is getting them so animated this early on?

[Andy Biggs]

Well, I think there's several things and I'd be remiss if I didn't mention President Trump's endorsement.

[Andrew]

Yes, of course.

[Andy Biggs]

And Charlie's endorsement and Turning Point Action's endorsement. Those endorsements are really critical. But also I'd like to think in part that people know that I have a voting background. You can see how I voted. You can see how I've led the state when I was in the state and how I've worked in Congress. And so what we've, what we have found is even before, and I told this to President Trump one time, I said, before he endorsed me, he said, Mr. President, I'm already up 40%, you know, so don't knock me down with that endorsement. But anyway, we had a, he gave me that endorsement and that's pretty solid. So the, the type of people who support me and back me, that's just as, that's just as important as it could possibly be.

[Andrew]

So, I mean, listen, you obviously don't have to convince me, but for those listening that are like, you know, maybe they're wondering who they're going to support. What, what is your platform? What, what are you planning on doing for the state of Arizona? What's your vision?

[Andy Biggs]

So, so we do have a vision. So the first thing is public safety. So I literally was just talking to a radio show down in Tucson and they were talking about the crime. Well, well, that's a problem in Tucson that the state's going to probably have to intervene in. So we, we should be the safest state we have. And I don't want I over explain, Andrew.

[Andrew]

I love it. No, I mean, get wonky if you have to. I'll pull you out. We'll make it interesting.

[Cliff Maloney]

Okay.

[Andy Biggs]

All right. So we have over just about 4 to 500 vacancies in Arizona's Department of Public Safety right now. That's your troopers on the street and everything like that. That means that the places, counties that don't have enough sheriffs deputies, they're having to fill in and it just causes this downstream effect, which is not good. So we should be the safest state in the country. And why is that? Because you have to follow the rule of law. If you have the rule of law, you have freedom. And that's the goal, is to have freedom in this state. Second thing is we've gone from being number four in job creation in the state to being number 47. And so we've really fallen off the map. And so you have to make sure we're competing with states that are eliminating things like income tax and that are streamlining their rate.

[Andrew]

What's your plan there?

[Andy Biggs]

Well, we're going to eliminate income tax.

[Andrew]

I would vote yes on that.

[Andy Biggs]

Yeah. And then we're going to streamline the regulations, which is what competing against states that are doing that. So a lot of jobs that used to come to Arizona, they're flying over. Right. So we've got to fix that then. We still have a border problem. We have the number one human drug trafficking corridor in the country that's not good for families, individuals. So we have to put a stop to that.

[Andrew]

Is that still top of mind with voters, given the crackdown on the border that President Trump has accomplished?

[Andy Biggs]

It is. They're grateful for the border being secure mostly. But we still have these corridors. So we have places like in Yuma. I was just in Yuma the other day in San Luis and they were talking about the smuggling. And I'll Be on a panel today about human trafficking. It's a real issue for the state. And Andrew, water's a big deal. We actually have a lot of water in this state. It's just totally mismanaged by this particular governor. She's mismanaged it so much that she's killing the American dream. The American dream used to be, I want to own a home, build a family. If you do own a home, you see family formation come. Well, she's killing it because there are places you cannot build a home. Single family home in Arizona today because of her water policies. So we have to fix that. Power policies. This reliance on solar and wind, which is unreliable, has to be subsidized, hard to distribute. We're going to replace that with natural gas. We're going to make sure that we're getting the new, the new nuclear subcompact units coming in. There are things we're going to do and we're going to turn the whole state around. And that's just on the policy side. The other aspect is I know how to do it on the procedure side. So I'll get elected in November of 26, Andrew. That's a Tuesday. And on Wednesday you'll see a new speaker and a new new Senate president. We'll have the Republican majority and by that evening I'll be sitting down with them with the leadership, talking about how we're going to introduce and pass those bills that Governor Hobbs vetoed. We're talking about 300 vetoes right now. Things like the election integrity law. Yeah, just all of this.

[Andrew]

Well, election integrity is huge. And I know that's a really important issue for the base here, especially in Arizona. But. But your background is. I think one of the things that people don't give you enough credit for or not aware enough of your background is how well you understand state level politics, Right? Yeah. You've been in Congress at the federal level for a long time, but that's your background. You know how to work the levers of power here in the state.

[Andy Biggs]

Yeah, I served in legislature for a good number of years. I was the Senate president when I left to run for Congress. Before that, I was the Senate majority leader. I actually wrote the state budget for a good number of years. So I know how it works. I know how the leverage points are. I worked with two different governors, so I know how the executive branch is. So of course we're going to doge it. I mean, having seen the budgeting process.

[Andrew]

We love Doge. Yeah, we love Doge.

[Andy Biggs]

Yeah, we're going to doge.

[Andrew]

Oh, I love that. I bet you could find a lot of. I mean, and by the way, when you cut income tax down to eliminate it, there is other ways to make revenue that make more sense and that incentivize people in the right ways. But then you combat that, you combine that rather with important spending cuts and getting rid of waste, fraud and abuse. Oftentimes you come into a very beautiful middle ground. I guess that's your vision.

[Andy Biggs]

Yeah, that's right. You move to the middle ground. But the thing that's beautiful about that is you actually stimulate the economy more, which increases the velocity of movement of money. And when you do that, it means that you're going to actually increase your revenue. I mean, the history is always you increase your revenue and you reduce taxes.

[Andrew]

I totally agree. I mean, this is why you've seen all the job growth. Go to the sun belt in the red states. And the sun belt, I mean, they're leaving California, but the goal here in Arizona needs to be don't fly over and go to Texas or go to Florida. You can stop right here because we're gonna have the most pro business state in the country.

[Lane Schoenberger]

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[Andrew]

Blake Neff we have emails for the great news people.

[Blake Neff]

Send in questions for the guests.

[Andrew]

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[Blake Neff]

Business owner here in Arizona, and I won't say his business, just in case you'd rather we don't. But I think they'd be very much on our side. He says, please ask Representative Biggs about gas pricing in Arizona. The people I speak with say this is a big issue.

[Andy Biggs]

It is a massive issue. So we don't have any refineries in Arizona, so we have to import all of our gas. The pipeline coming from the east, which comes through El Paso and on up, first drop is of course going to be Tucson, which is why Tucson always is cheaper than us. And it comes on up. It's running at capacity right now. And another pipeline is going to be built to expand that. We have stuff coming from California. One pipeline from California. California is trying to eliminate its refineries, which is driving up artificial scarcity for us. So they've killed two refineries. They're actually trying to sell Valero finery, which is. Or force a sale of Valero refinery, which is their biggest and good chance that it's going to be purchased by a Canadian company. And if it does, I've talked to, to their minister up there and they're anxious to sell oil and gas to Arizona. But that's our problem, is we're importing it. If we could build a refinery, we'd be in good shape. There's been attempts, but everybody is scared to death because it takes billions of dollars and about 10 years or so to build. And they're afraid that if they start and invest all this, then all of a sudden another administration comes in and changes the environmental requirements and next thing you know, they can't make. Make it financially work anymore. So that's why we don't have refineries here. If we can get a refinery, we're going to be in better shape.

[Andrew]

Great. There's another one I see from Jax for him.

[Blake Neff]

Oh, I just thought it was. Amusingly, he said, tell Biggs to reduce foreign aid cash for the immigration expense being borne by US consumers and taxpayers. I think mercifully that's not an Arizona thing, though of course, it is a congressional thing.

[Andrew]

But there are things you can do at the state level, potentially.

[Andy Biggs]

Yeah, so. So at the federal level, we. I support that. And we've actually got a lot of withdrawal of funding in that way. We need to do more. That's what the big fight is over the shutdown right now, as a matter of fact. But at the state level, this governor eliminated the Border Security Task Force and took down barriers when she first came in. And we're going to make sure we've got barriers there and that the Border Security Task Force is reinstituted. There's a way to stop and slow that down. The other thing is, we're going to doge the Medicaid and welfare rules. And if you're here illegally, you're not entitled.

[Blake Neff]

It really is such a. It's an infuriating, diseased mindset to. I'm going to rip down barriers at the border with Mexico. What is the motivation for this other than I just really want people to illegally come here if at all possible.

[Andrew]

Charlie always said that borders are a political delineation where bad ideas begin and good ideas begin or bad ideas end and good ideas begin. And I think, no disrespect to our neighbors, but we like our ideas, we like our people, and we want to take care of our people first.

[Andy Biggs]

Absolutely right. And Charlie was right on that. Because if you look, we have now we've let in millions of people who have those ideas. They've brought their ideas with them, and they're trying to change our ideas, maybe even inadvertently.

[Andrew]

Right. It's just that you bring your culture with you, and, you know, listen, we like our culture, we like our country, and we want to take care of Americans first. I mean, I think that's. That's the truth. I want to give you at least this last few minutes and talk about your personal relationship with Charlie, because we lost an icon of our culture, a hero. But you lost a friend. We all lost a friend. And I want just. You can make it as personal as you can, as you can do well.

[Andy Biggs]

So I always viewed us as being fortunate because we live in a time when there's been two gigantic cultural and political movements at the same time. You got the MAGA movement that President Trump instituted. Then you had the turning. What I call the turning point, or just the turning movement that Charlie brought in. So Charlie was. You know, he was. I viewed him as really a. A forefront. He was a stud. I mean, he. He was a good example to even an old guy like me. So we loved him. So that's all.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I know. And I mean, it's hard to navigate. Everyone in this room.

[Blake Neff]

Everyone in this room was older than Charlie, but all of us looked up to him. All of us admired him, but he was always. He was such a reciprocator. He was such a giver. You know, I think Trump himself said at the memorial, he always gave more than he asked of anyone in his, you know, in his office. He has that little three line thing. And the first one is, is how can I help somebody today? And that's always what he would want to do. He would want to help you win the election. He would want to help this person.

[Andrew]

And with their faith, whatever. I mean, I spent basically the first week of the show crying in public. So the fact that you get a little teary eyed is it really just speaks to the fact that you're a human being and a good man. And I know how close Charlie and you were. And God bless you, man. And we love you too.

[Andy Biggs]

Thanks, thanks.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Angel Studios Representative]

As I think about Charlie's life and how much of a support he was of angel, it's hard not to feel so grateful for what he did. He supported us in our darkest days and in our brightest hours as a company. Jeff and I and Charlie were doing lunch together. We asked him, he said, are you. Are you at all worried about one of these college campuses? And he just said, with so much peace in his eyes and so much peace in his heart, if that's how God takes me, then that's how I'm supposed to go. I feel like that was a clear message that Charlie's life is a testimony to Jesus Christ, his Lord and savior. And his relationship with him was the most important thing that he would want the world to remember about his legacy. Man, are we grateful to have gotten to be a little connection in the multitude of connections that he made throughout his life because it was so impactful to us. Thank you, Charlie. Love you. We miss you. We're going to continue to drive forward the good news.

[Andrew]

So there's a bunch of questions for Andy that I actually do want to get to. But first, we're going to bring in our friend Cliff Maloney of the renowned the Call. It was the Call, Cliff. And on election night, you were the one as Charlie sat in that chair when we announced that Trump was gonna be the next President of the United States. It was you who were leading us. And as we were all in shocked, stunned silence. So welcome back. I think the last time you were here was actually a person. So it's nice to see you back in your spot on the Zoom.

[Cliff Maloney]

I'm back here. I'm here at headquarters in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. And yeah, I was in this room when we called it in Pennsylvania. And look, I gotta tell you guys, you know, when Charlie asked me to do the show, I never realized at that moment, obviously not just calling you, but Erica coming in, embracing Charlie. You know, I get emotional thinking about it, but it was just, you know, the video that everybody watched hundreds of millions of times. And I'm honored to keep fighting. So glad to be with you guys. And I love didn't know that one of my favorite Congressman Andy Biggs would be on. Better be the next governor. We're going to do everything we can to get that guy elected. I'm here to help.

[Andrew]

That's exactly right. Well, and this is why it's all. It all plays very well together here. So, Cliff, you are. Maybe I'll let you do it, but you've got news in New Jersey. But I love it because it ties into all the things we've done in Pennsylvania, in Wisconsin and in Arizona. So what's the news in New Jersey? Cliff, the floor is yours.

[Cliff Maloney]

Yeah. So happy to announce that we are taking the PA Chase on the road. We have launched the New Jersey Chase, going all in on Jack Citterelli and getting him elected. And look, I'm going to be honest with folks. For a lot of months I hesitated on going public with this. Right. My brand is that we are the Pennsylvania, I would say America first, you know, ground game. Right. We are the phase here at Citizens Alliance. But what happened, you know, not just Charlie getting murdered, but over the last couple months, you know, we've kind of realized like this tactic, that Turning Point and Citizens alliance has really focused on, which is ground game, actually going out harvesting and chasing. Chasing where you can only chase, harvesting where it's legal. And so we're going all in on New Jersey. We've committed to knock 500,000 doors through the New Jersey Chase program. If people want to get [e-mail] they can. But we've got tons of people on the ground. We've got seven to 10 Airbnbs depending on which week it is. We're not close to 300,000 doors so far. I love how the numbers look, but this is about continuing the work as Charlie would want us to do. And that's what the New Jersey chase is all about.

[Andrew]

I love it. So, Andy, I think you would be good to chime in here. How important is it to do the door knocking, to do the person to person to person chasing these low prop voters, especially when you have close states and we see that the, you know, Cliff, you can give us an update on the polling in just a second. But this is a close race and for the first time we have a real chance of taking power in New Jersey.

[Andy Biggs]

Yeah, well, the personal contact you get when you're at the door is the most influential contact you can have in campaigning. It really is. I mean, you can do TV ads and everything. Most influential is one on one contact. And we saw what it did in Arizona. I mean, we turned Turning point, turned out 300,000 plus low propensity voters and new voters. And new voters.

[Andrew]

315,000 low prop and new voters.

[Andy Biggs]

Yeah. And that, that turned the election. I mean, Trump won this state by 160,000 votes, roughly 5%, the biggest margin in a battleground state. That was because of that door to door contact, that encouragement to get out new voters and low propensity voters. That's what's going to do it again this time. But it's going to do it in New Jersey, it sounds like first. And I'm excited to see that.

[Andrew]

Yeah, absolutely. Blake, I don't know if you want to chime in.

[Cliff Maloney]

Oh, no, no, no.

[Andrew]

Okay, so what's the. Give us the timeline, Cliff. Where's the polling at? And why do you like this? Why is it worth putting these kind of resources in? Because we get requests to do this in all 50 states. Just to be clear, people come to us. Can we use your app? Can you guys send out resources to do this? And we want to do it, obviously, we would love to do that because I think there's gains that could be made at the local level, there could be gains at the statewide level. It's not just all about who's the President of the United States. Right. And we want senators, congressmen, we want school board members to be conservative. We want them to be on board. But here's the issue, is that we have limited resources, right? We have limited bodies. We have to pick our battles and be very strategic, which is why we picked Wisconsin, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nevada, and the last one. Because those are races that we could invest these types of resources and actually make a manageable, practical and determinative difference in these states. So why New Jersey, Cliff?

[Cliff Maloney]

Well, first off, I can wear my Eagles hat in half the state, which is pretty nice for a guy that wants to pander and not have to play the political game when it comes to sports. No, but seriously, look, I mean, the polls right now poll came out just recently. 43. 43. It's a dead heat. What really excites me is, and I'm preaching to the choir here, because not only you guys, but everybody that listens to Charlie show, you know, knows the Power of really making sure we compete when it comes to vote by mail. If you compare New Jersey and Pennsylvania, understand this. In Pennsylvania we don't have early voting. We have two ways to vote, either by mail or on election day. In New Jersey, they've got over a week of early voting. And Republicans compete and do very well in early voting. So when we're at the doors, which we're at now, we're not only pushing vote by mail to low props.

[Andy Biggs]

We're.

[Cliff Maloney]

But if they have some objection to vote by mail, guess what, you can plan to vote in the week leading up to the election. And so it gives you an alternative that we don't have in Pennsylvania. And when you run the numbers, Andrew, if we compete in vote by mail and we match the type of turnout that Jack Chitterelli had four years ago, remember Jack was the nominee in 21, so it's not a rematch because Murphy is no longer capable. Term limited out. But Mikey Sherrill is running against Jack Cittarelli. Jack has name ID and four years ago he only lost by roughly three points. And so you're talking about a state where they didn't have much of a door to door effort. They weren't really targeting the vote by mail. That's not a shot at Jack at all. Right. A lot of us weren't doing that in 2020 and 2021 because, you know, it wasn't something that Trump was pushing and I was one of those people vote on election day. But since we've adapted, we see New Jersey as a huge opportunity. It's why we're going all in. I think knocking these 500,000 doors and all the other groups that are helping register people are coalescing. I think this is one to focus on. That's why we've decided to go in and try to win.

[Blake Neff]

Just to add to that, why it's a fun idea. We have a headline from Axios. This is just the other day, Democrats are fretting about New Jersey governor's race. That's one of the best reasons to do it. If they're actually panicking and like laying the groundwork in advance for, you know, who they should blame for this. And it says here that there is private polling that has shown the race within about three points. And this is according to Democrats who saw the results. So Democrats have internal polls that are telling them this is very close, this could go very badly.

[Andrew]

Question to you, Andy. When you see a Democrat poll that's like that, that's within three points. How do you interpret that being on the. If you're the campaign or you're the candidate and you say, well, the Democrats have the Democrats up by three, what is. You say that that's probably accurate. You say it's actually closer than that.

[Andy Biggs]

I typically say it's probably dead heat because they kind of. It's tradition for them to skew sample selection and how they frame the question. If you do that, you have a bias poll. And just getting back to the point on turnout and doing the knocking of the doors. If I can just real quick. The Democrats have done this for many, many years and we are now at their game. And when we're at their game because our message is better, because when we are actually out there not harvesting, but we're chasing and doing that better, we're going to win because they've been doing it, but they have a crappy message. If you do it, when you have a good message, you're going to win. I'm really excited.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I mean, you think about it because like if you're part of a Democrat campaign, you don't want to release an internal poll that shows you down that could demoralize the troops. So I tend to agree with you that it's probably even right. This is probably a dead heat. There's little pieces of information that we can draw from. Throw up 299. This is out of Nevada. Eric Daherty from Twitter posted this. But now there's been a flip in Nevada which bodes well because we've been seeing these registration trends across the country from Pennsylvania, Cliff in Arizona. Certainly Nevada now has flipped to more Regist registered Republicans just barely. But that was a gain of 6,000 in the month of September, net gain of 6,000. So now Republicans are actually have more voter registrations in the state of Nevada. So we're seeing this trend nationwide and that's starting to make states like New Jersey in play. Cliff, what are you seeing?

[Cliff Maloney]

Yeah, I think you're right. And look, I will tell you this, New Jersey is a much, much tougher battle than Pennsylvania was in 2024. Whether you look at the registration numbers, where you look at comparing 2020 to 2024, there are plenty of ways to look at it, but I think the momentum is on our side. And look, I said this from the start. I think Jack is a great candidate. If you spend time with him. He's very personable. I've done a couple events and just he knows how to work the room. He connects, he's authentic. And so I think There's a lot of hope here for Jack, but you also have to count on the Democrats exposing themselves. And that's what's happening in New Jersey. Mikey. Sheryl, I mean, she has had just flaw after flaw, misstep after misstep. And I just think that it's kind of culminating at the right time. And sometimes those things have to happen. I mean, even for us to win the swing states we did in 2024, you have to have certain things happen that are outliers.

[Andrew]

Well, and right.

[Cliff Maloney]

Donald Trump getting shot in the ear. I'm not rooting for that. But at a certain point, like you have little pieces of things that fall in place, and that's how you can kind of build momentum. And I'm seeing it on the ground in Jersey.

[Andrew]

That's great. And. Well, and I do think some of these national trends and these national stories are playing into it as well. You can't discount the Charlie Kirk effect. That's one. But secondly, you have this Jay Jones story in Virginia that has gotta be putting a pall over a lot of the Democrat races, especially across that eastern seaboard. You gotta think that that's having an impact. And obviously we're talking about the story where he's leaking or these text chains are showing that he wanted political violence or at least was fantasizing about it or fetishizing or at the most charitable, like joking about it. You know, it's tough to say exactly what that is. Cliff, where can people get involved?

[Cliff Maloney]

Sure. On xaloney. Appreciate you guys. Andy, great seeing you. Really appreciate it. Blake, Andrew, you guys are the best.

[Andrew]

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[Andrew]

So, Andy, real quick, we're going to get into some questions from the audience they're sending in for you. Just on a local level, how can people get involved with your campaign? If they're here in Arizona or surrounding states, how can they help? I mean, tell us where to go.

[Andy Biggs]

Go to bigsforarizona.com Bigsforarizona.com is that F.

[Andrew]

O R or the F?

[Andy Biggs]

Spell it out. F O R. Got it up on the screen. Yeah, there we go. And that'll do it. You can link to donate. You can. And if you're in Arizona, please sign an electronic petition because those are not challengeable. And that's good. We've got over 10,000 of those.

[Andrew]

We're already.

[Andy Biggs]

We have so many petitions, but our goal is 26,000 for 26.

[Andrew]

So fantastic.

[Andy Biggs]

That's where we're going.

[Andrew]

Really important to get involved. And yeah, donate. I mean, it is on some level, you know, you're in a race both from a messaging standpoint, but you got to get your message out there. You got to saturate the airways. So please get involved. And then you got to just staff. There's so many expenses that go into these campaigns. So please consider doing [e-mail] Blake, do we have any questions?

[Blake Neff]

We have a few. We have someone saying, if Representative Biggs is going to eliminate property taxes, do you say that or was it income tax? Income tax. So they were saying it applies equally, that the way to fill the gap would be to move to consumption taxes. How will we keep the people from being taxed to death when they buy a car or a house? Would that affect free markets and consumption? That's from Glenda.

[Andy Biggs]

Yeah. So the way to think of it is we also have marvelous resources that we can get extraction fees for, and that will help. And so the other aspect to it is you actually free up land so we can build more houses. That will help as well. So there are ways to get at that, and we're ready to get at that. So we're gonna be okay. We will. Plus plus, as Andrew was saying, we're gonna reduce spending in a lot of areas because there's so much fraud. You got one program that the estimate is $6 billion a year in fraud. So there's a lot of ways to clean this up.

[Andrew]

Yeah, we have more emails for him, Questions for Andy.

[Blake Neff]

We have, we have Debbie, who's very upset that windmills are being built in Apache county, where I believe she lives. She's asking, are you aware of this? And she says, they will destroy beautiful Northern Arizona. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

[Andy Biggs]

Yeah, you know, she's exactly right. And they don't do much, and when they run out of their life, it's just this poisonous hole that's there and it just stays there. So that's one of the reasons I'm for. Let's get back to clean coal, natural gas and nuclear. That's, that's where we need to be and that's where I'll be fighting for. But I've also been fighting for at the federal level. I'll just tell you that, that it was the Freedom Caucus and myself working with President Trump. That's why you actually have these higher tariffs and these, these advisories that came out saying unless you're actually in the ground with construction, you cannot get to fan fans. Windmills.

[Andrew]

And they're big fans.

[Andy Biggs]

Yeah, they're big fans. Windmills and solar. So we're fighting it at the federal level, too.

[Andrew]

I have one from Greg. He says, do you know essentially what has changed in AZ elections? Do we have confidence that the same old shenanigans are not going to happen again?

[Andy Biggs]

Yeah. So here's the way to think of it. President Trump just said, too big to rig. Turning Point, got out enough voters that we were too big to rig. You have in Maricopa county, which is the problem county. You have a new county recorder who's running it with good county supervisors. He's trying to clean up the vote. Yeah. Justin Heap. He's trying to clean up the voter rolls. If we can get the voter rolls cleaned up this time, get a good turnout, we should get a good win. And then after we get that win, we're going to fix it at the state legislature so we can codify the Florida ball.

[Andrew]

That was a really big election that I don't think necessarily all people are aware of. Justin Heap at the county level in Maricopa. I mean, in Maricopa, as Maricopa goes, so goes Arizona. I mean, there's, there's. Yeah, there would be math that maybe that wasn't the case, but that's essentially the way the state is. So to have Justin in that place, strong election integrity guy, really big boost for, for the base, for conservatives. Yeah, more.

[Blake Neff]

Oh, that's actually all the questions we have.

[Andrew]

No. So, well, geez, I thought we got.

[Blake Neff]

We have someone asking if we could ban Sharia law at the federal level. I think we'd support.

[Andy Biggs]

But so just so you know, I, my team is drafting a bill to do that very thing. And there's another bill that I've signed on to that just doesn't have enough teeth, in my opinion. That kind of attacks it. Sharia law is inconsistent with Americans constitutional law. So. So we've got to fix that. And yeah, we're working on that at the federal level.

[Blake Neff]

Yeah, we've had that proposal. It's come up a few times since 9 11. And often I would roll my eyes at it. I thought, okay, is this really a big deal? But now you look at, especially in European countries where it's getting to a higher percentage, where you just have, you actually have lawmakers getting elected who say that they want it. Or you see, you know, if a city becomes entirely taken over by Islamic representation, these sort of Sharia assumptions start to worm their way into things. So you actually can't ignore it anymore.

[Andy Biggs]

Dearborn, Michigan. Think of Dearborn, Michigan, which they want to impose Sharia law in Dearborn, Michigan. You got a town in northern Texas, same thing. They're trying to impose Sharia law in those towns, too.

[Andrew]

Yeah, well, and you know, and we've said this before, but there was a couple of things that Charlie really fixated on, you know, right up until the end. And one of them was, you know, Islam and the fact that there were incompatibilities with Western societies, Western civilization. It was a really big call and a big warning to all of us. And he was laser focused on that issue. And so it's, you know, you'd like to think maybe in Arizona that's not as big of a problem. Right. As it is in Dearborn. But we all have to have our eyes on it. And I love that you're leading the charge at a federal level. We've got about a minute left here with you. Final pitch to the audience. What can they do? How do they help? And how are we going to get this done?

[Andy Biggs]

So, yeah, bigs for Arizona.com, please go there. Petitions, amplify your social media. That would be great. Donations are great. But let's just tell you real quick how we're going to fix this. So I told you that we're going to meet, we're going to get these bills in line. But when they get in line, you still have two months to get sworn in. So we're going to get sworn in early in the morning, get those committees with all the bills assigned. So you go day one, day two, day three, first read, second read, third read. By the end of the week, I'll be signing bills like the Election Integrity, the Florida Election Integrity Law, the anti CCP ownership in Arizona. These are the bills that we have to get through quickly. I know how to do it. And that's why so many legislators, current and former, that are excited about my candidacy because they know how we do this and how we're going to get this and make it work.

[Andrew]

Well, God bless you and we know that you not only are the right man for the job, but you know how to do the job already. So you're coming in with just a wealth of experience. Charlie was behind you. We are behind you. Turning Point action is behind you and we're gonna get this done. And you're crushing in the polls, so we like where we're at.

[Andy Biggs]

For more on many of these stories.

[Blake Neff]

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[Andrew]

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[Andy Biggs]

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