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Ask Charlie Anything 78: How Did Charlie's Parents Instill Conservative Values? What Happens if Joe Biden Is Impeached? How to Start Home Schooling and MUCH MORE
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Hey everybody, Happy Monday. This ask me anything's a little different where I had people call in and we took questions in real time. So you could do that. You could also email us your thoughts. Freedom. Charliekirk.com both of them work really well. I think you're going to enjoy this conversation. On mandatory vaccine. Should we have an American Pride month? How did my parents instill conservative values? And so much more. If you want to support our program, you could do that at Charlie Kirk. That's charliekirk.com support. If you want to get involved with Turning Point USA, go to tpusa.com where we play offense with a sense of urgency to win the American culture war. I encourage you guys. If you want to email us, you know how to do it. Freedomarliekirk.com Ask me anything where I talk to you live. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the white.
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I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point usa.
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We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives. And we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Hey, everybody. This episode is brought to you by,
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okay, I want to get to some calls here. We'll go to Kenny in Denton, Texas, line two. Hey, Kenny, how you doing?
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Hey, good. How are you doing, Charlie?
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Good. What's on your mind?
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You know, I've. I'm a veteran. I just got out of the military. I worked on the C17s. I was a flying crew chief and a lot of my brothers and sisters were over there in Afghanistan withdrawing all these troops and Afghans. What's next? Because I look on the news and I see this and it just makes me sick. I don't know, like what's what, what's next for Afghanistan? What are we going to do?
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Tenney, thank you for your call. And so I want to dive into this. It's a great question. Thank you for your service to our great country. Look, the problem with what's Happening in Afghanistan is the way we got out, with no conditions at all whatsoever. And the strategy of the current government and the regime of the United States is somehow putting forward a moral equivalent of the Taliban who kill Christians and rip out their tongues, subjugate women, marry teenagers with any of our other allies or partners around the world. This was not done with prudence. This was done ideologically. This was done because Joe Biden wanted to say on September 11 that he ended the war. Now that sounds good, but anyone who has ever been in consequential decision making knows that you do not start with this desired object of the photo op and work backwards. You see, Joe Biden had photo op foreign policy. He wanted to be able to have a photo op at 911 and hang a wreath there and say, I ended the war. I think my president. I don't know. The point is that he started with what he thought was the political win and then tried to craft the circumstances on the ground to fit that political win. And in reality, it should be the exact opposite what's happening on the ground. And so now I'm watching video of people wearing American fatigues and uniforms with our weapons that are Taliban, with our night vision goggles, walking through airports, walking down the street, and we gave these weapons voluntarily that will come out. I have that on high intelligence. And so, Kenny, I'm sorry to say that we're not going back at all into Afghanistan. I'm not saying. I'm sorry to say that I don't actually support that. But what a disaster and a humiliation for what just happened in Afghanistan of so many Americans that sacrificed so much. And then we hand over weapons and money, $85 billion in weapons, to
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Taliban who killed Americans and that we were at war with for many years. So thank you for your call, Kenny. Let's get to Kelly in Ingleside, Texas, and she has some words to share from her pastor. Kelly, how you doing?
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I'm good. How are you, Charlie?
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Doing great.
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Tell me about your pastor.
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Yes, sir. First, I wanted to thank you for your work and dedicate John 9:4 to you. I must do the work of him who sent me. Night is coming when no one can work.
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Thank you so much.
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So my. Yeah, my church is not Calvary Chapel by any means, but my plant pastor made a call to action a month ago and said we need volunteers to do community prayer and outreach. And then he put the brakes on it. When that month was up, he. He put the brakes on and said, oh, no, we can't do any of that because of COVID And I just wanted to get your take on that.
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Well, well, first, thank you so much for your call and thank you for that verse. And so look, I use the model for the pastors of how you should run a Church. Rob McCoy, Jack Hibbs, James Cadiz, Joe Pettic, Pastor Jurgen, Pastor Frank Ramseur from Chattanooga, Ken Graves, Pastor Cody from Grand Rapids. These are amazing pastors that have been engaged in the community, and they have been. They have been feeding the hungry, they have been caring for the sick. They have been tenderly looking after the disadvantaged in their community while also proclaiming moral truth from the scriptures and not allowing secular narratives to seep into the church and also saying to their congregation, here is what is right and here is what is wrong. It says in the scriptures to love what is good and hate what is evil. You see, Friedrich Nietzsche, who basically was the beginning of the postmodern movement, he wrote a book called Beyond Good and Evil. Now, Nietzsche was a trickster. He was a German who literally lost his mind later in life. If you do not know who Friedrich Nietzsche is, do not send your child to college, because your child will know who Nietzsche is. Now, Nietzsche wasn't wrong about everything. Some of his conclusions were horrific. But where Nietzsche went terribly wrong was where he said he famously, he didn't proclaim this, but he stated in one of his writings it was actually a fictional narrative that God is dead. That's where that phrase came from, from Friedrich Nietzsche. Now, he wasn't actually celebrating it. And he actually. A lot of people think that Nietzsche wanted God to be dead. He said, the west is not going to know what to do with itself as soon as it removes God and it removes the purpose that it gives for people's existence. And so he said, therefore, we need to replace that with the idea of creating the superman. The idea of the superman came from Friedrich Nietzsche. It's called the Ubermensch, das Ubermensch in German. And he had this belief that we cannot know objectively what is good or what is evil. That's what he wrote in the book Beyond Good and Evil. And so if pastors are silent and churches are not involved in that, who is going to be proclaiming what is good and evil? You're going to all of a sudden trust the cdc. You see, if you trust scientists to give you the idea of morality, you will end up with eugenics. You see, science is a helpful tool to be able to understand how to navigate the natural world. Science is unhelpful when it comes to what to do with the tools in the natural world. Who do we save? Who do we give care to? A great example is this. Doctors left their own devices do not have a moral compass on how to help the disadvantaged. What is a good example of that? Doctors turning away unvaccinated patients. That's an immoral thing to do. That is why there are ethics boards that govern doctors to say, you know what, you're actually not allowed to turn away smokers, even though you might not like the decisions they're making. You have to accept everybody but doctors because we've designed our entire current political system and medical establishment around this idea of yielding to the credential crazy. The credentialocracy, or if you have a credential, you're somehow more self, you're more important than just anybody else. It lends itself to this idea that we are now allowed to be the moral referees of the entire society. So the significance of that is without the church, without the word, or without scriptures saying what is good and what is evil? Saying, you know what? No, no one should be turned away from a doctor's office. That is a. That is the first principle, by the way, of if you go to a hospital, you go to a doctor's office, they know that and they repeat it time and time again. Yet we're seeing that change. Why are we seeing that change? We're seeing that change because not only have we engaged in a hyper scientific way of governing ourselves, we have now embraced scientific morality, which is if you don't take the medicine we like, we're not going to treat you that if you don't, if you don't make the lifestyle choices that we choose, you're not going to have your life saved. Ezekiel Emanuel, one of the original architects of Obamacare, he argued for this. He argued that we need to have death panels to determine whether or not you made good decisions in your life. And if you made good decisions, then we might give you some care. And if not, we're going to kind of put you out to pass. Cass Sunstein wrote this in the book called Nudge, famous Harvard Malthusian philosopher and professor who was embraced by the Obama regime. We're taking your calls here. And so what would you say to that, Pastor Kelly? Tell your pastor to have a spirit of courage, not a fear. God does not give you a spirit of fear. Instead of it gives you a spirit of love and that of a sound mind. Listen up, everybody. We are just weeks away from yet
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another American travesty, one that could lead our country even further down the road to tyranny. I'm talking, of course, about court packing, the far left's radical plan to rig our entire federal judiciary system by adding four liberal justices to the Supreme Court and completely destroying the constitutional rule of law in our country as we know it. Thankfully, my friends at First Liberty Institute, a national nonprofit law firm, are taking a stand. They've written a letter telling the Biden Commission to reject this brazen court packing scheme. And now prominent leaders, plus over 100,000 patriots like you have joined their coalition. Franklin Graham, former Attorney General, Ed Meese, Dr. Dobson, plus organizations like the American Policy Association, Concerned Women for America are all on board.
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Now it's up to you.
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Sign your name right now next to these leaders. By September 15th. Go to supremecoup.com that's supremecoup.com right now, they're trying to pack the Supreme Court. My friend Kelly Shackelford runs this amazing organization. So do me a favor, Check it out. Sign it. It's free of charge. Supreme Coup.com
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waiting very patiently. Kenny in Battle Lake, Minnesota, how we doing? It's an honor, Charlie.
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Actually, this is Rich from Battle Lake. I was wondering if you would share with your listeners what your parents did to prepare you so brilliantly for your current mission.
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Well, you're very kind. Thank you for saying that. And wonderful. Battle Lake, Minnesota. My parents are phenomenal. And they were never propagandists and they were never pushing a specific political agenda. But they were a couple things that were always reinforced with how we talked about politics and matters of the eternal, which is always questioning, but saying that we are thankful to be American. One of the first things my parents taught me was geography. Understanding our physical place in the world, that's a very important thing once you can understand the size and scope of America in relation to the rest of the world. How big are we? How small are we? How much land do we actually have? What are the other parts of the world? What do they look like? What are the most important rivers? What are the capitals across the world? Those things are very important for people to know. Number two, my parents would always tell me that America is the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world. A nation that has embraced self government, that understands natural rights, that has the independent judiciary, and then appreciating the history behind it. But anytime that I would kind of spout out anything that would be conservative, my parents would say, well, why do you believe that? Let's talk about that. And then finally, I grew up in a culture that embraced and loved entrepreneurship, starting something from nothing, that knew that risk taking should be rewarded. And the creation of new things is what keeps a society vibrant. It keeps the society ambitious in a good way and keeps a society full of life with vitality. This is something that we have lost, I think, in some cities across the country in recent years. And so. But the thing that I tell parents all the time, and that's why we've partnered with hillsdale trust, charlieforhillsdale.com, charlieforhillsdale dot com is you need to know your stuff so that you can teach your children. You have to know the difference between Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison. Instead of spending three hours Netflix binging whatever latest show there is, spend an hour and go through two Hillsdale courses on the Federalist papers. Study them, write down what they're saying, their videos, they're easy to go through. And then you'll be able to challenge your children when they come back from a government school with some sort of line of propaganda about how the founders were all racist. You say, hold on a second, tell me about the Northwest Ordinance. I don't know about the North. Well, let's talk about that. Article 6 of the Northwest Ordinance was abolished slavery in the new territories. The first act of Congress that was passed unanimously by slaveholding states and free states. That's not a country that's founded on slavery. That's a country that's founded in the new territories of abolishing slavery. When was the first ever anti slavery convention ever held? Philadelphia, 1775. Chairman Benjamin Franklin, before the Declaration was even signed. First state to abolish slavery? Vermont, in 1776. Nine out of 13 of all the states had independently abolished slavery in their states before the ratification of the Constitution. September 17, 1787. Know your stuff to pass it on to your children because they are being propagandized by things they're seeing on TikTok, on Instagram, on social media. If you're a parent listening right now, it is incumbent on you to be the teacher, the explainer and the defender of values that you hold near and dear. And I want to be able to give you those tools. And that's why when you guys subscribe to our podcast, it means so much. And you listen to us because we talk about all these different things. We talk about the biggest lies of the day and how to navigate them and how to explain the truth in this sea of lies.
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I often talk about the crushing debt and lack of jobs that come with the broken college system in our country and how entering a trade or vocational school can provide great career opportunities where you are and skills will always be in demand. I want to talk to you about a good friend of mine, a great American who runs an organization called the American Institute of Non Destructive Testing. Maybe you're looking for a career. Maybe you just graduated high school. Maybe you are not really sure what
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you want to do with your life.
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Well, the American Institute of Non Destructive Testing is a place where you can get a skill in six months. And 93% of the people that go through this training get jobs with wages of $50,000 and can earn to 70 or $80,000 a year. And you might say, what is it? Well, it's training ndt.com that's training ndt.com to learn how you can have an opportunity to work in industries such as aerospace, oil, gas, nuclear and alternative energy as a technician performing critical inspections that make our world a safer place. So non destructive testing is where you are inspecting America's critical infrastructure. Let me tell you why this is important. It's recession proof. Even if the economy goes down, things we already have need to get inspected. Critical infrastructure needs to be looked at. Rocket ships need to be looked at. Nuclear plants need to be looked at. And guess what? The people going into non destructive testing needs to go up. Because so many people are retiring. There's a huge opportunity out there for you. Their program consists of six months online education followed by three weeks at the American Institute campus using state of the art inspection equipment such as ultrasonics, capturing X rays and producing magnetic fields to inspect critical components to ensure their safety and reliability.
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No college can tell you that.
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We had a lot of great calls here. Roxburg, Idaho. Think I know where that is. Line two, Angela in Roxburg, Idaho. Angela, how you doing? I love Idaho.
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I'm good. It's Rexburg.
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Oh, I'm sorry. It's okay.
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Oh, it's okay. So just there's like seemingly endless amount of morals and issues to defend anymore. And I truly admire your ability to defend, you know, viewpoints and have that civil discourse. And I'm sincerely curious what your top books or tips are to help people like me to, you know, fine tune our skills of persuasion or, you know, debate.
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Well, thank you, Angela. I appreciate that. And thank you for calling in. So let me just kind of go through a couple tips and pointers. First of all, everyone needs to try and read more and consume information through television less. I think reading the news actually allows you to process the information without being manipulated by how they want you to see the other sensory imagery. Very important when you're talking to people on the left to make sure that your heart rate remains lower than theirs. Your style of how you debate actually sometimes matter more than the substance of how you debate. And then you have to know your stuff. I'm going to recommend a couple books if people are interested. Phenomenal book that I read literally in a weekend called Age of Entitlement by Christopher Caldwell. It is the, let's just say it's a thought crime book. It's a book that when you read it, you're all of a sudden be saying, whoa, am I allowed to be reading this? Is someone going to come and tap me on the shoulder and fire me from my job for reading this? Tucker Carlson said it's one of the smartest things he's ever read. It's on the COVID And what it is, it's a historical narrative told very matter of factly of America since the 1960s, on how the civil rights regime that implemented the laws and the Customs of the 1960s literally transformed the entire paradigm in a way that we never would have expected. And it's been so obvious in front of us as conservatives. And Christopher Caldwell is unafraid to talk about it. A couple other books that I really enjoy, I plug his book all the time. Vishal Mangalwaldi, the book that built your world. I'm rereading dystopian fiction because it's so uplifting. I'm kidding. It's the opposite of uplifting, but it's actually very instructive of how these people operate. Arthur Kessler's Darkness at Noon, Aldous Huxley's Brave New World, George Orwell's 1984 C.S. lewis and his book Abolition of Man, Mere Christianity is actually very uplifting and a phenomenal book. I Also reread Edmund Burke's Reflections on a French Revolution and also anything by Russell Kirk. The Conservative Mind by Russell Kirk is phenomenal. I encourage everyone to read the Conservative Mind or the Roots of American Order by Russell Kirk. They're terrific. Okay. This is not a book club show, I promise you. But we did get a question around that. Okay. Line three. Brian. Cleveland, Ohio. How we doing, Brian?
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Good.
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How are you, Charlie?
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Good. What's going on?
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So I have a question about, like, with everything going on, with the whole mess of the Afghanistan withdrawal, will Biden be impeached? Which I don't think will be likely, but if he is, how long do you think Kamala would stay in office, assuming she takes over?
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Yeah, it's a terrific question. Thank you. So I don't think that Biden is going to resign until the 50% mark of his presidency comes up. Where then the replacement, it does not count as a full term. I think they're going to try to get him to 2023. January 22nd, 21st, 2023, I think is the date they have circled on their calendar. If they can get him to that date, then all of a sudden the replacement does not have to actually serve an entire. It does not count as a term. It only counts as a replacement term. So that replacement could serve another full two terms. So do I think Biden is going to resign or be impeached? No. But I do think that every Republican needs to call for the impeachment of Joe Biden and at the very least call for mass oversight of the arming of the Taliban, of the lying to the American people, of the betrayal to our veterans, of, of the giving up of Bagram Air Base, of the killing of 13 Marines. You know, Biden says, you know, it's very orderly the way that we came out of Afghanistan. In fact, let's play some tape here. We have something from the Biden regime. Cut 51. Biden said, look, there couldn't have been a better plan of how they implemented to leave Afghanistan. Let's play cut 51.
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Now, some say we should have started mass evacuation sooner. And couldn't this have be done, have been done in a more orderly manner? I respectfully disagree. The bottom line is there is no evacuation. Evacuation from the end of a war that you can run without the kinds of complexities, challenges, threats. We faced, none.
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Do you hear that? People jumping out off airplanes, Black Hawk helicopters flying around that used to be ours, People getting their tongues cut off, little children getting massacred in the streets, hellfire missiles going on civilians, 13 marines being dead. That's just the way we do things in D.C. this management of the lowering of expectations by our ruling class goes to show exactly what that leaked phone call revealed. That leaked phone call revealed that Joe Biden cares more about the perception than. Than the reality when something's happening. Joe Biden wanted Ghani to pull a stunt and trick the world than actually have the ability to do what he said he was going to do. That's how the Washington, D.C. credentialcracy, credentialocracy, ruling class operate. Let's go to line two. Chris from Jacksonville, Florida. How we doing? Wonderful.
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Jacksonville, Florida.
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It's a privilege and an honor, man. And so the question or the comment that I guess I have is, you know, in July, you know, with the Fourth of July, you know, I just felt compelled to start an American History Month on a local kind of discourse and just because I felt left out of all the history months. So kind of, I don't know if, you know, you want to touch on that, maybe your take on, you know, trying to nationalize that as an American History Month, you know, just to. And I bring everybody together rather than divide us by individuality of, you know, individual heritage.
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First of all, thank you for calling, and I love Jacksonville, Florida.
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It's great.
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I want to say you're exactly right. We have LGBT Pride Month. We have Black History Month. We have all these different social awareness causes. And what used to be kind of an American Pride Month used to be July 4th, which was the founding of our nation, really July 2nd, but July 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, the founding of our nation, which of course now has a competitor with Juneteenth. We went all in on that particular issue, and we were vindicated. As people were canceling the July 4th parade, and we're highlighting kind of a Black power parade. Can't wait for that new cycle to come back again. We will be proven right on that. As we said, we now have a summertime competitor against July 4th, the Independence Day that Abraham Lincoln himself said, Four score and seven years ago, our forefathers sought a nation. He pointed directly to July 4, 1776, because he knew that day was the day that self government went from an idea to a reality. That's a big deal. That's a deal for all human beings. The Declaration of Independence is a moral document that makes a moral claim that when in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ties with that of another, it goes on to say that among these are life Liberty and the pursuit of happiness, the laws of nature and nature's God. They are appealing to a natural law principle. It's incredibly important. And I want to just say that I wish we had a country that could unite on universal American principles. But we have now gone into sectarianism, identitarianism, which does not take a lot of sophistication. The American founding took sophistication. The founding fathers were so clairvoyant and wise because they understood what was necessary to build a government on natural law. It takes no sophistication to build a government based on how you look. That's. Anyone can do that. Joseph from Iowa. Wonderful. Iowa. Is he 16 years old? Is that right? He's 16 years old. Joseph, how you doing?
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I'm doing pretty good. How are you?
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Good. What's on your mind?
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All right. So I'm just curious about my generation taking over in a decade or two because I know a lot of people
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my age that are liberal.
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So, yeah, concerned about that.
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You should be. Thanks so much for your call. This is why you got to get involved with Turning Point USA. TPUSA.com and also thank you for listening and for following us. Look, here's what I will say is that there are a lot of liberals that are young and there are a lot of students that are that have been propagandized by the mainstream activist system. However, with the doubling of a homeschooling population that we have pinpointed, with the amount of courageous conservatives that are younger that are starting to speak out, I believe we have more than a fighting chance. I believe that Generation Z is on pace to be the most conservative generation in American history. Now, one of the biggest obstacles we have is our government run education system. The government run education system in colleges in K through 12 and also the mainstream propaganda that you are seeing through digital and social media. But this is what I tell young people all the time. It's time to step up and be leaders. Lead your parents. No more blaming your parents and the baby boomers for handing you something that is less than desirable. No more just sitting idly by and saying, you know, my parents screwed this up. What if you can be the generation that can be called one of the greatest generations in American history by stepping up with courage and leadership, focus and vision. Without a vision, the people perish is what it says in Proverbs. Our generation needs a vision. What does that vision look like? Well, many people in the Republican Party can't articulate it. We want a country where it's easy to have many children where church attendance goes up, where abortion was something that we look back, we say, wow, we used to do that in our country. Can't believe that. And by the way, we're on the way to doing that. And so, Joseph, to summarize it together, it's time for our generation to be leaders. Not just followers and not just complainers, not just spectators, but active participants in trying to turn our country back to a free society and one that values the family and universal and eternal moral claims.
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We have two callers on a similar topic about vaccine mandates. Conservatives need to be worried about government overreach and at times corporate overreach, especially when they are pushing into your personal medical decisions that can conflict with deeply held religious beliefs and other beliefs that you might have what the best decision for yourself. For example, I am not taking the vaccine. I've decided not to. And I'm very lucky and I'm blessed, kind of self employed. And also run Turning Point USA where we're not mandating the vaccine. By the way, some of our employees have taken the vaccine. It's their choice and I will never ever criticize them or tell them otherwise. That's their own medical decision. But I know so many people that are losing their livelihoods because they're being forced to get a vaccine against their will. Conservatives need to stand up for these people. And some people say, well Charlie, just go get another job. Well, let's talk to Jeff from Plymouth, Michigan. If I'm reading this correctly, his son plays college hockey and they're mandating the vaccine. Jeff, you there?
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Yes. Hi, Charlie.
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Did I get that right?
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Yes, my son. You did? Police college hockey, mandated vaccine with religious and medical exemption consideration. Wrote his own letter, got denied. We have a meeting with the dean tomorrow. Just kind of wondering if you had any thoughts. I have a letter from a priest, you know, about religious conviction, conscience, etc. Etc. Just kind of wondering. Any other thoughts or ideas about how to twist the beans arm so to speak about providing for an exemption?
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A
Yeah. So what school? I'm just curious.
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E
Lawrence Tech.
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A
Lawrence Tech. And that is of course in. In Michigan.
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E
Yeah, sorry. Lawrence Technological University is about a 4 or 5,000 student private university in Southfield, Michigan.
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A
So let me ask you, your son plays hockey. Has he's played hockey his whole life. This means a lot to him.
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C
Right.
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A
So this is basically he has to make a decision to take a specific piece of medicine or forsake his dreams. Is that, am I understanding that correctly?
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E
That is correct. He's. Yep, that's right. And he's already decided he's not taking the vaccine. He'll give up hockey because he's not taking the vaccine. He's for a number of reasons, not the least of which is abortive, you know, feces. And he's been the pro life March many times in D.C. he's been standing in front of an abortion mill with us praying for 12 years et cetera, et cetera. So no way he's getting the vaccine, but he sure, at the same time it's heartbreaking that he has to give up his, you know, sports since he's played since he was five years old.
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A
Well, and so first, I just want to say while you're still on the line here, Jeff, that you should be praising your son for his courage and his moral conviction. The Lord will bless him for that. And there will be another place for him to play hockey. We'll help find him one if we have to. I know thousands of college athletes that are in the same position there. I'm happy to offline give you some piece of advice. So if you just email meFreedom Charlie Kirk dot com. I'm going to connect you with someone who has actually helped navigate this. Unfortunately, you don't have a lot of legal recourse here. Conservatives need to stand up for people like Jeff and his son and say that this is an overreach of power. We as conservatives like limited government because we want people to be able to live with their own natural rights, their own conscience, their own religious liberty. That is, if a corporation mandates the vaccine or if a hockey team mandates a vaccine. So this is why I am so appreciative of Governor Greg Gianforte, of Governor Greg Gianforte, who in Montana passed the law, says, you cannot do this. It's illegal. Now, if you want to take the vaccine, that is your own choice, but you are not able to use government power to go destroy some 18 year old kid's dream of playing hockey at some school in Michigan where he's not even at serious risk of catching or dying from the Chinese coronavirus. And the vaccine is 42% effective according to Axios in the month of July. The Pfizer vaccine. So what are we doing here? It's about social control and conservatives need to be willing to restrain when government gets too tyrannical and if necessary, if a corporation gets too tyrannical to derail people's livelihood. It is wrong to say that an 18 year old, oh, just go find another school to go play hockey to. It's not that easy, okay? To get recruited, to get on a team, you start to immerse yourself with those teammates. We should not cast that aside. It's an easy win for conservatives to do what they did in Montana. And I want to explore that further because I think that it's a big mistake to just kind of say to people like Jeff, oh yeah, your kid might be pro life and he doesn't want to take something that has aborted fetus. It's too bad. Go find somewhere else to go play hockey. That's not right. We need to stand up for those people.
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C
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A
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