“Chasing Pirates” in Minnesota: Exposing the Tim Walz Fraud ft. Nick Shirley

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The Charlie Kirk Show

Episode: “Chasing Pirates” in Minnesota: Exposing the Tim Walz Fraud ft. Nick Shirley
Date: December 30, 2025
Host(s): Andrew Colvett (interim), Blake Neff (co-host, remote)
Guest(s): Tricia McLaughlin (Assistant Secretary, DHS), Nick Shirley (independent journalist)

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the explosive Medicaid and daycare fraud scandal in Minnesota, with a special spotlight on massive taxpayer-funded fraudulent activity linked to Somali-run businesses. Host Andrew Colvett, with co-host Blake Neff, dives into the details with DHS’s Tricia McLaughlin and the independent journalist who brought the scandal to viral prominence, Nick Shirley. The discussion focuses on the investigation’s bread crumb trail, the potential political and social fallout for Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, and what the scandal means for immigration, public benefits, and government accountability nationwide.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Minnesota's Fraud Scandal and Federal Response

Guest: Tricia McLaughlin, Assistant Secretary, Department of Homeland Security

• Magnitude of the Scandal

  • Federal investigators are going door to door at suspected fraud sites, scrutinizing daycares and healthcare businesses that are funneling millions in public funds under false pretenses.

    "Homeland Security investigators are going door to door to these suspected fraud sites, ... to get more information and to make sure we're following the money here." — Tricia McLaughlin, [03:13]

• Operation Twin Shields

  • Ongoing ICE operation in Minneapolis has resulted in the arrest of about 500 illegal aliens, many of Somali origin, alongside another 1,000 USCIS immigration fraud cases (about 50% confirmed as fraud).

    "We've arrested about 500 illegal aliens, many of which are from the Somalian population." — Tricia McLaughlin, [03:30]

• Denaturalization as a Tool

  • The Trump administration is focusing on auditing citizenships, especially for those who may have acquired them via fraudulent means.

    "If someone was engaging in widespread fraud from when they arrived, that would seem like a valid grounds to say giving you citizenship was a mistake..." — Blake Neff, [04:12]

• Nationwide Implications

  • Similar fraud patterns are emerging in other Somali population centers such as Columbus, Ohio, Washington State, and California, making Minnesota a “blueprint” for nationwide investigations.

    "I think you're gonna see that Minnesota is a blueprint for what's going to happen nationwide." — Tricia McLaughlin, [06:35]

• Data Sharing Rulings

  • Legal changes now permit Medicaid data sharing with ICE, enhancing investigation capabilities and threatening exposure of states complicit in fraud.

    "If they're in the country illegally, it helps us to really target these people and remove them from the country." — Tricia McLaughlin, [07:57]

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2. Media, Political, & Social Fallout

Hosts: Andrew Colvett & Blake Neff

• Media Backlash & ‘Stand Your Ground’ Hysteria

  • Discussion on Politico reporter Josh Gerstein’s controversial suggestion that anti-fraud activists could be endangered by ‘stand your ground’ laws while knocking on suspicious business locations.

    "They think stand your ground is a magical thing that lets you just shoot anyone for any reason. And no, it's never worked that way." — Blake Neff, [11:15]

  • Commentary on mainstream media’s hostility towards whistleblowers and the broader erosion of journalistic ethics.

    "Instead of supporting exposing this... he says, when you expose fraud, you should kill these people. You should shoot them. This is insane." — Andrew Colvett, [13:00]

• Political Maneuvers & Backlash

  • Notes on anticipated Democratic efforts to resist accountability; Rep. Swalwell and Pelosi’s plans to retaliate against President Trump and his Cabinet if power shifts.

    "They're going to try and grab headlines... It's a testament to the Trump administration of just how effective they are." — Andrew Colvett, [14:40]

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3. Nick Shirley's Investigation: Chasing Pirates

Guest: Nick Shirley, Independent Journalist [Interview Segment Begins 17:08]

• Background & Methods

  • Nick Shirley, with the support of local figure “David,” exposed fraudulent daycare operations, amplifying years of local sleuthing.

    “I was super happy to be able to amplify his voice and his work that he's been able to do and with my work as well.” — Nick Shirley, [18:08]

• Staggering Scale of the Fraud

  • Nick believes up to $9 billion has been funneled fraudulently, suspecting high-level political complicity.

    "I think $9 billion is a lot of money. And so if the governor is knowing that all this money is going out… the governor should know about $9 billion being sent to these welfare programs." — Nick Shirley, [22:21]

• Demographics and the ‘Voting Bloc’ Factor

  • Neighborhoods in Minneapolis now overwhelmingly Somali; welfare dependency is rampant, and local politicians are accused of enabling fraud to secure votes.

    "Like 95% in certain neighborhoods throughout Minneapolis... 81% of the population, the small population here in Minnesota lives off of welfare." — Nick Shirley, [23:12]

• Pushback, Security Concerns, and Media Smears

  • After the expose went viral, Nick Sherly faced significant personal risk, including doxxing of family members and hostile press attention.

    "Right now I have security with me... people are doxing like me. They're doxing like members of my family." — Nick Shirley, [27:07]

• Reactions from the Community

  • Flood of positive messages from Minnesotans grateful for the exposure of fraud and demanding accountability.

    "Everyone's thankful that this fraud is being exposed. Nobody wants their money going to fraudulent businesses." — Nick Shirley, [25:41]

• Governor Tim Walz's Response & Accusations of Racism

  • Governor Walz accuses Trump administration of white supremacy and scapegoating in response to the probe.

    “He doesn't know what to do because he knows the fraud's catching up. …And then he's gonna blame the white man. Like what's he thinking?” — Nick Shirley, [24:47]

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4. Broader Lessons & Policy Takeaways

Hosts & Panel

• Immigration & Welfare Debate

  • Calls for tighter scrutiny — or outright rejection — of immigration streams that immediately require extensive welfare, suggesting “just deport, deport, deport.”

    "We just shouldn't do this in the first place with people that we're bringing from the other side of the world. If they need infinite welfare... they probably just shouldn't be here in the first place." — Blake Neff, [28:53]

• Accountability & Legal Obstacles

  • Hosts and guests are skeptical on whether Minnesota officials (like Walz or AG Keith Ellison) will ever face real prosecution, cautioning that political solutions may be more feasible than legal ones, and that the real task is to expose and end fraudulent practices.

    “When people just bellow that they want someone arrested… Sometimes our side goes off a little half cocked. I think the most important thing is actually getting the fraud itself.” — Blake Neff, [34:08]

• Minnesota’s Future: Bleeding Taxpayers

  • Discussion of Minnesota’s outmigration of “productive citizens” due to political and financial mismanagement.

    “Minnesota is a state that it's absolutely bleeding. Anyone who's a taxpayer, anyone who's a functional member of society...” — Blake Neff, [35:45]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Tricia McLaughlin on Government Complicity:

  “These states… are so afraid [to release data] because it's going to show that they were culpable, that they knew that this fraud was occurring and not only let it occur, but enabled it.” [08:37]

• Nick Shirley on Community Impact:

  “Nobody wants their money going to fraudulent businesses like daycares or even having the potential to be wired off to Somalia. Our money should stay here inside the United States, especially if it's tax dollars.” [25:41]

• On the Immigration-Welfare Nexus:

  “81% of the small [Somali] population here in Minnesota lives off of welfare. These people have four wives and they run these daycare companies. I doubt they're paying the wives. And so then those wives are able to also claim welfare while they're receiving millions of dollars from the government.” — Nick Shirley, [23:17]

• Political Evasion Patterns:

  “Anything he doesn't like he's just going to instantly shut it down by pointing and screaming racist. And the sad thing is it's Minnesota, so it might work.” — Blake Neff, [25:06]

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• [03:13] Tricia McLaughlin describes on-the-ground federal investigations in Minnesota.
• [06:35] “Minnesota is a blueprint” — plans for nationwide expansion of the anti-fraud probe.
• [07:57] Medicaid data sharing ruling and exposure of Democratic state complicity.
• [13:00] Hosts critique mainstream media's stance on whistleblowing via the ‘stand your ground’ scare.
• [17:08] Nick Shirley joins the show; explains how the investigation unfolded.
• [22:21] Nick lays out the $9B scale and direct challenge to Governor Walz's knowledge.
• [23:12] Demographic and welfare statistics from Nick's field work in Minneapolis.
• [24:14] Clip of Tim Walz denouncing the federal investigation as “white supremacy.”
• [27:07] Nick explains increased security needs due to doxxing and threats.
• [34:08] Reality check on likelihood of top-level prosecutions; advice for residents.

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Summary & Utility

This episode is a comprehensive and emotionally charged breakdown of what the hosts and guests characterize as an unprecedented level of systemic welfare fraud rooted in immigration abuses, specifically in Minnesota's Somali community. Combining investigative journalism, federal law enforcement insight, and sharp political analysis, it unpacks the mechanics of the fraud, the blowback against those exposing it, the accountability gap in state politics, and the broader policy implications for the entire country.

If you’re looking to understand the genesis, impact, and future trajectory of the Minnesota daycare/Medicaid fraud scandal — and what it means for debates on immigration, welfare, and Democratic accountability — this episode offers a detailed, insider perspective from both the government and on-the-ground journalists who made the story viral.

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Transcript

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All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this show, joined by Blake Neff, who is. He is in an undisclosed location in South Dakota.

[C]

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[B]

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Is like a featureless wall in my bedroom.

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[C]

Maybe I am.

[B]

If. Yeah, blink twice. It's called Family Vacations. Family Holidays. Exactly. We're going to load up with this Minnesota story. It's just. It's so big, it's so important because I think it's going to unlock a lot of other storylines that we're going to see play out in 2026. Here to get us started is the great Tricia McLaughlin, Assistant Secretary of Department of Homeland Security. She is calling in Tricia. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

[D]

Andrew, thanks so much for having me.

[C]

Thank you for joining us. We were discussing it really all month, this story out of Minnesota with the Somalis. It started with talking about. It was coverage of the autism centers, talking about Medicaid fraud, talking about all sorts of stuff. But now it's really gone ultra viral. And we'll have them on later in the show. And Nick Shirley knocking on the doors of some daycares. People becoming really aware of that there's dozens, hundreds of these daycares with supposedly hundreds of children at them, getting millions of taxpayer dollars. Some of them may not exist at all. Some of them may be massively exaggerating how many services they provide. This has really become it's gone insanely viral. I think Nick Shirley's video is around 100, 120 million views at this point. It's gotten, it's become this symbol, I think, for a lot of the right and really the wider America of the downsides of immigration. And it's been getting a lot of attention now from the Trump administration, from DOJ and your own dhs. So how about you tell our listeners what's been going on as a result of that?

[D]

Absolutely, and thank you for having me. So right now on the ground in Minneapolis, Homeland Security investigators are going door to door to these suspected fraud sites, whether it be daycare centers or health care centers and businesses around them as well, to get more information and to make sure we're following the money here. And we bring arrests and prosecutions and ultimately removals. But if you, you rewind a couple of months. While this is HSI, which is part of ICE on the ground, we've also had an ongoing ICE operation for the past two months, Operation Twin Shields. We've arrested about 500 illegal aliens, many of which are from the Somalian population. But as well, there's been an ongoing USCIS immigration fraud investigation. We've had about 1,000 cases there so far, and about half of which we've found fraud.

[C]

Yeah. There's this word that has been making the rounds on X and other venues, and that word is denaturalization. And for those who don't know, that would refer to basically removing citizenship from somebody who had gained citizenship before. And America does that very, very rarely. But it's getting brought up, especially in relation to these fraud cases, because if someone was engaging in widespread fraud from when they arrived, that would seem like a valid grounds to say giving you citizenship was a mistake and you should be removed. Has there been any progress on that front? Do you have anything you can tell us there?

[D]

Yeah. So President Trump really, since the start of his administration, but then really became a focus following the terrorist attack against the two National Guardsmen out of Washington right ahead of Thanksgiving. There was really a focus on auditing those who have come into our country, whether they have had become citizens, come in through visas or green cards, particularly for these 19 countries of concern. So that's something that President Trump has made a major focus is these people sure. Did they come the legal way we're looking at it? We're looking at, do they come under fraudulent circumstances, exploiting the system? Did they lie on their applications? Those are all things that would be grounds for denaturalization. So as far as on this specific Somalian front, I don't have a specific update there, but across the board, this is something that we're really auditing and recognizing the massive amount of fraud and abuse that's happened in our legal immigration system.

[B]

Trisha, we are seeing this surge of hsi, all the videos coming out, you mentioned it, but there's other states that are now being highlighted as well. Ohio has a huge Somali population. Columbus, I believe, is the second largest population, Washington State. There is, you know, a lot of allegations that California has a lot of rampant fraud as well. Meanwhile, they're trying to raise a billionaire tax, 5% of, you know, the wealth of billionaires to pay for health care. Meanwhile, all this fraud is happening. Can you hint at some of the plans that are going to be outside of the state of Minnesota as well? Is this going to be nationwide? What can you tell us?

[D]

Yeah, I think you're gonna see that Minnesota is a blueprint for what's going to happen nationwide. I'm actually in Columbus, Ohio as we speak. This is where from and we see a lot of these similar, a lot of it's copy paste or similar networks as far as the potential and suspected crime and fraud that we are seeing. But I think what you're also going to see, and we've started to see this with the FBI and Homeland Security investigations, but you're going to see a lot more action from the Treasury Department and other facets of the US Government that a lot of people, you know, maybe aren't as familiar with as far as tracking this kind of crime and fraud and abuse. We're going to be seeing more and more of that across not just Minnesota, not just Ohio, but across the country.

[B]

Great. And one other question here. So go ahead and put up this political article. Trump Admin can share immigrants Medicaid data with ice. A judge has ruled. Tricia, how big of a ruling is this and what kind of, you know, what are you gonna, what do you expect to find here? And why did 21 blue states sue the Trump administration to block them getting this information? I was credibly informed that immigrants, illegals do not get, do not get Medicaid.

[D]

How many times were we told that over and over and over again? I think that this is a very first of all, it's a good sign. But because we also have similar case with the IRS, the Trump administration, I think I was in the first administration and this administration far more than under Trump 45. We are doing much better at sharing information across agencies and that it makes us a lot more efficient so that we can root out this fraud and also identify those who are on the books, who are getting Medicaid, are there public benefits. And if they're in the country illegally, it helps us to really target these people and remove them from the country. So we've also are working on sharing IRS data, but of course, we're told time and time again that this is something that's not happening, this fraud and exploitation isn't occurring. But it is. And I think part of the reason that these states and these politicians are so afraid is it's going to show that they were culpable, that they knew that this fraud was occurring and not only let it occur, but enabled it.

[B]

Wow, that's, that's a big, a big storyline. We actually had Harmeet Dhillon on yesterday talking about what it would look like to indict a sitting governor, say Tim Waltz. But I have a feeling that as we go down this rabbit hole, we're going to find a lot of elected officials. We're culpable and complicit. Trisha McLaughlin, thank you for joining us. I know you've been traveling, so thanks for making the time. We appreciate it.

[D]

Andrew, thanks so much.

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[C]

Yes, go ahead and read it. Stand your ground laws remove the duty to retreat from a threat when a person is in a place they have a legal right to be. Knocking on the door of a supposedly public business does not constitute a threat. So stand your ground could not be invoked as a defense. Now I have a few thoughts on that and it's pretty remarkable. First of all, it's amazing to see I've been around for a while, I'm a bit older than a lot of our, you know, turning point base. So I of course remember the infamous Trayvon Martin George Zimmerman case. And I think that legitimately drove the left insane on this topic where they it's like the joke. They just refused to understand the core concept because they were so angry that George Zimmerman was able to defend himself from a guy bashing his head into the pavement. And now they think stand your ground is a magical thing that lets you just shoot anyone for any reason. And no, it's never worked that way. It's definitely and I think that the Zimmerman case didn't even apply to as a stand your ground one was normal self defense. So it shows their continuing thing. But the darker thing here that I think is worth highlighting is what this clearly gets at and I don't know and Gerstein seems to be manifesting it, but definitely other people are is like the left really does have this dark desire. They whatever the law is, they really want somebody to get shot in the face while doing this. They badly want it to take place. And that's how you end up posting stuff like this.

[B]

Yeah, I mean think about what so Nick Shirley helps expose. I mean he sort of popularized what had already been exposed, which is an important piece of any puzzle. So you have to understand that. So I mean I used to talk about this with Charlie all the time. You know, our job was to sort of popularize things that were important for people to know there's people doing good reporting out there. It needs to get out there. And sometimes that's the job of shows like this and that's why we try and highlight good reporting. So good reporting happens. Nick Shirley helps blow the lid on this massive fraud scandal that's plaguing our nation to the tune of billions and billions of dollars in Medicare and Medicaid fraud. And instead of supporting exposing this, a reporter who is let me get this title exactly right. The Senior Legal Affairs REPORTER FOR Politico Prior ABC White House and China Correspondent, CNN so instead of supporting this, he says, when you expose fraud, you should kill these people. You should shoot them. This is insane. This is why the mainstream news media has lost so much standing in the minds of the American population. Absolutely incredible thing to conclude that you're in the business of exposing corruption. If you are a reporter, that is essentially your core job and function. So Nick Shirley exposes corruption and fraud, and this guy suggests that he should be shot in a stand your ground law, which doesn't. And by the way. And you even get it wrong. You're a legal affairs reporter and you get the law wrong. I mean, the whole thing is just absolutely asinine, and it's absolutely. It's hard to believe that this is, like, the state of American journalism.

[C]

Well, it's funny, too, because, like, they're speculating this about public businesses and Washington Post reporters will just show up and knock on the door of your house to harass you. A fact I know because Eric Wemple of the Washington Post did that to my house once in 2020. Like, disgusting people.

[B]

Yeah, it's a pretty remarkable thing to watch happen. But this is why you have to understand how much pushback that President Trump is getting, how much pushback the Trump administration is getting. The fact that Eric Swalwell and Nancy Pelosi are already talking about what they're gonna do to President Trump and his Cabinet if they get power back in the house in 2026, they're already going to impeach him. They're going to investigate, they're going to try and impeach Cabinet members. All this to gum up the works. They know they're not going to be able to remove these people, but they're going to try and make their lives miserable. And that's the whole point. They're going to try and grab headlines. This is why Trump is, you know, the base is. You know, they want results now. They want more indictments, they want more prosecutions. I fully understand that. I sympathize with that. I'm told much more is underway and in the works. But you have to look at what they are doing. When good people do good work and good journalism, when the administration moves the country in the right direction, when the ship is getting righted as it is right now, Rome wasn't built in a day, but this is why they fight him. It's a testament to the Trump administration of just how effective they are. If you just look at how terrible they've been treated how they are still, how Trump and the administration are still viewed as existential threats to the Democratic Party. Everyone has a perspective shaped by what they've lived, what they've learned, and what they believe. Charlie always appreciated TikTok because it shared our values of connecting and building community. On TikTok, you can find a teacher discussing math in a way that makes it click. A dad sharing a lifetime of knowledge with his viewers. Or a gardener showing how patience and care can turn a patch of dirt into. Into something alive. Ordinary people doing extraordinary things and showing others how it's done. TikTok is a space where voices can find each other and no voice is too small. That's what's really special about TikTok. Even the quiet voices can hold great wisdom. Unexpected voices can make a big difference. Finding them and sharing your own voice, that's what builds a community. Because when everyone has a voice, we can all learn something. And when we all keep learning, we can all move forward. On TikTok and you can find voices worth hearing and stories worth sharing.

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We are very fortunate to have the man behind the biggest story in the country for the last couple of days. That is Nick Shirley, independent journalist. He's doing amazing work. Nick, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. And I have to tell you that you and I want our audience to know you were the last live guest on the Charlie Kirk show before the news happened on 9, 10. And so sort of a tragic reminder, but I'm just so pleased to see how well you're doing and it brings us all joy to see the good work that you're doing in Minneapolis and beyond.

[E]

Thank you. It's been a crazy past few days as we've been uncovering what could potentially be one of the largest fraud scandals in American history out here. Minnesota.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely. And you know, you call it chasing pirates. I have to ask you, how did you get turned onto this story in the first place? Nick?

[E]

Well, I've known about the fraud taking place for a very long time, ever since last June I made my first visit to Minnesota, kind of documenting how what's been happening inside of the state. And then a lot of the locals were telling me about the fraud that was taking place within the daycares. They also have their houses where they're running home healthcare businesses out of. But I could never, I couldn't dedicate the time to be able to get all the information with everything else I have to do with my YouTube channel and so I was very fortunate when this man by the name of David reached out to me, and me and him were able to collaborate and he was able to go out and get the numbers as he's been looking into this fraud for years now. So it was a joint effort and I was super happy to be able to amplify his voice and his work that he's been able to do and with my work as well.

[B]

Yeah. Tell us more about David. Who is he and how do people follow him, Follow his work as well? I was trying to look around. I didn't see much on him.

[E]

He's just a local legend, just plain and simple. He's a lifelong local legend in Minnesota, and we have to keep him pretty. Can't say too much about him because people are even recognizing him out in places, and I don't want anything to happen to David. So he's just a local legend that cares a lot about his city, wants the best for his city, and is sick of seeing American pirates steal money from hardworking, taxpaying citizens here.

[B]

Yeah, that's amazing. So, Nick, first question, second question, rather, is what has it been like to see the Attorney General of the United States tagging you in post? The FBI is responding. Did you have any inkling when you were doing this investigation that it had this potential?

[E]

I knew it had a lot of potential, and I'm super happy to see how people are reacting to it now. And it's also very sad to see how people are trying to, like, justify the fraud. It's pretty hilarious, actually. But it's actually amazing how the Trump administration, because this is a great opportunity for them to go in and really show people, okay, we're paying attention. Like, what do you.

[C]

What do you make?

[E]

And it did more than all other mainstream networks in one day.

[C]

What do you make of this Washington Post reporter? I'm sure you saw this where he. He suggested that you deserve to have someone pull a stand your ground on you because you show up at these businesses.

[E]

Well, I never tried to go inside of any of the businesses. I never forced my way into any of the businesses. I simply just asked if I could enroll a child. Just like a typical operation, like just a typical operation that a parent would go to one of these daycare centers. So I wasn't putting in force or anything. I was simply just asking, can I put my son Joey into daycare? And they could answer that question.

[B]

Well, yeah, I think that's.

[C]

People are noticing the quality leering thing, but I think that is actually probably the Best. The best part of the montage for me is when you just ask, can I enroll a child here? And the person immediately responds, why?

[E]

Yeah. It's, like, so obvious. And the whole thing with the Quality Learning center, too, it's hilarious because while Somalis were busing in children that the commissioner of, I think one of the Department of Children or something, she was on a live stream at the same time talking about how they closed the daycare a week ago. So they had the Somalis busting in children trying to cover up. Meanwhile, the lady who's in charge is saying, they closed the daycare a week ago. Meanwhile, the video had been filmed more than a week ago. So. And I posted the original video of me outside the daycare about a week ago. And then I was able to produce the entire documentary when I was at home for Christmas.

[B]

Nick, you've been pretty loud on your social media about the fact that you think Tim Waltz needs to be held accountable for this. What in your reporting has led you to believe that the complicity here or culpability goes all the way up to the top in the state of Minnesota?

[E]

I think $9 billion is a lot of money. And so if the governor is knowing that all this money is going out, I think the governor should know about $9 billion being sent to these welfare programs and these other businesses fraudulently. And then there's nobody at the businesses.

[B]

Yeah. In these neighborhoods. Nick, you made some comment. I think it was on Fox News where you were saying that this whole racket is kept alive by the fact that these politicians need the Somalian votes. At this point, they've become a huge voting block within the state of Minnesota. When you're walking through these neighborhoods on the ground, what percentage of the population does it feel like is Somalian? Are these neighborhoods almost entirely Somalian now? They've kind of moved in. Or is it 50? 50? What's it feel like?

[E]

Like 95% in certain neighborhoods throughout Minneapolis.

[B]

Wow.

[E]

Especially in, like, areas like Cedar Riverside. I mean, a lot of these apartment complexes. I said on Fox, but a lot of these apartment complexes, white people. White people. And anybody who's not Somalian have been pushed out of these apartment complexes because they claim that people are Islamophobic or racist. And they're able to get the landlords to then kick them out because of those claims. And so you have entire apartment complexes that are full of Somali people. They're not even making money. 81% of the population, the small population here in Minnesota lives off of welfare. These people have four wives and they run these daycare companies. I doubt they're paying the wives. And so then those wives are able to also claim welfare while they're receiving millions of dollars from the government. It's a huge. It's like the roots are deep in this fraud.

[B]

Yeah, I'm gonna play a clip from Tim Waltz here, Nick, and have you respond to it where he's accusing the Trump admin of white supremacy. 120.

[A]

This is what happens when your own federal government wages war against you. This is what happens when they target communities for their own benefit. This is what happens when they scapegoat. And this is what happens when they no longer hide the idea of white supremacy. When you hear the Vice President of the United States talk about now white people won't have to apologize for being white. That's never happened once in my whole damn life. And I think everybody in this room knows what they're doing. So we're here today to say enough of this. We're here today to stand that Minnesota will protect their neighbors.

[B]

Nick is in total panic.

[E]

Yeah, go ahead and walk in total panic. He's in total panic right now. He doesn't know what to do because he knows the fraud's catching up. He's trying to run for reelection. Meanwhile, he's probably trying to decide whether or not he should resign to try not take accountability for what's happening. And then he's gonna blame the white man. Like what's he thinking?

[C]

It really. Tim Walls always strikes me as he's like a time warp from 2015 or 2017. There's just this type of person and he's that type of person where anything he doesn't like he's just going to instantly shut it down by pointing and screaming racist. And the sad thing is it's Minnesota, so it might work. Have you heard anything, have you heard anything from locals in Minnesota who've reached out to you or sent you any interesting stories for follow ups or just interesting anecdotes you think might be good to share?

[E]

Oh, I've received thousands of messages from people in Minnesota. Everyone's thankful that this fraud is being exposed. Nobody wants their money going to fraudulent businesses like daycares or even having the potential to be wired off to Somalia. Our money should stay here inside the United States, especially if it's tax dollars.

[B]

Yep. Yep. Nick, what are you planning on doing next? Nick, can you give us a hint of what you're. What you're currently working on? Are you going to stay on the fraud Beat.

[E]

There's a lot of fraud happening here in Minnesota. So I have a part two coming out very soon of the fraud because there's a whole other layer of that that we weren't even able to put into this first video. And so we're working on that as well.

[B]

Wow. Nick, I hope you're staying safe. We have the URL down there, Blackline Guardian Fund, obviously here on this show, the Charlie Kirk show, We take that very seriously. And please, if you're watching this and you want to support Nick's work, help him with his security. It's really, really important. Blacklineguardianfund.com Please, please, please consider giving Nick some backing. He's gotta stay safe out there. And now his profile is larger than ever. So Nick, if you wanna just mention that and has. Has your ability to do your work on the ground, has it changed given just how much your profile has increased?

[E]

Yeah, it's changed exponentially. So with that black line Guardian, it's actually really cool because it's just a, essentially a non profit that Officer Tatum set up a while back. And all the funds go directly to me. So, like right now I have security with me. And it's because of that. And it's essential because people are, I mean, people are doxing like me. They're doxing like members of my family. And so it's like actually very worrisome. Like, like some Indian, Indian newspaper did a whole entire article doxing my family yesterday. I was like, what the heck?

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

And I don't put in my family anything really. Like, so it's very, it's like sad. It's like. Are you serious? Well, I never wanted to have. To have.

[B]

Yeah, no, as Nick, I can say, as somebody who's lived through doxxing in the recent months, it's pretty terrible experience. And when the family gets involved, when they start targeting family members, it's awful. So again, please stay safe. Nick. We can't wait for part two. I know you gotta run because you're chasing pirates right now. You're on the road, so, you know, God bless you. Stay safe and thanks for making the time coming on the show.

[E]

Of course. Thank you, guys.

[B]

Yeah. And you know, thanks for being the last live guest on the show on 9 10, which is. It's pretty creepy, but in some ways fitting seeing the great things that you're doing now. So, you know, the baton is passed to a lot of people and you're one of them, Nick. So Godspeed, my friend.

[E]

Thank you. We need to carry on the legacy.

[B]

Yeah, man.

[E]

God bless you guys.

[B]

Bye. Bye. See ya, Nick. Shirley. He's out literally right now. We were gonna do video and he calls me and he goes, hey, I can't do it because I'm out chasing pirates. Can I do a call in?

[C]

You know, I just want to throw out this point that I think is very important, which it's good for us to expose the fraud that's going on with these daycare and Medicaid things. But also, we just shouldn't do this in the first place with people that we're bringing from the other side of the world. If they need Infinite Welfare for Medicaid, for daycare, for everything, they probably just shouldn't be here in the first place.

[B]

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[B]

Blake, we're getting lots of positive emails about Nick Schur. I think this a lot of people.

[C]

Yeah, really like him. We've got, you know, what a hero keep on this story we have. Thank you for inviting Nick. This kid in quotes is an American hero. I guess, you know, he probably isn't a kid. Kyrie says. Hey guys, thanks for having Nick Shirley on the show and sharing the way we can help him stay safe. In addition to prayers, of course, so glad he has security. My family has been concerned. We just got a bunch of those. I think we got about 8 to 10 just in the span of that segment. So if you guys like a segment, definitely let us know at Freedom. And we'll be doing a year in review just up ahead. So if you have thoughts about Charlie and your favorite moments of the past year, of course, before the tragedy, be sure to send those in and we'll give a look at those.

[B]

Yeah. [e-mail] I want to. As we're playing back the year in retrospective, I want to be reading a lot of your emails, so please. Freedomarliekirk.com, freedomarliekirk.com and what a year it's been. It's been a terrible year. It's been a tragic year. We've seen miracles. We've seen God's provision in the midst of a terrible, terrible storm. And so. And you guys in the audience have been a huge part of that. Your support. I mean, when we went to Amfest, Blake, I actually didn't get to confer with you on this, but at amfest, it was. I think I was honest with the audience. I said I wasn't really looking forward to it this year. I was kind of dreading it because it was the first one without Charlie. And then I went in kind of, because I had to, honestly. And you guys gave me so much love and support and encouragement, and I'm sure, Blake, you experienced that, too. The Prove me wrong was huge, and the members podcast room was huge, and those episodes are dropping, so it's been amazing for your support. All right, so, Blake, I was reflecting on Amfest and all the love we got. Did you get some attention there, Blake? This is new for you. A little bit.

[C]

A little bit. I would always say stop and take photos with people. I think that's a. That's a good rule Charlie gave me. If someone wants to take a photo with you, always say yes. I think that's a good principle to follow. I had to wear my. My blue blazer three days in a row, which might have stank a bit by the end, but I only have one. I only have one notable blazer. I'm not gonna wear some normal suit. That'd be lame.

[B]

You know, Blake, I missed a good Christmas present for you. I should have got you a gift card to Macy's so you could. No, no, you can't have.

[C]

You can't just buy a copy of the blazer.

[B]

That's not going to get you it doesn't work. Don't get the same one. I'm just, I'm, you know, I'm suggesting maybe branch out a little bit. We're going to get your, your glow up going on here soon Blake. There's a clip here though I want to play and of course I misplaced it. 134 Tim Wall saying there's organized crime in Minnesota. What did he do about it? Nothing.

[D]

You got organized crime.

[C]

What do you.

[D]

What are you doing?

[B]

This is the Minnesota law which mandates that anyone who knows of fraud and.

[D]

Is a state employee must report that fraud. It's Minnesota Statute 3.971 Subdivision 9.

[B]

Not only that but Walz is also guilty of misconduct of a public employee. All right Blake, you're the contrarian. We had Harmeet Dylan on yesterday. Everybody is calling for Tim Waltz's to either resign or they want an indictment. This stuff takes time. There's no doubt. You gotta build a case that is actually will hold up in court. What as a contrarian as a little bit of a pump the brakes on the legal side. What do you think the odds are that we get some actual accountability at the top levels of the Minnesota government?

[C]

Oh low probably they might try it. But I think the one trouble is, I'll be honest is when people just bellow that they want someone arrested sometimes let's be, let's be real. Our side sometimes goes off a little half cocked. I think the most important thing is actually getting the fraud itself which is all these daycares which is all these facilities. If you are going to get someone at the top I think the best shot would be Keith Ellison. Keith Ellison is clearly this sinister figure. He's very clearly a radical. He is dishonest. I mean he did that whole posing with the Antifa Handbook in 2020. He's a lunatic I think and also I just don't think he's that smart. Overall I think he's probably your best shot if you were going to bring down a major person. But it's going to be tough because in the end a lot of this comes down to a traditional norm. We have prosecutorial discretion. They knew this was going on and they just chose not to stop it. And the sad thing is there's not that much you can do in if someone, if they're not directly benefiting from the crime. They just don't care that it's happening because they like the people committing it. It's just like the police forces who let the rioter, you know they abandoned a Minneapolis police precinct and let it get burned down. They let rioters just terrorize people. That stuff is morally abhorrent, it's completely evil. But it traditionally at least is not something we normally prosecute as a crime, perhaps because it's basically unthinkable.

[B]

And.

[C]

I guess I would just warn people the best way to make them accountable for this is to make sure we have a good campaign for governor in Minnesota and try to unseat him. And failing that, probably the best thing you can do if you're a Minnesota resident is get out. I know that's a frustrating piece of advice, but it's. If you look at the numbers, Minnesota is a state that it's absolutely bleeding. Anyone who's a taxpayer, anyone who's a functional member of society, the left in Minnesota is going all in on we should import as many refugees as possible, we should admit as many parasites as possible, and we should wage war on anyone who's functional, who is law abiding, who is a person you would want in your state. And we're seeing the outcomes of that.

[B]

Yeah. I didn't realize they were having a net outflow of productive citizens.

[C]

One of the worst. They're like. They're like New York or California in terms of driving out people.

[B]

No kidding. And that's really sad. Minnesota's historically been a pretty functioning state despite being a left wing state.

[C]

Yes, they used to be one of the best, we have to admit it. And now they're not. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.

[B]

Com.