Ask Us Anything 249: Insurrection Act? New World Order Canada? Charlie’s Mentors?

Summary

The Charlie Kirk Show – "Ask Us Anything 249: Insurrection Act? New World Order Canada? Charlie’s Mentors?"

Date: January 19, 2026
Host: Charlie Kirk
Featured: Blake, Mikey McCoy, audience callers

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Episode Overview

This special “Ask Us Anything” edition features Charlie Kirk and his team fielding live questions on hot political topics, all with their signature unapologetically conservative approach. The conversation ranges from the possible invocation of the Insurrection Act, the geopolitical shakeup involving Canada and China, the cultural and spiritual dynamics of Iran, to deep dives into judicial decisions on abortion and Charlie’s personal mentors. The tone is informal, lively, and direct, with a focus on providing actionable answers and unpacking complex political issues for their grassroots audience.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Insurrection Act: Should the GOP Use It?

Timestamps: 03:33 – 10:17

• Caller Question: Should the Insurrection Act be used in response to unrest, or would it hurt the GOP by making them look heavy-handed?
• Blake’s View (04:00): Cautions against using it unless absolutely necessary:
  • “You can’t just look like you’re stomping down on people and recklessly arresting people or doing random roundups.”
• Charlie’s Stance (05:21): Open but wary:
  • Pro-Insurrection Act to deal with acute problems but “I think you could get basically everything you want without the Insurrection Act... If you surge federal forces, you make this thing go away.”
• Media Age Variables: The panel points out how the era of social media changes risk calculus, referencing the 1992 LA Riots as the last analog.
  • “None of these really happened in the modern media era.” (Charlie, 08:34)
• Mandate of Heaven Analogy: Blake explains how chaos itself can erode public support for a president, regardless of policy goals.

Notable Quotes:

• Charlie (05:21): “We are in the process of losing our country... I want the force to be leveled now when we have the levers of power... But, I don’t think you need to go full Insurrection.”
• Blake (09:29): “There’s chaos in the realm... President Donald Trump is the president, so he sort of gets the blame for it.”

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2. Why No “Free Iran” Movement?

Timestamps: 13:51 – 20:30

• Caller Ian (13:51): “Why aren’t those who shout ‘Free Palestine’ standing up for oppressed Iranians?”
• Blake (14:33): The left’s anti-Israel activism is more about cultural coding (“white/European/colonial”) than about real oppression:
  • “They dislike [Israel]... because they’re considered an outpost of colonialism.”
• Charlie (15:55): Notes the spiritual revival among Iranian Christians, drawing contrasts with left-wing selective outrage.
  • “God’s doing miraculous things... People’s hearts are changing in Iran.”
• Intersectionality Problem: Supporting Iranian dissidents requires criticizing Muslim oppressors (“the wrong oppressor” in leftist parlance), which breaks the “Red-Green Alliance”—the left’s coalition with anti-Western Islamists.

Notable Quotes:

• Blake (14:33): “They hate on [Israel] for the same reason they hate ordinary Middle Americans... It’s a proxy for how you view the world.”
• Charlie (16:58): “To go after the Iranian regime would be to admit there is oppression… that doesn’t come from the white man. So it doesn’t fit their narrative.”

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3. Charlie Kirk’s Mentors

Timestamps: 21:38 – 23:13

• Caller Ian (21:38): Asks who mentored Charlie Kirk.
• Team Answers:
  • Bill Montgomery (early support, CPAC ties)
  • Foster Friess (major financial and spiritual backer)
  • Dennis Prager (“Charlie would listen to all of Dennis Prager’s fireside chats”; Mikey, 22:47)
  • Frank Turek (Christian apologetics influence)

Memorable Moment:

• Charlie bought “staticky and old” Dennis Prager recordings and forced his team to listen during car rides. (Mikey, 23:09)

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4. Wyoming’s Abortion Ruling & Conservative Judicial Challenges

Timestamps: 25:01 – 32:09

• Caller from Wyoming (25:10): Outraged at WY Supreme Court ruling that abortion falls under “health care,” making the state’s abortion ban unconstitutional.
• Blake (27:17): Explains institutional hurdles: “Wyoming has a Supreme Court... picked by the governor, but from a list by a nomination commission dominated by the legal elite.”
• Root Cause (29:27): Western conservatives are more libertarian, less religious; states like WY are less pro-life than presumed.
• Charlie (31:49): Advocates for moral clarity over short-term politics:
  • “I believe your state will be blessed [for banning abortion].”
• Action Steps: Conservatives must focus on grassroots reform of judicial nomination mechanisms and moral/spiritual renewal out west.

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5. Canada’s Pivot Toward China & "New World Order" Fears

Timestamps: 32:22 – 42:35

• Charlie/Blake (32:51): Play clip of Canada’s PM Mark Carney praising partnership with China as “setting us up well for the new world order.”
  • Carney: “The progress... sets us up well for the new world order.” (33:16)
• Strategic Concern: Canada backing away from US tariffs on China and toward Chinese partnership is seen as seismic, potentially making Canada a “proud little puppet state... vassal state of the CCP.” (Charlie, 33:29)
• National Identity: Blake notes Canada’s identity “is bound up with being not America but way more left-wing... exacerbated by Trump’s 51st state jokes.”
• Geopolitics & Security: If Canada became a CCP client, “that is a direct national security issue for the US.” (Charlie, 39:31)
• Panel Cynicism: Team doubts Canada will truly “leave the G7,” seeing posturing rather than realignment.
• Comic Relief: Extended banter on whether Canadian PM Carney is “a beta or not a beta” man (40:35).

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6. Paid Protesters: Should the US Regulate Disclosure?

Timestamps: 42:55 – 48:37

• Caller Josiah: Proposes law to require paid protesters to wear armbands or disclose their funding.
• Panel Discussion:
  • Blake: Skeptical about proof of mass “mercenary” protesting; most activists are true believers embedded in institutions (public sector, NGOs).
  • Charlie: Agrees most activism “is organic,” but some Soros-funded organization/facilitation occurs.
  • Mikey: Argues for more paid activism than others admit, citing regular “plants” (46:06).
• Conclusion: The left’s protest turnout benefits from union, nonprofit, and public sector activist infrastructure, not just direct payment.

Notable Quotes:

• Charlie (46:54): “It takes a few people to start something... if there are 10 people that are getting paid and 10 people that are organizing something, they could get 250, 300 people out there to protest.”

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful.” — Charlie Kirk, [00:03]
• “It also plays into the narrative that they’ve seeded for the last 10 years: ‘Trump’s a tyrant, He's a dictator...’ That’s not at all what's happening. But you have to come to grips with the fact half the country is spewing that narrative.” — Charlie, [10:17]
• “The announcement... is basically an earthquake. Canada has always been in the United States orbit... What he’s saying is the IMF, the WTO institutions that America built are going to be replaced by ones China might build with Canada.” — Blake, [35:43]

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Timestamps for Major Sections

• Insurrection Act Debate: 03:33–10:17
• Iran & Selective Outrage: 13:51–20:30
• Charlie’s Mentors: 21:38–23:13
• Wyoming Abortion Ban Fallout: 25:01–32:09
• Canada, China, and the New World Order: 32:22–42:35
• Paid Protesters & Regulation: 42:55–48:37

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Episode Takeaways

• Strategic Political Messaging: Conservative strategy debates often hinge on optics and narrative control, especially in the age of social media.
• Culture War Analysis: The team frames international politics (Iran, Israel, Canada) in terms of broader cultural and spiritual “battle lines.”
• Grassroots Focus: Listeners are encouraged to get active locally—churches, schools, judicial reforms—to effect change.
• Occasional Comic Relief: Frequent banter keeps the discussion lively—e.g., whether a globalist leader is a “beta” or not.

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Transcript

[Charlie Kirk]

My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Turning Point USA College chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA High School chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life. And I encourage you to do the same. Here I am, Lord.

[Blake]

Use me.

[Charlie Kirk]

Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. The Charlie Kirk show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold. But the leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends and viewers.

All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Hour two is underway. It's an Ask us anything hour. To help us navigate is Mikey McCoy. He's in the house.

[Mikey McCoy]

Not so special guest.

[Charlie Kirk]

You don't have your maduro mustache.

[Mikey McCoy]

I know.

[Charlie Kirk]

For our thoughtcrime fans out there, big letdown. Big letdown. You surprised us all. His wife made him shave it off.

[Blake]

His wife made him shave it off. I am, of course, wearing this blanket. The studio just asked me what I am wearing. Well, so you know, when people ask me what Phoenix is like, I tell them two things. One, it's too cold in Phoenix. It's not too hot. Everyone asked how hot it is? No, it's too cold because everything is ac'd too much. And that's doubly so for a studio. Cause the equipment can't get too hot. So it's super cold in here.

[Mikey McCoy]

58 degrees in here right now.

[Blake]

And two, it rains all the time in Phoenix. And so Mikey was rather cold, so he brought in blankets for all of us. And they're like, just keeping it on their legs. But I decided to.

[Mikey McCoy]

Prove us wrong. We don't have blankets.

[Charlie Kirk]

This is our ask us anything hour. Before we do that, I do want to show again because the team has done such a great job with this, getting the OG the original Charlie merch line back up. This is really cool. Loaded at 5:24. Charliekirkstore.com Charliekirkstore.com this is the merch store and we also have all the new stuff. We have the freedom shirts so please check it out. The team has done a really, really amazing job with that, Heidi, and the team. So thank you. And I told them that I would do a better job of supporting their work.

[Mikey McCoy]

Be better, work harder.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh. And that I do. We sell these to be better, work harder. So I'm wearing that. That was Charlie's favorite, one of his favorite sayings. So without further ado, we've got Anthony and then Ian. Anthony, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. What is your question? Good to see you again or hear from.

[Anthony]

What's going on, guys? Well, first thing, Andrew, really, with your team last night. Really? Before I get to my question, you.

[Charlie Kirk]

Talk about Tucker, Kyle Tucker. Oh, Yeah, I know.

[Anthony]

Four years, 240 million, 6 million a year.

[Charlie Kirk]

This. This is. This is what I got for you. Hold on. Literally, I'm on a chat. I'm on a chat. And this. This. I don't know. The studio might revolt. I need you to throw this up on the studio. Studio, throw this up. This is what I say to all the haters out there. Come on, throw it up. Yeah, you mad? Here's a cape. Now you could be super bad.

[Anthony]

Okay.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right.

[Anthony]

So to my question, the Insurrection Act, I sit on the fence with it. I understand the purpose of why it should be done. But with the midterms, could this hurt the gop because we see Americans like, why this is bad. This is not our country. I'm going to vote against you. Even some Republicans might vote against GOP people.

[Blake]

I think that's a great question. And it's. It really has to be at the heart of everything we do. Let's be real. We live in a country with elections where political issues matter, where the way something looks matters. And we've talked about that a bit on this show with this ICE showdown that I hope in the White House. Inside ice, they are having discussions. How are we going to handle possible confrontations and showdowns that can happen? So we said, for example, if they're trying to use police, if they follow through on threats to have police directly block ICE or try to arrest ICE officers? Don't wing your response to that. They need to say, what should we be? What are we telling ICE agents to do if a local police officer tries to detain them for arresting an illegal? What should they do if these local police officers are getting in the way? That all has to be planned out. And the same goes for the Insurrection act, because you're absolutely right. You can't just look like you're stomping down on people and recklessly arresting people or doing random roundups. You have to make that case. We're going after malefactors who are recklessly breaking the law. And so frankly, I know our guests were just arguing in favor of it. I personally feel if it's 200 people around one federal building, I'm not sure I'm Sold on Insurrection act yet. That might be send more federal agents and make sure these people are getting arrested before I would go full bore and say we need to call out.

[Charlie Kirk]

The military for a few actually agree with that. I was thinking about it in the break and I'm very, I'm very pro Insurrection act, first of all, because I think you deal with this issue quickly, then it goes away quickly, right? And then we get to focus on which, I don't know, fraud in Somalia. And again, remember, people have very short term memories. And when you draw these things out too long, it sinks deeper into the subconscious. It's when you get Joe Rogan and other people that are like, listen, I think Joe Rogan is the goat of podcasters. I think he's more good than bad. He's wrong about this and it's because he's a normie. It's because he's not like a policy wonk. He's not thinking through all of this. And secondly, he doesn't understand or is not connected to the fact that these issues that we know, and Blake and I fully understand this because we've looked at the fertility rates, we've looked at the long term implications. We are in the process of losing our country. The erasure of American culture is happening now unless we stop it. And I don't want that country for my kids. I don't want third worldism in my country. I don't want a country wrought by fraud and corruption and Somali pirates. I'm done with it. I don't want it. I want the force to be leveled now when we have the levers of power. That being said, I think you could get basically everything you want without the Insurrection Act. If you search federal forces, you make this thing go away. Zero degree temperatures at night, we're going to see this problem go away quicker. I think if you handle it in a suave, smoother way. I don't think you need to go full insurrection.

[Blake]

All right, Mikey, break the tie.

[Mikey McCoy]

No pro Insurrection act, but I do think you need to kind of counterbalance it a little bit, especially going into the midterms, because we should be and could be seeing Trump out there campaigning right now and doing massive Rallies and when there's crazy news. But then to Andrew's point, the more you talk about it, the more it's an obsession, the more it has this microscope on it and any small mistake, people just hyper fixate to.

[Charlie Kirk]

But that's why they fund the protests too. This is why they Soros seed money, some of these far left groups, because you can get 200 people and you could shave off five points of popularity for Trump, 200 people.

[Mikey McCoy]

But if everybody's focusing right now on everything that ICE is doing, why don't we use the opportunity to put Fauci in prison and do some other crazy stuff to make some news, you know?

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, I mean, that's not a bad idea. Well, listen, I know the base would love that. I mean, here's the thing. We have to confront this fact. I mean, everybody here at this table wants and demands results right away. We want all these people gone. We want mass deportations, frankly, I want a net zero immigration moratorium, something Charlie and I talked about a lot. I want us all of these things, right? These are the things that are really gonna deliver results. Voter id, everything. But when you start getting into these militarized street altercations, you just have to understand that the vast majority of the country is not thinking down the road like we are. They're thinking about their video games, they're thinking about grocery bills, they're not thinking about demographic replacement that's happening in the country and want real results now. And so you just have to understand that and play that out politically. Plus, we live in the era of social media, where every fricking video, you know, if you think about Insurrection act has been called, what, 17 times in U.S. history.

[Blake]

30 times in history.

[Charlie Kirk]

17 presidents. Yeah, yeah. By 17 presidents. None of these really happened in the modern media era. The closest analog we would have parallel was LA in 92. And that was still like over the shoulder cameras. Right. We didn't have social media, phones and all of the things. So the whole calculus has to be approached differently. That's why I think you almost have to. You have to be subtler. You have to sort of try and make the crowds disperse, attack them one by one, get it done quick.

[Blake]

And there's an interesting thing to think about this. Do you know what the mandate of heaven is?

[Charlie Kirk]

I want to say yes, but the.

[Blake]

Chinese historically have a concept of heaven, which is that a ruler who is good will have the mandate of heaven and a ruler who is losing the mandate of heaven, I.e. the heavens, are displeased at this rule, bad things will happen to him. No, no, it's not stupid.

[Mikey McCoy]

No. Because if the ruler just dies for no reason, they're like, oh, he lost the heaven.

[Blake]

No, no, no, no, it's not like that. What it is, is a dynasty is losing the Mandate of Heaven. And the evidence is that there are signs of Heaven's displeasure.

[Charlie Kirk]

And.

[Blake]

And that is. It would be like natural disasters would be signs of this, but also rebellions and chaos breaking out. And the reason I mentioned that is I think there's an element of that in how the American people will react to something like this. So your best argument for the Insurrection act is if they can shut this down immediately. But the biggest worry would be, what if they try to shut it down? And instead you get similar outbreaks in cities across the United States. And the reason they'll be upset, it's not even how they feel about immigration policy or one way or the other. They'll just think like, oh, there's chaos. There's chaos in the realm. And they're not thinking in literal Mandate of Heaven terms, but they'll be thinking, bad stuff seems to be going on in cities. There's chaos. And President Donald Trump is the president, so he sort of gets the blame for it. And that would be the biggest question.

[Charlie Kirk]

It also plays into the narrative that they've ceded for the last 10 years. Trump's a tyrant, He's a dictator, he's a fascist. Look it now we have jackboot thugs masked on the streets arresting American citizens. That's not at all what's happening. But you still have to come to grips with the fact that half the country is spewing that narrative. And then you have Joe Rogan, people like that picking it up. And that's where the problem ensues. We'll be right back with Ian. Don't go anywhere. If you're stressed about getting out of debt, it's go time. Seriously, this is one of those moments where timing actually matters. Done with debt is one of the best I've seen at navigating debt relief. 2025 was a record year. They enrolled over 102 million DOL in debt. For our listeners and others, here's why I'm telling you about this now, though. According to the Federal Reserve's latest survey, many banks have tightened their standards. Right now may be the best window to negotiate settlements before lenders tighten further. Done with Debt tracks credit card and loan company behavior. This is what they know. They're experienced at knowing who is negotiating and when and what it takes to get you the biggest reduction possible. And Whether you're carrying 10,000 or $500,000 in debt, this is probably the best chance you'll get all year.

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[Blake]

You know how much money $45 billion is?

[Charlie Kirk]

It's like, it's like, it's like one, it's like five Somalis.

[Blake]

It's like 1/3 of the LA Dodgers payroll.

[Mikey McCoy]

Wow.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's not true. Listen, I'm all in favor of paycheck baseball because listen, we're two, two World Series in a row. It's good for baseball to have a villain, by the way. It is because now everybody has a.

[Blake]

It was called the New York Yankees.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I know. And you know, it's funny, I got, I got two texts from New York Yankees fans last night after the, the Tucker signing. And it, it's like amazing because like, even they're bitter at us. And I'm like, you guys have all the money in the world. I mean, until mom Donnie taxes you, you to smithereens and all that. But I mean, it's not like LA doesn't have high taxes as well. Ian, you're up next.

[Ian]

Hey, go Dodgers. First and foremost, man.

[Charlie Kirk]

My man calling.

[Ian]

I will say too, the, the, the members, the members only lounge was one of the best parts of AM Fest. So definitely, definitely worth it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Members.charlie kirk.com please join us. And join us there.

[Blake]

It wasn't just special guests. We just would go out there and we just take questions.

[Charlie Kirk]

Totally. Yeah. That was, by the way, one of the things we're going to be doing. I was talking with E about this. We're, we're going to be doing. You don't even know this yet. But we're going to, we're going to do. We're going to have, like, family business calls. Like, we're just going to do a zoom call. Everybody can join and we'll ask you what you want us to cover. So if we're missing stories that you think are important, if you want to have us book certain guests, whatever, like, we'll just deal all of that. You guys can kind of be. Become into the producer world with us. And so. Really looking forward to that. So we're going to be rolling that out soon. What's your question, Ian?

[Ian]

Yeah, so I, I had a couple, but my main one is, I just. I just don't understand with all these people that are shouting free Palestine earlier the last couple years, why are they not saying the same thing about Iran? My, My dad's from Tehran, Iran.

[Lane Schoenberger]

He.

[Ian]

He Left there in 1977 to get away from the revolution that was coming. And now they have. Now the people are fighting back. And it's. It's pretty clear to me it's a spiritual battle. You know what I mean? There's people that are Christian over there and they're hiding underground and they're converting to Christianity and mass and being killed. And it's just. It's just crazy to me that this isn't like, national news. Like, it's just being, like, swept under the rug. So I, I just don't know what.

[Charlie Kirk]

So many thoughts. Blake, do you. Do you want to take it first? I mean, there's a lot.

[Blake]

One of the funny things is you do hear some of them do it, but there's a true split in the left. And you really see some of these. There was a coalition that came together that essentially centered on hating Israel, and they're now fracturing over this because some of them are like, do we just like democracy and protests, or do we kind of like Iran because they shot missiles at Israel? You see a real split on this. And the answer, honestly, one of the biggest reasons for why they don't care is it gets at the heart of why so many people dislike Israel in the first place. And it's because, frankly, for a lot of them, they dislike it. Some of them dislike it because it's Jewish, some of it, but a lot of them dislike it because it's culturally European, because they're culturally considered white, essentially, because they're considered an outpost of colonialism. They basically. They like to hate on them. They hate on them for the same reason they hate ordinary Middle Americans or the reason they hate natives of Britain. Or natives of Germany or native Swedes. And so that is their safe way for them to really amp themselves up in enjoying that hatred. That's why you saw BLM Chicago celebrate 10 7, because they would like to do 107 in your neighborhood too. They just can't get away with it. And indulging that for Iran, where they're actually trying to overthrow a tyrannical regime that doesn't code as any of those things, doesn't give them that release they want. That's what's at the heart of it, in my opinion.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I think. I think I agree with a lot of that. And I just want to underscore what you said. There's a ton of Christians. People don't realize this. And I actually have a pastor friend of mine who's going to visiting me in about a week who's been doing street evangelism. He's gotten arrested a couple times in Iran by doing this. And he said that after Charlie died that these. They started praying for these kids. They would go out in the street. Before, it was pretty kind of, kind of timid. And now they're just like roaring lions. That's his words, not mine. And they'll go out and they have just so much energy and courage to go share the gospel all over Iran. So this is happening as we speak. I believe that God's doing miraculous things. He's showing up in dreams, in visions, and people's hearts are changing in Iran. And I think that a lot of people. You know, we had Elica Laban on earlier this week, and she was explaining the religious dynamics of Iran are not exactly what you think. I think there's a lot of devout Muslims. I sort of have somewhat of a disagreement, but there is a lot more variety in mix. I mean, she was right about there historically been a Zoroastrianism or whatever. You know, more about this.

[Blake]

Well, that's. That's 1500 years ago.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's a long, long time ago. But. Yeah, but those, those predicates are there. And the legacy, I think, has an impact on a larger cultural level. But the point is Iran is a very mixed place. It's a very diverse place. And there's a lot of dynamics that we're not really aware of as Westerners. But here's ultimately to Blake's point, it is to go after the Iranian regime would be to admit that there is oppression, real oppression, political, spiritual, economic, that doesn't come from the white man. So it doesn't fit their narrative. This is coming straight from One of their, you know, intersectional privileged classes. It's coming from other Muslims. So Muslims are oppressing Muslims, therefore it doesn't fit into any of their convenient narratives. Therefore they're uninterested. Whereas Hamas, Israel, Israel was the white European coded versus the brown people. So they instantly saw oppressor versus oppressed. This doesn't work in any of that narrative and it exposes the truth and the lies that they have been believing and spreading. So they want nothing to do with it. And it. Go ahead, Mikey.

[Mikey McCoy]

No, I mean you have it right. It's the oppressor and the oppressed. But ultimately, I mean in the situation of free Palestine, the oppressed is the Palestinians and the oppressor is the Jews. And in Iran the oppressor is a Muslim regime and the oppressed are women that have to wear hajibs. And so Americans just like objectively care more about Jews oppressing us all the time. And so we're going to care more.

[Charlie Kirk]

About that women are being oppressed. It's not just women by the way. I mean, but it's young people, it's anybody that the merchants.

[Mikey McCoy]

I love how much out of cure.

[Blake]

Business owners Silk Road is being broken down by the Ayatollah.

[Mikey McCoy]

I'll play devil's advocate here. I mean when we send aid and money and resources to the oppressor, then it's easier for Americans to want to team up with the oppressed because part of their tax paying dollars.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's a good, that's a good point.

[Mikey McCoy]

Are going to killing the oppressed.

[Charlie Kirk]

And so you're talking about.

[Blake]

It transcends that. The truth is if you read it like look at the history of it. This has just always been a big focus for the entire. The world just cares about Israel, Palestine on either side more. It's a bigger microphone, it's a symbol what you feel about the Israel Palestine conflict. It has, it's a proxy, it has identity. It's a proxy for how you view the world. So are you pro this or pro that? And that I think is what causes it to have such enduring power. In the same way there are kind of symbolic issues in America that might people care about them?

[Charlie Kirk]

Maybe. No, but yeah, yes. And I, and I totally agree with that. But I do think that there is another piece of it where it just simply cuts against this intersectional coalition that they. The Red Green alliance. Right. Because in order to come out in favor of one side or the other in Iran, you essentially have to come out against part of your Red Green alliance. You have to come out against, you know, Muslims which are, which are part of this, this communist Islamist coalition. Mamdani, all of these things. So it just, it's just inconvenient for them. That's, that's the truth.

[Mikey McCoy]

Oh, ultimately I think Blake is right. It's just such a big topic of like Israel, Palestine. It's like the topic that literally never goes away. Whereas like Iran is an issue right now. Just how like Christians in Nigeria were an issue a month ago. Like Christians are still being persecuted in Nigeria, but we're not talking about.

[Blake]

It's almost. There's, there's infrastructure around the issue to keep people actually caring about it.

[Mikey McCoy]

I wonder why. You know, it's almost like people have like a deep hatred.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's because people want to see America burn. They really do. These people hate capitalism, they hate European culture, which they believe is the main driver of capitalism around the world. And therefore they want to dismantle white culture, European heritage, Western world. They hate Christendom because it's the backdrop and the bedrock of the backbone and the bedrock of the structures that enliven it and that allow it to continue existing. And it really is all of these things become enemy number one. And that's why you see anti white hatred in a majority white country is because they're growing in size, we're shrinking in size. They can feel that their power is expanding. And that's why what was so powerful, what Trump did actually in 2024 was because we had a multi ethnic coalition of people that were wanting the actual American dream. They just wanted more money in their pockets, they wanted more take home pay, they wanted better jobs, they wanted more economic opportunities. Those are winning messages and we have to stay on points down message. We have a next question from.

[Blake]

We have actually have a follow up from Ian that I think is a pretty good one.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, go for it.

[Blake]

So he's asking follow up. Who are Charlie? Oh, wait. I mean, is he. Are you still there, Ian? You can, you can. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

Just.

[Ian]

Yeah. So I just wanted to know basically who are Charlie's like biggest mentors? Because like you try googling it and it's just a mess right now. So.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah. And well he also added so many.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Mikey McCoy]

Like, and it was also for like different seasons or different subjects and different subjects. And so like the people that got him there at the beginning is you have Bill Montgomery who Charlie talked about. You can even read about him on Charlie's Wikipedia page.

[Charlie Kirk]

Bill was like a kindly old guy from Chicago who was like the Guy you'd see at CPAC handing out tracks.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah, exactly.

[Charlie Kirk]

Like wearing the American flag with an eagle on it. He was just kind of like, you know, and.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah, but he would like bring Charlie to the room, like as a young person. It's very uncomfortable to put yourself in like the room, the situation. But he would like bring him there. And then he met Foster Freeze, who is kind of one of his early on mentors and continued being a big mentor.

[Blake]

Yeah.

[Mikey McCoy]

And then also like spiritually, morally, and then educationally, like, he would kind of pick different people. Like, Dennis Prager was one, I was one.

[Blake]

He'd bring up a lot.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Charlie would listen to all of Dennis Prager's fireside chats.

[Mikey McCoy]

More than that, you listened to all.

[Charlie Kirk]

Team listen to him, do notes on them and break them down for him.

[Mikey McCoy]

Charlie got bought the 1980. It was like the what? I don't even know what you call them. Like those things you put in. It was like recordings of Dennis from like 19.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, you're talking about like a.

[Mikey McCoy]

Like a camcorder.

[Charlie Kirk]

It was like a. Yeah, and.

[Mikey McCoy]

And it was staticky and old. And it was when Dennis was like 20. So this was a long time ago.

[Charlie Kirk]

What do you call that? It's like the eight high or shoot. Yeah, no, it's before that.

[Blake]

Yep.

[Mikey McCoy]

But Charlie bought those and would listen to them and you'd be in this like two hour car ride with Charlie and you're like falling asleep because Charlie's like listening to Dennis. But also Frank Turek, you know, he.

[Charlie Kirk]

Had so many millimeters. There was the Beta, Betamax. These are the things before vhs.

[Mikey McCoy]

Well, there you go.

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I wish somebody would ask about Canada just for. We would love to talk about Canada. Oh yeah, if you have Canada questions. If you have a Canada question, definitely.

[Blake]

Ping us because we were talking about talking about it. But for now we have. Micah, Micah, are you there? Unmute yourself and what's your question?

[Charlie Kirk]

Hey, good day gentlemen.

[Ian]

Howdy.

[Caller from Wyoming]

I'm calling in today from the state of Wyoming. I don't have a question about Canada, but I do have a question about a recent ruling from our state supreme court court on the 6th of December. So 10 days ago, the state supreme court says that a abortion ban is not constitutional in the state of Wyoming. The court passed this down based on the fact that, that they called abortion health care, which was the court's argument there. So just a couple questions. This of course is a shock in deep red states, especially Wyoming. So questions about what we can do to change future outcomes like this and then also how we can change the libertarian thought process. That's, that's not very strong on the pro life issues. So any thoughts that you have?

[Blake]

Yeah, thank you very much. So while we. Emma notified us that a question on this was coming up so I did some like quick research on it and looking into it. And so just for those who are not aware, which I imagine is most people, Wyoming is not our biggest state. So Wyoming has a supreme Court. They're chosen for eight year terms. There's only five of them, eight year terms picked by the governor. It's a deep red state. So we have to be frank about this failure. All five members of the Wyoming Supreme Court were chosen by a Republican governor. They have to pick from a list of nominees that are submitted by, by a judicial nominating commission in the state. I don't know how that, how the staff of that is chosen. But you see, basically this is how you can get a lot of this stuff is this indirect nomination. Instead of the governor just picking whoever he wants, they instead have this nominating commission. The governor then picks from the three nominees they put forward. And then there is a retention election on the statewide ballot. And because I'm approaching this quite recently, I don't know the exact way these specific justices were chosen, but clearly.

[Charlie Kirk]

But what's the rationale? The judge's rationale.

[Blake]

So the rationale on the decision by the way, is. So first of all, they decide abortion just automatically counts as health care. But an interesting part of it, their justification for this, which was also reached by lower courts in the state of Wyoming. When Obamacare was passed back in 2010, the state reacted by passing its own constitutional amendment that basically says Wyomings have a right to make decisions about health care in the state. And the intent of this was to push back on any drive towards centralization. It was against Obamacare, the fear that Obamacare was going to dictate their medical decisions. Oh, you can only get this thing or you're only allowed to have this type of insurance. It was pushing back on that and it had this unintended consequence that happened decade plus down the road. So a few things you have to do. First of all, you have to watch out. You have to watch who's getting on your Supreme Court. First of all, you have to make sure that the people who are getting, who are making the choice of who even can be nominated for the Supreme Court are aligned.

[Charlie Kirk]

I have some intel on this. The Wyoming Judicial Nomination Commission includes the Chief justice, then three lawyers elected by the Wyoming State bar. So there's a state bar question there and that is currently Devin o', Connell, Mandy Good, Clint Langer and then three non lawyers appointed by the governor. So Lisa, so that there's a majority and Rocco o'. Neill.

[Blake]

This is so similar to what they actually had in. Remember when we talked about this in Israel where they were trying to reform the court. So the Chief justice and then three people on the state bar are a majority there. There are three people appointed by someone else non lawyers, but they can have a majority of people that is basically self perpetuating of the state's legal elites and the current Supreme Court justice who's already picked by this mechanism. So frankly I would say first of all, you should probably look into replacing that mechanism and you might need to amend your Constitution to do that. I don't know the way that's done in Wyoming. And I also want to make sure we address the how do you change people's minds? One of the things that's not as well known about these Republican states out west, they are less church, they are less religious than other ones. So if you go to Oklahoma, if you go to Tennessee, there is a high religious affiliation of conservatives.

[Charlie Kirk]

I can vouch for that in Nevada too. Yeah, Same Western states.

[Blake]

Once you get west of kind of the Great Plains line, basically when you cross the Missouri river and the line going down from it, you still have a lot of conservatives, but they are more libertarian. They're less likely to be members of a church even if they vote our way. And so they're less aligned on these issues. So we actually have to continue the work of trying to spiritually witness to these people. You're not just trying to block the decline of religiosity. These are probably the states where you have the most people who are maybe open to it. They vote our way. They have conservative values.

[Charlie Kirk]

They're probably Christian or culturally Catholic, but they're. But they're not conservatism. It's an ethos of the West.

[Blake]

But it's also. They just didn't grow up. These places have never had as many churches. You know, in the south, it's that you're in a church culture because there's been churches there for 200 years. And your parent, your grandparent, your. Maybe your great grandfather built the church and your grandparents remembers, your parents remembers. You are in a society where membership of a church is almost taken for granted. It's much easier to get into that world. Out west, it's much more do it yourself. So we get some great Christians out there because it's such a do it yourself thing. You have to be really committed.

[Charlie Kirk]

You saw this in California, the rise of the mega churches. Exactly.

[Blake]

Fewer people who are getting culturally assimilated into that. And we have to do the work.

[Charlie Kirk]

To get people to have a legal question. I have a legal question. So the ruling is based on the fact that they consider abortion health care. How did that definition get established in the state of Wyoming?

[Blake]

I'm not sure. I'd have to read the decision.

[Charlie Kirk]

So my instant analysis when I was hearing your question was that you have to pass a state law that redefines abortion as not health care.

[Blake]

And that's what stinks is. I think that would have been really easy if they'd written their law like that in 2012 and they'd say, by the way, abortion isn't health care. Whereas now it's gonna be tougher. It's gonna be tougher now because, let's be frank, Dobbs got repealed. And now people are. If you try to pass that, everyone's aware this is an abortion ban. Up or down vote. And as we've seen outside of Florida and South Dakota, we've had a hard time with up or down votes. We've been able to pass strict abortion laws because we're able to pass it in the legislature where our guys are aligned and most people are not going to, you know, flip to the Democrats over that. Even if we lose that up or down vote. And that could be a struggle in Wyoming. I'll just be frank.

[Charlie Kirk]

I totally agree, by the way. I just. We talked about the spiritual implications. One last point I want to make is I believe every state that succeeds and overcomes the evil of abortion and passes a state ban. I don't care about all the naysayers. I don't care about the politics of it. I believe your state will be blessed. I genuinely believe that.

[Blake]

Mikey, do you have any thoughts on.

[Mikey McCoy]

Yeah, no. This is great.

[Charlie Kirk]

Blake.

[Mikey McCoy]

I could sit back and listen to you explain things all day. I'm like, I'm loving it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Micah is. Who's next? Josiah, I think Mike. Josiah. Who do we get? Matthew. Josiah.

[Blake]

Josiah. Let's go.

[Charlie Kirk]

Hey, guys. I am here in upstate New York.

[Caller from Wyoming]

About 20 minutes from Canada.

[Charlie Kirk]

And so I would be going to Ottawa tomorrow.

[Caller from Wyoming]

So I was like, hey, love to hear about Canada. If you have something to add.

[Blake]

Oh, boy.

[Mikey McCoy]

We now have leeway to talk about Canada after Greenland.

[Blake]

Oh, boy. Man. We can wish we are.

[Mikey McCoy]

The truth is, we want to talk.

[Blake]

About it because it's very interesting. What's unfolding north of the border.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, this is a volcano worm.

[Blake]

This is. People aren't noticing this because there's a lot of other.

[Charlie Kirk]

We'll play the clips first, though.

[Blake]

Yeah, let's do those clips.

[Charlie Kirk]

So we've got. This is. So it's a one, two. It's a shot chaser, to use a very secular vernacular. 5 17. This is prime Minister Carney. Big Lib says Canada's partnership with China sets us up well for the new. Actually, hold on, hold on. Yeah. All right. So we didn't get the clip I wanted, but that's fine. This is them announcing this new partnership with the CCP.517.

[Mike Carney]

I believe the progress that we have made in the partnership sets us up well for the new world order.

[Blake]

He couldn't have said that more ominous than what.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, that was. That was him intentionally signaling to D.C. and Donald Trump that he has his own agency and they're gonna push back and become a proud little puppet state. Vassal state of the ccp.

[Blake]

And he elaborated on this. Should we do the follow up?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, let's do the follow up.

[Blake]

So they asked him, what did he mean by it.

[Charlie Kirk]

This is a follow up interview.

[Blake]

520.

[Charlie Kirk]

One of the things you said in the public remarks was this partnership, Canada and China, this new partnership sets us up well for the New World Order. What did you mean by that? What is the New World Order?

[Mike Carney]

Fancy word, like the architecture. The multilateral system that has been developing these is being eroded, to use a polite term, undercut use another term. So the question is what gets built in that place? But the evolution of the global financial system, the role of the renminbi over time, the evolution of cross border payments and look, the expectation is that rather than these being developed necessarily through the imf, WTO and other multilateral organizations, it is going to be coalitions that develop them. Not for the world, but for subsectors of the world.

[Blake]

First of all, Mike, do your impression of Carney. He's got his hand maneuvers there.

[Charlie Kirk]

You never know what to do with my hand.

[Blake]

There's a lot that's interesting there though. And so first of all, the announcement today, that's kind of a money, you know, the follow up to this is they announced today Canada is, they had been aligned with us on a lot of very aggressive anti China tariffs, huge tariffs on cars, some other exports. And they announced today they are cutting their tariffs on Chinese automobiles. So these electric cars that they're all over the world, you never see them in America because we tariff them so hard, but we might see Canadians driving them. And in return China is cutting tariffs they had imposed on Canadian exports. Like I think canola oil is something that they were exporting, stuff like that. But it's, it's really interesting what he's saying, because what he's saying is basically an earthquake. Canada has always been in the United States orbit. It's always, let's be frank, it's always been a major ally of ours, even when we had differing governments.

[Mikey McCoy]

So I have a question then. So if we, if, if we're taking Greenland because China and Russia have an influence on that territory and that is our reasoning to do so, does that mean we also need to take Canada because they're being influenced by China and Russia?

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, I mean this is the thing. So yeah, we can't.

[Blake]

Listen, I'll be frank. I've just got to say this, this happened because I think we were, we recklessly bullied Canada just after, you know, kind of during that transitional period to the new administration. President Trump was going on about the 51st state thing. First of all, like Charlie, I don't want Canada as a 51st state. They're very liberal on, on certainly like abortion. I take Alberta, euthanasia, even Alberta would, I'll tell you, I think you'd be surprised. I think Alberta would be a blue state because one reason they have, they have multiple parties so you can get a Conservative government with 35, 40% of the vote, which, you know, you can't do that in the United States. There's only two major parties. And so we did that. And unfortunately it did mean there was an election. Trudeau was imploding. He looked, they looked primed to lose power. And unfortunately, Canada's national identity, a lot of it is bound up with being not America or being like America but way more left wing. And I think that really exacerbated that element of Canadian national pride. And it made them go for this carny guy who's this globalist lizard. And what he's saying there, when he says, oh, we're going to see subsectors of the world instead of multilateral organizations, what he's saying is the imf, the WTO institutions that America built are going to be replaced by ones China might build with Canada.

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So another piece of this is just because we've got the BRICS Nation which is an affront to the US dollar as the currency reserves they might have.

[Blake]

To seize into brics.

[Charlie Kirk]

So it's seriously. No, I'm not kidding. That's exactly where I was going. So you've got China, now you're gonna have Canada. And this is a direct. Listen, you've got the NATO alliance, you've got a bunch of libs in the NATO alliance that Canada is part of that. The United States is part of that. And President Trump is demanding reform on immigration. He's making plays and treaties very seriously at Greenland and he's invaded Venezuela. He's telling the UK that their speech laws are not compatible with our values and free speech. He's demanding all of these things that they pay up in NATO. Here's what I would say though. They've got no cards ultimately because they do need us to protect them. But here's a wild thought. Do we care if the old world orders and alliances are changing? Do we actually care? Because in some ways, yes. In some ways, no. The main reason this is a threat though, it's not even because of the dollar. I would say that would be threat number two. But threat number one is because if our adversaries of China and Russia are going to attack us, it's going to come over the Arctic. That is actually the most direct attack line. And that's why we have norad. That's why we're telling Denmark that we need Greenland. If Canada becomes a puppet, an owned puppet of the ccp. That is a direct national security issue for the United States of America.

[Blake]

It is. And I just feel tragic because I think this was avoidable.

[Charlie Kirk]

It was, of course, yeah.

[Mikey McCoy]

Also like, I don't want to like black pill here. I don't think Canada is going to end up like going, no.

[Charlie Kirk]

I think this is a bunch of saber rattling.

[Mikey McCoy]

This is a bunch of saber.

[Charlie Kirk]

I'll be honest, they won't leave the G7.

[Mikey McCoy]

They won't like. It's just not going to happen.

[Charlie Kirk]

Just to put a finer point on this, I, I actually agree with Mikey. I think this is him. This is Carney trying to act like. Because he's total beta male. He's a total beta male. And this is what the left is built on. Feminist women and beta males.

[Blake]

I don't think he's a beta male. I think that's a mistake.

[Charlie Kirk]

I actually think he is.

[Blake]

He's a cold blooded lizard. But I don't think a beta male would do this.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, just, I do. When they're commies at the end of the day. This guy. Yeah.

[Blake]

He's going to say commies are not beta. Commies are. Can be very alpha. Like Joseph Stalin was. Not a mincing. Beta.

[Mikey McCoy]

All right, beta or not beta.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Emails [e-mail].

[Blake]

A lot of them are.

[Charlie Kirk]

Carney, the Prime Minister of Canada, is he a beta or not a beta? We want to hear your thoughts. Send it. Flood the inbox.

[Blake]

I would be remiss if I didn't listen.

[Charlie Kirk]

He's conniving, he's smart, he's calculating. All of these things are very true. But he's a beta. Okay, that's my take on it.

[Blake]

I would be remiss if I didn't flog my personal hobby horse, which is, I think, the best way for President Trump to indulge his desire to make America bigger and grander and to do really big projects no one else does, without possibly alienating useful allies. He should annex Antarctica. No one owns it. What if we just took it over? He just said it had a treaty list.

[Charlie Kirk]

Bam. Get this. The average temperature in Antarctica is much colder. It's 9,000ft high. It's on a 9,000 foot shelf. It is. What else in the North Arctic, the North Pole, if you will. It's underwater. Under the ice is water. So the land mass in Antarctica reflects heat. The ocean underneath the north actually helps moderate the temperature in the summer. The average temperature in the north is actually 32 degrees Fahrenheit, which is the freezing point. So which means it sometimes gets below, above freezing, then below freezing, it's way warmer up.

[Blake]

Okay, but Antarctica is a lot bigger. And so if we annex the whole thing, we would be bigger than Russia.

[Charlie Kirk]

Interesting to see if you could actually extract resources from.

[Blake]

Almost certainly not in any sort of short time frame. But, but yeah, anyways, in a century time frame. Well, we have one more question we do want to get to as well.

[Charlie Kirk]

Matthew. So, Matthew.

[Blake]

Yes.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

[Josiah]

Can you hear me?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes, sir. Okay, great. Yeah.

[Josiah]

So by the way, Carney, Yeah, I hate to say, say he probably is beta, but you know, Tommy's can definitely.

[Charlie Kirk]

Be Alphas, like you said. So.

[Josiah]

Yeah, my question, my question kind of to preface it would be that, you know, for a long time it's been frustrating to see all these people out there being portrayed as these really angry citizens standing for these things when a lot of times they're just being paid, you know, it. Because I've, you know, I've seen the ads before myself, you know, looking for people out there in Phoenix, you Know, to do stuff. So the, so my question is, you know, what do you think about Congress passing a law that would require just like we have in commercials, you know, paid protesters to wear something like an armband or something that shows that they're being paid a wage to be there and requiring that, but that they also can register. You know, the company has to register somewhere federally and there needs to be some sort of signposted than somebody feed of anything that states clearly who's paying them because that would, you know, it wouldn't go against free speech loss because we already have laws requiring that for stuff on TV and radio, truth and advertising and so forth. And it would also make it a more clear employee, employer relationship so that, you know, they can be sued.

[Charlie Kirk]

If I was going to say this actually gives you a mechanism for enforcing like a crackdown if you know that they are paid protesters and they, they don't properly. I don't know, like what's the, what's the first amendment implications here?

[Blake]

I do feel like it would be a can of worms. How would you define a paid protester for example, or like a door to door.

[Charlie Kirk]

So, so if they're like what they.

[Josiah]

If they're doing hotels transport and food only, then that's not paid processor process but they're getting a wage to be there. And we, and we've. I'm sure you've seen the ads before looking for people to do.

[Blake]

I'll be frank, I will be frank. I have seen these go viral before. I don't know that I've ever seen a paid protester ad that I. I'll be frank. That I think was real. I think people post them and I think they're fake. There was a. There was actually back when I was on Tucker's show in 2017, there was a completely fake paid protester bit and we had the fake paid protester guy on the show. It went quite viral at the time. But I think people put these up. I just, I don't know that I've ever seen evidence that an antifa, like a person who is just a 100% disinterested mercenary figure showed up at something like an anti ice protest or an anti administration Protestant because they were just being paid a wage to be there.

[Charlie Kirk]

I think it's a confluence of like you have true believers that you know, will then kind of come up through the ranks. Activist groups. I mean a lot the groups are real indivisible was one of them. There are obviously people on payroll that help organize or help Disseminate literature. There is a paid element of this. I tend to agree with you actually though, that more of it is organic than the left or than the right wants to admit. A lot of this is just people that, you know, listen, people have a hole in their soul and they're looking for purpose. They're looking for something to make themselves useful with. And instead of raising their family, instead of teaching them how to obey police officers, they end up getting themselves, you know, enmeshed in these. These really radical ideologies that fill this gaping hole and gets them in, like Renee Goode puts it, ends up with her being cannon fodder in the streets, confronting ice where she should not have been.

[Mikey McCoy]

I disagree with you guys. I disagree with you guys. I think there are more. I mean, Nate Friedman exposes people all the time.

[Charlie Kirk]

Literally.

[Mikey McCoy]

Laura Ingram was interviewing someone the other day.

[Blake]

So we have that. I have a response.

[Mikey McCoy]

Do you guys ever see videos?

[Charlie Kirk]

There was a woman that he spotted at over a hundred different. Yeah.

[Mikey McCoy]

And they get paid to do this. And you can see that in he exposes the different groups that pay these people. But also in terms of like a lot of.

[Charlie Kirk]

I believe.

[Mikey McCoy]

Okay.

[Charlie Kirk]

I just think there's a higher.

[Blake]

Well, the thing is.

[Mikey McCoy]

Let me finish my thought.

[Blake]

Sure.

[Mikey McCoy]

So in terms of like these natural groups coming out, like it takes a few people to start something. And like if there are 10 people that are getting paid and 10 people that are organizing something, they could get 250, 300 people out there to protest something. That's exactly how people started it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, that's exactly. That's how I believe.

[Blake]

So I want us, since it's quick, let's play the Laura Ingraham quick very quickly. 5:38.

[Charlie Kirk]

Shame. Do you have a job? Do you have a job?

[Anthony]

Shame.

[Ian]

Shame.

[Charlie Kirk]

I'm getting paid right now.

Shame.

[Blake]

So the thing is, that's not proof that she's being paid to protest. What it really gets at, I suspect, and I don't know this for sure, but I suspect there are a huge number of organizations that the left controls where you can get, where you have unlimited opportunity to go protest whenever you want. This. So for example, the St. Paul Teachers Union is calling for all their teachers to go on basically strike.

[Charlie Kirk]

And all the schools doing walkouts.

[Blake]

Exactly.

[Charlie Kirk]

They're at the Capitol causing chaos.

[Blake]

If you can walk out on your job as a teacher and no one will fire you, you can easily bo. I'm getting paid right now.

[Charlie Kirk]

Ha ha.

[Blake]

Like I know you can't do anything about it. And they have infinity. Things like that. Anyone who's working at these left wing universities, anyone who works at left wing NGOs, anyone who works at, you know, as a public school teacher, where they indulge these things, the left has tons of institutions where they can park a full time political activist with very little real work demanded of them. And their job is be a left winger. That's very different from I'm a mercenary who's paid to protest.

[Charlie Kirk]

My take on that, what they're paid.

[Blake]

To be is to be left wing.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and there's probably some of that. I agree with you, but I think my take on that was way more simple. I agree with Blake. I didn't hear that and go instantly, like, paid protester. I thought this was probably a work from home job. And she was just mocking everybody, going, like, regardless, I'm getting paid right now because my employer doesn't care that I'm here.

[Mikey McCoy]

Go watch Nate Friedman's work.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, you're right, you're right. Okay.

[Mikey McCoy]

Put yes or no to armbands.

[Charlie Kirk]

Nah, I mean, I'm open to all.

[Mikey McCoy]

Put them on. Need the armbands.

[Josiah]

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[Mikey McCoy]

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[Blake]

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