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Charlie Kirk
Hey, everybody. Happy Monday. We take your questions only for those of you that are members@members.charliekirk.com that is Members.Charliekirk.com as you guys become a member, you can listen to all of our episodes advertiser free and ask me questions and actually come on the show. We talk about a lot of different things on this program. In addition to Blake doing the Roman history whiz kid stuff, you're gonna love the topics that we cover, everything from DOGE to mass deportations, robotics, AI and more. Email us as always, freedomarliekirk.com and subscribe to our podcast. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go.
Blake
Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
Daisy
Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
Charlie Kirk
I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
Trey
Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
Charlie Kirk
I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point usa. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of the Charlie Kirk Show, a company that specializes in gold IRAs and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble gold investments@noblegoldinvestments.com that is noblegoldinvestments.com it's where I buy all of my gold. Go to noblegoldinvestments.com ask me anything where you can ask questions and come on this show, but only if you are a member. Members.charliekirk.com I also have next to me Mr. Blake. Blake might answer questions from you guys, but more importantly, during the breaks, we're going to test his blind knowledge. Hillsdale College Roman history.
Trey
People wanted it back, Charlie.
Charlie Kirk
They want it by popular demand. And that is something to witness and see. It is awfully entertaining and kind of breathtaking. Okay, Daisy, who do we have first? Daisy does a great job running the member brigade. Trey, thank you for being a member. Where are you from and what is on your mind?
Christian
Yeah.
Trey
How's it going, Charlie?
Charlie Kirk
Good. How are you?
Christian
I'm good. I'm the chapter president for the University of South Carolina.
Charlie Kirk
Oh, yes. Hi again. How are you?
Christian
I'm good. I'm doing good. Chapter's doing great as well. We're actually looking to get at the minimum right now, we're looking at two speakers so far. This semester, so. And I love it. It could be, it could be a third if you come.
Charlie Kirk
I, I don't know if I'll be there this fall, this spring, but you never know when I'll be in Columbia, so. So.
Christian
Yeah, but are you in the air?
Charlie Kirk
Are you feeling the campus culture change that, you know, Gen Z kind of more becoming more and more right wing?
Christian
Yeah, definitely. Definitely. We're getting a lot more. We're getting a lot more. We're seeing a lot more conservatives. There's still, there's still, there's still a couple crowds out there that we're trying to, we're trying to get to come to our meetings, but, you know, it's. Everything's looking good so far, too. I got a ticket as well for the basketball game on March 2nd, if you're in, if, if you're around South Carolina, so.
Charlie Kirk
Well, thank you. I don't know if I will be, but. All right. What's on your mind, man? And thank you for being a Turning Point chapter leader.
Christian
Yeah, absolutely. So I wanted to talk about the, the mass deportations and, like, what we could see with the housing market. So with mass deportations happening around the country, let's just take a second to consider what could happen in the construction industry. So in 2022, the American Immigration Council reported that there were over 23% of, or over 23% of the construction workforce in Texas was comprised of illegal and undocumented immigrants. So obviously this varies state by state, but regardless, we're sure to see a massive change because 23%, that's almost a quarter of the entire construction workforce. So we're going to see a massive change in the construction workforce and the mass deportation. With mass deportations on the rise, so what do you predict the future of the construction market looks like with there going to be a low supply of construction workers? Will we see service and trade workers maybe learn the art of construction? And how will, how do you think the housing market will be affected by this?
Charlie Kirk
So a couple things. First, just some good news on deportations. 37,660 people were deported in the last month. That's a good number. So that it should be higher, but it's good. Let me just kind of make sure I'm going to do this times 12 annualized, that's about 440,000. We probably need to get to about a million a year before we really start to stem the tide of even what Biden did. But that's good. 440,000 is not insignificant. That is Definitely worthy of focus. Long term, I will say Trey, long term. In the housing market and development we are going to see a massive adoption of robotics, replacing human beings for skilled tasks. That is not imminent. But Blake, would you say that's. That's five to 10 years.
Trey
There was a viral video just the other day showing an AI trained robot sorting groceries in like on a typical kitchen counter. And you know it's going to start with only a handful of places are going to do it, but it's going to become more and more and more common.
Charlie Kirk
It's going to be similar to how Internet was kind of like tried in a certain place. It's gonna take over the world. Which actually honestly is more of a reason for restrictionist immigration policy.
Trey
Exactly.
Charlie Kirk
Why do you have to have so many foreigners coming in to do your jobs if robots are going to do those jobs?
Trey
Right. It can make our lives better. It's, you know, it's a choice before us. Don't make our lives worse. Make it better. Just same way. There used to be a million people who had to do washing full time and then we invented the washing machine total. That was on balance a good thing for ordinary people.
Charlie Kirk
I agree. And I think that the more cynical view of mass. Thank you, that's great. B roll. For the mass adoption of robotics and AI, the cynical view is that, well, what will human beings do with their time? I will say first and foremost, if done properly, AI chatbots. What's this one perplexity I have on my computer? If you know how to use it, it can actually make you better at your craft. It can make you sharper, make you faster. It's not even a replacement, it's an accelerant. Now there will be a lot of replacement and displacement, but I would not underestimate human beings ability to use technology to find better and greater uses and purposes. And it needs to benefit the species. Ryan says, look, we used AI for a whole thought crime segment last night for the statues.
Trey
All the statues. Grok you could use it to make. Yeah. Like for example, can AI generated art hurt low end artists? Yes, and I think we should worry about that. But it could also allow a good artist to create even more art at a much greater scale than before.
Charlie Kirk
You could do a full motion picture movie of an idea you have. So what it's going to do is it's going to sharpen human beings ability to judge what is good and not good. A skill that we don't always use. But there definitely could be some downsides there. So anyway, as far as the housing market goes, I also think mass deportation will bring the price of housing down because there'll be less bidding for the limited supply. Thanks, man, for your question. Really appreciate it. Let's go to Christian, and I want to make sure I pronounce this correctly. Lisi, thank you for being a member. What's on your mind? Hi.
Daisy
Thank you. You did pronounce it correctly.
Charlie Kirk
Great.
Daisy
It doesn't happen very often. We were at your event at usf. We had a great time. We appreciate you coming out to visit.
Charlie Kirk
Oh, amazing. You were there yesterday. Sorry, I didn't say hi. That's great. Yeah.
Daisy
No, it's okay. We were close, but there was a lot of pushing and shoving and trying to get to you.
Charlie Kirk
There were a lot of people.
Daisy
Yes, yes. I was just blown away to see the response from college students and their energy and, you know, as well as the nonsensical questions that were asked and the talking points and all the comments about Doge. It was just very interesting to watch. But my question is about some of the deportations that are being carried out. I know that a lot of. Maybe not a lot, but some of the individuals are maybe not high priority, but do you think we'll get to a point where the DHS will stop approving work authorizations and extensions for those that use it as a shield to stay in the country?
Charlie Kirk
So, first of all, I want to just ask. Can you just describe to the audience what that campus vibe was like firsthand? It was a packed group. They were standing the whole time. Kind of bring us into the. Into the arena. For someone that's just watching some of the clips, what was it like? What did you learn? What did you see?
Daisy
Yeah, it was high energy. It was. You know, we were. We got there at about 10:30, so we were there for quite a while. Lots of people coming in. We heard lots of students that were skipping class just to be able to come see you and be able to witness just some of the action. That's the first time we've been to a college event, so it was, you know, a very new experience for us. It was obviously hot and sunny and all that, but just hearing a lot of the questions and seeing the perspective of college students and just what. What has changed and what their experience has been like in college. And what blew me away the most was hearing. Hearing college students say that once. Once a professor finds out, you know, they're conservative, Christian, fill in the blank, that they're looked on differently and treated differently and graded differently. That was like the most.
Charlie Kirk
Wasn't that chilling?
Daisy
It was chilling for sure.
Charlie Kirk
So thank you for that. That was an awesome event. Now, as far as the work authorizations, I don't know. Look, the president's stated policy right now is that he wants to continue a steady stream of legal immigration and crack down on illegal immigration. That's fine. However, if and when I would have some disagreement with that, if and when it starts to jeopardize the wage growth or the wage integrity of. Of native born Americans, I would have some problems with that. But I think the president is addressing this in a very smart way. Go after people that are in this country illegally. And you remember that young lady yesterday from Columbia? She said, we're here legally. We want the people who are not here legally to get the heck out of the country. It actually creates a lot of legal versus illegal immigrant resentment. As it should. Thank you so much for being there yesterday. Sorry I didn't get to say hi. Daisy. Let's send them a signed book or something. Thank you, guys. Appreciate it.
Daisy
Aw, thank you.
Charlie Kirk
You're the best. All right, we're gonna see how much Blake knows about random Roman trivia brought to you by Hillsdale College. Just a reminder, all of this is accessible@charlieforhillsdale.com so normally, if Blake was doing this, how I would I take the online course and then I take the quiz. Now you've never taken these online courses, correct, Blake?
Trey
I have not.
Charlie Kirk
I have not. They're wonderful. For the record.
Trey
So this is what you could know if you take them.
Charlie Kirk
Yes.
Trey
You're not like me who just does stuff this like a psychopath in my free time.
Charlie Kirk
Yes. Well, you said it. But yes, but it's fun because now Blake is kind of going in blind. Now the extra points if you can do without me telling you the multiple choice. Okay. Okay, so this. So let's take some time on this. We have all hour to kind of go throughout this. This is the first question. Okay. Polybius. Did I say that right?
Trey
Yes.
Charlie Kirk
Was the tutor and mentor of Blank whom he accompanied on campaign.
Trey
His name was Scipio. It was not Scipio Africanus. That was his ancestor. It was Scipio Aemilianus.
Charlie Kirk
That is right. Well, I don't know if it's right, but that's one of the options. So the options were Quintus Fabius, Scipio Africanus, Hannibal Barca and Scipio.
Trey
Would not be Hannibal.
Charlie Kirk
Would not be Hannibal and Scipio Alamanus is one of the. We'll find out if you were right at the end. But I imagine you are. So who is Polybius?
Trey
Polybius was this Greek guy who got. His dad was a leader in like southern Greece. We won't get into the drama about it, but it was like the Achaean League I think was the name of it. And they got beat in a war. So he was a hostage in Roman. He either grew up in Rome or at least like he spent most of his age in Rome and he became this big Rome. It's kind of crazy. He basically, Rome was not super dominant yet, but Polybius deduced Rome is going to be the superpower of the Mediterranean.
Charlie Kirk
What year was this?
Trey
This is maybe about 150 BC or so. And he thinks Rome is going to be the superpower of the Mediterranean. They're going to take over the world basically. And I'm going to write about why. And so he wrote histories of Rome, but he also wrote analysis of the Roman constitution and stuff like that.
Charlie Kirk
Got it. According to Polybius, the primary reason Rome was able to conquer the Mediterranean world in less than 53 years was due.
Trey
To what he thought they had a special magical constitution.
Charlie Kirk
That is one of the answers we'll find out if you're right. According to Polybius, blank is. And again, I can give you the multiple choice answers if you'd like. Blank is part of the constitution of Rome. Now this is. I probably have to give you the multiple.
Trey
Yeah, give me the assertions here.
Charlie Kirk
So according to Polybius, blank is part of the constitution of Rome. Education, religion, the military, all the above or none of the above?
Trey
All of the above.
Charlie Kirk
Okay. Just to make sure he's really.
Trey
It's. He's not even just. It's not like our constitution where it's just, you know, how politicus. He's really describing how their whole society is organized.
Charlie Kirk
So you would say all the above. Education, religion and military. Okay, got it. Question four, very heavy on Polybius today. Polybius explains that the Romans had a mixed constitution with the Senate designed to supply what.
Trey
It'S going for. I think aristocracy is what he's going for because he would say in the Greeks they would have oligarchies which were aristocratic tyrannies or like kings, like monarchies. And then they would have democracies, which was the mob. And he thought Rome had all three of these because they had the tribunes who were like the masses. They would have monarchy through their consuls who were like an elected monarch sort of. And then the Senate was the aristocracy. So he's going.
Charlie Kirk
So that is one of the Options. So is that your final answer? Okay, aristocracy, this is the last one. Then we'll take a break and we'll get back to the. The highest office in the Cursus honorum. Did I say that right?
Trey
Cursus honorum. I'm not sure how you announce it for sure.
Charlie Kirk
Was the.
Trey
What Consul?
Charlie Kirk
Okay, that is one of the answers. So I know enough to be dangerous about a council. Cicero was a Roman council.
Trey
Yes.
Charlie Kirk
They only served for one year.
Trey
One year. And they were rotated. Used to be you couldn't do it more than once. That would break down over time. So like I think Marius was consul seven times and.
Charlie Kirk
But yes, Cicero was like a one year Roman council. Was that before or after? Before. Caesar have to be.
Trey
I think it was possibly after the first time. Maybe it was a bit.
Charlie Kirk
It was.
Trey
I can't remember my exact hierarchy, but.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah, probably when they were still a republic form of government. Right? Okay, so that's five of them. If you guys want to dive deep into Churchill, into Roman history, into the US Constitution, into Marxism. No better place than hillsdale college. That is. Charlieforhillsdale.com to get started for free today. It's no charge. Charlieforhillsdale.Com gentlemen, let's get real for a second. Are you frustrated with today's woke dating scene? The apps, the games, the endless swiping. It's a waste of time. Finding a woman who shares your values, faith, family and patriotism feels nearly impossible. But it doesn't have to be. Selective Search, America's leading matchmaking firm, is changing the game. They connect strong, successful men like you. Men who love God, love America and want a family with incredible women who share your values. These are intelligent, faith driven women who put family first and still believe in traditional values. Imagine that if you're single, 35 to 40 years old, conservative man in Southern California. Listen up. Selective Search has an exclusive network of women ready for the real thing. Here's the best part. Their candidate program is 100% free and confidential. Some of my closest friends have used Selective search and let me tell you, they're meeting incredible women. This is your chance. This is not an app. It's your answer. The perfect conservative woman is out there waiting for you. Visit selectivesearch.com california today. Let the professionals introduce you to women already looking for someone like you in Southern California. Don't wait for the perfect moment. Take action now. Go to selectivesearch.com California and start building the future you deserve. Brad is next. Brad, thank you for being a member. What's on Your mind. Hey, Charlie. Great to see you.
Trey
We met at the Christmas gala in Mar a Lago and then again at Amfest Phoenix. So it's good to see you again. See, do you have an eidetic memory? And how did you learn to read so fast?
Charlie Kirk
So I do not have an identic memory. Blake probably does. Not quite, but no, I do not. And I don't know if I have the ability to read fast. I have the ability to process information pretty fast. I can be sent a paragraph. Be sent information. And I'm pretty good at being able to host a show and read what people are saying and then be able to at least make arguments. While not everyone has, I think, the ability to do that. I guess it's a skill set. Andrew says you process information insanely fast. Not always accurately, but I have a nine.
Trey
But you know, again, I getting 90% of it instantly.
Charlie Kirk
Yes.
Trey
Still pretty good.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah. And it's the. The Ryan says in the chat, he says the skill is nuts. You could talk on radio and then type messages in our chat at the same time. Very impressive. Yeah, I mean that. I never knew that was a skill. Andrew says sometimes you jump to conclusions and most of the time it's spot on. So that's the best answer I have. I guess I was born with it. Thank you, Brad, for being a member.
Trey
Fantastic. Thanks, Charlie.
Charlie Kirk
Kendra, thank you for being a member. Deeply appreciate it. By the way, I want to encourage you guys to get some of these hats that Blake and I are wearing here. This guy, you guys can get them at the Charlie Kirk store. We've sent all of them out as were promised, by the way. Let's go to Kendra. Kendra, what's on your mind?
Kendra
Hi, Charlie. Great to talk to you. My friend and I, Lori, started a TPSA faith group in our church last year and we've invited Seth Gruber to speak to us in September. We have a critically important election in November for governor and House of Delegates because the Democratic Party is trying to put abortion in our Constitution and we want to stop that. We want to raise awareness. It's not a presidential elections, so we're concerned that people won't show up like they did. And with all the upheaval in the government, we're hoping it breaks up some of the monopoly of liberalism in Northern Virginia. But we were wondering, in this process, we found out there's no TPUSA action group that I'm aware of in Virginia, or at least no person, and wondered if that's in the works or if there's anybody specific that we can talk to. We'd love to work with them in this coming year before this election.
Charlie Kirk
So first of all, I want to just applaud you, Kendra. The fight for life is the most important fight. So thank you for doing that and for going against the grain and going against popular, conventional, let's just say views and doing the right thing. So God bless you. You will be richly rewarded for that. Secondly, I want the number one piece of emphasis on that fight needs to be the churches. If the churches can't speak out on this issue, then there is no chance that you could stop it. Especially though in a lower turnout type election. That's where churches can mobilize and can make up some of that difference. You are correct. We do not yet have full time staff or any presence in Virginia at Turning Point Action. We might expand, but understand every organization has to know their limitations, know where they're best positioned. Arizona has been obviously a major focus of ours. We're keeping an eye on Virginia. I certainly hope there's a good senatorial candidate coming. I would love to see Glenn Youngkin run for Senate in 2026. But more importantly, we do have tools that you in Virginia can use. You can use the Turning Point Action app. You could do a commit 100. You can use some of our training. So there's a lot that is still available for you. But we are contemplating getting involved in the Commonwealth of Virginia. Kendra, really quick, do you believe that Virginia could turn into a red state presidentially?
Kendra
Yes, I do. The area that I'm in, so much of the areas that we found are very red. In fact, I worked in the polls as an election worker and I was told that our area is heavily Democratic and I looked afterward and all the Republicans on the slate won our area by a lot. So I was very pleased about that.
Charlie Kirk
I think you're right. Again, I don't want to get too bullish on it, but the trend is our friend in Virginia. It really is. But Kendra, do not give up on the fight for life. It is incredibly important. I know that people want to ignore it and they don't want to fight for it, but lean in. I'm glad you're hosting, Seth, and hold the line. Seriously. God bless you for that. Thank you, Kendra, for being a member.
Kendra
Thanks so much. God bless.
Charlie Kirk
Okay, email us freedomarliekirk.com, subscribe to the podcast Become a Member. It's members.charliekirk.com only. Members are able to ask us questions. And so everyone who is here on the program live is a member. And we love the questions, we love the commentary, and we have the best members. They're so thoughtful, they're prayerful. They are the greatest members.charliekirk.com okay, we continue with the Hillsdale test. Just a reminder. Normal people take the Hillsdale online courses and then do the quizzes. Blake does the quizzes because he was uploaded with a bizarre amount of information in utero about Rome. It's charlieforhillsdale.com the courses are amazing. I am gonna try to have Blake take some of the courses because I don't know if you could do this with every topic. Probably not like the Jane Austen one. I don't know.
Trey
I haven't read Jane Austen.
Charlie Kirk
Euclidean geometry you might be able to do. Okay, so let's use this as a chance to educate around this. The tribune of the plebs. Did I say that correctly? Had the power to blank first. What is the tribune of the plebs?
Trey
Tribune of the plebs was a. It was an office created. They kind of had this thing called the struggle of orders in Rome because they had patricians who were the elite, the noble class. And then you had the plebs, ordinary people. And the tribune, they were kind of an office that was created after the plebs revolted a few too many times and they would demand more rights. And the tribune, he. The big thing that he could do is a few things. One, he was personally inviolable. So he was. You could not touch a tribune, I believe, I think was a death penalty offense to harm a tribune, basically. And then they could veto legislation. Veto literally means.
Charlie Kirk
That's one of the options.
Trey
They could veto. It literally means I forbid. And they could just say veto and kill a bill. And then if they're looking for something else.
Charlie Kirk
Did they have the ability to convene the People's Assembly?
Trey
Yeah, yeah, they could do that too.
Charlie Kirk
Okay, so would you say then convene people's assembly and veto bills? Yes, that's one of the options.
Trey
Okay. And see, we'll go with that.
Charlie Kirk
Okay, very good. Number seven. I have to. This is a fill in the blank. The blank was a ladder of offices through which Roman citizens.
Trey
Cursa senorum or honorum or however you want to say that.
Charlie Kirk
Okay, well, I don't have to say the options.
Trey
Yeah, exactly. Okay, well, they already said it in the quiz.
Charlie Kirk
The power to conduct foreign diplomacy for the Russian. For the Roman Republic.
Trey
Russian Republic. That'd be crazy.
Charlie Kirk
For the Roman Republic resided with the.
Trey
Blank that would be the Senate. Like the Senate would declare war, the consuls would command the army. But it wasn't like us where the president does these things. It would be that the Senate would send ambassadors, they would reply to things.
Charlie Kirk
And now just, just to remind the audience, this was before the transition from the Republic to a dictatorship.
Trey
So dictatorship was an office that the.
Charlie Kirk
Roman Republic had for military purposes. Right.
Trey
So yeah, so what would happen is the dictator was like an emergency. The console they had was they had two consoles and they could each over, like they couldn't override the other. And so when there was a super big emergency, the Romans would declare a dictator where it was basically only one. He would supersede the consuls and his word was law. It could only go for six months and at the end of it he would have to answer for anything he did. But he could basically had absolute power for six months. And they would use this for emergencies. Julius Caesar did declare himself dictator for life. They got a little stabby, stabby towards him for that.
Charlie Kirk
And then on the ides of March.
Trey
Yes. And then a lot happened in the 15 years after that. And it ends with the empire. And it was kind of a constitutional fiction that they created first. So it's sort of a process where Rome gets. It becomes an empire, in fact. And then it becomes more and more and more so in practice.
Charlie Kirk
And Augustus, so like Augustus, he just.
Trey
Called himself first citizen and he was the emperor because he just wasn't even.
Charlie Kirk
Nephew of Julius Caesar.
Trey
He was the adopt. I think he was the biological nephew and adopted son.
Charlie Kirk
I know enough to be dangerous. Charlieforhillsdale.com you'd say the Senate would be there.
Trey
Yeah, yeah.
Charlie Kirk
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Trey
Charlie before I looked up who the 47th emperor was. And it's not easy to say who the 47th is because there's co emperors. But the best answer I think is Diocletian, which if you look him up, he's a very important reformer emperor. There was a giant crisis. The empire was falling apart and he is the one who restored stability. He also persecuted Christians a lot. We don't agree with that part of it.
Charlie Kirk
Bad.
Trey
But that was bad. That was bad. Don't do that. But he did a lot of other things.
Charlie Kirk
He was Merrick Garland in that way. All right, two more. I want to get to these two more questions here. Polybius argues that the primary flaw of the Roman constitution, is it true or false? Was that it impeded decisive and prompt action when it was needed.
Trey
False, because he thought that was one of the things that was good about it is that it had a deliberative aspect, but when there was an emergency, it could supply decisive action.
Charlie Kirk
Rome's mixed constitution created a system of checks whereby each part of the regime could prevent the others from becoming too strong or independent because no part of the regime was blank. I can read the options.
Trey
Yeah, read the options on that one.
Charlie Kirk
Capable of conducting foreign affairs, in control the military, self sufficient or in charge of public finances.
Trey
I think they're going for self sufficient on that one.
Charlie Kirk
We can, we can pause if you want.
Trey
Let's do self sufficient because that's the last question. Right.
Charlie Kirk
Okay. Just to say Rome's mixed constitution create a system of checks whereby each part of the regime could prevent others from becoming too strong or independent because no part of the regime was self sufficient.
Trey
I want to know before we get back, did I get them all?
Charlie Kirk
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Trey
Hi Charlie, I'm from New Jersey. So I mean 19 year old conservative pop music artist. I want to be able to share my views and build my brand around that, but I find it very hard in a liberal industry. With Chapel Roan and Charlie XCX And I've always been told, oh, you gotta push your music towards the LGBTQ community. Which I thought's ridiculous. So my question is, how can I be a, like, maga conservative pop star when I have everything going against me?
Charlie Kirk
Well, you have the population going for you. Remember what side won the popular vote. So, I mean, it might feel as if everything's against you in your current industry right now, but the. I could tell you that you could definitely become very popular now. I will tell you, I want to thank you for being a member and I'd love to listen to your music. I don't know if I'd like it or not, but no offense to you, I just don't know if I like the genre. My team trolls me all the time. I don't know who Charlie XCS is or Chappelle Rowan. Do you know who these people are?
Trey
I've heard.
Charlie Kirk
Which Roman emperor was Chappelle Rowan?
Trey
Admittedly, I can't help you on that one.
Charlie Kirk
It's a joke.
Trey
Charlie xcx. That could be like a very late stage.
Charlie Kirk
That's like a late stage Roman emperor.
Trey
Charles the 10th Charles. That could be like a. Could be like a French emperor.
Charlie Kirk
No, no, put up. Put up Chappelle Rowan on screen. Do you know who Chappelle Rowan is? Let me see, let me see.
Trey
What is that? That does look like a piece of Renaissance art. I'm gonna go with French Monarch Thomas.
Charlie Kirk
Do you know who Chappelle Rowan is? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I bet your music's better. She has a song called Pink Pony Club. Daisy says you would hate it. I'm sure I would. Look, if you love the craft, man, lean into it. Dedicate your life to it. Don't let anybody get in your way. Do what you believe is right. Art needs to glorify the highest good. The reason why music largely is terrible last 20 years is not pointing towards anything. It's pointing towards self indulgence, it's pointing towards licentiousness, it's pointing towards narcissism. All art, all inquiry points towards some good. What is that from Blake? Aristotle's Ethics. It points everything, and Aristotle is exactly right. Everything you do, every action, every inquiry, every art, every good points towards some good. It points towards what your definition of good is. And there is only one objective definition of good. So the point being is, if you're gonna be in Pop Star, do something that points towards the divine, towards the beautiful, not just towards rubbish like Chappelle Rowan. Thanks, man. Hope to meet you soon. And please send me your they call it a mixtape still. Please send me your playlist. Thanks, man. Thank you, Kylie, Joanie, thank you for being a member. What's on your mind?
Kendra
Hey, Charlie. Hey, Blake. The 47 hats look great.
Charlie Kirk
Aren't they great?
Kendra
Yeah, they are. I can't wait to wear mine.
Charlie Kirk
And it's charliekirkstore.com yeah, I purchased one.
Kendra
So I know you're sending them out, so I can't wait to receive it and wear it. Anyway, my questions are around election integrity. And I'm from Orange County. I know you're in Arizona. We probably share the same frustrations with the long counting process. And I observed in the polls and then I also observed the counting in the Orange county registrars of voters. Just watching the ballots and watching a couple seats get turned over from red to blue with all the mail in ballots and the provisional ballots. So I guess my question is I think I saw your governor recently reject implementing some of the Florida voting process.
Charlie Kirk
Oh yeah, the wonderful Katie Hudson. Yeah, yeah. Katie Hobbs.
Kendra
So what do you know about that? And then what's next? And if President Trump and or Doge have any plans of cleaning up voter rolls and ending this long process of counting ballots after election day.
Charlie Kirk
So yes, a couple things on that. The problem is the federal government does not have as much authority or jurisdiction over this as you might think. So let me read my X on this if that's okay. Katie Hobbs just vetoed HB 2703, a bill that would have guaranteed Arizonans who would know the winner on the night of the election. Arizona's been the laughingstock of national politics because it takes three to four weeks to deliver a final canvas and Arizona's Democrat governor just vetoed it. As you say, we must become a state that will settle for this. And here's my unfortunate but actually also fortunate because I think we can do it. This has to happen. This has to be a state led thing. This is not going to happen from the feds. It has to be a state led thing. And so we have to say that we're going to win the states from the bottom up and engage the grassroots. So that's the best answer I have and hopefully we can pass the SAVE Act. All right, thank you. Vernon is next. Vernon, what's on your mind? Hey, Charlie.
Trey
First time on the show live, actually listening to the show live. So excited that I got to talk to you. Quick question.
Charlie Kirk
I'm interested in your opinion on this.
Trey
Third term project that showed up at CPAC this week purporting to allow President.
Charlie Kirk
Trump to run again.
Trey
I'm from my libertarian roots, fundamentally against it, but I'd like to see term limits for all elected officials.
Charlie Kirk
But just wondering, you know, if you.
Trey
Could give your context and thoughts on it.
Charlie Kirk
So as far as Trump's third term, is that Casey we were talking about? Yeah, I don't think it's constitutional. I'm open and willing to hear any and all arguments. Blake, what, if any, would the argument be that Trump could run for a third term?
Trey
I.
Charlie Kirk
And let's just read it. Constitutionally, what is the amendment 21?
Trey
The amendment is. I think it's the 23rd.
Charlie Kirk
22. 22. So let's read this. Okay. And I want it. Let's hear this out. Okay. Because any argument we're going to hear out, no president shall be elected to the office of president more than twice. And no person who has held the office of president or has acted as president for more than two years of a term which some other person was elected president, shall be elected to the office of president more than once. And then it goes on.
Trey
But basically doesn't apply to Truman.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah, but it does say, I mean, it's. They would say it's not two consecutive terms. It does not mention consecutive anything. Here it says no person shall be elected to the office more than twice.
Trey
Sometimes people will say, sometimes people will speculate. You could do something like you could elect him, vote vice president. And then.
Charlie Kirk
Right.
Trey
But then what it says is, like, no one who is ineligible to the office of president can be elected vice president. They'll. Sometimes people will come up with. I think it's a cop out where they'll say, well, eligibility only means things like they can't be from, you know, born in a foreign country, they can't be below the age. And like, this is something else. I'll be honest. I think those are all massive cop outs. Like, we passed this bill because FDR made himself president more than two terms. We thought that was a bad precedent that we shouldn't repeat.
Charlie Kirk
That's exactly.
Trey
So, you know, only can go two terms. And I think if they try to get around that, it would be unconstitutional. This happens every time.
Charlie Kirk
I'm Trump's biggest fan and I mean, if he's popular and if it's constitutional, fine, serve with a term. I just want to. I'm just reading the law because we're.
Trey
And this happens every time a president gets reelected. You know, Bush, someone proposed like, oh, let's get rid of the term limits for Bush, Obama, Democrats said, let's get rid of limits for Obama. This happens. It's understandable. We like our guy, but we did pass this for a reason in 1951. And the text of the Constitution is can't be president more than twice. And in the long run, I think that's a good practice to have. Because what, as we'll see with Rome, what undoes any republic is the idea that one person is just totally indispensable to it.
Charlie Kirk
By the way, all of you guys, this is one of the reasons why you should support Turning Point usa. You should have this Constitution with you at all times. It's, it's amazing. It has all of the extra facts on it. Again, I am open to any argument always. But help me understand, is there wiggle room in the statement, no person shall be elected to the office of president more than twice? It does not strike me now if it said that no person shall be elected to, like, consecutive terms. It's just none of that, is there? All right, thank you. Let's go to the next question. Scott? Scott, what is on your mind? Members.charliekirk.com yeah.
Blake
Hi, Charlie. Thank you. First off, I want to publicly thank President Trump for signing the executive order keeping education accessible and ending the COVID 19 vaccine mandates in schools. But I'm not sure if the president or if other people are aware of what's been happening in California since 2016. Governor Jerry Brown passed a bill, the SB 277, which removed personal belief or religious belief as a reason to be exempted from vaccines in order to enter school. So my question is, do you see Trump doing the same thing for all vaccines? Because the rationale inside of that executive order, the language used, is pretty compelling. It's talking about children being coerced to take a shot and conditioning their education on it, parents being and how parents should be empowered, free to make their own decisions. And so this is critical because as RFK Jr has stated, there are no pre licensure, double blind placebo tests for any of the vaccines out there. And so I'm not comfortable injecting my two boys with aborted fetal tissue and no neurotoxins without that 100% assurance that they'll be okay, along with the $5 billion paid out to the vaccine injury compensation programs. So my question is, do you see him actually moving just beyond COVID 19 and going to all vaccines and giving Californians, and I know Colorado and Hawaii have a similar thing, but giving Californians the right to go back to school and not being forced out of school.
Charlie Kirk
It's a really thoughtful question. Just so you know, producer Andrew is dealing with something very similar right now. I don't want to out him too much, but he's saying this ferociously in the chat, which is, okay. He said it's okay. He said he's dealing it with his son and daughter right now. He can't use religious exemptions. They're demanding the full schedule every single shot. And so look, we have to be level headed about this. Do we want to have, you know, MMR breakouts in schools? Probably not. At the same time, like, if you don't have a hepatitis B vaccine, you're not allowed into elementary school. That's insane. Like, I'm sorry, that's technically on the schedule. And they're literally at a place now where if you don't have the COVID shot, they're not allowing kids into these schools. And so I think there's some middle ground where there could be kind of a core schedule that might be necessary for certain schools. But religious exemptions used to be a thing in California and they've completely clamped down on them. So I think that it's something Bobby Kennedy needs to address completely and thoroughly.
Blake
So, yeah, I agree. This is. It's forcing a lot of families out of school.
Charlie Kirk
Well, and that's the thing, is that we are quickly heading towards vaccinated and unvaccinated vaccinated schools. That's where this is going to head. It's going to that is that direction. All right, thank you, man. Really good question. Hey, Charlie, Kirk here. Ever see your dog slowing down or having health issues and wonder, what can I do to make them better? Well, my friend, add rough greens to your dog's food for 90 days and you'll see changes that will amaze you, guaranteed. Invented by naturopathic doctor Dennis Black, Rough Greens wants to invite you and give your pup the Ruffgreens 90 Day Challenge. In the first 30 days, you'll see shinier coats and increased energy. By day 60, your dog will have a stronger immune system, less shedding, and improved joint function, all due to live nutrients you've added to their diet. And at 90 days, better digestion, reduced inflammation, improved heart health, and you might even have reduced their cancer risk. Fetch a free Jump Start trial bag for your dog today. Go to ruffgreens.com just use promo code Charlie. That is ruffgreens.com promo code Charlie. And just cover shipping. You don't have to change your dog's food to improve your dog's Health. Just add a scoop of Ruffgreens. That is ruffgreens.com. blake, I don't know if we can get through a whole nother quiz in two minutes.
Trey
Up to you. Or we could just go after.
Charlie Kirk
We could. I got something else to do.
Trey
Let me.
Charlie Kirk
According to Dr. Calvert, which. This is a very difficult question, the ideal Roman was what? And there's, like, many options. Was it a farmer, lawyer, or. You have to know this historian. So this is not a fair question. Right.
Trey
So is he the guy, like, in the lecture?
Charlie Kirk
Yeah.
Trey
I mean, I assume he's probably thinking, like. If you're thinking the ideal abstract Roman, he'd be like a citizen farmer.
Charlie Kirk
Okay, so. Yeah, so a citizen farmer warrior.
Trey
Yeah. Yeah. That would that be like.
Charlie Kirk
If you get this wrong, I won't hold.
Trey
That'd be like Cincinnatus, you know?
Charlie Kirk
Yeah. The Order of Cincinnatus. Washington was part of that, wasn't he?
Trey
Order of the Cincinnati. Society of the Cincinnati.
Charlie Kirk
That's where we get the town Cincinnati from. Right. Okay. If you get that wrong, I don't think. I don't think that's fair. The top of the Roman social order was the what class?
Trey
Patricians.
Charlie Kirk
The struggle of the orders encompassed a period of about 200 years, during which the plebeians demanded that the patriarchs give them greater social.
Trey
True, true. Going fast.
Charlie Kirk
Blank was celebrated as one of the great models of Roman citizenship for keeping invading the Etruscan forces from crossing the sublime.
Trey
Horatius.
Charlie Kirk
Horatius. Yeah, yeah.
Trey
I don't know his full names. Horatius at the bridge.
Charlie Kirk
The great poem.
Trey
Read it.
Charlie Kirk
The Blank is the highest religious position in the Roman Republic.
Trey
Pontifex Maximus. That's why the Roman pope is called the Pontifex.
Charlie Kirk
The evocatio was an ancient Roman prayer that asked what it was.
Trey
This, like, funny prayer they would do where they would act like if they were attacking an enemy city, they would pray like, hey, gods of the other people, you should come be our gods instead. And so then if they won for.
Charlie Kirk
Foreign peoples to abandon their gods and.
Trey
Turn to Rome, I think it was foreign gods to abandon. Yeah.
Charlie Kirk
Okay. Okay, really quick. Lucretius Lucius Quintitius Cincinnatus is remembered as a great hero of Rome because he. What?
Trey
Because he was dictator and he handed the power back. Like, he left his farm, won a battle, and then quit. Like that was.
Charlie Kirk
The Roman refused the office of dictator and continued not refused.
Trey
He became dictator, but then he forfeited it voluntarily. Like, he resigned after.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah, that would you're gonna have to choose that one, though. I mean, defeated the Aquian. Surrender dictatorial power. 15 years.
Trey
Yeah, 15 days. 15 days.
Charlie Kirk
You like that one?
Trey
Yeah.
Charlie Kirk
Okay, so he defeated and surrendered. Okay. In the early Republic, a dictator was.
Trey
A what a dictator was someone, like, elected to emergency powers.
Charlie Kirk
Yep, that's right. At the battles of Her, Kalia and.
Trey
Asalim, Pasculum and Heraclea.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah.
Trey
Pierce of Epirus, he Pyrrhic victory. He won but lost a lot of dudes. And then said he could not keep fighting the Romans because if he won too many battles, he would lose war.
Charlie Kirk
The Romans had conquered most of the Italian peninsula by what year.
Trey
They'D done most of it. But, oh, yeah, they defeated the greeks, like, to, like, 275.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah, it was 270 BC.
Trey
Yeah, that sounds about right.
Charlie Kirk
Blake got 100%. Charlie for hillsdale.com. okay, let's go to Zane. Zane, thank you for being a member. What's on your mind? Zane, the floor is yours. Yes, hello. I'm 20 years old, and I have a lot of younger friends, and I'm wondering how to get them involved in politics. Well, first of all, glad you're involved with being a member. Get them involved with Turning Point USA especially. Being a young patriot is super important and have community communication, and it's always helpful to meet with regularity and. Yeah, look, that's what Turning Point USA strives to do, is to build these kind of relationships, build these kind of gatherings. We'd love to help you in any way possible. Thank you so much, man. Last question of the day, Shannon. Shannon, thank you for being a member. You're the last question. Let's bring it home.
Daisy
Hi, Charlie. Thank you for having me.
Charlie Kirk
Yes. How are you?
Daisy
I'm well, thank you. I'm a teacher in Western New York, and just wondering, so what happens if they do eliminate the Department of Education, like in a blue state like mine, where right now I have more trust in the federal government than I do in the terrible leadership here in my state?
Charlie Kirk
Smart question. To be honest, it's gonna empower your state even more. And that's just the sad truth.
Trey
It's a valid concern because the best thing the Department of Education has currently is they have the civil rights office where they can say you're discriminating against white kids or whatever. And I'd hope that we can get rid of the Department of Education, but move that to the DOJ because that law still exists.
Charlie Kirk
100%. I will say that Blake is exactly right, that functionally the ability to enforce and police like anti white discrimination. That will go to the Department of Justice. I will say, what state do you live in?
Trey
Western New York.
Charlie Kirk
New York. I didn't internalize that. So, yes, that is a. Unintended. Not unintended, but that's just the reality of it. But you could also vote with your feet. I know that sounds terrible because I don't like telling people to leave their homes, but the federalized Department of Education has done such damage. Declining test scores, massive administration. And let me just tell you one number that Dr. Lehre Ahn told us on our show, which everyone should commit to memory. You ready for this? There are 23 million people that work for the government in America. 11 million of them are in education. Only 6.7 million of them are teachers.
Trey
That's crazy.
Charlie Kirk
That's Dr. Larry Arn on our show.
Trey
4.3 million administrators.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah. So. No, no. So 6.7 million of them. Let me get this right.
Trey
It was 11. 6.7.
Charlie Kirk
No, 6.7 million are administrators.
Trey
Holy cow. So more of them than teachers?
Charlie Kirk
Yes, there's more administrators than teachers. That's according to Dr. Larry. So that means that the majority of education spending goes towards paper pushers and permanent bureaucracy. Again, that's Dr. Larry Ahren's numbers. I trust him and he's a serious guy. And I mean, it just goes to show. What is the Department of Education done? It's the Department of Paper pushing administration of what it's become. Thank you for becoming a member. You're great, Shannon, and hope to see you soon. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us. As always, freedomarliekirk.com thanks so much for listening and God bless.
Trey
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Podcast Summary: The Charlie Kirk Show – Ask Charlie Anything 213
Release Date: February 24, 2025
Host: Charlie Kirk
Title: Ask Charlie Anything 213: Three Terms? First Hand Campus Tour Experience? Vaccine Exemptions?
Charlie Kirk, America's leading grassroots activist and founder of Turning Point USA, hosts the 213th episode of his show, tackling a range of pressing issues from immigration and housing to election integrity and campus culture. Engaging with members and experts, Charlie delivers insightful discussions interspersed with a Roman history quiz segment hosted by Blake.
Member: Christian (02:15)
Discussion: Christian, the chapter president for the University of South Carolina, raises concerns about the potential impact of mass deportations on the construction industry and the broader housing market. Highlighting that over 23% of Texas's construction workforce comprises undocumented immigrants, he ponders the future scarcity of construction workers and its repercussions.
Notable Quotes:
Insights: Charlie acknowledges the significance of ongoing deportations, noting that 37,660 individuals were deported in the last month, projecting an annualized figure of around 440,000. He anticipates a long-term shift towards the adoption of robotics in construction to mitigate workforce shortages, emphasizing human adaptability and technological enhancement as critical factors.
Member: Daisy (08:28)
Discussion: Daisy shares her experience attending a Charlie Kirk event at USF, describing a high-energy atmosphere with active student participation. She highlights the growing conservatism among Gen Z students and raises a query about the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) potential cessation of work authorizations and extensions for individuals using them as a means to remain in the country.
Notable Quotes:
Insights: Charlie commends Daisy's commitment and discusses the current immigration policies, supporting steady legal immigration while advocating for stringent actions against illegal entrants. He underscores the importance of focusing on individuals residing illegally and acknowledges the potential for decreased bidding in the housing market due to deportations.
Duration: Approximately 10:00 minutes (10:35 - 25:38)
Overview: Blake conducts a Roman history quiz, challenging Trey with questions about Polybius, the Roman constitution, and notable historical figures. This educational segment, sponsored by Hillsdale College, aims to enhance listeners' understanding of classical history and its relevance to modern governance.
Notable Interaction:
Insights: The quiz delves into the intricacies of the Roman Republic, exploring concepts like the mixed constitution, the role of the Senate, and the significance of military leaders like Cincinnatus. Charlie emphasizes the importance of historical knowledge in comprehending current political structures.
Member: Thomas (28:06)
Discussion: Thomas, a 19-year-old conservative pop music artist from New Jersey, seeks advice on building a brand in a predominantly liberal music industry. He faces pressure to cater to the LGBTQ community, which contradicts his conservative values, and wonders how to maintain his principles while achieving success.
Notable Quotes:
Insights: Charlie encourages Thomas to stay true to his values, emphasizing the role of art in glorifying the highest good. He highlights the importance of creating meaningful content that aligns with divine and beautiful principles rather than succumbing to trends focused on self-indulgence and narcissism.
Members: Kendra (19:01) and Vernon (33:09)
Discussion: Kendra from Northern Virginia raises concerns about the integrity of elections, referencing her observations in Orange County where ballot counting led to unexpected seat turnovers. She questions Governor Katie Hobbs' rejection of Florida-like voting processes and inquires about potential measures to clean up voter rolls and expedite ballot counting.
Notable Quotes:
Insights: Charlie articulates the necessity of state-led initiatives to ensure election integrity, citing Arizona's challenges and the broader implications of federal limitations. He advocates for grassroots mobilization and the passing of the SAVE Act to address these issues effectively.
Member: Blake (36:46)
Discussion: Blake expresses concern over California's SB 277, which eliminated personal and religious exemptions for vaccines required to enter schools. He questions whether President Trump might extend similar policies beyond COVID-19, impacting overall vaccine mandates and parental rights in education.
Notable Quotes:
Insights: Charlie acknowledges the delicate balance between public health and individual freedoms. He emphasizes the importance of legal exemptions and criticizes the stringent vaccine mandates that may lead to segregation in educational institutions, urging Bobby Kennedy to address these issues comprehensively.
Member: Shannon (44:23)
Discussion: Shannon, a teacher from Western New York, inquires about the implications of potentially abolishing the Department of Education in blue states, expressing distrust in state leadership and concerns over federal overreach.
Notable Quotes:
Insights: Charlie discusses the redistribution of educational oversight to the Department of Justice, advocating for reduced federal involvement to enhance state autonomy. He critiques the bloated bureaucracy within the Department of Education, highlighting that a significant portion of education spending is allocated to administration rather than teaching.
Member: Vernon (33:09)
Discussion: Vernon raises a proposition about allowing President Trump to run for a third term, despite constitutional amendments limiting presidential terms. He advocates for universal term limits to prevent the concentration of power.
Notable Quotes:
Insights: Charlie reinforces the importance of adhering to constitutional boundaries, emphasizing that any attempts to circumvent term limits would be unconstitutional. He supports the establishment of term limits for all officials to maintain a balanced and democratic governance structure.
Duration: Final segments (25:38 - 46:43)
Overview: Charlie wraps up the episode by encouraging members to engage through membership platforms, highlighting the value of grassroots activism. He reiterates the importance of education, technological advancement, and preserving constitutional integrity as foundational elements for a prosperous and free society.
Notable Quotes:
Insights: Charlie underscores the critical role of Turning Point USA in fostering conservative values and mobilizing youth across campuses. He advocates for informed participation in political processes and continuous support for initiatives that uphold freedom and traditional American values.
Conclusion: In this episode, Charlie Kirk adeptly navigates a spectrum of issues central to contemporary conservative discourse. From immigration and education reforms to the preservation of constitutional limits, the discussion is enriched by active member participation and a dedication to historical understanding. Charlie's blend of advocacy, education, and community engagement reinforces the mission of Turning Point USA to empower the next generation of American leaders.
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