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I guess today is Charlie Kirk, the founder and president of tpusa. Charlie, thanks so much for joining us today.
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Honored to be here.
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Thank you.
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So I'd love to dive right into what's been going on with you lately.
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Okay.
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I think you caused a little bit of trouble during the Super Bowl. You want to tell us about that?
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Yeah.
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I mean, look, I'll never apologize for, like, defending the innocent of children. Innocence of children, which the left has always tried to get rid of. The innocence of children. And there's this super bowl halftime show that I guess people liked. Whatever. I wasn't making commentary on the music. And if you watch the 50 cent.
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Portion of it, which is, let's just.
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Put it nicely, scantily clad women, you know, bending over like long snappers in a football game and being incredibly suggestive.
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There'S no way you could say that.
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That'S okay for a six year old to see. It's the most broadcast event in humanity. 120 million people are watching.
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Why do you think that kind of content is being put out there?
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Well, I think that the left wants to continue to hypersexualize all activity. And it's one thing if it was like behind a paywall or if it's like hbo, like, I'm not gonna tweet about that. Like, whatever, okay? I'll have my own opinions on it. But you put on network television when a hundred million people are watching, including five, six or seven year olds, we're just gonna kind of normalize that type of activity. And that's why I said what I said. It's sexual anarchy, which it is. Which is a term that I've been using that I got from my friend Pastor David Engelhardt, which is the sexual domain. No rules at all. Just complete anarchy there. No order, no tradition, no right and wrong. We have all sorts of different sort of components there. And I said it shouldn't be a lot on network television. And I stand by that, because network television should be a reflection of the type of society we want to live in.
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Well, you know, it reminds me of all the craziness over Netflix's Cuties a couple years ago. You remember that?
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Yeah, I mean that. I think they got criminally indicted in a county or Texas or something. And that was really bad. But the argument could. I mean, that was like child pornography bad and pedophilia bad. It wasn't on network tv. Right. And so we're talking about that one specific instance and obvious. But, like, look, you asked why, going back to Huxley's prediction of everyone belonging to everybody and sexual restraint kind of getting completely eroded, it's been a deliberate goal of the left, post 1960s, to make sexuality something that is not private or sacred, but instead widespread and normalized, and that actually creates really normal. That creates really miserable people in a chaotic society.
C
That's so interesting because, you know, we see so many examples of what you're talking about. Hookup culture is so prevalent more and more gender ideology pushing for children to think of themselves as a different gender, as young as a toddler.
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That's right.
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Why do you think that so much of this is being pushed on our youth? And what effect will it have on the coming generations?
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Yeah, I mean, I'm unafraid to say this is being organized on a supernatural level. I mean, it's a spiritual war. No doubt. The enemy wants to have people declare war on their biological reality and take them away from things that actually give them meaning and purpose. And so I think that this is being organized on a supernatural level. You know, people think that's insane. I say it well, I'm a Christian and I stand by it. You can't be a Christian and not believe that. Right. So that's a metaphysical part of believing in Christianity. But look, it's also that you ask the why of. I think that there is a group of people that have sinned, and we're all sinners, but they somehow want to normalize and institutionalize it and act as if that it's okay. It might be a coping mechanism. I'm not really sure, but there's no way that you could say that, you know, 12 year olds getting sexual education courses or even having sex in general.
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Or 14 year olds is good for society.
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It's awful, it's disgusting, it's wrong. We should say that more and we should try to tell young people, look, you might slip up, you might make a mistake. That's okay, 100% grace, we get it. But try to save yourself for marriage. Like at least try, like make it a goal. Yeah, like that would be good.
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Yeah. And I always hear Cheap USA talking about encouraging young people to get married and I think that's really interesting. But something I keep noticing lately is, you know, you can get married, but that doesn't mean that it's going to last. So how do we tell young people to marry the right person? You know, how do we, how do we equip them to marry a good person?
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Yeah, I mean that I happen to meet the best person on the planet. I married her. So I guess I'm lucky or fortunate or blessed or whatever. That's a whole separate issue where men are super weak, they become beta males and women don't want to marry them and women have become men, so they're super angry and men don't want to be with women that are really kind of like overly aggressive. And I get that feedback from both sides all the time.
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Right.
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And I understand what I'm saying is politically incorrect.
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I don't care.
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It's just the way it is. There's a generation of like super miserable mid 30 something women that are like, why does no one want to marry me? It's like, okay, well. And then they say, you know, men are all awful and terrible.
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I just saw a TikTok a couple days ago went viral of this 30 something year old woman in LA crying about the state of dating nowadays and how she can't find anyone she wants to marry.
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Yeah.
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And like I will say this though without getting preachy, if did you save yourself for marriage? Because if you do, then all of a sudden your dating pool opens up to other people that have saved themselves from marriage.
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Interesting.
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And like that's an interesting thing, right?
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Yeah.
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And people, you're not even allowed to talk about that in society, like you're a prudish or whatever. Like, well, I think that that's a good goal. It's an ideal, right?
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Yeah. What's wrong with having goals?
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Well, I know, but I'm not trying to say you're a bad person if you've Stepped. I'm like that I'm not getting pre, like, I'm not trying to like conduct.
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Like go after you in that way.
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But it should be something that we should like. Yeah, you know what, we should try to have more people. Your young people, I actually think they'll.
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Be happier and more fulfilled.
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And by the way, the data shows it.
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Right?
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The data shows that young people that.
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Wait for marriage are happier, they live better lives, they have more children, all of it.
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That's really interesting. So, you know, as the leader of tpusa, you're pushing for messages of fidelity and I guess monogamy, right?
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Totally.
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Yeah. What else do you think is important for young people to know? Like, what is the greatest thing that we're combating these days?
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Yeah, I mean, I think it's. Again, I think it's a spiritual component, but I also think that it's something that we must be, you know, we can't get too kind of into our own doctrine where we're unafraid to talk to other people about this. Right. And some people are still trying to get their lives together. They've never kind of been exposed to this. But I also think that we shouldn't be okay with laws or public policy that makes it harder to get married and have children. Right. And so there are three things that create conservatives.
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If we want to, it's really simple, actually.
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We want to create more conservatives. You should have more people, want to own homes and property, get married and have children. Those three things create right wingers. Like, that's it. So why we're not talking about that or doing it is beyond me. Like, well, why are young people socialists? They own nothing, they're not married and.
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They have no children.
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What are they conserving exactly? Nothing. It creates radicals, actually. So that's a message, I think that resonates with a lot of young people. We should make it easier to do those three things.
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And last question for you. Are you hopeful about the state of the, the next generation of conservatives?
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Yes, I think that they're more concerned about these types of issues. I grew up in a conservative movement that was hyper libertarian 10 years ago. You probably remember it, it's become less so. And I think that's a good thing. I like the libertarians on a lot of different things. Lockdowns, you know, gun issues, things like that. But I don't think that you can order a society towards meaning or purpose. If you tell an 18 year old.
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Go do whatever you want to do.
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Whenever you want to do it, and you're somehow going to be happy. It actually creates miserable people most times. Some people might be able to figure it out. God bless you. But you'll actually probably end up 26 and, you know, unmarried and you own nothing, and you're wondering where your purpose in the cosmos is. It creates an existential crisis, actually. And I don't think we have to recreate the wheel, if you will. There is thousands of years of biblical tradition that has allowed people to have meaning, which is the three tied knot of what came before you, what's happened now, what's going to happen in the future.
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All right, well, Charlie, thank you so much.
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Thank you.
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So grateful for you for chatting with us today.
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God bless. Thank you.
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So we could either talk. It's obviously the NFL is starting tonight, or we could talk about debate.
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Debate on Tuesday. Well, so let's just ask a question. Are you guys excited for the NFL season or is it just, like, too woke for you to watch?
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I feel like I've seen. So I started off when I was a kid. I was a fanatical fan of the NFL and, like, I would cry when the packers lost and it would just.
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What year?
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Like, oh, 2000, 2007, I think was the one that was, like, really weighed on me.
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That was when Brett Favre was still there.
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Yeah, it was Brett Favre. And then he loses the last game on a pick, and I was, like, all super sad about it.
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He threw as many touchdowns as interceptions.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. You know that. So I used to get real. I lived and died by this. And then when the anthem protest started happening with Kaepernick around 26, I disengaged. I. That's. I also did the same. I thought, this is dumb. I'm going to prove that I'm not, like, ruled by cuckball or whatever they started calling it then. And so I actually had a whole year. I didn't really watch it.
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Me, too.
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And it helped. Of course, the packers were bad, and now I think I'm in a healthy spot of. Football is a fun thing that I can watch, but it's sort of lame to care about it too much. Brett Favre actually visited South Dakota in 2019.
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I'm trying to get him on the show.
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Oh, that'd be great. But Brett Favre's cool. But I saw when I went there, just to finish the story, I went there and there were all these men who were, like, substantially older than me, and they were still. It's Vikings fans here. So they were still really upset about that Packer Vikings Saints game where Sean Payton had.
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That was terrible.
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That was dirty.
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But that was the NFC championship game, I think.
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Right.
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They were really angry about it. Like, he does a Q and A, and these guys who are 45, 50 years old are livid and five of himself. He's like, you know, I know Coach Payton. I don't think he meant, you know, you know, to. I think he's a friend of mine. I don't think he meant to hurt me like that bad. And, you know, it's. It's totally under the bridge. And they're like, these guys are just seething over this and just a sport where men throw a ball and are played. Millions of dollars to do it should not make you that angry.
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But the Vikings have never won a Super Bowl. That's.
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And they never will.
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You think so?
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Never childhood me believe that, like God in his heavens has decreed the Vikings will never win a Super Bowl.
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15% of 15% of Blake takes are hilariously wrong. When he's like, yeah, 2024 is going to be a boring year.
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Yeah.
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Trump gets shot. Biden replaced. We're not even done yet.
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Yeah. And Vikings will never win a Super bowl is one of the 85% that are 100% correct.
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If I'm not mistaken, The Cardinals never won a Super Bowl. Right, Tyler?
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Depends on not transfer.
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I'm talking in Arizona. That's a bunch of.
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Yeah, in Arizona.
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Okay. You can't inherit the super bowl from Chicago.
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Well, it was. Yeah. I mean, you had Chicago and then you had St. Louis, and it was.
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It wasn't a super. It was like they had a. They have a BS title. They basically stole from the pots.
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It was the world champion.
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It was 1925. They didn't even have a title game. It was just best record and they didn't play the same number of games. And all that matters, the super bowl era, they stole it from.
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The packers won the first. The packers won the first Super Bowl. You know, my. My wife Erica is from the Lombardi family.
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Really?
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Is that right? Seriously?
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Yeah.
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That's royal blue.
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Her mom's a Lombardi.
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Literally.
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Crazy.
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Isn't that insane?
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That's right. Like, how. How close, like, is she? Like, like direct bloodline, like lineal descent from Vince.
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Yeah.
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Wow, that's crazy.
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Yeah. We have all, like all this Packer stuff at our. At our house.
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I know that. Whoa, that's interesting.
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That is why.
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And I'm from a huge Bears family, so I don't know.
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Well, you know, the Bears have won.
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A Super bowl, but 1985, best team ever assembled.
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Yep.
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And they've proved me wrong. Best. Best NFL football team ever assembled.
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You know, that might be true.
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Yeah. Thank you.
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It might be true. And they didn't win.
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You know why they never won another one?
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You know why they never won another one?
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Jim McMahon.
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Yeah. Because Jim McMahon got body slammed by a psycho Packer and probably, you know, that was disgraceful.
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Even Jack agrees. Jack agrees. It was the greatest NFL team ever assembled. 85 Bears.
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In my.
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My.
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In my eighth grade. In my eighth grade yearbook, I actually have a reference to the 85 Bears from, of course, my favorite Saturday Night Live sketch of all time. Da Bears.
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The. The. Yes. And the Bear. This give out of how crazy good the 85 Bears were. We have not won a Super bowl in 40 years. And it's still the only thing that like middle aged, mildly overweight men in Chicago still talk about is the 85 bears. They're like, you'll remember when. Go Bears. Go Bears.
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So a coach with a certain name that starts with a D, ends with an A, and has icky in the middle.
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Yeah, I've got. I've got the. I've got actually the Mike Dick sweater vest.
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Oh, isn't that the best I have in my closet. So. So the teams that never won a Super Bowl. Arizona Cardinals, Falcons. By the way, the Falcons ties into our previous topic. Can you. Can you talk about that? Wait, what if the Patriots just Would.
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Have surrendered when he's mad. Yeah, he's just like, why doesn't Churchill give up? Churchill didn't have a way to win. Like. Yeah, it's just. I can imagine, like this Falcon. See, you're just like, why didn't.
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It was 28 to 3.
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28 to 3.
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That still was the greatest comeback.
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That's not. No one's ever come back that amount that you're supposed to not. You have to make the, you know, they were offering them to shut it down.
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All right, so I have a qu. I have a good question for the group. Let me list this, okay. Cardinals, Falcons, Bills, Panthers, Bengals, Browns, Lions, Texans, Jaguars, Chargers, Vikings, Titans. Of that list, who will be the first one to win a Super Bowl? They've never won a Super bowl before.
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Bengals.
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They lost. They lost a couple years ago. They have Joe Burrow.
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The current structure and the current. The composition of the teams. Probably the Bengals are the best chance. I haven't looked at the.
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I. I think. I think the Lions.
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I'm going to say Lions.
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I think they'll play.
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I think Coach Dan, like, that's his name, right?
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Yeah. He always looks like he's ready to fight somebody.
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That guy, he seems to like.
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He's just walking around.
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He seems like a good.
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I think the Lions could win it all this year. I think they have such momentum that I think they're ready to break the curse.
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Their offensive coordinator was offered head coaching.
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Job and he says second odds.
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So Lions and then Bengals right after the Lions. So Lions is plus 1200.
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No, Chiefs is number one. Aren't they?
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I think he means well.
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I'm talking of the teams you just.
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Oh, yeah, okay.
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So Lions, Bengals, Bills.
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Bills are Bills. Bills are losing their edge. Man, they had so many chances.
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Josh Allen is too far esque, I think, for modern.
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And the Texans. Are the Texans on that list?
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Yeah. They've never won. No, no, no. Yeah, the Texas. But they used to be the Oilers. So it's just.
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The Oilers are now the Tennessee Titans.
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The other team, they haven't won either.
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The other team, along with the Vikings that will never win is the Cleveland Browns. The.
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They have no. They have one. They're right. They have one. You're right.
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They've never even been to one.
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But this is the order right now in Vegas.
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I don't think the Vikings ever been to one.
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No, they've been to four.
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Oh, is that four?
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And lost every single one.
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No, no. It's not as bad as the Bills, who lost five in a row.
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Four in a row. Four in a Row.
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Ah, get it wrong every time.
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Four in a row.
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Can you imagine?
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It's Chiefs, 49ers, Ravens, Eagles, Lions, Bengals, Bills, Texans, Packers.
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And you know what's great about Packer fan, by the way? We're like the only team that's not subject to this extremely terrible NFL policy that they're going to let private equity buy stakes in teams.
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Are you an owner?
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No, I'm. I'm not. I am not dumb enough.
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Yeah, yeah. No one of our staff member owns.
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Yeah, but.
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Okay, so don't insult this model.
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Look, it is cool that the packers are publicly owned, but owning a piece of packers stock if you are not One of the OG people from the 60s is a scam.
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No, it's not.
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It is scam. You don't get tickets.
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You get into the lottery for tickets.
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I think you have.
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You can get a lottery for tickets just without being an owner.
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Yeah, if you want to pay, like three times markup.
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And in any case, the waiting list is now so long that if you register your child, maybe their child will be able to get it after they.
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I think it's amazing. That's so cool that this, like, very small, moderate, like, boring Midwestern town has this powerhouse NFL team.
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The only right thing ever, the only right you get is you get to go to the shareholder meeting, which is in Lambeau Field, and they all vote. Okay, that's cool. You don't have actual controlling voting power is with people from the 50s.
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Yeah, but it's politics. It's democracy.
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You know, they used to play Milwaukee.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And they have. They have green and yellow days. Yeah, yeah.
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Because of the old.
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They have green and yellow days where the green is all the rules and the yellows are. I mean, I might get mixed up, but like, all the ticket holders. Milwaukee have yellow holding days and green ones. And so when it's like Milwaukee, that's all a bunch of libs that go up and then it's green. It's like all Trump country.
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Since you're a Bears fan, you might not know this. Did you know that teams are allowed to, like, be good for more than one season in their history?
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For the record, we were in a Super bowl against the Indianapolis Colts in 2008, I think, and 2006 season.
D
So I think seven would be the year it happened.
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Hey, the bear.
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No, I think it was the Super bowl. Would have been 2000. Can you guys check me?
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I think it's the 2000s for 2007. 2007 is when the Patriots go 18 and 1.
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I would put money on this. This would be.
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I will put money on this.
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It's not second.
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It was the Super bowl was $100. February 2008.
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I'm gonna put money on it.
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$2,700.
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That was the Cardinals. 2008 was the Cardinals and Steelers.
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Check it out.
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That was 2008. Season. 2008.
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No, no, no. It's the Super Bowl. Happened in February 2008. Check it. Oh, check it.
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Super Bowl.
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Blake's gonna owe me $100.
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I just looked at this. I'm pretty sure Sunday, 2008.
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It was on February 4, 2007. The Indianapolis Colts defeated the 29 to 77.
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Are you sure?
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Yeah.
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2008 was 41. Look it up.
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2008 was Arizona. That was the crazy game.
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Pretty sure it was 2008.
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No, that was the Patriots and Giants. Crazy game. That was the perfect Patriots year, I think. Right.
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Sadly, I have, like, encyclopedic knowledge of, like, this period of.
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That was like.
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No, that's all fake. It's all been rewritten.
F
Yeah. Like alternate timeline. I was 07. It was 07.
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That's gonna ruin my whole day. I can't interview J.D. i'm done. Like, I just. Everything's ruined.
D
Man. J.D. vance must be a Bengals fan. That has to be hard.
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What NFL team do you hate the most?
D
Oh, Vikings.
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Dallas Cowboys.
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Oh, yeah. You know what? They're close. Cowboys are so easy to hate.
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It's not even close.
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Why. Why is every Cowboys fan, like, a 5 foot 6 Mexican with long jean shorts?
D
No, that. That's, like, not true. The actual. The interesting thing with the Cowboys is, like, they are very national. Like.
F
Well, there's an explanation, actually, reasonably for. This is the same thing with the Dodgers.
A
They're like the America. I've heard.
D
I've heard Mexico likes the Steelers a lot.
F
No, because there was. For a long time in American history, there was a massive gap between basically, Texas and California. And so they're. They're. The Cowboys gobbled up basically all of western United States until California. Because there were no. There were no football teams even in California that were long standing and well respected. So all of western United States, basically, the Cowboys were your team before those other teams came into existence.
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Also, they had such a run in the 90s that it just became America's team.
F
Well, but before that, like, my dad's a Cowboys fan.
A
What?
F
Because there were everyone in Arizona, Austin's entire family, everybody. Everybody that lived in Arizona was a Cowboys fan by default.
A
The. So the Titans. The Vikings. You hate the Vikings.
D
The Vikings are just sort of.
A
You hate the Vikings more than the Bears.
D
The thing. Yeah, so the thing is, the Vikings are more consistently competitive than the Bears. And they're also just kind of a fun butt monkey to make fun of because their history, like, you can make. And in fact, they did make like an eight part documentary series on the Vikings. Many failures. The Bears, it's just like, oh, here's their 87th quarterback of the last, Kyle.
B
Or.
D
And they're like, oh, Jay Cutler just managed to throw the ball for 3,200 yards and 12 touchdowns, thereby cementing the greatest offensive season by any Bears quarterback in history.
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Do you think so? Of this list? Lions, I agree. The Bills are losing it. The Falcons. Man, that's such a sad story, isn't it?
D
Well, it depends on your point of view. Like, the Falcons.
A
So, I mean, I don't hate the Falcon.
D
I don't hate the Falcons. But I will be appreciative that in the 2017 Super Bowl. This is right after the 2016 election, the media basically decided that the Falcons were the Lib America team because they represented Atlanta.
A
Yes.
D
They were like, you know, the blue city in a red state. They were.
A
That's why I was cheering for the Patriots.
D
And they were like, they kind of made it a race thing. Like, they represented black America. And then like, the Patriots were the white team. It was very bizarre.
A
Even though they're from Massachusetts.
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Yeah.
D
So they're from this blue state. But on the other hand, Belichick. Belichick wrote a letter endorsing Trump. Yeah, that was private.
A
That's right.
D
And then I just love this story that the Trump campaign asks him, can we release this? And he's like, oh, you want to release it? Here, let me rewrite the letter to be more effusively positive. Like, I didn't want to suck up too much in private, but I'm going to suck up to the max in public.
A
That's so funny.
D
Oh, it's such a great story.
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Who? I was there when Trump first read the letter at a New Hampshire rally the day before the election. I was with. I was traveling with Trump that night.
D
We almost won.
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And he just got.
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I know.
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He just got on Instagram. I'll.
D
I'll never forget that.
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That was amazing.
D
The moment I realized, like, could happen, there were two things that'll always stick out with me. My friend who was doing poll watching in New Hampshire just tells me, blake, we're getting we're getting these random hunters from rural New Hampshire who haven't voted in 12 years, and they're coming out, and, like, a lot of them are coming out. I remember that. And then I also remember seeing Ross Douthat tweeting. This was, like, at the exact moment her odds peaked on the New York Times dial for Hillary. And he's just like, you know, I'm looking at the map, guys, and I just don't. Florida doesn't seem that bad. Like, it seems like the rural numbers are really good. And that's the exact moment it just starts swerving the other way. Always remember it.
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So you can find my tweet. I owe Blake 100 bucks, which I will pay, and then I will give somebody $25 if they can find my tweet from 2016 of my day before election tweet that I predict my prediction. If you could find it. No one ever gives me credit for this. I what I predicted the day before the election. Do you remember this? And I got so much hate the day before. And because I was traveling with the campaign and I was like, I think Trump's gonna win. I think he's gonna win Michigan. And people came after me, like. And I put it, by the way, in writing, published the tweet.
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Yeah.
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It was the day. I've got it.
D
I've got it. November 7th, 2016.
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Final prediction, like, $125.
D
This is great. This is one of my better days.
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Yeah, you got to put that. That's really. Yeah.
D
Final prediction, Michigan going red. Bold. But it could happen. You heard it here first. And then you know what you also did? You predicted that Wisconsin and Pennsylvania would be go blue.
A
I know.
D
You didn't believe enough, Charlie.
A
I didn't get the whole map right, but I did.
D
You're a traitor. You abandoned Trump.
A
That's how I called Michigan, though. That's pretty legit, though.
F
Yeah, we had done.
A
There were.
F
We had done.
D
Yeah, I think I called Michigan. I think my final map. We had a contest at the Daily Caller and got very close to the actual electoral vote total, but I was off in the states. I gave him Michigan. I think I did Michigan, New Hampshire, Nevada. So my map is almost the same as yours, but I had Nevada, too.
A
I got to get Blake on, like, an autopay of Venmo at this rate, at this point. So NFL season, who do you guys think is winning the Super Bowl? I'm going to be cheering for and pulling for the Lions.
F
I agree.
A
I think. I think Lions are great.
D
You've given up on the Bears already?
A
Look, it's. It's. It's fruitless at this point. I mean, we're gonna be disappointed. Caleb Williams, like a Terry's ACL on the third week.
D
Are you really going to be. Is disappointed the word you want to go for here? If you're like, I mean, was there hope?
A
Not really. I just.
D
Have you had hope since, like, Brian Erlacher retired?
A
I love. I like him, actually. He's such a sweet guy. He's super conservative. He lives in Arizona, by the way. He's really right wing.
F
No, I'm hoping that the Bears actually have a surprise season where I don't.
A
Think they're gonna go to Super Bowl. Football is better when the Bears are good. Yeah. Because first of all, they're one of the most loved franchises, and you. One of America's biggest cities is on fire. We've just been this, like, dormant football beast for, like, the last 20 years. You want that? I mean, like, enough of this. Like, by the way, Kansas City, like, okay. There's only so much population base there. It's the same, like, 100,000 people that go to the games. Like, okay, great, fine, terrific. Like, we. We. The. The teams I want to see suffer. Dallas Cowboys cannot stand them. I don't sleep on the Dolphins, by the way. I think the Dolphins are gonna be really good.
D
I mean, Dolphins put up 70 on a team last year that was amazing.
A
Is the real deal. I'm telling you, that guy can ball.
D
I could not have pronounced that name.
A
I'm telling you. C.J. stroud, the Houston Texans, if he stays healthy, will be one of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history.
F
Texans are going to be good. I'm really pulling that. The Cardinals figure it out this year. I think.
A
No, they got to get rid of Kyler Murray.
F
I think it sucks. We're going to see. We're going to see. We're going to see. Marvin Harrison Jr.
A
Keeps special. He's gonna be special. They should sign him. 20 year could be special. He's really good.
F
It was a good.
A
It was a good. Kyler Murray's the most overpaid, overrated person.
F
We also have some good other guy. Our tight end Trey McBride, I think is going to be really good. So we'll see.
A
I'm pulling for the Cards. Oh, and I'm pulling for the Broncos to go 500. Bo Nicks.
F
Yep. Bo Nicks.
A
Let's think of the other teams I hate. Oh, I want the New York jets to do well. I have like, more teams I'm cheering for than I'm.
D
Jack is saying we should each, like, do a quick, like, map prediction of the election if we want.
A
No, we're not doing it. We are not. No. All right.
F
Do not put that out there.
A
All right, Jack, you've been quiet for some time. How are the Eagles doing?
G
Well, so the Eagles, lately, the biggest thing this week was this whole thing with the Kamala Harris ad. Like, the fake they claimed was a fake ad that went up. I don't know if we have the image saying that Kamala Harris is the official candidate of the Philadelphia Eagles. And this was going up at at least one bus station in, right, in, like, center City, Philadelphia. And it had the website on it. I think it was, like, PhiladelphiaEagles.com vote and it had a picture, the sort of, like, animated picture of Kamala Harris in an Eagles jersey in the Eagles helmet. And the Eagles put out the statement saying, oh, well, you know, it's.
A
It's.
G
It's not her, it's not going to be her, etc. This is not approved. But then there was a guy who. I've got it. What was his name, the mole? He was Christian Molar, who said in the comments, because. So this other guy who's a Trump supporter from Philly, went over and started, like, plastering over the Eagle over this. This quote, unquote fake ad. And then Christian Molar, a Twitter user, and you know, shout out to Laura Loomer for catching this. By the way, that said in the comments, how dare this guy cover up an official ad or cover up an ad like this? And if you don't like it, that's too bad. And people are like, wait, who's this guy saying it's a real ad? And it turns out that he was the. The director of team relationships for the Eagles and actually worked at the Eagles for, like, 25 years. So as someone who would be very well within the know of actually knowing whether or not this was a real ad. So he's subsequently locked his Twitter account and it's become the sort of, like, whole firestorm as to whether or not this guy had potentially actually approved whatever this thing is to go up.
A
I have no sympathy for the Eagles and I hope they lose every game and. And that they sell their franchise for parts.
D
You want to bring back the Steagalls? Do you know about this story?
A
I don't know. I think the Eagles might be one of my most hated franchises. So, no offense, Jack.
D
In World War II, due to budget shortages, the Eagles and the Steelers temporarily merged into one team that they called the Steagalls.
G
It was an all Pennsylvania team.
F
Yeah, I think it's more the fans than it is the actual.
A
No, I know the fans are so.
F
Aggressive, but this Kamala thing this week, I want to get answers. I need answers from Jack. Jack should not again, by the way.
G
Like, if people. If people want, like, an understanding of who Posobic is, just understand that I grew up as a Philadelphia sports fan. So, like, that should just be.
F
I need answers on this. On this. I need answers on this Kamala ad, who produced it, how it got out there. This is going to go down like the pipe bombs in Washington, D.C. the RNC pipe bomber.
G
So we're tracking down. I've already got. I've already got people that are looking into this guy's family because it turns out that this Christian Molnar guy is also from Norristown, Pennsylvania, which is the exact same town that I'm from, just outside Philly. So we're tracking him down. Christian Molnar. Stay tuned. You don't know who's going to be reaching out on Facebook. Could be one of post those people.
A
Oh, John Fetterman was right all along. Play cut 80.
B
And the Eagles are so much better than the Eagles.
A
Every time I hear the Eagles, I think of.
D
I don't get how they couldn't just make him. Like, that's clearly the smartest Eagles fan in human history. So they should have made him like the head coach or something.
F
No, he should be the official candidate of the Philadelphia Eagles. It should be Fetterman, official candidate of the Philadelphia Eagles.
G
He's not even from, like, the Eagles part of Pennsylvania. That's what's so disingenu. He's. He's from decidedly Sealers territory. So.
A
So help me just really quick as we wrap up here, Blake, I think the NFL is kind of getting its mojo back. It's a thing now that has a lot of dominance. It has more chatter. Would you agree? It really took a nosedive in 2020 and people thought like, oh, football's going down. It feels bigger than ever.
D
It really is. The NFL is like.
A
It's like state run religion.
D
It's just the perfect sport.
A
It really.
D
It's like, unkillable. It's just. It's so like.
A
But am I right? The only way bigger than.
D
The only way they can screw it up, frankly, is I think if they. If they just get too greedy, like, they keep wanting to add more games on more days.
A
Brazil or like, what Are you doing?
D
I don't mind the Brazil thing. You know, you do one game here like every, have every team do one game overseas while you've got this 17 game season. So then everyone's eight and eight and then one international game. I think that's fine. But I think where they're really kind of taking risks. Are they what? You'll see a few things. One, they'll try to put games on too many days. And kind of one of the things the NFL has is they've just basically made Sunday like, you know, there's only.
A
Two days you go to Tuesday and Wednesday are the only days without that game.
D
Yeah, well, yeah. Now. And it's making it worse and worse. We have a Friday game now.
A
Like it should be a Thursday.
D
Friday, Saturday, Sunday, you go to church, you go watch football, or you just watch football, you know, depending on your point of view. And then there's a Monday night game if you're an obsessive. And they. Them colonizing that one day a week actually is like the perfect level of dominance without it drowning everything out. And the other thing is the NFL is the last thing that's on normal television. And where I could see them screwing up the golden goose is they let a bunch of games go on Peacock or Amazon prime or Netflix or something stupid like that, and suddenly too many NFL games are on some bullcrap subscription service that you have to buy rather than just on normal tv. And I think that's how you ruin it. You make the NFL too exclusive. The tickets are already really expensive. Like you never really go to an NFL game anymore unless you just love setting tickets on fire. And I think that is. Or setting money on fire. And I think that is the long term hazard. But the actual sport is so good.
B
They've kind of.
D
They got through the political harrowing period. You can actually have a right wing player again. And it's not the end of the flipping world. They got, they got, they survived all of that. They have pretty likable stars.
A
They.
D
I feel like players even get arrested a bit less than they used to progress. It's. It's a. And also college football is screwing it up. Sorry, Charlie, I've got bad news. College football is dumb now.
A
No, it's not. College football is.
D
I just don't get the whole like, like, oh, the great amateur sportsmanship when every single player is this mercenary for hire on a one year contract for whatever booster.
A
It was an inevitable thing. There's no other way to do college football in the modern social Media era. And with the Supreme Court decision, we should just blame the Supreme Court. Blake. Blame the Supreme Court.
D
I just.
A
With name, image, likeness, I'm going to.
D
Know the way to do really mad. I just. I think college football has outlived its usefulness. It's now. Now it mainly exists to be like, we can't fix our schools because then it would screw up the heck. And football team, man, it's been that.
A
Way for 20 years.
D
But it's worser now. Much worser.
A
Is that a word?
B
Worser?
D
It is now.
A
Yeah. I was going to say the Dartmouth grad is using good grammar.
D
It's probably a word.
A
We have to go. Thank you, guys. So, final super bowl picks. I think the Bears will not win. I want the Lions to win. Blake.
D
I'm going to go total homer. Jordan Love's going to. Going to pull it all together.
A
He's overrated.
D
We'll get our one super bowl win that we get with each of our hall of Fame quarterbacks. And then he'll be the quarterback for the next 18 years, and then he'll go play on the jets for a year and then the Vikings.
A
Tyler.
F
Oh, man, I would love to see a Lions, Jets, super bowl, man, if we could live through.
A
The jets are not that good, though.
F
I understand. But like, just like some miraculous thing happens, you know?
A
Is Aaron Rodgers. Is Aaron Rodgers going to play Monday? Yeah. Are you sure?
F
That's what I'm told.
D
He'll play on Monday. And they're playing the Niners.
A
I don't think that's been confirmed.
D
They're playing the Niners, and the guy who injured him in the first game last year is now on the Niners.
F
How funny would that be?
A
Are you kidding me?
D
I believe it's the Niners they're playing, but whoever it is, the player who injured him is on the opposing team again.
F
A Lions, Jets, super bowl would be great for America.
A
Did he play in any preseason games?
D
No, but, like, he didn't play in preseason in Green Bay either. Rogers doesn't like playing.
A
Yes, he does. He's such a baller. I want to meet that guy. I want. I want to be like Darren Rogers on my list of someone I want to be friends with, even though I hear he's a really bad person.
D
If he just comes in, all you have to do is when he shows up, you say, you know, you're shorter than I expected. And he gets, like, really butthurt about this. If you say that.
A
Is he shorter? Is he not. He's not that tall.
D
He's actually pretty. He's like six three or something. But people kind of sometimes expect these NFL players to just be gigantic. And, you know, he's not like a super. He's not a linebacker.
A
Well, the Internet says he's six two.
F
I understand.
A
By the way, did they fix my height yet on Wikipedia?
F
What is.
A
They did.
D
That's amazing.
A
Our PR campaign worked. Isn't that hilarious? We ridiculed them. That is so funny.
E
You were.
A
They said I was 6:1, and now they say I'm 6:5. That is so funny. All right.
D
Very happy for you, Jack.
A
You want the Eagles to win?
E
Birds.
G
Birds all the way. Green, gang. But, of course, I do also have to say, let's get back to our scenario time, folks. Bears versus the assembled choir of heavenly angels. The whole choir? Yeah, you know, the seraphim, the jar from the whole nine yards. Angels. Angels. But it's close. And then they cut to Chris. Chris Farley. And he's got that giant stein of beer, and he's just like, bears.
A
The Bears. We'll see what Caleb Williams is made of.
F
Not, not, not. Super Bowl.
A
In the next decade, Bo Nicks will win a Super Bowl. God bless, guys. See you soon. Enjoy the NFL. America's better when sports are on tv.
E
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No one took a vote that after trying to the left and trying to the right and trying to the upper left and the right that the bottom is the best. I just, I thought it was very underwhelming. I will say, I think. Andrew, thank you bringing this up. I think Tom Brady did great. I thought Tom Brady was a 10. I thought Tom Brady was a 10. I thought Tom Brady was way better than I anticipated. And dare I say, I thought Tom Brady was even better than Tony Romo. I know Tony Romo is. You know, I think Tony Roma gets a lot of. He gets a lot of mixed reaction. I thought Tom was terrific. I've always been a huge Tom Brady fan, but he just seemed as if he was having fun. He was having a blast. And I think Tom Brady was also enjoying it because he was like, haha, Mahomes, you're not the goat. And he obviously channeled a lot of his super bowl experiences. But look, that's not easy. You got to be honest. Like doing color commentary without a lot of experience on that, that's not easy. I thought Tom Brady crushed it. I thought he did very well. Over 100 plus million people were watching. Can I also just mention the commercials were terrible. I thought they were so underwhelming. And I thought the best commercial was the food conspiracy one, the Matthew McConaughey. Do you know what I'm talking about? I thought that was the best one because it also had the bears in it. But the greatest moment of the super bowl, to great Daisy and Emma's delight, was when finally, I don't know if Taylor Swift has ever gotten booed. About time. Taylor Swift had no idea what was happening after getting booed when shown on The Jumbotron play. Cut 41. Oh, they're booing her. And I love when she says, like, what is going on? She's never been booed in her life. And look, I just, I think it's well deserved. She went after MAGA and endorsed Joe Biden and she's not exactly in favorable company there. Let's put 56 up there. This is the meme. It's pretty good. President Trump got applauded. Look, regardless your opinions on Taylor Swift, it was a fun moment, but it really represented a cultural shift, represented a Cultural shift, where President Trump gets roaring applause and Taylor Swift not as much. Here's President Trump getting applauded. Cut 42. And then there was this Nike ad saying that women were oppressed overall. I will say, though, that the advertisements were probably more pro American, more pro family, and a little less woke than I would have anticipated in previous years. But it just seems like the spark and the creativity was largely missing from them. You could see them clearly trying to signal. But a lot of the ads were just bland. They weren't boundary pushing. They weren't that entertaining, some of them. I even said. I said, I know that ad. They run that on regular TV. It's the McConaughey Salesforce ad. They've run that many times. And, you know, they say that the super bowl reflects kind of where American culture is. And here's the best summary I could. I could give. We're. We are in. We are in progress of exercising the woke, but we're not there yet. We're in progress of expelling it from our system, but we're not there yet. The vibe ship is clear, but we still have a lot of work to do. And by the way, so many of the ads were released before the super bowl, so it wasn't exciting to watch it for the first time like it used to be. But, I mean, if I was a marketing agent, I would revert, I would release it ahead of time because you get all these extra views and then you get the views at the Super Bowl. So releasing ahead of time, I think, is actually super smart. Overall, I was thrilled to see the Kansas City Chiefs lose. I hate to say it. I like Mahomes, think he's a great guy. I like Harrison Butker, got to know him. But seeing the Philadelphia again, I'm not exactly an Eagles fan. I think they burnt Philly. Philly to a crisp. There's gonna have to be, like, a rebuilding plan, a national stimulus plan. I think FEMA is gonna have to visit Philly after what happened last night. But I was happiest of all for Jalen Hurts. Jalen hurts. In 2018, I remember he was benched in the middle of a national championship where Tua Tagaviola took over. And then he ended up having to transfer to Oklahoma. He never gave up. He fought for every inch. I've been following his career for years. People thought he was no good. And now he is Super Bowl MVP and Super bowl champion, and they can never take that away from him. God bless you guys. For more on many of these stories.
D
And news you can trust.
A
Go to charliekirk.com.
Podcast: The Charlie Kirk Show
Episode: Charlie on The Super Bowl: Halftime Shows, Football, and Cultural Flashpoints
Date: February 8, 2026
Host: Charlie Kirk
This episode revolves around the Super Bowl as a cultural flashpoint in America, exploring its halftime show controversies, the NFL’s cultural evolution, football fandom, and the intersection between sports and social trends. Charlie Kirk and his guests take an unapologetically conservative lens to dissect what the Super Bowl reflects about American values, generational change, and the current culture war, sprinkling in lively sports banter and reflections on society, faith, and family throughout.
[01:18–04:34]
Sexualization on National Television:
Wider Trends in Sexual Norms:
Spiritual War Framing:
[04:34–08:44]
Championing Traditional Values:
Diagnosing Social Malaise:
Recipe for Creating Conservatives:
Society & Law:
[07:46–08:44]
Conservative Youth:
Societal Purpose:
[10:01–36:28]
[37:12–42:54]
Presentation/Production Critiques:
Tom Brady’s Commentary Debut Praised:
Commercials Lacked Spark:
Cultural Vibe Shift:
Memorable Moments:
On the Halftime Show:
“There’s no way you could say that’s okay for a six-year-old to see. It’s the most broadcast event in humanity.”
— Charlie [01:51]
On Sex & Society:
“It’s sexual anarchy, which it is. Which is a term that I’ve been using that I got from my friend Pastor David Engelhardt, which is the sexual domain. No rules at all.”
— Charlie [02:13]
On the Spiritual Nature of Cultural Conflict:
“This is being organized on a supernatural level. It’s a spiritual war. No doubt.”
— Charlie [03:44]
On Young People & Marriage:
“Try to save yourself for marriage. At least try, make it a goal. Yeah, like that would be good.”
— Charlie [04:43]
On Creating Conservatives:
“If we want to create more conservatives, you should have more people want to own homes and property, get married and have children. Those three things create right wingers. Like, that’s it.”
— Charlie [07:21]
On Football as Modern Ritual:
“The NFL is like state-run religion... It’s unkillable. It’s so... like, the only way they can screw it up, frankly, is if they get too greedy.”
— Charlie [31:03, edited for context]
On Tom Brady’s Commentary:
“I thought Tom Brady was a 10. I thought Tom Brady was way better than I anticipated. And dare I say, I thought Tom Brady was even better than Tony Romo.”
— Charlie [37:12]
On Taylor Swift Being Booed:
“She went after MAGA and endorsed Joe Biden and she’s not exactly in favorable company there...it really represented a cultural shift, where President Trump gets roaring applause and Taylor Swift not as much.”
— Charlie [37:12]
On the State of Wokeness:
“We are in progress of exercising the woke, but we’re not there yet. We’re in progress of expelling it from our system, but we’re not there yet.”
— Charlie [37:12]
On Football’s Role in America:
“America’s better when sports are on TV.”
— Charlie [36:28]
| Segment | Timestamps | |---------------------------------------------------------|------------------| | Halftime show controversy & sexualization | 01:18–04:34 | | Link to “Cuties,” Huxley & sexual norms | 02:41–03:25 | | “Spiritual war” & youth cultural trends | 03:44–04:34 | | Marriage, dating, and family values | 04:34–08:44 | | Recipe for “making conservatives” | 07:19–07:36 | | Cultural shift among young conservatives | 07:46–08:44 | | Football nostalgia and team rivalries | 10:01–21:32 | | Eagles-Kamala Harris ad story | 27:00–30:08 | | NFL’s cultural dominance, risks, and streaming worries | 31:00–33:57 | | College football’s shift and future | 33:09–34:06 | | Final fandom/sports optimism | 34:16–36:28 | | Super Bowl review (production, ads, Swift, Hurts, etc.) | 37:12–42:54 |
This episode uses the Super Bowl as a mirror for shifts in American culture, emphasizing the ongoing pushback against perceived leftist influence in entertainment, increasing appetite for traditional values among young conservatives, and football’s enduring (and, for Kirk, unifying) role in the nation’s life. It is equal parts social critique and lively sports bar conversation, with moments of sharp cultural commentary, playful nostalgia, and a through-line of optimism that America's cultural pendulum is “in progress of expelling the woke.”