Denaturalize and Deport + AMA 257

Summary

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The Charlie Kirk Show

Episode: "Denaturalize and Deport + AMA 257"

Date: March 13, 2026
Host: Charlie Kirk
Guests: Senator Eric Schmidt, Eyal Yacobi, Blake (Co-host), Andrew Colvett (Producer), Danny (Producer)

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Episode Overview

This packed episode of The Charlie Kirk Show zeroes in on the urgency of fixing America’s immigration system—both legal and illegal. Charlie opens with a deep dive into the "Scam Act" with Senator Eric Schmidt, a legislative push designed to make it easier to denaturalize and deport individuals engaged in crime, terrorism, or fraud. The episode then pivots to social and cultural consequences of mass migration, touching on faith, assimilation, the erosion of American values, and recent terror attacks. In the Ask Me Anything (AMA) segment, Charlie and team engage with audience questions about religious freedoms, nature versus nurture, practical activism, and cell phone tower safety.

Direct, unapologetic, and rooted in conservative philosophy, the conversation is laced with policy details, audience interaction, and a sense of cultural urgency.

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Key Segments and Discussions

1. The Scam Act & Immigration Reform

[01:03]–[14:11]

Senator Eric Schmidt on the "Scam Act"

• Purpose: Expands grounds for denaturalization and deportation of naturalized citizens convicted of serious crimes (fraud, welfare fraud, violent crimes, terrorism, espionage, cartel affiliation).
• 10-Year Lookback: If a naturalized citizen is convicted of qualifying offenses within 10 years of naturalization, denaturalization and deportation become possible.
• Motivation: Rooted in recent cases where naturalized citizens engaged in serious crimes post-citizenship (e.g., Minneapolis Somali fraud, Austin & Old Dominion attacks).
• Current Challenge: Legally, denaturalization is rare and difficult, currently requiring proof of fraud during naturalization. The Act aims to align with court rulings to withstand legal scrutiny.

Notable Quote:

“If you come to this country, you commit fraud, you commit a violent act, an act of terrorism, we should have the ability in my bill, the Scam Act with a 10 year look back to denaturalize you and get you the hell out of here.”
— Senator Eric Schmidt [01:41]

Legal and Political Implications

• Polling Support: Charlie cites audience and live event polls showing up to 90% support for an immigration moratorium and stronger deportation measures.
• Strategy: Schmidt urges Republicans to force Democrats to vote against common-sense denaturalization and deportation measures, framing it as a winning political issue.

Notable Quote:

“I want every single 100% to say, this guy voted in favor of keeping citizenship for ISIS supporters. It should be really straightforward.”
— Blake [13:05]

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2. The Problem of Assimilation & Radicalization

[03:15]–[05:34], [20:00]–[24:46]

Radicalization Among Immigrant Communities

• Clips featuring young Muslim men stating they would support Iraq over America in a hypothetical war, refusing to defend the U.S. due to religious reasons.
• Senator Schmidt: U.S. imports not just immigrants, but also “a legal immigration problem,” citing programs like H1B and OPT that displace American workers and students.
• Charlie: U.S. cities and culture are being overtaken due to “stupid” immigration policies.

Notable Exchange:

“You wouldn't defend America?”
— Blake
“We would not defend America.”
— Interviewee [04:56]

Birthright Citizenship & Birth Tourism

• Discussion about Chinese nationals giving birth in the U.S. to secure automatic citizenship for their children, some of whom return to China and can later relocate to the U.S., further complicating assimilation and loyalty.

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3. Media & Political Response to Terror Attacks

[17:04]–[19:38]

Left-Wing Commentary & Gun Control Narratives

• Audio clips of media and progressive officials blaming “gun absolutism” or Trump policies for recent attacks, sometimes ignoring the perpetrators’ backgrounds or other factors (e.g., synagogue attack involving explosives, not firearms).

Notable Quote:

“We live in a country where people care more about guns than six year old children… If you’re looking for somebody to blame…look at our lawmakers who don’t have the courage to implement sensible gun control measures.”
— Ramen Fatehee, Virginia Attorney [17:04]

Eyal Yacobi’s Response

• Points out the absurdity of blaming guns for attacks clearly motivated by religious or ideological extremism.
• Highlights the importation of “communist dogma” onto college campuses, the rise of anti-Israel, pro-terrorist sentiment, and the need for vigilance against domestic radicalization.

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4. Denaturalization, Religious Freedom, and the Constitution

[36:08]–[41:57]

Audience AMA: How Far Can We Go?

• Question: How can America denaturalize those advocating violence or jihad without violating the First Amendment?
• Blake and Charlie’s Response:
  • Cannot and should not single religion out for legal sanction; instead, root actions in criminal behavior (terrorism, welfare fraud, etc.).
  • America can rationally restrict immigration by country of origin to preserve cultural integrity, as allowed by the Constitution.
  • Building bold coalitions depends on overcoming the fear of “racism” accusations and being unapologetic in defending Western values.

Notable Insights:

“It is a religious system by any reasonable standard. And America, as you’re correct, America has freedom of religion…But that is not necessarily incompatible with us recognizing big picture: it’s not good if America becomes more Islamic.”
— Blake [36:56]

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5. Grassroots Actions: Family, Faith, and Activism

[55:31]–[58:21]

Evangelizing, Culture-Building, and Practical Activism

• Charlie and team talk candidly about weaving faith into everyday conversations, advocating for activism that combines logic, morality, and the “Socratic method.”
• Advice: Build the habit of linking political/moral issues back to faith—but wait for the right moment, guided by humility and thoughtfulness.

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6. Other AMA Highlights

[28:57]–[62:59]

Nature vs. Nurture Debate

• Blake and Charlie agree: Recent research leans toward “nature” as a primary force shaping behavior and success, but nurture and culture also matter.
• Western civilization’s success is credited to centuries of cultural and moral discipline—something immigration policy must consider.

Cell Tower Safety, Student Loans, and Political Organizing

• Varied questions on safety concerns about cell towers (RF radiation)—with mixed responses from skeptical, research-oriented, and expert viewpoints.
• Updates on Turning Point Action’s plans for the midterms, noting the “Red Wall” strategy (focusing on key swing states for future electoral success).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Denaturalization:
  “We have a legal immigration problem ... The biggest lie that was ever told was that we didn’t have American workers who could do these jobs.”
  — Senator Eric Schmidt [05:34]

• On Cultural Self-Destruction:
  "This sort of toxic or suicidal empathy that the left has. They’re willing to destroy our country to…fill some hole in their own heart."
  — Senator Eric Schmidt [03:45]

• On the Constitution and Immigration:
  "We are in fact allowed to say and prioritize that, okay, even if we have freedom of religion, we should keep America more Christian in its identity. We should not have America become an Islamic country. All of those things are compatible with the First Amendment."
  — Blake [38:47]

• On Why Radical Activists Stay in America:
  "If he’s so obsessed with the Supreme Leader of Iran, he should fly there and live there under the Iranian regime. There is absolutely zero reason that he’s currently residing in the United States of America.”
  — Eyal Yacobi [22:16]

• On Building Public Support:
  "The answer is you have to be fearless. ... The willingness to speak up as Charlie did, as others are doing, has that ability to engineer its own coalition."
  — Blake [39:55]

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Timestamps for Key Sections

• [01:03] – Introduction to Senator Eric Schmidt & the Scam Act
• [03:15] – Conversation about radicalization, assimilation, and immigrant loyalty
• [05:34] – Critique of H1B and OPT programs (legal immigration "problems")
• [07:00] – Charlie and Blake call for “net zero” immigration and moratorium discussion
• [08:29] – Public polling and political strategy around immigration policy
• [10:06] – Legislative details and legal analysis of the Scam Act
• [12:46] – Political strategy: Forcing votes on straightforward denaturalization bills
• [17:04] – Left-wing responses to shootings/terror attacks; blaming guns & Trump
• [20:00] – Eyal Yacobi: Radicalism on campus, criticism of U.S.-based extremist sympathizers
• [24:46] – Critique of blaming Trump for attacks committed by individuals naturalized under Obama
• [28:57] – Honoring victims of recent attacks, focus on the human cost of immigration failures
• [36:08] – AMA: Denaturalizing based on religious beliefs vs. criminal actions
• [38:47] – Constitutional analysis of immigration, religion, and policy choices
• [55:31] – Evangelizing, discipleship, and integrating faith into discussions
• [59:35] – Nature vs. nurture debate; implications for family and education policy

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Final Thoughts & Takeaways

Charlie Kirk and his team blend anger and urgency about immigration and cultural drift with detailed policy prescriptions and a call for fearless advocacy. Central to the show is the idea of reasserting legal and cultural control—by supporting legislative efforts like the Scam Act, calling for an immigration moratorium, targeting terrorist sympathizers, and relentlessly defending Western values. Throughout, the episode spotlights the role of faith, disciplined activism, and coalition-building, showing their vision for restoring an unapologetic, strong, and purpose-driven America.

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Transcript

[Charlie Kirk]

My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you

[Blake]

is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable.

[Charlie Kirk]

But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody.

[Blake]

You gotta stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as

[Senator Eric Schmidt]

possible and have as many kids as possible.

[Blake]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake]

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[Charlie Kirk]

company I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. I want to get to Senator Eric Schmidt because he's been. He made some time for us this morning and want to honor that. Welcome to the show, Senator Schmidt. Thank you so much for making the time. I know you're kind of juggling all kinds of obligations over there. So you tweeted something yesterday and I just think it's absolutely fundamentally important to the Republic. It's called the Scam act, especially after the events that unfolded yesterday. Please tell our audience about it and why they should support it because I'm all in.

[Senator Eric Schmidt]

Yeah, look, we, we've effectively closed the border. That's great success. I think the mass migration needs to be met with mass deportations. So there's 15 million people here that came here illegally when the Joe Biden era. And those deportations will continue. But we also, I think, need to do something beyond that, which is begin to expand the category of people that can be denaturalized and sent back home. Look, if you come to this country, you commit fraud, you commit a violent act, an act of terrorism, we should have the ability in my bill, the scam act with a 10 year look back to denaturalize you and get you the hell out of here. That's how I feel about it. And you can tell with the incidents in Austin, Old Dominion, the New York team got teen guys who were, you know, throwing bombs the the Michigan synagogue yesterday. The guy was natural naturalized, he was from Lebanon. So there ought to be a process because right now a lot of people don't know. It's just very difficult. You almost have to commit fraud in the inducement fraud at the moment that you are applying to become a citizen. And of course, with that process, you know, you, you, you sort of pledge allegiance to the country. There's sort of a loyalty test there that's very important. But when people come here and they abuse the system like that, we ought to be able to denaturalize them. I filed this originally, Andrew, in the wake of the Minneapolis Somali fraud scam. Right, because people had come here, they fleeced Americans, and they were recently naturalized citizens. And we ought to be able to denaturalize them in that incident. And then of course, with terrorism, too.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, you know, that's exactly what I thought about. You know, we have a problem now that is not going. I don't think you can address it, actually, because a lot of these are sons, I guess, daughters, but mostly sons that are doing the terrorism of immigrants. So, for example, those two young men at Gracie Mansion in New York City, those are, you know, kids that have grown up here that have gotten radicalized from, you know, online. But it's their. We naturalized their parents radicalized by their mother, fellow kids.

[Senator Eric Schmidt]

And by the way, wasn't it, wasn't it. It actually interesting, that image? You've got some white liberal out there with a megaphone, you know, protesting, saying everybody is welcome, kind of whatever the, whatever the woke slogan he was chanting. And then two guys, two, you know, terrorists essentially leap over him to throw bombs. I mean, it is kind of actually indicative of the problem, this sort of toxic or suicidal empathy that the left has. They're willing to destroy our country to, you know, kind of fill some hole in their own heart. I don't. It's. It's dangerous for our country. And that's my concern.

[Charlie Kirk]

I totally agree. I want to play this clip here. This is from November 2025. Nick Shirley was talking to some of these young men that have been radicalized right here at home, right here in Dearborn and other places. Cut one.

[Blake]

Now you have all these Islam men yelling Allah Akbar.

[Charlie Kirk]

I have a question for you guys.

[Blake]

If America were to get in a war with someone with a country like Iraq, who would you guys defend? Americ, America or Iraq?

[Charlie Kirk]

We won't get a war that's not permissible for us. But at the same time, who would you defend first? We would support our brothers in Iraq.

[Blake]

That's the only way. So you wouldn't defend America?

[Charlie Kirk]

We would not defend America.

[Blake]

But you're America. But at the same time, listen, at

[Charlie Kirk]

the same time, America is our country

[Blake]

because we were born here. But in our Islamic book, we're not

[Charlie Kirk]

allowed to fight with people that are against our religion. So we just take up the jail time. That's what we do. So you would not have to go to America. I would go to jail.

[Blake]

It's not voting for America.

[Charlie Kirk]

So I guess that's the solution that. I mean, this is what we've imported. Those are your neighbors. Those are your fellow citizens. I don't even know what to make of it because our immigration system has been so stupid for so long that this is the fruit.

[Blake]

Yeah.

[Senator Eric Schmidt]

We don't have just a. I think, I think I've been saying. You guys have been saying it. I know Charlie would say it. We don't have just an illegal immigration problem. We have a legal immigration problem. And I'll give you two examples. The H1B program, which has been used by, by corporate interest essentially to displace American workers. The biggest lie that was ever told was that we didn't have American workers could do these jobs. By the way, these are like computer tech jobs. Right. And so what they'll do is, and Microsoft did it just a few months ago, they'll literally lay off thousands of American workers. Not because they don't have workers to do the jobs. Those are the ones they're firing to import foreign labor that's cheaper and more compliant because in order to be here, the company has to attest for their temporary visa. Meanwhile, the American workers have to suffer the humiliation of training their foreign replacements whose only skill they have that they don't have is that they're willing to take less money. The other one is the OPT program which has become like a visa mill for universities guys where they bring in foreign students, displacing American students. And the universities go along with it because they get full freight, they pay full tuition and more as opposed to an in state tuition for an American kid. And then companies that hire them for a year or two get the benefit of not paying taxes on that worker. So we have a legal immigration problem in the sense that we're encouraging and creating incentives for American workers and students to be displaced. And we have to change that.

[Charlie Kirk]

I want to play a couple clips from Charlie himself talking about this, about fixing legal immigration. Play, play. Sat 10 we must be unafraid to

[Blake]

tell the truth about legal immigration. Stop it. Net zero immigration moratorium.

[Charlie Kirk]

And be unafraid of the words that

[Blake]

they will call us because our greatest

[Charlie Kirk]

cities are being conquered. Side 11 the fight the future.

[Blake]

The energy is going to be on

[Charlie Kirk]

who do we legally let into America?

[Blake]

That is the question.

[Charlie Kirk]

CK was all over this. Yep.

[Senator Eric Schmidt]

Yeah, look, we saw, we had a hearing on birthright citizenship this week, too.

[Eyal Yacobi]

There's.

[Senator Eric Schmidt]

There's basically this birth tourism where Chinese will pay. Chinese individuals will pay to have their. Have a woman come here for a week, give birth, fly back. There's a million and a half quote, unquote, American citizens that are being educated by the CCP in China that can come back to the United States. This thing's broken. Charlie's right. This is the fight. And we have to be unafraid of what people are going to call us.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, you're absolutely right. He did an X poll, by the way. 225. Throw this up. This was about 90% in favor of it. 225, if you've got that image, about 90% in favor of this. Check this out, though, Senator Schmidt. We did the poll at Amfest in December. So Basically, less than three months ago, 226. It came out the exact same. 89.5% in favor of an immigration moratorium.

[Senator Eric Schmidt]

Yeah. The polling I've seen also on, on deportations. Right. The American people don't just support deporting, you know, criminal aliens who are here. They also just believe in. We saw 15 million people come here illegally, and we ought to deport those, too. And I think what you're, what you really, if you want to peel the veil back on what this whole DHS funding and ICE thing is with the Democrats, if they've shut down Homeland Security, they lost at the polls in 2024. They brought in 15 million people. They thought that this was the reality everybody was going to have to live with. President Trump ran on a central plank, was addressing that issue in mass deportations. They lost there. And so now what they want to do is that basically have mass amnesty by kneecapping ICE so they can't, you know, continue their mission for deportations that President Trump won on. So I think the 15 million people here illegally was the Democrats wanted to create a problem so big that the only solution that people could wrap their head around was mass amnesty. And now that the American people rejected that, their only solution is to defund an agency whose job is to enforce our federal immigration law. So it's a sick ideology. The Democrats have totally lost their way. I mean, if you listen to a speech from Bill Clinton not that long ago, he sounds like a Republican on this point. Now they've been totally radicalized with this open borders in this toxic empathy. And I Think at the end of the day, guys, they know they've lost the case of the American people. And their only way that they can hold on to power or gain power is by having a new group of people here that they can make them beholden to. So it's crazy.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I mean, reiterate for the audience, Senator, the Scam act. Because I think you made this point. I think you said it well, you said first the Save Act, Save America act, then the Scam Act. So what would the Scam act actually do? And how do we, how do we support you in this effort?

[Senator Eric Schmidt]

So deport or I'm sorry, denaturalization is hard to do right now. It's pretty rare. This would expand the category by which you can denaturalize somebody if they commit welfare fraud, if they're, you know, have an aggravated felony, if they're a violent criminal, if they, if they're, you know, convicted of espionage, if they join a cartel, a form a foreign terrorist organization or engage in terrorism. You have a 10 year look back from when they were denaturalized or naturalized, and you can denaturalize them and send them home. Right now. You can't do that. Once somebody becomes a citizen, it's very hard to ever do that. You have to prove some sort of fraud in the inducement of fraud, how they became a citizen in the first place. Now, there are court rulings on this and it's importantly, we've drafted the statute that would comply with the court's ruling that you tie this back to their initial, their original fraud of saying, I'm going to be loyal to the United States and all that sort of thing. So the Scam act is very important if we're serious about this, if we're serious about taking on abuses with legal immigration, not just H1B, not just opt, but when people do things like they did in Minneapolis or you see what happened at Old Dominion, there's a mechanism by which not just that we can prosecute them, but that we can ultimately denaturalize them and get them out of here.

[Charlie Kirk]

So I have a question. Maybe Blake has. Blake's my. He's not a lawyer, but he's paid to be one. On tv. The. You are a lawyer. You are a great lawyer in Missouri. This is why I love this question for you, because you're crafting this in such a way that it will hold legal muster. But I'll just be honest. Emotionally. I'm watching what happened at od. I'm watching what happened in Michigan. I don't care if it's 10 years or 15 years or 100 years. Get that guy out of here. Lock him up. Throw away the key. If you're sympathizing with ISIS, I don't care if it's 10 years or 50. You don't belong here. So that's my final question to you there, sir.

[Senator Eric Schmidt]

Yeah, look, we're trying to get. Look, I'm not big on. A lot of people just file things to have, like, be able to message it and say, hey, I'm. Look at this. I filed this bill even though they know it's not gonna go anywhere. That's not me. That's not why I get into this. I got into this, you know, when I was ag, we fought back, and we won a lot of those big cases, and that's why I ran for the Senate. So this would hold up. Would I like for it to be longer? Of course. But we want this thing to actually have some teeth, to be upheld by the court. And right now, we don't have a really. A way to denaturalize. This would give us a route to get rid of these bad folks.

[Blake]

To me, it just seems so straightforward. I always find it aggravating that we would bring these giant bills and they get held up and everything, because to me, it should be such a straightforward political win to have the Senate be voting on a bill and it says if you commit terrorism, you can have your citizenship revoked and force Democrats to filibuster it, force them to vote no on it, and then run on that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, run.

[Blake]

I want every single 100% to say, this guy voted in favor of keeping citizenship for ISIS supporters. It should be really straightforward. I'm always so confused.

[Senator Eric Schmidt]

100%. And that's what I mean. Save America Act. Right. We want to get that done and make the Democrats make an argument against it. Right. Who doesn't think you should have to prove you're a US Citizen to vote? Who doesn't think you shouldn't have to show an ID like you do when you check into a hotel room to vote? These are big issues, and by the way, they'll matter in important states like Georgia, where Jon Ossoff parades around like a moderate. It's hard to act. It's hard to actually portray yourself as a moderate when you voted against all these 80, 20 issues. I agree with you. I think we need to be aggressive and we need to play offense.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, you know, Senator Schmidt, you might need a new job than Senate leader, but that's just you don't want it. Nevermind.

[Senator Eric Schmidt]

No, thanks.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, exactly. Senator Eric Schmidt scam act. We all need to get behind it. It's huge. It's so. And while we're at it, let's get a net zero moratorium on the books. But we can wish. Thank you, sir. Thank you for making the time.

[Senator Eric Schmidt]

Take care, guys.

[Charlie Kirk]

Thank you. Your reaction to. I think he makes a good point. It has to stand up to legal mustard.

[Blake]

But emotionally we don't ever want cartoon bills. You don't want something that's gonna get blown up by a Supreme Court. That is whatever frustrations we have basically on our side. But yeah, we should, we should be very eager and ready to propose restrained bills that clearly make the situation better and that it's indefensible for Democrats to vote against. It's. I've told this story a few times, but US Federal law still lets you bring in child brides to get a green card for marriage. And I would love to have our government voting on that. I think that could be a one page bill where you amend it and you say, actually there's a, there's an age floor for that sort of thing.

[Charlie Kirk]

Or.

[Blake]

And so similar to this, it's just, I feel, I love his bill and the different parts of it. I practically wonder if you could break that into pieces. You could have a one page bill that says like, okay, you can get denaturalized for terrorism offense.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And why is our Senate not pulling that immediately to the floor?

[Blake]

And like there's all this committee nonsense that goes on the Senate streamline that change the rules so that on something like that you can bring it up to. You don't need to waste a month on something when it is a straightforward change to the law. That's my point of view.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake]

We live in a country where people care more about guns than they care about six year old children. They care more about guns than they care about synagogues and they care more about guns than they do about college students. And until there is the political will to break the spell of the cult of gun absolutism, you will see more incidents like this. So if you're looking for somebody to blame, don't look at anybody up here. Look at our lawmakers who don't have the courage to implement sensible gun control measures.

[Charlie Kirk]

Eyal Yacobi joins us now. Ayal, I hope you heard that clip. That's a Soros backed Virginia attorney Ramen Fatehee and he's, he's, he's blaming guns for what happened yesterday. Your reaction?

[Eyal Yacobi]

I just find it confusing that he's blaming guns when there was an explosive filled vehicle that was rammed into the synagogue yesterday. And so I think, you know, they, they love to blame guns, but in this situation it was actually an explosive filled vehicle that did the damage.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, I think, to be specific, I think he was speaking about the Old Dominion attack in that I think. But you know, but either way we have more clips of this. This is Jake Tapper, who's Jewish by the way. He had, he said we don't know the, this was the synagogue shooting or attack. Yeah, go ahead.

[Blake]

You just picture these like some clueless FBI agent and they're like why did you do was because of Islam, sir. And he's like stop speaking in riddles

[Charlie Kirk]

and breaking a chair. Exactly. We had no instantly we reacted. We like, we knew the motivation to be crystal clear.

[Blake]

We do not know the motivations of the attacker.

[Charlie Kirk]

This would be mass murderer of Jews. We don't know their political views.

[Blake]

But the Overton window, the measure of acceptable discourse has opened to some of the most hateful anti Semitic voices out there on the left and the right. We don't know the motive. I mean, it might have been animal rights.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, exactly.

[Blake]

It might have been, you know, might have been protesting a parking ticket.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. We've got just a short little bit in this segment left, but 10 seconds to you. Did you, did you instantly know the motive or did you. Were you guessing?

[Eyal Yacobi]

I think after the Austin shooting, the IED attack in New York City, the Dominion shooting, and then another car ramming, I think it becomes obvious what the ramming is when it's four different incidents in a single week alone.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's a mystery.

[Eyal Yacobi]

Just the world may never know.

[Charlie Kirk]

This is why, I know this is why we can't have nice things, is because we're just completely hampered by part of the country that's brain dead. Eyal Yacobi is a political commentator. You can find him on X. He's got a great, He's a great follow at EY or Eyacobi. So, Eyal, tell us about yourself. We're still getting to know each other, but you are a great follow. You are very plugged in. Tell our audience about yourself. Yeah.

[Eyal Yacobi]

First of all, thank you for having me on the show. Andrew, great to speak to you again. Blake, great to meet you. I graduated from the University of Pennsylvania two years ago. During my senior year, I was on campus for the pro Hamas, anti ice protests. And throughout college, I knew that there was this communist dogma that was being superimposed onto students. And it really came to light in my opinion. My senior year I testified before Congress twice. I've spoken with President Trump about the rising radicalism on college campuses. I've worked closely with the administration, with congressional committees, and my focus has really been to restore academic excellence to the United States rather than dei communism and Islamism.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, you're doing a lot of work there, man. I see you all over my feed. So good on you there. I wanted to have you on because of this clip though, and it ties into what we were talking about with Senator Schmidt and he's working on a bill called the Scam act to deport, denaturalize, even citizens and have a 10 year look back. So if you're getting buddy buddy with isis, then get the hell out. And I'm all about it. But this is a dearborn Henry Ford Community College professor, Ali Akbar Shdeed. And he is.

[Blake]

I remember that name in the Declaration of Independence.

[Charlie Kirk]

Right, exactly. Sounds like A founding father. Although I yells, I'm still struggling to say it. I apologize, my friend, but we're gonna play this clip and get your reaction on the other side. Cuz I just found it just horrendous that these people are these. They live among us. Sat too. Trump did a huge mistake by killing our beloved leader, Sayyid Ali Khamenei. He thought that by killing him, he's

[Eyal Yacobi]

gonna make the believers submit and make them hopeless.

[Charlie Kirk]

However, we're going to continue on the path of Sayyid Alik Khaminati. We're going to hold his blood, his ideology. We're going to learn it and teach it to our children and grandchildren. We're going to hold his blood and his ideology and teach it to our children and grandchildren. And of course, he's talking about how President Trump killed the Supreme Leader of Iran. What do you make of this?

[Eyal Yacobi]

I make number one, that if he's so obsessed with the Supreme Leader of Iran, he should fly there and live there under the Iranian regime. There is absolutely zero reason that he's currently residing in the United States of America. There's literally none. And I think it's the same sort of ridiculousness that a lot of people have where they have this fetish for these terrorists. Literal, you know, fundamentalist terrorists. But they seem to never want to live in any of these countries. You have, for instance, the queers for Palestine who are obsessed with supporting Hamas, Hezbollah and the Ayatollah. And yet none of them seem to want to take vacation in any of these countries. Which is just, to me, it's bizarre that if you're so obsessed with something, go live there. There's no reason for you to be in the United States.

[Charlie Kirk]

There is actually a great reason for them to live in the United States. They want to conquer it. They want to take it over. Look at New York. Mamdani's the mayor's mansion. There is now. It's a, you know, people are eating with their hands again in the mayor's mansion and they're sitting on rugs celebrating Ramadan.

[Blake]

There's a lot of churches around the world that have become mosques. Why not turn, you know, a mayor's mansion into one?

[Charlie Kirk]

It's disgusting. So, I mean, yeah, okay, so there is a reason that they're doing this Il so, But I think you know that as well. Let's talk about the Temple Israel attack, specifically. This was. And I'm gonna play this cut and get your reaction to it. This was on msnow. I found it pretty Horrific. They're blaming Trump because the Trump administration has not sufficiently prepared us for national security. Here, cut five. There has been questions, real, significant, meaningful questions about whether this administration is. Has its eyes on keeping the American public safe. It's very clear that the focus at

[Blake]

the Department of Homeland Security and the focus from the top, many parts of this administration, including the FBI, has been on immigration enforcement, specifically immigration enforcement that leads to the maximum number of deportations.

[Charlie Kirk]

And I don't think you could say that it has been focused on violent

[Blake]

extremism or the possibility of terrorism.

[Charlie Kirk]

Listen there. Okay, so these are. So they don't even point the finger at the Biden administration who let all these crazy people in. Unvetted millions. Oh, it's Trump's fault. When you look at what happened at Temple Israel, make it make sense for us.

[Eyal Yacobi]

I think some of these people wake up and if they, like, stub their toe, they're like, damn it, Trump did it. To me, it's just so ridiculous, the obsession that they have over blaming everything on Trump. This guy who ran his car into the synagogue came under. Came here under the Obama administration in 2011 and was naturalized again under the Obama administration. The lack of vetting, the lack of secure borders, the lack of even basic diligence on what people are doing once they're actually in the United States. You know, played that clip before of someone praising the Ayatollah. For what reason is Dearborn, Michigan, not being monitored for extremism? These aren't talks to one or two people. These are hundreds of people in a room that are constantly hearing over and over again that they're Hezbollah's children, that they're martyrs, that they're the next army of Khomeinian. And there was another clip I posted yesterday, actually, of a Christian resident of Dearborn going to a town council meeting and saying that he opposes that a street name in Dearborn is being named after Hezbollah. Hezbollah, mind you, murdered 241 Marines in a Marine barracks bombing in Beirut. And the mayor told him to get out and that he's being Islamophobic. The stuff that's happening, we become so desensitized to it because it's so frequent that I don't think we understand just how quickly crazy some of this is at this point. You have the Austin shooting, the ID attack. You have the shooting of the ROTC in Virginia. You have the Temple B. I mean, it's just. At what point do we say enough is enough and look at Europe and say, I don't actually Want this to happen in the United States. We need to take action now before it just gets untenable.

[Charlie Kirk]

Ayala, Kobe, keep it up, man. Great for grateful for you making the time today. We're going to have you on again soon. God bless you, my friend.

[Eyal Yacobi]

Thank you guys for having me.

[Charlie Kirk]

Hi, folks. Andrew Colvett here. I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why Refi. You've probably been hearing me talk about why Refi? For some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments. Maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. Y Refi will provide you a custom payment based on your ability to pay. They tailor each loan individually. They can save you thousands of dollars, and you can get your life back. We go to campuses all over America and we see student after student who's drowning in private student loan debt. Many of them don't even know how much they owe. Yrefi can help. Just go to yrefi.com that's the letter Y. Then refi.com and remember why Refi doesn't care what your credit score is. Just go to yrefi.com and tell them your friend Andrew sent you. It's an Ask us Anything hour so you can participate in this. Become a member members.charliekirk.com, members.charliekirk. com and you come on the show and you ask us questions. And we are welcoming Danny. Yep. Good to be back. Producer Danny's here as he was. You were here last week? Yeah, I think I was, yeah. The days bleed together sometimes really quick. Before we get started, I want to throw up. 229. This is Lieutenant Colonel Brandon Shah. He was a victim of yesterday's terrorist attack. And you know, he was the leader of the university's ROTC at Old Dominion. And I just want to take a second to honor him because he was killed. He was a veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom, Operation Enduring Freedom, and Atlantic Resolve. And as Bill Milusian said, it just makes you sick to realize that he survived those conflicts abroad. And he comes home and gets killed by a terrorist here on home soil. Somebody that never should have been walking the streets that was convicted of being an ISIS sympathizer. Terrorist sympathizer. And for some reason, he was out on the streets. And so our hearts go out to him and his family and, you know, it's just an awful.

[Blake]

Another person who had a great life and was a great American hero and it was cut short because we have politicians who hate America and hate America's people and endlessly put them last.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yep, absolutely. So let's get to our first question. On that note, let's go to Anthony. Welcome back, Anthony. Happy Friday. Happy Friday, guys. How are y' all doing? Doing all right. Yesterday was pretty awful, but with all those attacks. But here we are. Yeah, I would agree with you. So this is an odd question, and I don't know if you guys can point me in the right direction. Back last week, my local planning board, one of the groups looking to propose a cell phone tower, brought up Maha when saying, you know, about health and everything, that the tower doesn't really give off radiation and the Maha movement doesn't know what they're talking about. And I know people are concerned about this. So my question now is to you guys. How can I get some information or does, like Maha have an email I can send something to maybe get some information from them about this? Because this major company said that that group doesn't know anything. So I'm not an expert on cell phone towers. I can tell you that they look hideous, even the ones that are dressed up like trees and things like that. So I'm a bit of a NIMBY when it comes to comes to cell phone towers.

[Blake]

I'm not a good guy to ask about Maha.

[Charlie Kirk]

Blake thinks I'm a big. Blake thinks everything is like, woo woo. He's a woo woo guy. And Blake will eat seed oils till the. Till the cows come home, you know, they say. So I'm just looking it up here, though. Cell phone towers emit radio frequency RF radiation, a type of non ionizing electromagnetic radiation used for wireless communication. They, you know, the companies involved in this say that it's safe. All I know is I've had a lot of people tell me, don't put your phone up to your ear, use speakerphone or whatever.

[Blake]

So it's funny because if you go to different communities, like, I don't think know if it's as common anymore. But for a long time, it was common for Asian communities to believe that power lines were really dangerous so you could get a cheaper.

[Charlie Kirk]

I've heard that one before.

[Blake]

Yeah, Korean Korea. There used to be a big urban legend that if you were in a room with a fan, it could cause you to die. So, like, you shouldn't be in an enclosed room with a fan. It would kill you overnight.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wow.

[Blake]

And they would even have automatic shut offs.

[Charlie Kirk]

There's Blake is.

[Blake]

Yeah, well, okay, it sounds silly to us, but then you probably. I get. I wouldn't be surprised if in China they share funny stories where like Americans think the cell phone tower will be used to mind control them or something.

[Charlie Kirk]

So it says, this is a study I'm looking at. It says overall, while regulatory bodies maintain that cell tower radiation is not harmful at typical distances, for example, a few hundred meters away, where exposure drops sharply, ongoing research and some evidence point to potential risks that warrant further investigations, particularly for long term continuous exposure. But here's what I'm gonna do. Anthony. I am going to contact Alex Clark on your question about this and see if she has any good resources and we'll email you back and if it's newsworthy enough, all we'll talk about on the show. I've been planning on getting Alex on with us so maybe we can do it then as well. You can also let her know this. They're putting it actually right next to one of our massive apple farms. Oh, interesting. So, so, so is there an agricultural impact? Yeah, that's what some people are trying to wonder. And there's Rhett, it's, it's on the corner of like the northwest corner of my county, like right before the next county. There's a massive apple farm there that's on both sides. And there's how there's normal houses because it rides right on Lake Ontario. And I'll tell you the company, it's Verizon. I mean lawyer for Verizon specifically mentioned Maha.

[Blake]

I feel like I'd be blunt. If they're worried about cell towers, I feel like it probably makes more sense to have it near apples than people. If they're worried about that sort of thing.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, it does. But there's still houses, there's still houses on the farm.

[Blake]

But in the end, I guess I, as the skeptic, I like to emphasize there's a lot of people and we can see the terminal stage of this in Europe where people will use health justifications, environmental justifications to basically push left wing agendas that are essentially anti civilization. In Europe at this point, their economy is tanking because they've essentially made electricity illegal building new power plants illegal. In Germany, Volkswagen is laying off thousands of workers because it's just too expensive to get the electricity to build cars. And if you're the left, that's a smashing success. You're getting rid of civilization. And it's gotten to the point where China's aware Of this, we have ample evidence of Chinese agents funding environmental activism in the United States to sabotage building microchip plants, to sabotage building other infrastructure because they know it makes America weaker. So that's my skeptical take. I know a lot of people are much more supportive of Maha stuff. You should talk to Alex Clark.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. You know what this reminds me of, though, is The San Francisco 49ers, how they're close to that electrical substation and all the players. Yeah.

[Blake]

And then players are like, that's why we get hurt.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Blake]

So, I mean, their entire team every year does. All I'm going to say is, I bet the Green Bay packers all the time. The Packers.

[Charlie Kirk]

What was that? What was that, Anthony? I'm a Niners fan, so, yeah, I have to agree with the players on this one.

[Blake]

I'm just going to say the packers are in a small city. They still get injured all of the time.

[Charlie Kirk]

I mean, it's football, but the Niners, it's football. Well, it's the Niners.

[Blake]

It's their best. I'm going to blame cell phone towers for us losing to the Bears.

[Charlie Kirk]

And the quarterback, it's always the. And they're whiteouts. It's always the quarterback, and the whiteouts hurt. Anthony, good to have you back on. Hopefully we hear from you again soon. I wasn't expecting this, I have to say, but Death of Recess, it stopped me in my tracks. This isn't about dodgeballs and jungle gyms. It's about control. The modern American classroom didn't just happen. It was intentionally designed. It was standardized and centralized. And once you see who built it and who protects it, everything clicks. Billions of dollars are flowing through education bureaucracies every year. Test scores collapse, and somehow the answer is always more money and less parental authority. The documentary breaks down how organizations like the NEA amassed enormous influence, how radical gender ideology entered classrooms, and why something as basic as recess, movement, freedom, childhood, you know, had to go. That's not random. That's systemic. Institutions protect themselves. They do not protect your kids. And that's why this documentary exists on Angel Studio streaming platform, Angel Guild. Angel Guild is willing to distribute films that challenge powerful systems when legacy media won't touch them. So right now, go to angel.comcharlie and watch death of Recess. Right now. If you're a parent or plan to be, you need to see this. That's angel.comcharlie and watch death of Recess. All right, next question. We've got Mick.

[Senator Eric Schmidt]

Alrighty.

[Charlie Kirk]

So with these Islam attacks. Sorry, I'm out of breath.

[Blake]

I was Walking around with these Islam attacks that have happened lately.

[Charlie Kirk]

Obviously Islam is not compatible with Western society, as Charlie talked about repeatedly. And so we do need to denaturalize people who believe fully in the Quran that believes that we should kill non Muslims. But the problem with that is that as Islam is classified as a religion,

[Blake]

there's a First Amendment protection.

[Charlie Kirk]

And so how do we effectively denaturalize those citizens that do believe that we should kill the intifada, if you will, while not violating the First Amendment.

[Blake]

This will be litigated, likely before the Supreme Court. Absolutely. I mean, it's tough. I know you run it sometimes. You'll see the take that Islam is not really a religion, it's a political ideology. I see where it comes from, but I will be blunt. It is a religious system by any reasonable standard. And America, as you're correct, America has freedom of religion. America has free exercise of religion. It's not a good thing if we suddenly are trying to carve out an exception where we just say this one, actually we can ban this one because who knows what that could be used against next, certainly by our enemies. But that is not necessarily incompatible with us recognizing big picture. It's not good if America becomes more Islamic. That we could say Muslims in America have the right to free exercise. But we've seen in the uk, in France, in Germany, that increasing the Islamic percentage of a country is bad for its long term prospects, bad for its social harmony, bad for Western civilization, and we should avoid continuing to engineer that. And so as you say, first of all, we don't need to pass a lot denaturalizing all Muslims. The guy we just had on in the first hour, the senator, his bill is to denaturalize people who support terrorism, who get involved in terrorism, welfare fraud and welfare fraud and all of that. And certainly with support for terrorism, that's going to be targeting the people who are most likely to embrace Islamic radicalism. And as we've seen with some of the groups that are involved in a lot of welfare fraud, that's also some of the groups driving the Islamization of America. So go after the crimes. And if that has a collateral effect that isn't, that doesn't mean the law itself is unconstitutional. But also we can just say, okay, we're going to adjust our immigration policies either by cutting immigration overall or changing which countries we accept it from to avoid increasing the Muslim percentage of the United States. We can do all of these things without violating the Constitution, without getting rid of freedom of religion. We are in fact allowed to say and prioritize that, okay, even if we have freedom of religion, we should keep America more Christian in its identity. We should not have America become an Islamic country. All of those things are compatible with the First Amendment. And we should, as a result, because it's possible to do that, we should avoid passing maybe bills that feel emotionally satisfying but are unconstitutional. You don't want someone to come out and just say, oh, we're going to ban all mosques or we're going to ban Islamic practice. Because then, yeah, you are just asking, get smackdown by the court, do the things that we very easily can do without violating the Constitution that will produce a lot of good long term benefits.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I agree. Ask follow up. Yeah, please do. So I guess my follow up is, you know, how do we build a coalition around that? We can say these things that, oh, we just want to get the terrorists out, but I think the left will be, will try and, you know, call our bluff and say, no, you just

[Blake]

want to get rid of all Muslims. I think a lot of, you know, you have to be fearless. The answer is you have to be fearless. We're seeing this in Europe where for a long time they lived in fear, but way more people are actually just having the courage to step up and say, look in the UK for example, they say, well, we can look at London, we can look at Birmingham, we can look at Manchester. These cities have Islamically motivated rape gangs. They're having Sharia start creeping into their schools, they're changing school policy where you can't offend Muslims, even though they're still a small minority of the overall country. And people are just standing up and saying, we don't have to support this, we can oppose this, you can call us racist or bigots and actually we don't care because there is nothing wrong with what we are advocating.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and by the way, Nigel Farage and Advance uk, they are going to win a majority if, if the election was held today, they would win.

[Blake]

And so that fearlessness is working in Europe and we just need to have that same fearlessness in the U.S. the willingness to speak up as Charlie did, as others are doing, has that ability to engineer its own coalition. A lot of the reason these coalitions don't exist is because people were afraid to create it, in my opinion.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, go ahead, Danny. Well, we saw this with like the transgender debate and how that came around with Matt Walsh and all that. We see it, it's a great way. Yeah, the illegal immigration, now how that's

[Blake]

fully won Trump the election so these

[Charlie Kirk]

issues, you can grow coalition by speaking up and actually bringing it to the transgenderism.

[Blake]

So great. Yeah. Everyone was terrified to say it, and we needed a little bit of a push. We needed a more free speech platform. So we owe Elon Musk a lot on that front. But once it became possible for people to speak up, honestly, it was really difficult to contain an idea that a lot of people were very ready to agree with. There's a thing called a preference cascade. Sometimes everyone is against something until finally one person steps up and says the other thing, and that gives the next person the courage to say, oh, I actually agree.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's Trump on immigration.

[Blake]

Yeah. And once there's two people who do it now there's 10 people. And once there's 10, you get the next 15. And that continues until you actually have a majority of the country behind something.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I agree with Blake. You have to do it. Respecting the Constitution. But guess what? We don't want any more Muslim immigration. I'm saying it. So let's stop the bleeding, first of all. The second thing I would say is go into every mosque that's radicalizing young men, go into every website that's radicalizing young men to commit acts of terror into ISIS sympathizing websites. Block them all. Block them. I don't care what you gotta do. You prosecute where you can. Absolutely. Hi, folks. Andrew Colvett here. I'd like to tell you about my friends over at Y Refi. You've probably been hearing me talk about why Refi? For some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments. Maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. Yrefi will provide you a custom payment based on your ability to pay. They tailor each loan individually. They can save you three thousands of dollars and you can get your life back. We go to campuses all over America and we see student after student who's drowning in private student loan debt. Many of them don't even know how much they owe. Yrefi can help. Just go to yrefi.com that's the letter Y. Then refi.com and remember why Refi doesn't care what your credit score is. Just go to yrefi.com and tell them your friend Andrew sent you. All right, I'm gonna read some of your emails here real quick. Aaron says I'm against cell Phone towers around houses and farmlands don't hurt the people and the food. There is hazardous effects. Vernon says he's a.5G is modifying the way people act. We can ignore it now and suffer the consequences.

[Blake]

So I agree with that. 5G is modified in how people act because they're on their cell phones all the time and on social media all the time.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's. He means something different. Tammy says yes, cell towers are very damaging to humans. RFK has all kinds of documents and studies on the damage. So Blake needs to do some deep research on Yandex or Free Spoke, not G. So there's your instruction. Mary says Republican senators have now pledged to use a standing talking filibuster to force a vote on the Save America act. But these 25 GOP senators still have not. Call them out. Yes, leave a message. You should call them out. Barrasso, Bozeman, Shelley Moore, Capito, Tom Cotton, Susan Collins, Kevin Kramer, Mike Crapo, John Curtis, Steve Danes, Deb Fisher, Lindsey Graham, Chuck Grassley, John Hovind, John Kennedy, who he just had on this week. John Kennedy, by the way, said he's in favor of putting it in the reconciliation bill. So there's maybe. Maybe that's what some of these guys are doing. Lankford, get him out of Congress for all I care. Mitch McConnell, he's on his way out. Jerry Morin, Lisa Murkowski, Pete Ricketts, Tim Scott, John Thune, Tom Tillis, Roger Wicker, Todd Young. If your senator is on that list, please call them asap. David says we should not allow dual citizens. I actually agree. Totally agree. Go all in for America or don't go in at all. Just leave. Go to the other one. What else do we got here? So basically, Jax has a point. He says any religion that justifies murder is a cult. So he doesn't think it should qualify. I think that would be legally dubious to try and classify Islam as a cult.

[Blake]

I just.

[Charlie Kirk]

I don't know.

[Blake]

I don't think that necessarily has clear legal distinctions. Yeah, I mean, you can't just do illegal things just because your religion calls you to do it. You aren't allowed to do murder, you aren't allowed to do robbery. You aren't allowed to do a bunch of things. Yeah, just because you say your religion ordains it. But as long as you're not doing those things, even if your religion is associated with that, just. We have a pretty broad freedom of religion in the United States, just like we have by far the broadest freedom of speech laws in the world. We should protect those things. We want to protect those things. And one reason we should resist letting

[Charlie Kirk]

in

[Blake]

too much Islamic immigration is because it will imperil that tradition of ours. Because if we start having a non stop problem of radical Islam and radical Islamic attacks, that is how you're going to end up losing freedom of religion in this country.

[Charlie Kirk]

Your friend says, you know, he says he wants a response issue is sedition and treason. Prosecute and firing squads or work camps. It's pretty.

[Blake]

That's. That's one approach.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's one approach. Again, we have to do what's actually doable. Yeah.

[Blake]

Let's get to our next guy in the queue. I think we have Jonathan next.

[Charlie Kirk]

So I have two questions. Hey, Blake, how it goes?

[Blake]

Howdy.

[Charlie Kirk]

I don't know if you remember me or not.

[Blake]

Did we meet at America Fest or in an email? All right.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes, we did. So, yeah, my dad had a heart attack and actually Charlie Kirk was the reason he's doing so well because he. We were so much closer to a good art hospital down in Arizona when I took him on vacation and would have been where we live. I'm wondering, did you ever get a chance to read that email I sent you on my opposing abortion lesson and what your thoughts were on it?

[Blake]

I. I think I did. Although just. I'll be, I'll be truthful. We do get a large number of you. Do you want to remind me what the, what the key points of it were?

[Charlie Kirk]

The key points were basically we need to protect innocent lives from the moment of conception. Everyone is designed by God to have a relationship with him. And it is actually really helpful for America in terms of how we repent and how we actually bring people back to God is how we protect the unborn and restore marriage. And that's the basic idea.

[Blake]

Well, I mean, obviously I think all of us agree with that. I think Charlie agrees with that, or Charlie obviously would agree with that. We do need to fight for the unborn from, from the moment of conception because that is a human life from the beginning. Now I would, we would discuss this with Charlie. What is the best way to go about that? Because a thing I once told Charlie that I, you know, impressed, had a big effect on him is I talked about how in Canada. We've talked a lot about Canada. In Canada, the pro life movement basically doesn't exist. Yeah, they have a conservative party, but there's not really any party that offers a real constituency for pro life voices. Abortion is effectively totally unregulated in Canada. You just an unborn child does not exist until they come out of the mother. And before that, you can do anything you want. You can basically kill them up to the moment of birth. No crime is committed, no regulations exist. And I've always made the point to Charlie, we have to be careful with our approach to abortion laws because we should pass the strongest laws that are capable of holding up if we are aggressive to the point where we just lose elections. Here's what you get. You get Democrats passing Canada style laws and you get squishes in the Republican Party who say we lost because we were too anti abortion. We need to get these people out of the coalition. There were people absolutely ready to do that in 2024. If Trump had lost, they would have said, we lost because of this pro life people. Get them out of the coalition. Thankfully, it didn't happen. Thankfully we were able to win. We have more pro life policies as a result. Thankfully. We've even had, in Florida and South Dakota, we had pro abortion measures fail at the ballot box. But I would say, and Charlie would say, I think that you do have to view this as a long war that you have to keep doing the effort to win over other Christians, to win over non believers on this issue, to change hearts and minds bit by bit. So if you're a conservative, I want

[Charlie Kirk]

to be able to give a lesson on it and I want you to review it and let me know what you think.

[Blake]

Okay, well, feel free to send it again. Freedomarlie, Kirk, we can take a look at it again.

[Charlie Kirk]

I do want to flag something here just because we got a lot of emails about the cell phone towers. Oh, man. Yeah. So William says, I retired as an RF engineer approving locations of cell towers. And I said, are they safe? He wrote back, basically, cell towers are safe because the FCC has defined safe distances for near field and far field at microwave frequency distances less than 3 meters. Near field, far field, which are dependent on operating frequencies. We found that the majority of objections to cell towers are aesthetic, not radiation. The exposure from your kitchen microwave is more. So that's. That's from William, who was a guy that worked approving locations for cell towers. It's an interesting. An interesting perspective. I just wanted to work it in. Who's. Who's next? Rain, Rain, rain. Welcome to the show. Please unmute yourself. Hello. Hi. Welcome. Hey, guys. Thank you for calling on me, first of all. Absolutely. I called y' all before. It was pretty shortly after Charlie's brutal assassination. And you, I don't know if you remember, I told you. About the bracelet that I was still wearing. Yes, yes, I remember you. Yes. So, anyway, I want you guys to know I pray for y' all every day. Thank you, thank you, thank you. You, God, I pray for y' all in what. Anyway, I just try and I know I shared the story about my daughter, about how she was. I don't know if I can say this on air, how she was raped by the New Orleans police officer and the five long dragged out years that it took for us to get justice and just how much I plugged into Charlie every day. And, and that was definitely part of my therapy, you know, that got me through those years. And. Anyway, okay, moving along. So my question, or, you know, there's a multi level question. So the midterms, Trump's win was undoubtedly due to Charlie's influence and everything that y' all did, you know, to put people, you know, if they flew in. Because I had signed up, I wanted to come to Arizona and help y', all, and I couldn't because of my, my dog at the time, I didn't have anybody to watch him. But y' all were everywhere. Wisconsin, Arizona. I forget the other states, but. Well, are you asking, are we going to do that in the future? Yeah. Are y' all planning to, to do something with the midterms? Yeah, I'll, I'll give you the, I'll give you the rundown here. So at Turning Point Action, we're already staffing up for the midterms, like all over the country, but we're gonna be focused on three main states. And the reason. I'll explain the reason for that. And this was Charlie's plan, by the way. We're calling it the Red Wall because the way the census has shifted population to the Sun Belt, you can actually, if you bring in New Hampshire, which a lot of people don't understand, has more conservatives, more registered Republicans than Democrats. 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[Blake]

Do I do. Ian.

[Charlie Kirk]

Ian. Ian. Ian. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Unmute yourself please. Hey guys, how you doing? Can you hear me? Great. Awesome. Well, it's been a been a long week, but I was just curious how I've been doing A lot of discipleship classes and, you know, Hillsdale as well, too, has been great. I was just curious, how can we all be better disciples and kind of tie things back to Jesus? Because I feel like a lot of times I'll get in a discussion with someone and I'll, like, make my point. I'm like, man, I could have tied that back to Jesus afterwards.

[Senator Eric Schmidt]

So I'm just wondering how we can all do.

[Charlie Kirk]

All do better about that. Because Charlie was magnificent about that, to the point where people had to ask him, without the Bible, can you defend abortion or can you defend this? So how can we all do better like that? Yeah, I would just say that Charlie was pretty adamant about being able to defend his positions from both a secular perspective using logic and the Socratic method. And he was also able to do that from a biblical perspective. So I would just say that, you know, trust the Spirit, listen to the Spirit. When you feel the Holy Spirit nudging you to bring up the Lord in a specific conversation, do so. But don't always necessarily. You don't always have to feel like you have to, you know, I would say wait for that moment and pray about it, be listening. You know, sometimes Christians can be guilty of forcing it in where it doesn't naturally fit or if it's not the right time. And that could be. I don't know, sometimes it could be a turnoff. But listen, I think when you're talking, Charlie did a lot of extemporaneous speaking, a lot of public addresses where he would. Then it was very appropriate for him to bring it in and to weave in his faith into his speaking, because that's what he was doing. But in those interactions between folks, I would say, I don't know, Danny, like, 80% of the time, he wouldn't bring it up. So it just kind of depended on the nature of that exchange. If he was gonna weave that it was by.

[Blake]

Each person was different, so they would

[Charlie Kirk]

know based off how to go about it. But also just, you have to memorize scripture. That was a big thing that obviously we see in all the videos that Charlie was so good at that. But just reading the Bible and focusing on trying to memorize certain scripture or just themes in scripture will help you a lot when tying stuff back. Yeah, yeah.

[Blake]

I mean, big picture. I think about it. Charlie was big about building habits. And the way you get better at it is you build steadily, build the habit the same way you go to the gym more often. If you make a big point of go every single day for or you know, go three times a week for a month straight, two months straight, you now have that habit. Once you start the habit, you'll stick to it. So if you make a point where anytime you're in, you know, maybe have like a clicker in your head, something to remind you, some sort of thing to remind you where anytime I'm in a discussion about a moral issue or political issue, find a way to bring it back to Christ, back to the gospel, after a while, you'll be doing

[Charlie Kirk]

it automatically, and I would say again, use the Socratic method. Charlie was expert at this, where you just, you ask questions and you drill down to the core fundamental objection that somebody has or disagreement or where you feel like they're getting something wrong. And once you get to that core motivator, that core driver, I find that more often than not, then you're getting to a moral question, right? So you stop arguing about maybe some specific or small little minutia, you're getting to a core fundamental value proposition. And then when you drill down that deep, you find out what's really getting at them, then I think it becomes more fundamental, it becomes more important to bring up where your moral drivers are, where your value foundations are coming from. And then you bring up scripture, you bring up the Lord. So hopefully that helps. Ian, thanks for your question. We're gonna go to Brandon. Brandon, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Good morning, guys. Morning.

[Blake]

So my question is, it's something I wanted to ask Charlie, but I never got around to it. And it's, what are your guys's thoughts or takes on the sociological debate regarding nature versus nurture?

[Charlie Kirk]

I have a lot, but I have,

[Blake]

I have quite, I've sometimes I, I some time sum it up that people genuinely, they really, really want to believe it's almost all nurture, I would say, if you look at studies say. But if you look at a lot of the evidence that's emerged over the last few decades, it's generally been tilting more and more towards nature for a lot of things, which is actually good news. Like, I think a lot of. For example, I think a reason a lot of people don't have as many kids in the US is they get obsessed with the idea that they have to do everything perfectly or it's all over for their kids. They'll fail out of school, they'll become drug addicts. And actually, if you're, you know, a pretty good responsible parent and you're married to another good, responsible person, chances are the child you have will be good and responsible without you needing to kill yourselves to bring it about, and that's generally good news. That's a reason to have more kids. That's a reason to be more relaxed about a lot of things. And it also means on the end, we don't necessarily need to move heaven and earth. Like, we've got infinity programs where they say, okay, well, if we spend another $300,000, we can rehabilitate this criminal, because the real problem is he was just raised in a bad home. No, some people are just rotten, and the best thing to do is just remove them from society. That stinks. But that's how it is.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. I mean, I've been contemplating this question a lot. Blake and I have had discussions offline about it. You know, this is one of the reasons why we love and want to protect Western civilization. We believe it's the product of thousands of years, and it doesn't mean white people or anything. I'm talking about the cultural upbringing of people in Western civilization and the fact that, you know, we had centuries with really, really strict laws, right, where people would, you know, they were basically killing a lot of people that stole. If you stole a horse, if you stole. Like, they would literally just. We've been essentially purging the society for years of criminal elements, and now we're getting soft on it. And you're seeing a lot of people that basically are still on the streets that shouldn't be. And we're seeing this with repeat offenders that shouldn't be. I do think that as a result, there are cultures that just succeed. Much better. You see this Asian cultures are massively efficient. And I think that you have to reject tabula rasa in a general sense. And then you have to balance that with your Christian ethics that we are all children of God and we are all made in the image and likeness of God. So it's a bit of a balance, and there's a bit of both. And. But I think Blake. I tend to agree with Blake's take. Does that answer your question?

[Blake]

Yes, it does. That's.

[Charlie Kirk]

I know it's a sociological question, and

[Blake]

sociology gets a lot of hate, but I think that question and the. Is human nature good or bad? Are two fundamental questions to the way of life. Sociology could be a real field if it just had serious people do it. It could be. There's so many interesting things in sociology.

[Charlie Kirk]

That question, though, are people fundamentally good or bad? A lot of people get this wrong because they. Especially Christians, because they say, we're sinners, so we're bad.

[Blake]

The Pope even said at one point

[Charlie Kirk]

that we're all born as good. And he yes, the point is, God made us good. And then there was a fall. Yep, we were made good, then there was a fall. And that's why we have laws and locked doors.

[Blake]

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