The Charlie Kirk Show
Episode: Defending Charlie’s Nominees and Charlie’s Values
Date: February 13, 2026
Host: Charlie Kirk (with co-hosts and guests including Sagar Enjeti)
Overview
This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show serves as a passionate defense of Charlie Kirk's nominees to the Trump administration, specifically Jeremy Carl, and the battle for maintaining the integrity of Kirk’s "America First" values. The hosts break down ongoing Senate hearings, respond to accusations against their preferred nominees, and discuss wider cultural fights—ranging from diversity, immigration, and woke politics to the dangers of marijuana legalization. The latter portion hosts journalist Sagar Enjeti in a deep-dive discussion on the Jeffrey Epstein case, exploring new evidence, intelligence connections, and media narratives.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Defending Jeremy Carl’s Senate Nomination
- [01:17–09:19]
- Nominee: Jeremy Carl (Assistant Secretary of State for International Organizations)
- Themes: The backlash against Carl for calling out “anti-white discrimination,” accusations of antisemitism, and his alignment with mainstream conservative populist thought.
- Host’s Stance: The show presents Carl as a principled, persecuted truth-teller, echoing Charlie Kirk's legacy.
- Memorable Exchange: Discussion of Senate hearings, where Democratic Senators (Rosen, Shaheen, Booker) scrutinized Carl for his views and past statements.
- Quote:
“These are some of my favorite people. Give them a job in the administration. … He was the author of The Unprotected Class, which is one of those really strong calling out how anti-white racism has become this pervasive thing in America.”
(C, 01:25) - Highlight: The panel’s outrage over Carl being labeled a “white supremacist” and “anti-Semite,” despite being Jewish, and their claim that “saying the truth” has now become taboo.
- Senator John Curtis: Newly elected Republican from Utah opposes Carl’s nomination, drawing sharp criticism from the hosts.
2. Framing Demographic Change and “The Great Replacement”
- [09:19–17:43]
- Clips Featured: Debate between Cory Booker and Jeremy Carl on the “Great Replacement Theory.”
- Hosts Argue: Accuse progressives of open demographic engineering to secure long-term political power, with concrete references to statements about “the browning of America.”
- Quote:
“So much discourse in America is just the left pretending not to understand things. … They’ve been called on it a ton.”
(C, 07:59 & 17:20) - Statistic Mentioned: Record number of Social Security numbers issued under the Biden administration, purportedly to “juice” elections via demographic change.
3. Resilience Against “Woke” Politics and the Conservative Movement
- [16:25–17:43]
- Main Message: Woke politics may have endured a setback in 2024 but continues to hold strongholds in government and society. The need to build immunities and stand firm is emphasized.
4. Marijuana Legalization: A Conservative Counterattack (with Sagar Enjeti)
- [20:25–31:08]
- Sagar Enjeti’s Arguments:
- Highlights the dangers: widespread daily use, IQ and testosterone decline, dangers for pregnant women, increased impaired driving, and the rise of Big Weed.
- Dismisses popular arguments about marijuana’s medical benefits; urges a cultural and normative shift akin to how society turned against Big Tobacco.
- Quote:
“Nothing inspires more hatred for me personally than talking about the ills of marijuana.”
(D, 21:12) - Rebuttal to Libertarians:
"When your freedom begins to have high levels of societal costs... we need very well-established norms and regulation... This is a crisis. It's a full-blown crisis."
(D, 27:39 & 29:00) - Charlie’s Position: Previously highlighted the long-term societal destructiveness of legalizing weed, even when "super unpopular."
- Memorable Host Commentary:
“When marijuana is legalized, you invite corporate actors that are very, very good at making things addictive…”
(A, 30:35)
- Sagar Enjeti’s Arguments:
5. The Jeffrey Epstein Files: Intelligence Connections, Conspiracies, and Media Narratives
- [32:24–47:31]
- Hook: Responding to Wall Street Journal op-ed downplaying Epstein’s blackmail/intel connections.
- Sagar’s Take:
- Epstein was deeply enmeshed in international intelligence circles, and evidence abounds in correspondence.
- Financial dealings (with Les Wexner, Leon Black) defy “tax advice” explanations; no legitimate tax consulting found in emails.
- Epstein’s rise traced to possible Cold War intelligence work, laundering, and arms dealing for states and agencies.
- Quote:
“His usefulness to this very powerful network… enabled him to get away with some of his more salacious activities.”
(D, 33:22) - Debate on Blackmail: Rather than a dossier or explicit “client list,” Epstein wielded influence more subtly, through insinuation, soft power, and elite entanglements.
- Financial Scam Theory: Briefly entertained (“ultimate con artist”), but Sagar rebuts with concrete evidence of real arms brokering and international connections.
- Epstein as a “Gun for Hire”:
“Did he work for Mossad? Sometimes. Did he work for the CIA? Sometimes. Did he work for the Russians? Sometimes.”
(B, 44:09) - Sex Trafficking vs. Prostitution: Explores the nuance of “consent” and the exploitative nature of Epstein’s operations.
- Sagar’s Final Word:
- Explicit statements that even adult sex work under Epstein was “deeply exploitative,” so distinctions between “basic prostitution” and trafficking are blurred.
- Reminds listeners that Epstein did victimize minors and exploited women with manipulation and pressure.
“Just because people are of age doesn't mean that they're not being exploited.”
(D, 46:31)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On Jeremy Carl’s Hearing:
“I think saying the truth is somehow beyond the pale now...” – Host (B), [04:37]
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On Accusations of Antisemitism:
“Jeremy Carl grew up as a Jew, which is hilarious…” – Host (B), [04:10]
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On Demographic Change:
“They cannot win with the historical American population, so they have banked on bring[ing] in a new population.” – Host (C), [14:33]
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Sagar Enjeti’s Marijuana Takedown:
“People who are alcoholics do not try to justify their alcohol use by saying that it's curing them. ... I think exactly the same thing of marijuana.” – Sagar (D), [21:26]
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On Epstein’s Intel Links:
“There is no sophisticated financial engineering going on. … The only real thing that we can come away with [on] how he made his money is, is either blackmail and and other types of criminality.” – Sagar (D), [37:03]
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On the Need for Regulation:
“This is a normative conversation … like, really what I’m talking about here is culture, perhaps more than anything, the same way that we have conquered smoking in the United States.” – Sagar (D), [27:39]
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Final Point on Epstein’s Exploitation:
“Just because people are of age doesn’t mean that they’re not being exploited.” – Sagar (D), [46:31]
Timestamps for Key Segments
- [01:17–09:19] Defending Jeremy Carl, Senate hearings, accusations of racism/antisemitism
- [09:19–17:43] Demographic change, Great Replacement Theory, left/progressive strategy
- [20:25–31:08] Marijuana legalization dangers, cultural impacts, Sagar’s evidence-based critique
- [32:24–47:31] Epstein files, intelligence connections, the nature of blackmail, sex trafficking, and elite complicity
Tone and Language
The tone of this episode is unapologetically combative, direct, and sarcastic—typical for The Charlie Kirk Show. The hosts adopt a defiant posture (“we will not forget, Mr. Curtis”), emphasize the “truth-telling” mission, and do not shy away from hot-button culture war issues. Sagar Enjeti’s style is measured and data-driven, yet equally passionate in critique.
For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In
This episode provides a clear window into the culture war priorities of post-2024 American right-wing activism:
- Fiercely loyal to "their own" in politics and administration
- Deeply skeptical of diversity politics and demographic change as Democratic strategy
- Synthetic critique of progressive “woke” politics and perceived censorship
- Hard-hitting, data-rich opposition to psychedelic and marijuana liberalization
- Unflinching dissection of elite scandals, intelligence agencies, and media whitewashes
The show is both an homage to Charlie Kirk’s legacy and an updated manifesto for his movement’s ongoing fights—on campus, in politics, and in the halls of power.