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Your donation of any amount will help. Call 888-206-2802. That's 888-206-2802 or go to charliekirk.com to make your donation today. Help a kid go to summer camp charliekirk.com My heart is heavy today and I wanted to lead the show with some very just awful news in the last couple days that has come to fold, which is a dear friend of mine and of Turning Point USA just passed away, Foster Freeze. Now this year has been tough. Last summer we lost Bill Montgomery who helped get Turning Point USA started and was the original mentor for everything that we have done at Turning Point. Billy Espy, a friend of mine from Georgia passed away suddenly back in November. Of course Rush Limbaugh passed away back in February. Another dear friend of mine, Tom Patrick, passed away recently who was one of our most generous supporters at Turning Point USA and was a man who was so clear about the need to think freely about these issues. And now Foster Fries. Foster Freeze was a larger than life man. Foster Fries was born and raised in Rice Lake, Wisconsin with nothing not a dollar to his name. He ended up being one of the most successful money managers in American history, running what was called the Brandewine. I met Foster at the stairwell the Republican national convention in Tampa, Florida in 2012. I basically had to barter my way into the convention and when I was in a stairwell I saw a man with a cowboy hat that I recognized. Of course it was Foster. I went up to him and I tried to introduce myself, but he was first to introduce his himself and he said my name is Foster Freeze. Here's how you'll remember my name. You have a Foster's beer and a thing of fries and you add an S. He told me a couple jokes. I will not repeat some of them here on air, but they were always fun, colorful and just slightly politically incorrect. He told me his favorite Bible verse, told me about himself, and then asked me what I wanted to do with my life. I told him I was trying to get an organization started called Turning Point USA that I wanted to educate, inspire, mobilize and organize young people around pro American ideas and conservative ideas. He was enthused at this proposition. We talked for quite some time, exchanged business cards and he said he'd support me. A couple weeks later he wrote us our first check of $10,000. That was the seed funding we needed at Turning Point USA to get us where we are now as the largest conservative student organization in the country. One of the largest conservative organizations in the country where we are playing offense with a sense of urgency to win America's culture war. Our relationship with Foster did not stop there. With Foster, I traveled the country with Foster, if not the world, been to different countries with him. He always had a cheerful, optimistic view of the world. He was adamant about finding common ground and being civil to one another. Foster Fries had a hatred of abbreviations for abbreviation's sake. For example, if I were to say that I ran TP usa, he'd say, no, no, no, it's Turning Point usa, otherwise known as TP usa. He was very specific in how people would communicate. For example, if you went out to dinner with Foster Fries, only one person was allowed to talk at a time. There was no side conversations allowed. You must have one conversation and then listen to that and then react from it. Foster loved telling jokes. He always had his current portfolio of jokes that were rehearsed down to the syllable and identically told to all different audiences. And Foster was probably best known for his generosity. Foster Fries made many times at Turning Point USA our success possible by issuing challenge grants. He famously came up at the stage at Mar a Lago at one of our events and came up and said, if I, I will put up $1 million if this room can raise a million dollars. And we multiplied that. Then the next year he shocked the audience and said, I will put up $5 million if we can raise $5 million. And we did that. And because of that, then Turning Point USA was able to hire all the staff we have now, where we're on pace to have 1,000 high school chapters across the country, do our campus tours, be able to do our massive events, be able to be dominant on social media, all thanks to Foster. Foster said that a day well lived is a rep r e p which means that you have some time for a relationship, you have to exercise and if you're productive, a full day, a well lived day, is including an rep. He gave away more money than any other person I've ever seen. Last year, Foster Freeze earned $87 million in the stock market. And Foster Freeze gave all of it away. He gave $87 million plus to charity last year. Just because he said, God has been good to me, I will give it away to the smallest charities imaginable. Let me tell you about Foster's 70th birthday party. Foster, a 70th birthday party in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. He invited all of his closest friends. I was not yet a friend of his. Didn't know him. I was still in high school. But he invited all of his friends to a party in Jackson Hole. He asked everyone who came to the party to write down their favorite charity on a piece of paper, saying that he was going to pick one or two by the end of the night and give them a donation in honor of his birthday. Everyone was very excited. Everyone said, maybe my charity will be picked. Maybe my private school, the charter school, the church, the hospital, whatever it is. So Foster gets up on stage and he says, you know, there's all these great charities that have been submitted. I'm going to give $70,000 to all of them. Every single person's charity was chosen. People were crying. People didn't even know what to do, where instead of choosing one or two, he chose every single charity. Now, there were hundreds of people at that event, which means hundred, about 150 couples. For those of you at home that want to do some Math, go do 70,000 times 150. He gave it away in one night. He had a magic for picking talent. He loved his country. He ran for governor unsuccessfully in Wyoming back just recently and finished second in that primary. He always wanted to see the best in people. Foster Fries even went so far to try to build a bridge with Harry Reid, something that always very was very interesting. And he thought he could find. One thing he agreed with Harry Reid on, which was restoring Ford's Theater where Abraham Lincoln was shot. So Foster gave a donation, and that got him a relationship with Harry Reid. Foster passed away yesterday, and it troubles all of us, but I know that he would not want us to be sad because he's in heaven. He was a devout Christian. He would want us to remember his legacy and to keep moving forward with good cheer, with a love of your country, a love of future generations and honoring those that came before, and to do something now about it. He lived every moment with this heroic spirit, almost like Earnest Hemingway or Winston Churchill or Teddy Roosevelt, that I'm going to just do everything I possibly can to make sure that we have something beautiful to pass on to future generations. And I can say Foster Freeze made that kind of impact on so many people, myself included. So God bless you, Foster. It's hard to believe that you're no longer around, that I'm not going to get your very carefully worded text messages or emails that say, dictated by Foster Freeze, transcribed by a service which is one of the way he texts. That's a story I'll tell sometime. But God bless you, Foster. Russell Kirk said that a life well lived is if you bring brightness to the corner which you're in. 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Burgers, patties, steak, chicken, you name it. It is summer. It's time to get grilling. Goodranchers.com Charlie just breaking right now. The United States Senate successfully blocks the January 6th commission 5435. There were some Republicans that very strangely voted for this. Susan Collins Not a surprise there. Lisa Murkowski Mitt Romney Not a shocker. Rob Portman Ben Sasse There you go. And then Bill Cassidy from. Is it Bill Cassidy? I think it's Bill Cassidy from Louisiana. This is the first filibuster of the Biden era. Thank goodness we still have that in place. And CNN says this the Republican opposition highlights the hold former President Trump still has on most of his party and underscores the deep partisan divide surrounding the fallout of the attack on the U.S. capitol. This is not the right way to look at this. After the Mueller investigation, no sane, irrational person should want to appoint another special prosecutor after that meandering, unconstitutional appointment where we saw a complete. First of all, no Democrats were successfully investigated. Well, one was. He wasn't even successfully prosecuted from it, but one was investigated. And it turned into something that was a mission creep from the original idea of, oh, we're worried Russia's interfering in our election. And it turned into going after process crimes of Stone and Manafort, Papadopoulos, Flynn and others. And so we know what happens when we give power to these independent commissioners and these independent prosecutions. Department of Justice Federal Bureau of Investigation is already looking into this. So I'm glad that Republicans actually held the line. I was a little skeptical, but I want to give credit where credit is due. I have a. Let's just say you never know where I'm going to go when I mention Mitch McConnell. Sometimes I'm very upset. Sometimes I'm very happy. Thank you, Mitch McConnell. Mitch McConnell, you coming out and saying that this commission should be blocked was a courageous thing to do. And Senator McConnell, you deserve credit for that. It would have been very easy for you to sue for peace and do the Never Chamberlain thing and just hope for better tomorrow and say, I'm going to appease the other side. What you did here was the right thing and the courageous thing. So I want to get to this other story here that you might have saw. The co founder of Black Lives Matter has stepped down. BLM co founder Patrisse Cullors has decided to step down. And we really don't know why. I mean, we do know that she has amassed a rather diverse real estate empire. She stepped down as the executive director after it was found that she has basically a real estate portfolio that would make Ted Turner jealous. She has homes from everywhere from Georgia to Los Angeles. And it's really kind of a question of what good has Black Lives Matter or BLM Incorporated actually done for the black community. You see, if BLM stood for the Black Liberation Movement and actually stood for rebuilding families and getting black fathers to take responsibility and charter schools and Increasing literacy rates. That's something that I could actually be behind. Instead, it's the exact opposite. It's about blaming white people for something they did not do. It is about embracing critical race theory. And again, if BLM was about a movement that was rooted in the tradition of Frederick Douglass, if it was rooted in the tradition of Thomas Sowell of talking about what actually matters, which is of course, a strong nuclear family, if you go to Black Lives Matter website, it says, we stand in opposition to the western prescribed nuclear family. We stand against this idea that we should have charter schools or any sort of educational programming that works. And so for that reason and other reasons as well, BLM Incorporated is actually less popular today than any other time of their existence. And despite all of that, our state Department endorsed BLM Incorporated recently. BLM Incorporated, since it went, got very, very popular. And now it's so unpopular that they're trying to go through a rebranding. They're trying to say, well, no, we're actually against police brutality, which of course is not a major threat against the black community at all. In fact, I do this with great regularity, which is how's Chicago been in the last week? For all my friends listening right now on the wonderful radio station and AM560, the answer has Chicago is are. Are the leaders of the Democrat Party focused or On Black and BLM incorporate on what's happening in Chicago? There's been 246 people shot and killed in Chicago. 1162 and1408 total shot and 263 total homicides. And most of them, a vast majority are black on black crimes. Seems that there's a great deal of silence from BLM Incorporated on that. So Patrice Cullors has stepped down after the real estate Sprint spending spree has been revealed. But the real question is this. Are we going to demand an actual name demand? Where is the actual black liberation movement of strong families and better schools and safer streets? That's something I could get behind. Ever wondered how free to access social media companies make all their money? Well, by tracking your searches, video history and everything you click on. And then by selling your valuable data. But you don't have to give big tech website access to your data. That's why I choose to protect my online activity by using ExpressVPN. When I use ExpressVPN, I'm anonymized anytime I go online. And your presence will be hidden, including your IP address. That makes your activity more difficult to trace and sell to advertisers. 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So why is it important to sustain a healthy birth rate? Well, in order for a country to have its ability to replicate its values, its language, its culture, and its history, you need to keep on having children. And so since Western society, I believe, has become too fixated on commercial society, the birth rate has gone down. Children are an inconvenience for those parents that want to go on a vacation or have more leisure time or pursue their career. And all those things are very important. Obviously, however, when you have a declining birth rate, with that, a declining marriage rate, you start to have very serious and some would say systemic issues. And when those issues do not get addressed or they get ignored, well, then the question becomes, what do we do about that? So the population collapse in the United States is very real. We are seeing less born Americans that are than ever before. And yet there is a way to fix this. There is a way to address this. And so Europe has a very similar population collapse problem. All throughout Europe, there has been this issue that we need to bring in more Arabs into Europe for cheap labor to buy our goods. Yet there's a couple countries in Central and Eastern Europe that are actually bucking the trend. Josh Hammer, who is the Newsweek opinion editor@newsweek.com recently went to Warsaw, Poland, and he talked extensively about how these two countries, despite them being labeled as authoritarian, Poland and Hungary, for example, are actually unafraid to talk about how the Western tradition of their cultural national heritages are incredibly important. Josh Hammer writes this these leaders and he's saying of Poland and in Hungary, Viktor Orban are unabashed about the superiority of their unique culture and national heritages over the Brussels based European Union siren song, publicly defensive of the Judeo Christian code and its manifest goodness, and unapologetically side with the United States over Russia and Israel over Hamas terrorists. As the post Trump American right continues to cohere and slowly find itself, it should look to modern Central and Eastern Europe to find some concrete pointers. For instance, Josh Hammer writes, whereas these states properly guard their distinct nationalities, despite a past marked by frequent conflict, shifting borders and occupation by nefarious empires such as the Third Reich and the Soviet Union, American is concurrently in the throes of an inveterating Identity Crisis of 1619 project and critical race theory inspired by racial fractiousness and national self doubt. Despite a history where some deeply lamentable pitfalls notwithstanding, there is still far more to take pride in than to lament. Americans can and should look eastward past Paris and Berlin, obviously of Macron and Merkel, for inspiration on how both substantive policy and even sheer rhetoric can help foster a culture of national pride and civic cohesion. If Poland and Hungary can take pride in the distinct national identities and ways of life despite everything this part of the world has suffered through, then surely Americans can do the same. So some people are saying that Poland and Hungary are authoritarian. That's just not true. They are more in the Western tradition than some of the chaotic, quote unquote Western democracies that exist. And I'll prove it to you. If you look at the birth rates in Hungary, Hungary stands out against a trend against their neighbors. Between 2010 and 2017, marriage rates in the European Union remained static, around 4.4 per 1,000 people per year. Yet in Hungary they rose from 3.6 to 5.2, an enormous rise of 45% in this time period. Divorces also remained static in the European Union at 2 per 1,000 people, which means half of the marriages ended up in divorce. Yet in Hungary, they fell from 2.4 to 1.9, a fall of 21%. So the question is how and why? Well, the answer is because Hungary decided to subsidize the things they wanted more of and penalize the things they did not like. So they made it easier financially easier to have children in Hungary if you are married and if you share some form of a national a national ethic. Now this is that great opposition to the current orthodoxy that dominates American politics, which is otherwise known as neoliberalism, which is at any cost whatsoever to the national fabric. We must have unrestricted, unfettered trade policy that destroys your domestic manufacturing base and brings in cheap products from overseas because it's a massive labor arbitrage, it's a capital account surplus, and we're bringing in a lot of cheap products. Therefore we're gonna get richer. But even though we might be getting materially richer, which I don't think we are, but let's pretend we are, we're actually getting, I believe, socially, culturally and spiritually poorer. Neoliberalism also tells us, and I'm not totally indicting neoliberalism, I'm not saying it's totally wrong. I just think the over ideological indulgence in that is actually very harmful. So what is an ideology? C.S. lewis famously said, an ideology or an ideologue is someone who takes one truth about the world and applies it to all of the world, which will descend you into madness. For example, something that the neoliberals believe is that all trade is all the time, always good. Now trade is good. But if you apply that one truth to all things always, then you are then going to be hiding behind ideology despite what be empirical, with the empirical truth in front of you. In neoliberalism, they also believe that mass immigration is always the solution. They always look for mass immigration as solutions to everything. So they say, well, Americans don't need to have more than one or two kids per family. No more four, five or six kids per family, not even three or four on average. Which is the healthiest, the healthy number three or four. Instead, we're going to bring in a bunch of foreigners to go do the jobs that we are not able to do. Not that we don't want to do, but we're not able to do because we're not having enough children per family. Now immigration can certain select types of immigrants can be an asset to America. Can be. But if you act as if all throughout American history always had the same levels of immigration, you're fooling yourself. Back in the 1950s and 60s, we had an American birth rate that was a multiple of our immigration rate. And this pathological repetition of the incantation of mass immigration has been so harmful to the American worker and to the American way of life. And so what Eastern Europe is doing is bucking the trend of neoliberalism ideology. We are told that diversity is our strength. I encourage all of you to check out liberal professor Jonathan Haidt, who says that diversity has its costs. But the type of diversity that research actually shows is the most healthy type of diversity is ideological diversity, which is the very type of diversity that the left wants to destroy. And that's Jonathan Haidt, who is the head of the heterodox academy. Some people would call him a liberal, I would call him a classical liberal. So we have destroyed ideological diversity for the sake of cultural and racial diversity. That doesn't make any sense at all. What makes humanity interesting is not what you look like or where you're from necessarily, but what do you think? That type of diversity is actually very healthy, that type of diversity. Hopefully, if it's done in a fair hearing and free hearing, the best ideas should win if you have some agreed upon moral and virtuous and historical foundations. So how are we going to reverse the population collapse in our country? One of two ways. Either our government is going to get serious about supporting families and making it financially easier to have lots of children, or we're going to bring in another 900,000 people from Somalia. I hate to be that binary about it, but the leaders in Washington D.C. always seem to go back to mass immigration, not select or wise or prudent immigration policies, and said they want mass immigration the most amount of people possible. And so I would argue that if the government does not have any sort of allegiance to or any sort of focus on preserving the American nation, as we call the American country, not the American colony, then they are nothing more than a provisional, temporary government serving the interests of maximizing profit and looking at America as just an island to go make as much money as possible and get out if we need to. You see the Hungarian government who's been able to change this trend, they don't view it that way. They say, we want to have more children. We believe Hungary is a wonderful country. We believe we have a unique history and we want to preserve it. If America did that, we would see a revival the likes of which I don't think many of the people in the intelligentsia would ever think possible. So there's a question, and we've been kind of playing with this a lot here on the Charlie Kirk show of where should the conservative movement go from here? And I'm seeing a resurgence of what could be called traditional conservatism. I'm actually in belief of that. And I've been reading a lot of Russell Kirk. It's so funny here at Hillsdale College, we just sat in on a course and they just happen to be reading Russell Kirk. Any college that reads Russell Kirk, send your child to that college or don't send them to college at all because there's not that many colleges. So it's Hillsdale or bust the last college as I'm wearing my Hillsdale College jacket. But I want to talk a little about in the couple minutes we have remaining here. Email us your thoughtsfreedomcharlickirk.com for this is what should the conservative movement embrace? And in a world that seems to be obsessed with this cult of progress, things changing for the sake of change. We have to be very firm on what Russell Kirk would call the 10 rules for conservatives. I'm going to read these to you and this is a whole podcast for another time. So if you're interested in this, make sure you check out the Charlie Kirk show podcast. But if I'm going to read through this and you should say how often have you heard conservative or Republican politicians talk like this? Number one, we must stand for an existing moral order. Number two, we must distrust abstractions. Prudence and pragmatism matters, not ideology. Number three variety and diversity is healthy if it's in accordance with your traditions and customs. We must stand for justice, which means it's getting what you deserve, not taking from someone what they didn't do to someone where you think they should have. Property and value are linked in one a market economy works. Number six Power is likely abused. Number seven we need community. Number eight America should set an example, not remake other nations. Amen. Number nine men and women are not perfect able. We must limit this cult of progress, this idea of historicism that we can liberate every group for the sake of liberating. At number nine, change. I mean number 10, change and reform are not identical. We must detest totalitarianism and socialism, which the current Republican party does. We also be very clear about what we stand for. The beautiful, the good, the wondrous, the true that we as conservatives are more than just a corporate handout party for Amazon. But no, we want you to have big families. We want those children that you have to love America again. We want an America where you don't have to lock your doors, where you can work with your hands, where you don't have to worry about some corporate titan like Mitt Romney coming in and shipping your manufacturing plant to Wuhan, China. We want it to be that we only declare war when we know we can win and win quickly. We want our immigration policy put our workers first and not the interests of the opposition party wants to use immigration for a political benefit. This is very simple. And the rejection of ideology for the sake of ideology's sake is something that we should talk more about. Thanks so much for listening everybody. Email us your thoughts. I just did that episode from Hillsdale College. A great place, the Athens of the North. Email us your thoughts. Freedom charliekirk.com if you want to support us, it's charliekirk.com support God bless you guys. Speak to you soon.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Episode: Central and Eastern Europe—Western Civilization’s Unlikely Ground Zero
Host: Charlie Kirk
Date: May 29, 2021
This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show explores the population crisis in Western nations, with a particular focus on how certain Central and Eastern European countries—Hungary and Poland—are defying demographic decline through pro-family national policies. Charlie Kirk reflects on the importance of preserving Western civilization, highlights the loss of his friend and donor Foster Friess, analyzes recent American political developments, and advocates for a return to traditional conservative principles based on the ideas of Russell Kirk.
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On Foster Friess:
“He always had a cheerful, optimistic view of the world. He was adamant about finding common ground and being civil to one another.” (10:20)
On Population and Cultural Survival:
“In order for a country to have its ability to replicate its values, its language, its culture, and its history, you need to keep on having children.” (28:50)
On Hungary’s Policy:
“Hungary decided to subsidize the things they wanted more of and penalize the things they did not like. So they made it easier financially to have children in Hungary if you are married and if you share some form of a national ethic.” (34:10)
On Ideological Diversity:
“The type of diversity that research actually shows is the most healthy type of diversity is ideological diversity, which is the very type of diversity that the left wants to destroy.” (39:00)
On Conservatism’s Mission:
“We as conservatives are more than just a corporate handout party for Amazon… We want those children that you have to love America again.” (49:50)
Charlie Kirk delivers the episode in his signature direct, conversational, and unapologetically conservative style. He weaves personal stories, news commentary, cultural analysis, and philosophical arguments, aiming to inspire listeners toward action in the ongoing “culture war” for American and Western values.