Day One of Amfest + The Target Freedom Shirt Patriot

Summary

The Charlie Kirk Show

Episode: Day One of AmFest + The Target Freedom Shirt Patriot
Date: December 18, 2025
Host: Charlie Kirk, co-hosts, Libby Emmons (Editor-in-Chief, Post Millennial & Human Events)
Theme: The opening day of Turning Point USA’s AmericaFest (AmFest), unity in the conservative movement, culture war anecdotes (notably, the Target “Freedom Shirt” story), and developing news on a controversial campus shooting.

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Overview

This episode kicks off AmFest 2025, painting it as both a celebration for grassroots conservatives and a momentous reunion for a movement grappling with internal divisions and the recent loss of Charlie Kirk. The hosts preview the event, discuss practical activism, comment on the unifying power of in-person events, and dig into stories from the broader culture war. A particular focus is devoted to the viral incident of a Target employee harassed for wearing a Charlie Kirk shirt, followed by a tense discussion on the handling of a recent campus shooting at Brown University. The episode closes with reflections on conservative coalition-building in the post-Charlie era.

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Main Segments & Timestamps

1. The Heart and Purpose of AmFest

[01:09–05:22]

• Unifying the Movement:
  The hosts reflect on AmFest's role in uniting a divided conservative movement. Despite ideological squabbles ("Blake, you would occupy one lane. I'd probably be in a slightly different." [03:10]) the aim is a greater sense of family and North Star focus.

  "When you have an event that gathers everybody together and says, here is our goal... I think magic happens." – Host, [03:57]

• Event Details:
  AMFest is set at the Phoenix Convention Center, with attendance expected in the tens of thousands. Notable guests include Steve Bannon, Megan Kelly, Michael Knowles, Don Jr., and Riley Gaines. Members get exclusive access to live, pre-recorded interviews and Q&As.

• Charlie Kirk’s Legacy:
  The event's spirit is described as carrying forth Charlie's passion—bringing people together to grow and defend American values.

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2. Reflections on Movement Divisions, COVID, and Real-Life Connection

[05:22–06:46]

• Movement Factions:
  The need to bridge divides, especially those flamed by online debates, is emphasized. The hosts share personal anecdotes about disagreements but stress unity through shared purpose.

• AmFest History:
  Discussion on previous AmFests, including the “super spreader” COVID event in 2020, underlining how these gatherings create lasting cross-organizational relationships.

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3. Trump’s Address and the “Venezuela Ropecadope”

[06:46–09:56]

• Expectations vs. Reality:
  Analysis of President Trump’s much-anticipated address, which turned out to focus on domestic policy rather than announcing military action in Venezuela as speculated.

  "The misdirection was intentional... I think this was a stroke of genius and a masterful touch." – Host, [06:54]

• Key Quotes from Trump (Clip Recaps):

  • Tax Cuts:

    “Next year you will also see the results of the largest tax cuts in American history. Many families will be saving between $11,000 and $20,000 a year...” – Trump (paraphrased by hosts), [07:33]

  • National Confidence:

    "Let them see a nation that is loyal to its citizens, faithful to its workers, confident to its identity, certain to its destiny, and the envy of the entire globe.” – Trump (played on show), [08:50]

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4. Reclaiming American Pride

[09:01–11:15]

• Discussion Point:
  The hosts lament an increasing anti-American sentiment on college campuses and its corrosive effect on patriotism.

  "If you don't love your family, you probably won't treat them well. And if you don't love your country, you probably won't treat it well either.” – Co-host, [09:56]

• No Guilt for Being Western or Christian, Straight Male:

  “I struggle with approximately zero white guilt. I struggle with approximately zero guilt of being a western Christian straight male. Zero. I got zero.” – Host, [10:09]

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5. Viral Story: The Target “Freedom Shirt” Patriot

[11:29–17:13]

• Incident:
  A Target employee named Jeannie was confronted at work for wearing a Charlie Kirk Freedom Shirt. The clip of the altercation (“You support a racist” [12:18]) went viral, and Jeannie’s calm, dignified response won public admiration:

  "It's not racist. Okay. Have a nice day. I'm not gonna sit here and argue." – Jeannie, [13:05]

• Community Response:
  A GiveSendGo campaign (spearheaded by Cassandra Fairbanks) raised over $220,000 for Jeannie. Jeannie expressed humility and declined calls for retaliation against the harasser:

  “Two wrongs don't make a right. You know, she wronged me but I don't want to wrong her... I really wouldn't want to see her—somebody lose their job over it." – Jeannie, [14:21]

• Hosts’ Reflections:
  The hosts hail Jeannie as emblematic of the American spirit and attempt to invite her to AmFest:

  “You will accept our love. Let us bless you, you sweet lady.” – Host, [15:49]

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6. Interview: Libby Emmons on the Brown University Shooting

[18:26–36:40]

• Investigation Critique:
  Libby Emmons provides a detailed account of the ongoing investigation into the Brown campus shooting, highlighting stunning lapses:

  • Police haven’t interviewed all students present at the shooting scene, relying instead on email outreach ([24:30]).
  • Confusion over persons of interest, lack of details, and inconsistent communication from law enforcement and university officials.
  • Brown’s lack of transparency and delayed cooperation with police.

  “They have not even interviewed all of the students that were in the classroom at the time of the shooting... Brown has sent out an email to the student, to all students, saying, hey, if you were in this classroom for this study session, let us know so you can talk to police.” – Libby Emmons, [19:05]

• Public Frustration and Transparency:
  Community efforts to crowd-source information have been met with accusations of “doxing,” while officials themselves have not provided clear facts or suspects ([25:46]).

• Potential Motive:
  Unconfirmed but widely reported claims (e.g., from Jack Posobiec) suggested the attack may have targeted Ella Cook, a College Republicans leader. Libby and hosts note that if true, this would inform the investigation’s focus but, so far, there is no confirmation.

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7. Conservative Movement: Unity After Loss

[34:40–37:40]

• Reconstituting the Coalition:
  Libby and the hosts discuss whether AmFest can restore a sense of unity after Charlie Kirk’s death.

  “Charlie had his hands pretty much on everyone... I think it is up to us to continue that legacy by reaching out hands to each other...” – Libby Emmons, [34:40]

• Binary Choice Framing:
  The hosts frame the current political and cultural situation as a stark choice between left-wing (“Mamdaniism, AOCism”) and right-wing (“MAGAism, nationalist, conservative”) futures ([36:32]).

• Historical Perspective:
  Both Libby and the hosts reference a loss of national confidence but share optimism based on the attitude and camaraderie seen among AmFest attendees.

  “We also had this idea, certainly when I was growing up, that this was the greatest country in the world, that it was the greatest empire ever built. We never questioned it. And I think we need to get back to that.” – Libby Emmons, [36:54]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Unity Through Event:
  “When you focus your attention on a North Star… when you come together as one movement… magic happens.” – Host, [03:57]

• Divided Yet United:
  “Every morning I come in and go, hey, what about this? And then Blake says, why? That’s dumb.” – Host, [03:40]

• Jeannie’s Grace:
  “Two wrongs don't make a right. She wronged me but I don't want to wrong her... I really wouldn't want to see her lose her job over it.” – Jeannie, [14:21]

• Culture Critique:
  “If you don't love your country, you probably won't treat it well either.” – Co-host, [09:56]

• On Policing & Diversity:
  “If you care about catching criminals, most of all, you'll catch criminals. If you care about having diversity the most, you'll have a lot of diversity.” – Co-host, [32:07]

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Engaging Takeaways

• AmFest is both a rallying event and an attempt at healing after Charlie Kirk’s death, with a broad focus on grassroots mobilization and forging in-person connections.
• The “Target Freedom Shirt” moment—simple, gracious, and widely supported—became a symbol for the resilience and generosity within the conservative grassroots.
• Ongoing frustration about media, law enforcement, and university transparency in controversial criminal cases is growing, particularly when it comes to perceived political motives.
• The conservative movement is at a crossroads, as described by hosts—either fragmented along old lines, or united by shared purpose in the post-Charlie era.

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For further news, updates, and event streaming, listeners are directed to Real America’s Voice, Rumble, and CharlieKirk.com.

Transcript

[A]

My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You gotta stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Turning Point USA College chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA High School chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life. And I encourage you to do the same. Here I am, Lord.

[B]

Use me.

[A]

Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. The Charlie Kirk show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, the the leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends and viewers.

[B]

All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk show, day one of AM Fest. It's about to get kicked off at the Phoenix Convention center today.

[C]

I'm already. I'm kind of sad we're not in the convention center already.

[B]

I felt the same way. Yeah, I think we made the call earlier in the week because of tech and cruise and where everybody's setting up.

[C]

I think Charlie would have had us be there. Charlie would want.

[B]

Well, he need to be there.

[C]

He would be.

[B]

So Charlie would break glass. I actually don't know. He loved doing the show from this studio. Studio. And it's peaceful, it's contained, it's true. You can gather your thoughts. It is a nice place to do a show from. But I had the same thought this morning because you want to be around the people. And tomorrow we're going to be doing the show live from the convention floor media row at the Real America's Voice booth. So if you are going to be in Phoenix today or tomorrow, meet us there. We're going to come right after Bannon War Room. I might try and get Bannon to do the show with us at the first block of the show. Just do a little handoff there. And then Steve's actually going to come on for the members only lounge. We're going to be doing. Doing an interview with Steve Bannon, many others. Megan Kelly, Michael Knowles, Riley Gaines, I think Don Jr. But don't quote me on that one just yet. Working on schedules, but it's going to be. So we're going to have a packed members lounge so members.charliekirk.com if you want to access that. And you're going to be at the event. It's a really special moment where if you're a member of the Charlie Kirk Show Members Only community, then you get to come in and watch those interviews happen live. They're pre recorded, so nobody else gets to see them. Just you, you, you get to ask questions. So that's happening tonight. Erica Kirk's gonna kick off the event. She's gonna welcome everybody. We have tens of thousands of people coming. I'm just gonna leave it vague. Okay? I'm leaving it vague. Tens of thousands. It's gonna be big. All the major media is gonna be big.

[C]

We got it. We got an email where someone was sending off her teenage kids to go to AmFest at 3:30am from Iowa.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, it's gonna be. It's gonna. There's after parties, there's. I think. I think Knowles is doing like a cigar party, which will be fun. I don't know anything about it other than that, but it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be great. And it's funny. I've already had two interviews this morning with, I would say right of center media, but they were all asking, it's like, well, okay, the movement has been divided. Do you think Amfest can unite it? And my answer is simply, listen, we have a raucous bunch of people that make up the conservative movement. They represent all different factions of the conservative movement. Blake, you would occupy one lane. I'd probably be in a slightly different. We dis on things all the time. Blake's laughing. Yes. Every morning I come in and go, hey, what about this? And then Blake says, why? That's dumb.

[C]

That's dumb.

[B]

That's stupid. But to be fair, you did that with Charlie, too. All the time. All the time. So anyways. But yet we are one big happy family. And when you focus your attention on a North Star, on a. Listen, do you want to live in Mamdani's America? I certainly don't. And while we have a bunch of differences among the factions, when you have an event that gathers everybody together and says, here is our goal. And by the way, that person you think you're in a Twitter fight with over there, they're actually not that terrible of a person. You guys talk it out, things happen, relationships get formed, organizations cross pollinate. You go to the breakout sessions. These events are powerful. Charlie knew that. That's why we put so much of an emphasis on these major conferences at Turning point. Because in real life, experiences are more important than ever. When everybody's so online, when everybody's. You know, they get down these rabbit holes of this debate or this conspiracy theory or whatever, when you come together as one movement and one room and one building, I think magic happens. So that's. That's the prayer. So send your prayers for Amfest. I think it's going to be one of the most important events in recent memory. Certainly, it's going to be our first without Charlie, and that's really sad. But I also know that, you know, Charlie's gonna be there with us in spirit. The whole event is gonna be gathered around sort of his mission and the legacy and the things that he would want us to do. So if you can't make it, it will be right here on Real America's Voice. They're gonna be streaming all the speeches on Real America's Voice. Rumble's gonna be streaming them online, and lots of other things going on. Blake, you. This is gonna be, what, your third? Third Amfest or fourth?

[C]

Fourth.

[B]

Is it your fourth?

[C]

Yes. First one was end of 22.

[B]

Yeah. Well, so you missed the. You missed the COVID Yeah.

[C]

Long before my time.

[B]

Everybody got Covid the first year. Oh, now it's cool to say.

[C]

Do we have to cover that up? Because they. Yeah, we didn't do the whole super spreader event.

[B]

We didn't talk about too much. Everybody got co. I did not get Covid. You know, the first time I got Covid actually was at our other event, which was a super spreader event, which was. That was December 2020. It was before we did AM Fest. We had Student Action Summit in Florida. And I definitely got Covid at that event. So I got the OG Covid at that one. But everybody, you guys need to come check it out. And if you can't make it, then you need to just watch it right here at Real America's Voice or stream it on Rumble. Blake, let's talk about Venezuela. The rope, a dope.

[A]

A dope.

[C]

The rope, a dope. They trolled us pretty hard on that one.

[B]

They trolled us really hard. Everybody thought it was gonna be about Venezuela.

[C]

Yeah. President, if you forget, if you missed it, President Trump said, I will be giving an address to the Nation at 9pm tonight. And I think he even said about things related to my accomplishments this term. I think they did semi announce that, but everyone thought he'd also been hyping up. We had this big armada surrounding Venezuela, and then there were people. Tucker actually said he'd heard from a congressman it was going to be announcing a war. And so you just had a lot of speculation about this. And the result of it was that he's talking at primetime and all the networks and all the news outlets, they bother to cover it because you definitely.

[B]

Want to get it.

[C]

If he's announcing a war and instead he just trots out and talks about his domestic policies for the past year.

[B]

It was a. Listen, I have reason to believe that this was intentional. The misdirection was intentional. The question is, were people like Tucker in on it? I've heard rumors that Tucker knew exactly what he was doing. I've heard rumors that they. Maybe he didn't. I don't know. But anyways, everybody thought that it was going to be about Venezuela and we were going to be invading Venezuela. I was just sitting at my computer going, like, that's going to be fun. Everything about Amfest is now going to be about foreign policy, which is not at all what we wanted to make it. So the fact that this is what ended up happening was, I think, a stroke of genius and a masterful touch. Let's go ahead and play some of these clips. 271.

[D]

Next year you will also see the results of the largest tax cuts in American history. Many families will be saving between 11,000 and $20,000 a year. And next spring is projected to be the largest tax refund season of all time.

[B]

All right, so then he talks about warrior dividends. So every member of our armed forces, there's like 1.45 million of them are going to get 1776.

[C]

1776.

[B]

I mean, hey, listen, it's better than. Better than nothing. I love giving some.

[C]

It's about two and a half billion dollars.

[B]

It's a little bit of the tariff revenue. So looks like that's probably gonna be what the tariff revenue goes to. I mean, there was a spirited debate in the right about whether or not we should use that money to pay down debts, which I think we should. But you know, there is a political incentive to give away free money. Let's just be honest.

[C]

Yeah, there is.

[B]

And so to do it for the men and women in the armed services is actually probably. I could settle with that as a threading the needle move. So I'm okay with that. Let's keep going here.

[D]

293 when the world looks at us next year, let them see a nation that is loyal to its citizens, faithful to its workers, confident to its identity, certain to its destiny, and the envy of the entire globe. We are respected again, like we have never been respected before.

[B]

You know, you said something earlier this week, I think it was with Steve Dase where you said you looked at China and you were like, well, China at least, you know, is proud of itself. And I really believe that this is. When we talk about saving the west, it's talk, it's about restoring our self confidence in the greatness of our cultures and the greatness of our heritage. How much of American life is really on that fulcrum? It pivots on that fulcrum a great deal.

[C]

It's especially just if you look at what really goes around in the discourse in university campuses, in especially a lot of the left, but increasingly on the right too. It's just, it actually frequently is dispirited and anti American. And that's not an attitude that tolerates any sort of sacrifice for the future, sacrifice for the good of the country. If you, if you don't love, if you don't love your family, you probably won't treat them well. And if you don't love your country, you probably won't treat it well either.

[B]

I totally agree with that. I think that is the central, the central, I guess, question of the modern age for the West. Do we believe in ourselves and our culture? Do you believe in your fighting?

[C]

Do you believe in your country existing?

[B]

Or do you believe that you are systemically oppressive and racist and bigoted just for existing? I don't. I struggle with approximately zero white guilt. I struggle with approximately zero guilt of being a western Christian straight male. Zero. I got zero. This Christmas you gotta give the gift of food security to your friends and family with an amazing deal from our friends at my patron supply. It's called Buy one Gift two Christmas Special and you guys have gotta check it out all month long. When you buy an emergency food kit, you'll get two more food kits for free to give as gifts. That. That's right. Get a four week emergency food supply for yourself and they'll throw in two one week food kits absolutely free. The one week kits make perfect gifts for anyone on your list who's into preparedness or anyone who needs a little nudge in that direction. These days, it just makes sense to have some food stored away for emergencies. And with this Buy one gift two Christmas deal, you're not only getting yourself prepared, you're also getting unique and meaningful Christmas gifts for your friends or family. And they're free. So head over to my Patriotsupply.com Kirk and grab yours today. This offer is only around for the holiday season.

[A]

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[B]

Blake. I want to hit this story about this really sweet lady that she works at Target. She's wearing a Charlie Kirk show or a Charlie Kirk shirt. A red one because it's Target. Apparently. You were able to wear a red shirt at Target and she gets verbally accosted by this.

[C]

It's a time traveler from 2020, basically.

[B]

Yeah. It felt like BLM all over. Yeah.

[C]

Just these awful people. Cameras were a mistake.

[B]

And she.

[C]

For a lot of people.

[B]

She posted. I know.

[C]

She posted it herself.

[B]

She posted it. It's a really. Okay, so this story.

[C]

I thought it made her look awesome.

[B]

This story has many twists and turns. Let's go ahead and play the original costing clip. The harassment clip. 222.

[E]

It doesn't have to be.

[F]

It's a Charlie Kirk shirt.

[E]

Yes.

[B]

Oh, yes.

[E]

I know.

[F]

Are you stupid?

[E]

No.

[F]

Why the would you wear that? You're at work at Target. That's not a Target shirt. It's not a plain red shirt. You support a racist.

[E]

I. It's not racist.

[F]

You support a racist.

[E]

He's not a racist.

[B]

Yes, he is.

[F]

Yes, he is.

[E]

I'm sorry that. I'm not going to stand here and argue with you.

[F]

You're not. You should go get your manager. You should not be allowed to wear the at work. Unacceptable. Un acceptable.

[E]

That's your opinion.

[F]

The opinion is he's a racist and you support him.

[E]

That's your opinion. And you should.

[F]

You should not be allowed to wear that. This is going to be taken above your head. That's insane. Insane.

[B]

This is gonna be taken above your head. I love how she goes. It's not racist. Okay. Have a nice day. I'm not gonna sit here and argue. What a beautiful response to a crazy person.

[A]

Which.

[C]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

I mean, just nasty. And so listen, there was a givesend go. I wanna give a huge shout out to Cassandra Fairbanks who messaged me about this and let me know that it was even a thing. And then she helped set up the givesend Go. So go ahead and throw up.289. I actually don't know if this is the number, but they started trying to raise $50,000 just to bless this woman. And now it is over $200,000 raised.

[C]

Let me get the latest amount.

[B]

Yeah. Find the latest amount. And Cassandra Fairbanks, you are a good human for doing this. And for just. Her name's Jeannie from Target and it's from Chino or something. Anyways. What a sweet, sweet lady. She handled that with such grace and poise. And now somebody has found Jeannie and asked her a couple questions and she just keeps winning hearts in my. Like this is. This is the heartbeat and the core of the character of America. That's really what I think about it. Jeannie is a sweetheart. 273 I know people are calling for.

[E]

Her to be fired for this. Do you think that that's right? Would you like that to happen? No, I don't think that's. That's right. Like one saying I have is. Two wrongs don't make a right. You know, she wronged me but I don't want to wrong her or I don't want her. Her wrong because it's not going to make it right. I mean that was her opinion.

[B]

She.

[E]

But she's the one that put it on Facebook or put it on. On that. So you know. But I. I really wouldn't want to see her. Somebody lose their job over it.

[B]

Very sweet.

[C]

Current total $220,277.

[B]

I think we took that screen grab this morning and show prep. So it has grown 18 still growing.

[C]

And you want. I see there's a few people they do Those parasitic ones that might. You know, aren't the.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Do we have is the one you want is GiveSendGo.com Genie from Target. G E A N I E Genie from Target. It's also the one created by Cassandra Fairbanks.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

With funds to be received by Jeannie Beeman.

[B]

And so that's the one you want. God bless her. She's. And by the way she has. She literally is trying to deny the money. And I don't think Cassandra is going to let her know. And that's how sweet this woman is. She's like, no, no, no. I don't want all this attention. I don't want. And I think we're sort of winning her over and trying to say geno.

[C]

You will accept our love.

[B]

You will accept our love. Let us bless you, you sweet lady. And I just love that she first of all has the courage to wear a Charlie Kirk show at Target in California in Chino. By the way, Chino's got a lot of wingers. Right wingers in it. It's not a. It's not like all of California has got no conservatives. Chino's got some conservatives. But so she's in there. She's Wearing the shirt, she gets accosted, she gets wronged. Jeannie acknowledged that she wronged me, sure. But she handled it with such grace and dignity. And then people are calling for this gal. You can show the Gibson go again. So the gal on the left is the woman that with her phone up, she went and got her started swearing in her face. And I love that it's red v, blue too, which is kind of fun. So that she's a radical progressive who goes and thinks it's cool to go harass a woman that's probably in her 60s or 70s, who's minding her own business, just working a job at Target. How dare you? Like, honestly, I don't really care enough to go much harder than that. Because you beclowned yourself. You embarrassed yourself. But God bless you, Jean.

[C]

Do you think we'll be able to get her to AMFOs? I know Tyler said we should try.

[B]

I think we're working on it. That's all I'm gonna say. Who knows? Jeannie. Jeannie wants to avoid the spotlight and I can appreciate that, but we're.

[C]

Well, whatever happens, we salute you, Jeannie. We love you. Thank you so much for the love you showed, Charlie.

[B]

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[F]

I sure am. I'm here in Phoenix right now. I'm getting set to go over there. Just a little bit.

[B]

I should have had you on set. What are we doing Here. It's really weird. Goofballs. Well, tomorrow maybe we'll just have to have you back on again, but we'll do it on set because there's lots to discuss. Libby, I noticed that you were tweeting about this. What is quickly becoming probably one of the most bungled or at least apparently incompetent investigations I've ever seen.

[C]

It really is.

[B]

And that's the Brown shooting. So could you just bring us up to speed? Where are we at now and what do we need to know?

[F]

Well, so far, I believe we are at nowhere. We are exactly where we were shortly after the shooting. The police don't really seem to have any leads. They don't seem to have any real information to go on. Every time you watch. Watch one of these press conferences, which they deliver every evening from Providence, they tell you how the police are not demoralized and they're doing a great job and everyone's working together, and once they crack the case, it'll crack wide open. But nothing seems to be happening. They released their first person of interest. Then there was another person of interest that they have been looking for. Then they're looking for another person of interest. They can't seem to find anybody. They don't really give any information about it. Last night, when they were being asked by the press about this person of interest, they could not even say whether or not it was a man or a woman that they were looking for. So that's kind of a big thing. And then one thing that I found really, really shocking is that they have not even interviewed all of the students that were in the classroom at the time of the shooting. They have. They say that they have been. The police say they have been working with Brown University to get the names of those individuals and to get in contact with them, but that Brown has sent out an email to the student, to all students, saying, hey, if you were in this classroom for this study session, let us know so you can talk to police. But police have not talked to all of those students, and they don't even know who all of them were. And in the press conference yesterday, they wouldn't even say what kind of gun was used because they are worried that that would influence the answers of the students when they eventually get around to talking to them.

[B]

Yeah. So the. They. How do they not have all the students in the actual scene of the crime and they're sending out emails asking for. I mean, how is that even a thing? You would.

[F]

How is that even possible? Yeah, how is that even Possible. How do they not know? Like, go. They were on the crime scene shortly after the shooting.

[E]

The.

[F]

The. The whole school was in shelter in place lockdown until the morning on Sunday. And they didn't stop to say, hey, let's talk to every single person in that classroom. Instead, they took in a person, they went and searched his hotel room, whatever. Sunday night that person was released. Brown had already shut down the campus till the end of the term and sent everybody home. So now all they can do is like, hope that they can get out to Peoria or whatever and get in touch with the students who were in the room. And there's also indications, and this is not something police have really said, but there's indications that it was just the one student who was intentionally targeted. We don't seem to have any answers on that. And that would seem to be a huge indication of who the suspect might be if you knew who it was that they were targeting. But there's absolutely nothing. This ag, Peter Nerona, he seems like a total fool. He just goes out there and he's like, oh, the cops are doing a great job. And the cops are like, yeah, we don't really have any answers. And they're encouraging the public to come forward and give any information that they have. But as soon as the public says anything on Twitter, they get yelled at. You know, I mean, what is going on? This guy is clearly just going to get away at this point. It's been, what, five days? Rhode island is a small state. There's no reason to believe he's still in state. There's no reason to believe he's still in the country.

[C]

They say the line from the Providence police chief was, he could be anywhere. We don't know where the person is or who he is. Wow, that really. That's really inspiring confidence. And I'm reading other stuff here. Apparently the city of Providence has this new program to basically give police real time access to security cameras. And there's hundreds of security cameras around the city they have real time access to, but you can probably guess where there's a giant black hole where they don't have access to the security camera footage.

[B]

Brown University.

[C]

Brown University. No access.

[F]

There was also a question. One of the reporters last night said, hey, we saw in some security footage, we saw this person walking past a patrol car. Did you get anything off the dash cam of that car? And the chief of police said, oh, that we believe that was a Brown, Brown security vehicle. And we don't know if they have dash cams installed they don't know. Like, they didn't ask. Have they asked? Like, what are they doing?

[C]

We need to have these press conferences because apparently they can get good ideas from us.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Oh, we should ask.

[C]

That sounds like a great idea.

[B]

Yeah. Anyone else around the room? This is a group ideation session. We're just going to throw out Creative. Oh, okay, good. Dashcam on a security vehicle. Check calling 275. They have found live rounds. They're hoping to get DNA off this 275. What I can tell you from my sourcing is that I think quite significantly they have live rounds. That is rounds that were not fired. Undetonated rounds. Live rounds at this scene, I think is a hopeful sign for getting usable DNA, even. Even if he's not in the database. Remember, they can use that familial DNA technique that we saw in the Coburger case. It gets to a cousin or something. You work back from there. So I think that's a positive sign for the investigation.

[D]

And I can tell you they're scraping.

[B]

Very hard at it. I have to play this clip, Blake, because this is just shocking. I got it from Libby, highlighted it. It's 301. This is them admitting they don't even know which students were in the room when the shooting began. I just cannot believe this. 301.

[D]

That's all part of the interviews. And actually we're cooperating with Brown to get the roster. That was a study hall, so we don't have the number. We're still getting information as far as who was there. I know Brown sent out an email to the students to notify us if they were present and we're still getting that. So I can't give you an exact account Now.

[B]

We sent out emails.

[C]

I just. This really. So we're bullying the police, but really the focus needs to be, I think heavily on Brown here, that they're not. It's clear that the police are requesting this information. And it seems. I'll be frank. It seems like Brown doesn't care about catching a person who murdered two of their students.

[B]

Yeah. And that's a fair point. So Brown was caught sort of scrubbing their web pages of a certain person. Again, we're not gonna mention this person because we don't know if this person is actually guilty of anything or involved at all. But they were caught scrubbing a Muslim student who went by he. They pronouns. There's.

[C]

Who has a sort of portly shape.

[B]

And the first person of interest, they had a portly shape, looked like it could be a match. Do we know? And then they get this other person of interest. Are we supposed to assume there was multiple people involved or is that first person of interest now no longer a person of interest? Like, what's going on here? What do we know about this?

[F]

They indicate after the first person of interest was released, they came up with a second person of interest. That second person of interest on, I believe, what is today, It's Thursday. On Tuesday night, they said that that second person of interest was likely a suspect when they were questioned about it. And now they are looking for, in fact, a third person of interest who may know the second person of interest. So that is sort of the timeline. They won't tell us if any of these people have a specific gender, or maybe they better know if it has a specific gender identity. Who knows? But yeah, then they were caught scrubbing the pages of this one student. And, and then sort of surprisingly, what they did is they came out in a press conference. Again, this was the Tuesday one. They came out in a press conference shaming everyone for, for, for looking around for who this person of interest, you know, number two, could be. And they were like, hey, you know, you're doxing people, you're talking about people. How dare you implicate anybody at all. Meanwhile, hey, send us all your tips. Let us know what you're seeing. We have no idea who this is, but don't talk about it amongst yourselves. Just come talk to the police about it. So that seems a little irresponsible as well. On the press conference yesterday, they were saying, hey, there's AI images being shared. These are not accurate. We have a folder online. You can look at all of the images that we have. But I think the fact of the matter is that the public would not be so interested and determined in trying to find out any information conceivable about this shooter. If the police and Brown University were more forthcoming or had perhaps identified a suspect of some kind. You know, I mean, people want to know who the shooter is who wandered onto this Brown campus, managed to get into a secure facility and opened fire on students. They want to know who that is. Parents want to know. The community wants to know.

[B]

I know. Jack Posobec was reporting this morning that he had heard from some pretty high level sources that Ella Cook, the vice president of the College Republicans at Brown, was indeed targeted. Now, we're not hearing that from officials, so again, that's just one report. We've heard other reporting that seems to indicate that could be true. I'm gonna reserve final judgment there. But that came straight from Jack. Jack said that came from a good source. So do we know? Are we closer to getting them to confirm that? Why the reticence? They just simply don't know.

[C]

I don't think we can know until they've caught a suspect.

[B]

Well, it seemed like this person walked right into the room and targeted Ella Cook directly. Multiple shots. I think maybe even eight shots or something. And the reporting from POSO is that the other victims in the room were just incidental to that. So again, we don't know. I can't confirm that again. I'm just saying that's one report that seems to make at least some sense and why that's important. If we know that she was targeted, then that tells us a lot about motivation. That tells us who we should be looking for. I mean, a lot hinges on that. So if there's any indication that that would be true, we need to know that. Yeah.

[F]

And also, if Ella Cook was directly targeted and she was targeted by, you know, someone who was affiliated with the university, because otherwise why would they be there? How would they have gotten in? You could imagine that there would have been social media chatter between that person and Ms. Cook or that person condemning things that Ms. Cook had said. Because these things don't just start when you. When you start opening fire, you know, it starts on social media.

[B]

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[B]

You know this again, you've. You've chastised us a bit, Blake, for bullying the police here, but I just have. I have to play this clip because I don't doubt that Colonel Oscar Perez and the Providence police are doing their level best. I mean, maybe I doubt it a little bit, but it might just be as good as they can do. But the incompetence is clearly visible to everybody. And there's an older clip here a couple years ago of him talking, bragging about the diversity. I mean, it just go like it always happens this way.

[D]

303, we're a majority, minority city. To really understand what it means to police. South Providence, the west end, Oneyville, the east side of Providence. When you have an officer that responds to a call, and I'll put myself as an example of a Latino call, and there's a party going on or a Puerto Rican party or a Colombian party, we tend to be loud. And so if you're not used to an understanding of what that means, you may escalate a situation that did not require an escalation.

[C]

According to the FBI, you know, in 1965, we had a 90% clearance rate on homicides. The police charged a suspect in over 90% of cases, and we are down to 55% as of 2020.

[B]

That's nationwide.

[C]

Yeah, that's nationwide. FBI.

[B]

I wonder what. What is it in, like, South Chicago, though? Oh, it's even miserable, isn't it? Like 20% clearance?

[C]

I think something like that. Yeah.

[B]

It's terrible. And they don't want to talk to the police. And all of this stuff is a. Is a symptom of, like, larger problems about racial animus and division that has been stoked since really, since the 90s.

[C]

If you care about catching criminals, most of all, you'll catch criminals. If you care about having diversity the most, you'll have a lot of diversity.

[B]

Yeah. So much to say here. And I just feel like Brown University president. What's her name again?

[C]

Christina Paxson.

[B]

Yeah, she's worried about doxxing these people of interest, potentially. The Internet is trying to help. This is not like, these are not wild.

[C]

We shouldn't just spew people's names. But it's understandable why people ask questions.

[B]

About that when it's being handled so bizarrely. Libby Emmons, editor in chief of the Post Millennial and Human Events, is with us. Libby. I'M gonna get your broad take on the conservative movement. But I have a little bit of housekeeping. Apparently I said Chino with Jeannie from Target. Yeah, that's so Chico. That's Sacramento. I know how to get emails out of the audience. NorCal versus Southern. Box just flooded.

[C]

Can't mess that up.

[B]

Chico. Okay, Chico. I'm sorry. There's two names in California that sounds very similar, but one is Southern California, one is Northern, this is north of. And Chico is a Republican county. So barely you said, right?

[C]

Yes, yes, just barely.

[B]

A few percentage point went for Trump. The other piece of housekeeping I want to get to is that I think there's confusion about the radio part. The show will continue on Real America's Voice. This was something Charlie had actually decided before he was killed, that we were going to be kind of more focused on streaming and the over the top and Real America's Voice and podcasting. So this was kind of his decision. We're going with it. We support. We absolutely love. Alex Marlowe and Scott Jennings are great people. I'm so happy that they're going to get radio time. That just was a different direction, but the show will be at the same time frame. It'll be right here in January in the next year. And so all good things. I think people are confused about that. So I just want to make a clarifying point. The show is going to be the same time, same place. We're just kind of transitioning to a bit more streaming friendly format for the show and things like that, which is what Charlie wanted to do. All right, Libby Emmons. So there's been a lot made about just the fracturing, the consternation on the right. How do you think we fix that? What would you like to see happen at Amfest? I'm already getting that question a lot this morning, so I wanted to throw it to you as well. Do you think Amfest can be this moment where we kind of crystallize some things and we move into 20, 26 and strength?

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

I do hope that Amfest is an opportunity for people to come together and to coalesce on values and view. I know that it certainly has been in the past and a lot of people are anxious to see what happens now that Charlie Kirk has been killed. I mean, you guys know better than anyone how devastating that has been personally and for the movement and for everything. Charlie had his hands pretty much on everyone. You know, he touched everything in this movement. And I think that it is up to us to continue that legacy by reaching out hands to each other without, you know, that primary person who just kind of knew everyone and knew what to say. And everyone had pretty much confidence that Charlie was always acting in good faith. I think we need to remember that and need to act in good faith with one another and just come around and say, you know, we agree on the most important things. Let's work together to solidify, you know, the strength of this country and to make this a better place.

[B]

Yeah. And at some point, listen, I actually think movements and coalitions get rebuilt, Right? This is like Hillary Clinton did not get the same coalition that Obama when she was running. Okay? She has to rebuild her own coalition. H.W. bush, Reagan. You could make arguments about that. Sometimes movements have to have a sifting. We have to have an argument, we have to have a debate, and then we come back together. But. And so I would just say that ultimately we are faced with pretty much a binary choice. Do you want mamdaniism? Do you want AOC ism? Do you want mangioniism? Or do you want maga ism? Do you want a populist, nationalist, conservative movement? And ultimately that is going to be a purifying choice at some point, don't you think, Blake? And I don't know when, but I.

[C]

Mean, I guess they can also just choose. Neither.

[B]

They could opt out. They could opt out, and I hope.

[C]

They don't, which is disgraceful if you do.

[B]

That is not the American way. When I was growing up, it was like, if you didn't participate in the American process in your civic life, it was disgraceful, it was dishonorable, and it still is. But it wasn't even something I questioned. 30 seconds.

[F]

But we also had this idea, certainly when I was growing up, that this was the greatest country in the world, that it was the greatest empire ever built. We never questioned it. And I think we need to get back to that. And I will say, as I was flying out here yesterday from the East Coast, I saw a lot of people in Charlie's freedom shirt and they were smiling each other. They were strangers and they were all coming together because they all knew where each other was going. And they were glad to see more people like them headed in the right direction.

[B]

Well, the right direction is Phoenix, Arizona. That is for sure. The. The center of the conservative universe will be right here at Phoenix Convention Center. Libby, I'll see you maybe tomorrow. Like, maybe we'll just do it again. Run it back.

[C]

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