Biden's Katrina

Summary

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The Charlie Kirk Show: "Biden's Katrina"

Host: Andrew Colvett (filling in for Charlie Kirk)
Date: February 20, 2021

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Episode Overview

This episode, guest-hosted by producer Andrew Colvett, centers on sharp conservative critiques of the early Biden administration, especially regarding the Texas winter storm (framed as "Biden's Katrina"), immigration reform, California’s political shakeups, media double standards, and the national debate on reparations. Colvett is joined by guest Jennifer Horn, and together they dissect news behind the headlines while defending conservative principles and warning about left-leaning policy consequences.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. California Recall & Political Climate

[02:06–13:51]

• Grassroots Recall Effort:
  Jennifer Horn explains the growing bipartisan movement to recall Governor Gavin Newsom, emphasizing its grassroots, citizen-driven nature and the involvement of not only Republicans but also independents and Democrats disillusioned by one-party rule.

  • Quote:
    "It is not just Republicans, but independents and Democrats who have said enough with these really far left progressive policies that are not serving California residents."
    — Jennifer Horn [04:23]

• National Consequences:
  Both hosts stress that California’s political direction can serve as a bellwether for the rest of the country.

  • Quote:
    "As goes California, because California goes, so does the rest of the country."
    — Jennifer Horn [03:53]

• Potential Candidates:
  Discussion about likely Republican/independent gubernatorial candidates including Rick Grenell, Kevin Faulconer, John Cox, and how name recognition and MAGA-leaning figures could impact the race.

• Broad Appeal Needed:
  The way forward for conservative candidates in California might be a focus on pragmatic issues (homelessness, taxes), rather than polarizing topics like immigration.

2. Ted Cruz Controversy and Media Double Standards

[14:40–18:48, 45:39–54:30]

• Ted Cruz’s Cancun Trip:
  Colvett criticizes media fixation on Senator Cruz leaving Texas during the crisis, calling the response disproportionate and politically motivated, especially when compared to the lack of coverage of Gov. Cuomo's nursing home scandal.

  • Quote:
    "By Cruz capitulating and accepting the premise, he has poured fuel on a fire and turned it into a bonfire."
    — Andrew Colvett [15:44]
  • Guest Soundbite (Jennifer Horn):
    "I wish we had had a modicum of what was dedicated to the Ted Cruz scandal dedicated to the scandal with Governor Cuomo where 15,000 elderly people...died in nursing homes and the media has ignored it for a year."
    — Jennifer Horn [18:25]

• Media Manipulation:
  Colvett asserts that coverage is being weaponized to distract from Biden administration's slow crisis response—a situation he dubs "Biden's Katrina."

  • Quote:
    "If Trump was in the White House right now, we would be having calls for a third impeachment. This would be Trump's Katrina."
    — Andrew Colvett [46:44]

• Political Calculus:
  Colvett analyzes Democrat strategy, suggesting that hyping stories about Cruz and Cuomo serves to deflect scrutiny from Biden’s policies and performance.

3. Immigration Reform: Biden’s Early Moves and Conservative Critiques

[18:48–44:42]

• Biden’s Legislative Proposals:
  Detailed review of Biden’s comprehensive immigration plan and related piecemeal proposals (DREAM Act, Promise Act, Farm Workers’ Act), and harsh critiques of their emphasis on amnesty over enforcement.

  • Quote:
    "This is why you see caravans forming over and over again. And what you’re doing is you are sowing the seeds of absolute and utter chaos. That is the opposite of compassion."
    — Andrew Colvett [22:05]

• Enforcement Question:
  Emphasis on the lack of meaningful border enforcement in proposals, with guest commentary from Senator Menendez downplaying physical barriers and former acting DHS secretary Chad Wolf warning about imminent humanitarian crisis.

  • Clip: Ron DeSantis (as cited by Colvett, quoting Wolf):
    "CBP is facing a little over 3,000...individuals coming across the border illegally every day...back under Obama...1,000 a day is a very bad day...so we're at three times that at the moment."
    — Chad Wolf [29:29]

• Political Motives:
  Argues that Democrat support for broad amnesty is strategically motivated—an attempt to build a permanent voter base—and that true numbers of illegal immigrants are underestimated.

  • Quote (paraphrased from Tucker Carlson via Colvett):
    "Anyone who repeats the 11 million number is either ignorant or lying."
    — Andrew Colvett [36:35]

• ICE Enforcement Standards:
  New Biden guidelines limiting ICE’s ability to deport all but the most serious offenders are flagged as undermining law and order.

• Electoral Consequences:
  Colvett discusses demographic trends, noting surprising gains by Trump among Latinos and minorities, and asserts that assuming a permanent Democratic majority due to amnesties may backfire.

4. The Texas Storm: "Biden’s Katrina"

[45:39–54:30]

• Federal Response Critique:
  Colvett fiercely critiques the Biden administration as slow to act on the Texas power crisis, drawing a parallel to President Bush’s response to Hurricane Katrina.

  • Quote:
    "What we should be talking about is the utter failure of the federal government to get out in front of this and to lend a helping hand...I am hereby dubbing it...Biden's Katrina moment."
    — Andrew Colvett [46:00]

• Distractions:
  Reiterates that media focus on Cruz and Cuomo is a deliberate distraction from the administration’s policy failures, including rejoining the Paris Climate Accord, raising taxes, and handling China and Iran.

• DeSantis Praised:
  Contrasts Biden/Cuomo’s approaches with Ron DeSantis’s “open for business” stance in Florida, signaling a future shift in conservative leadership.

5. Reparations Debate & Conservative Race Discourse

[54:30–59:39]

• Reparations under Consideration:
  The hosts reference House efforts to study reparations, questioning feasibility and fairness. They play testimony from conservative commentator Larry Elder opposing reparations.

  • Quote (Larry Elder):
    "Having this conversation right now when racism has never been a less significant problem in America to me, is mind boggling."
    — Larry Elder [57:22]

• Content of Character vs. Identity Politics:
  Colvett passionately echoes Martin Luther King, Jr.’s message, criticizing left-wing emphasis on victimhood and group identity over individual merit.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|----------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 04:23 | Jennifer Horn | "It is not just Republicans, but independents and Democrats who have said enough..." | | 03:53 | Jennifer Horn | "As goes California, because California goes, so does the rest of the country." | | 14:40 | Andrew Colvett | "Boy, hearing Ted Cruz apologize is hard to listen to, honestly..." | | 36:35 | Andrew Colvett | "Anyone who repeats the 11 million number is either ignorant or lying." | | 46:44 | Andrew Colvett | "If Trump was in the White House right now, we would be having calls for a third impeachment..." | | 57:22 | Larry Elder | "Having this conversation right now when racism has never been a less significant problem in America…" | | 59:00 | Andrew Colvett | "The truth is, is that America, despite her flaws, is still the greatest country in the history..." |

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Segment Timestamps

• California Recall & CA Politics: 02:06–13:51
• Ted Cruz, Cuomo & Media Bias: 14:40–18:48, 45:39–54:30
• Biden Immigration Reform: 18:48–44:42
• Texas Storm/"Biden's Katrina": 45:39–54:30
• Reparations Debate (Larry Elder testimony): 54:30–59:39

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Episode Tone

• Direct, combative, and unapologetically conservative
• Heavy on criticism of Democrats, Biden's administration, and the mainstream media
• Emphasis on grassroots activism, skepticism of government overreach, and conviction in American exceptionalism

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For Further Listening:
This episode offers a whirlwind tour of conservative perspectives and controversies from early 2021 and serves as both commentary and a call to arms for grassroots engagement. If you want insider conservative analysis on the Biden era’s emerging crises and shifting political winds, “Biden’s Katrina” is a representative listen.

Transcript

[Charlie Kirk]

Hey, everybody. On this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, I was out. So producer Andrew chipped in rather brilliantly. You can hear producer Andrew's entire hour as he anchors the Charlie Kirk Show. If you want to support our program, go to charliekirk.comsupport email us your questions. As always, freedomarliekirk.com action packed episode, everybody. Here we go.

[Andrew Colvett]

Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

[Jennifer Horn]

Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

[Andrew Colvett]

I want you to know we are

[Ron DeSantis]

lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

[Andrew Colvett]

Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point usa.

[Charlie Kirk]

We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives. And we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here.

[Andrew Colvett]

This is producer Andrew Colvett filling in for the one and only Charlie Kirk, who's out today. Honored to be with you all. Lots of news to get into, lots of great things to discuss. And it seems like this time of the political cycle, we're just getting started with the Biden administration, much to the chagrin of many of us in this country, millions of us, but it feels like what we're seeing is the laboratory of democracy. The states are either rising or falling based on the pandemic. The pandemic is still the driving force of much of the news that we have today. And we're gonna get into lots today. We're gonna get into immigration, we're gonna get into Ted Cruz, we're gonna get into the weather. But before we get there, while I had her, I wanted to invite Jennifer Horn to the show. Jen, say hello to our audience.

[Jennifer Horn]

It is such a pleasure to be here with you. I love Charlie. You know, Andrew, I am a big, big fan of yours. So it is, it's so much fun to hang out with you today. Thanks for inviting me.

[Andrew Colvett]

It' now, if you guys haven't checked it out, Jennifer Horne, the morning answer at KRLA in Los Angeles. It's a great morning drive time show.

[Jennifer Horn]

I think so.

[Andrew Colvett]

It's fantastic. She is a radio legend in her own right. Her family goes way back in the radio biz. Yeah. And so always learning from the one and only Jen Horn. But I wanted to bring you in, Jen, because there is so much going on in the state of California. We have a ton of our listeners on the podcast from the state of California. It is one of the most dynamic political environments right now. And that's saying something because it felt like California's been under one party rule for quite a while now. And there's not a whole lot of back and forth tension. But now there is a recall effort that has eclipsed the number of signatures needed. But they're still going for more. They still want to hit 2 million there, about 1.5, 1.6. Right. As of right now, they need more because unlike mail in balloting for the general election of the president, signatures matter and they're gonna try and verify those, which is the irony of all ironies. But nevertheless, Jen, I wanted to bring you in to explain it to our listeners who are not in California or maybe just starting to perk up their ears saying, ooh, a Democrat on the ropes. Give us a little bit of the backstory, tell us how we got here, what's going on, and let me tell

[Jennifer Horn]

you why it's important because there are a lot of people in. And I see you out there, you're in Arizona, you're in Texas, you're in Oklahoma, you're in Georgia, and maybe you're going, ugh, who cares about what happens in California? California is a lost cause. I've heard it. I've heard it when I've done national radio. I'm on with Seb Gork, our colleague here at Salem Radio, every single week. And people go, well, it's just California. The reason that this is significant is for the reason that you said, number one, California has been under single party rule. Number two, it should be really important to the rest of the country because as goes California, because California goes, so does the rest of the country.

[Andrew Colvett]

Don't California. My Texas. I think that's right.

[Jennifer Horn]

California is a verb. I constantly say the country got California during the last presidential election. All of the practices that Democrats used to steal this election away, they got them from California. So they were hatched here. And the Biden administration has hand picked a ton. I mean, I'm not, not sad to see these people go, but he's taken a lot of the top talent, a lot of our top elected officials from California, and he's put them.

[Andrew Colvett]

Talent and air quotes.

[Jennifer Horn]

Exactly. He's put them in his administration and they're bringing with them their policies. Look at Kamala Harris. She is, many people believe, of the guiding force of this administration and she's bringing California to the country. So it matters what's happening here. And that's why it is so important to note to everyone and to get this narrative out there that in California, common sense is starting to push back. It is not just Republicans, but independents and Democrats who have said enough with these really far left progressive policies that are not serving California residents. And so this recall effort has been founded by the citizens of California. There have been other recall efforts on Gavin Newsom before. There have been like six of them. None of them were successful. But recall Gavin 2020 has been because it's a grassroots effort. Conservatives started it. But independents and Democrats are pushing back because Gavin Newsom, using COVID 19 as excuse, has shut down the schools. He's taken away our ability to go to work. He has taken away our ability to save money to, to make a living. And he shut people down. And because of it, the middle class is running out of California to other states. And we're left with, as socialism proves, the very rich and the very poor.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, and it's a really important point that you just brought up and that I think a lot of people don't know yet, and that's that this is not just Republicans signing this recall. This has now become, it's gained so much momentum that you're hearing criticisms both from the left and the right. And one thing that people don't know about California is that there's a lot of, there's a lot of independence. This state is way over represented in the independent category compared to a lot of other states because a lot of people don't want to be identified as Republican. Now there are 5 million registered Republicans in the state, but there's a lot of independents. And those independents are the mushy middle. They can be convinced. And what's probably even more striking is how many Democrats are now getting involved with this recall effort. Because as you said, you're seeing this, as Bill Maher said, it felt like the 1970s Italian malaise was setting in where you can't get a U haul van out of the state of California. And if you can grab your hands on one, it's incredibly expensive because you can't get anybody to bring it back.

[Jennifer Horn]

That's right.

[Andrew Colvett]

So there, I mean, and you've got the homelessness and the high taxes and you've got this beautiful state that so many people remember at its prime and its peak represented freedom, self expression. And now those places have been exported to Texas, Tennessee, Florida, the free states that have remained open. And so this is a real opportunity to press the reset button in California where you even have people on the left saying, we need to lower our corporate taxes, we need to lower our state income taxes and we need to deal with homelessness. This is a massive, massive opportunity to bring pragmatism back to a blue state. Now, people don't often remember this, but Los Angeles and New York City had Republican mayors. We did. And there is a chance to get back there. What do you think? Who's it gonna be?

[Jennifer Horn]

I think that there is a chance for a Republican to hold statewide office. What people may not know outside of California is that we like recalls in California. We recalled Gray Davis and we brought in Arnold Schwarzenegger. Unfortunately, Arnold Schwarzenegger shriveled quickly under pressure from, from the state legislature and he really kind of killed the opportunity for. No Republican has held statewide office since Schwarzenegger. But there is a chance. And if I'm looking at some of the candidates because I believe this recall will make the ballot. It's at 1.7 million signatures now. I think they'll probably close to 2 million before it's over. I think it'll get qualified and make it to the ballot. I'm looking to someone like Rick Renell. I'm looking to. It may be an independent. You know, typically, if you'd asked me as a conservative and as a MAGA conservative, I would probably look around to never support someone in a third party role. But in California, a third party candidate could be successful. And I think Rick Renell, former Director of National Intelligence and ambassador to Germany, could be the guy.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, I think you're absolutely right. I think there's a lot of independents that are going to emerge that are going to be more right of center than they may even let on. I think they're going to be more pragmatic, more pro business, trying to revitalize this state's business economy because they know that if they come right out and say it, they're going to attention attach too much negative attention to their own bid. Right. So you're going to have a lot of people that are actually on our side that you're not going to know about on its face. Let's talk about conservatives in California. You mentioned Rick Grinnell, who's one of them. We have some sound here. Clip 85 that I want to play for you. Rick Grenell, he was on, I believe he's on Newsmax talking about this recall. Let's go ahead and play clip 85 I think it's really important. We have a long history here of one party rule in California and Gavin Newsom's tenure has been a disaster. He started off by closing the beaches, if you can Imagine that there's no science that says you should close the be. So he's ignored science. He's manipulated all of the decisions in order for political gain. Our schools are closed. We can't go inside restaurants. Our gyms are closed. Wealthy people are getting the vaccine, while cancer patients and elderly are going without. This is a disaster. Rick Grenell being potentially one of the folks. The names that are being floated. You have some inside info on this. Tell us, tell our audience.

[Jennifer Horn]

Yeah, I don't know if I can reveal my sources yet, but I have heard that Rick Renell, who a lot of conservatives in California are begging to. Ronnie lives in Palm Springs, which is beautiful and beautiful spot. He would be a great candidate for governor. And people say that he is really interested now if that happens. And maybe you've noticed this across the country, there are a lot of MAGA candidates that are starting to jump in. We've got Sarah Sanders, who's running for governor in Arkansas. You've got Corey Lewandowski, who's exploring Iran. You have Lara Trump, who will most likely Senate in North Carolina. She is going to win. And you've got a lot of people who now have that MAGA ideology that are jumping into races around the country. Now, the thought is, and this is what I've heard is the rumbling, and I love this as a Trump supporter, pray tell, if Rick Renell jumps into the governor's race, there is some talk that President Trump might start up his rallies again. One of, you know, everybody's waiting to hear what President Trump's political future is going to be. But I don't think it's by mistake that all these MAGA candidates are suddenly jumping in, I think, ready to put his political power behind his friends, his allies, those people who will carry on a MAGA agenda. And even in California, Andrew, I think it works. Trump used to fill rallies here in 2015 when he was rallying for presidency.

[Andrew Colvett]

There's still car parades going through Malibu, Malibu for Trump.

[Jennifer Horn]

Absolutely. During the the fight over the election, in the months following the election, there were rallies going on like every single Saturday in places like Beverly Hills and in Huntington. Be so as if you can get all of the 5 million people that turned out and voted for President Trump in the presidential election in California, you're going to see a huge amount of power wielded by someone who shouldn't be considered popular. In California, all of that power can be thrown at his chosen candidate.

[Andrew Colvett]

This is the question. So we were debating this. Somebody in California, you've got Immigration. And we're gonna hit this later in the show. We're gonna go dive right into it. Cause Biden's been making all kinds of stuff moves on immigration. Can somebody that has the MAGA brand attached to them win in California? One? Will you be able to bring in independents? And what do you do about immigration in a state like this? We talked about Faulkner, the former mayor of San Diego, who is notoriously, I would say, weak on immigration. You have an opinion about this, though? What's the approach?

[Jennifer Horn]

Yeah, there are a couple of people who already declared their candidacy for governor, and one of them is Kevin Faulkner, former mayor of San Diego. John Cox, who ran against Gavin Newsom and lost in 2020 18, and Doug O.C. who had a short run for governor that same year. You've got Major Williams, who's a Republican candidate who ran for Pasadena mayor. Didn't win.

[Andrew Colvett]

African American guy.

[Jennifer Horn]

African American guy. Really good. Really good guy. The problem with all of these guys is name recognition. Right.

[Andrew Colvett]

Who?

[Jennifer Horn]

California loves a brand name. We love to know people that we. We've heard of before. And so that's the challenge there. But I think with Kevin Faulkner, he is very soft on immigration. He really good at solving the homeless crisis. So if I were him, I think the only way that you pull together a candidacy that brings in Republicans who want you to be tough on immigration and independents and Democrats who don't, is to focus on what your skill set is. And that is fixing the homeless problem, fixing those life issues, schools, crime, all of that stuff that matters to the everyday person. Focus on that and focus less on those other things.

[Andrew Colvett]

Right. And Rick Grenell has the benefit of not really being in a position where he has anything to do with immigration, which in a state like California could. It could benefit him. The question is, does he have the. In California, the MAGA stink. Time will tell. I hope he puts his name in the ring, because I think it would be a phenomenal candidate. He's such a good operator. I've seen him behind the scenes. He's so good. So hopefully he jumps in. Hopefully we can encourage him and be a source of support.

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[Andrew Colvett]

We have to, we have to talk about Cruz. We have to talk about Ted Cruz today. Let's start with him apologizing and then we'll get into it after that. So the question from the video on the cell phone was, was whether the decision to go was tone deaf. Look, it was obviously a mistake and in hindsight I wouldn't have done it. Boy, hearing Ted Cruz apologize is hard to listen to, honestly, because we've come to know Ted Cruz as this aggressive bulldog in the Senate that nobody likes him, but he's cool with it and he doesn't care because he's gonna fight for the American people, he's gonna fight for the state of Texas, and to hell with it, he's gonna go for it. So to hear him be contrite like this over something that honestly is getting completely blown out of proportion is disappointing. It was actually a great tweet. Simple, straightforward, from Matt Gaetz, Representative Matt Gaetz, who's a friend of the show, and he said simply, ted Cruz should not have apologized. I couldn't agree more with Matt Gaetz. Ted Cruz should not have apologized. The truth of the matter is, if you look back at the sequence of events here, he and Senator John Cornyn from the state of Texas, their one real functional job in a crisis. And obviously, you know, the backstory. I think we all are aware that Texas is going through some winter storms, storms that are once in a generation storms. I'm hearing some people say this is the worst it's been since 1949. I'm hearing other people say it's the worst it's been in Texas since 1918. So just to put it in perspective, it's not only cold, it's prolonged. And now 4 million people are out of power. I think that number's down to 300,000 today. So it is getting better. But the new thing is that a lot of people have to boil their water because the water sanitation is down as well. So they're under Boyle advisories, which is obviously no fun. But it's not like Senator Ted Cruz's alignment. It's not like he's an engineer. It's not like he's even at the state level and has executive authority over the state of Texas and running the daily business of Texas. That's Governor Abbott's job. And he is working with the federal government. And I think there is some criticism that Joe Biden deserves in all of this. It's been a slow response from the federal government and we can get into that in just a second. But Senator Cruz and Senator Cornyn requested and received emergency declarations on the state of Texas, received resources because of that. Other than that, there's not a whole lot that Senator Cruz directly has to do now, does that not? You know, I've admit that it was an optics issue. There is certainly an optics issue here that that does plays into the calculus. But by Cruz capitulating and accepting the premise, he has poured fuel on a fire and turned it into a bonfire and it's given the left all the fodder. They want to attack him and something that they've wanted to do with Cruz since 2013 when he railed on the Senate for hours and hours and hours, wouldn't let anybody go home over the amnesty boat bill. So let's play clip 83 here just to make my point even clearer. This is Meghan McCain, you know, from the view, the former senator from Arizona, his daughter Meghan McCain saying exactly what we all know to be true, that nobody really likes ted Cruz in D.C. let's go ahead and play it.

[Jennifer Horn]

The explosion on Twitter is warranted. But I had just wished last night when I was seeing the absolute outrage and more time being dedicated towards this scandal. I wish we had had a modicum of what was dedicated to the Ted Cruz scandal. Dedicated to the scandal with Governor Cuomo where 15,000 elderly people were tragically died in nursing homes and the media has ignored it for a year.

[Andrew Colvett]

That's exactly right. You know why? There's two reasons, really. One reason is that the media establishment in this country is 95% just based on donations to political parties. 95% in the bag for the Democrat Party. So of course they come in with an implicit bias against a conservative. In this case, Senator Ted Cruz is the recipient of that. But it's frankly, it's all of us. They're pitted against us from the jump. And then when you give them something like this and you capitulate and you Apologize. You're only making it worse for yourself. Now, my theory on this is the second reason is that nobody in D.C. likes Ted Cruz. And that's okay. That's totally okay. If the kingdom of Washington is pitted against you, Senator Cruz, that's okay. That probably means that you're doing something, something worthwhile. But I think what happened here is as soon as Ted Cruz got onto that plane and it was a commercial, he was, you know, there's. People were snapping pictures of him. He started to see that everybody was. Was aware that he was on a plane getting out of Texas, going to Mexico, during the coldest stretch in anybody's memory. He knew he messed up. He knew he messed up, but it was too late. He was on the plane with his. With his daughter and her friends. And he started getting nervous and he started backtracking. News broke relatively quickly. He got himself back and started groveling. And for somebody that wants to be president, and it's very well reported that Senator Cruz wants to be president. And we like Senator Cruz here. We're fans of him. He's been on Charlie's podcast a couple times. Great guy, smart guy. But if you want to assume the energy within the conservative movement moving into 2022 in the midterms and then again in 2024, you've got to. To be stronger than accepting the premise of the left and capitulating to what they tell you you need to be sorry for and what you should not be sorry for. And the left is just having a heyday with this. I don't freak. Honestly, I don't want to talk about it. I think, you know, we've done probably enough on it already because it's just giving into this narrative. It was bad optics. Could it have been done better? Yes, of course. But the main issue here is that Senator Cruz himself shouldn't have dealt with the fallout the way he has. He should never, ever play ball on the left's turf. That's the lesson, folks. If you're out there, never play ball on their turf, because then you have to play by their rules, and they will always win. It's like that. You like going to Vegas. The House always wins. Well, guess what? When you give in and you start playing on their turf, and the House always wins. And in this case, the gavel at the House is Speaker Pelosi. So the analogy continues. So, Senator Ted Cruz, you have nothing to be sorry for. You did your state well. You got the emergency declaration. You were being a good dad. You do not have to apologize Enough of this already. Moving on, in my opinion. So the next big story that I think is, you know, honestly, I'm extremely passionate about, is the announcement yesterday that the Biden administration is trying to pass comprehensive immigration reform. And this is the debate within Democrat circles right now is do we do a comprehensive piece which has failed both during Bush and Obama years, or do they do a piecemeal piece, piece of legislation? And regardless of whatever it is, both are utter disasters. Just read at the onset, open borders, blanket amnesty. There's three pieces that they're trying to potentially divide up and pass on their own. One is the DREAM Act. I think we all are well aware of what the DREAM act is. It's for childhood arrivals brought by their parents. There is probably some bipartisan consensus that could be reached on the DREAM Act. There is the Promise act, and then there is a piece of legislation designed to help farm workers that are here as well. Now, the poison pill in all of this is these three pieces, and there are these three pieces of legislation. All grant immediate green cards, and then they allow for a pathway to citizenship within three years, which is faster than the five year track that other green card holders would typically get. So right at the onset, we have a problem. And then what they want to say is, for anybody that arrived in the country as of January 1st, you have an. An eight year path to citizenship. If this doesn't frighten you, then you're not thinking about this the right way. The left wants to frame this in purely moral terms, that we are to be a nation, as a nation of immigrants, we are to be compassionate, that we are bigger than the trivialities of the Trump administration, that we need to think about those lesser than us, and that Trump was just cruel, he was a bully. One of the facts that we need to confront and we need to be honest about with the left is that not only is this a recipe for utter chaos, it's the opposite of compassion. By telling these people, everybody has cell phones down there. You could be in the middle of the jungle with no power, and you still have a cell phone in the Northern Triangle. And there are 55 million people there. And when polled, about 90% of them would come if given the chance, to America. This is why you see, this is why you see caravans forming over and over and over again. And what you're doing is you are sowing the seeds of absolute and utter chaos. That is the opposite of compassion. Why do I say that? I say that because you are empowering the most vile and evil forces within Mexico, with the power of God at their hands. They are the ones making all the money trafficking human beings across that border. Some of the cartels, it's even been reported, have stopped dealing drugs and dealing guns and all these sorts of things because it's more profitable to force these people to pay them the money for safe passage through their territories. So when you incentivize them and you send messages to Mexico and to Central America and the Northern Triangle, you're putting lives at risk. So you want to tell me about kids in cages? You are endangering young people that are going to be coming up without their parents. You are endangering whole families of getting exploited by the cartels and really dangerous terrain, really dangerous circumstances. It is the opposite of compassion, and we need to hit that message extremely hard moving forward. It's incredibly frustrating to me to watch politics completely hijack something that is, to my mind and probably to many of yours, something that is completely common sense. I'm reading here from the National Review, and by the way, just before I get into this, some of you might be confused. There is a comprehensive piece of legislation, and then there is piecemeal. Both are working their way through Congress and being proposed simultaneously because the worry from the Democrats is that if they issue a comprehensive immigration bill, that it will get debt on arrival. Won't happen. Probably all this is debt on arrival, to be honest, which is good. But if they do the piecemeal, they might have more success of getting certain aspects of. Of their wish list across the finish line. So I'm reading here from National Review. Like the bloated comprehensive measure, the piecemeal proposals would not result in a similar broken promise because they don't even pretend to provide for future enforcement, all but guaranteeing the buildup of another large illegal population in the future. This part about enforcement is really key. I feel like we're living in an era where the left has completely abandoned the idea of law and order and enforcement. To them, it's cruel. Defund the police. Let's not protect the border. That's mean. Kids in cages. So in the absence of enforcement, you get chaos, which is cruel to the rest of America, which is cruel to those living at the border, which is honestly cruel to the immigrants that are trying to make their way across the border because you're selling them a false bill of goods. But let's get to Senator Menendez, who is the Senate sponsor of this new immigration package. Let's play his clip. Well, what I want to achieve is robust reform. Look, you know we want to have border security, but we think that technology, in addition to everything that's already been done, we have more border patrol than we've ever had. We spend more on border patrol than we do in all of the other federal law enforcement entities combined. So it's time to take a new look at how do we ensure the border. So that's one piece of it. Like I said, they look at all the enforcement at the border, which is one of the crowning achievements of the Trump administration, and they look at that as somehow a black eye against the United States of America, that Trump has successfully reduced the chaos and the criminality at our southern border, built 450, 500 miles of wall street that they've toyed with taking down. Meanwhile, those communities that are benefiting from the wall love it. It's never been so good. They've never had so much peace. But you know, they can't live with that because guess what? It's all political. But meanwhile, Chad Wolf, former acting DHS DHS secretary, explains the problem with the lack of enforcement. Clip 82 Go ahead and play it well.

[Ron DeSantis]

What I can tell you is that the situation on the border right now is very dangerous. We've got over or CBP is facing a little over 3,000, in some cases 3,500 individuals coming across the border illegally every day. And if we go back to the previous DHS secretary under Obama who said 1000 a day is a very bad day for DHS and at crisis levels. So we're at three times that at the moment. So it's very concerning a number of things that are occurring down there. And again, I think it's a direct result of some of the things that we've heard this administration do. It's sending a signal to those south of the border, those wanting to cross illegally, to the cartels, the smugglers and the traffickers, now is the time to send those individuals across the border

[Andrew Colvett]

signaling now is the time to come. This is what happens with lack of enforcement. And I tell you, we are sitting at the precipice, if not already there, of a terrible humanitarian crisis at our southern border. And this will be the direct result of the policies of the Biden administration. And frankly, it's horrifying to me. And I feel like I'm watching a train crashing in slow motion and I can't stop it. And it feels like none of us can stop it. But we have to keep voicing our concern and fighting back to keep our GOP members in the Senate strong, to push these bills down. We do not want to lose any of our members. We can't afford it.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Andrew Colvett]

Biden is According to npr, the headline does say a lot on immigration. Biden goes big in opening bid to Congress. So what is this big opening bid from Joe Biden? You've got the DREAM act for Undocumented Childhood Arrivals. I do think that there is the potential that the DREAM act is gonna get passed. I do think that. I think that's a realistic situation here. A lot of people have compassion for the dreamers. They didn't come here under their own will. It was their parents decision. I think if you are a conservative, that is the piece to barter with. I think it's all problematic frankly because it's all breaking our laws and getting away with it and that's infuriating to so many of us. But in this particular instance, even President Trump was willing to wheel and deal with the dreamers piece of this in order to get what Enforcement. And that is the big thing missing from all of this. Senator Menendez said, oh, we're going to add some great technology. Well, you're going to have drones flying overhead as drugs are getting smuggled across the border and nothing's going to be done about it. You are going to be putting our brave men and women of border patrol in harm's way and it's despicable. And you're going to be putting the lives of those children that are being trafficked across and those women being trafficked across. You're going to put their lives in danger as well by just saying, oh, we're gonna have some technology. It's gonna be great. President Trump was privy to this. He knew it was a sham. He knew it was a fraud. Putting sensors, cameras, drones, whatever, is not gonna stop hardened criminals from getting across our border and subjecting our population to massive amounts of crime coming up from a borderless, lawless area. And this is no disrespect to Mexico, this is no disrespect to the Northern Triangle. There's great people there, there's wonderful people there and they're poor and they are crying out for help. And I don't say that we should turn a blind eye to that, but we should absolutely not do is open the borders and say, come at us chaos. We're a rich country, we need to pay penance for our privilege and let you all in because Trump was so cruel to you. We need to reverse this. Well, if they looked at it with clear eyed vision, which is asking a lot, I understand they would see that President Trump actually had a massive amount of success in this area. So much so that many of us have forgotten about the border crisis that was so prevalent during the Obama years. So not only do you have these, the DREAM act, which I said is, it does have some bipartisan consensus behind it potentially. You've got the Promise act and then you've got the Farm Workers act and then you've got this other catch all which is a poison pill that says if you were here as of January 1st of 2021, then we're going to grandfather you in and we're going to blank and amnesty you as well. And here's another frustrating part about all of this and by the way, eight years pathway to citizenship. And the part that really frustrates me about all of this is that we are encouraging lawlessness and lawbreaking and we are rewarding it to achieve the ends of an activist minority because the vast majority of Americans know this is a recipe for disaster. And you've even got Democrats that are saying you're gonna lose in 2022 if you go on this, if you move forward with these policies, these soft on immigration, open borders policies, you're gonna lose. And it's an absolute recipe for destruction and chaos. And I've said that, I will say it again. And their Justification is that you've got to prioritize. You've got to prioritize where you're dispatching the federal government's resources. You have Senator Menendez saying we spend more on border patrol than any other federal law enforcement agency for good reason, because the crisis and the problem is that large. It requires that many resources. And here we go. Here's the rubber. They have been saying 11 million undocumented people in this country for years now. Tucker Carlson made this point brilliantly on a show. I want to play his tape right now. So the best estimate we have, the firmest, puts the number at about 22 million people living here. Illegal.

[Charlie Kirk]

There are informed estimates that put the

[Andrew Colvett]

number above 30 million. Anyone who repeats the 11 million number

[Charlie Kirk]

is either ignorant or lying.

[Andrew Colvett]

It's so true. I mean, I remember being in high school hearing 11 million immigrants are in this country illegally. That cannot be the case. And they keep saying 11 million because they know that you, the listener, you, the audience has become so numb to that number that it doesn't even mean anything. Ah, well, they're here anyways. It's always 11 million. You might as well make them part of the country. Give them voting. That's fine. Listen to Jen Psaki saying that. Yeah, we are. Yeah, we're going to amnesty. 11 million. Clip 90 can you give us any

[Jennifer Horn]

specifics on whether a potential pathway to citizenship will be part of the plan for that particular group? Well, there certainly is. Part of the proposal that the president outlined and proposed on day one is an urn, path to citizenship, right, for 11 million immigrants who are undocumented immigrants who are living in the country. He's also somebody who believes in the rights of the DACA recipients to be in the country.

[Andrew Colvett]

It's always about daca. That's the one they go back to. And then they latch on and they kind of push all this other stuff through off the backs of this. An issue that genuinely should evoke compassion for these kids. I do believe that, nevertheless, what they're packing into it is a poison pill. And we should know that. Now, part of all this is not just the portion that has to do with the immigration bill presented by the Biden administration. It's also on how they are enforcing those who are already here and breaking our laws. This is the other piece of this puzzle that's massively important. After four years, I'm reading from npr. After four years of former President Trump's immigration crackdown, the Biden administration on Thursday announced new guidelines that are expected to sharply limit arrests and deportation carried out by Immigration and Customs Enforcement under the guidance ICE agents and officers have been told to prioritize. Listen to this. Threats to national security and public safety when deciding whom to arrest, detain and deport. National security. I bet that my definition and many of yours of what national security is and is not is completely different from what the Biden administration would define it as. Is it not a matter of national security when MS.13 fills up your neighborhoods in Long island and attacks your kids? Is that not national security? Is it not national security when Kate Steinle got killed in San Francisco by an illegal immigrant, was that not national security? I'm pretty sure the Steinle family would feel differently. Is it not national security when the schools here in Los Angeles, many of which have predominantly Spanish speaking students, Is that not national security for those parents of English speaking students? Their kids can't get ahead. They can't accelerate in the learning process fast enough. I think it's that big of a, big of an issue that we need to just keep hammering at home. We have an administration that seems hell bent on degrading the security and safety established by the Trump administration at the southern border under intense scrutiny and criticism. And we've also got an administration that wants to tie the hands of ICE to deport violent criminals from our streets and restrict what they can do. Now, I'm fully aware, looking at the broad breadth of coverage on these new guidelines for ice, that there are still, even with these relaxed standards, these very loose standards, there are still advocates on the left that are saying you're still not going far enough. You're not upholding the dignity of the immigrant. Well, that's just ridiculous. If somebody's here in this country illegally and they're breaking our laws, they should be deported. If somebody's here illegally, they should be deported. This should not be controversial at all. But they are moving forward with a big, bold proposal that will not get passed. And if we in the grassroots movement of the conservatives raise our voices in a collective fashion, we will fight back and we will, we will make sure that the Republicans hold the line on this. Now, they're gonna try and work some of their proposals in through the reconciliation process, which is not what reconciliation is designed to do. Nevertheless, they're going to attempt to do it. But for the really big stuff, we should be able to stop this. That's the good news. But a larger question is why? Why are they trying to do this? There is a built in assumption within the Democrat party and progressives in general that if we allow citizenship for millions of Hispanic, largely Hispanic and otherwise people of color from Africa. There's Haitians. There's a whole composite of different groups that it would be part of this amnesty, that we are going to create a permanent Democrat majority in the United States, that Republicans will never be able to win a national election ever again in the United States of America if we allow millions of undocumented immigrants, illegal immigrants, to become citizens. And that's why they keep telling you 11 because in reality, they know it's 30 or at least 22. They think in one fell swoop they're going to get millions of new voters. And in the short term, they're probably right. But there's an interesting article from the New York Times by Eric Kaufman. He's a professor who studies and writes about demographics and partisanship and ideology. He wrote a piece here February 13th. It's dated. How stable is the Democratic coalition? The party may control the elected branches in Washington, but it may be facing some slippage in the support from minority communities. And what this article is based around is the fact that Trump did surprisingly well with minorities in 2020, so well that it surprised many prognosticators and analysts and talking heads on the left. Now, when Obama built his coalition, he garnered the support of 75% of minorities. They identified as Democrat in 2008. 75%. Do you know what that number is now? As of 2020, that number's down to 51% identify as Democrat. Now you have places in the Rio Grande Valley. You have places in South Florida where the Hispanic population almost went 50, 50. You had places that had not gone Republican in Texas in 95 years. Flip red, largely Hispanic. There's certain counties that are 95% Hispanic that went Republican in Texas. And this author stipulates that the Hispanic population is following a very similar trajectory in American politics of other recent immigrant groups throughout our nation's history, including the Catholics. Catholics that in 1960 and they voted for JFK, were almost 73% of white Catholics identified as Democrats. By 2016, just 38% of white Catholics identified as Democrats and half called themselves Republicans. This is a trend that will continue if the conservatives embrace the populist energy of Donald Trump and stay rooted in conservative values, in life and liberty and opportunity and entrepreneurialism, the things that brought these people to this country in the first place.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Andrew Colvett]

I'm gonna play a clip here from Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida honoring the great Rush Limbaugh.

[Ron DeSantis]

And I know they're still figuring out the arrangements, but what we do when there's things of this magnitude, once the date of internment for Rush is announced, we're going to be lowering the flags to half staff.

[Andrew Colvett]

Thank you. Thank you so much. A truly beautiful sentiment from the governor there. Hats off to Governor DeSantis for honoring Rush Limbaugh in that way. Obviously, Rush, it was a Floridian later in his life, retired, well, never retired, but he moved there from New York to escape the taxes and the weather and was broadcasting out of Palm Beach. So hats off. I want to talk about sort of behind the headlines here a little bit, getting behind the scenes and behind the thinking of the people pulling the strings, both at a media level and a government level. You've got what is arguably it's a once in a generation storm in Texas. And what are we talking about besides the disaster and the people's lives affected? And really what we should be talking about is the utter failure of the federal government to get out in front of this and to lend a helping hand. If there was an honest media or at least a consistent media, whether it's fair or not, this would already have been dubbed and I am hereby dubbing it. If it hasn't been done yet, as Biden's Katrina moment. There's a tweet from yesterday from Joe Biden that said, oh, we're getting generators to Texas. Well, I'M sorry, but it's a little bit late, don't you think? As most of the House's power is coming back on, but we don't have a consistent media. Instead, what are they doing? They are throwing off the scent to a ridiculous scandal with Senator Ted Cruz, and interestingly, a scandal involving New York's Governor Andrew Cuomo. Now, Senator Cruz makes sense why they would want you to be talking about him instead of Joe Biden's failure. But Andrew Cuomo is kind of interesting. I think it's actually incredibly telling that they want us to be talking about Cuomo. And what's also interesting is that you have Democrats piling on. You see, now that Joe Biden's in the White House, the entire calculus of the Democrat Party has changed. Before, they dispatch their attack dogs in the media and their political mouthpieces, both at the state level and the national level, to attack one singular enemy, and that was Donald Trump. But without him in the White House, the calculus has changed. They are happy today that we are talking about Andrew Cuomo. And most conservatives all across the country are eagerly gobbling it up, and rightly so. It's a tragic thing that happened there. He covered up a massive scandal and he deserves to be held accountable for it. And while we're at it, we should hold Chris Cuomo, his brother, accountable. Complete hack that was more interested in cracking jokes on primetime CNN than actually asking his brother real serious questions. And now CNN has silenced him. He can't talk about it. Complete joke. CNN is a joke. But see what's happening. They want us talking about Andrew Cuomo, they want us talking about Senator Cruz, because they know that as long as we're doing that, we are happily distracted from the real scandal that we should be focused on. And just imagine, folks, if the shoe was on the other foot. If Trump was in the White House right now, we would be having calls for a third impeachment. This would be Trump's Katrina, which they eagerly tried to do multiple times when Trump was in the White House. Anytime there was a crisis, a natural disaster, they were like, ah, this is Trump's Katrina. They were. It was like as the storm was approaching, as the hurricane was approaching the mainland, they were already saying, this is going to be his Katrina. Meanwhile, Texas has been without power for days in a once in a generation storm. And just yesterday we get a tweet about generators. Nobody is talking about it because they know that as long as they're number one, as long as their main guy up at the top, Joe Biden, their puppet that they can control. That's already shown time and again in his short time in office that he is more than happy to appease the far left and the radical left and the activist left and prove to them that he's their guy and he's going to advance the progressive agenda. As long as, as long as they got him in office, as long as they can control him and Kamala Harris, they are not going to let anybody touch him. And that's why it doesn't matter how bad the immigration policies are. It doesn't matter that they're saying they're going to raise corporate taxes. It doesn't matter that they're going to raise taxes on the working class. It doesn't matter that they are trying to pass a $1.9 trillion stimulus bill, that even Obama's chief economist is saying it's way too big and it's going to overheat the economy. And that we've got inflation that is already driving up mortgage rates, impending inflation. It doesn't matter about any of that stuff. It doesn't matter how horrific the policies are. It doesn't matter that today we officially rejoin the Paris Climate Accord, which is going to hamstring US Businesses in favor of Chinese and Indian businesses that don't have to meet the same standards. It doesn't matter that he's allowed China to get access to our power grid again and sell component parts. It doesn't matter that he's now again going back to the table with Iran and the failed run in nuclear strategy that Trump set right, which led to unprecedented peace in the Middle East. It doesn't matter how terrible any of these policies are, because as long as you're talking about Ted Cruz and as long as you're talking about Andrew Cuomo, they still get their way. They still win, and they know it. And that's why Andrew Cuomo is now getting thrown overboard. That's why he's, you know, he's a casualty of war. He is unfortunately now going to be swimming on his own because they don't need to protect him. He's the bait. He's the chum in the water that distracts us from the real target, which should be this horrific Biden administration policy agenda and portfolio. It's that bad. You know, I think a lot of us had hoped and prayed that Biden was gonna be a moderate, that he would be Scranton Joe, but he has proved anything but that. Now, I again understand he's got a far left contingent that continues to rail at him, no matter what he does. But that's what he should know. That's what they're designed to do. He can go a mile in their direction and they will demand five. But if he really wanted to bring unity and heal this country, he would reject the socialists, he would reject the cultural Marxists that are yanking him in a borderless globalist direction towards the climate cult, towards widely accepted solutions. The Dream act, that's a place where there you could probably wheel and deal on immigration in exchange for the dreamers, get border enforcement. That's a place where we could find consensus. Instead of doing that, he doesn't even start an opening bid with any enforcement. He just blink in amnesty, essentially. Fast tracking dreamers, those of the Promise act, the Farm Workers act, fast tracking them to citizenship in three years. Three years, I don't exactly know. But that, that might be in time for 2024 when he has to run again. Maybe that's part of the calculus there. These are radical policies and he and his administration are rightly throwing off your scent to Senator Ted Cruz and a trip to Cancun. And all of his lackeys in the media are playing along and they're playing all of us. Meanwhile, Ron DeSantis is showing us how it's done. And a complete flip flop, by the way. Ron DeSantis, they called him Ron DeSantis because he insisted on keeping his beaches open, his restaurants open and his economy open. And they hailed Cuomo because why? Because at the time Trump was in office and Cuomo was their foil. They said, look at how terrible Trump is because look at how great Cuomo is. But now that you got Biden in the office, they don't need him anymore. And they're mob style tactics. They're throwing him overboard. And now DeSantis is the darling and has presented himself as a frontrunner in 2024. Obviously President Trump is still out there. It's just amazing how this calculus is playing out in real time and how most of us are taking the bait and not paying attention to the real target, and that is the radical policies out of Washington D.C. there's a new call from the House to study reparations. Now, reparations, as CNN puts it, is a complex and thorny issue because after all, how do we determine who gets money, who deserves money, who should pay and how much? I mean, if you're talking about somebody that is mixed race and half black and half white, do they pay themselves? This is something Charlie often says. But it gets to a deeper question and I Just want to start off with some sound from the great Larry Elder. He was testifying before Congress and grabbed headlines all over because of how eloquently he stated his case against reparations. A black American, he's a conservative, arguing before Congress that reparations are bad. Let's go ahead and play. Larry Elder.

[Larry Elder]

Gallup asked whether or not Americans would not vote for a black person Referring to Obama would not vote for a woman referring to Hillary Clinton would not vote for a Mormon. Referring to Mitt Romney would not vote for a person as old as John McCain would be 72 years old. And what Gallup found is 5% of Americans said they would not under any circumstances vote for a black person. 11% said they would not under any circumstances vote for a female. 24% said they would not vote for a Mormon. 42% said they would not vote for a person who would be 72 years old when he became president, which would have been the case had John McCain been elected. In other words, Obama as a black person had a smaller barrier than these three white politicians. So having this conversation right now when racism has never been a less significant problem in America to me, is mind boggling.

[Andrew Colvett]

That's exactly right. And if you guys haven't heard all of Larry's testimony there, I definitely encourage you. Google it. Check it out on Rumble. It gave me chills listening to it, and I will tell you why. Because Larry Elder was striking at one of the deepest, most profound, most destructive lies in our culture today, that you are defined by your. The melanin in your skin as opposed to the content of your character. The modern radical left has reversed one of the greatest achievements any society has ever made, and that was the civil rights movement led by Martin Luther King, who had a dream that his four little children would not grow up in a world that judged them by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. And we have a whole movement in this country that says that, that that was not enough and that is not complete. And so what they're trying to do is they're saying, you are not enough. You are not enough. You are a victim. You are an aggrieved class. You cannot make it. You can't achieve because of this evil, wicked country that you have grown up in, when that cannot be further from the truth. The truth is, is that America, despite her flaws, is still the greatest country in the history of the world. And that if you were born here, you are already born privileged. It does not matter the color of your skin. It doesn't matter anything that has to do with your immutable characteristics. What matters is if you believe that you can achieve. And this is the conservative ethic. This is the conservative ethos. This is the heart of the matter that if you just get government off your back, if you get regulations out of your way, if you get these ideologies of victimhood tossed aside with the truth that you are already privileged, there is not white privilege and black privilege and whatever privilege, you are an American, and you are privileged to be here. And we should all fight harder to protect this gift that we've been given. Despite our flaws, we, we are great.

[Charlie Kirk]

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