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Ask Us Anything 241: A Path Against Mamdani? Boomer Lib Protesters? Stay at Home Moms Getting Involved?
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Charlie Kirk
My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You gotta stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Turning Point USA College chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA High School chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life. And I encourage you to do the same. Here I am, Lord.
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Caller Bob
Use me.
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Charlie Kirk
Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. The Charlie Kirk show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, but the leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends and viewers.
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Host Charlie Kirk
All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. If you are a member@members.charliekirk.com that's members.charliekirk.Com you can participate in this hour and ask us questions live on this show. And we've also got tons of emails, a ton of emails about halftime. Like, this is like the number one email topic that we get. It's like motorhead patriot. Please check with Focus on the family and Dr. Dobson's family talk. They've had multiple Christian players that were brave enough to share their whole story with the. With the audience. I'm confident they'd stand on at Super Bowl Sunday. This is a halftime show with the Turning Point team and Jason Whitlock. You guys could do your own full game coverage and halftime show without ever breaking by to the national networks. What do you think? That's great. That's from Josh. Maggie, I am definitely on board for Charlie's halftime show. I love that. Just call it Charlie's halftime show. In fact, I don't even want to watch the super bowl, which I've always enjoyed watching until the past few years when they made it political. Maybe you can do something before and after the halftime show as well. Just brainstorming, but I would rather watch a dog competition or maybe get together some of the top high school football players and they play a game. Not bad. This one's from Janet. It says, as a former San Diego longtime resident, devoted Christ follower, I vote for including Scott Turner in the show. I'm not familiar with Scott Turner. Do you know who that is Scott Turner, San Diego.
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Tyler
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Like big famous.
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Tyler
Scott Turner. Is that HUD secretary?
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Host Charlie Kirk
Oh, is that. Oh, hud. I just took a picture with him. Yeah, he's incredible. Whoops. I didn't realize. Yeah, that makes sense. He's a former athlete. Scott would be great. Love Scott. And his whole team is really great too.
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Tyler
Have him involved. We have Burgess Owens.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Yep. What about Jordan Sparks and Gladys Knight or Sparks and Jennifer Hudson? This is from Sandro. Keep the suggestions coming. Keep these suggestions coming.
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Tyler
I love that idea. Like renaming some of this with. And this is something to think about. We'll talk about this at the team. But you know, like Dick Clark's New Year's.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Oh, yeah.
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Tyler
Charlie Kirk.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Charlie Kirk.
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Tyler
Super Bowl Sunday, I guess halftime. No, I.
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Host Charlie Kirk
But yeah, the halftime.
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Tyler
Super.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Charlie Kirk's halftime.
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Tyler
Super halftime. Super All American big sports.
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Host Charlie Kirk
I love that. And Roger says, there you go. Keep brainstorming those ideas. NFL players, maybe baseball, basketball and all sports event on the true good and strong and what real patriotism and masculinity looks like. Steve says everyone will be united in changing the flicking channel on Butt Bunny Saturday. Okay. All right. Sorry, Steve, you're feisty here. And Paul says yes, yes, yes to Jason Whitlock being involved in the halftime show. Can't wait. And yes, Andrew, the excellence continues. Thank you all. I love it. Thank you guys.
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Tyler
But we've got so many. We were just talking with Erica about A.J. mcCarron.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Oh, yeah. A.J. mcCarron has been inspired by Charlie Kirks to run for lieutenant governor of Alabama. Right.
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Tyler
So you got A.J. you've got Harrison Butkirk, you got Brett Favre.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Brett Favre. Brett Favre and Charlie were close.
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Tyler
Herschel Walker, who's now Ambassador Walker.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Yeah, that's, that's. There's a lot of sports guys, because you know what Jason was talking about is that sports bring out this muscular Christianity, this muscular faith. You don't have to be a perfect person or believe that. You don't even have to be like a Christian, really. I mean, we want you to come. There's going to be worship. We're definitely going to include worship. There's going to be rock music, country music. We're going to have a smattering of these genres. But you don't have to be clean as a driven snow. We want all to come one and all and just celebrate the things that make this country great and strong. That's the whole point.
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Tyler
And we would be remiss to not talk about Antonio Brown.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Who is Antonio Brown? Would come.
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Tyler
AB. Yeah, have AB and he brought out La'Veon Bell, who was out there with us registering voters.
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Host Charlie Kirk
We should do like a whole, like, flag football game with all the. All the players we could do. We could do the softball game.
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Tyler
You know, it could be better than. We can't say the term that they use for the All Star Game that they use.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Super All Star Game.
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Tyler
Yeah, the super All Star Game. But we could do our own version.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Celebrity super.
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Tyler
No, because everybody hates that All Star Game. That. That the NFL runs the.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Yeah. I don't even know if we're.
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Tyler
I don't know if we're ought to.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Even talk about it. Held in Hawaii.
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Tyler
Yeah, that's often. Everybody hates that. We could do our own version of that, too.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Well, let's. Let's crawl before we walk. Maybe that's year two. We have Adrian. Adrian, you are calling into the Charlie Kirk show members.charliekirk.com to join. So please, you guys help us keep the lights on and help us secure our future. So please join members@charliekirk.com. adrian, what is your question?
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Caller Adrian
Good morning, gentlemen.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Good morning.
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Caller Adrian
Talk to me about this Kings rally. There's just a bunch of old people, and I say that loosely because I'm on that side of it. But why are they so unhappy? They just got a cola adjustment for their Social Security. The stock market's been great for their whole life. Basically, they own their own homes. I just don't know what they're so unhappy about.
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Host Charlie Kirk
I mean, listen, are you trying to get me in trouble again with some of our audience members? I will tell you. So I just have to take a step back because Charlie used to get infuriated about this. If he ever said anything about the over 65 crowd, he would just get blown up in the emails. And it's crazy because the people that watch this show and listen on to this show on radio and podcasting, they're the good guys. They're the ones that get it. That we love you. Obviously, we love all of you. And so. But there is a thing of certain older generations where they feel sort of like I'm not being respectful to my elders or that Charlie wasn't being respectful to the other, to his elders. I don't know what it is because, you know, I'm a millennial. Charlie was a millennial. And, you know, we have Gen Z all out in the bullpen out here, and we're used to saying good and bad things about our generations because all generations are a mix. Right? So they have different tendencies, maybe different characteristics, generation by generation. But there is a tendency to want to defend an entire generation when you get above a certain age threshold, let's just say. And I don't understand that because I have been called all kinds of nasty names my whole life for being a millennial. And Tyler, you're a millennial, as well. So we both get it. And by the way, we share those critiques, but that doesn't mean that we share those values. We're conservatives. We, you know, we hope more of our millennial brethren and sisters will become conservatives.
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Tyler
Well, what's really weird is that what we've seen is that millennials when we were younger acted like what boomers are acting like now.
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Host Charlie Kirk
You said the word when they're, when they're older. Word. I know, but I love boomers. But. But here I love boomers.
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Tyler
But this is. Boomers need to embrace this and fix it, right? Which is that millennials are fixing the problems that we had started. We had this.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Gen Z is hot.
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Tyler
We had these highly environmentalist millennials. We had all of these protest millennials. Now we're seeing protest boomers. And that's. It's a very weird thing, because you're exactly right, is that everyone that you see that's out at these rallies is like, usually an old lady.
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Host Charlie Kirk
I think what it is, for the most part. Yeah. And you get this even on the gop, where you're asking for volunteers. This is what makes Turning Point, Turning Point action. So exceptional, is because we'll do these volunteer drives for ballot chasing and things like that, and we'll get a lot of young people. So it's visually just a lot of the reporters, like, wow, this is a bunch of young people. But traditionally, you get a lot of older people because they're retired, they have time on their hands, they understand life in a bigger way, and they understand the stakes that are at play. But also, I think there is a thing, and you mentioned they got the cost of living, the stock adjustment on their Social Security, the stock market is up. I think The S&P 500 is up 36% since the tariff apocalypse. Adrian. And so, yeah, their 401ks are looking good, their retirements are looking good, they've got their homes probably all paid off, and they got time on their hands. They're retired. And here's the other thing. I think that boomers, left wing, hippie boomers, not the ones in this audience, we love you guys, but the hippie boomers, they want to relive the glory days of the 1960s and the Civil rights era and the protesting, the marching in the streets and the burning the bras and all the things. And they believe that, that the younger generation has lacked that sort of gumption, that inspiration. And they're just excited to get back out there and march against somebody they've been told is evil. Namely, that's Donald Trump. He's been called Hitler a fascist, an authoritarian, a dictator, a racist, all the things. And they go on Facebook and all their friends reinforce those lies. And so they think that they have this righteous cause. And frankly, they're the ones that have all the time. Meanwhile, the young people can't afford rent, they can't afford their food, they're depressed, they're riddled with anxiety medication, and they just can't get off the couch because what does it all mean? The nihilism has set in. Are you ready to drop up to 20 pounds or more by the new year? At PhD weight loss, they've cracked the code with their Metabolic Reset system, a science backed method that gets your body to burn fat first. The program is simple. They tell you when to eat, what to eat, and customize the program to your body's needs and your schedule. But that's not the best part. PhD is the only program that guarantees your success and your results. No starving, no endless workouts, no risky drugs. Just a smarter system that resets your metabolism, shrinks dangerous belly fat and keeps the weight off permanently.
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Caller Adrian
No, I think you really answered it. It's just really disappointing for how much they've been blessed all their lives. And instead of trying to give back and volunteer, which you talked about, and they do, but to be protesting and calling at the no Kings rally was just really disappointing. Absolutely disappointing.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Well, I mean, it was, you know, and by the way, you're absolutely right. But you have, you gotta understand, their peers are egging them on. Like, show this picture. This is George Conway, 92, and he's wearing a shirt that says I am antifa. And yeah, that's a man that is a biological male. Despite maybe the confusion that's setting in with our audience because he, by the way, this shows how out of touch he is. He's never been surrounded by a bunch of black bloc rioters, antagonists in the streets. He's never seen that. He's never been punched in the face or had a cement milkshake thrown at his head like Andy Ngo. He's never gone face to face with them like Jack Posobic. Charlie was attacked by antifa all the time. And so this is what they're hearing. I am antifa. They think it just means anti fascist. And Trump is a fascist. Why is Trump a fascist? Well, they can't ever really explain it. That's the thing. I dare any liberal watching this, and there are a few. Send us an email. Freedom charliekirk.com Explain to me how Trump is a fascist. Explain to me and I will give you 10x the examples. Back in your face. I'll explain why you're wrong, first of all, and I'll give you 10x examples back at you of how Joe Biden and the Democrats literally became an authoritarian fascist regime against conservatives. And it kind of goes back to this example that we have with Letitia James where she is claiming victim status because she's being prosecuted for mortgage fraud and bank fraud. And she is the poster child of weaponizing the justice system against her political rivals, namely President Trump. That's what she ran on. She is the exact wrong person to be giving this message. And yet we saw in those clips, she's got people out in the streets cheering her on, saying, you go girl, go Leticia. And so it's a bit of cognitive dissonance and it's a bit of reliving the glory days. They are stuck in a Facebook algorithm where all their buddies are just feeding them slop and AI slope and they just want to go back to the bra burning days when they were the righteous youth and they could still feel it and gives them something to live for. And that'll be the last point I make, is that they are not probably going to church and this is their church, this is their form of worship. Because we all have a God shaped hole in our heart and we want something to fill it. And if it's not God, it'll be secular humanism or whatever. Tyler, you have any other thoughts on that? Really quick, just be careful, don't poke the bear.
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Tyler
I think you hit it right, which is just like we've seen this revival of 60s style baby boomers who are now bored and agitated the left wing and the right wing baby boomers now, this is their chance to step up and counter that.
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Host Charlie Kirk
That's a great note. If you're a right wing baby boomer, which we have some of those in our audience, please don't send me nasty grams on email. I love you. We love you guys. We need you guys to step forward. We need, we need you guys to get in the, in the, into the breach.
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Tyler
There's a way to explain this. And it's not just baby boomers. It's, it's, it's Gen X. It's my parents. My parents are, are Gen X. Yeah, they're, they're older Gen X. And so they never, they had a lifestyle. I mean they came up through the dot com boom and they made all their money doing that and all of that and they're basically becoming retirees and they've never had to do any political activism before. And I know this because again, my parents were some of these people. They, their whole lives, they never were actively politically and active politically. And now they're learning that for the first time. And so this is the opportunity for those Gen Xers and to combat and learn. In addition to the baby boomers who are now retired, if you've never done any political activism, you can learn that here with us at Turning Point Action. At Turning Point, you can follow the lead. You can work with our young people who are doing a really good job at it and we're happy to work all together to basically combat all the craziness that we're seeing out of the no Kings rallies.
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Host Charlie Kirk
I totally agree. And we get a lot of these emails, especially in the wake of Charlie's assassination. We want to start chapters of Turning Point. But we're not students, we're parents, we're grandparents. How do you do that? We already have them. It's called Coalitions at Turning Point Action. So if you are not a Student. The mission is get involved politically, download the app and start making calls and sending texts. Brianna, we have Brianna, please unmute yourself. You are now part of the Charlie Kirk Show. Hey.
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Caller Adrian
So I go to a Christian law school. I'm in a lot of Christian circles. And one of the most common things.
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Caller Elizabeth
I find in these circles is the.
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Caller Adrian
Idea of Third Wayism. And I'm just curious, what is the best response to that?
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Host Charlie Kirk
Yeah, no, we talked about that with Megan Basham yesterday, actually, just about how pervasive Third Wayism is. And it's basically for those in the audience that need a little brush up on it. It's saying, we don't want, we're Christians, we don't want to be left, we don't want to be right, we don't want to be divisive. We're going to just preach the gospel. And it's a new way of saying an old thing. Right. Because we saw that that was essentially what turning point or TPUSA faith was launched to combat. Right? Because when we saw this in Covid, there was no third way in Covid. So this is what happens when tyrannical governments get their way and they say, you're not allowed to meet anymore because we have a pandemic. And you're going to spread the pandemic. And in your church gatherings, if you do not become political in your theology, politics will become theological. It will invade your religious space.
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Tyler
And I want to use the Barry Goldwater quotes. This is the perfect opportunity to use the Barry Goldwater quote for this. Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Say it again slow.
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Tyler
Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. So Barry Goldwater was famous for saying this and what the background meaning of this. And I'll change in defense of liberty, but let's change it to in the defense of moral liberty and in defense of God and righteousness. Extremism is the villainization of the defense of all that is good by the left. So this happens quite frequently in society where they will actually villainize all Christians.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Right.
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Tyler
We hear this term Christian nationalism. Now, they will almost always call you an extremist anytime that you stand up for God, anytime that you stand up for Jesus, anytime that you vocalize your religious beliefs. That's why we always talk about politics being downstream from culture. And your culture is your religious beliefs. You cannot live in a society where you say, I'm not going to be left or right, I'm going to just be focused on my faith. Because again, your politics come from Whatever your faith is and your defense of those beliefs is going to always be called extremism. That's why the embracing, again, this Barry Goldwater quote, extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, is that we have to stand for what's right no matter what. There is no fence sitting. And you're always going to be called left. You're always gonna call left or right by the opposition, depending upon where you're. And for us, we're always going to be called super right wing, super extremist for holding those very basic biblical beliefs well.
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Host Charlie Kirk
And that's what I would say as well, is that you have to pick a side. And I'm telling you, the politics will become theological. Would you have even imagined a few years ago that we would be calling boys girls and girls boys? Well, this is a real thing. That is a theological argument because the Bible tells us that he made them male and female. And that's very binary. And then all of a sudden the academy comes in and says, well, no, we've defined a few other categories of people. And by the way, you don't get to choose anymore. We're gonna force this and coerce this upon you and your kids. And you don't even just have to accept it as a subcategory. We're gonna force your participation in it because we're gonna send boys into the girls locker room and we're gonna send boys onto the sports field. That is a theological argument they are making from a secular position that is invading a moral position and it's invading our politics. So you may not want to be political, you may not want to pick a side, you may not want to be divisive, but I would challenge those people that are like that. Do you fear God or do you fear man?
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Tyler
And your point, Andrew, is really good, which is that social justice is at the epicenter of Third Wayism. And by your fruits you shall know them. What has been the outcome of social justice mentality? And it's exactly what you just said, which is the end result of this, has been putting men in girls bathrooms.
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Host Charlie Kirk
And it's justifying abortions, it's justifying divorce, it's justifying all kinds of societal ills that ultimately peel apart the foundations of our culture and the goodness and the truth and the beauty of our culture. We one by one by one. And so if you're not gonna pick a side on that, I would just challenge you and say, look at the life that Charlie Kirk lived. He lived boldly. He confronted evil and he proclaimed the truth and he was killed for it. And he sparked a revival because he lived fearlessly and boldly. That's the model. When we started the Charlie Kirk show, we knew that we needed to have a back end team that could really run our online store. And that's why we we turned to Shopify. We didn't know where to start, we didn't know what we were doing. But we knew that the folks at Shopify could help us out and they certainly have. That's where we run all of our merch sales and everything else that you can get at the charliekirkstore.com@charliekirkstore.com it's an amazing partnership and I can tell you.
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Charlie Kirk
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Tyler
I've been through it a bunch of times, so people can. I'll give you the opportunity because I don't think people have really heard your story before.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Well, you know, we were talking about. I'm really sad about this. I can't. It's like I placed at first. I have so many Charlie memories. I can't. Fully placed the first one. I remember the first phone call. And I think the first time I met Charlie was when he traveled through Los Angeles, because I was actually working in LA at the time, and I think we met at this hotel, like at a restaurant, I think. But anyways, one of the guys I was working with met him in. At an event in Florida. And I was working at an agency, a communication shop, and I ended up. I don't know what it was. Actually, it does stand out for this reason because the guy I was working with said, hey, you should pursue him to become, you know, to make Turning Point a client. Because I was part of an agency at the time. And I. I just kind of doggedly kept emailing him, being like, hey, hey. And he's like, no, not yet. We don't need this yet. We don't need this yet. And then eventually he's like, hey, I'm going to be in la. I think is what I thought about this, because Tyler and I actually talked about this last night. And I don't know, I never did that with anybody. And you gotta remember, Charlie was, like, way smaller than he became. I think he had like couple hundred thousand followers on Twitter.
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Tyler
We had. I mean, it was still super, very early.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Yeah, I just got really dogged about pursuing Charlie and I just kept emailing him. He's like, okay. And he called me and then he's like, let's meet in la. I'm gonna be there, like, next week. I think that's how it happened. And then the rest is history. And we just kept. We just kept it going, kept building. Janet says no whining and complaining. This boomer loves you. I am super thankful for Charlie and the whole TPUSA team. You rock Boomers at no Kings is from Alexander. Some of these boomers attending the rallies are probably retired and doing this for extra income. That's a good point. That's a really good point. Oh, my gosh, there's so many. Good, good one. This is. Jenny says a true Christian must take a biblical stand for truth and morals. Too many people don't understand the importance of speaking up. You cannot be lukewarm and be a follower of Christ. I totally, totally agree. So let's get to Elizabeth here. Elizabeth, please unmute yourself. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
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Caller Elizabeth
Hi, guys. Thank you so much for taking my call.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Of course.
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Caller Elizabeth
Also, one more thing before I begin the shame segment. You need to make that weekly. It's the best thing ever.
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Host Charlie Kirk
We will, don't worry. But I like when Mikey's here. It was Mikey's idea, I think, and Danny's and maybe Daisy had something to do with it too. But I love it. And so Mikey is traveling this week, but we will be doing that often. So thank you.
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Caller Elizabeth
Awesome. So my question, or maybe more of a comment, is this New York City mayoral race. They had a primary. Cuomo lost in the primary. Cuomo has no business being in there. He murdered 15,000 senior citizens in the nursing homes. He should be in prison for mass murder along with a few other governors in the blue states. But I can defend Sliwa. Everybody was pretending to work at McDonald's. Donald Trump went to work at a McDonald's on his campaign. And Curtis Fluore was actually a McDonald's manager in 1979. And the reason he started Guardians Angels was because the city was a complete crime ridden disaster. He organized groups of people to monitor the subways in groups of eight. He actually became an international organization. Mario Cuomo actually endorsed his work back in the late 80s when it was still under Dinkins. So he has been able to build coalitions. He has been able to build his organization into something international. He hasn't murdered 15,000 people. He's not a communist. And the biggest lesson we can learn here is voting blue no matter who got you? The Democratic Socialist Party, who are communists. So if they want to save the city, you need to vote Republican.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Yeah, I mean, I don't disagree with your critiques of Andrew Cuomo at all. I think he's done a terrible job trying to convince Republicans why they should even consider voting for him. And I mean, that is the trick, right? And so you've got three players here. Mamdani is winning with immigrants. He is at 46% ish, maybe even higher. He is a slick talker. And people are just trying to figure out, how are you gonna keep this communist from becoming the mayor of one of the most important cities in the world. And the financial capital of the west, really, along with London. And so I get why people are confused on this, because they look at sliwa. He's got 15%. Cuomo's got 33%. So they're just kind of like, hey, who can win? Can anybody win? And the fact that Cuomo is not gonna completely destroy the financial system, he's not good. I don't agree with him. And you're totally right. He handled Covid terribly, and a lot of elderly people died as a result of that. Would it classify as murder? I have to look into the details there. I'm a little foggy on remembering, but, yeah, a lot of people believe that he was murdered.
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Caller Elizabeth
He was told, don't do it any day. Thousands of people will die. He wrote a bill that you can't sue the nursing homes.
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Host Charlie Kirk
And then I do remember that.
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Caller Elizabeth
Yes, positive patients into the nursing homes. Then they lied about the numbers, and they didn't admit to what they did until about June. And don't forget he was writing a book for $5 million while he was doing all this.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Yeah, no, I totally agree. I totally agree. Cuomo also has a big rap sheet when it comes to sexual assault, and Sliwa keeps. I mean, in the first debate, at least, Sliwa spent most of his time attacking Andrew Cuomo. And I kind of kept going like, well, you guys both need to take Mamdani down if you're gonna get any progress here. But I totally agree. Cuomo has not given enough of a sales pitch to conservatives. He's given them nothing. I sort of understand the conundrum. There's folks online like Mike Cernovich who completely agree with you and are basically saying, I'm never voting for that Democrat. He's never done anything for me. He's never done anything for conservatives. I think the best argument for Cuomo's position is that he's not Mamdani. That is literally the best sales point. And Mamdani is going to be. I mean, he's going to destroy that city in many ways. And the question is then going to become, can the city ever recover?
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Caller Elizabeth
Yes, it can, and I'll tell you how.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Okay.
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Caller Elizabeth
If we somehow manage to pull a city rallywood in New Jersey, hopefully that momentum can go into next year and we can get a Republican governor. A Republican governor can remove the New York City mayor. It takes some wiggle waggling and some legal, but it can be done.
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Host Charlie Kirk
I mean, good luck in a state that's controlled. I mean, yeah, you might have the governor's mansion, but you're not necessarily going to have anything else besides that. And so it's always going to be tricky. I mean, if you don't have the legislature and you don't have the judges and, I mean, you don't have the.
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Caller Elizabeth
City council, they don't need the legislature. They can do it themselves. They just need to go through a legal process.
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Host Charlie Kirk
All right. Well, I mean, that's interesting. You know more about that than I do. It sounds like you're, you're a proud New Yorker or maybe, maybe you're in Jersey. I don't know where you based. Adam.
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Caller Elizabeth
I would say I'm a New Yorker, but not proud. And I would also. He murdered my dad in his nursing home. We were denied funerals. You were denied goodbyes. I'm sorry. Thank you. They did the same exact thing in Pennsylvania. Remember that? Rachel Levine, admiral, health official in the federal. The trends. That's night.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Yeah. Dick, you know that they did the.
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Caller Elizabeth
Same thing in Pennsylvania. Yeah. Dick Levine took his mother out of the nursing home and put her in a hotel. The day before. They put positive COVID positive patients in nursing homes there, and their death toll was something like 9,000. This went across four states of mass murder.
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Host Charlie Kirk
The DOJ really needs to do something about this. I love that you're getting into this and you're reminding us of it, Elizabeth, because there are so many things that happened during COVID that are wrong morally on so many levels, and they probably are wrong legally. And so listen, I would love for Sliwa to win. I don't think he's necessarily a very compelling candidate when it comes to speaking and just galvanizing people. He's polling really low. I wish Donald Trump can send Andrew.
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Caller Elizabeth
Giuliani there to help him.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Well, good. No. And I wish for the best for Sliwa. He's certainly the best choice of the three. Godspeed to our friends in New York. But something's got to give or you got Mom. Donnie. That's. That's the choice. That's the, that's the truth. Thank you so much. We've got to go to David. David next.
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Caller David
Thank you very much for doing what you're doing. I'm sorry. Sorry for your loss.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Thank you.
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Caller David
We're in. We're in. We're in Southern California and we, you know, piggybacking off what the other lady was saying. Our legislature does not listen to the people, and we're trying to figure out how to remove our legislature and educate our masses in California.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Well, you got that Prop 50 going on in California too.
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Caller David
Yes.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Which, you know, they're trying to redraw the lines to basically fight Texas and maybe Indiana, although Indiana is a whole other story.
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Caller David
And we have nothing to do with Texas.
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Host Charlie Kirk
We have nothing to do with Texas, of course. But yeah, that's their justification that they're doing it because, you know, we're tyrants and we're trying to redistrict midstream in between census. By the way, the census was completely botched, which is a. It was a whole other. I mean, it's a completely rigged census during COVID It is illegitimate and should be redrawn and we would get like 10 to 12, maybe even more congressional seats.
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Tyler
I was just reviewing the numbers. I want to make this super, super clear for everyone. I was just reviewing the numbers this morning. The latest projections are that the Democrats are going to probably lose upwards of 15, 16 seats in Congress if they redid the census in the next census. So redoing the census earlier means that they're going to lose at least almost a majority of those. So. Because what Andrew just said is exactly right. The census in 2020 was so manipulated, so botched, so intentionally drug. Nobody was paying attention. Everyone was running around like chickens with their heads cut off because of COVID worried about their family. Like this poor lady that just got off the phone with us that she was losing her family members that they couldn't even let her see.
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Host Charlie Kirk
She couldn't say goodbye to it.
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Tyler
Nobody was paying attention to, you know, these leftist operators who were trying to manipulate the congressional apportionment. This is really bad for Democrats. And so they have to almost do this right now in California to try to get ahead of how bad it's going to be ahead of 2030.
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Caller David
It just seems like our legislature and most legislatures, we don't know who the authors are, we don't know who their names are, and they seem to hide behind their bad bills. So I'm trying to find out. So I'm trying to put together this. This person wrote this bad bill so we can educate the people who these idiots are. Oh, I'm sorry, I called them idiot.
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Host Charlie Kirk
I mean, I think that's a fine word to use. They are idiots. But, you know, one of the publications I follow is California Globe. And then there are other good grassroots resources and they tend to be issue by issue in California. So if it's the gender stuff, there's going to be activists that are working on that. Jack Hibbs is another good resource for you, and he puts out voter guides. But by the way, when you're talking about just authorship of bills, they do have to include an author on the bill still, even at the state level. So I know that because we were tracking down some of that with the recent bill that was making its way through the California assembly. And that was the bill where they basically you could assign somebody to come pick up your kid if your parents got detained by ice. But it essentially left the door open for people to have their kids kidnapped. I mean, it was basically unenforceable the way it was. Jack Gibbs got really on that. Yeah, exactly. And so that was a bill that had an author. We did a whole segment on who that author was and she was a far left radical. But just in terms of responsiveness, I mean it is a tough road of hope for you guys in California because you are, this is just, it's a self selecting process in a lot of ways. So what happens is you see this in different professions like teaching, you see it in journalism, you see it in politics, especially left wing, far left radical politics where they self select themselves into these activist professions. Whereas conservatives tend to build their business, build their family, build their church, build their community. Radical leftists like to get into the teaching profession, they like to get into the journalist profession, they like to get into the political profession because that is their God, that is their church, that is their reason for being. And so you have, especially in places like the Bay Area, these are radical, radical activists that get into politics by getting in at the lowest levels, rise through the ranks and the most radical ones win. And then they put a sheen of legitimacy on them and moderation before they announce. They scrub their socials and then they come out and you're like, oh, this person is really buttoned up and it's good. They do not care what a conservative in Southern California thinks about them. If they are a radical leftist from the Bay Area, they just simply don't. And so it's just getting more and more and more radical in places like California. But the grassroots is rising up. There is hope. We truly are living in a historic time. After 738 days, the 20 living Israeli hostages have been released from captivity. And those who were killed will finally rest in peace near their loved ones. Praise God. In this time of celebration, our good friends at the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews send their deepest gratitude for your prayers and unwavering support. Thanks to you. The fellowship has provided $300 million in emergency aid since Oct. 7, including millions in direct support for the hostages and their families. Of course, the road ahead is still a long one. Much needs to be done to restore and revive these victims of terrorism. But that's exactly what the Fellowship does. For example, they're assisting returned hostages, along with their families and friends, with immediate medical, psychological and financial support. They're also providing mental health care for Israelis of all ages. To find out how you can help, visit ifcj.org that's ifcj.org We've got Bob. Remember, if you want to be a part of these, go to members.charliekirk.com you guys mean the world to us. You help keep the lights on, help us keep our staff employed and all those good things. Members.charliekirk.com Bob, what's your question?
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Caller Bob
Hey, guys, thanks for all your work.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Thank you.
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Caller Bob
The U.S. naturalization Oath, which prospective citizens are legally required to swear by, also requires an applicant, among other points, to agree. I hereby declare an oath that I absolutely, entirely renounce all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state or sovereignty, all of which have heretofore been subject to. So I have two questions here, if you could, related to this case. Could you comment on these? Number one, is it accurate to say that an honest Muslim applicant could not take this oath and therefore could not become a citizen? That's my first question. And the follow up, does this renunciation of fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state or sovereignty apply to Catholic allegiance to the Pope or the Catholic Church?
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Host Charlie Kirk
No, I would say. Let me answer your second one first. So the Bible is very clear. It says, render unto Caesar what is Caesar's. And so baked into the Catholic faith is an understanding that we have earthly powers and principalities. Earthly powers. Let's not get into principalities. So we have earthly powers that are set up that God has established the rulers of this world. And so there is not a moral issue or a conflict with honoring your national sovereign as well as your your heavenly sovereign, which is Jesus and God the Father. That being said, we have examples in the New Testament, especially the Book of Acts, where they are the the apostles are asked to do things that are contrary to their faith and those can cause conflicts. That's why it's important for Christians to be involved in the public spaces and in your government, your local school boards, all those things. Because if good godly men and women are leading your culture and your society and your government, then you are going to avoid those conflicts. You're going to avoid issues like religious freedom, conflicts that come up and that end up getting litigated in the courts when bad decisions are made by bad leaders. And so, no, if Christians, we should flood the public square, we should get in positions of power and influence so that those conflicts do not arise. And there are instances in the New Testament, like I said in the book of Acts, that mean we have to then defy the authorities. And sometimes you will be thrown in prison. This is why the scripture said, visit your brothers who are in prison. Right? So, yeah, there is no issue on number two. Now, if you're asking about an honest Muslim, I would say yeah. Guess what? You know, it's an interesting thing is the Muslims have to pray five times a day to the east, to Mecca. And they are basically saying that their allegiance is to Mecca and they are a conquering force. That is a conquering religion. It is a political religion. And so I would say an honest Muslim is going to have a very difficult time claiming allegiance to a country that is not predominantly Muslim. Which is why I always say there are 50 Muslim majority, plus there's more than 50 Muslim majority countries in the world. If you want to move and you're a Muslim, you want to immigrate somewhere, don't do it to the west because you are basically picking a fight with the west every time you do that. Now, I can understand if there's a small minority that are doing it for some sort of job or whatever, but this mass invasion into the west, you get this Dearborns, these epic cities, you can see London. I believe that you cannot do both. I'm gonna get to one more question here. Thank you so much, Bob.
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Tyler
Can it be codified?
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Host Charlie Kirk
Can it be codified? Well, that's gonna take a lot more political courage than we currently have, Bob. But at the state level, they're getting rid of the Tuberville's got this anti Sharia law bill and many other things. So yeah, it's gonna be tough, Bob. I'm not gonna lie. It takes too much political courage. We don't have it right now, but I'm with you 1000%. I think we can deal with the immigration part of it before we can deal with the codification of a naturalization situation.
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Caller Bob
I agree with you. What you're saying about Christians being involved. Is there a difference there with Catholics and the Pope?
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Host Charlie Kirk
Yes, there is. Yes. Yes, there is. I tried to explain that. I wanna get to Natalie. Bob, I'm so sorry, but you go ahead. Yeah. Natalie, what's your question? Thank you, Bob. Natalie, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
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Caller Natalie
Hey, guys, thank you so much. So I'm a mom of four boys and they're between the ages of seven and 15 and I used to own a gym and we were business owners and then that got shut down during COVID and so I became a stay at home mom. So I've been a stay at home mom for several years now. So I just wanted to know what advice you have for moms kind of in this stage of life where their kids are getting a little older. Obviously I have a drive to do more outside of the home. So I'm super involved in the kids school. I run the ptso, we have a non profit for youth tackle. But I would love to just hear what you guys have for moms in this stage of life.
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Host Charlie Kirk
This feels like a Tyler question, Natalie.
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Tyler
I mean, it's a great question. There's a couple of things that you can do right away. Number one is have an eye focused on how you want to contribute yourself personally to civic engagement. Meaning what? Are you willing to run for office? Are you willing to get involved with the local party? The Republican Party in most places is in desperate need of normal, sane people who work really hard and care about their kids. And so getting involved there, becoming a precinct leader, a precinct captain, if you're not already, we always encourage that. It's a little bit of a, of a, you know, catch 22 situation because we want people to get involved, but we also don't want people to get overly absorbed and kind of upset because, you know, the party can sometimes be a disaster where you are, you're at. That's why I say run for, potentially run for office. But at Turning Point Action, we will get you involved with our coalitions. I don't know. What state are you in?
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Caller Natalie
I'm in Arizona.
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Tyler
Oh, you're here in Arizona.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Perfect.
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Tyler
Here in Arizona, at coalitions.com if you sign up, you can be part of our mom's coalition and help organize. And that's a really nice thing because it's flexibility. You don't have to dedicate, you know, dozens of hours, you know, every month to, to be part of that. You can dedicate a few hours here and there to be involved locally, but that across the state will help kind of, you know, develop that, that network that helps you organize ahead of the next election.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Yeah. You know what's crazy too is, Natalie, that when I have done like local GOP stuff, you will be shocked at just how dysfunctional a lot of it is. And I remember calling Tyler after a certain meeting. I was like, whoa, this happened? This happened. They were all fighting, and he was like, oh, yeah, that's every single one. So normal, sane people, if you're gonna step in on a local GOP level, it's so important. What I just said is not an excuse not to do it. It's a reason to do it. So if you're normal and you're sane and you have people skills, they need you. They need you. And especially if you're listening to shows like this and you're listening to guys like Tyler about Turning Point Action, how to connect those local GOP levels to a larger network to get people all swimming in the same direction. And we can get you resources, we get you the app, we can train you up on this stuff. Then it starts becoming really powerful. And to your. To Tyler's other point where he's saying, are you willing to run for office? Are you willing to run for school board? These kind of things. Your kids will look at you as the example, and they will see the life that you're living and the example you're leading and showing them, and they will follow. Faith and political activism is caught, not taught. So let me say that again. Faith in Jesus, faith in your God, the way you love your husband, whatever it is. Or your political activism is caught, not taught. So you could tell them to do all the right things, and it'll go in one ear and out the other. But if you show them and you model that for them, then your sons will emulate your behavior. They will emulate the model that you present for them. So I would just encourage you to just do it. Don't let perfect be the reason. You don't start with the good. Right? Don't let perfect be the enemy of the good. So just start. Start somewhere. Just get going now.
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Tyler
Well, and I have a question for you, Natalie. What interests you the most in politics?
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Caller Natalie
Oh, gosh. I'm probably one of the least political people you'll meet. So I am like a baby when it comes to politics, which I think is kind of like, on the flip side, a beautiful thing, Right? Because I don't know the ins and outs, and I just am a good human, a Christian woman. So, yeah, I don't know how really to answer that question.
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Tyler
Yeah, I mean, a lot of people feel that way, right? And that's actually most of the people that we engage are people who don't feel like they're overly political. But listen, and they follow and they. They love and care about their kids, and they love and care about their community and seeing the things that Happen around them, particularly at school and in schools. Because again, I don't know where, if you mentioned this, where your kids are in school right now. Are they in public charter?
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Caller Natalie
Yeah, they're in public school.
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Tyler
Okay. Public.
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Caller Natalie
Yeah, they're public. Which we actually, we, we love. Cause we, I, you know, there's arguments to all of it, but we feel that we have such a strong home that we can take that out into the public schools and be good examples.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Well, if God's calling you to that, God bless you.
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Tyler
Well, and again, it's, it's different for everybody. So there's. Sometimes there's not options and sometimes there's, you're going to have a great public school experience because the community, and this goes back to what you were saying, which is that the party, your community is whoever shows up. So like, it's like a real party sometimes you can have a weird funky party with bad music and bad food because. And bad people show up, good people show up with great music and great food. And so, you know, that's the same with your community aspects. So whether it's public school or charter schools, because they're, you know, pseudo public in Arizona and then with the actual party, so the Republican Party being involved and showing up is so important. So I really, I'm my oldest in public school and you know, we've been horrified even at a fairly conservative public school. Some of the things that have happened at that public school, including hanging pride flags in classrooms and you know, some of the things that teachers have said or telling kids to flip their freedom shirts inside out or whatever it might be. So being involved at that level is really a way to start being really super political, I can tell you this, is that we need better school board members at every public school board. And so getting involved and spending just a few hours every month attending their meetings and giving some support to the conservative members on that school board and then considering running at some point, maybe calling for you, that I think is really important, and that's for everyone across the country, is that we need better parents stepping up to run for school board.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Well, and by the way, you have a 13 year old, so we're not in middle schools yet, but your 13 year old's probably going to be in high school school next year. Is that right? Freshman in high school?
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Caller Natalie
Yeah, so actually I do. I have one in high school. He's a freshman.
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Host Charlie Kirk
Oh, perfect. Well, so make sure there's a turning point chapter there. And if there isn't, then help your son start it. Be great. Yeah, that would be another good thing. And you'll get connected to our whole national network on the TPUSA side. But here's my last thing. I'll leave you, and we'll wrap up the show with this. Do not let decision paralysis analysis paralysis of what's the best thing to do set in and keep you from doing anything. Just step forward. Try the first thing. You cannot turn a parked car. You can only turn a moving car. So get moving. Pick a route. It may or may not be great. If it's not, pick the next thing. Try the next thing. Eventually, you're gonna find the thing that works and suits you, and you're gonna find a lot of purpose in that. And your sons are gonna watch a great example and have a great role model for how to make their communities a better place.
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Caller Natalie
Awesome. Thank you guys so much.
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Host Charlie Kirk
I appreciate it. Thanks, Natalie. All right. God bless you. For more on many of these stories and news you can Trust, go to charliekirk.com.