Ask Us Anything 242: Tucker and Fuentes? Britain in Decline? California's Prop 50?

Summary

The Charlie Kirk Show

Episode: Ask Us Anything 242: Tucker and Fuentes? Britain in Decline? California's Prop 50?
Date: November 3, 2025
Host: Charlie Kirk
Co-hosts: Blake, Mikey, and Michael

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Overview

This “Ask Us Anything” episode centers on grassroots conservative activism in America, listener questions on political strategy, education policy, and religion, as well as in-depth commentary on trending current events. Charlie Kirk and his team field questions on GOP redistricting, Tucker Carlson’s controversial interview with Nick Fuentes, the decline of Britain in the wake of mass immigration, the fight over California's Proposition 50, and the cultural controversy surrounding Halloween. Throughout, the show maintains its trademark combative, faith-centered, and unapologetically conservative tone.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ohio Redistricting and the GOP Landscape

Timestamp: 01:09–05:09

• Background: Ohio's new redistricting plan—supported by Governor DeWine—could shift control of congressional seats toward the Republicans (potentially 12 out of 15 seats).

• Turning Point USA (TPUSA) Role: Charlie pledges that TPUSA will back efforts beneficial to conservative causes in Ohio and will coordinate with Tyler Boyer from Turning Point Action for active support. He emphasizes that the process is complex, involving legal and electoral battles over multiple years.

• Gubernatorial Race: Vivek (presumed to be Vivek Ramaswamy) is seen as a frontrunner for the GOP nomination. While Charlie has personally endorsed Vivek, the organization hasn’t made a formal endorsement.

  "I think Vivek's going to end up running away with the nomination and the governorship in Ohio. That's just my personal opinion." — Charlie Kirk (03:17)

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2. Democratic Shutdown & Grassroots Pressure Campaigns

Timestamp: 05:28–08:15

• Government Shutdown: Listener Christine suggests using TPUSA’s platform to pressure moderate Democratic senators to end a prolonged Democratic-driven government shutdown.

• Team Response: The crew is skeptical but open to strategic activism, noting resource constraints and the necessity to choose battles wisely. Charlie thinks Democrats may have already maximized their political gain from the shutdown, warning of unpredictable outcomes.

  "We have to be prudent about the way we deploy resources and money is finite and so we just have to be good stewards of that... this is not our main focus, if I’m being candid with you." — Charlie Kirk (06:25)

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3. North Carolina Senate Races and State Activism

Timestamp: 08:15–11:15

• Political Shifts: North Carolina remains a battleground ("light red, pink"), with frequent swings between major parties.
• Candidate Focus: Michael Whatley, former RNC chair and Trump-endorsed candidate, is expected to gather conservative support.
• Resource Allocation: While supportive, TPUSA underlines the difficulty in prioritizing resources amid numerous requests.

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4. Cultural Controversy: Halloween & Christian Perspectives

Timestamp: 11:47–13:43, 29:01–34:12

• Light-hearted but heated debate: The hosts jest about the acceptability of Halloween. Charlie, formerly opposed for religious reasons, now embraces a family-friendly middle ground—allowing costumes and trick-or-treating, as long as it’s not occult-related.

• Listener Feedback: The audience is equally split, with strong opinions both for and against Halloween. Some emphasize the holiday’s pagan or potentially harmful spirituality, while others cherish nostalgic family memories.

  "I feel like I have carved out a nice middle ground where I’m saying princesses and ninja costumes—good. And creepy stuff, not so good." — Charlie Kirk (33:19)

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5. Campus Activism: Barriers at Private/Jewish Schools

Timestamp: 13:34–17:22

• Case Study: Anthony, an alumnus of McQuaid Jesuit High School in Rochester, NY, explains student efforts to start a TPUSA chapter have been blocked by the principal despite strong student and some staff support—with hints of faculty intimidation.

• Host Advice: Charlie and team express outrage and offer support, encouraging persistent pressure and national spotlight to overcome administrative resistance.

  "We totally have your back. And I think we should probably blow this up more. A little bit more." — Charlie Kirk (16:01)

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6. Tucker Carlson’s Interview of Nick Fuentes: Platforming Controversy

Timestamp: 18:28–23:26

• Listener Concern: Dennis/Katie asks for reaction to Tucker Carlson interviewing Nick Fuentes, known for harsh rhetoric against Charlie and his wife, and for anti-Semitic statements.

• Nuanced Discussion: The team reaffirms their general opposition to “moral blackmail” (banning people preemptively), but voices disappointment with Tucker for conducting a “very friendly” interview without sufficiently challenging Fuentes’ more radical views or attacks.

• Balance: Despite reservations, they resist calls to “cancel” Tucker, emphasizing Charlie’s support for principled open debate but wishing Tucker had defended Charlie and addressed Fuentes’ past remarks more directly.

  "You can be disappointed with the way the interview was conducted, but you can also realize that… we all have relationships with Tucker as well. He’s always been nothing but incredibly kind to me and to Blake." — Charlie Kirk (23:26)
  "It’s perfectly fine to say I am an open platform who will interview and speak with anyone. But what we did get is we did get what was a very friendly interview… There was not much effort to bring up a lot of the reasons people do dislike him." — Blake (19:53)

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7. Britain's Decline: Immigration and Cultural Change

Timestamp: 23:52–28:12

• Firsthand Accounts: Blake and Mikey recount their time in London—describing drastic changes due to immigration: Arabic signage, TV dominated by Middle Eastern languages, churches converted to mosques, and cultural tension.

• Sociopolitical Implications: They lament a perceived loss of British identity, arguing these changes are not genuine assimilation but amount to “ongoing cultural conquest.”

• Religious Reference: Charlie cites Deuteronomy 28:43 (“Foreigners… will gain more and more power while you gradually lose yours”) as prophetic of Britain’s fate.

  "You could really feel like you were in a country that had been… that is being kind of taken over, being culturally converted." — Blake (25:55)
  "Deuteronomy 28:43. Foreigners who live in your land will gain more and more power while you gradually lose yours." — Charlie Kirk (28:25)

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8. California’s Prop 50: Power Politics & Redistricting Fights

Timestamp: 34:27–36:49

• Listener Question: Carol, a Californian, seeks strategic help against Prop 50, which was designed to undermine the state’s independent redistricting commission, threatening to entrench Democrat power even against substantial Trump GOP support.

• Host Response: Charlie agrees Prop 50 is an “abomination,” promises to bring on Steve Hilton to discuss the issue, and underscores the broader challenge—fair representation in deep blue states despite significant conservative minorities.

  "Prop 50 is going to pass. It’s a complete abomination… They’re going against a referendum vote that created an independent commission to district the state… independent commissions are not foolproof either." — Charlie Kirk (35:26)

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9. Welfare & SNAP Abuse: Fixing the System

Timestamp: 37:13–38:19

• Welfare Critique: Greg calls in about widespread SNAP/EBT system abuse and the host team rails against pandemic-era “massive waste” in government assistance, suggesting stricter eligibility and reform. Blake proposes attaching rule changes to any legislative filibuster talks.

  "There’s this feeding frenzy where people are practically looting every government program in existence. We’ve got to buckle down… or we're actually going to go totally bankrupt as a country." — Blake (37:29)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Moral Blackmail (Tucker & Fuentes):

  • "Charlie was always very anti what he would call moral blackmail… If you were going to say, you can’t have this person there, that made him more likely to want them there." — Blake (19:23)

• On Halloween Culture Wars:

  • "I have carved out a nice middle ground where I’m saying princesses and ninja costumes—good. And creepy stuff, not so good." — Charlie Kirk (33:19)

• On Britain’s Future:

  • "You could really feel like you were in a country… being culturally converted… This is not assimilation. This is… ongoing cultural conquest of the UK." — Blake (25:55, 28:12)

• On Redistricting Politics:

  • "We are supportive of the redistricting… To the extent that Turning Point actually could be helpful, we 1000% want to be and we can get you more answers on exactly how that might look." — Charlie Kirk (02:04)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Ohio Redistricting & GOP Campaigns: 01:09–05:09
• Shutdown Politics & Grassroots Action: 05:28–08:15
• North Carolina Senate Race: 08:15–11:15
• Halloween Debate & Listener Emails: 11:47–13:43, 29:01–34:12
• Private School TPUSA Chapter Battle: 13:34–17:22
• Tucker Carlson/Nick Fuentes Interview Analysis: 18:28–23:26
• Britain’s Immigration Issues: 23:52–28:12
• California Proposition 50: 34:27–36:49
• Welfare/SNAP Abuse Discussion: 37:13–38:19

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Tone & Closing Thoughts

True to The Charlie Kirk Show’s style, the episode mixes straight political commentary with culture war criticism, faith-forward advice, and listener interaction. The hosts reaffirm their anti-establishment credentials, critique both Democratic and GOP institutions, and strike a balance (sometimes uneasily) between open debate and defending boundaries of acceptable discourse.

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For more on these ongoing stories, activism guides, and conservative commentary, visit charliekirk.com.

Transcript

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

All right, welcome back to hour two of the Charlie Kirk Show. This is Friday hour two, which means we take your questions the ask us anything. Our members.charlie kirk.com if you want to join and you want to ask questions. So first up we have Josh. Josh, can you hear me?

[Josh]

Yes, I can.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

What's going on?

[Josh]

Well, I got a question here for Ohio and campaigns. I know that Vivek is a big friend, was a big friend of Charlie's and TP USA and part of the war room posse wanted to find out if TP USA has any plans to help campaign here in Ohio for governor. And then also two, part of the question with the redistricting that's supposed to happen here in Ohio. I know our biggest challenge is the rhino state supreme Court justices and wanted to see if TPUSA is involved or might be involved with say the war room in getting our state redistrict for Republicans.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Yeah. So the backstory here is that there is a redistricting plan that actually Governor DeWine has ultimately decided to endorse and support, which is a good sign which would take it up from 10 out of the 15 seats in Ohio that would favor Republicans to 12 out of the 15 districts that would favor favor Republicans. So yeah, your, your, your point is well made on the Supreme Court. That's going to be because the maps have to be submitted and approved by the state supreme Court. And so that's going to be the big fight there. I, I will immediately after the show get involved with or I'll get in contact with Tyler Boyer on this, on the C4 side, turning point action. I've seen some, some, let's just say, communication going back and forth on that. We are supportive of the redistricting and in Indiana, where we unfortunately got flummoxed by a one holdout Republican. But I think, I think Ohio has a good shot of going through because you have somebody like DeWine that's voiced his public support for the, for, for that effort. So to the extent that Turning Point actually could be helpful, we 1000% want to be and we can get you more answers on exactly how that might look in, in shows to come.

[Josh]

Perfect. Thank you.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Yeah. And I think Vivek's going to end up running away with, with, with the nominee nomination and the governorship in Ohio. That's just my personal opinion. And you know, we're very supportive of Vivek. We're still in communication with Vivek and yeah, that's, I mean, what do you think about that race?

[Josh]

I like the vec. Only problem is the Ohio GOP is corrupt and they've already endorsed the candidate before a primary, which I think a lot of people might have issues with that. They did the same thing when DeWine was running. They endorsed him before a primary and ran, I forget her name, their Lieutenant Governor Kasich out of the race and she was the conservative there. So, yeah, I like the vec. I'm excited about him and I think he's the best candidate we have here in Ohio.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Yeah, that's been our conclusion as well. I don't know if Blake or Mike have anything to add, but, you know, we in general are very supportive of the redistricting. I will tell you.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Blake]

I don't have too much to add to that. You know, we're, we're supportive of, I don't think just regarding Vivek specifically. We haven't endorsed anyone specifically in that primary. I know there's still multiple people running. We will obviously be supportive of whoever the Republican is. It seems like Vivek is doing very well. And if he's the candidate, we will of course back him and we'll back him on. We'll, we'll back the redistricting effort, which has become very popular all across the country. Pretty straightforward on that front. If it becomes about rejiggering the state Supreme Court, we'll be involved in that, too. Although that's, there's so many layers to this. It starts off with us just having to try to redraw maps and then it's okay. Now we have to win an election and then we have to recall or replace state supreme court justices and then this suddenly is a multi year thing. It's quite the, it's quite the process.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Yeah. And just for the record, I do want one minor little correction while Blake is right on the turning point action side. Charlie did endorse Vivek for governor personally before. Obviously he was taken from us. So. Next question, who's next? Christine.

[Christine]

Hi guys, how are you today?

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Hey Christine. Doing well, how are you?

[Christine]

I'm good, I'm good. I'm sure we all want this shutdown to end, right? This Democratic driven shutdown at 31 days. I was wondering if we could use the TPUSA platform to maybe encourage five moderate Democratic senators who might likely flip, maybe a viral campaign could flip their votes for a clean cr. Thoughts on leading that charge?

[Blake]

Do we, do we really feel we're the right people to make Democrats change their POVs on that one? I feel almost like, feel dirty, like I'm in an oil slick on myself or something.

[Christine]

But we, we. Shouldn't we be the ones encouraging them to do the right thing?

[Mikey]

Yeah. To find the phone numbers and to call the office and, you know. Yeah, yeah. We've done things like that in the past.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Well, there's a few senators that have shown that they are looking for an excuse, so Slotkin would be one of them, obviously. Fetterman, there are swing state senators that are looking down the barrel of electoral upheaval if they don't get the government open and if they fear credibly that they are going to be saddled with some of the blame for this. So I think, I think your instinct is right and I think once again I'm going to, I'm going to take this recommendation. Tyler and I have a call this afternoon. So we're going to take it right to turning point action. I don't think it's a bad idea. Anything can help. But again, we have a, we have a couple races that we're looking at. Right. We're looking at Virginia, we're looking at New Jersey. We're, we are sort of, that's our focus right now. We have to be prudent about the way we deploy resources and money is finite and so we just have to be good stewards of that. And at the end of the day, this is not our main focus, if I'm being candid with you. And I think Democrats are going to have to realize that. I think that they've already maximized the amount of political upside for themselves with this shutdown, but we don't know how it's going to play out. We really don't. And I think when you, we talked about this in hour one with the government or with Trump sort of bringing up nuking the filibuster, I think that's saber rattling. I think that's to scare Dems and to get them compliant and to break ranks and finally open the government back up with a clean cr. So that's my personal opinion on the matter. But we have a another question here from Michael. Michael, if you are with us, unmute yourself. You're welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

[Michael]

Yes, good day. I'll go with the North Carolina one first. You know, we, we have suffered from, I think a lack of really Republican senators here in North Carolina. The burr is left now. Tillis has left. We've got that seat available. Looks like Cooper and Whatley are going to be running, you know, what do you think while he's a first time candidate for anything, his chances of winning this state and I guess will TP Action be working in North Carolina? Have you decided to make a move to help us here?

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Well, North Carolina is an interesting state. Blake, I don't mean to talk over the top of you. It is a, I think it's, you know, the definition of a purple state. But we're maybe like light red, pink, especially on these state level races. Right. You had Dan Bishop running for ag. Didn't get in. Who's a great candidate. It's a tough state to win at the, you know, whether it's senators or governorship, it tends to kind of like flip back and forth between, you know, governor and AG and senators and presidential races. So it's just one of those crazy states. But we do have a good track record of winning senators from the state of North Carolina. So let's hope that that holds. As far as Michael Whatley goes, you know, Michael's been a friend of Turning Point, Turning Point Action, Friend of Charlie's. I think he did a great job as chair of the rnc. And this is the candidate that President Trump wants. And so I think once you get that endorsement, there sort of necessarily has to be a coalescing of support around a single horse so we can get that horse over the top. So I haven't, I don't have more than that for you right now. As far as what, again, Turning Point Action. Listen, we get asked to go in a billion directions and I just want to say we've gotten really good at saying no. Something Charlie told us. And we have to point our resources where they're going to be the highest and best use of those resources in business. They say you can have better, cheaper or faster, but you can only pick two. What if you could have all three at the same time? Then that's exactly what Cohere, Thomson Reuters and Specialized Bikes have since they upgraded to the next generation of the cloud. Oracle Cloud Infrastructure. OCI is the blazing fast platform for your infrastructure, database, application development and AI needs where you can run any workload in a high availability, consistently high performance environment and spend less than you would with other clouds. How is it faster? OCI's block storage gives you more operations per second, cheaper. OCI costs up to 50% less for compute, 70% less for storage, and 80% less for networking. And better. Well, in test after test, OCI customers report lower latency and higher bandwidth versus other clouds. Don't take it from me. Take it from Charlie.

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[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Blake, you have an email you want to read here?

[Blake]

Yeah, I just wanted to flag this. So someone sent this to freedomarliekirk.com during the break and I want to flag it. Caleb said please shout out TP action field rep Hudson Price who is organizing coalitions in the Raleigh area. He is doing a great job and can use help. So if you are in the Raleigh area, maybe you will hopefully be able to meet field rep Hudson.

[Mikey]

He's great.

[Blake]

Help us make turn North Carolina from a purple state to a solid red state, which we are always fighting to do. So we'll shout out Hudson there. Thank you for that email, Caleb.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

And you know, it is Halloween today. Blake, do we say Happy Halloween on this show? Like what's, you know, what are the rules?

[Blake]

Mikey's an anti Halloween hater. He's a Halloween hater. We should have had you last night.

[Mikey]

I know. I had a dinner I had to make.

[Blake]

I have a dinner. You could have blown off the dinner.

[Mikey]

Are you a Halloween fan?

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

I am.

[Blake]

I am pro Halloween.

[Mikey]

It's not gonna work for us.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

I'm. I'm pro too. Charlie and I would disagree about this. To be fair, Charlie was very against it. He was very against it.

[Blake]

Charlie was.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

He thought it was. He thought it was playing with the occult and toying.

[Blake]

Don't play with the occult.

[Mikey]

Don't.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Don't do your Ouija board.

[Mikey]

Yeah. Okay. You guys are the exception. I. I would say A majority of people, they play along. So it's a problem.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Just get rid of it.

[Mikey]

Just like to filibuster.

[Blake]

Most people just do spooky, scary skeleton stuff.

[Mikey]

Nuke it.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Yeah.

[Mikey]

New coloring.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Just kitschy. Most of it's just kitschy. And I will tell you, my kids love it. They dress up like princesses and ninjas, and we go to a party with a bunch of other Christians, we do the whole harvest party thing and then we go trick or treating. And then when it gets like a little too dark, we. Everybody comes home and then they get candy and they're excited, and then we make them only eat one piece a day.

[Mikey]

Yeah, I do not have.

[Blake]

Charlie was just. Charlie was letting himself get a little too swayed by the same. You know, he was a Protestant. You Protestants, well, you give you guys too much rope and you guys want to ban Christmas.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

I'm just saying, like, Blake, let's. Let's open it up to the audience. You tell us, are you pro or anti Halloween? Send us an email. Freedom Charlie Kirk. Calm. Blake will be forced to read them even if they disagree with Blake's position on Halloween and mine. That's freedom Charlie Kirk dot com. We want to know what you think about Hollywood Halloween. You know, a lot of people argue about the roots of it. Is it Christian? Is it not Christian? Let's say. Anthony, you're up next.

[Anthony]

Hi, guys.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Hey, Anthony. How you doing?

[Anthony]

Good. So my question is this. My High School, McQuaid Jesuit in Rochester, New York, there are 90 plus students and three staff or faculty members that have signed a petition to start a turning point chapter. They have had two meetings with administration. And it's the way it goes. It's the principal and the dean of students, which is the assistant principal. Because it is a private school. The dean of students is supportive of the boys. The principal is refusing to look at any petition. He's refusing to hear anything out. He is refusing to talk. And this makes it even weirder about boarded trustee member or a board member at the school even went to the principal and the principal refused to list the he or she. But the school allows a gender equity club, a black student union, a pride club. And when I graduated in, I'll say it, the class of 2002, we never had that because the slogan was men for others and we didn't care what you looked like. And now all of a sudden, it's starting to shift the boy. The students are conservative. The staff is leaning with some staff is leaning to the left. And I found out from The TP rep who's been great that some staff or faculty are actually making nasty comments to the boys about the chapter not being approved. How do we, myself or other alums go about helping them? Because 90 plus students in a school of little less than 700 and this is 6th through 12th grade.

[Blake]

First off, why am I just not surprised this is happening at a Jesuit institution? I needed to say that. Jesuits, man, there something really wrong university.

[Anthony]

In New Orleans where the student government said no to the chapter. That's probably going to go to a lawsuit and that'll change everything. But, like, how can these boys get support nationally? And I've made comments on private Facebook groups and it's gone viral in the community. Even my own high school is trying to just.

[Mikey]

Yeah, Rochester, New York, and what school?

[Anthony]

McQuade Jesuit. It is in the town of Brighton, but it uses the address of Rochester, New York. I've actually been discredited. The TP rep said there's been talk about you being discredited, not being on Charlie show before and everything. So I sent her the clip of the day I called in the Friday before the memorial to share my memory.

[Mikey]

Yeah.

[Anthony]

And everything so.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Well, we totally have your back. And I think we should probably blow this up more. A little bit more.

[Mikey]

Yeah.

[Anthony]

Oh, I think we should, because the principal actually was a counselor at the school, but then worked in the public school system before ever coming to McQuade. So there's really no tie from what I can see and everything. So, yeah, I would love to blow it up.

[Mikey]

Yeah. I mean, I went to a Christian school actually a couple weeks ago. I said they didn't start a chapter. They actually did start a chapter. I know that we've been trying to for years, but leadership is important. Rob Black, who's the president of Oaks Christian, he was incredible. He got the chapter approved. He's just the best with the school. But not all schools are like that. I mean, Oaks has been great and their chapter is huge right now. But you gotta just stay on top of it. I mean, we can definitely help. I just wrote it down, but the principal seems like that's the problem there. I don't think you guys are as blessed as my high school was with a great headmaster and president of the school, the Bedhead.

[Anthony]

We have a president of the school. So, you know, so it goes president, principal. Well, actually, there's a vice president of operations who leaned to the left a little, I found out. So it goes president, vice president, principal, dean of students, which is assistant principal. So it Goes kind of in that pecking order signal.

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[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Blake, you've got a write in question you want to ask.

[Blake]

Yes, yes, this is a write in question and it's on something we've gotten a lot of questions about, you can imagine. But I thought this one was well, well formulated and so Mikey and I wanted to say something to it. So this is from Dennis. He said just wondering if you would be willing to comment on the recent interview Tucker Carlson had with Nick Fuentes. I was quite frankly surprised as Nick had said some very hurtful comments about both Charlie and Erica Kirk. I wonder if this interview may have platformed Nick personally. I have a very difficult time interview. I would have a very difficult time interviewing someone who made those statements about a dear friend. I understand being willing to have open debate but there are also boundaries we as believers need to draw as well. Curious for your thoughts. It was from Dennis's email, but it is from Katie. Katie, who is probably his wife I imagine wrote that. So thank you, Katie. I wanted Mikey, I thought you might want to respond first.

[Mikey]

I know that Charlie, you know Charlie loved Tucker and specifically Tucker being at America Fest this year, that was a Charlie pick. And I know Charlie was always very anti what he would call moral blackmail where people would just kind of say you can't have, you know, you cannot have this speaker there. And Charlie would respond with, you know, that's all the more reason for me want to. Want to have this speaker here. He would double, triple down. And so Charlie. That's kind of the Charlie response here.

[Blake]

The context there, because some people have said, like, they want to disinvite Tucker. They want to push Tucker out of the movement because he interviewed Fuentes and all of that. So that's the context for what there. And Charlie was, as you said, he hate. He used that phrase. He disliked moral blackmail. He was this very combative Scottish guy. Didn't. If you were going to say, you can't have this person there, that made him more likely to want them there. And he faced that pressure repeatedly over the past summer and, you know, pretty much up until, you know, his murder. And so I think that that would strongly influence that. But I actually do. I want to say something brief here. I am disappointed that Tucker did do that interview, at least in the manner that it did. It's perfectly fine to say I am an open platform who will interview and speak with anyone. But what we did get is we did get what was a very friendly interview. That was a chance for someone, for Nick specifically, to look very positive, very reasonable. And there was not much effort to bring up any. A lot of the reasons people do dislike him. Like, it's not simply that Nick has, like, criticized Israel, and so people like Ben Shapiro have attacked him over this. It's more extreme than that. He's used phrase where he says, like, world Jewry is this, like, thing that we need to fight against. He's referred to Israel as the Antichrist. He has said pretty extreme things. I think he may have even said, you know, implied that we should, like, I think, kick Talmudis out of America. I don't. Don't quote me on that one. I am not an expert on all Fuente's lore, but these things. These are things he said. And I think if you are going to interview him, you should at least bring them up instead. It was just this. It was very generous in tone. And, you know, one thing I was thinking about is when Tucker has those guests out onto his show, it's always a very friendly thing where they come out and, like, he has dinner with them. They're there for a while, and the natural dynamic there. Tucker's a super friendly guy. Anyone who's met him knows Tucker's very generous. He's very friendly. He's very open, he's very welcoming. And when you're doing that setup for Every single person you speak with, he's not going to turn around and then, like, be super tough on a person that he's been having, you know, he. That he had a friendly dinner with just, you know, a matter of hours before. And I think that constructed what that interview was, because if you watch it, he does bring up some of those things he does point out to. To Nick where he says, you know, I don't think your tone is always as helpful as it could be. I don't think that it's good to fixate on, you know, basically to push, like, anti Semitic stuff. But a lot of people didn't really catch that. It came in later and it wasn't super strongly formulated. And frankly, I'm also gonna say this. I'm disappointed he didn't bring up, you know, you are getting in. You would attack Charlie all of the time. You would say these incredibly harsh things about Charlie. I think he called Charlie a false Christian before, and he said hurtful things about Erica and Tucker.

[Mikey]

You.

[Blake]

Tucker was friends with Charlie. We know that. And I kind of wish he had stuck up a little more for the man who, among other things, stuck up for him repeatedly. And again, I, you know, we oppose. We oppose moral blackmail. We're not going to just, like, cancel Tucker off the face of the earth for this sort of thing. But I'll be truthful, I do wish more had come out of that interview than what we got.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Yeah, I think. I think that's. Well said, Blake. It's like you can be disappointed with the way the interview was conducted, but you could also realize that, you know, we're going to honor Charlie's wishes and, you know, we all have relationships with Tucker as well. He's always been nothing but incredibly kind to me and to Blake. Blake has worked with Tucker for a long time, so I think that basically sums that one up. Next up, we have Brandon. Brandon, you are on the Charlie Kirk Show. Welcome.

[Blake]

Hey, guys. So I'm writing a research paper on the negative effects of immigration in the United Kingdom, and no shortage of those. No shortage of those. Yeah, it's a pretty easy paper to write, but I was wondering what podcast it was that. I think it was you, Blake, talking about your experience in the UK When Charlie was debating at Oxford, you were talking about, like, the businesses and how you couldn't understand the language for the most of them. Oh, yeah. Oh, man.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

We'll.

[Blake]

We'll. We'll get. Definitely. I'll try to shoot us an email at Freedom. Charlie Kirk or. And I'll try to, like, get a more detailed look at that, but I can repeat. Yeah, repeat it. Let's just repeat it.

[Mikey]

Let's just get some red meat for you.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

We're gonna get some red meat.

[Blake]

Mikey was with us too. Mikey was with us too. We landed in the uk. We were staying in Knightsbridge, was the neighborhood.

[Mikey]

Yeah. Oh, talk about the TV channel.

[Blake]

Yeah, yeah. So we're in Knightsbridge. This is a neighborhood, an expensive neighborhood. Central London. You are walking distance from Buckingham Palace. You're walking distance from everything. Every, you know, Westminster and a ton of the businesses, expensive businesses. They have Arabic language lettering on the. On the windows. So in Arabic, we're looking. I went into our hotel and our hotel was this weird, hideous thing. It looked like a prison that you'd, like, keep Lex Luthor in. But anyway, I was flipping through the TV channels of our hotel and. And maybe out of 60 channels or something, I would say 20 to 30 of them were in Middle Eastern languages. There was several Saudi channels. We had the Saudi children's channel. They were playing a Spyro Yemen tv. Spyro, the Dragon TV show. But in Arabic, there was a Lebanese, Omani, Pakistani, Yemeni, all of these channels. And again, this is in presumably a hotel. A lot of, you know, wealthy, you know, Muslim Arab visitors would stay in. And you saw the signs everywhere. You're just walking through London and I.

[Mikey]

Will say the food was really good. But every storefront was just Arabic writing.

[Blake]

You could really feel like you were in a country that had been. That is being kind of taken over, being culturally converted. I remember seeing signs. No antisocial driving, I thought was an interesting one. I looked that up. People, they drive very antisocially in London now, or even a minor one. That really thought. Got me thinking. There was a statue to some guy who had a role in British India 150 years ago. And I could tell that someone had, like, mildly defaced this. Like they were scratching out, like, the India on the statue. And you just think, like, Britain has brought in people who are hostile to Britain's history.

[Mikey]

Yep.

[Blake]

Britain's people. British. I mean, British religion.

[Mikey]

Yes.

[Blake]

And we're seeing this. You know, churches are being converted into mosques. There are far more Muslim believers now in London than there are Christian believers.

[Mikey]

It's like you take London in all of its beauty, you keep it the same, but you add more trash on the streets. And then Arabic writing everywhere.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Blake]

And it seems similar. Truly heartbreaking. And you really. And you'll see this, Brandon. If you look up, like the Statements. We had members of the British Parliament who were spiking the football because an Israeli soccer team was going to play in Birmingham. Ton of Muslims in Birmingham. And they just campaigned. They said the fans of this Israeli soccer team should not be allowed to attend this game. And they successfully got that to happen. They banned the fans from this game. And then these Muslim MPs celebrated this. They just publicly celebrated it.

[Mikey]

I think it might be in Manchester, where in the most recent election that they had in the uk, someone ran as an independent, so not part of the Conservative or Labour Party, just as an independent. And they said they're running as the Palestinian party. Just that's. That was their only thing they're running on.

[Blake]

He won. And there's polls where they ask people. This is a recent poll, just this month. You can look this up, Brandon, where they were asking by different background what you think the top issues are. And so for white British people, the number one issue was migrants recently. And then, you know, people of Hindu or black background, they said the cost of living. And then people of. Of a kind of Muslim background. It was. Gaza was, I think, either, the number one or number two issue.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Blake]

And that's after the ceasefire.

[Mikey]

That was after.

[Blake]

It is. You can look everywhere. You'll look, Brandon. There's just one sign after another of they are. This is not an assimilation. This is kind of an ongoing cultural conquest of the UK and the.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

And the Blaze.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Oh, I was just gonna say Charlie's favorite verse on this was Deuteronomy 28:43. Foreigners who live in your land will gain more and more power while you gradually lose yours. They will have money to lend you, but you will have none to lend them. In the end, they will be your rulers.

[Mikey]

Yes. Which is why you see it being okay that Muslims can take over London and all the uk. But, you know, old ladies are being arrested for Facebook posts about free speech. You are losing your rights in the uk. Muslims are ending theirs.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

I want to read some of these email replies about Halloween. Matthew says Andrew and Blake are correct. Don't play with things you shouldn't. And Halloween is just fine.

[Mikey]

No, there's gotta be different emails you're picking.

[Blake]

This is crazy.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

No, don't be like my ex and play with tarot cards and crystals. Thanks. That's Matt. I grew up Catholic when October 31st was All Hallows Eve, a holy night of remembrance. Later, as a born again believer, I was told it was evil. But then I learned the Wesleyan quadrilateral scripture. Tradition, reason, experience. Now I simply see Halloween as a night to love my neighbors. Well, how about this one?

[Mikey]

Satanists that have become Christians say that Halloween is a special day for them and that evil spirits are the most active on that day. How about that?

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Yep. Well, Mark agrees. He says without any doubt against, against this pagan so called holiday. Jesus Christ took care of this issue long ago when Satan and his sidekicks lost their wings, then grew tails and horns, banned this satanic pagan ritual. That's from Mark.

[Mikey]

I like you, Mark.

[Blake]

I think of, I like to think of the St. Michael prayer that Catholics pray where we say, you know, and by the power of God cast into hell Satan and all evil spirits. And that is a Halloween prayer if I ever heard one. It is saying demons exist, but they can be beaten and thrown into hell.

[Mikey]

And protect us against the wickedness and.

[Blake]

Snares of the devil by the power of God.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

This is a very contentious issue in our, in our emails. I will tell you this is, this is like legitimately 50, 50.

[Blake]

We literally got in the same minute, in the same minute we got emails with the headline Halloween and then the next one, no, no Halloween right in a row.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

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[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Just really quick. I want to keep reading some of these emails. Mikey and Blake. So this is Marty. It says, Halloween was the most fun I had with my family and neighbors here in my little community in San Diego. My husband and I rushed home from work to get ready. My mom would hand out candy while grandpa, my husband and I would gather our son to join neighbors for a few hours. We never did any occult stuff. It was so fun. I truly miss those days. Got maga Anti Halloween, gentlemen. Charlie was so right about Halloween. As with so many other things, when your eyes are open spiritually, you clearly see how dark it is. The enemy uses it to get. Get a foothold in families on a surface level. While the dark forces deeply involved in the occult use the day to bring forth evil in the spiritual realm. We have another one that says they want a freedom hoodie. So Daisy. They want a freedom hoodie. Makes it a bit easier standing up for the truth and a little bit easier in negative 10 degree weather. So we have another one. No Halloween. I have a 10 year old daughter. We go to Harvest Fest. She was a police costume. She has a police costume and that is what she wants to do when she grows up. It's all over the place, guys. It's all over the place. Becky says, Blake, have you read C.S. lewis? Screwtape Letters? Demons against Christian values can't win.

[Blake]

Exactly. I have read it. In fact, it's been a long time though. But I have read it. It's a good book. Charlie loved it too.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Now I just feel like our studio is trolling the anti Halloween contingent in our audience.

[Blake]

No, I'm the.

[Mikey]

I'm standing strong in the office. I'm. I think I'm the only one.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Listen, I. I feel like I have carved out a nice middle ground where I'm saying princesses and ninja costumes. Good.

[Mikey]

I don't know.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

And creepy stuff. Not so good. I'm not. Listen, if I told my 7 year old daughter we were not going trick or treated tonight, we would just basically have to. Yes, make new traditions.

[Blake]

Unleash demons.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

No, make new traditions. A real demon.

[Mikey]

Make new traditions.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Make new traditions. You can do more exc.

[Charlie Kirk]

Thanks.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

My daughter is so sweet about all the spiritual stuff. She like prays to Jesus. We sing the worship songs like the cutest thing you've ever imagined. But man, if I told her she couldn't dress up like Jasmine tonight, that would be a real problem. And I know that's gonna get me in trouble.

[Blake]

Now the real reason not let her dress up like Jasmine is that Jasmine is an Islamic princess.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

I know. That's the. That's well, we're not gonna get into theology.

[Mikey]

Yeah, come on. Blake can talk to her about it.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

My daughter just thought she's pretty and wants to put on the, the outfit. Okay, here we go. We got Carol next. Carol next. Carol, if you're with us, unmute yourself, please. You are on the Charlie Kirk Show.

[Christine]

Hello. Hi, guys.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Yes, hi, Carol.

[Christine]

Anti Halloween, my grandchildren are all grown up almost. They're all teenagers. But anyway, you know, be not of the world, blah, blah, blah. I think we're playing with fire there, compromise. But yeah, my question was about California. I'm here in California. We got all these Trumpers out here and I just feel like I heard on Bannon and he was talking about how the GOP in California, you know, just, they didn't want Trump involved and so we're just dying out here. We're about to lose the state. You know, if this Prop 50, it's, it's going to pass. Steve Hilton's trying to fight, but you know, this show, all these shows, you know, Charlie Kirk show has been, been a real help to, you know, get people going. So I don't know, I know other people are asking for help in their states. You guys have your priorities.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

But yeah, yeah, Carol, we're actually going to have Steve on the show to talk about Prop 50. I've gotten a bunch of, I've gotten a bunch of notes from the grassroots in California that want us to help and raise the alarm bells. I have a feeling you're probably right that if things hold, Prop 50 is going to pass. It's a complete abomination. They're going against a referendum vote that created an independent commission to district the state. And by the way, just so you know, those independent commissions get completely corrupted as well. They're completely dependent on how good of the quality of the people that staff them. Right. So, so it's, you know, the independent commissions are not foolproof either. You've got, even Arnold Schwarzenegger is out being very loud about this and it just, it really puts into perspective that we need to get Indiana over the, over the finish line. We need to get Ohio over the finish line, we need to get Texas over the finish line. So all of our efforts have to counter Californians because at this point you've got 40% of the state that is voting for Trump in the last election and you've got what it's like six or eight of the seats go to conservatives. It's, I mean, it's essentially like 20% or 18% of the, of the congressional districts are, you know, have conservative representation in a state that has 40% Trump vote. But Blake, Blake and I have gone back and forth on this.

[Christine]

They cheat and nobody, you know, we can't get any traction with that. So, you know, they were still counting 30 days after the election, although they called the recall within 30 minutes.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Well, for Mr. Houston. Carol. Yeah, I agree. So thank you so much for being a member and for calling. And we're going to get to Greg really quick if we can. Greg, how's it going, guys? Great question.

[Blake]

Fast. 60 seconds.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Real quick, real quick. The.

[Michael]

The snap and EBT.

[Anthony]

How. What can we do as a dojo? What can we do to get a better vetting system to sort of get.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

The deadbeats and the people that are.

[Michael]

Abusing and cheating the system and basically.

[Anthony]

Now robbing the stores blind?

[Blake]

Here's a good start. If we're actually going. If we end up nuking the filibuster to bring SNAP back, they should at least also use nuking the filibuster to say we're changing the rules around SNAP and who gets it. Because if you look at how many people got it, it went up, I think it nearly doubled during COVID or went up about 50%. Huge bloat, massive amounts of waste. And there's this feeding frenzy where people are practically looting every government program in existence. And we've got to, we've got to buckle down and say that this is not acceptable or we are actually going to go totally bankrupt as a country. And that will be very bad. And that will mean, well, probably no more SAP for anybody.

[Charlie Kirk (Host)]

Don't forget, Blake. Don't forget, Blake. Tomorrow is National Looting Day. If the SNAP benefits don't get turned back on, that's. Those are the real demons, the real occult. Greg, thank you for calling. Thank you, everybody. What a great show.

[Blake]

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