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Charlie Kirk
My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You gotta stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Point USA College chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA High School chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life. And I encourage you to do the same. Here I am, Lord.
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Blake
Use me.
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Charlie Kirk
Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. The Charlie Kirk show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, the leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends and viewers.
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Blake
All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. March 27, 2026. It was great having Molly Hemingway, Shaun Davis and Megan Basham all in studio yesterday.
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Danny
That was great. It just moved them here permanently.
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Blake
I totally agree, but if you missed those episodes, check them out on the podcast. Absolutely do that. We'll have some news a little later on the podcast as well. Listen. We have woke up this morning to a dead of night passage of a partial DHS funding bill. This is according to Representative Keith Self, good dude. Turning point action endorsed in the dead of night with only five senators present on the floor and no one there to object, the Senate rushed through a DHS funding bill that deliberately left ICE and CBP unfunded. Now they are leaving town. No Save America act. Ice, cbp, unfunded. Senate Republicans just gave the Democrats everything they wanted and more. That's coming again from Keith Self. Greg Stubby says, of course, Leader Thune and the Senate Rhinos caved to Democrats who refused to fund ICE and cbp. The American people gave us the House, the Senate and the White House and we still can't pass a bill to fund all of dhs. So pretty disappointing result last night. I'm not.
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Danny
It's like failure theater to me.
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Blake
It's failure theater. And by the way, there was all this talk about staying through the Easter recess, getting this done. No, they've all left. Well, here's the only problem. House Republicans, it seems like, are signaling to Senate Republicans, you better get a return ticket. Better come back to D.C. because I don't think that they are going to fund this. I don't think they're going to pass this bill. So the only way that it passes, which is a possibility, is if a bunch of Democrats get on board with it. So we're gonna see how this plays out. But exactly my thought failure theater. Once again, we have weak leadership in the Senate. You know, I do want to give some sort of grace to the good guys in the Senate because when you have 53 votes, that may seem like a lot, it's not a lot because of the darn filibuster. And all it takes is three squishy people. And it's a frustration.
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Danny
I'm not even gonna say because of the filibuster. The filibuster exists to protect the majority from votes it doesn't want to take.
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Blake
I agree.
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Danny
That is why it exists, the filibuster. The primary beneficiary of the filibuster are people like Mitch McConnell, people like John Thune, who want a ready made excuse for why they haven't delivered on anything their party has run on and promised in 20 years. Because we've been getting promises of serious immigration reform for 20 years. We've getting promises on all manner of things, election reforms, all of that. And then they just go, oh, well, you know, unfortunately, we just can't pass this until you give us. Really, we're going to probably need like 64 votes because you know, you lose a Republican here and there. Well, we're never going to get 64 senators. It's not the 1930s.
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Blake
Yeah. And I mean, you want to depress turnout for the midterms. This is exactly how you do it. I'm telling you, this is a five alarm fire for anybody who will listen, whether that's in the admin leadership. You are depressing turnout. You've got Joe Rogan calling you a bunch of dorks, enthusiasm waning. You've got an Iran situation where you've got reports now from Axios that we're preparing potentially up to 10,000 more troops to send into the Middle East. If you are not going to deliver on domestic policy promises that you ran on, that people voted for you on, you are going to lose those voters. It is that simple. So Senate Republicans pass the Save America act. Do whatever it takes. You are destroying the chances of Republicans in the midterms. You're absolutely destroying the chances. And why not? If we're going to do all the work to send you to Washington to get simple things done, common sense legislation done, and you cannot find a way and all you do is raise excuse after excuse. Then don't be surprised when people don't show up for you. Don't be surprised when the people online that used to cheer you on and get out the vote for you get so frustrated that they don't want to do it anymore. We are at that point where it's going to be impossible to make the case for you if you don't get certain basic things done. And you're leaving people like us on this show completely holding the bag. So I encourage House Republicans deny, reject this awful deal, get back to work, do whatever it takes. I don't care if you can't sleep for a month and a half. That's your job. And if you don't do it, you're dooming everybody, you're dooming the country, you're dooming Western civilization. Because not only are the Republicans the last bastion of anything sensible and good potentially in America, the conservative movement in the United States is the last bastion of hope and freedom for the entire Western civilization. The stakes could literally not be higher. I don't know. Can you make the case. Can you make the case to send these guys back when they can't even get simple things done?
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Danny
Well, I think in general, a frustrating thing with politics is you think of. I like to make the comparison to professional sports because it's something Americans actually care about. And when you have a NFL team and it's during the season, like, how hard. How hard is your team expected to work? They're expected to practice pretty intensely. They're expected to take, except for Allen Iverson, pretty seriously. Yeah. And if you. And if you don't, you tend to, like, wash out on your team. And I just feel like the stakes for the country are pretty high. And it would make a lot of sense to have lawmakers be pretty committed to being there all the time and getting things done. And if you don't want to do it, we can replace you with a lawmaker who will do that. And instead we just have these barnacles on the American body politic. They have basically allowed Congress to become this inert entity that never passes anything useful and repeatedly disappoints. I think the question I'm asking and everyone asking is, wait, I thought the entire justification for the one big beautiful bill last summer was, oh, it has this unprecedented funding for ice and border security. And then actually, six months later, Democrats in the minority can just kind of make you reverse tack on that. And also would. I would be remiss if I didn't Mention that a lot of the guys who are stampeding towards giving the Democrats everything they want on this are, are also the same ones who are the source of so much of our other political difficulties. They're the ones who are the most avid that, oh, we need boots on the ground in Iran. We need to, like, have maximal intervention there. Well, whether that's a good idea or not, it's pretty clear that's going to be politically a politically difficult sell in the midterms. And so you're stacking all these things on top of each other. And what do they have to offer? Basically just that Democrats are evil and bad, which they are, but people are going to vote for them. If you are not offering a good
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Blake
alternative, if you want a depressed turnout in the midterms, keep doing the same thing. Keep doing the exact same thing that you're doing right now. Because right now I'm looking at a situation where we have chapter presidents and they're tabling all over the country and they can't defend these actions. They're getting approached by liberals that are calling out the hypocrisy of this garbage and that, guess what? There's some truth to it. Make it so that we have something to argue that actually holds weight. Make it so that we have something to defend that actually is worth defending. Because right now we're just getting failure theater. We're getting no results. We're getting nothing that makes sense. Nothing at all. So go back. Go to work. Go back to D.C. show us you care. Exhaust yourself on the floor. Faint in the middle of the floor, in the middle of the speech because you've been doing it so long. I don't care. Do something. Do something that we can defend. Right now it's like Mike Lee and Eric Schmidt, and that's what we got. So let's hit this, Blake. We're not getting our domestic agenda passed. And on top of that, it seems like, you know, we're marching into potential of boots on the ground. Okay, I want to get your thoughts on this in the audience. Please email us freedomarliekirk.com Blake's going to break down what the newest news is, and I want to Hear your thoughts. Freedomarliekirk.com we have obviously been, whatever, we're about a month in, maybe a little less, and now we've got the 82nd Airborne mobilized probably already there. We've got some Marines being mobilized now. Axios has a new report of up to 10,000 troops being mobilized.
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Danny
10,000 additional troops.
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Blake
All right, he's gonna break it down. I wanna hear your thoughts.
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Danny
Yeah, well, it's just, it's all. Again, this is one of the toughest conflicts to cover because President Trump has an unusual negotiating style. So he's constantly signaling he might escalate, he might de escalate. Iran is difficult to read because a lot of their leaders are dead. They're often, you know, running a double game. And on top of that, you just have, you have different media operations. It's very clear, for example, that Israel is more hawkish overall than President Trump is. And so, like, they want to egg him on to extend the war, escalate the war. Others are trying to. So there's all sorts of maneuvers going on. And the truth is we don't know exactly what the plan is, but it does seem like, to be frank, we are taking steps towards a course of action that we warned about the very day that the first strike started on, when it was a Saturday. And we talked about it here, which is at that time, it was a purely aerial campaign. And we said we have to worry about whether you start getting into this pattern of steady, step by step escalation where they say if you send in a few of these troops and take a few of these places, they, that's going to resolve it. So now we're, it's, almost everyone's talking, oh, they might take Carg island, they might take these other islands.
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Blake
See, this is exactly how this happens.
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Danny
Yes.
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Blake
This is how. You're the history buff here.
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Ian
Yep.
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Blake
Do you see parallels? And I'm not saying there are, but let's just. And I think this is a completely different situation. I'm not saying what I'm about to say. I'm just drawing a slight parallel. Vietnam. Vietnam, it started with a few advisors and a few, and a few.
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Danny
And then it was eventually, I think we peaked at about 800,000 soldiers.
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Blake
Yeah. And there was a draft. It was.
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Danny
But this is, we're not getting close to that. But even to pick a more comparable one, Afghanistan. Afghanistan started with no US Troops involved other than a handful of Special Forces. They helped the Northern alliance overthrow the Taliban. It was basically air power and a few Special forces guys. And then after that happened, this was 2001, 2002, we have that George W. Bush era. Well, you know, we have this obligation towards nation building. So we start sending a few thousand soldiers. Taliban's not defeated. We're training them, we're building schools. And then by the time you get to Obama, they're, they're selling this Idea. Well, we need a troop surge in Afghanistan. And if we do a troop surge, that'll be able to, like we did in Iraq, get in order. Yeah, like we did in Iraq. And it actually worked better in Iraq because it at least had a much more clear objective. And, you know, it's a more urban society. But in Afghanistan, they just kind of threw money at the problem, threw troops at the problem, but they didn't fix the fundamental issue of how do we define what are, what's our objective? What does victory actually look like? How do we get there? It was just sort of have troops there, get in fights with the Taliban and hope it works out. And what we have to worry about is there certainly are factions within our own government that would just love to see an Iraq style conflict with Iran. They might, they won't say that, but they'd love to see it. And what they'll sell to people is this line of, you know, yeah, if you, if you send a few troops here, that's, that's gonna make the regime collapse. And when it doesn't, they'll, you know, it's, it's like a heroin dealer. And they'll say like,
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Blake
so you might as well, like, see it all the way through. So just do a little bit more and then just, oh, we're almost there, we promise. Just if you could add this little element here. And this is why regime change in the Middle east is so fraught. And I get it, they want the people to rise up, they want the marching in the streets. I think that was kind of one of these indicators that helped lead to this escalation. And I want to just give President Trump his due here. He has not shown any indication through past operations to be into the idea of a long, drawn out quagmire. He's not that kind of president. We're getting indications earlier in the week that where there was positivity that this was going to be wrapping up soon, but now we're getting indications it could be 10,000 more combat troops in the Middle East. And we have this report from Reuters exclusive. Now it's Reuters. So take it with a grain of salt. But I've been hearing similar things, so it's fascinating us. Can only confirm about a third of Iran's missile arsenal is destroyed. Sources say, well, that's problematic. Now maybe the answer to that is that the military has taken out a bunch of their ability to shoot said missiles. So. Okay, so maybe that's a good thing. The point is, I've been hearing similar rumors that there is stockpile left over that, you know, we don't know about all of this to say we are creating the conditions where you got. Apparently gas in Los Angeles is over $8 a gallon. Now, Los Angeles does some of this harm to themselves, but what is it like five in Phoenix right now? About five bucks. And yeah, there's places where it's higher, places where it's lower. That's gonna just be a drag. If you want to hear about low numbers with Hispanics, that's gonna be one of them. All right. That's gonna be one of the driving factors here.
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Danny
A year ago, if you wanted to lay out a situation for electoral disaster for the Republican Party, it would include open ended, expensive war in the Middle
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Blake
east with few or little focus, ostensibly. Now there is things happening behind the scenes. We're not trying to black pill here. There's a lot of good that has been done, but we're not talking about it enough because we've got a war in Iran and now we might be sending ground troops. The exact thing that we sort of promised the country was not gonna happen under President Trump.
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Danny
What's so sad is we actually genuinely have a lot to be proud of domestically.
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Blake
Totally.
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Danny
In fact, constant new stuff. It's like Texas has. Texas isn't giving licenses to illegals anymore.
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Blake
We just denaturalized a couple of criminals and we're working on that.
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Danny
We're denaturalizing citizens. We're sending ICE agents to break up these companies that only employ illegals. We've done great stuff on the border. We're suing medical schools.
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Blake
There's fraud too much.
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Danny
They're actually doing tons of great stuff.
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Blake
We're not talking about it.
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Danny
The focus will be on that. If the focus is not overseas.
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Blake
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Jonathan Cho
Hey guys, how you doing?
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Blake
Doing great. So you have been doing some investigative journalism, the real stuff out in California. Why don't you set the stage for us? And we got a bunch of clips here.
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Jonathan Cho
Yeah. Well, this has now been going on for two weeks. It's a joint investigation with multiple independent journalists, including James o', Keefe, our own Savannah Hernandez, Brandon Dre, as well as muckrackers Anthony Rubin and Cam Higby, as you mentioned. And we've been essentially doing a swarm on LA's skid row. This is a human dumping ground. Homeless drug addicts. And what we've essentially uncovered is that ballot petition gatherers are now paying these people on the streets for their signatures for all kinds of what we believe is voter fraud.
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Blake
So let's go ahead and play one of these clips that you have provided, Cho, just because I think it's shocking when you see it actually play out. This is real evidence registering people to
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Charlie Kirk
vote in exchange for money.
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Jonathan Cho
Cam Higby and I went undercover and witnessed multiple instances of ballot initiative workers.
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Danny (youngest panelist)
I want to get five bucks.
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Blake
I heard I can get five bucks
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Jonathan Cho
for paying cash to homeless drug addicts for their signatures. A felony level crime according to California law.
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Tom Emmer
Every single homeless person on skid row
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Danny
that we asked is aware that this is happening.
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Jonathan Cho
But this guy took it to another level. Oh, my bad.
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Ian
Put down.
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Blake
You're done. You r to vote.
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Jonathan Cho
No, he wanted us to sign these initiatives using other people's names and home addresses. My name John, don't you put that name, which is identity fraud, another felony.
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Blake
Is this right, brother?
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Jonathan Cho
When I showed hesitation. Listen to what he had to say.
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Blake
Walk us through what, what was happening there. Jonathan Cho.
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Jonathan Cho
So as you could tell, Cam and I were essentially hanging around the corner of San Pedro and seventh and Skid row and we see a group of guys with clipboards. And on those clipboards are the ballot initiatives. And they were Intentionally targeting homeless drug addicts. We walked up to them and out of nowhere they say, hey, do you want to sign? And, you know, I say, sure. They asked me if I'm registered to vote because that's bare minimum requirement. Clearly I say no, but it didn't matter. Instead I proceed to try and sign my actual name. I say, my name's John. And they're like, no, no, no, no, we don't want you to sign John. And then he asked me, do you have a conscience? Essentially? Do you have a conscience? What was happening was that not only were they having me sign this ballot initiative for money, they were having me sign under someone else's name. So not only are the homeless drug addicts the victims here, there are actual victims of identity fraud.
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Blake
So then you, you actually interviewed. It looks like a whistleblower that knows something about this. SOT 9. How do you decide whether somebody uses their name or somebody else's name?
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Whistleblower
Well, I asked them some questions like, when are you rushing to vote? And if they remember something, like, okay. Then I was like, I just let them go, you know what I mean? I let them sign. But if they don't remember or they. The gang banger guys, they'll give us. They'll give us, you know, a list of names. I'm not a list, but they write on a piece of paper or whatever and I just gave it to them,
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Blake
you know, so when they pull the
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Whistleblower
people's names, they get it from the registration office. They pay a lot of money for the registration office directly.
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Blake
The, like the state.
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Whistleblower
Yeah.
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Blake
Wow.
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Jonathan Cho
Really?
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Whistleblower
Yeah, the registration office is corrupt as hell, but it's legal though.
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Blake
And so they can just pull. Is it like a voter registration or a DMV or something?
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Whistleblower
Yeah, no, it's a voter registration office.
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Blake
Oh, they get it right from the
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Whistleblower
voter straight from now, bro.
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Blake
This is crazy. Like the level of organization and coordination, the fact that this is. So many people seem to know about it, we're just now finding out this is a thing.
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Jonathan Cho
Yeah, so many things going on over there in that whistleblower interview. First of all, these bad actors are using the danger and risk of going into skid row as cover. They know city and state officials aren't going to go in. There's barely any law enforcement. So again, they've been operating with total impunity. So this has not been going on for just the last two weeks. It's been going on for years. According to people on the ground, that whistleblower was also alleging that there are Democrats involved In this, along with gang bangers, I'm talking about local LA gang bangers. And this is where it got really murky and sensitive. He didn't want to name anything, any of the actual gangs or the people behind it because he was afraid for his own safety and life. He took an enormous risk talking to us. At the same time, he's one of the few now that are starting to flip because he's had a crisis of conscience because once we got the footage of all of this undercover signature gathering happening, you know, cash for ballots, he kind of started to realize he's in big trouble. He's either going to get out outed one way or the other, so he might as well talk right now. So he's led us, you know, to a lot of evidence. We have a lot of this on camera. So it's not really up to local officials and state officials, Governor Gavin Newsom, Attorney General Rob Bonta, to finally take action. And they've said they've started an investigation, but we don't have any timelines for arrests or charges now.
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Danny
Well, I think that that's a pattern we've seen over and over. You can prepare, produce a lot of evidence, and as long as it's in the state's hands, they could say, oh, it's under investigation. And then you can just play it out, draw it out and eventually nothing happens. I mean, it's California, they're professionals at this. I can't, I'll be blunt, I can't imagine that a system that organized with that many people in on it exists without them having pretty high confidence. No one's ever going to do anything about it. It's just like the hospice fraud that's happening a few miles to the north of skid row, where when you have 70 fraudulent hospices in a single building, they are operating with the assumption the state knows what we're doing and they don't care.
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Blake
Yeah, that line, total impunity stands out, Cho, because it just feels like the problems in this state are so huge and it's so vast and there's so many people corrupt and corrupted within the system that nobody's going to be held accountable is what it feels like.
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Jonathan Cho
Yeah, Blake, Andrew. That's what we're concerned about. This one party rule controlling every aspect of this investigation. And again, this has now been going on for two weeks. James o' Keefe's crew and the rest of the independent journalists were calling ourselves the Citizen Justice League. We're going to put out a video, a story, every Single day until someone gets arrested and we see charges. But that's the concern right now. How long is it going to take to actually, you know, bring somebody to account even after presenting all of this evidence?
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Blake
Well, we got more footage here, so I want to play it. This is a California Democrat lawmaker. Let me just play the clip. I don't know who's saying it.
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Jonathan Cho
11 Our team immediately notified authorities, including Governor Gavin Newsom and Attorney General Rob Bonta.
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Danny
They do not have that authority.
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Jonathan Cho
They responded by saying this would be investigated.
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Blake
These people are just continuing the cycle
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Danny
of harm and suffering on these people so they can manipulate them for political gain.
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Blake
Yeah, and that stands out. That's sort of been what I've been thinking this whole time, is they're taking advantage of drug addicts, the mentally ill, the homeless, the impoverished, the desperate, and they're just using them in pawns in this sort of, like you said, one party rule state to further entrench their own power. So this is the big rub, right, that you're asking California Democrats to investigate something that's not in their best interest to snuff out?
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Jonathan Cho
Yeah, this is happening. I don't know if you guys have personally been to skid row. You guys have seen the images for years now. Yeah, it's guys, then, you know, it's the entire area again, as I refer to it as a human dumping ground. It's also where all of the social service agencies, nonprofits, funded by taxpayers, are concentrated and based. So all of this is happening right there. And these nonprofits, what I call and refer to as Homeless Inc. They allegedly are supposed to be there to take care of these vulnerable men and women. But my question is how have they allowed this to go on for so many years now without sounding the alarm? So it's not just the lawmakers here who need to be held to account or, or law enforcement, but we've got to be asking questions about the others in the area who I believe are in on this grift.
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Danny
Oh, absolutely. And I think you zoom out to the bigger picture. We get a lot of emails from people asking, you know, can we save California? And we would love if California could be saved. But you really have to appreciate kind of the scale of the atrocity that they have enacted, which is to have they have a blob of thousands, tens of thousands of people who are basically impossible to track, which they can use as a vote bank, as a fraud depository. You know, you can dump $40 billion in homeless funding on them and it'll show no impact whatsoever. Somebody's getting that money and they just have built this like perfect machine. Meanwhile, if you check other headlines, I think they've stopped repaving roads in Los Angeles because. Because that was proving too expensive. They'll dump $100 billion in that high speed rail and that's never going to get built. There's something really dark about it and I feel like it'll never get fixed unless the federal government were able to find a nice sustained way to imprison a very large number of people there. And I don't even know if this admin has the ability to.
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Blake
It's like $40 billion. It's like however many billions that have been dumped into this homeless crisis and it just persists. It doesn't seem like there's any will to actually clean it up, remove them forcibly off the streets so that you can't be taking advantage of them like this so that they don't live in squalor. Do you see any indications, Jonathan Cho, I mean, away from the fraud with the ballots and the cash for ballots, that people are actually being helped down there?
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Jonathan Cho
Yeah, look, the only saving grace here, quite frankly, is I think we've lost all faith in California officials. But the feds are aware and so is the Trump administration. They've acknowledged what's happening happening here. They're aware of our investigation. And I've also talked to my sources at the US Department of Housing and Urban Development. They're the ones funding these homeless nonprofits and they're scrutinizing again, the money. Now this is all about the money trail. Once that stops flowing into this area, I believe a lot of this fraud could stop as well.
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Blake
That's encouraging. Yeah. And Scott Turner's a great guy. He's a fantastic man. Jonathan Cho, TP USA Frontlines. Great job. I'm excited to see this coalition of these journalists coming together. And I know you guys have plans to do this repeatedly throughout the year, so keep up the great work. Jonathan Cho, TPO Safe Frontlines. Check him out on X at Cho show, which is a great, great handle. Thanks, Jonathan. We'll talk to you soon.
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Jonathan Cho
Thanks for amplifying this, guys. Take care.
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Blake
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Jonathan Cho
Here's the thing, like, first of all, America is great. Make America greater. I'm down.
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Blake
But make America great again.
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Jonathan Cho
And then it becomes a movement of
- [30:33]
Blake
a bunch of dorks.
- [30:34]
Jonathan Cho
Because a lot of them are dorks. A lot of them, these really weird, uninteresting, unintelligent people that have got something they cling to. And there's a lot of people that are just real, genuine patriots and they're all lumped into this one group. And you got to accept the dorks, too.
- [30:51]
Blake
That Blake.
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Danny
I mean, it's. It was always possible that would happen. President Trump built a very eclectic coalition to win in 2024, but it was not a coalition that really existed in the past. This collision of podcast bros and crypto
- [31:12]
Blake
bros. Crypto bros. Tech bros. Libertarian conventional.
- [31:15]
Danny
Yeah, the tech right, the conventional conservatives, Christian right. Some people coming in from racial groups that normally didn't join. And a lot of them were getting on board with different, you know, for various promises that were made. And if not all of those are delivered on, it's going to fracture apart. And also some of it's just gonna be reversion to the mean. I mean, Joe Rogan was this Obama bro, Bernie bro, years ago. There's gonna be some reversion to the mean. These guys. It's a type of person who very quickly gets disillusioned with people or movements and attaches to the new thing.
- [31:51]
Blake
They will abandon you. I mean, this is actually a really important point. And we used to be like, way more heightened about this, by the way. It's great to have his support when he has it, but he's gonna. He will. He's got no affiliation. He's got no long loyalties. He's got no devotion to this broader project, this broader movement. And so, like, on the one hand, I'm not at all surprised, but I think it is important to watch his evolution from, you know, actually endorsing President Trump in 2024, which he did it late, but listen, he did it. It was noteworthy. To basically calling everybody a bunch of dorks. Yeah. And, you know, this is where I go back to our first segment. If the Senate is not gonna pass common sense stuff, if they're not gonna fight, they're not gonna fight as hard as unpaid activists in their local communities, then, listen, man, you're not giving us anything to defend this with. Pass the Save America act, pass DHS funding, or, you know, fight till the absolute brutal end to make sure it happens. You're not giving the base anything to get up for, and that's a problem. And then you pile on top of everything, this war in Iran. Now there's a clip from Rubio that just broke. So I'm gonna play it, and it's. I think it's a good sign, so I want to play it here. Sat 16 being sent to the Middle east, sir, what role could they serve
- [33:15]
Danny (youngest panelist)
other than preparing the way for a potential ground invasion?
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Blake
And while you speak about several weeks, are you concerned that this could embroil
- [33:22]
Danny (youngest panelist)
the US in the kind of prolonged conflict.
- [33:25]
Blake
Excuse me, that President Trump came to office promising to avoid?
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Mike Johnson
This is not going to be a prolonged conflict. The objectives I've outlined to you, again, I repeat them, because I see these reports like, are the users not clear on what objectives are? We've been as clear as you can possibly be from the very first night of what the objectives of this mission are. We're going to destroy their factories that make missiles and rockets and drones. We're going to destroy their navy, we're going to destroy their Air Force, and we are going to significantly destroy their missile launchers. So they can never hide behind these things to get a nuclear weapon. We can achieve. We are achieving all those objectives. We are ahead of schedule on most of them.
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Blake
So he says this is not going to be a prolonged conflict. I think that's promising. Yeah, I think that's promising. I'll take it. And so we're holding them to that. And again, I want to reiterate, President Trump has never given us any indication from past conflicts that he's at all interested in a prolonged quagmire forever war. As a matter of fact, he was the original critic of the way that the neocons and the Bush era conducted these types of conflicts. And so like, listen, President Trump's earned a lot of trust, but we've let's get lost. Trust can be lost. And so again, we're kind of doing a quick wrap up of all the main stories here. This is a Tom Emmer and Mike Johnson, Whip Tom Emmer are absolutely lambasting the Senate GOP for what they did last night.
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Tom Emmer
SOT17 well, actually I'll start out with our speaker is very unhappy.
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Charlie Kirk
I'm not happy.
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Tom Emmer
Our whole leadership group, group, what the Senate did was frankly not right. We are going to make sure that border is funded. This is about making sure that President Trump's number one promise was that the border was going to be secure. He's accomplished with Republican leadership, incredible things with the southern border. It has never been as tight as it is right now. But we are not going to allow these radicals, anarchist, Marxist, socialist Democrats to literally stop or create an open border situation again like we experienced under Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. And we're going to make sure that we continue to deport criminal illegal aliens. This is what Americans want.
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Blake
Well, good for the House gop. This is I like to see them having some fight when the Senate is abdicating. So that's a good sign. And let's, let's end this hour, Blake, on a clip from Charlie and sometimes, you know, even we need to hear it as well. And this is CK saying kind of what I'm saying. Obviously he'll say it better about how Trump has earned some trust. So let's focus on this and we'll get through it together.
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Charlie Kirk
Side 18 as I've said once, and I'll say again, President Trump has beyond earned our trust on all foreign affair issues. He took out Soleimani, he took out isis, he has bombed the Houthis. President Donald Trump has been a leader who is willing to use American military might where necessary, but not for prolonged conflicts. He's not a nation builder guy. He's not a let's change the population sentiment guy. There's only one nation that Donald Trump wants to build and that is America. He wants to rebuild this country with infrastructure, a border, rising wages to get rid of inflation, mass deportations. President Donald Trump is focused on pouring money back into America. He's focused like a laser beam on that. And President Trump has earned our trust on all things foreign affairs.
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Danny
He's earned our trust, and we have. This is definitely the biggest test of that trust. But if he can successfully navigate this to a conclusion, that will be the best vindication of that trust.
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Blake
And this is, as you said, the biggest test.
- [37:26]
Danny
The biggest test by far.
- [37:28]
Blake
We're not trying to mislead the audience.
- [37:30]
Danny
Politics is not super difficult. In the end, it is. Deliver on your promises that you made
- [37:36]
Blake
to your voters and people that got you into office.
- [37:38]
Danny
Get back. Yeah. Get back to what you ran on and deliver on those things. And Republicans will be in a stronger position. That's the lesson of this hour.
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Blake
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Danny (youngest panelist)
Thanks for having me on.
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Blake
Yep. So it's our Ask us Anything hour, so you get to be a part of the show. Send us your thoughts, your questions, your concerns, all of the things. But I want to read an email. We asked you guys for your thoughts and we got one from somebody who I think a really thoughtful email. It says, as a magus voter and someone who voted for Trump three times, it's very disappointing to hear troops are heading to the Middle East. It's hard not to think we're headed to a bush 41 lie of read my lips. My husband and I have three sons, two of draft age. One more to be in a year. We have nephews of draft age. I don't want to see one foot of an American soldier on their soil. It breaks my heart to see families already having to welcome home their dead soldier in a flag draped casket. No Americans should be dying. Trump is losing support on this. We in the lower middle class have never yet felt the relief that he brags about time after time. Low info. Voters will remember this in November. Trump needs to come down with a hammer on all the weak rhinos, US Oil companies, price gouging us. He needs to take this as seriously as he did the border or he'll lose the Republican Party.
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Danny
I mean, I saw a great post on X that just said there's policies, there are policies you can do that will have a damaging effect on, on the economy. And the obvious one you could have done was real mass deportations would hurt the economy. We've seen a ton in the short run businesses in the short run, of course, a ton of businesses have gotten so addicted to illegal labor, low wage immigrant labor, that it is massively disruptive to pluck those people out from them. And it would take them a while to adapt. That would have an economic consequence, but the long term benefit would be great. And I think a lot of people are frustrated that we might get a similar level of economic disruption, maybe more. Yeah. From a conflict that he didn't run on fighting and no one was particularly excited for him to fight. And that even right after it begins, you're stuck trying to win people over to it rather than getting the usual rally around the flag effect. Every other war we've fought in my lifetime, certainly Iraq, Afghanistan, you know, the involvements we had in Yugoslavia and then fire wars going way further back, you know. Yeah. Venezuela, similar going way further back. Vietnam, Korea, World War II, World War I. Every war starts with a big surge of popular enthusiasm. They're patriotic, rallied behind the flag. Our country's been wrong. Let's go win. And then if it's going badly, it depletes from there. Or you just win and you know, that never happens.
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Blake
We haven't saw this in Ukraine. Candidly. We started funding Ukraine. Yeah.
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Danny
Ukraine started off with, I think 92% support for us backing them. And then it declined from there. Charlie was very lonely in thinking it was a bad idea to get involved. But now it's a much more 50, 50 issue. This is a rare conflict where it's starting as maybe 50, 50, probably less. And the only way you can win people over is to win it quickly and prove that it was a good idea and not expensive.
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Blake
Correct.
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Danny
If it drags on, it's going to be a very big anchor around the administration. And we don't say that to Be black pillars. We don't say that to be doomers.
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Blake
We say that because we care about the, care about success.
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Danny
We want to win. And there are people who are going to just sell this saccharine, you know, narrative. Everything's great, don't worry about it. All the polls are lies. That is why we talk to young people. That is why we ask for the emails.
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Blake
You know, probably the thing in this email that you should be most concerned about is this line we in the lower middle class have never felt yet the relief he brags about time after time. And to Blake's point, if you were going to take a big shot, if you were going to do something bold that you knew was going to be disruptive, why couldn't it have been just massively going after illegal aliens that are employed? By the way, this is what's so interesting about the Cesar Chavez stuff. We talked about this. I think on Thoughtcrime he's lifted up as this left wing hero. The truth is, Cesar Chavez, well, beyond being a pedophile and a rapist, which are obviously, these are new revelations. But he would go through the state of California and his goons would literally beat up illegal immigrants. You know why? Because he thought that they lowered the wages of his union workers. They lowered the wages of American workers. So, you know, that was a disruptive thing. We've known that business interests want their cheap labor. Well, too bad you can't have it anymore. Too bad that's going to be disruptive for the economy. Too bad that's going to be disruptive for your business. The long term benefit outweighs the cost. The American people voted for that kind of thing. So if you're going to take a big swing, do it on the thing that's actually popular. Do it on the thing that we could defend. Yeah.
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Danny
And that we just, again, we say this, Danny, you're the youngest one here. You talk to young people the most
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Blake
about you talk to our chapters.
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Danny (youngest panelist)
Yeah, I'm telling you guys right now, to all like the boomers out there,
- [43:59]
Blake
not just boomers, but like there's no
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Danny (youngest panelist)
disrespect, it's just the biggest disconnect is what the thing is. They aren't. There's full at different ends of the spectrum right now, especially on the war and there's a storm coming where they're just not gonna vote. They feel like no matter what party is involved, it doesn't matter.
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Danny
We want to be clear, there's a difference here. This does not mean that the war itself is bad. It does not mean that the war itself is unjustified. But what we are warning is regardless of whether the war is justified or not, whether it's a good idea or not, whether it's necessary or not, the war with the people who took President Trump over the hump in 24, it is unpopular with those marginal new members of the Trump coalition, and a lot of them are leaving the coalition over that, are feeling discouraged over that. And we have to recognize that or we're going to walk into a political disaster. You have to approach all political questions with clear eyes like that. It's something Charlie always emphasized and was very good at.
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Blake
Well, here's where it really becomes a red flag for me. And I know we haven't taken any calls yet, and I'm sorry, this email, I thought was really thoughtful. Our chapter leaders, we had Gabe Saint on from Wyoming, and he said something that I have not stopped thinking about since he came on the show. And he said, when we're tabling whether we're getting confronted from other conservatives or libs on campus about these items, they can't defend them. And we are left in a position of. We are in limbo. Listen, we love President Trump. President Trump has done a great job on many fronts. He started this rebellion against foreign adventurism. He gets all the credit in the world for that. He's not gotten us into forever wars and quagmires. And so we're basically left in a position where we're just trusting that that's going to be the case here, too. While also acknowledging Iran is the biggest challenge yet. The ground troops is going to be the biggest challenge yet. If those end up happening, I don't know how to defend that because we didn't run on it. I don't have a defense for it. I don't know what to tell our kids at these chapters that are left to sort of make excuses for a policy action that nobody voted for. So you got to give us something. That's all I'm saying. And to Danny's point, Danny's in your young 20s. He's talking to a lot of these kids, and they don't know what to say. So when you have that type of dynamic emerging, give us something. Explain something. Have JD Vance go out on the podcast tour and defend this. Have Marco Rubio go on the podcast tour and defend this. Explain what's going on here, because we're just all left to kind of hope and pray. I mean, Danny, am I misrepresenting this?
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Danny (youngest panelist)
No, no, not at all. They're just, they're struggling to back any of what's going on right now, and they're looking for an answer. And right now they're not being given anything. So something needs to change.
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Blake
So we do this out of love because we want to see the coalition healthy. We want to see people be able to defend what the administration is doing, and we want to be successful in the midterms. Democrats are unacceptable. That has not even changed. I saw that from Megyn Kelly. She's been a very big, loud critic. She was even saying, you got to vote Republican. There's no other option. But golly, man, you know, give us something. Fight for the save America. Elizabeth, please unmute yourself. And welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Thanks for being a member.
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Elizabeth
Hi, Andrew. Hi, Blake. Hi, Danny. How are you today?
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Blake
Doing great. How are you?
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Elizabeth
I'm well, thank you. So I had an idea that I would hope would bring the youth vote back and also get us everything that we want with student loans. I didn't realize, like, the interest goes on forever. And like, you can make payments. It doesn't really affect the balance. So I thought if Congress passed a bill where, for example, you took out $100,000 in loans after you paid $120,000 back, you're paid off, done. And they can make it retroactive. So it's not student loan forgiveness, it's just that you never have to pay back more than 20% of what you've actually borrowed. And we tie this to everything we've ever wanted. Immigration reform, border funding, ICE funding, all of those executive orders from President Trump all tied in to this one option of we restructure the financing and make it retroactive for student loans. And also it would bring in a useful, I would think, and also it would help with like family formation and buying homes. What do you guys think of that?
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Blake
Go ahead, Blake.
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Danny
Well, so some of this does at least exist for some cases. I don't know exactly what cases it exists for, but there is, for example, the pay as you earn plan for federal student loans. I think that's 20 years of on time payments and it's like 10% of your discretionary income, which that means it excludes taxes and certain other things. Health care. Yeah. And if you pay in consistently over that for 20 years, you can get loans forgiven. So some of that does exist. I do agree with you. I would say your specific deal, the thing it would run into is you'd still probably need Democrats on board with it. And Democrats. Okay, they'll Just never embrace immigration reform. They are truly religiously fanatical that foreign criminals should come into our.
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Blake
But I do love what you're thinking about here, Elizabeth, because you're saying, what is the bone that we can throw to? The Democrats get everything we want. They get something ostensibly that they want, and therefore, if they're gonna reject it, if they're gonna block it, then they have to go on record blocking something that young people really like. I love the creativity, and I'm gonna think about it more, but to Blake's point, I don't know that this is the silver bullet that we need, but it's creative. And so I like the strategy. And maybe there's a way to work something like this where they get something that they want, we get to claim credit for it, and we get a lot of things we want.
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Danny
The big strategic picture to acknowledge, which you're correct to see, is that student loans are a huge problem in America. Just the number of people who are on them, the scale of them, they're a big problem in America, and they are a wedge that the left uses to bring in young people, that young people take on a ton of debt to go to school. And it's a very imposing thing, and it makes them very sympathetic towards this socialist nonsense that gets fed to them by huckster candidates like Zoran Mamdani, AOC and so on. And we want to find ways to break that hold. The other reason we'd want to break the student loan cartel, if you will, is this is a big part of what's enriching colleges, which are basically left wing organizations. It's their giant reserve of jobs for left wingers, spending for left wingers, institutional power for the left. And so we do want to find a way to change the way student loans work.
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Blake
Well, the federal government broke student loans when they got involved in them, Right. So we work with YREFI that handles private student loans. Well, a lot of the loans are now federal, Right. Which the college cabal took as a blank check to just keep inflating tuition prices, building fancy buildings, new stadiums every
- [51:16]
Danny
year they would hike the max for how much you could take on. And the Trump administration, one of the accomplishments they've done quietly is they've stopped automatically increasing how much in loans you can take out. And lo and behold, a bunch of schools are no longer hiking their tuition
- [51:29]
Blake
automatically because it was a blank check. It was a blank check for the college cabal. And guess what we're doing when we do that? You're empowering the very institutions that hate you and that are undermining the country. So we need to stop doing that. But I think in general, private student loans make a whole lot more sense than federal. And I'll explain why. Private student loans, if you're a private entity, you have actual skin in the game that you have to make sure you get your money back. Because why give a loan out if you're not going to get paid back? That's the whole point of a loan is you make it back with interest and you make a profit on it. If you are giving loans out for somebody that is not a good candidate to. To have a loan that they're not going to make that money back, they're not going to be able to repay you, then you're not going to give that loan out. That would have a forcing function effect across the college cabal to make sure that their degrees are worth it, that students are actually getting jobs on the other side of their degree process, that they get into a marketplace and they can actually make money and it would sort of weed out the terrible degrees. Only the people with rich parents could afford the underwater basket.
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Danny
Yeah, I think in general, what a big problem. A big source of problems for student loans is that they are basically anyone can claim an entitlement to them, whether they're studying anything useful, whether they are likely to be able to pay them off, whether the school they are going to is particularly good. Basically we have some standards for for profit institutions, but for nonprofit institutions, there's very little expectation that a program be worth it.
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Blake
And yeah, but think about it. The whole.
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Danny
No, sorry, it's just.
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Blake
Please.
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Danny
So the whole thing is built who is the biggest beneficiary? The permanent beneficiary is always the colleges. It's always their administrators, their staff. The primary beneficiary is not aimed at being students. And I think big reforms you'd want. Yeah, some of that could be a pack on how much you have, a cap on how much you have to repay. But the best reforms of all are we shouldn't give student loans unless there is a reasonable expectation this loan will be worth it. And the other reform I'm a big fan of is we should shift towards a system where colleges are on the hook if a person who attends them on loans is unable to repay it. Make a college effectively whatever word you want to use, but make them co sign a loan, make them cosign the loan and yes, that student is the first person to repay it.
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Blake
I love this idea.
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Danny
But if they don't the college is repaying.
- [53:50]
Blake
You know why I love this idea? Because it will also help with admissions. They're not going to start keep admitting people that they don't have a strong belief that that person is a good candidate for a degree, that they are qualified, that they are smart enough to get a good job that can actually pay that loan back. Right now they're getting all mixed up in this ideology. Well guess what? Ideology gets thrown out the window when dollars and cents start not adding up. So I love that. And by the way, the whole reason the federal government got involved in the student loan process is because you could make an argument that this was good for the country. Like we are doing a public good by ensuring more and more young people get college degrees. Well, I'm not so sure that it is in the public interest to get more and more people educated beyond their intelligence or to get degrees that don't mean anything, that don't train them for anything. So the whole system needs reform because it's broken and it's actually ending up in results that don't help the country. And so I love that co signing idea. I think we should push that hard. I don't know if young people will get the memo but I just remember when I was coming a lot of this came up when I was coming of age because you know, they were like, well, Europeans, they give a free
- [54:56]
Danny
education and they all spend sit in School for 40 years and they have a youth unemployment rate of 25% and they're stagnant and they're still importing infinity immigrants from abroad to replace themselves.
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Blake
So let's not be like Europe.
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Danny
Let's not be like Europe. Yeah, no one wants to be like Europe.
- [55:11]
Blake
I think that mirage has been successfully.
- [55:15]
Danny
If the mirage has not been dispelled, go to East London.
- [55:18]
Blake
Yep. Elizabeth, thank you for calling in. Hopefully we got to your question. I love the way you're thinking. It's strategic. Good. Get them a bone and we get everything we want. And so I'm going to think on that more. You know, we spend a lot of time on this show talking about culture, about why strong families matter, why values matter, why faith matters. But here's something practical. If you actually want to build a strong family someday, you have to start by meeting someone who shares those same values and convictions. And in today's culture, that's not always easy. A lot of apps are built around casual connections, instant gratification, no long term vision. And that's just not what many of you are looking for. You want something better. That's why I like Upward. Upward is a dating app designed around faith and shared values. People who care about commitment, integrity, marriage, and family. You're starting from common ground instead of trying to negotiate your core beliefs three months later into the relationship. That kind of clarity really matters if faith is central to your life or even if it's something that shaped how you were raised and how you see the world. Upward connects you with people who take that seriously. If you're tired of the confusion and you're ready to date with intention, with marriage and family in mind, download Upward and start building on the right foundation. Because strong relationships don't just happen by accident. They start with shared values. Download the Upward app. Today,
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Danny
Mary asks, what advice would you give young adults struggling to find the point of continuing to advocate and fight for what's right? I am in the middle of a massive legal battle with the third largest health care group and medical school in my home state, I guess. So that's kind of a big picture question. Unfortunately, we can't get the details on that suit. But I do think the bigger question, how do you find the motivation to keep fighting when stuff is tough? Is the thing a lot of people are asking. That was a big theme of our first hour. And maybe we can get that clip from Charlie because I know we've aired it before, but as Charlie would say, guys, we don't fight because we are likely to win. Hopefully, we'll win. But the reason you fight is because it's the right thing to do. You fight for your country because it is the right thing to do. And you have to do that even if you know it's doomed, even if you know it will fail you. You have to fight for the right thing.
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Blake
Yeah. You know, you think back to, like, Churchill and World War II and the Blitz and how he rallied the troops. I don't know. We should pull that famous Churchill clip, because I think it's inspiring. And I would also say that deeper than that, what does it profit a man to gain the whole world but to lose his soul? And I was speaking with some folks at the Federalists. That's why Molly Hemingway and Sean were in town yesterday. And, you know, I talked about somebody asked a question, what's going to make the country good? Do we need revival before the country can be restored fully? And I would say yes, ultimately we fight because our faith compels us to, because our value set compels us to, as Blake was saying. And what Charlie was saying is that you fight because it's the right thing to do. Well, how do you know what the right thing to do is? Well, you lean on your faith. You lean on scripture. You lean on the eternal things, the good, the true, the beautiful. And I think without an anchoring in the eternal, without an anchoring in what God wants for this world, you know, we pray. The one prayer that Jesus taught us to pray was, you know, our Father. Right. May your kingdom come. So we fight because we're trying to make Earth more like heaven. And so ultimately, how do you make that happen without providence and without us participating in some grand design from the Lord? So I think the faith element is what keeps me going. It keeps me going in all this. After Charlie, we lost Charlie. So to me, that's. You can't get through that question without that core element. What do you think, Danny?
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Danny (youngest panelist)
Yeah, I think just giving up in general is never the answer. It's cringe, too, for anything.
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Danny
Yeah, it's lame. Quitters are lame.
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Danny (youngest panelist)
Yeah. So why would you ever give up? Why would you ever just stop fighting?
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Blake
What's the point of that?
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Danny (youngest panelist)
Like, if you truly believe in something, you might as well just keep going.
- [59:26]
Danny
Romans 12:12 says, Rejoice in hope. Endure in affliction, persevere in prayer. I'm sure there's probably some modern, casual translation of the Bible that just says, no quitting.
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Blake
The message.
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Danny
Yeah, exactly. Actually, I'm going to look up what the message says.
- [59:42]
Blake
Oh, you should. But I mean, I think that's well said, Danny. Like, quitting is. Is like for losers.
- [59:47]
Danny
Oh, my gosh.
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Blake
Quitting. What does the message say?
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Danny
Don't burn out. Keep yourself fueled and aflame. Be alert, servants of the master, cheerfully expectant. Don't quit in hard times. Pray all the harder. Help needy Christians. Be inventive in hospitality. I think they merged 12 and 13 there because the message gets very blurry with its verses. But nevertheless, even if it's in a bad Bible translation, the Bible is very clear. You endure. And if you think it's tough. If you think it's tough now because we lose legal challenges, we lose elections, we lose economic growth. Remember, there are Christians who lost their lives. They got eaten by lions in the coliseum. They got crucified by Roman officials, by pagans, by Japanese. There have been martyrs all around the world. People have had to suffer far more than any of us, save Charlie, of course, will likely ever suffer for our faiths, for our values.
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Blake
I've got a good verse for this. Since you brought up the bible verse Isaiah 40, 30, 31. I'll read the ESV. Even youths shall faint and be weary, and young men shall fall exhausted. But they who wait for the Lord shall renew their strength. They shall mount up with wings like eagles. They shall run and not be weary. They shall walk and not faint. So the key there is those who wait for the Lord shall renew their strength. And in a lot of ways, this whole season that we're living through on this show, we're living through a tpusa, what we're living through when it comes to Iran, when we're living through the economic promises and all of this affordability stuff that we talk about. What you're living through, Mary, with your lawsuit, with this healthcare. Sometimes you gotta wait on the Lord, and it's the waiting can be the hardest part.
- [61:42]
Danny
That was a great question from Mary. I think we have Christine.
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Danny (youngest panelist)
Next we'll read her question.
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Danny
And we were told she left, but we still want to get to. So Christine's subscriber question. Andrew and Blake, you've said women want the marriage benefits, but not the authority, I assume, of the husband. As a Christian wife, my husband has the final veto on finances, safety, future, and spiritual leadership, and it works great. But as a counselor, I see far too many men who turn submission into domination. What's your personal take on male authority in marriage? Should this start in dating? And how does this help TPUSA students on campus? You've got to take the lead on that one, Andrew.
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Blake
All right, so, yeah, I'm gonna pull up this Bible verse here because it's important. This comes from Ephesians 5. Okay, so let's just read the scripture here, then. Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ. So that's the first point. It's not domination. It's submit to one another. Wives, submit to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head, and the wife, as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now, as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. Here's the key, though, because you could stop there, and it ends in a domination. Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church. And here's the key. And gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife, loves himself. After all, no one ever hated their own body. But they feed and care for their body just as Christ does the church. For we are members of his body. For this reason, a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh. Paul says, this is a profound mystery. So the point here is, yes, there is a divine order of things. There is a way that God set things up, that a wife should come under the headship of her husband. That's what it says in the scripture. You get, don't get mad at me. This is what it says in the Word. But the exchange is a profound mystery because the husband will then sacrifice himself, his own wants, his needs, his desires, to serve his wife, to serve his family, to make his wife radiant and holy and good. That's the key. And when a wife trusts the good intentions, the good faith intentions of her husband, that he is doing everything in his leadership power and his authority power and his headship power to serve his wife, to make her holy and radiant, then a beautiful mystery happens. And the wife will not fight the husband. The husband will not domineer over the wife. They become one. And, and so that's the key there. You, a lot of people take the submit to your husband's line and they subtract the next next portion of that. But it's a great burden upon men. It's a beautiful servant relationship that you serve your wife. And, and I think when you do that, when there's trust, a lot of that animosity goes out the window. Like at my marriage, we don't even think about this stuff. Like, in a conscious level, we understand the principles of scripture and we try and honor that in our marriage, but it's not like we're going around all the time being like, submit to me, woman. I am the head. No, that's not at all how it works. As a matter of fact, my wife has amazing intuition and discernment, and I rely on her to help avoid pitfalls, to avoid mistakes, and I trust her judgment on these things. So it's very much a partnership. I don't know if you guys have any thoughts on this. Maybe, maybe, maybe from the Gen Z dating perspective. Dan?
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Danny
I mean, I don't like.
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Danny (youngest panelist)
You can start.
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Danny
Well, I was saying, I don't, I don't like to, like, do big opinions on this. I'm not married. It's sort of silly for me. You know, some people I know, I have many friends who are married, some friends who are divorced. And that's what happens when you age. You see the which ones make it and which don't. But I think instead what I'd turn to, I think a very good perspective on marriage was actually offered by Erica at Charlie's memorial. She very much wanted to talk about Charlie's attitude towards marriage, that his goal when he wanted to save young people wasn't just a religious revival. He cared a lot about reviving the American family. She said if Charlie had entered politics, his number one priority would be a revival of the family. And so she talks about what an ideal marriage looks like. She used to her own marriage with Charlie as an example. We all saw it. It was a very good marriage. And it did involve that excellent, strong leadership from Charlie. Definitely submission from Erica. But in that positive way that your wife is your helpmate, she is not your slave. I think that is what she said.
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Blake
And we have some CK clips.
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Danny
Excellent. We should play that. I think we'll play that before the segment is out. But that's. It's one of those things where if you're going into it with the right attitude, certainly with an attitude of faith for one, it shouldn't be that difficult because it's almost like you should practically be competing with each other to see who can serve the other one better. Like the wife is really going all out to show how much she can submit, which is how much of a great helpmate she can be to her husband, while the husband is going all out to show what an amazing provider he is for the spouse, an amazing servant leadership. And if they're basically competing with each other on that front, I don't see how the marriage can really go badly. And it's when you start turning marriage into a rivalry, when you start turning it into a power struggle, of course it's going to end up being toxic
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Blake
and distrust is runs amok and so many other bad things. Let's hear Charlie's words on this.
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Charlie Kirk
This is something that I hope will make Taylor Swift more conservative, engage in reality more and get outside of the abstract clouds. Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor, you're not in charge. And most importantly, I can't wait to go to a Taylor Kelsey conference concert. I can't say it without laughing. You got to change your name. If not, you don't really mean it. Congratulations, Taylor.
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Blake
I forgot about that. That went viral.
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Danny
Great. That was so excellent.
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Blake
It was so right on. By the way, you know, speaking of,
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Danny
did you know the guy who plays Jacob from those Twilight movies, Taylor Lautner? He married someone also named Taylor and she did change her last name. So they're both Taylor Lautner. And I guess they're having a baby. And they've hinted they're going to name the baby Taylor as well. So it'll be Taylor Louder and Taylor Lautner with their baby Taylor Louder.
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Blake
That's a terrible idea. Sat 20 more from CK on this.
- [68:45]
Charlie Kirk
Hello, Tik Tok. Today's a very special day. It is our four year anniversary.
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Blake
Four years married to my best friend.
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Charlie Kirk
What's, what's your piece of advice after four years for all the Tik Tok people?
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Blake
Oh, my goodness. Love your husband.
- [68:58]
Charlie Kirk
Well, and get married.
- [69:00]
Blake
Yes.
- [69:00]
Charlie Kirk
Just get off your couch, stop watching all that terrible stuff and go get married. Yes, that's right. And go on that adventure. It's the best thing ever. And go get married. It's amazing.
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Blake
To the right person.
- [69:14]
Charlie Kirk
Happier than ever. God bless you guys.
- [69:17]
Danny
That selfie angle makes it look like Charlie is like three feet taller.
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Blake
He was a giant.
- [69:22]
Danny
He was a tall guy.
- [69:23]
Blake
He was a nephilim.
- [69:24]
Danny
But that's why we have a shag.
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Blake
Like legitimately. One of the things when people come into the studio and they always want to take pictures and stuff like that, I always tell him, you know, this was the cheapest chair option that we presented him because he was such a giant human. So we had this, you know, it was a thousand dollar chair and a $500 chair and all this stuff. He was like, I don't like him. He had back problems. So he was like, I don't like it, I don't like it, I don't like it. So they ended up going with the shack chair. It was like 150 bucks at Target. And he was like, this is the one like made for super sized people. And I think we got it years ago. It's even got like a little piece of the, what do you call it? The vinyl is like has worn off because he used it so much and it just makes me love it all the more. So, yeah, Charlie was a giant person. Every time we. By the, by the way, you, you saw this too. When we take him into public or whatever, we'd be. People meet him for the first time. People like, you're way taller than I expected. Yeah, he was a big guy. Do we have another question? We got three minutes left in this segment.
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Danny
Yeah. All right, let's go to. I think Ian is next. Ian, if you're there, unmute yourself. And what's your question?
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Ian
Hey guys, how you doing?
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Danny
We're Doing great.
- [70:31]
Ian
Hey, I answered my first question with how do we talk about Trump being the peace president? So hopefully they give us something. But I would like to know how can, how can Congress be the only people that can vote on their salary, leave their job and also get paid when the company is shut down? Because that sounds like a fantastic job. And you know, it just seems kind of crazy to me. Why are we allowing this? We're just sitting by and like treating them like celebrities. When is like, what is. Why is this changed like this? When did they stop serving the people?
- [71:06]
Danny
Oh man. If you wanted to get. We could talk for a whole hour about that disaster.
- [71:11]
Blake
Trying to trigger me into another angry rant.
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Danny
One of, you know, a kind of maybe eccentric idea of mine is they're very frustrating. They do like to vote themselves pay raises, although in some ways they don't
- [71:25]
Blake
get paid a ton.
- [71:26]
Danny
One of my. And that's why they're always maneuvering to cash in as lobbyists after they leave office. So many of them are looking to the next thing. I have sometimes wondered, what if we. This would make people mad. What if you did something like you said, actually senators are paid a million dollars a year, but you are like never allowed to work anything government adjacent. As soon as you leave office, like no lobbying nonsense, you're in fact you're banished from the D.C. area. Just you have to. Maybe you can't even. You can, you can never even make more than a million dollars a year once you office.
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Blake
If the government shut down, you don't get paid.
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Danny
And if the government shuts down, you don't get paid. Like you, you attach more strings to it and you have way stricter anti bribery, anti corruption.
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Blake
How about this too? You incentivize them. If they save money. If they balance the budget, they all get another million dollars.
- [72:17]
Danny
Oh, that would be.
- [72:17]
Danny (youngest panelist)
As soon as you did that, we'd have a balanced budget right away.
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Blake
But here's the thing, it has to be strings attached. If you don't keep the government funded, no money, you don't get it back. It's not furloughed. You don't get to make up for that lost money. You're just out money. I actually think this is a great idea. Balance the budget, million dollar bonus for all members of Congress. And I think that was more plausible
- [72:42]
Danny
when the deficit was $300 billion instead of $3 trillion.
- [72:45]
Blake
They'd figure it out. They'd figure it out. A million dollar bonus.
- [72:47]
Danny (youngest panelist)
You want to see getting like they'd be going after him no, listen, 24
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Blake
7, these are some good thoughts here. I will say. To your point though, Senator Kennedy did propose that budget amendment or that amendment on the floor, I think, basically saying, hey, we shouldn't get paid while the government is not fully funded. So he tried and then the Democrats, you know, spiked it. And then the guy, I guess who issued the motion ran out of the chamber because he's a coward. They're all cowards. That's the problem with deliberative bodies. They get to hide behind the rest of the team. Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here. I'd like to tell you about my friends over at Y Refi. You've probably been hearing me talk about why Refi for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments, maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. Why Refi will provide you a custom payment based on your ability to pay. They tailor each loan individually. They can save you thousands of dollars and you can get your life back. We go to campuses all over America and we see student after student who's drowning in private student loan debt. Many of them don't even know how much they owe. Why Refi can help. Just go to yrefi.com that's the letter Y. Then refi.com and remember why Refi doesn't care what your credit score is. Just go to yrefi.com and tell them your friend Andrew sent you. We have Mick, who's up next? Mick, unmute yourself. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show.
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Mick
Hey, thanks guys. Sorry I couldn't talk last week. I would have sounded like a refusing Emperor Palpatine. And I hate to saber rattle here, but everyone I talk to, my age and I'm 22 years old, they just do not care about Iran one way or another. I mean, you could go in with a camera and say, all right guys, here's the nukes. They're building them and they still wouldn't care. They'd be like, what are we doing at home? And so could we name some of the names? Some of those warmongers that are in the cabinet, in the administration? I'm not sure if there's any in the cabinet, but I want to start a public pressure campaign so those individuals names are out there and just we got to get this wrapped up.
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Blake
Yeah, I totally agree. I mean, listen, you're singing from the same song sheet here.
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Danny (youngest panelist)
That's the same thing. I'm 23, so I'm basically the same age. And that's the exact same thing I'm hearing. Well, not that they don't care. They actually do care a lot. And that they don't want us involved. They don't care about being pro war. They care a lot that we shouldn't be there. We need to get out. And they're really turning on Trump.
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Blake
Yeah. Let's just be fair to Trump here though, right? President Trump has been very consistent on Iran throughout the years, that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. So it's one of those things. I mean, even Charlie went around in 2024 and described President Trump as the peace president. No new wars, first president, not to get us into another foreign conflict. You know, for whatever reason, President Trump looked at the math, looked at the intel and decided this was the time to strike. You can disagree with it, but the truth is he has been consistent about Iran throughout the years. This is the biggest test. So who are those figures? You want us to name names? I mean, some of the notable ones would be like, Mike Waltz. It would be CIA Director John Radcliffe has said that the intel was there. You know, some people point to Pete Hegseth. I don't know that that's fair. Pete's a good soldier. The President has made the decision to go in, so Pete's going to do it the best he can. A lot of finger pointing has gone to Bibi Netanyahu, who's not in the administration. Obviously he's prime minister of Israel. He's wanted to take out the Iranian threat in that region. So we got to just sort of be honest that I'm not a believer in that. President Trump didn't have his own agency here. He had his own agency. He wanted to take this shot. He thought it was the right time. I think what we saw in Venezuela probably made a lot of the warmongers within the military industrial complex and the intel community whatever, sort of say, hey, we can do this and it can be really seamless and really clean. I hope that ultimately proves to be right. And I'll say what I've said before, that this could ultimately be the right foreign policy decision, national security decision, and it could be politically unpopular. And that's a trade off that a lot of us are very uncomfortable with. But that's where we are.
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Danny (youngest panelist)
And what every, like, young person that I've talked to, Gen Z is, they all like, thought Venezuela was awesome. They were like, they were so behind it, even though it was like still a military.
- [77:36]
Mick
100%.
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Danny (youngest panelist)
Yeah. And that was more so because it was like a quick in and out thing. Nobody died. But they're on this new thing where, like we saw this yesterday when we were talking to him where that if a single American dies in a conflict, they immediately go off, that we should have never been in there in the first place. And so they're kind of tying American deaths to whether or not. Talking about Gen Z. Yeah, Gen Z. Of whether or not we should be going to war. And so they're very against the Iran war right now. And one of the main things is because they're mentioning that we've lost 13 soldiers. And so that's why Venezuela was great because we didn't lose any. So it's kind of a weird path that they're going down because you can't really have a country if you're not going to lose some soldiers.
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Blake
At some point you wouldn't have.
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Danny (youngest panelist)
It's not reasonable. You would never have a country. So there's a little bit of fine lining here where they're kind of just dooming to doom on some stuff.
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Blake
Yeah, they just. There is some kvetching just to kvetch. Right. As I would say. But I would say the Venezuela strike was different as well because we have something called the Monroe Doctrine. Right. Where it's hemispheric dominance. I think a lot of, you know, even people that are uncomfortable with this concept of American empire can get behind the fact that we're the big dog in the Western hemisphere and everybody needs to kind of like get in line. I love that, to be honest. I'm super into it. And you've blown up drug boats. That was kind of rad too, because these guys are bringing in poison to kill Americans and feed this black market of drugs and fentanyl and cocaine. Blow up the drug boats. Okay, fine. Middle east, man. We've just got a lot of scar tissue there. And it's a way tougher sell. And by the way, Iran is a huge country.
- [79:13]
Anthony
Huge.
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Blake
And it's got a lot of different factions and a lot of different things going on there. A lot of history, proud people. I just hope that the people rise up. And I think President Trump's right. If they do it now, they're gonna get mowed down. But I do hope that that does end up happening. They take their country back. Blake, do you have any thoughts?
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Danny
I mean.
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Blake
No. No is fine. Who's next?
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Danny (youngest panelist)
Yeah, we have Anthony.
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Blake
Anthony, welcome to the show.
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Anthony
Hi, guys.
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Blake
Hey, what's back?
- [79:44]
Anthony
Just got off a meeting. That's why I emailed you guys my question earlier because I didn't know if I was gonna get on.
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Blake
Well, what's your question?
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Ian
Yeah, good to have you my question.
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Anthony
Let me hold my email real quick. So I remember as I sent it to you guys. So basically it's regarding how Democrats want to control things by putting, you know, putting bills on the floor in federal government and in certain states to control limit of movements, what you can do with what you can install in buildings and houses. And the reason I asked this is because now we're seeing. I think it's in Massachusetts. I said this thing called the MOVE act that will limit how much you can drive a day, a week, a month, a year. Is there any way to stop this or kind of put the brakes on it because. And I know it's at the state level, but is there a federal thing that can be done through epa, Zeldin's department, because you're limiting the motion of freedom?
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Blake
Sounds unconstitutional, actually, but I don't know. Blake, do you have any.
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Danny
I mean, I. I don't know the specifics of this law in general.
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Anthony
We just saw it pop up this week all over social media.
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Danny
Yeah, in general, we do. Yeah. Like, Massachusetts moves to limit miles people can drive because of climate change. But I don't know if. Is that like a strict rule or is it more of some. They're.
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Anthony
They're trying to pass it as a bill. And the only reason I asked this is because we all know, like, when California usually does something, the next blue state will do it. Like Illinois, New York, New Jersey and so on. Like, this is kind of like you're stopping freedom here.
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Danny
It sounds, I'm looking at it now. It looks like it sets statewide goals, which. Yeah, it's. The left is very good at taking vague goals and then suddenly they somehow have legal force. They're good at a thing that is difficult with the left. The left is generally better at decentralized action in the sense they really are. Almost like the Borg or the hive mind. Like memetic stuff gets out where they're suddenly all on the same page and they all get aligned and they don't necessarily even need to communicate with each other. And so all of their judges are suddenly with the program, whether it's on open borders or on global warming or on race communism or mal reform. And ideally, we could take steps to stop it. But on the other hand, one of the best things that does protect us when the left inevitably has more power in this country is we do have a federalist system that allows red states to push back against this as well. So to some extent, that's the it's the double side of the coin in terms of blue states being able to, you know, destroy themselves.
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Blake
Yeah. I mean, listen, I think this sounds really unpopular. It reminds me of that you'll own nothing and you'll be happy. Instead of fixing underlying problems, they just want to limit freedom, limit access, limit the size of your house, limit all these kind of things. I think it's going to be wildly unpopular. But, Anthony, thank you for your question. We will see you guys.
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Anthony
Thanks, guys.
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Blake
Have a great weekend.
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Danny
For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.
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Blake
Com.