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He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point usa. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives. And we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. I don't know about you, but I feel like I'm always looking at a screen, now more than ever. And whether you're an avid news watcher or in serious need of a distraction, unplugging yourself is easier said than done. One of my favorite ways to rest my eyes and still get the content I'm inching for by putting in my Raycon wireless earbuds and listening to something great. Whether you're catching up on a favorite news podcast, binging an audiobook, or powering through your workout with Pumped up playlist, a pair of Raycons in your ears can make all the difference. Raycons are built to perform anywhere or anytime. With water and and sweat resistant construction and Bluetooth that pairs quickly and seamlessly. 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Instead, it's about figuring out better ways to sell you. You see the technology companies in our country, it's a completely different profit model than almost anything we've ever seen. And I was actually really surprised. We had Senator Mike Lee in the office yesterday and I encourage all of you to subscribe to the Charlie Kirk show podcast to hear the conversation. And Senator Lee is definitely more on the libertarian side of economics, by the way. He's a good friend and a great American. I was surprised because I asked him a question. Not really sure where he was going to go with it, but anticipating that Senator Lee was going to say, hey, we got to let the market work itself out when it comes to these companies. And Senator Lee even said that it's time for government to intervene with the tech companies. I was stunned. I mean, you could have just tapped me over. It's a big deal that even the most committed free market defenders in the Republican Party, in the Senate, are now saying that we need government intervention. Here's part of the reason why is that looking at how things are not how we wish them to be, and looking at things empirically, not just on a chalkboard or a whiteboard. When companies are involved with artificial intelligence and the massive surveillance of citizens, and that's their business model, it warrants a different type of approach. Not now. The goal should always be obviously what is good for human beings, what is good for the flourishing of our of our lives and our families of our nation and our home. And markets generally do a really good job of that. They do. Markets are a good job of being able to empower people to take risks and to invest in themselves and improve their standard of living and the standard of living of people around them. But these tech companies are not operating in a market. They're basically governments. These tech companies, Facebook and Google and Amazon in particular, they have a perverse incentive structure. In fact, their incentive structure is opposite of that of a local small business. Their incentive structure is trying to steamroll and pummel you. So when I was in Bismarck, North Dakota, talking to Scott Hennan, and we started looking at small businesses throughout the city. I said, it's Amazon's goal to destroy those small businesses. That's not a healthy incentive structure. Now, a pure libertarian free market person would say, no, that's a good thing because it's competitive advantage and it is spontaneous order. I don't agree with that. I don't. I think markets are systems that we set up. People can operate naturally in markets, obviously before they're set up by the government. But when you involve this very, quite honestly, unknown form of technology, artificial intelligence, where whomever has the most server space and whomever can allocate the most amount of capital the quickest, you're talking about a form of an economy that I don't think we really understand what we're dealing with. And so should we have a check and balance against these corporations? We do. It's just about time we start using it. And again, the goal should not be about collectivization of property. The goal should not be about the confiscation of wealth. That is not an end goal for us. Of course not. However, anytime I bring up some of these topics, the way it used to go is that some people on the right would say, you know, you're a socialist. I mean, that's a ridiculous accusation. Instead, think a little bit more creatively. And how about you think for the first time in 30 years, what if I told you that Google is the Soviet Union? How did you view the Soviet Union back in the 1980s? You viewed it as, we have to do whatever it takes to challenge their power and push back against the sort of totalitarian impulses in the Soviet Union. And so this is a problem that has popped up in a variety of different ways. And the amount of power that is now vested in these companies is no different than if a government had that form of power. And so what is the proper check and balance? We like competition. We should try to allow competition. We like new companies being started. But even more than that, and Peter Thiel had a wonderful article that he wrote. I encourage all of you to check it out. That said, competition is for losers. It's probably one of the most thought provoking pieces I've read in the last two months. I encourage you to check it out. I think he gave it for a great organization, the Intercollegiate Studies Institute. Isi. It's a phenomenal speech. I encourage you to check it out. In fact, we can get some clips to it later in the hour. And basically he said that competition is what prevents true innovation. You might say, what are you talking about, Charlie? What are you, a Bolshevik? No, no, no, no. The argument Peter Thiel was making, if you don't know who Peter Thiel is, co founder of PayPal, very successful guy, he's saying if you're always looking to your right and to your left and trying to out compete another and instead not being independent in your own thinking, then you're simply trying to just create a mousetrap better than the person next to you instead of creating a whole new product that has not been dreamt of before. So this is a question to ask yourself, what do you know to be true? This is what Peter would say, what do you know to be true that other people think you're totally wrong about? What do you know to be true? And by the way, it doesn't have to be some off the wall thing, this is part of his speech, by the way. Competition is for losers, is that everyone has one thing that you know to be true that other people think you're wrong about. And so what Peter talked about is that when he left the New York City law firm and he said, I'm done, I'm not going to be here anymore, he was rejecting competition. That was an anti competitive move. He was saying, I no longer care about beating you guys, I'm going to go do my own thing. And I'm afraid that we have become so in love with this idea of kind of horse jockeying. I kind of prefer that phrase, quite honestly, better than competition. So I think that there's some. Again, we're getting into semantics here, but I guess what I'm trying to say is if your whole life is just trying to outdo another person, that's actually not what's good for society. Ayn Rand had a wonderful quote about this. And I get beat up all the time by Christians for quoting Ayn Rand. I just don't think you understand Ayn Rand. Ayn Rand was an outspoken atheist, but by the end of her life. There's a great piece written by Steve Mariotti who claims that Ayn Rand accepted that there was a God. In fact, can you find that piece, Steve Mariotti, Ayn Rand's Hidden Religion? It's very good. It's totally debated by Ayn Rand atheists. But Ayn Rand had a phenomenal quote that says, I will not make you live for another person. Do not make me live for you. And Ayn Rand had a very provocative statement and her magnum opus, Atlas Shrugged, which I think is a terrific book. And again, I don't look for her for religious purpose. I'm a Bible believing evangelical Christian. But I think that she had a phenomenal way of capturing the threat of totalitarianism and the need for individuals to stand with courage, the preference on reason and logic not as the only human value in my worldview. And it's a very significant piece of literature and I encourage everyone to check it out in a lot of different ways. We need more John Galt's and Hank Reardon's and that little snapshot of Atlas Shrugged does a phenomenal job of that. But Ayn Rand had another quote. I'm going to find it in a second where Ayn argued that the most immoral thing you can do is to say that you're living just to beat others. So instead, what if I told you that instead of worrying about getting the promotion over somebody else, you should retreat and think, pray and reflect and say what is it that I know is right? The truth that I hold that I want to accomplish outside of the guardrails or the corporate hierarchy that might be existing around me? That is something we're thinking about did you know that 80% of the grass fed beef sold in the United States is imported from overseas? It's staggering. That's why I get my meat from good ranchers.com because their product is 100% American. When you buy your steak and chicken from Good Ranchers, not only are you getting amazing meat, but you're also supporting American farms. 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And if you're interested in learning more about that, check out the Charlie Kirk show podcast. It was very factual and very in depth and we'll leave it at that, Thomas. And so I, for me, I would not be forced to take one. And as my personal choice not to take the vaccine. Okay, next question. Hi Charlie, my name is Jacob and I am subscribed. My question is, are we as Republicans, radical in our ideals? Or rather, does the left see us as radicals? If they do, what can we do to convince leftists that what we want is best for legal Americans in most cases, including them? Well, radical actually means to the root, to the original. If you actually go back to the original phrase of what radical means, but what you're really saying is radical. Are we out of the mainstream? No, they are. What we are talking about is very acceptable public policy. How about this? You put your citizens first. Families are important. You put the citizen over the foreigner. Your trade deals should preserve and protect hardware development and middle class work. Free markets are a great guide to be able to produce wealth and preserve what we have considered to be a rather enjoyable lifestyle. Private property is important. At the same time, we're not going to bow down and accept the corporate oligarchy. These are very moderate ideas. If you want radical, I'll go show you some radical ideas. Those are not radical ideas. Our ideas built Western civilization. Of course they're not outside of the mainstream. And what they're doing, again, we have used this phrase so many times and it's important because it just seems to be. There's about 15 things that we talk about here on this program, but it's just kind of buckets. So I just have to kind of sometimes draw from this bucket and draw from that bucket. This is the gaslighting bucket. We talk about that a lot on this program. If you don't know what gaslighting is, it's a psychological manipulation tactic that is used. Let's just say you were trying to manipulate or abuse your spouse. So what you would do is every time she would walk in, you would turn down the light a little bit and she'd say, is it getting darker here? Say, no, you're losing your mind. Or to use it in an Orwellian sense, let's say that someone just ate a bunch of cookies and you asked them, how many cookies did you eat? If they were lying, they would say, I ate six cookies. When in reality they ate 15 cookies. Instead, you go up to them when they ate all these cookies, you say, hey, how many cookies did you eat? And instead they've had crumbs all over their face. They say, oh, no, no, no, I didn't eat any cookies. You ate the cookies. No, I didn't eat the cookies. I promise. You're the one eating the cookies. No, no, you ate the cookies and you're a racist. That's Orwellian. It's not just a lie. It's the opposite of the truth. And that is what we are dealing with. So there's nothing that you should apologize for. There is nothing radical about wanting to preserve the American family, protect freedom of speech, your rights to own a firearm, the ability to own private property, not be bossed around by a corporation or by your government. Both of those are conservative values. Look, I want to tell you about something pretty cool. Do you want to get a professional hand painted portrait created from any photo at truly an affordable price? Choose from a team of world class artists and work with them until every detail is perfect. So here's how it works. You got maybe a picture of your dog, maybe a picture of your uncle, maybe a picture of just Donald Trump at a rally. And you say, you know what, I want that hand painted. I want it beautiful, I want it big. And then you work with a whole team. This is a pretty interesting product. When I first heard about it, I said, how do they even have the logistics to do it? 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Thomas Sowell wrote beautifully about this from In Discrimination and Disparities, one of his last works he's worked on recently. 2019, I think it was published. But then they try to make the simple overly complex. And here's the question. It's not a hard question. Hey, Charlie. I love the show and listen every day. Thank you. I had a question for you. So I'm 18. I attend a local community college. My classmates, my professor think that there should be no gender segregation in sports. My teacher asked why it is a justiful position to segregate sports by gender. How would you answer this? I have stated my stance on this topic and I believe sports must be segregated to make it fair for women. Men and women are biologically totally different. But my class doesn't seem to realize this. How should I respond to them? Thanks so much. First of all, thank you for your question. You win a signed copy of the MAGA Doctrine. Our team will be in touch. So I played a lot of high school basketball and a very good coach of mine, Don Rowley, awesome guy, he was an award winning coach at Hersey High School and he came over to be an assistant coach and a mentor of mine. He actually was my freshman basketball coach. It was such an honor to have him as a basketball coach. He was awesome. If anyone's listening that knows him, send him this episode. He always used to have this. Belief, and we tested it, that the girls varsity team, if they were any good, they would be able to beat the boys freshman team. And if they couldn't, they're really, they're not going to be good. So it was a test. So if the boys freshman team could beat the girls varsity team, the boys freshman team is pretty good. If not the girls varsity team, vice versa. And that's about the level that they were at. So 14 year old boys would be able to compete with 18 year old girls with basketball. That's about where the level was, four years removed. Now this is something that we call rather self evident. I have a mountain of pieces of paper that go to show that men have more muscle mass, they're faster, they higher levels of testosterone. And so the fact that your local community college professor and class don't see that is quite remarkable. Women's sports were created because women are women and men are men. I'd love to see. Just. You really think that, do you think, and here's just a very simple question, let's just start with this. Do you think there's one woman on the planet that could compete fairly in the National Basketball Association? The answer is of course not. Not even close. Let's even get further, let's get really provocative. Do you think there's one woman that could compete fairly without any sort of handicap, affirmative action type stuff in NCAA Basketball? Any woman in the WNBA that could compete on any of the teams in March Madness? One, Anyone? They have every so often this kind of ceremonial like oh, there's a female kicker that we bring on. They're usually not that good and it's usually done as some sort of equity thing. It's true. Not a big fan of that. Now, do you think that there Is any NBA player or any player in NCAA basketball that would dominate in women's basketball? Now, if what I'm saying sounds so ridiculously logical and obvious, of course. But we're living in the land of the insane where I have to say things that are logical and obvious. Here's another question. Is there a woman in America that could play a quarter of NFL football without being hospitalized? Is there? Find me that woman. A quarter of NFL football without being hospitalized. How about this? Is there a woman in America that could play outside of the kicker? Okay, that's a non contact position. Okay, I know media matters. She's just waiting for that. Is there a woman in America that could play SEC football, college football without having life altering injuries? Is there a woman in America anywhere that could compete as the fastest Olympic woman athlete? Okay, let's just take the fastest woman Olympic athlete in America that can Compete with the 20th fastest man in college. Anyone? Now it just comes down. This whole conversation is just such a simple conversation which is. What is a man and what is a woman? Well, a man has XY chromosomes and a woman has XX chromosomes. Not hard. So why even have women's sports? Why not get rid of it? Why not put them all together? Then women won't compete in anything. There will be no women competition. And honestly, any woman that wants to compete will get severely injured. It's an idea of bone density, muscle mass, testosterone levels and cardiovascular ability as well. By the way, men happen to be built by God's design, to be able to hunt, protect, be more likely to succeed in physical competition. This is what your children are learning in school. This is a legitimate question that we got from a listener. I'm going to read this question again. Where's this question questioner from? Probably California. I'm going to say this again, Charlie, listen to your show every day. I have a question for you. I'm 18 and I attend a local community college. My classmates and my professor think that there should be no gender segregation in sports. That's where we're headed. My teacher asked me why it is justifiable to segregate sports by gender. How would you answer this? I've stated my stance on this topic. I believe that sports must be segregated to make it fair for women. Men and women aren't biologically totally different, but my class doesn't seem to realize this. Now I'm going to say something super provocative. When it comes to basketball, women are chuckers. Okay? They don't shoot correctly. No, they don't, because they don't have the muscle mass to be able to do it. They shoot from the waist. Just a very simple difference. She's from California, of course. Show me one picture ever of a woman shooting a pure and total jump shot the way that Ray Allen or Scottie Pippen or Michael Jordan or LeBron James did. And that's fine. So if they can't even shoot a jump shot, which is again, by the way, that's okay. Why would you not give them their own sports competition? It's not hard. And Jenner agrees. Play tape, Lynn. So there's legislation in various states to ban biological boys who are trans from playing girls sports in school. What's your opinion on that? This is a question of fairness. That's why I oppose biological boys who are trans competing in girl sports in school. It just isn't fair. And we have to protect girls sports in our school. But if someone transitions and now identifies as a girl, isn't it delegit. So that is Jenner, who is was once a gold medalist. And here's another question. Why do women have smaller basketballs? Why is the women basketball 28.5? It's true. Women's basketball is a smaller basketball if there's no difference, if it's all the same, why is it that the women's three point line is closer than the NCAA college three point line? These are legitimate questions. Why is it that it's like an act of the eclipse every time a woman dunks? It's like we, we act as if it's a firework display when it's a daily thing that happens in most high school AAU basketball tournament. These are very legitimate questions. In golf they have an entirely different tee box. And by the way, they should have these things. I'm actually in support of them. I want to protect women's sports. Sometimes it's even 100 yards closer. And so. Dare I get logical on you? These things exist for a reason. They didn't exist for sexism. They, they didn't actually it's the opposite of sexism. It's hey, God made you a certain way. You don't have as much muscle mass, you don't have as much bone density, you don't have the same cardiovascular capacity on average, obviously. So we are going to make it the rule the same we would for nine year olds. We are going to make the rules more accommodating for you. And by the way, there are some phenomenal female athletes. Of course there are. And they always use this ridiculous example of 1973 highly publicized battle of the sexes tennis match, but tops women player Billie Jean King beats Bobby Riggs, who is 55, by the way. It was a 29 year old against a 55 year old. Okay, former number one ranked player. I would love to see. I would pay money to see Venus and Serena Williams together try to beat Novak Djokovic. Good luck. Together, both of them, they could go two on one. My money's on Novak Djokovic. Blindfolded to win. Nah, half blindfolded. Eye patch. Some people, they say they might be able to. No, my money's on Novak Djokovic. Serbian. The gluten free Serbian. He is. He's something someone says. I'd vote for the sisters. Okay, how about just Venus? Actually, Serena's better, right? By the way, Venus and Serena are phenomenal athletes. When they're not screaming at linesmen and doing the BLM thing, they're phenomenal athletes. I actually have a lot of respect for them. Now, what I'm saying here is obviously a thought crime. You're not allowed to say all this. No, I actually want women to be able to compete. I want women to be able to have a place where they can pursue excellence in a fair environment. So the question is, should we just get rid of gender segregation in sports? That would be the most anti woman thing you could possibly do. It would be the thing that would just create one form of sports. And if your position is that women should not be able to compete in sports, then that's your position. And that's a really dumb position because a lot of women across the country have found fulfillment, joy, happiness, self confidence and courage in their ability to have a participation in an athletic competition. All right, let's get to this question here. Let's see what other. What is the most provocative thing we could possibly choose in the last five minutes here? The Jenner thing. Yeah. So look, I saw Caitlyn Jenner. Jenner, let's just put it that way. On Fox News last night. People are asking me my thoughts. I've already made my thoughts very clear. Not a fan. Especially as a role model in the Republican Party. Nice enough person. Met Jenner before. Not gonna have my support. Let's go to the next question here. However, Jenner is right on sports. Okay, Charlie, there's great pressure coming from the left and right right now encouraging Stephen Breyer to retire while Democrats retain full control of the federal government. What are your thoughts on that? Would you encourage a conservative stalwart like Clarence Thomas to resign if the roles were reversed? Some people were Encouraging Clarence Thomas to resign. I would want John Roberts to resign. That would be nice. We could replace him. The liberal Justice John Roberts, who's appointed by George W. Bush. I think that what we're experiencing now is the Democrats want to change the way that we see the Supreme Court, that they want the Supreme Court to be a mere political arm, that they want the Supreme Court to be an extension of the Democrat Party. And we've seen that they want to expand the court, they want to add D.C. as a state. Everything for them is getting more and more power. Next question here. Not really a question here, but just a general sentiment, which is, Charlie, what do we do right now? We get this question all the time. And we have been encouraging people to show up for school board meetings and run for school board. And we talked about the positives of what happened in South Lake, Texas, where parents rose up in record numbers and took back their school board against the people that were teaching critical race theory and putting forward these awful, horrendous and insidious ideas. But even beyond that, we need every single one of you to be spreading these podcasts, to be spreading these radio shows, to be speaking out to your friends and your family members. That is what we do every single day at Turning Point usa. What we do is we try to inspire and instill courage into the next generation. And that's really what is missing right now, is people that have the courage to, to speak out. For example, every Republican should do what Ron DeSantis has been doing. Let's play a cut here of Ron DeSantis. I think he banned vaccine passports. Which one is that? We have that one here. Yes. Okay. Cut 36. Ron DeSantis saying that he will end all Covid restrictions in Florida. Cut 36. Well, what I'm going to do, I'm going to sign the bill. It's effective July 1st. I'll also sign an executive order pursuant to that bill invalidating all remaining local emergency Covid orders effective on July 1st. But then to bridge the gap between then and now, I'm going to suspend under my executive power the local emergency orders as it relates to Covid. I think that's the evidence based thing to do. I think the fact that that's a politician and a leader who's giving up power for the betterment of their citizens. Every Republican governor should be following that, saying, no more emergency powers. We are opening up our country completely. And I hope you find inspiration from Ron DeSantis, because Ron DeSantis a year ago today was under fire as he was reopening the Florida economy. And now he is leading the charge as he banned vaccine passports. He just gave a raise to all first responders and police officers. He signed an anti riot bill. He's gone after the tech companies, best school choice policies in the country and constitutional carry. Republicans, it's time to play offense. And conservatives, it's time to play offense. So people say, what do we do? It's time to be in the arena and in the game and all that we do. And if we do that, we are going to win. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us your thoughts, freedom charliekirk.com and if you want to support our program, go to charliekirk.com support God bless you. Speak to you soon. For more on many of these stories and news you can Trust, go to charliekirk.com.