Can Zohran Mamdani Be Stopped?

Summary

---

The Charlie Kirk Show

Episode: Can Zohran Mamdani Be Stopped?
Date: November 3, 2025
Host: Charlie Kirk
Co-hosts/Guests: Andrew Colvitt (Executive Producer), Jack Posobiec, with appearances from Blake and Lane Schoenberger

---

Episode Overview

This episode explores the shifting political landscape in America, focusing specifically on the upcoming New York City mayoral race and the rising influence of Zohran Mamdani. The discussion centers on whether Mamdani, labeled by hosts as a "communist" candidate, can be stopped, the implications for American culture and governance, and broader trends in states like New Jersey and Pennsylvania. There's also in-depth commentary on US immigration, the Venezuela situation, and the political fallout from demographic changes in major American cities.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Challenge of Zohran Mamdani in New York (11:52–16:15; 29:11–33:53)

• Trump's Take on Mamdani: The show plays a clip of Donald Trump expressing reluctance to support New York if Mamdani wins, labeling him a "communist," and openly preferring a “bad Democrat” over what he sees as a radical leftist.
  • Quote (Trump, 12:00): “If it's going to be between a bad Democrat and a Communist, I'm gonna pick the bad Democrat all the time, to be honest with you.”
• Split Conservative/Democratic Vote:
  • The hosts discuss the impact of multiple candidates (Cuomo, Sliwa) splitting the opposition to Mamdani, lamenting that consolidation might have changed the outcome.
  • Recent polling shows Mamdani’s lead tightening, but still likely too large to overcome without unity (15:25).
• Demographic Shift & 'Old vs New' New York:
  • Theme of cultural and demographic transformation in the city.
  • Statistic noted: "62% of his support comes from foreign born" (Andrew Colvitt, 14:27).
  • Quote (Jack Posobiec, 14:39): “If you import the third world, you will get a guy coming in like… [Mamdani] that eats rice with his hands.”
  • The rhetoric is highly critical of Mamdani, referencing his online statements and cultural background.
• Hosts' Core Concerns:
  • Fear that Mamdani’s policies target affluent, white, Christian, or male populations for redistributive justice.
  • Accusation of grievance politics and scapegoating the “old” New Yorkers.
  • Quote (Jack Posobiec, 33:01): “He is going to basically declare open season on you... His voting base are the 'gimme grants.'”
  • Framing this as a harbinger of what could happen in other parts of the country if similar coalitions take power.

2. Political Battlegrounds: New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Nationwide Trends (07:28–10:29)

• Turning Point Action's Ground Game:
  • Jack Posobiec recounts canvassing in New Jersey and the significant turnout among the Orthodox Jewish community in Lakewood.
  • The unusual closeness of New Jersey races is highlighted as a potential bellwether moment, especially with high Republican engagement during typically non-competitive races.
  • Polls show very tight margins, with the Jewish vote characterized as pivotal.
• Pennsylvania Judicial Retention Vote:
  • Emphasis on Trump’s call to vote ‘no’ on retaining what the hosts label as “radical Democrat Supreme Court justices.”
  • Framed as a major battle against left-leaning judicial activism and the legacy of COVID policies.

3. US Policy on Venezuela & Immigration (17:29–25:39)

• Trump's 60 Minutes Interview (18:13–19:14):
  • Suggests Maduro's days as Venezuela’s president are numbered, but hedges on any military intervention.
  • Quote (Trump, 18:49): “I doubt it. I don't think so, but they've been treating us very badly, not only on drugs, they've dumped hundreds of thousands of people into our country that we didn't want.”
• Naval Buildup in Caribbean:
  • Jack Posobiec details the US deployment near Venezuela, points to ongoing operations targeting narco traffickers, and speculates on the effectiveness of regime change policies.
  • Concern that ousting Maduro could create power vacuums, possibly benefiting criminal organizations like Tren de Aragua.
• Alleged US Funding of Venezuelan Migration:
  • Jack cites reporting that US taxpayer dollars, via USAID, have funded Colombian media campaigns promoting migration to the US.
  • Critique of DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, with calls for legal accountability over the “invasion” at the southern border.

4. Shutdown Politics & Immigration Incentives (25:52–32:25)

• Government Shutdown Update:
  • Trump blames Democrats for ongoing funding standoff, characterizing Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer as a “kamikaze pilot.”
    • Quote (Trump, 26:18): “Schumer is a basket case and he has nothing to lose. He's become... a kamikaze pilot.”
  • Hosts speculate AOC could easily unseat Schumer due to his weakness and capitulation to the party’s left wing.
• Elon Musk on Joe Rogan: The Immigration 'Magnet'
  • Musk argues that financial incentives draw illegal immigrants to the US, and that Democrats "will lose a lot of voters" without such policies (31:19–31:48).
    • Quote (Musk, 31:19): "If the hundreds of billions of dollars to create a financial incentive to... attract illegals from every part of earth... is turned off, the illegals will leave... And then they will lose a lot of voters."
  • Hosts agree, suggesting most Americans don’t grasp this dynamic.
  • Quote (Andrew Colvitt, 32:25): “If there’s a silver lining at all to New York City falling to this foreign born communist…”

5. Rhetoric, Media, and Political Climate (29:11–29:35)

• Trump on Dehumanization of Conservatives:
  • Complaints about being called a Nazi and the role of “fake news.”
    • Quote (Trump, 29:11): “They call me a Nazi all the time. I'm not a Nazi. I'm the opposite. I'm somebody that's saving our country. But they call me Nazi. And the press is largely responsible for it… one of the greatest terms I've ever come up with is fake news.”
  • Hosts echo these sentiments, alleging routine use of dehumanizing language against conservatives by mainstream media.

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |-----------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------| | 12:00 | "If it's going to be between a bad Democrat and a Communist, I'm gonna pick the bad Democrat." | Donald Trump | | 14:39 | "If you import the third world, you will get a guy coming in like… eats rice with his hands." | Jack Posobiec | | 26:18 | “Schumer is a basket case and he has nothing to lose. He's become... a kamikaze pilot.” | Donald Trump | | 29:11 | "They call me a Nazi all the time. I'm not a Nazi. I'm the opposite... The press is... responsible." | Donald Trump | | 31:19 | “If... financial incentive to... attract illegals... is turned off, the illegals will leave... And then they will lose a lot of voters.” | Elon Musk | | 33:01 | "He is going to basically declare open season on you. His voting base are the 'gimme grants.'" | Jack Posobiec |

---

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [11:52–16:15] — Trump on Mamdani & NYC’s political divide
• [07:28–10:29] — New Jersey election dynamics, Orthodox Jewish vote
• [17:29–25:39] — Venezuela developments: Trump’s views, US policy, regime change debate
• [26:10–27:45] — Trump on the government shutdown & Schumer’s position
• [29:11–29:35] — Trump on media's dehumanization of conservatives
• [31:19–32:25] — Elon Musk on incentives for illegal immigration
• [32:25–33:43] — The hosts’ take on demographic change, political strategy, and threat of grievance politics

---

Tone and Style

The conversation is unapologetically conservative, combative in tone, and informal—with sports analogies, joking, and rhetorical flourishes. Hosts and guests are vocal in their critiques of progressive politics, immigration policies, and both mainstream and left-leaning media.

---

Summary for New Listeners

• The episode portrays the New York mayoral race as existential for the city’s—and by extension, America’s—values.
• The hosts see demographic and ideological shifts as eroding traditional American identity, warning that Mamdani’s possible victory could accelerate this trend.
• Nationwide elections and judicial votes are viewed as battles against a "radical" left, with on-the-ground organizing highlighted as a counter-strategy.
• Immigration, both legal and illegal, is discussed as a driving force behind political realignment and policy conflicts.
• Trump’s interviews are used to punctuate main arguments, while Elon Musk’s remarks serve as validation from a non-politician.
• There is a recurrent theme of being embattled conservatives fighting a last-stand effort to preserve what they see as core American culture.

---

Transcript

[Charlie Kirk]

My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You gotta stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Turning Point USA College chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA High School chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life. And I encourage you to do the same. Here I am, Lord.

[Jack Posobiec]

Use me.

[Charlie Kirk]

Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. The Charlie Kirk show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold. But the leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends and viewers.

[Andrew Colvitt]

All right. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's Monday. I'm Andrew Colvitt, executive producer of this fine show. I'm joined in studio today not by Blake Neff, no, by the one, the only, Jack Posobic.

[Jack Posobiec]

Jack Posobic, the mayor of Halloweentown is here in studio. It's election week and so of course there's no place I'd rather be than right here in the Charlie Kirk.

[Andrew Colvitt]

We are going to be streaming. We are going to be covering the elections and by the way, folks, I'm just going to brass tax it for you. We're hopefully going to get some input from Tyler Boyer from Turning Point Action, but we need more. We need more. The trend is not our friend. We're going to need. We're going to need Jack, you know, we're going to need in a lot of these races, we're going to need a top of the ninth one out home run from.

[Jack Posobiec]

Are you referencing anything right now?

[Andrew Colvitt]

We're going to need a miracle kind of reference save or maybe an 11 thing from the Canucks. Well, yeah, well, there was. There was a couple miracles that happened. I mean, Andrew's.

[Jack Posobiec]

Andrew's a big Dodgers fan, folks, and this was a big weekend for him. A big weekend for America.

[Andrew Colvitt]

They call it paycheck, baseball. I call it having more heart than the other guys. Knowing how to win. Knowing how to win.

[Jack Posobiec]

A little bit of this for the win.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Little bit of this helps sometimes, I'm not gonna lie. Especially baseball. But, you know, we just have to celebrate it. I mean, listen, I said in honor of Charlie. He was a big Cubs fan. That if the Cubs were. If the Cubs had advanced to the nlcs, I would have pulled for the Cubbies. I really would have. But unfortunately, they. They lost to the Brewers. The Milwaukee Brewers. And. And then it was, you know, the Dodgers end up sweeping the brewers, and then it was America versus Canada. This is the only. Anybody needs to look at this through. And, yeah, it was Halloween this weekend. There's a lot of news. There's a lot of things we're going to get to, but we have to start.

[Jack Posobiec]

Don't forget the hat that Blake Trainan was wearing.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah. Blake Trinen. He's a great American, good Christian man. And he wore the Charlie Kirk hat. And guess what? He actually threw that to Rob McCoy, I guess, at some game.

[Jack Posobiec]

Are you serious?

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah, he threw his hat that he was wearing.

[Jack Posobiec]

So this was the guy. He wore the hat that had Charlie Kirk on it. After Charlie. After Charlie was murdered, he wore the hat. And. And by the way, was criticized for that.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Of course he was.

[Jack Posobiec]

He was. He was criticized. Took a lot of crap for it and then goes on to win the World Series. Just saying.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Just saying.

[Jack Posobiec]

Just saying.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Let's go ahead and play. Cut. I just have to do this. Cut. 82. This glorious moment. 82.

[Jack Posobiec]

Here's the O2 pitch.

[Charlie Kirk]

Bounces one up the middle, bets to the back. Over to first.

[Jack Posobiec]

To beat the champ, you got to knock him out.

[Charlie Kirk]

The Dodgers stand tall and win back to back titles.

[Andrew Colvitt]

So our audience is probably currently revolting against me, but that's okay. Hey, by the way, the Americans won.

[Jack Posobiec]

I called Andrew like five minutes after that just to kind of check in with him, and I'm not even sure what if exactly what came out of his mouth was. Was, like, words. It was more just emotions.

[Andrew Colvitt]

It was like, I let my kids watch. My children.

[Jack Posobiec]

My children.

[Andrew Colvitt]

The kids are freaking out. Like, we were having a great time, honestly, thinking about my grandfather. Anybody that's tempted to root against the Dodgers, I want you to remember that you're rooting for Canada. Okay? That's all I want to say.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wow.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

So a trader, basically.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah, basically. Basically to America, right? Ryan's got other thoughts. One of our. Our team members. It's fine. All right.

[Jack Posobiec]

I was like, the Dodgers beat my Phillies. And. And I said, what did I say to you? I said, they're going to go all the way, and I'm going to root for them because there's no shame in being beaten by the best.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yep, they are. And by the way, they're already like favored for next year. I understand if you're not. There's Blake Trine and Satan. Charlie Kirk. I understand if you resent the Dodgers because they do have more. I mean, listen, they revenued over a billion dollars this year. So like the, you know, and Charlie was a big fan of the salary cap. Listen, if that happens, obviously it's going to change the calculus of how the Dodgers do things. But I mean they've got like a top rated farm system still. Even after trading away a lot of their best people, you know, to acquire some of the top end talent, they still have the best farm system and they still have the best international development system, the scouting system. So it's like, listen, you know, it's the Matthew Principle. Those who have will have more. Those who have little, even the little they have will be taken. That's honestly, that's some of sometimes the way things work. It's a dynasty, folks. I'm gonna celebrate it. Anyways. So Jack, over the weekend there was two big interviews that happened. Plus we've got New Jersey, we've got Virginia, we've got PA. There's big races in PA. Voting no in Pennsylvania.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, no, no.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Three judges, three radical communist judges get a 10 year term.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's a 10 year term but there's automatic what we call retention races. So you have, they have to go up for retention every 10 years to say will you be retained or not? And so 10 years, what we're hoping is that people will say no, no, no. And President Trump, huge true social yesterday all about this.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yep, yep. And so yeah, to, to that point, let's see here. He said attention Pennsylvania. I'll try and get this in the chat so we have a visual of it. Attention Pennsylvania. On November 4th you can bring back the rule of law and stand up for the Constitution. There are three radical Democrat Supreme Court justices on the ballot for a 10 year retention vote. No, no, no. On liberal justices Donahue, Dougherty and Wecht. Wetched Wecht wecked these activist judges unlawfully gerrymandered your congressional maps which led to my corrupt impeachments and locked you up during COVID by closing your small businesses, schools and churches. They let sex offenders out of prison and ruled for sleepy Joe Biden over and over and interfered in the 2020 election. It is time for justice vote no no, no. And retention of these woke judges. I couldn't agree more. I just wanted to bring that up because we haven't talked about it a ton. The Pennsylvania Supreme Court justices but Jack, you were in New Jersey this weekend campaigning for Chittarelli. Tell us about that. We got some interesting.

[Jack Posobiec]

We were there yesterday with the great Turning Point Action team. First time ever Turning Point Action deployment to New Jersey. And people have to understand, right? So just, just to put the context on all of this, these are not supposed to be competitive races. The off year gubernatorial elections in Virginia and New Jersey the same year, after one party wins the White House, the Senate and the Congress are supposed to always go to the other party. That is always the trend. These are not supposed to be competitive elections. These are supposed to be. So if a Republican wins the White House, it's supposed to be a shoo in for the Democrats in the next year. Because this is a bellwether. It's usually seen as the first check against an admin in power. But by the way, after Obama, this is how we got Christie in New Jersey back in 2009. So that was that dynamic playing out. And so what we're seeing here now in New Jersey is a potential attempt to buck that trend. And that's why Turning Point Action is going in. In New Jersey we're seeing these races. Atlas intel came in late in the week last week. This was the number one pollster a and said it's a one point race. And so we had Turning Point action in there. And by the way, the Orthodox Jewish community of Lakewood, New Jersey came out in absolute droves. Now yesterday was the last day of early voting in New Jersey. However, the Orthodox Jewish community wasn't voting on Saturday because of Shabbos. So what did they do? They slammed and barnstormed. What you're looking at right now and for folks who are listening, there is a drone shot needed a drone shot to be able to cover the, the lines in Lakewood, New Jersey because so many people were out there voting and then because it was on the same day they were leaving Lakewood at the polls and then coming over to the Turning Point Action rally where we had, we had food and we had. And yes, I did, I did bring Wawa for everyone there. Everyone there.

[Andrew Colvitt]

How close is this to New York City? That image you were looking at, how. Lakewood.

[Blake]

Lakewood.

[Jack Posobiec]

I mean, about an hour drive.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Oh, it's an hour drive. Okay. So the Orthodox community is still that large in that part of the, in that part of the state. I just don't know Jersey that well, candidly.

[Jack Posobiec]

I mean, New Jersey's not that big to begin with.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Well, totally. Anyway, so that's huge. Good for the Orthodox Jewish community. Coming out, I saw Scott Pressler was out there registering voters, getting them out. The poll presser.

[Jack Posobiec]

We had Cliff Maloney, we had the early vote action. We had the NJ chase. So the PA Chase has now become the njhs. They're out there, they're knocking on doors and turning point action. The incredible team Noah from Micah, Brandon Malley and a whole bunch of actually new hires and new acquirers. The Northeastern pen or the Northeastern nucleus. So it's Pennsylvania, New Jersey up is really exploding and expanding for turning point action.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah, we. And by the way, I think this Zoron backlash too in New York because you're so close to it, plays into it. By the way, that race is tightening and we should talk about that as well. But the. Yeah, Zoran is losing a little bit of his luster still. Probably too far ahead to pull it off. But we can hope. Listen, we can hope.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's an interesting time for business. Tariff and trade policies are dynamic. Supply chains are squeezed in cash flow tighter than ever. If your business can't adapt in real time, you're in a world of hurt.

[Blake]

Hey, it's Blake from the Charlie Kirk Show. You just heard Charlie talking about the global business environment. Nothing's changed since then and so I'm here to tell you about netsuite by Oracle. If you have a business and you need total visibility from global shipments to tariff impacts to real time cash flow, you need NetSuite by Oracle, your AI powered business management suite. Trusted by more than 41,000 businesses. NetSuite is the number one cloud ERP for many reasons. It brings accounting, financial management, inventory, HR all into one suite. You have one source of truth giving you the visibility and control you need to make quick business decisions. With real time forecasting, you're peering into the future with with actionable data and with AI embedded throughout, you can automate a lot of these everyday tasks, letting your teams stay strategic. NetSuite helps you know what's stuck, what it's costing you and how to pivot fast. It's one system with full control. Tame the chaos with NetSuite. If your revenues are at least in the seven figures. Download the free ebook Navigating Global Trade 3 Insights for Leaders at NetSuite.com Kirk that's NetSuite.com Kirk.

[Andrew Colvitt]

We are going to keep the news coming. Let's go ahead and play Cup 44. This is Trump on Mamdani or Cuomo.

[Norah O'Donnell]

What if Mandami becomes mayor?

[Donald Trump]

It's going to be hard for me as the President to give a lot of money to New York because if you have a Communist running New York, all you're doing is wasting the money you're sending there. So I don't know that he's won. And I'm not a fan of Cuomo one way or the other, but if it's going to be between a bad Democrat and a Communist, I'm gonna pick the bad Democrat all the time, to be honest with you.

[Andrew Colvitt]

So, Jack, there's been a debate about what to do for Sliwa voters in New York City. Cernovich, who's a friend of ours, is very, very adamant that it should not be Sliwa's job to drop out of the race on Cuomo's behalf for the, you know, for Team Sanity's behalf. What's your take on that?

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, I get where Mike's coming from in the sense that it's Democrats that ran New York into the ground. Right. Giuliani was a great Republican. Bloomberg came in initially as a Republican, then as an Independent, and then de Blasio comes in and you've had this slew of Democrats and then Adams, and now we'll see what we get. Probably a communist coming up here tomorrow. So the fact that why should Republicans get the blame for Democrats running America's greatest city into the ground, I totally get that. From a political standpoint, though, I can also see the other side of the argument saying that, look, the entire city has been terraformed by demographics. And for all the people who say, oh, nine, 11, never, you know, never forget what happened and never forget the people that are voting for Zora momdani either. Number one, weren't Americans on 9, 11. Zora Momdani wasn't even an American citizen when Donald Trump was first elected to office.

[Andrew Colvitt]

They don't have anything to remember in the first.

[Jack Posobiec]

There's nothing to remember. Or they're so young that it's like something they saw on YouTube, but they don't really have any direct memory of what it was like. So what you've really got going on now is this sort of dichotomy between the new New Yorkers and the old New Yorkers. And Donald Trump is an old New Yorker. He remembers the Cuomo family when it was Mario Cuomo, when New York was the kind that had Mario Cuomo was in office right as governor and Curtis Lewa was out there with doing what? Keeping the subways safe. And this was the era of Bernie Goetz. This was the era when crime and murder was so bad. This is the pre Giuliani era. That's what the guardian angels were all about. And that's what Curtis was all about. So Mamdani comes in and this is an entirely new version of New York that's trying to fight old New York.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Check out throw up image 96. This is foreign born population. So the 62% there you go. Of his support comes from foreign born.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's as simple as that. If you import the third world, you will get a guy coming in like.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Zoramundani that eats rice with his hands.

[Jack Posobiec]

Eats rice with his hands, eats disgusting slop with his hands. And by the way, turns around and you can go on his Twitter account and find all of his anti white tweets. And I don't mean from like years and years ago. I mean like from months ago.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Months. This guy hates America. He hates what he thinks is European capitalist, you know, white culture. He wants to, I mean, he guilt tripped Cuomo for not visiting a mosque, for not being able to name one. I mean, that shouldn't be happening in America. You shouldn't have to sort of go pander to the Muslim minority of your city. I mean, what are the 6, 700,000 Muslims now in New York City? This is like.

[Jack Posobiec]

And now it's part of like the voting base of the city.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah, totally throw up. Image 95. This is real clear politics. This is a polling average has Mamdani up 14.7. However, you mentioned Atlas Intel. I wanted to throw this up. So this is a poll from the last five days of October. So it's pretty recent. It has a very, very tight race. And what's frustrating is that we've seen in the polling where if Cuomo and Sliwa would have consolidated their support, they would have beat him. And then it, he, then it looked like Mamdani was just so far ahead, they couldn't even beat him. Well, this one shows that Cuomo is at 34%. He's only, he's only seven points behind Mamdani already. And Slee was at 24. If they combined, they would absolutely beat him.

[Charlie Kirk]

If you're tired of watching this country drift away from the values that made it great, it's time to get involved. That's why I stand with amec, the association of Mature American Citizens.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Charlie loved this country and he loved partnering with organizations that truly stand for what makes America great. One of our most trusted partners, amac, the association of Mature American Citizens, is doing something special in Charlie's honor. AMAC is offering free, free memberships to all ages. No credit card no strings attached. Just a chance to stand for faith, family and freedom. Join this movement. Go to AMAC US Charlie today. That is AMAC US forward slash Charlie today. All right, so I want to get to this Trump 60 Minutes interview. I personally feel like it's not getting enough play online and there was some really important pieces of information that were shared on the, on this interview with Norah o', Donnell, really a really interesting gal. So here's the deal. So you want to get into this Venezuela stuff. You're hot on this Venezuela story because it does seem this could be big. Little bit of context, Little bit of context here. You know, there's the. Marco Rubio came out and said we are not invading Venezuela. It was fake news. It was a Miami Herald article that basically said that we were preparing to invade Venezuela. There is a warship just off the coast of Venezuela.

[Jack Posobiec]

Obviously there's a whole naval flotilla.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Flotilla. So there's obviously been multiple strikes on these drug boats that apparently have narco traffickers on board.

[Jack Posobiec]

Which are amazing.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah, which are amazing. I totally support it, by the way. We should have been doing it years ago. But most people don't because they have no courage.

[Jack Posobiec]

And some of which, by the way, are semi sub. They're like submarines basically.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Really?

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, they're like, oh, and they'll say it's just a fishing boat. No, it's a submarine. They use these semi submersible to try to evade.

[Andrew Colvitt]

So Norah o' Donnell asked two interesting questions. One would lead you to think that we are going to war or something. And then the next he kind of brings it back to, no, we're not. So let's discuss this. Let's play Cup 43 first.

[Norah O'Donnell]

Are Maduro's days as president numbered?

[Donald Trump]

I would say, yeah, I think so. Yeah.

[Norah O'Donnell]

And this issue of potential land strikes in Venezuela, is that true?

[Donald Trump]

I don't tell you that. I mean, I'm not saying it's true or untrue, but I, you know, I wouldn't. Why would I be inclined to say that I would do that, but. Because I don't talk to a reporter about whether or not I'm going to strike.

[Andrew Colvitt]

I love that he does that, by the way. He always says, we'll see what happens. He's not going to show his cards to some reporter on 60 Minutes. You can ask 15 times if you want to. He's not going to do it. But then she straight up asks, are we going to war against Venezuela? Play cut 45.

[Norah O'Donnell]

Are we going to war against Venezuela?

[Donald Trump]

I doubt it. I don't think so, but they've been treating us very badly, not only on drugs, they've dumped hundreds of thousands of people into our country that we didn't want. People from prisons. They emptied their prisons into our company country. They also, if you take a look, they emptied their mental institutions and their insane asylum into the United States of America because Joe Biden was the worst president in the history of our country.

[Andrew Colvitt]

All right, so Jack, this is a big issue that you've been focusing on. So why, why does it feel like he's, he's kind of saying both things here?

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, so, I mean, look, when you look at the naval force that we've assembled in the Caribbean, this is quite substantial. And there was an, basically this operational area declared around Puerto Rico, so military exclusion zone for military operations that was declared, saying that, hey, there's a potentiality for operations here that could be coming up. And you've got, you've got an entire, again, this naval flotilla that's there, multiple destroyers, you've got an amphibious assault craft. So you've got. Which has an entire marine expeditionary unit on it. Not big enough to, you know, launch an invasion or something like that, but, you know, sizable, sizable complement of marines as, as well as drones as fighters and the potential for U. S Special forces. There's been this story running around that the U. S. Has signed off on covert operations within Venezuela. Hopefully those are targeting the cartel leaders, which we love. I'd love to see those in Mexico as well, by the way. And, and coast guard fast attack ships all throughout the area. So, so does this mean then that. That there's going to be, you know, people are saying that, look, we've seen a lot of. And you get a lot of this in Florida, right? There's a lot of people who have come from Venezuela, come from Cuba, they've gone to Florida.

[Andrew Colvitt]

So many.

[Jack Posobiec]

And, and this is a huge issue down there. So for the rest of the country, are thinking like, why is all of a sudden this, this pops up. But you go down to these pockets of Florida and they will. And hundreds of thousands of people, by the way, and they really, really want to get rid of Maduro, really want to, really want to get rid of the regime in Havana. And so that is something that, you know, obviously it comes up a lot during election time. It comes up a lot during these election years where they say, hey, we've got. When Castro was around, right? You know, we got to get rid of Castro, etc. Etc. And then the US tried with obviously no negative effect, shall we say. Here's an interesting piece of this, though. So Maduro and Sager and Jetty has come out and he and Charlie were good friends and he's been doing a lot of reporting on this. And a piece that came out on his Twitter that he put up and because Trump had said something about, oh, well, you know, Venezuela is invading the United States. And they certainly were during, under the Obama administration. And that's absolutely something that was going on. However, here's what Sager pointed out, a side story that I found in my reporting. Maduro has been irked to interlocutors of these diplomats that claim that he invades of the United States, telling America you funded your own invasion. And he points out that it turns out that the US Government actually did fund a large ad campaign for Venezuelan migrants in 2023 to a large Colombian newspaper.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Well, and people have to appreciate there is, you know, the diaspora of Venezuelans in the last couple of decades. Colombia is full of them.

[Jack Posobiec]

Right, exactly.

[Andrew Colvitt]

So by advertising in Colombia, you're advertising to Venezuelans, like Venezuelans, if you're a refugee in Colombia, if you will come to America.

[Jack Posobiec]

And we saw all this going on during the, the Biden years. These were the, these were the, the caravans that were coming up through Mexico. This was all. And we kept asking, where's the money for all this coming from? Well, it turns out it was coming from the US taxpayers that USAID. USAID had a contract beginning in September 2023 and ending in July 2024 with Colombian newspaper El Pais, whose purpose was to, quote, disseminate a new narrative about the Venezuelan migrant population. The grant required the paper to document and make visible success stories of migrants accessing the formal market using formats and media regularly consulted by business groups. So basically, we paid for advertising.

[Andrew Colvitt]

We.

[Jack Posobiec]

When I say we, I mean the Biden administration and Mayorkas, by the way, who. And Blake had that great tweet about him. He said, this guy, you know, I'm not sure if we can bring him up on criminal charges, but he's a traitor. Just someone who totally facilitated the whole scale invasion of the United States. And they use taxpayer money. They ran it through usaid, and yes, they were telling Venezuelans come to the United States. So Maduro's got an interesting point here where he says, wait a minute, your government told them to come?

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah, no, it's an interesting point. And, but I do think it's interesting, by the way, just to put a pin on, like a wrap a bow around what you're saying, I mean, Mayorkas 100% a traitor. The fact that there's not a law that we can lock him up on or may not be a law, we'll see. I think it's worth exploring the extent of which the law is capable of putting him in prison. The fact that there's not, though, is really highly concerning. And there should be one because the guy facilitated probably on behest of the Biden administration. Who knows if it was even Joe Biden, by the way. It was probably just some of the woke staffers that he surrounded himself with. But yeah, he facilitated the large scale invasion of the United States. Now, there's a lot of really good Venezuelan people and there's a lot of thugs. I mean, there's a ton, a ton of gang activity. When a country falls into disrepair, like Venezuela has fallen, the whole country becomes corrupt and dangerous and violent and it ends up being run by essentially warlords.

[Jack Posobiec]

And this is where Trend Aragua came from, of course.

[Andrew Colvitt]

But what's interesting is that Trump also says he thinks his days are number Maduro's. So the question you might then have is, well, if we're not going to invade, how do you get rid of Maduro? Well, there's a lot of reporting that would suggest that Maduro is willing to take any sort of deal to sort of flee into exile, if you will. He might take money, he might take assurances of his own safety. The guy just might be tapping out. I mean, if you ratchet up the pressure and you put this whole flotilla off his coast and you start, you know, tightening the screws, you can get a guy like Maduro out if you want. I'm not saying we should, but I'm just saying it's very interesting that President Trump is saying, I don't think we're gonna be invading.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, let me, let me play devil's advocate then because, you know, we've seen situations like this as well where we played the regime change game. And you know, you talk about Iraq, you talk about even Vietnam in the past where we tried to do this. Libya, Libya, you'd go down the list, Syria, etc. And so if Maduro leaves, who's then going to stop Trend Aragua from just taking over the entire country?

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah, I mean, I guess the hope would be that the opposition candidate that just got the Nobel Peace Prize would be the one. But, you know, who knows, Jack? Who knows? I am basically, I am anti regime change. You push one of these things, it's.

[Jack Posobiec]

Going to be great. It's going to be great. And then suddenly it's like, well, everything blows up.

[Andrew Colvitt]

I totally agree. I mean, listen, you and I talked about this last week, but Rich Barris had that polling that came out that the American people are basically fed up talking about foreign things.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Foreign policy is. We are exhausted by it. And I don't want it to come off that President Trump was only talking about that. We are obviously in the midst of a government shutdown. I think we're what, 33 days into a shutdown. President Trump talked about that as well. Let's play 46.

[Donald Trump]

I'm not gonna do it by extortion. I'm not gonna do it by being extorted by the Democrats who have lost their way. There's something wrong with these people.

[Norah O'Donnell]

Then what happens on November 15 when the troops don't get a pace?

[Donald Trump]

Schumer is a basket case and he has nothing to lose. He's become. I just left Japan. He's become a kamikaze pilot.

[Norah O'Donnell]

Sounds like it's not going to get solved, the shutdown.

[Donald Trump]

It's going to get solved. Yeah. Oh, it's going to get. So how we'll get a job. Eventually they're going to have to vote.

[Norah O'Donnell]

You're saying the Democrats will capitulate?

[Donald Trump]

I think they have to. And if they don't vote, that's their problem.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Well, kamikaze. Kamikaze. Well, Chuck Schumer is kind of like he's become a clown really, of modern politics because he's so feckless and he's so controlled by the left wing flank of his party. He's done. He's done. And if AOC ran against him tomorrow, she'd win.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yes, she would. And she knows that, too. He knows that he would be against her. He knows that. So it's either he goes along with everything they want or they will primary him. And he's out. By the way, I don't know if we mentioned, but the breaking news about Nancy Pelosi talking about the old guard leaving.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah, I mean, we've heard this a few times. I remain a little bit skeptical. She's expected to make the announcement tomorrow, which we'll see. Newsmax is reporting it. So if the reporting's wrong, we'll see. But, you know, I don't know. Basically. You know, what's interesting with this whole Mamdani thing is that we've basically got one. We've got one hold. I mean, there's a few holds out in Congress, but Schumer's one of the holdouts that has not endorsed him.

[Lane Schoenberger]

This is Lane Schoenberger, chief investment officer and founding partner of Y Refi. It has been an honor and a privilege to partner with Turningpoint and for Charlie to endorse us. His endorsement means the world to us and we look forward to continuing our partnership with Turning Point for years to come. Now hear Charlie in his own words tell you about Y Refi.

[Charlie Kirk]

I'm going to tell you guys about yrefi.com that is yrefy.com why refi is incredible. Private student loan debt in America totals about $300 billion. Why refi is refinancing distress or defaulted private student loans. You can finally take control of your student loan situation with a plan that works for your monthly budget. Go to yrefi.com that is whyrefi.com do you have a co borrower? Why Refi can get them released from the loan. You can skip a payment up to 12 times without penalty. It may not be available in all 50 states. Go to yrefi.com that is yrefy.com let's face it, if you have distress or default to student loans, it can be overwhelming because of privacy loan debt. So many people feel stuck. Go to yrefi.com that is yrefy.com Private student loan debt relief yrefi.com.

[Andrew Colvitt]

I want to get to this clip again. I just, I want to do. I think we're going to transition to Elon Musk and some clips and maybe we'll get to those in an hour or two. But this is really pertinent to what we've been dealing with lately, Jack and the dehumanization of conservatives play cut 47.

[Donald Trump]

A lot of the rhetoric. Look, they call me a Nazi all the time. I'm not a Nazi. I'm the opposite. I'm somebody that's saving our country. But they call me Nazi. And the press is largely responsible for it. The fake news, what they've done. I think one of the greatest terms I've ever come up with is fake news. What they've done done to our country is very bad. They have to change around now. Nobody believes the fake news. Nobody believes them.

[Andrew Colvitt]

I mean, yeah, the dehumanizing rhetoric. Nazi, fascist, bigot, racist, xenophobe, homophobe, whatever kind of phobe they do. And Trump's absolutely right for calling it fake news because there's a lot of it in the Democrat party establishment media.

[Jack Posobiec]

Almost like, hey, fascist, catch.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah, almost like, all right, so we're talking about the shutdown we're on day 33. I really still don't feel it. I did. I experienced a little bit of it with some air traffic controllers delaying one flight that I had to catch.

[Jack Posobiec]

Seriously?

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah. We ended up. I ended up catching like a later flight. About an hour, hour and a half delayed. But it is. It is like, little by little starting to percolate.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's gonna pile up.

[Lane Schoenberger]

Yeah.

[Andrew Colvitt]

And it's gonna pile up, especially November 15th. That's gonna be the big cutoff date. So I would not expect any movement on this till then.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, wait, wait. Are you telling me that the air traffic controllers part of the shutdown is gonna happen right before Thanksgiving?

[Andrew Colvitt]

That's what I'm telling you.

[Jack Posobiec]

The largest. The single largest.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Well, that one actually might start happening sooner than that. But that's when the November 15th is when the military's not gonna get their paycheck.

[Jack Posobiec]

So the military's gonna get the paycheck. The air traffic controllers go down right before Thanksgiving.

[Elon Musk]

Okay.

[Jack Posobiec]

That. I could see that being an issue.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

And that's why Sean Duffy's been out.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Talking about it 1,000%. So here. But here's Elon Musk. He went on with Joe Rogan for like a three hour conversation. It was a real long one. I still haven't gotten all the way through it, but I found it amazing and fascinating. So let's go ahead and play. This is Elon Musk chiming in. Why Democrats do not want to end the shutdown. Actually why they are digging their heels in about making sure that illegal immigrants that are under temporary protected status or whatever classification that Joe Biden just was giving out like candy at Halloween when he was president is really the deep motivator here for the Democrat party. Play cut 55.

[Elon Musk]

The reason you have this standoff is because if the hundreds, hundreds of billions of dollars to create a financial incentive to like, to have this giant magnet to attract illegals from every part of earth to these states. If that is turned off, the illegals will leave because they're no longer being paid to come to the United States and stay here.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Wow.

[Elon Musk]

And then they will lose a lot of voters.

[Andrew Colvitt]

I just love that Joe Rogan reaction. Wow. Wow. It's like you've never heard of this before. You have to kind of remember this. As many people as Joe Rogan talks to, he just like doesn't hear kind of basic kind of. I mean, you maybe you think that's cynical. That's not cynical. It's just obvious. If you've been living on this side of the aisle and doing what we do for as long as we have, that's just obvious math that's just connecting two dots that are, that are so obvious. But then you realize when Elon goes into a setting like that and Joe Rogan's mind is blown, you're like so much of the country still doesn't get the obvious truth right in front of their eyes.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah. And if anything, if there's a silver lining at all to New York City falling to this foreign born communist.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Don't do the George well thing. Don't do the George well thing. No, it's not.

[Jack Posobiec]

But it's just when you see a guy who's just obviously anti white, obviously is going to create a, he's campaigning on a two tiered system of justice whereby if you are affluent, if you're seen as someone who is successful, if you're upper middle class, if you're, if you're a white Christian or a male. Right. You're straight, you know you're straight. Right. Then you. He was campaigning at gay bars this.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Weekend like 1am in the morning. Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

I mean he knows where his voters are.

[Charlie Kirk]

Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

And, and so he is going to basically declare open season on you. And he, it's, I think Blake said it in the chat over the weekend. His voting base are the gimmickrans. The gimme grins, Gimme grants, the gimme grins. So we are gonna take from you and give to you. This is the essence of all.

[Andrew Colvitt]

We were not born here, we did not build this country. But we're gonna move here and then we're gonna use the left wing strategy of grievance politics to make you the villain in this whole story. Even though you did nothing wrong. You were just born here, working your job, raising your children. It doesn't matter. These people came and now you have to take care of them because we have a stupid government and Elon Musk and our immigration program, our immigration system is completely jacked.

[Jack Posobiec]

And Elon's pointing out that this is a use case that they want to then expand and franchise out to the rest of the country 1,000%.

[Andrew Colvitt]

Well, you know, it reminds me of a, something Elon Musk said, I think on his last Joe Rogan interview where he basically said why he bought Twitter. And there's, you know, he probably bought it for multiple reasons, but he realized that there was an ideology that normally would have stayed totally cordoned off in San Francisco that was getting piped to the rest of the world through X and Twitter.

[Jack Posobiec]

For more on many of these stories and news you can Trust, go to charliekirk.com.