Blake (2:50)

Fetterman, I guess.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (2:52)

Yeah. My mind went to Fetterman. I feel like he's the only one that really is.

Caller Anthony/David (2:59)

He's the only one that says it. But that's why I don't want to say just him. Is there anybody else?

Charlie Kirk (Host) (3:04)

What's interesting one.

Blake (3:06)

Maybe there's a recent one. What stood out to me was like you always have these dynamics after an election. They lost bad last year. You had this almost abortive move towards guys, we may have let this get out of control. We need to be go another direction, I think. Was it Seth Molten who had that.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (3:24)

Yes. Yeah.

Blake (3:25)

Where he was trying to get them to back off on the trans issue and they just, they just lit him up about it. And I think you saw Gavin Newsom was starting to take gestures in that direction in his interview with Charlie and they blew up at him really badly. And I don't think he's gone further on that on that one either. But certainly on this anti ice radicalism, I really only see a one way ratchet about this, at least from lawmakers. And I don't know how much of that is deliberate recklessness or deliberate extremism and how much of that is they're just afraid of getting lit up themselves or they don't even fully realize what they're doing. Like Tim Walls as an example. Tim Walls is just stupid. Tim Walz is dumb. And so when Walls says we're at war with the federal government, I saw that getting shared yesterday. I don't think he was literally doing a whole secessionist. I'm going to go with the war of federal government. I think he was just using dumb words because he doesn't recognize the sort of situation he's in.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (4:22)

Yeah. And the implication of saying something like we're at war. I kind of interpreted that clip the same way. I will say, you know, to Blake's point, there was this debate of which way the Democrat Party was gonna turn. Were they gonna be moderating their positions or were they gonna be radicalizing their positions? And it's very clear a year into the President, President Trump's second term, that they are radicalizing their positions at every turn and that the far left flank of the Democrat Party controls that party. That's why Mamdani is ascendant. That's why you see Democrat socialist mayors in Seattle, Chicago, New York. So for all intents and purposes, Jacob Frey is also one of these people in Minneapolis. Right. And they are controlling the party. And if you step out of line, you're going to take a lot of guff. And I will say, you know, when John Fetterman started speaking sense, which was one of the largest ironies of recent.

Blake (5:16)

It made me a little uncomfortable because you don't want that sense. Like, oh, did he did like the brain damage from his stroke make him more conservative?

Charlie Kirk (Host) (5:24)

Exactly right. You want brain damage to make you dumber, not smarter. But in his case, I like to think of it as he was healing. He became more sensible. So. But the point is, John Fetterman, a bunch of his staff left a bunch of. I mean, he took a lot of internal pushback that you don't hear a lot about, but he kind of just took it on the chin and kept going forward. So kudos to him. And he's the last sort of prominent sensible Democrat out there that is socially, I would say probably left, I think economically left, but he's still a patriot. And I think that's the dividing line. And we've said it on the show before, that you're either a movement that loves the country, loves what it was founded on, loves our heritage, loves our culture and has pride in it, or you are somebody that ultimately thinks America is somewhat illegitimate or all the way illegitimate, or it's all the way systemically racist and bigoted and oppressive. You know, that is the dividing line. It's really. Some of the. Some of the people that you would consider conservative now aren't really even conservative. They are sort of just, you know, not woke, I guess they're Team Sanity. They believe in civilization still. They believe in law and order. And that's about the dividing line.

Blake (6:36)

It's a thing that is, frankly, it's made it tough to always articulate a conservative agenda on things because it often is just defined by people who don't like the left, at least in America.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (6:47)

Yeah.

Blake (6:48)

And also, I'll be frank, I would talk to Charlie about this. Sometimes the issue the right has is there's sort of low self esteem, if that makes sense. I don't know what the right term for it would be, but they are very eager to welcome people into their coalition, like if a celebrity shouts us out, that sort of thing. And that can actually, it can make it a little too easy for you to get taken over by newcomers. More or less.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (7:10)

Yeah. I mean, listen, I think it's great to welcome newcomers, but you shouldn't have Them, you know, teach in the class. Right. They should be. They should be amongst the pupils in the. In the. In the. In the desks, not at the front of the classroom. So I think that's the dividing line. You just have to make sure that the people that are leading your movement have actually been tried, tested, and found. True, real believers. Right. So, Anthony, I don't know if that answers your question, but it does. It does appear to be, you know, the fact that we can't think of anybody. Probably not a good sign. No, I don't know.

Caller Anthony/David (7:41)

I agree. And I couldn't think of anybody in it just because. I'll be honest, there was a protest at the border patrol in a town or two over from me and last night, so.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (7:54)

Yeah. Where are you based?

Caller Anthony/David (7:56)

Rochester, New York, is the location.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (7:57)

Yeah. All right. Yeah. It's interesting because the far left of the Democrat Party is definitely in control, and I don't really see. It's funny, I got into a little bit of a Twitter debate with somebody that was like, far left and Democrats are two different things. And it's like, okay, I guess, but who's really wielding the power? I'm not sure how true that is anymore. But anyways, thank you as always, Anthony. Great to hear from you. We've got Ian. Ian, unmute yourself. You are up next on the Charlie Kirk Show. What's your question?

Caller Ian (8:30)

Hi, guys. How you doing?

Charlie Kirk (Host) (8:31)

Doing well, thank you. How about yourself?

Caller Ian (8:33)

I'm doing well. Thank you for asking. I was down at Amfest, so it was great seeing you guys again. I hope you had a good break.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (8:40)

Yeah.

Caller Ian (8:40)

But my question is, how do we address the difference of perspective on this Minnesota woman being shot? I just feel like both sides are seeing kind of what they want to see to an extent. I think there is an objective truth on what happened, but it's causing so much division. How. How can we as a country come together and move forward? Because I don't want this to become another George Floyd incident. And if we could also touch on the difference of reactions from Charlie Kirk's assassination recently to this Minnesota woman, you know, they're not holding a prayer vigil and, you know, coming together. So that's just my two cents on it.

Caller Gigi (9:17)

Yeah.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (9:17)

Yeah. Well, and Anthony, I love the question, and because you're giving me the opportunity, I want to play this new angle. I have not seen it yet. This is 386. A new angle. I believe it's the police body cam or the logo.

Blake (9:31)

There's no cell phone footage on Alpha News, but It looks like it could be body cam footage.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (9:36)

386 it's a 45 second clip. 380. That's fine.

Caller Gigi (9:55)

Dude.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (9:55)

I'm not mad if you, like, show your face.

Caller Gigi (9:58)

I'm not mad at.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (9:59)

That's okay. We don't change our plates every morning. Just so you know, it'll be the same plate when you come talk to us later.

Blake (10:05)

That's fine.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (10:05)

U.S. citizen, former.

Blake (10:08)

You want to come at us?

Charlie Kirk (Host) (10:10)

You want to come at us? I said go get yourself some lunch, big boy. Go ahead now.

Blake (10:15)

Car.

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Blake (13:27)

The question was, what can we do to bring the country together? And the truth is, there's not an easy answer to that because the idea of a strong united core in America has been greatly diluted by a lot of changes in America, by demographic change. So there's not nearly the same sense of America as a shared country going back a great distance. A lot of people, if half the country doesn't even trace its heritage back to World War II, we could be at that point sooner rather than later. There's not that same sense of a shared society, and especially when there's been a long term political project to delegitimize the country itself and by extension, its people. So it's very common to just basically take an attitude of total hate and delegitimization to Americans who are in middle America, who are in the south, all of that. And it just. It's very hard to have something come together. And, you know, a lot of people have asked us to respond to that Jasmine Crockett tape where she was saying, oh, how did we react after Charlie shooting? I know how they reacted. A guy on his balcony across the street from us played another One Bites the Dust while people were trying to pray. I don't know how you Unite the country with people like that. And the guy works for the aclu. And I think at some point you have to say we have to make sure we stand for something. It has to be an appealing moral message to people. And you have to hope that you can win people over to that and that can become a national core that people can unite around. I think that is what Charlie was fighting for. What Charlie was doing, he was planting the seeds for a future possibly decades hence. The seeds of patriotism, the seeds of Christian faith, something that could appeal to a large number of people, including young people. And you hope the strength of that moral message is something that will win the day. But very truthfully, I don't see an easy way to get unity with people who are saying kill ICE officers. I don't see how you can easily have unity with people who celebrate the murder of Charlie. I don't see how you can easily have unity of people who say the United States is fundamentally an illegitimate country in society. And I know that's a tough answer to give, but it's what I'm feeling.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (15:48)

Yeah, no, I think you're right. I think it was really well said, Blake and I, you know, I've reflected a lot on what Charlie was actually doing a lot. And what he. You're, I think, 1,000% right, that he was actually selling an image of America and a vision of America that was palatable to the, to the broad core, to that 75% in the middle. Right. Probably middle right. But there was a. There was a huge audience for this. And we saw it with the billions and billions of views he was reclaiming, it was like, so if you sort of think of what America is, it's an unbroken chain of generations that passes on the American dream, the belief in the experiment of America, the American republic, from generation to generation. And Charlie noticed that the chain was getting broken with Gen Z, millennials and Gen Z. And he went out there and he put those chain links back together.

Blake (16:42)

Before we move on, I think we should actually, to get at the difficulty here, we should. A lot of people. This is going ultra viral. This clip. No, this clip of the woman who went to the Renee Good memorial but thought it was immoral. Let's play 382.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (16:55)

So I mean, I'm just walking around kind of just dayside, cuz I, I got. I was like, I don't know if.

Blake (17:00)

It'S the right thing to do.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (17:01)

It feels kind of wrong being here in some way. I don't know. Why, why, why do you think Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Like, I mean, part of it is being like a white woman, that I'm privileged, and I have a lot of privilege. So I feel like white tears are not always something that's helpful or necessary. When black and brown people have been experiencing this for a long time, this isn't new for them. And so I don't know if that makes any sense.

Blake (17:33)

It's very difficult to unite, to achieve unity with a person whose thought process is that cooked. And I feel bad for her because she's been taught to hate herself. She badly hates herself. She needs help. She needs love, frankly. But it is very difficult to.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (17:48)

It's the same thing where they say men can't have an opinion about abortion or whatever. It's like she's. She feels like her opinion is illegitimate. I mean, it's a bad opinion, but, you know, it's.

Blake (17:59)

Her opinion's illegitimate, but she'll still go.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (18:01)

On television to that extent is. Is truly, truly baffling. All right, Ian, did you have a follow up question?

Caller Ian (18:08)

What I want to know is what made Charlie just such a good coalition builder from what you guys saw? Because I've been trying to talk to people just for tpusa faith side, and, man, there's just a lot of roadblocks that come up. And I'm just. It's like, it almost gets discouraging.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (18:23)

So what kind of roadblocks are you?

Caller Ian (18:25)

Well, like, they're like, oh, is TPUSA still going to be the same without Charlie? They're like, oh, turning points, causing division. You know, it's like. And I'm like, the cause and the movement doesn't stop with Charlie being gone. In fact, it's more people coming together.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (18:41)

You know, I have a lot of opinions here, Ian, actually. So a lot of these people that, okay, so listen, Charlie deserved to be lifted up and praised and remembered in such a remarkable fashion because he was so remarkable, there's no doubt. But they're also whitewashing a lot of the road to get there. Charlie came under incredible scrutiny, incredible criticism. From the time I worked with Charlie, there was not a day that went by where he was not being attacked by somebody on the right, by somebody that was part of this larger coalition that wasn't chipping at his heels. I mean, I'm telling you, that was just the, the norm. It was completely a situation where, you know, we have more. I have more memories of people on the right attacking Charlie than I do people on the right praising him in his life. And then obviously, when somebody is martyred the way Charlie was, a lot of those people kind of put that aside. They said nice things, which is great. They should. Charlie deserved that. But these are the same actors that were bubbling up before. So I think there's just kind of a bit of a misremembering of the past. To the extent that Turning Point is sowing division, I completely disagree with that. Again, these are the same people that see an opening. We had Walter Kern on, and he was talking about the vacuum and how some of these, I think, negative actors kind of rush into the space. Turning Point has not done anything different than we did when Charlie was alive. We brought people together that disagree on different topics. Those people went on stage at Amfest. They let the world know that they had disagreements, but that wasn't something that we did. We didn't tell them to have a fight in public. That was a choice that they made from the stage at Amfest to do that. Now, any other division, it's not like we're out there throwing ideological bombs inside the movement here or there. Literally. This is a bunch of people that are rushing into a vacuum. There is a little. There are issues that are fracturing the base, mostly foreign policy issues, mostly issues about Israel or whatever. And so we're not actually the ones responsible for the division. This is just inherent in a coalition this big and this broad and this rowdy. We have a rowdy group of people that make up the right of center. And our job is to just be a convening force and to allow the best and the smartest and the brightest to come together and have those conversations or, you know, in an election year, hopefully, they get more focused and they attack the left. But, you know, we're not the ones really doing that. So I would disagree with that in general. And then the last thing I would say, Charlie became really good at this. He would just bowl through the objections. He would just put his head down, put his shoulder to the plow, and do good work. And that's what we intend to do, and that's we're going to keep doing. So I appreciate your backup on that. Just. Just push through the objections. Just do good work. And ultimately, there's very few people in the conservative movement, or any movement for that matter, that do real work, that actually get the job done. And so a lot of people are gonna have opinions. At the end of the day, there's only gonna be a few left standing that are doing real work. We're gonna be one of those organizations and that has a uniting effect when the chips are down. So thank you for that opportunity. I don't know if you want to add anything. I kind of monologue there, but Blake.

Blake (22:07)

But Charlie was a humble person. I think that helped. That's a big reason he could build coalitions is he didn't take past arguments terribly seriously. And that's just very important because politics is constantly shifting coalitions and there's. If you want to have a gripe with someone, there are endless reasons to do it and you have to overcome that. If you're going to be a coalition builder in politics, you have to be, have, you have to have thick skin and you have to have slick skin, things that just go off you.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (22:37)

Yeah. Well said.

Blake (22:38)

And I'd say that was a very strong talent of Charlie and something that developed over time. Charlie was constantly improving as we talked about him. Improving in his faith as a family member, but he was also improving as a politician. As he aged, he was maturing.

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Caller Anthony/David (24:52)

Hey, how are we doing today?

Charlie Kirk (Host) (24:53)

Doing great, doing great, thanks.

Blake (24:55)

What's the question?

Caller Anthony/David (24:56)

My question is, first of all, I want to thank you for having Congressman Calvert for coming on talking about voter id. My second statement would be how do we get the rest of our, our.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (25:11)

Candidates front and center so we know.

Caller Anthony/David (25:14)

Right now who to vote for, for, for the primaries? Because it seems like we're lacking.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (25:22)

Are you in California, David?

Caller Anthony/David (25:24)

I'm in communist California, yes.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (25:26)

Okay. So are you specifically asking how you can get your candidates front and center in California?

Caller Anthony/David (25:33)

California or. Yeah, probably in California. Yeah, because you talked about, I heard you talked about.

Caller Gigi (25:43)

That.

Caller Anthony/David (25:44)

You know, how do we unite the people? Some of these people we can't unite because they're not our clients.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (25:51)

Sure, sure, sure, sure. So yeah, I mean, listen, I will say that, you know, Congressman Calvert, he's probably going to be the congressman at, you know, in the 41st district, the new 41st district. And he's a guy that, you know, just has a great grassroots army behind him. He's been doing this since 1993 in the state of California. So he's probably going to win that, that race. He's going to be one of the few Republicans on a nationwide basis out of the, out of California that remain after Prop 50. So as far as you know, by the way, that people don't realize how expensive a petition drive of that magnitude is. It's about 7 million bucks so far. It's probably going to cost them close to about nine when they're all said and done just to get that very popular measure on the ballot in November 2026. And hopefully that does pass and they are able to withstand the negativity that's about to come their way when it is.

Blake (26:44)

Now regarding the midterm candidates, one, you're just going to see a lot of them here because we obviously give, we had Andy Biggs on as an example just the other day.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (26:53)

But you'll see more gradually.

Blake (26:55)

We're just going to gradually escalate how many of these people are, wait, Jay Feely, is he the, was he quarterback?

Charlie Kirk (Host) (27:01)

Yeah, he was.

Blake (27:03)

Or a kicker or something?

Charlie Kirk (Host) (27:04)

Yeah. So he's some sort of sports NFL guy. We're going to ask him. Man, I'm going to, I'm Trump endorsed here in Arizona. That's another one.

Blake (27:09)

No, that's awesome. But, and, but you'll see more of them. You're going to primarily see them, of course, in the races. We're most focused on Arizona because they're local, we can have them in. And it's the state we care most about, swing states, generally, the swing races, we're going to be very fixated on those. But we reach further afield, we'll probably end up talking to some, we'll probably end up talking to some of these Indiana Republicans. We're going to have to have unseating state lawmakers there. It's, you'll primarily see the races we're most involved in, but obviously we care about the races all over the country and we will be doing what we can to raise awareness for them. But, you know, currently we haven't had primaries in most of the places.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (27:49)

I was going to say that's when you're going to, you're going to see a lot of them. You stole my answer. The primary process, I mean, done best, it's supposed to be a sifting process, right. But what ends up happening in a general sense is they spend more money. There's a lot more media spend, they raise money. You're going to hear about them more, they're going to be doing more media. So I mean, the local gop, state GOP in California is a pretty divided bunch. There's kind of the more moderate wing versus the more maga wing. And it's a mess, I'm not going to lie. Especially in California, it's a bit of a mess. So you got to do your best and be a consumer of the information and be deliberate and then send us emails. Freedomarliekirk.com, we'll do our best to also listen to you, especially if you're a member. We see your emails come through all the time, trust me. So hopefully it was helpful. But the strength of the candidate has to shine through. They have to shine through. They have to cut through the noise. That is the challenge of a candidate, especially in this media landscape. Julia, you're next here on the Charlie Kirk Show. Please unmute yourself. What is your question?

Caller Julia (28:54)

Hi, can you guys hear me?

Blake (28:55)

Yes, we can.

Caller Gigi (28:56)

Yay.

Caller Julia (28:57)

I'm so excited to be talking to you guys. Thank you so much.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (29:00)

Welcome, welcome. Thanks Julia.

Caller Julia (29:02)

So I wanted to ask you guys a question or two if there's extra time. But my first question is my family and I are from Canada, Communist Canada. And we ran from Canada in 2022. We were persecuted and we lost everything, jobs, schooling. We didn't comply. So we were the outcasts of society and ran legally. We came to the US and I went to school for music and I graduated. I finished and now it's now, now what? How can I stay and contribute to this amazing country not get sent back to communism, basically. So my question is, what do you guys think about H1B visas? I had a company offer me one and I know that your show has talked about it a little bit. So what are your guys thoughts on that?

Blake (29:50)

So what we make of on H1BS as a national policy, we've been critical of it because it's very clear in our opinion that H1Bs have been used. They've helped deskill America. We've gotten companies addicted to an alternative way of getting workers. So they don't need to train Americans as much. They can pay workers less. But obviously that's us talking on a national level. On an individual level, we can tell you are a great.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (30:15)

We would like more people, we would.

Blake (30:17)

Love to have people like you. And we would much rather have an H1B job go to you than to someone who will be a parasite, who will be a future daycare welfare entrepreneur.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (30:28)

Or something from the learning center.

Blake (30:29)

And so if you have that opportunity, we would 100% encourage you to take it because that's we have to always be reasonable. That, and you know, an individual good immigrant doesn't mean oh, we should have open borders. And a person who you could make a good use of an H1B doesn't mean we should have H1BS as widely used as they are now or in the same way. But 100% if you have a job that would require H1B is just because we are critical of that program doesn't mean you shouldn't take it.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (30:57)

Yeah. And take advantage of your legal opportunity to use an H1B. And yeah, obviously there's a difference between the macro and the micro. You're going to hear us criticize H1BS from a macro. But as a micro individual level, by all means pursue that. Go with God. But yeah, I do hope the H1B program gets abolished entirely. I think it's been on the whole a very destructive policy for Our country. What was your other question?

Caller Julia (31:25)

For sure. Thank you, guys. And by the way, I also agree with you. So I've been kind of, like, figuring out what I need to do next. But my next question is, I do wanna get married. And I've met a lot of people in Canada and in the US I don't feel like I've missed my boat by any means. I'm very much with my family and the Lord with this, so I'm not afraid of anything like that. But a lot of the guys that I'm meeting at church down here, there's lots of guys, but they're very young and immature and they are not financially ready to have families and this kind of stuff. So I feel like as the days go by, more and more I'm looking for someone older who's already financially stable, who I guess is just more mature than me and I can look up to them, that kind of thing. So I know that. Yeah.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (32:11)

Where do you. How old are you and where do you live?

Caller Julia (32:13)

I'm 24 and I'm in Houston, Texas, right now.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (32:16)

Okay, continue.

Caller Julia (32:18)

Okay, 24.

Blake (32:19)

You haven't missed the boat? You're 24.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (32:21)

She said she didn't think she'd missed the boat. Yeah, yeah.

Caller Julia (32:23)

No, I don't think I did. I just. I've met a lot of people and I'm sure some people are like, what are you doing? But anyways, so, yeah, I've met a lot of people, and they're just. They're really young, and I just want to meet someone who I respect, who's older than me, who I can look up to, and I trust that they can take care of a family. So do you guys think that women these days just have too high of a standard and, like, we're part of the problem? Or my. I'm being part of the problem by having too high of a standard or is my concerns right? If that makes sense.

Blake (32:55)

I don't want to talk too at length about this because I am not married, but I would say, especially at your age, remember that marriage is not. You're not getting married to a finished product. You yourself are not a finished product. An ideal marriage, you are growing together and you're spending your life together. So if there are men who are not financially ready yet, you should be able to use your mind and use a reasonable dating process to think, is this a person who will mature, who will grow into someone who can support a family and you can make that decision. Like, if they're in school, are they Studying a serious subject. Are they getting a job that has long term potential? You know, you're in Houston. So a guy who's getting a job in the energy sector and he's getting a degree in petroleum engineering or in finance, that's very different from maybe a guy who's 24 and he just, he doesn't have a strong sense on what he wants out of life. And you can tell he's not making long term plans. So I think you can look for those with younger men and then you can still have reasonable confidence, especially if you are a good partner who is supportive, that they will grow into a stronger person. I just throw that out there to say, don't be automatically dismissive of guys who are your own age just because they aren't worth $2 million and they don't own a house yet. And I've seen that. I guess, like I said, I'm not married, but I've seen this in my own family. My sister got married while still in college. Obviously her husband was not wealthy yet, or he's not wealthy now, but he was a serious person. He has a good job now and I'm confident they will be successful in the long term. He didn't need to already be super financially independent yet. That's what I'd say. But I should let Andrew talk about this because he's married.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (34:43)

As the married guy on this, no. I actually don't have a lot to add. I thought that was a lot of wisdom there. Blake. I. My wife and I got married when I didn't have two nickels to rub together. And it was the best decision I ever made. And I would also just say maybe it's trite, but you should find somebody that you're attracted to and that you love and that you share values with. My wife and I, from a faith perspective, shared our values and we prayed together and we went to church together and there was zero conflict on that. And the other thing is we just like to do the same things a lot of the time. You know, these are basic things that sometimes we can overthink. You know, do you like doing the same things? Do you like hanging out together? And I think you marry that with, you know, pun intended, with everything. Blake said that. Are they a serious person? Do they have long term goals? Are they talented? Are they capable? Are they competent? You know, those people are gonna, are going to ultimately succeed. Something's gonna break their way and opportunities gonna come up. So, you know, you gotta bet on somebody sometimes. And you know, young love can be a really beautiful thing, especially when you have faith in common and values in common. So Godspeed. I'm sure it's going to work out for you. Seem like a lovely lady and somebody's going to be very, very lucky to snatch you up. So awesome.

Caller Julia (35:55)

Thank you.

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Charlie Kirk (Host) (37:06)

Who'S next? Who do we got here? Next? Is it Gigi? Gigi, please unmute yourself. What's your question? Gigi?

Caller Gigi (37:13)

Hey, so I really heard a lot from Charlie about his stress of just classic literature and lots of good things for just consuming. And I think he really cared a lot about today the problems that are just within storytelling I guess and just all entertainment culture and people are just always consuming poison and thinking it's just brownies and stuff like that.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (37:37)

Yeah.

Caller Gigi (37:39)

So I'm wondering what are just like the worst probably top three probably just specific problems within the entertainment culture today. And for context, I mean Charlie really inspired me in my time in Turning point to I'm 19, starting a non profit myself right now and it's literally called create with purpose because I just want kids and students to just like fight the incoherence and in worldviews and try to get back to putting and instilling this godly worldview and the values that are missing from all our stories and stuff. So, yeah, I'm really wondering just what are the top three maybe things to really think about in getting students to change, I guess, in this culture.

Blake (38:24)

What are the worst, most poisonous influences in entertainment culture today?

Charlie Kirk (Host) (38:28)

I think it's. You kind of touched on it, Gigi, but it's this moral cloudiness, the incoherence in the moral viewpoint of the secular left. I mean, there really is no up or down, right or left. It's all sort of, what do you feel? What do you make of it? So when you talk about this in education as well, the root word means to lead forth. So you have to. In order to lead forth, you have to know where you're going, and it has to be rooted in something transcendent, eternal, good. True. But if you don't know what the truth is, then you're just leading. It's the blind leading the blind. And ultimately, that is modern art, you know, in so many ways. Now, the flip side of that is that the conservative right or the religious right tends to be pretty bad at art because they also close themselves off to a lot of exploration and creativity. And I really do believe, Gigi, that there is something about. You have to know the truth in order to lead people to the truth. You have to be able to articulate with moral clarity. And this is one of the things that Charlie did so well. He had such moral clarity. Things were not complicated for Charlie most of the time. And, you know, I would just say that, you know, you kind of have to marry a willingness to explore the frontiers of different ideas and be edgy while also knowing where you're leading people. And that's why conservatives sometimes struggle with bad art, and that's why liberals and progressives tend to make destructive art. And so the best forms and versions of that are with people with a moral clarity and a place where they're leading people to go. And I would say, look at the Bible. The best narratives in the history of the world all come out of the Bible. The archetypes are biblical archetypes because they speak to something truly fundamental about the human experience. And so a lot of the best films and TV shows are essentially tracking on a character arc or a plot arc what biblical narratives have done. Right. The Exodus story is one of those. The hero's journey is another one of those. And so these are the stories that animate the human soul. And I think you can use those as a foundation to then build other narratives off of. And I think most of the successful Oscar winners Throughout the years, at least classically and traditionally have been. Essentially, it's just a biblical narrative that has been adapted to some other context.

Blake (40:52)

Well done. I think we have two questions still in queue. Let's get them. Let's get them through. Let's have. Christine, can you hear us? Unmute yourself.

Caller Julia (40:59)

Hi, all.

Caller Christine (40:59)

Thanks for having me on and thanks for all the amazing work you guys are doing.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (41:04)

Thank you.

Caller Christine (41:04)

My question is, I live in Oklahoma City. I'm a mom of three young kids, and we just applied to two Christian Bible teaching schools for my oldest. And one of the things I remember Charlie talking about the most is how the greatest gift you can give a child is a Christian education from a Bible teaching school. And I think he went on to say, and to also know that there is a God and they are not it. And I think about that all the time when I'm racing raising my kids. But my question is the, the waitlist for these schools just outnumbers the amount of spots that they have. And so what can we do just as individuals or as a greater movement to ensure that every child, every parent who wants a Christian education for their child has the opportunity?

Blake (41:53)

Well, the merciful thing we have is we do live in a relatively free country. So especially in your state, I have to imagine it's easier than in most. If you wanted to start a new one. I'm not putting that on you to say you should start a school, but ideally, new schools do open to meet that demand because people do want these Bible, these Christian academies. The other alternative, of course, is there is homeschooling and such. I know that is also a lot to ask of somebody, but that has gotten easier than ever. I will say. Homeschooling 30 years ago was really challenging. You had to do it yourself in a lot of ways. And it was associated with weirder people. Not saying they are, but that was the association. Now way more people do it. There's endless resources online for every subject. So you don't need to be an expert on everything. There's Christian resources that you can use for every subject. You can have a Christian math textbook. A friend of mine used one for his kids.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (42:50)

Could I just. Since we're running out of time. So I recently had to go through something similar because I had to move my family to Arizona. There was a wait list for the Christian school that we wanted to send our kids to. We toured like five or six of them.

Caller Gigi (43:03)

And.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (43:03)

And, you know, we just went and met with the leadership of the school and met with some of the teachers and they actually made space for us. And so there's always that option, you know, do a little old school politic and internally get, get, get in touch with them directly face to face conversations, explain why you would be a value add to that community. Because schools want good people, they want good families, they want good parents. And so if they see in you the kind of people that they want populating their, their community and their student body, they're going to try and make space for you. They really will. And then on that note, it's already funny because there's been two offshoots from the school that we're now a part of, to Blake's point, that are starting their own. One wants to go more of a classical education direction. One wants to go a little bit more smaller school class sizes. So there's all these offshoots from the ones the school we're in.

Blake (43:50)

We really are, we complain a lot. We're blessed on the education front that public schools have gotten bad, but the actual options that are available to parents are better than ever. And in a lot of red states, you can now often, I don't know.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (44:01)

If Oklahoma State, I'm looking at it right now, Homeschool families qualify for a thousand bucks. You get credit amounts of 5,000 to 7,500 per eligible student based on tuition.

Blake (44:09)

Fees, but also vouchers for private schools as well.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (44:11)

That's what it is.

Blake (44:12)

Exactly. So, so our options are getting better and better. And so we wish you the best of luck with that. One last, one last question here.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (44:21)

Yep. And we got Greg. Greg, please unmute yourself. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. What's your question? We got.

Caller Anthony/David (44:27)

Okay, first you had a show that talked about a bill passed in 65 about limiting positions. I think Carmilla was the talking Carmu Cremu.

Blake (44:40)

Oh yeah, the, the data guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Caller Anthony/David (44:43)

Do you think, did you bring it up to the Trump administration to see if they could change that anyway?

Charlie Kirk (Host) (44:49)

Yes, actually, I, I actually connected him with some people that are working on healthcare stuff.

Caller Gigi (44:54)

So.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (44:55)

Okay.

Blake (44:56)

He definitely has windows into the admin, so which is great.

Caller Anthony/David (45:00)

That's, that's good. Also, you Talked about the 60 vote filibuster recently also. And I just saw Pete Ricketts from Nebraska, Republican, who said that that was part of the way the founder set it up to be. And I was like, really? These guys need an education. You guys need to get up there and get him right now.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (45:19)

Ricketts, what did he say?

Blake (45:21)

Apparently he said the founders wanted the filibuster to exist now?

Charlie Kirk (Host) (45:26)

Well, that this is. These are rules that existed that basically go date back to, I think, the 1912 or something. 19.

Blake (45:33)

Not even that. I think really modern filibuster as we know it is basically 40 years old.

Charlie Kirk (45:38)

Yeah.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (45:39)

The concept of the filibuster evolved starting with a rule change in like the 1912. I looked it up the other day anyways, you know, and we've actually been pushing Senator Lee's idea where you actually make them be on the floor. But apparently even then they could. The way that that rule is, and I talked to some other senators, is that it's just on a single issue of a bill. So you could invent infinity issues. Basically, it wouldn't fix the problem because you get through with one issue, they give up and then they go on to the next issue and they. They do the whole process all over again. So it wouldn't fix the process. So you've got it. You got to sort of say the option that they're now looking at is maybe a limited nuking of the filibuster, but it's partial and it would only apply to funding bills. This is their new idea.

Blake (46:32)

That's how it's really been, is so you used to have you could filibuster Supreme Court nominees, they got rid of that. You could filibuster lower judicial nominees, they got rid of that. Now they'd be getting it. They're clearly chipping away. I suspect eventually the filibuster is going to die and the matter is just who's going to do it and are they going to be able to get value out of doing it? And that's why we've always talked about that. Don't nuke the filibuster unless you will get something useful out of it.

Charlie Kirk (Host) (46:57)

Immigration, voter id, those types of things. Thank you, guys. That was an ask me anything. That's a good one. Lots of good questions.

Blake (47:08)

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