The Charlie Kirk Show

Episode: Charlie's Biblical Case for Borders + The Letter to Bibi
Date: September 30, 2025
Host: Andrew Colvett (with guests Steve Deace, Blake, and Tom Homan)
Primary Theme: Honoring the late Charlie Kirk, his worldview, and exploring the biblical case for strong borders, institutional decline, immigration, masculinity, and a behind-the-scenes look at Kirk’s letter to Israel's Bibi Netanyahu.

Overview

This episode is a moving tribute to Charlie Kirk, reflecting on his legacy, the principles he championed, and addressing critical issues facing America from a Biblical and conservative perspective. The discussion covers the importance of borders (both spiritual and national), the decline of American institutions, the moral and masculine decline in leadership, and the proper use of power against rising cultural and political chaos. The second half features Tom Homan, former Trump border czar, who discusses the realities on the ground regarding immigration, violence, and law enforcement, and ends with a deep dive with Steve Deace on the controversy surrounding Charlie Kirk’s letter to Bibi Netanyahu and its theological foundations.

Key Segments & Highlights

1. Remembering Charlie Kirk

• Reflections on Charlie’s Legacy (00:56–05:00)
  • Host and guests discuss the profound sense of loss following Charlie’s death, emphasizing his humility, leadership, and the spiritual revival he helped galvanize.
  • "He was always willing to change his mind. He had no embarrassment… he cast a wide net." — Blake (02:22)
  • Steve Deace talks about legacy:
    "What just transpired is we had the largest proclamation of the Gospel... in the history of our species." (05:46)
• Impact on the Movement & the Country
  • Steve Deace asserts that Charlie’s influence triggered a potential spiritual revival and catalyzed young people to reconnect with the church and moral standards.
  • Notable quote:
    “If it’s not a revival… the Holy Spirit is at least testing us to see if we’re ready for it.” — Steve Deace (05:46)
  • Description of recent outward signs, e.g., young people donning suits to church in honor of Charlie (08:31–09:20).

2. Institutional Decline and the Border Crisis

• Case Study: Iowa School Superintendent Scandal (10:22–15:00)
  • Discussion centers on Ian Roberts, an illegal immigrant superintendent in Iowa, with weapons charges and fraudulent documentation.
  • Commentary on systemic failures, DEI hiring practices, and voter fraud in blue states.
  • "Worldview is destiny and no one can rise above their worldview." — Steve Deace (13:26)
  • Consensus that decline of institutional standards and corruption are a feature, not a bug, of progressive governance.
• Debating Institutional Abandonment or Reform (14:47–15:23)
  • The show questions whether conservatives should reclaim institutions or build alternatives. Steve argues that conservatives have not yet earned the right to decide until they’re willing to wield actual power.

3. Masculinity, Fitness, and Leadership

• Military Decay & Cultural Rot (18:41–22:30)
  • Playful but pointed shots at overweight generals and the lowering of physical and moral standards across the military and American life.
  • Pete Hegseth’s viral monologue about military discipline is played (18:56).
  • "What were you guys doing for the last generation that you left us this big, giant mess?" — Steve Deace, channeling Gen Z rage (21:21)
• Generational Responsibility
  • Concerns about youth inheriting a "systemically weaponized" culture, where all institutions are suspect or corrupted.

4. The Biblical Case for Borders

• Scriptural Arguments & Misinterpretations (28:20–33:05)

  • The show systematically breaks down the misuse of scripture by open-border advocates, asserting a balanced biblical stance on foreigners and the need for assimilation.
  • Direct Charlie Kirk soundbites:
    • "Plenty of scriptures say… love the foreigner because you were once strangers, but also [others] warn you that foreigners can become your masters…" (30:06)
    • "Immigration without assimilation is invasion." — (28:34, paraphrased)
  • Steve Deace emphasizes the difference between sojourners (legal guests/assimilators) vs. squatters (illegal, non-assimilating migrants).

• Borders, Nations, and the Divine Order (32:17–34:03)

  • Kirk and Deace both argue that God's design for nations, borders, and diversity is fundamentally opposed to globalism. Reference to Genesis 11 and the Tower of Babel (32:28).
  • Memorable illustration from Kirk comparing globalism to blending an entire Thanksgiving meal into a slurry.

• Key Takeaway:
  "Borders are where bad ideas end and good ideas begin." — Charlie Kirk (33:27)

5. Use of Political Power & The Passive Church

• Obstacles to Conservative Effectiveness (24:23–28:03)
  • Deace strongly critiques the American Church for prioritizing passivity and “niceness” over biblical strength and discipline.
  • Definition:
    "Meekness is power under control."
  • Argues for a new militant engagement: "Everything other than explicitly what the word of God says we cannot do to win—we're going to do everything else." (25:22)
  • Urging the audience to confront evil directly and use delegated power for righteous ends, without fear of liberal criticism.

6. Interview: Tom Homan — Border Realities & Rising Violence

• Personal Tribute (36:12–39:43)

  • Emotional appreciation for Kirk and Turning Point's work.
  • "What happened to Charlie broke my heart. I believe what he was doing is a big part of saving this country." — Tom Homan (36:38)

• Escalating Left-Wing Violence (41:02–48:18)

  • Rutgers study: Half of left-of-center respondents justify violence against Elon Musk and Trump; similar attitudes expected against ICE.
  • Firsthand account of ongoing assaults on federal property/facilities, especially in Portland, and leftist politicians’ denial.
  • "Attacks against ICE officers is up over a thousand percent. ICE officers are moms and dads, sons and daughters..." — Tom Homan (42:31)
  • Homan’s advice: "Don't stop, don't fold. We're not running anywhere." (41:43)

• ICE & Border Patrol Morale (50:53–53:38)

  • Morale has risen due to support from Trump and enforcement of laws.
  • Homan encourages young people to look into law enforcement, but also to become active locally—not just federally—to restore the nation.

7. The Letter to Bibi & Israel’s Place in Prophecy

• Context and Reaction (59:13–64:01)
  • Charlie Kirk penned a private, blunt letter to Netanyahu, criticizing Israel’s PR handling during conflict—leaked to some controversy.
  • Steve Deace contextualizes it as consistent with Charlie’s public and private positions: unwavering support for Israel coupled with willingness to challenge Israeli policies, especially on communication and overplaying the antisemitism card.
  • In-depth discussion of the theological debate about Israel’s prophetic role: pre-dispensationalism vs. dispensationalism.
    • "We are a generation overdue for this debate." (67:19)
  • Israel as a buffer against Islamic aggression:
    "For 1200 years, there was no nation called Israel, but we still had Islam." — Steve Deace (71:01)
    • Critique of both boomer “Israel-only” politics and the current right’s slide toward anti-Israel sentiment.

8. Islam’s Political & Demographic Challenge in the West

• Rising Islamic Influence (69:15–72:41)
  • Personal anecdotes from trips to London and observations about immigration-driven cultural change and political shifts.
  • Stark warnings about Europe’s demographic trajectory, and the implications for America (e.g., Dearborn, MI).
  • Islamic doctrine’s incompatibility with Western pluralism and church-state separation.
    • "Separation of church and state is not a debatable tension in Islam." (72:41)

Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• Charlie Kirk:
  "My role is to confront evil and proclaim the truth." (27:23)
  "Immigration without assimilation is invasion." (28:34, paraphrase)
  "Borders are where bad ideas end and good ideas begin." (33:27)

• Steve Deace:
  "Worldview is destiny and no one can rise above their worldview." (13:26)
  "Meekness is power under control." (24:28)
  "Everything other than explicitly what the word of God says we cannot do to win—we're going to do everything else. Those are the new rules of engagement." (25:22)
  "For 1200 years, there was no nation on earth called Israel, but we still had Islam." (71:01)

• Tom Homan:
  "What happened to Charlie broke my heart. I believe what he was doing is a big part of saving this country." (36:38)
  "Attacks against ICE officers is up over a thousand percent... The hate is based on a lot of false negative rhetoric being pushed by Congress, the media..." (42:31)

Additional Memorable Moments

• Charlie’s “Go Hard” Mantra:
  Steve Deace recounts Charlie’s backstage advice: "Go hard." (03:19). This has become a guiding inspiration for his friends, and Deace even had a custom shirt made as a tribute.

• Audience Reaction to Charlie:
  Multiple times, correspondence and stories are shared about how Charlie inspired a return to higher standards (08:49–09:20; 17:35), including dressing up for church and expecting more from oneself.

• Cultural Satire:
  The show lampoons the modern “pastoral uniform”: Hawaiian shirts, sweater vests, and the “third tablet the Lord forgot to give Moses…Thou must be nice in all things no matter what.” (17:35)

• Deep Dive into Theology:
  The section on Christian views of Israel (62:03–67:06, 66:08) is a high-level summary of historical debate, acknowledging there are many camps, with Steve and Charlie both advocating for a robust, informed, and united Christian response to contemporary threats.

Useful for Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode is packed with rich reflections and practical prescriptions on faith, politics, and culture. It offers a unique window into Charlie Kirk’s lasting impact on the conservative youth movement, provides an articulate defense of borders rooted in biblical teaching, and offers sober warnings—and hope—about America's trajectory and the necessity of bold, truth-proclaiming action. The balance between tribute and call-to-action makes it a must-listen for the movement’s faithful and the simply curious alike.

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:56–05:00: Reflections and legacy of Charlie Kirk
• 10:22–15:23: Iowa superintendent immigration scandal
• 18:41–22:30: Military standards and institutional decline
• 24:23–28:03: Political power, the passive church, and new rules of engagement
• 28:20–34:03: Biblical case for borders, nations, and assimilation
• 36:12–39:43: Tom Homan's tribute to Charlie and frontline perspective
• 41:02–48:18: Violence against ICE, media distortions, and Portland riots
• 59:13–64:01: Charlie’s letter to Bibi and Israel’s place in Christian prophecy
• 69:15–72:41: Rise of Islam in the West, demographic observations
• 72:41–73:10: Closing tributes, recaps, and next steps

In sum:
The episode stands as both a moving eulogy for Charlie Kirk and a rousing call to action, urging listeners to reclaim virtue, wield moral and civic power, champion clear Biblical principles, and steel themselves against the corrupted tides of modern culture.