Podcast Summary: "Bitcoin Jesus" Vs. The Biden Admin
The Charlie Kirk Show | Release Date: December 7, 2024

Host: Charlie Kirk
Guests: Tracy Thurman (Roger Ver’s Attorney), Roger Ver (Cryptocurrency Pioneer), Ryan James Graduski

Introduction and Context

In the December 7, 2024 episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, host Charlie Kirk delves into the escalating conflict between cryptocurrency advocate Roger Ver—fondly dubbed "Bitcoin Jesus"—and the Biden administration. The discussion centers around Ver's legal battles, perceived government overreach, and broader implications for the cryptocurrency industry and American freedoms.

The Case of Roger Ver: A Crypto Pioneer Under Siege

Charlie Kirk opens the episode by highlighting the plight of Roger Ver, a seminal figure in the cryptocurrency space. Ver, an early investor in Bitcoin and creator of Bitcoin Cash, faces severe legal challenges purportedly orchestrated by the Biden administration. Kirk introduces Tracy Thurman, Roger's attorney, and briefly mentions Ryan James Graduski, before transitioning to the main discussion.

Charlie Kirk [02:06]: "Let’s see if they can win me over to advocate him for a pardon."

Lawfare and Government Targeting of Crypto Innovators

Tracy Thurman provides a detailed account of Roger Ver's legal struggles, emphasizing the notion of "lawfare"—the use of legal systems to achieve political ends. She recounts Ver's history with the IRS and ATF, painting a picture of systematic targeting due to his outspoken criticism of government policies and his pioneering work in decentralized finance.

Tracy Thurman [04:02]: "Roger has been one of the biggest critics of the US government's... funding the anti censorship movement... Scene has been a massive threat."

Thurman argues that Ver's situation is a cautionary tale of government overreach, where innovative individuals are punished for disrupting traditional financial systems.

Advocacy for Roger Ver: Calls for Pardon

As the discussion progresses, Charlie Kirk becomes increasingly convinced of Ver's innocence, advocating for his pardon. He highlights the broader threat posed by such legal actions against innovators and calls on listeners to support the movement for Ver's release.

Charlie Kirk [15:42]: "It is freeroger now.com org I’m sorry. Both work, actually."

Tracy Thurman echoes Kirk's sentiments, urging for a presidential pardon or dismissal of charges to prevent further erosion of attorney-client privilege and individual freedoms.

Tracy Thurman [17:08]: "This lawfare needs to end. The incoming government needs to say, we've been the victims of lawfare."

Birthright Citizenship and its Impact on US Demographics

The episode shifts focus to a pressing issue highlighted by guest Ryan James Graduski: the consequences of birthright citizenship on American demographics. Graduski presents data indicating a significant rise in birth rates among non-American mothers, attributing this trend to policies perceived as lenient under the Biden administration.

Ryan James Graduski [19:59]: "The birth rate of the United States went up slightly this year by half of a percentage... 1 in 4 births in 2024 were by women who were not from America."

Graduski links this surge to the NCHV parole program, suggesting that it incentivizes birth tourism, where individuals seek to secure citizenship for their children through birthright provisions.

The 14th Amendment Debate: Legal Interpretation and Supreme Court

A substantial portion of the discussion revolves around the 14th Amendment's interpretation concerning birthright citizenship. Graduski and Roger Ver debate whether the amendment's language extends citizenship to children of illegal immigrants, a stance they argue has never been explicitly ruled on by the Supreme Court.

Ryan James Graduski [25:45]: "The Supreme Court has never ruled on it. If this court did it... Roberts has been fairly good on immigration."

The guests advocate for a Supreme Court decision to clarify the extent of the 14th Amendment, emphasizing that the current ambiguity fuels policies they view as detrimental to national integrity and security.

Roger Ver [24:59]: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof... are citizens of the United States."

Trump Cabinet Appointees and Senate Confirmation Battles

Returning to political dynamics, Graduski discusses the scrutiny faced by Trump-appointed cabinet members during Senate confirmations. He underscores the importance of vetting nominees based on qualifications rather than ideological alignment, criticizing the focus on personal lives over professional capabilities.

Ryan James Graduski [17:30]: "For example, Pete is probably the only one who's on the cusp... They chose to focus on his personal life rather than his qualifications."

This segment highlights partisan tensions and the broader implications for governance and policy-making within the current administration.

Education Reform: Classical Education vs. Current Curriculum

One of the prominent topics is the state of American education. Graduski critiques modern teacher training programs and curriculums, arguing they propagate ideological biases and detract from classical education principles. He advocates for a return to a curriculum based on classical literature and rigorous academic standards, free from what he terms "anti-racist language and literature."

Ryan James Graduski [30:02]: "The biggest problem is the teacher schools... Radicalization program through these teachers colleges."

Graduski cites examples like the Miami Dade school board's shift towards classic-based literature as a positive step towards educational reform.

Technology in Schools: Privacy and Woke Language Concerns

The conversation also touches on the integration of technology in education, raising concerns about data privacy and the presence of "woke language" in educational apps. Graduski points out the lack of regulation in educational software, which often results in the collection and resale of children's data, alongside the infiltration of politically charged content.

Ryan James Graduski [32:13]: "97% of all apps are given to schools for free with the sole purpose then reselling children's data... there's a ton of woke language within the apps themselves."

This criticism underscores the need for stricter oversight and alternative approaches to technology in education to protect student privacy and uphold educational integrity.

Conclusion and Call to Action

As the episode wraps up, Charlie Kirk reiterates his support for Roger Ver, encouraging listeners to advocate for Ver’s pardon and broader reforms addressing government overreach and educational decay. He emphasizes the importance of collective action in preserving American freedoms and fostering innovation.

Charlie Kirk [16:00]: "We are 100% behind it. You won us over. Thank you."

In the final segments, the show briefly touches on future topics and reiterates the importance of engaging with Turning Point USA to drive change.

Notable Quotes:

• Tracy Thurman [04:02]: "Roger has been one of the biggest critics of the US government's... funding the anti censorship movement."

• Ryan James Graduski [19:59]: "1 in 4 births in 2024 were by women who were not from America."

• Tracy Thurman [15:42]: "This lawfare needs to end."

• Ryan James Graduski [30:02]: "The biggest problem is the teacher schools... Radicalization program through these teachers colleges."

Conclusion

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show presents a fervent critique of the Biden administration's policies towards cryptocurrency innovators and immigration, advocating for legal reforms and a return to classical education principles. Through impassioned discussions and detailed analyses, Kirk and his guests call for action to preserve American freedoms and counter perceived governmental overreach.

For further involvement and support, listeners are encouraged to engage with organizations like Turning Point USA and support policy changes that align with the show's conservative, freedom-oriented perspective.