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Charlie Kirk
My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You gotta stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Point USA College chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA High School chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life. And I encourage you to do the same. Here I am, Lord.
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Mark Halperin
Use me.
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Charlie Kirk
Buckle up, everybody.
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Mark Halperin
Here we go.
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Charlie Kirk
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Andrew Colvett
all right, welcome, everybody, to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is July 27, 2026. Honored to be with you all. Blake is on assignment today, so I'm going to be holding it down solo, excited to be with everybody at the why Refi Studios remote edition, of course. And Blake does not get to steal my mic flag today, which I'm very excited about. Nevertheless, he'll be back, I believe, on Wednesday. So today and tomorrow it'll just be me. We have a great show in store for you. We've got Mark halperin on at 12:30 Eastern. We're going to be talking about the primary schedule for the Democrats, what it reveals. We're going to be talking about J.D. vance and the proxy war that seems to be emerging around his potential candidacy in 2028. Then we've got Jay Feely, who is running for Congress, and he just won his primary out of CD1 in Arizona. He's a great, great candidate. Excited to get behind him all the way. And then we've got Rich Barris, pollster extraordinaire, to finish us out at 130. Some headwinds we got to deal with and see what we can do to fix them in ahead of November. So that's a big start. I want to begin the show, however, talking about dsa. There was some revealing clips that came out over the weekend of the people that run the Democrat Socialists of America party platform and what they actually believe. And I want to Explain where this is coming from. And there's a clip that we never played on the show from Secretary Marco Rubio that I think is just so prescient, it is so important that you really internalize what he's saying in this clip, because I think it's fundamentally accurate. Now, Marco, of course, you know, without weighing into the horse race on the Republican side ahead of 2028, Marco is one of the most eloquent communicators when it comes to the issue of socialism and Marxism. Part of that obviously comes from his background, his proximity to Cuba, his own Cuban heritage, and understanding that dynamic extraordinarily well. It's not been something that snuck up on Marco Rubio. He's been thinking deeply about this problem and what he has perceived as the rise of this ideology in the United States for a long time. And therefore, he is a great tip of the spear when it comes to countering it. So this was a speech that Secretary Rubio gave on July 15. Again, we didn't play the clip then. It. It bears repeating, though, that this is one of the most eloquent defenses of the capitalist system of the American way, and against Marxism and socialism. So let's play the clip. Stop. 14.
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Marco Rubio
This is a distinctive and unique evil. It has always been driven by a hatred above all else, a hatred for civilization itself. It is a revolt of the worst against the best, a revolt of the weak and the cowardly against the strong and the good. It is perpetrated by those who cannot build, who cannot create, who cannot achieve great things and take their revenge upon the world for their own inadequacy by seeking to destroy those who can. This is what radical leftism is. It may wear various different slogans and ideologies across place and time, but the fundamental character is over. Always the same. It's always the same. It is a poisonous resentment cloaked in the language of equality and justice, liberation and overwhelming need to tear down what greater men have built.
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Andrew Colvett
A poisonous resentment. And that's exactly right. And it is a flattening of everything he goes on in this speech to say that it makes everything low and gray. You lose every exceptional characteristic of the human soul. And ultimately, that is what has made America so powerful, so amazing, so exceptional, so rich, so innovative, so pioneering. And the dsa, this rise that you're seeing, now that we hear that over a majority of Democrats have a favorable view of socialism in this country, we must address it. And this was just from this weekend. DSA co chair Megan Romer confirms that their party platform Includes a host of terrifying planks. It is a terrifying potential reality that we must take seriously. Sat 7 so we're going to put
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Megan Romer
up on the screen a few of the things that are part of your platform. And I want to ask you, just give me sort of a true or false on these. Abolish the Senate.
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Marco Rubio
True.
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Megan Romer
Okay. Replace the presidency and Supreme Court as we now know them.
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Andrew Colvett
Yep.
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Megan Romer
Abolish ice. Absolutely. Abolish borders and give amnesty to anyone currently in the US illegally. As a long term plan. Yep. Defund the Pentagon. Absolutely. Abolish prisons, at least in large part.
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Rich Barris
Yeah.
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Megan Romer
Again, as part of a long term program. Yeah. Okay. So no prisons, government or public ownership of most large corporations.
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Andrew Colvett
Yeah, absolutely. They want to abolish prisons. Defund the Pentagon. Abolish ice. Destroy the Senate. Their vision for America, their idea of what to do with it is simply to destroy it. Whatever ideology that is undergirding their entire policy platform is exactly what Secretary Rubio articulated just moments ago is poisonous resentment masked as virtuism. It is a terrifying potentiality for this country. And it's not just her. She's not just some exception to the rule.
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Jay Feely
No.
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Andrew Colvett
She is articulating what they believe. I have proof. There's another DSA co chair, Ashik Sadiq. Quite the name that basically says, yeah, this is exactly what we believe. She's not the outlier here. What you just heard, this is mainstream within the DSA, which is now becoming mainstream within the Democrat Party. SOP 5 We just don't see the point of the Senate.
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Jay Feely
Historically it was meant to serve very wealthy people who owned a lot of land. And that's still a system that we have today. And it's something we would change. We would expand what the House of
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Andrew Colvett
Representatives does and make it more actually
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Jay Feely
representative of people who live in this country.
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Andrew Colvett
So would you like to abolish the Senate? That's part of our platform.
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Jay Feely
And we don't think that's extreme. We think it's a change that would help make this country more democratic.
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Andrew Colvett
So the extremists are taking over the Democrat Party. What do you plan to do if you defund the Pentagon? How are you going to protect yourself in a world full of terrorists and people that wish ill on this country? What are you going to do? Without prisons? Evil is real. We see this in almost every single blue jurisdiction around the country. They don't believe in cash bail, so they just let everybody out. They maim and murder and rape and pillage and terrorize local communities. You are more likely to be put in harm's way in a blue jurisdiction simply because they refuse to lock people up. What are they going to do? They believe in a nirvana. They believe in a utopian idea that is terrifying, that people aren't innately full of sin. We as Christians understand that the sin nature leads people to do bad things and that we need to be redeemed and the state needs to step in and protect us. At times, their vision for the future of this country is anarchy. Let me ask you a question. 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Okay, the problem that Democrats are going to face is that with independents only, it's like 15 to 20% have a favorable view of it. 77% do not like socialism. They have an unfavorable view of socialism. So that's gonna be something that plays into our politics, at least in the short term. Hopefully that trend continues. Hopefully. Independence, which is a growing portion of the population. People don't want to be affiliated necessarily with a political party as much as they did in the past. Understandably so. Both parties let us down all the time. So that's gonna play into our politics in a major way. Now this is the offer of socialism. I think Mayor Mom Donnie presents the flowery language, the promises of free stuff. We call it free stuff. Populism. It was where this was gonna go inevitably. And Charlie knew this. This is Mayor Mom Donnie talking about his grocery store idea. Here you go. Sat 19. Here's how it will work. Once a month, our five city run grocery stores will set prices for this core set of goods at 30% below typical retail prices. No exceptions, no gimmicks. The savings will last for the entire month. All right, so he's going to give you cheaper stuff, government funded stuff, by the way. He's now going to tax New Yorkers if they have a second home that they use as a vacation place. He's bragging about it. So he's going to force all the capital to flee New York, but he's still going to promise all these free goodies based on a depleted income base, a tax base that's getting smaller, not larger, because that's what happens in socialism. Smart people, productive people, the great people that the people that built this country and that continue to make it thrive and to continue to make it rich, they will flee to red states where they don't have to put up with this garbage. But they don't really talk about that, do they? But again, I go back to Marco Rubio. This is a man who thought long and hard about socialism because of his Cuban background. And he points out why it sounds good, but why it's really, really bad. And it will rob you of your freedoms. Sat 16.
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Marco Rubio
Democratic socialism sounds benign, but at the core of democratic socialism is Marxism. And at the core of Marxism is this fake offer that if you turn over more of your individual freedom, we're going to provide you security, we're going to provide you free health care, we're going to provide you free education. But the problem is that when they can't deliver on it or when you're not happy with it, you don't get your freedoms back. And by freedoms, I don't just mean elections I'm talking about the right to choose your own doctor, the right to make health care decisions for yourself. What your kids learn in school, what schools they go to, all that stuff you lose control over and you don't get it back just because the, the, the security they promised you didn't happen. So that's what we're on the verge of having to decide here in this country. It's a lot. It's the reason why people flee countries that have this stuff. It's a big deal for America, and I hope people start waking up to that reality.
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Andrew Colvett
That's exactly right. So they promise you free health care, they promise you free schooling, they promise you all of these things, but when they fail to deliver a superior product, you lose that freedom once you give it over to them. To have any choice, to have any selection, to be able to determine where your kid goes to school, what they learn, to determine what kind of goods and services you're able to buy, that is ultimately the endpoint for Marxism. That's why when you go to a grocery store in Cuba or a grocery store in Russia, the options are very limited. And if you don't like it, too bad you don't get any other options. You don't get it to select something that's superior because it's a flattening. It's a permanent state of gray and lowness. And meanwhile, the tax base is fleeing to Florida. Mom. Donnie. But here's the, here's the kicker. And this is what we need to know. And by the way, aoc, they just did a New Hampshire primary poll. Breaking news. AOC is in first place in New Hampshire. She is a Democrat, Socialist, and she is leading the presidential primary polling for Democrats in New Hampshire. So this is coming to a community near you very, very soon. And so you need to wake up to how urgent the need is. But Charlie understood this. He understood that we are on a race against the clock. As conservatives, our ideas must prevail and they must be successful soon and very soon, or else more and more young people with the affordability crisis, the housing crisis, not being able to afford to start a family and get married, that problem will cause radical politics to emerge in this country. And it's already doing it. And Charlie knew it. Sat 20.
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Charlie Kirk
Look, you got two options. You can go maga or magionism. You can go maga or you can go Mamdaniism. You can go maga or you can go Mohammed ism. It's very funny how all the M's. Maga is the only option on the right. Neoconservatives are not coming back. The corporate oligarchs. We're not gonna let him. So MAGA has cemented the worldview of the American right, but the left, we don't know. It could go Magione, which is the most extreme. You could go Mamdani, which is very, very extreme. Or you go Mohammedi, Mohammedism, which is just, you know, Muslim, Islamic takeover. You get reform or you get revolution. We at Magawana, reform stuff. Political undercurrent underneath Maggione that cannot be ignored, that should not be dismissed. And that political reality is that is on the American left.
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Andrew Colvett
Very prescient from Charlie. We have two options ahead of us. Reform or revolution. Hope we get it right. All right, without further ado, we have the great Mark Halperin, editor in chief of Two Way TV and host of Next up on the Megyn Kelly Network. Mark, welcome back to the show. It's great to have you. And there's no Blake today. You just get me. So I apologize or you're welcome, depending on how you say things. Mark, there's two things I want to talk about. I want to talk about JD because you went viral for a clip explaining kind of what the dynamic is. Okay. And I want to talk about Democrat primaries because it's already heating up ahead of 2028. So let's start there. Let's start with the Democrat primaries. There was a poll that came out out of New Hampshire that had AOC leading. And there was an open question. Are the Democrats gonna start with New Hampshire? They're gonna start with South Carolina. Are they gonna start with Nevada? All had different tactical decisions behind them. But it's just a very interesting glance and insight into the inner workings of the Democrat operation, the establishment. I'm going to play a little clip of AOC reacting to being on top of the New Hampshire Democratic primaries. Early days, but it's still noteworthy. SOP 4.
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Rich Barris
Second of all, I don't know if you saw there's a new university New
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Andrew Colvett
Hampshire poll showing you leading in the
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Jay Feely
presidential race in New Hampshire.
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Andrew Colvett
What are your thoughts about that?
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Megan Romer
Polls are polls in a horse race as a whole. I am, of course, I think, very deeply humbled and grateful to, you know, folks who participate and convey that confidence. And, you know, it's. I'm honestly. I think my main focus is really genuinely just the midterms right now. We have to make sure that we win this majority.
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Andrew Colvett
She. She. She did the fake. The fake brag, the humble brag. Very well, there, Mark, explain to our audience what the rationale for different states being picked first and what we can surmise from the fact that South Carolina was indeed picked.
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Megan Romer
Well.
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Mark Halperin
There's no way to make a calendar that doesn't favor or disadvantage some potential candidates and others. There's no equal way to do it. And there's no way to do it to pick the perfect calendar to advantage the Democratic Party. What's the Democratic Party's goal? It's to get the strongest nominee who can win a general election. Right. So in the olden days before you were born, the calendar was set. It was Iowa, New Hampshire, and then everything after that moved around, but didn't really matter because Iowa, New Hampshire were disproportionately influential. The Democratic Party has decided that those two states cannot go first in large part because they're not diverse. And. And there's something to that. But when you take those two states out of the equation, Iowa completely, at New Hampshire going third, you're asking for trouble because you're asking for unpredictability. You're welcoming unpredictability, and you're asking voters who pay far less attention than Iowa and New Hampshire voters do to make your selection. In this case, you could imagine that behind the scenes, a candidate who would like South Carolina to be first, or more than one, were engaged in machinations. I see no sign of that. This is basically made because the Democratic Party wanted a state with a large percentage of the electorate being black voters to go first. And so now the question is, who. Who advantage? Who is advantaged by that?
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Andrew Colvett
By.
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Mark Halperin
For prospective candidates, one person's clearly advantageous. Kamala Harris. I don't know that this is good for aoc, honestly. It could be, but it's not clear that it is.
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Andrew Colvett
Yeah, I tend to see the same thing here, Mark. I. When they picked South Carolina, I thought it was a huge snub at North New Hampshire, right, where AOC is winning. But you know what's interesting? I think the Democrat Party. We had Evan Barker on last week, Mark, and she was talking about her view inside the Democrat apparatus. She was a fundraiser for them, and she felt like the party in general learned the wrong lesson from the Obama years, that it became, instead of the message of Obama, which was sort of colorblind and we're all one, the Democrat Party took it into this complete, I would say, race to the bottom with, you know, racial grievances, tribalism, identity politics. And it feels like that's continuing on. The whole tribalization of the Democrat Party is Who are you going to favor? A white state, New Hampshire, more Hispanic leading state, state in Nevada or a more black leaning state in South Carolina? And that is going to have ramifications down the road. It feels like everything in the Democrat Party has become a question about those racial politics. I don't think that's a winner, Mark, actually, because I think they're, that's is going to disadvantage their stronger candidates. But Kamala Harris and aoc, Kamala's polling down at the bottom. I think we have that New Hampshire poll here. If you guys want to throw that up. It's. Let me see which number it is here. Yeah, number three. Okay, so you got aoc, this is New Hampshire. AOC is at the top. Buttigieg, Mark Kelly, Gavin Newsom, Bernie Sanders and then Kamala in New Hampshire. I haven't seen the polling in South Carolina, but we have to guess that this is, I guess the real question here is, Mark, are they rigging it again? Is the Democrat establishment rigging the primary again for their favorite candidates and does well, are you hearing that Kamala has the sort of pool internally to get this type of stuff done? Is she, is she the preferred candidate of the establishment?
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Mark Halperin
She's not at all. And again, I believe this happened not to favor a candidate, but to put their finger on the scale, as you said, for black voters in today's Democratic Party, not even or not. It's not just the super woke who say New Hampshire too white to go first. It's just too white for the party. And, and look, there's something to that. Not only is it almost entirely white, with the exception of Manchester and Portsmouth, it doesn't really have cities. Right. So ideally, if you're, if you're trying to be fair and equitable and produce the strongest possible nominee, you want a state that is representative of the country. You want someone who. And representative of the party, you want someone who can win. Show some stuff. Now if you go first, you don't necessarily have as much influence as if you go third or fourth. Because if you go first, you're not going to narrow it down to one. You're going to narrow it down to anywhere from two to five. Okay. And so South Carolina, by going first, has taken away the role it had which was basically pick the president, pick or pick the nominee. Now they're going to be in the winnowing business business. And so now even if you're Pete Buttigieg, who's not displayed very much ability to get black vote, you got to try so, so I think everybody's going to go to South Carolina and try. It's also a red state. It's not a purple state or a blue state. Some people say, well, that's not good for the party. Well, I think it is. Go compete for red voters. Go compete for more conservative voters. And, and, and, and on paper, it should defend benefit Kamala Harris, who has the strongest support amongst black voters right now. But let's see. And let's see. Of course, even if she runs. So the answer to your first question is, as I said, I don't think this was meant to favor any candidate. It will, it will end up doing that, but I don't think that was the intention.
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Andrew Colvett
Yeah, I think that's interesting. I think it becomes more interesting, Mark, because we are looking at a Democrat party that is so divided right now between this rising far left DSA cohort within its ranks, which really has captured so much of the grassroots energy and the more establishment wing. I looked at the choice of South Carolina that this is a favor. This is them trying to stack the deck in favor of the more moderate wing of the party to give them a leg up as they head into that second, third, fourth primary states. That, that was my, my guess.
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Mark Halperin
You really think that, you really see
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Andrew Colvett
if I'm right or wrong.
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Mark Halperin
You really think the DNC wanted to have a more moderate candidate, maybe pretty
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Andrew Colvett
liberal group, I mean, I think for electability in a general presidential election? Yeah, probably. But they did the same, because they did the same thing with Hillary and Bernie and they've done the same thing against Bernie actually twice. But they, so that's the question.
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Mark Halperin
Left. They've moved left. But, but I'll say if you wanted to stack it for a more establishment candidate, I don't know that this would have been the right pick. I think, I think Nevada or Michigan might have been a better first choice. I really think. You don't know what was in the hearts of and the minds of everyone, every member of the committee. But I really do think the primary driver here was they wanted, they wanted a state that was interested. Right. Not every state applies. They want to start with a smaller state, a state that's got affordable television advertising rates, a state that geographically you can get across and campaign in where, where the playing field somewhat level. And you want, you want to reward black voters because they're such a big part of the Democratic constituency. So you also run a risk if you pick a state that's never gone early before. Because if you go early, there's a lot of pressure. And lastly, and I think this is probably a big reason, it's reportedly a big reason why they chose it over Nevada. You want a state that can count quickly. You can't, you can't have the first primary take so long to count the votes that the second primary is already happening. Right. And, and we know from the last presidential cycle, Nevada, Nevada doesn't, doesn't count very fast. You got to know in the, in the case these rapid fire primaries every week or so, you got to know who won like that night. You can't let it go. They can't let it hang.
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Andrew Colvett
Yeah, I think. Well, that's just, I mean, so you're basically telling me California is never going to get selected because that's part of the reason.
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Mark Halperin
But it's also. Yes, but it's also too big. Yeah, but it's also too big. I mean, California famous for not counting quickly. But, but think about the last few presidential cycles when, when we've been waiting for weeks for Nevada to count.
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Andrew Colvett
Yeah, no, exactly. It's, it's way too long. Good conversation is about respect. It's how we create a space where people are able to share their ideas and be heard. Charlie knew that. Turning Point still knows that. And TikTok has always strived to, to build the kind of place that thrives on respectful connection, where curiosity fuels connection and we can share what's on our minds and learn from each other. When ideas meet respect, good things happen. On TikTok, you can find a mechanic explaining the why behind a problem most of us wouldn't even know how to name. Or a father sharing a lifetime of knowledge with his viewers. Viewers who listen, discuss, and then they respond. TikTok turns connection into community through small acts of understanding. You can feel it in the comments, in the thank you from a stranger halfway across the world. TikTok is a place where respect opens the door for discussion and discussion helps us build something real. Mark, you went viral for this clip. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna play the clip and then we'll go from there. This is of course on jd. We had a whole long conversation about this last week. A lot of people clipped up our show as well. It seems like JD is the proxy right now. Sat 2.
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Mark Halperin
But what we're seeing now, with people lashing out at JD Vance, it is largely the establishment who sees in some cases the opportunity to break the Trump grip on the Republican Party, to go back to a Republican Party that they liked before. And JD Vance isn't kowtowing to that. He's not catering to that. What he did on Rogan is, is that's the real J.D. vance saying things other people won't say.
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Andrew Colvett
Really fascinating clip there, Mark. And I thought it was so succinct. Explain this dynamic because, you know, we, back in 2016, we had the Never Trumpers. You know, there was the COVID of the National Review, and it felt like basically Trumpism and MAGA won and there's a resurgence. And it seems like Marco and JD are that proxy battle heading into 2028. What, what is, what are the dynamics at play and what are you watching for?
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Mark Halperin
Well, you can't paint with too broad a brush.
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Megan Romer
Right.
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Mark Halperin
Not everybody who doesn't like J.D. vance or opposes him for the nomination is motivated by a desire to return to The Romney, Bush, McCain Republican Party. But some of them are. Some of them are. Some of them don't like his position on Israel. Some of them don't like him personally. But what's, what's beyond doubt is the level of vitriol for him is quite high. And some of it can't quantify how much. But some of it is driven by people who say Trump's a lame duck. We cannot let MAGA continue to control this party. We have to go back, whether it's Israel or tariffs or taxes or whatever it is, we cannot go back to a pre, we have to go back to a pre Trump Republican Party. We cannot let MAGA continue to dominate the party. And, and it's fascinating because I went, you know, not everybody likes what JD Vance says, including to Joe Rogan. But, but go back and look at what he said and ask yourself, did he say anything that was wrong about Israel? Did he say anything that was wrong about taxes or the economy? They may not agree with him on his position, but his, but in terms of facts, with a few exceptions, he was spot on. And, and a lot of them privately agree with what he's saying. So their distaste for maga, their distaste for the Trump era. I asked him what it, what is it that you don't like? What is it besides Trump himself, besides his style, besides his violation of some norms? What is it that you don't like? And it's going to be fascinating to see JD Vance navigate this because since Rogan, he's largely been out of the limelight because he just had a kid. So I'll be curious to see how he speaks about all this stuff when he comes back and starts doing interviews again.
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Andrew Colvett
Yeah, you know, it's interesting I did sort of a very unscientific real world polling, just asking, you know, friends of mine, associates, colleagues about some of the statements about Israel or, you know, Iran, the mou. Obviously he was seen out front with the mou. And what struck me, Mark, is just how popular and mainstream the things that he was saying have really become with a lot of people on the right. Now. When you get on X, it's a battlefield, right? People that represent different constituencies are really vocal, really loud, they're sniping at them. But in general, it was kind of a middle of the line popular, I guess, sentiment that he was expressing. But then you go on X and you think it's like he said something completely untoward. I actually happen to think that he's carving out some really popular populist positions. You know, some people, I heard, I think Ben Shapiro said that he, you know, he was seeing socialist economics. I didn't hear that at all. He's talking about common good economics. I think that is popular because there is a felt need, whether it be affordability or the wealth inequality that has, you know, exploded after Covid. I think he's got the winning message in a lot of ways. I'm a big supporter of his, but I understand that people are not, they're. They think he's. These are some of the things I've heard that he's too tied to Tucker. He hasn't disavowed Tucker or something that they, they don't think he's, you know, got the proper foreign policy position on Israel or that he was too aggressive on the mou. But if you look, the MOU was popular. His, you know, he actually got a boost in the polling when he started pushing the MoU. And a lot of people wanna see the MOU get put back in place as we exchange, you know, jabs with, with Iran. But these things tend to be very popular. I think your point is well made and I, I experienced that firsthand talking to people over the weekend and at the end of last week, I don't see where the controversy is now. One thing I want to say, Mark, because I think this is getting lost in it. I'm not alleging the people that are attacking him on X, for example, are paid to do so. I think they have really legitimate questions and concerns. But my guess is he's going, these, these are popular positions.
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Mark Halperin
Yeah, many of them are. I think it's, you know, look, any vice president. Yeah, I've covered several vice presidents who people thought of as potentially running for president and I'm still not sure he's going to run, by the way. Any vice president gets negative coverage. It's the nature of the beast. You go back and look at how Al Gore was covered or Dan Quayle was covered or Kamala Harris. It's a tough job to do well in because you have to agree with the boss and, and as the saying goes, you get all of his enemies and only a few of his friends at the same time. The, the, the beyond people who don't want him to be the future of the party. It's difficult as vice president to enunciate what you really think because you got to go with what the boss thinks. So, for instance, I really don't know what J.D. vance thinks about the current Trump administration policies on the economy. The policies on Iran get a lot of attention for obvious reasons. But where is he on the economy? I don't really know how he might differ from Donald Trump on the economy. And I think if he does run for president, it'll be both a challenge because he'll have to separate politely from his boss, but also an opportunity to define himself, maybe on different terms. And I have no doubt he's a free market capitalist. But, but his boss has, you know, people say, well, he's, his economic policies are Democrat. A lot of things Donald Trump has been for, like taking ownership in these companies. That's not traditional Republican economics either.
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Andrew Colvett
Yeah, Mark, when do you. Is it after the midterms that this becomes more fair game? Is that the timing?
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Mark Halperin
Yeah, yeah. I'd say between November and March we'll know a lot more.
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Andrew Colvett
Mark Halperin, amazing analysis as always.
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Mark Halperin
Good to see you.
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Andrew Colvett
Take care. We'll talk to you soon.
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Mark Halperin
Talk to you soon.
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Andrew Colvett
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Jay Feely
Andrea, you know, it was a special day. I'll take you back to that morning. You know, my wife and I got up and we said the prayer that we've said every single day since we announced that we were running. And that's to put on God's full armor protection. We walked through it every morning and then we had a great piece about it. You know, I didn't know which way it was going to go. We knew what the polls were showing, and I knew that we had done all the work that we could do. You know, we did all the events. We knocked on 8,000 doors in July alone. We made 80,000 calls. And our team had been putting in all the work. And, you know, I just had a piece and I just prayed, you know, okay, God, if you want me in this political process, then open the doors. And if you don't, then close the doors like I want your will to be done. And because of that, we could have a great piece. You know, Paul talks about that piece that transcends all understanding. That's how my wife and I felt. And, you know, I'm excited about this process. You know, I'm kind of reinvigorated because when you run in a primary, you're running against guys that mostly have the same beliefs that you have. And now in this general, the two parties have never been further apart ideologically. And the Democrat Party has wholeheartedly embraced Democrat socialism. And you can really focus on the issues and you can focus on the differences and where this country is going. One party wants to embrace this Democrat socialist mentality. Open borders, open prisons, getting rid of the Senate, you know, completely undermining and changing the very foundations that this country was founded on. And one party believes in common sense ideas, trying to Create equality, trying to create the right economic environment for people to thrive individually and businesses to thrive and, and to respect individual liberties. You know, and I'm excited for, to be able to make that distinction.
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Andrew Colvett
Yeah, I mean, that was really well put. J. I mean, we spent a lot of our first hour of the show today talking about the rise of DSA and what their policy planks actually are. It's terrifying. And people don't realize that the Democrat Party apparatus in the state of Arizona is very radical. I mean, it's indistinguishable from Mamdani's New York the ideas that they're espousing, what their vision for the future is. So tell us about your opponent now in the general and what we would get if we don't get Jay Feely over the finish line in CD1 for Arizona.
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Jay Feely
Well, I think it's pretty interesting if you go back to this primary. The Democrats spent about $7 million just in this primary. They endorsed Marlene Woods. They did not endorse Dr. Mesh Shah. They spent a ton of money against him. You know, and they wanted somebody who they felt would fit this district more, somebody who was more moderate. And they didn't get that. And you know, they, they got Amisha again, who ran two years ago against David Schweiker, lost 52, 48, you know, and he's somebody who wants a single payer system, you know, that wants Medicaid for all and you know, wants to embrace and has embraced a lot of these Democrat socialist policies that, you know, believes in the destruction of capitalism and the destruction of the American empire and you know, wants to undermine so many of the foundational qualities that we believe. And you have to, I think a rational person is going to look at where this Democrat socialist movement is going. Who are the leaders of the Democrat Party now? It is AOC and Bernie Sanders, it is Mandani. They are having tremendous success around the country, not just in New York with the three House seats there, but in Colorado, in Pennsylvania, in the mayor race in D.C. this is spreading across the country and the Democrat Party is panicking about this because they know that these ideas and the ideology that they expose, especially here in CD1 in this district that you know, is as a center right district and it's a district that has 60,000 more registered Republicans and Democrats got 180,000 registered independents. And I believe most of those independents lean to the right, you know, but they want the right economic opportunities for their children to succeed in the next generations. They want individual liberties and they do not want this platform that believes in fundamentally changing America and what's made it great. You know, you look at the last 250 years, what we've been able to accomplish, and the poverty that capitalism has eliminated, not just here in this country, but around the world, it is the greatest system to lift people out of poverty and give people who come from nothing the opportunity to be a success in life. That's what's great about America. That's why we are, you know, the shiny beacon on the Hill. And we need to fight for that. And we, we're gonna continue to make that distinction throughout this race with me and Amish Shah.
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Andrew Colvett
Yeah. And you started this conversation, Jay, basically saying, hey, listen, the ideological divergence between the two parties has never been greater, never been larger. And the DSA's Plan for America is to destroy it is to destroy what has made America America. And you go around your district, and I know that district pretty well now as I've moved to Arizona, you know, in November, really before that of last year. And it's, you feel it, it's a center right district. The question is going to be turnout. And the reason this is so critically important is the midterms. We don't see as much turnout. Trump's not on the ballot. That's why what we're doing at Turning Point Action is so critically important. And I, I just want to stress this for the audience listening. Jay Feely's district CD1 in Arizona could be what the entire Congress. The balance of power hinges upon your district. No pressure, Jay, but that's how big the stakes are in your district. It's one of the few true swing districts in the country, and we've got more registered Republicans there. The question is, can we get them out? And that's why Turning Point Action is investing so much time and energy in CD1. That's why we have ballot chasers deployed, because we believe in you. And I just want to say you are the right man for this job. I know that in my gut you are a good Christian man. You pray, you. You raise your kids to love the Lord, you raise a beautiful family, and you've put your heart and soul into this. So action items, we got to get people to come out. Do not be disaffected. The. The future of Western civilization could very well hang on CD1. So what are the action items for people listening, Jay?
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Jay Feely
Well, I love that. I love the fact that it's consequential. I talked about that in my speech after we won in the primary. When you do things, you want to be involved in something that's going to have real meaning and going to have an impact on the future of our country. And I truly believe that this seat and this election, this midterm election, has the ability to fundamentally shape our country going forward. I think one of the things that we need, Andrew, is Christians to be engaged in the political process. We have 40 million Christians around the country that don't vote, that aren't engaged in the process, you know, and for me, you know, we're going to do all kinds of events. We're going to do town halls where we talk to independents and Democrats. Come on out and talk to us, hear what I believe and why I believe it, the impact that I've tried to have on this community, the engagement that my wife and I have always done, you know, throughout my time in the NFL and why I wanted to get into politics, to effectuate people's lives, you know. But the other thing I want to do is I want to go to churches and I want to sit down and be able to talk to people in those communities, in those churches about why they should care about this process, the impact it has. Because I believe if you're a Christian and you believe in trying to live a life for Christ, then there's only one party that you can support. Doesn't mean that the Republican Party and conservatives are perfect, not by any means. But when you look at the two parties and what they advocate for and where they want this country to go, if you believe in God and you are a Christian, there's only one party that's advocating for those policies that respects life and tries to create the right opportunity for this country to follow its Judeo Christian roots, and that is the conservatives. That is the Republican Party, you know, So I want to do something that isn't done a lot in politics and going and doing those meetings in churches on Saturdays, talking, giving the right opportunity and forum for people in those churches to come up and hear you and question you and listen to you, because we need those people engaged. We're going to do our huddles that we do every Sunday, where we go into people's homes and you invite all your friends and family, not as a fundraiser, but to communicate and talk and to be able to ask questions. We're going to be doing our Friday night football events that we, that we started last year, where we go to all the football games.
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Andrew Colvett
Jay Feely for Congress. Jay Feely for Congress. Get involved. Chip in some money. This man is the real deal. And he's going to take it home for us over the Finish line in CD1. Jay, thank you so much. All right, so I don't know if you guys have seen this yet, but it is definitely worth covering on this show. Dr. Foushee is in the news again. And why? Because Senator Rand Paul, Republican from Kentucky, publicly released the Fauci diaries that he uncovered in the course of his investigation into Anthony Foushee. And he released them on July 25, 2026, as part of a Senate Homeland Security Committee oversight investigation into COVID 19 origins and Foushee's role. Senator Paul posted a thread on Tony's diaries covering roughly December 2019. So right before the outbreak was felt very strongly here in the United States, we were getting reports of it in China. So it covers it from December 2019 through December 2022. And it's all available on the Senate side. I recommend you guys go check it out. I'm pouring through it right now. But what he does is he frames what Dr. Foushee said publicly versus what he wrote privately in his own journal. And this is becoming shortly before Dr. Fauci is scheduled subpoenaed to testify before the committee. So these are contemporaneous notes of what Dr. Fauci saw and what he was saying and versus what he said publicly, which we have a very ample record of. And there is a couple of things that are just extraordinary. Okay. Absolute bombshell stuff. One, we get this weird view into Dr. Fauci being completely obsessed with himself and his own fame. He notes more than once at his. He's almost flabbergasted at how famous he was becoming that he is probably the most famous scientist in the world. He posts pictures like this. 167 this is actual entries from Dr. Fauci's journal, his diary where he's posting pictures of him of cookies on himself. He has a bobblehead doll that he's just so taken by. This is actual. Have you ever known a man to pose diary injuries of this nature? 168 this is more the Fauci pouchy. These are, I guess, alcoholic beverages of some sort. And they've got his face on him. He loves this. He posts. Another A mosaic is again released by Chairman Rand Paul of the Homeland Security Committee of all these people wearing fouchy shirts. He's obsessed with himself. This is what's also fascinating. So we have public video available to all of us. This is part of the public record of Anthony Fauci denying that he had anything to do with closing schools. Turns out, though, he left a little breadcrumb for us in his diary. 1:57. This is saying I spoke with Bill de Blasio, mayor of New York City, and convinced him, based on what I was saying publicly in my conversation tonight, to close the New York City schools. I went on to tell him he could close the bars and restaurants in New York City. I had a similar call with Ann o', Leary, the chief of staff of Governor Gavin Newsom of California, and said that based on my TV appearances today and yesterday, the governor has decided to close the schools in California as well as bars and restaurants. This is a direct contradiction to his publicly stated statements that he had nothing to do with closing the schools. He convinced New York and California, which led the way on these draconian lockdowns, to close everything up. The other thing that becomes really interesting is this discussion about where the origin of the virus came from. There is a very, very famous meeting of 12 scientists that gathered in a room and from that we got proximal origin, right, that it came from the wet market. Well, it turns out of those 12 scientists, only two believe that it came out of the wet market. The rest of them believed that direct insertion, that is a lab leak, was more probable. So this is 158. Foushee writes in his diary. Now, we know the market was not the source. It was the amplifier. Okay, this is January of 2020. The wet market was already off the table in his own private notes. And yet we took months of deliberation saying that it was probably a lab leak. We had an argument very, very loud of vociferous that it was probably a lab leak because the Wuhan Institute was right there where the source of the spread originated. It was very obvious to anybody with common sense, and yet they denied this. They obfuscated. They lied publicly. But in his own notes, as of January 2020, we knew that the wet market was off the table. We got banned on social media for saying this. You were not allowed to say this. This was called dangerous disinformation that it was sparking anti Chinese racism. Pretty remarkable. Only two concluded it was natural. You could throw up.159. This is a list of scientists on that call. Only two concluded it was natural, per Foushee's own notes. The rest felt that deliberate insertion was the was the case. This was, as Dr. Rand Paul says, it was never a 5050 room as was expressed. So in May 23rd of 2020, one fault Fauci called the lead Author of Proximal Origin, the paper he'd been citing publicly as independent science for reassurance about his own NIH grant, his diary. I feel much better now that he is in total support of what I have been saying. Okay, so listen to this. I had a very interesting and helpful conversation today with Christian Anderson of Scripps Research Institute. He was very emphatic that the work that was done at the Wuhan Institute in association with our grant was not gain of function. In addition, he confirmed that if you match the tumeric viruses that were made in the context of the NIH grant at Wuhan, they are not even close sequences sequence wise to the SARS CoV2. So this is basically establishing that he gets to keep his grant. 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It says about 1 in 5 reliable Republican base voters are at risk in November. They either will stay home or vote Dem across Iowa, Ohio, North Carolina, I believe that's Montana, New Hampshire, Michigan. That's, that's terrifying, Rich, is that you've been warning about this for a long time. So I said, rich, you got to come on. And what is driving this at risk? Purported 1 in 5. Is it that bad?
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Rich Barris
And I think everyone needs to remove the term black pilling from their vocabulary. Okay? People like me who have been better or not even better, the best at surveying and measuring and tracking the Trump coalition, which is different than any previous Republican coalition, have been now for over a year. And by the way, that included Charlie because he was one of my only allies before Operation Midnight Hammer, trying to warn everybody that if you do this, it will be seen as a gross betrayal by a huge and critical section of your base. And, and they will not come back. They may. And this is not me being hyperbolic. This is a group of people who joined the Trump coalition because they expected something different. What they got was more of the same Republicanism that the country rejected after George W. Bush. I can't even be any more plain than that. It started with how the mishandling of the Epstein situation came in to be. By the way, New York Times bestselling book now came out and completely confirmed everything that I tried telling people. Even Dan Bongino knew I was right, even though he wasn't. He didn't have the courage to say it in public. And we are at this point now. I mean, Andrew, I do this every day for a living. Why would you listen to people ridiculous Twitter handles who interview zero people on a daily basis? This is what I do and have done better than anybody else for more than a decade, especially in the Trump era. This is not good. This isn't simple, you know, being disaffected. This is a five alarm fire that we need to address. And I've been trying to shoot up flares for more than a year now to no avail. And I think honestly, we're in the field now. You're going to see the poll real soon. Andrew. I think the rug pull on the peace deal is, is a problem, more than a problem.
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Andrew Colvett
It's okay.
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Jay Feely
Yeah.
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Andrew Colvett
Well, so let's go through this. So you sent me some, some graphics here. Yeah, Your, your first one. It's just two colors, easy to read. It's a pie chart, you said. Do you think it is worth paying $4 a gallon or higher for gas to continue fighting the Iran war. Your poll says 34.1% says yes, it's worth paying higher gas price prices to fight in Iran. 65.9% say no, not worse.
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Rich Barris
By the way, it's higher now since we talked and I sent that to you. I mean, we obviously continue to interview people for the rest of Sunday. It's higher. Let me just ask a question real quick. Ben, can you read? Are you colorblind? Marc Thiessen, you're the one who brought up the $4 gasoline per gallon. Can you read? Are you colorblind? Mark Levin can read? Are you color blind?
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Marco Rubio
You.
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Rich Barris
That entire group doesn't have a single single data point on their side to argue for the catastrophe catastrophic policy that they have led this administration in, that they have advocated for, which is by the way, more of the same Bushism. It's the exact reason while Donald Trump was able to win a nomination against 17 other people and by the way, make the biggest political, most impressive political comeback in US History. So why on earth would we ever think it was a good idea to go down the path of those people, the dinosaurs, who represent a shrinking and dying, it's not even a coalition. It's a shrinking and literally dying demographic in the US Electorate. The only thing they've accomplished since and yes, you know, people like Charlie and I were successful in limiting the, the strikes last year. But what we knew, what everyone else didn't want to accept, is that if they did Operation Midnight Hammer, it was always going to lead to an unpopular full on kinetic war. And now here we are, Andrew and the only thing they accomplished, the only thing this group of people have accomplished, is that now MAGA has shrunk and transformed into something that is dwarfed by what the Democrats are going to put together. Unfortunately, it looks that way. And millennials want nothing to do with the Republican Party, which is maybe people don't know this. And by the way, go buy burn it down, go preorder it. That's why I wrote it. I'm sorry I didn't write it sooner. I wish people would have been able to read it sooner so we didn't have to go through this painful process. But millennials are actually the largest voting eligible population share in this country. Boomers just vote at a higher rate, but they turn 80 this year and will soon fall off. Chasing away millennials was the single most unwise is the best word I could drum up right now. Move that I've ever Seen a political party make rich.
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Andrew Colvett
So with Millennials, you know, we saw a big move. Okay. If you date all the way back to Obama, when they, when we lost Millennials by, I don't know what, it was like 40 points or something, it became basically a swing vote. It was a 50, 50 vote.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah.
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Andrew Colvett
What did it. What were millennials at in 2024 and now what. What's the delta since the election?
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Rich Barris
Okay, this is important because Donald Trump didn't just win and win kind of easily, right, Andrew? I mean, we were done at 11 o' clock at night.
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Marco Rubio
We.
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Rich Barris
We were all, you know, we were done. We haven't seen a presidential election get put away.
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Andrew Colvett
Surprising since. Surprisingly easy. Yeah.
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Rich Barris
Since Barack Obama dismantled Marc Thsen's coalition when they ran Mitt Romney. That was the last time we've seen a presidential election get called that quickly, by the way. All right, this is key to how Trump was able to do that. It wasn't that that he just changed minds. Millennials. And if you look at the story of millennials, of which I am one, you'll see nine, eleven hit them the minute they come into the workforce and they become ad the oldest of them. Oldest, which is me. I'm right before Gen X. They get hit with 9, 11, and it completely changes their world and how things work. Unfortunately, it also stripped a lot of their liberties, which soured them on the Republican Party later down the road when it became clear that it wasn't worth it. Then they start to recover from some of this and they get smashed with the financial crisis. All right? Then that goes away. Trump comes around. He resurrects the Republican Party after two very disappointing years when they backed Obama. All right, in 2017, they become the largest share, the largest single generational share of the voting eligible population. But they're still not voting at significantly higher rates. So boomers and others are able to keep them, you know, to, to keep them from flexing their political muscles, as we like to say. It's not until 2024, when Donald Trump didn't just change minds. These are disaffected people, that through this, what happened after that, Covid, right. Donald Trump was able to convince a large group of millennials to come out and vote again and participate in the process, when in previous elections they had checked out again, they were done. They gave Obama a chance, and they're okay. And they came out in large shares for Obama. They drove older shares of the vote down into the mid to low 20s. And then by the time, you know, Obama began to cause disaffection himself. You know, the boomers started to get to the mid and high twenties again, even in some elections. And midterms, of course, in the 30s. So they punch way above their weight because they're voting at rates, you know, that are. That are significantly higher. Trump didn't. The millennial mind changer, he did a whole show on this and inside the numbers because of the death of Hulk Hogan and what. What it meant culturally. And it was a perfect example. Perfectly symbolic. So we did an entire show on this. And I don't know at this point. And then people always, well, Rich, what do we do now? The answer is, I don't really know, Andrew, because, I mean, I knew the answer a year ago. I knew the answer six months ago even. And I think before with the peace deal, we saw Trump's. His approval rating rebounded strongly with that peace deal. I showed you that poll. We talked about that poll as well.
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Andrew Colvett
So did you. Yeah.
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Rich Barris
Oh, yes. His favorability shot back positive. And by the way, this is another thing to consider, and I'm going to put this other stuff to rest, which I try to do every time I come on the show here. JD Is the only one who can win a national election, okay? Nobody else can win a national election. You have to win the Rust belt until the 2020.
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Andrew Colvett
Marco. Rich.
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Rich Barris
No, he can't. Zero chance. Zero chance. He cannot win one of the Great Lakes Rust Belt states. Look at how close Wisconsin was for Donald Trump. Donald Trump is the reason why you can win the state of Michigan, Pennsylvania. These are not swing states. They're really not. This is the dupe that Republicans have allowed themselves to believe. They're not swing states. They're Trump's swing states. And a particular brand of Trump that now, now, unfortunately, most voters. Whether you support Donald Trump or not is irrelevant. You are still a shrinking part of the electorate, the overall overall electorate. All that matters is how the rest of his coalition from 24 views it, and they don't view it that way anymore. So that hurts, by extension, hurts the only guy who can win a national election. And why can he when others can't? Because of his story. He is that millennial we were just talking about. His entire story embodies their identity. Andrew.
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Andrew Colvett
Rich. Charlie was a big believer in the fact that J.D. was the right pick for vice president because of his story, because he thought that he could help in the Rust Belt. All right, Rich, I want to show another graph from some of your polling here because I think it's really important that people visually see this stuff. 172, throw it up. Do you support or oppose reopening negotiations to end the Iran war? And you've got 40.6% strongly support, and then you've got 24.7 that somewhat support. So you add those two together, Rich, you're looking at what, 6, 65% of the electorate supports negotiating an end to the Iran issue. And we just got a clip, by the way, breaking in the middle of the break. President Trump was on Air Force One headed to Michigan and he said they want to meet. We're going to meet, we're going to see what happens. All right. Obviously it's tough, it's tough to negotiate with Iran. This is one of the reasons getting involved in a conflict in the first place was probably a questionable because you can always start a war, but you can't, you can't finish, you can't, you can't determine when it ends. They get a say in it too, but it's popular. Rich, this is why JD's favorable shot up when he was seen as leading the MOU negotiations. How much of an impact can this have if we're successful getting a resolution to the Iran conflict?
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Rich Barris
You know, it can't hurt. You know, let me, let me put it this way. It can't hurt. It's the only choice at this moment. Last week we did a show because a lot of what people hear out there is just patently wrong about the views of Iranian, the Iranian people and the views of the Iranians do matter as far as whether a deal holds or not, because every regime must maintain regime credibility. They can't be seen as capitulating. Honestly, J.D. vance, the Vice President, is a Helen Keller like miracle worker. The fact that he was able to get the terms of the MOU that the neocons hated, by the way, the fact that he was able, even able to get those terms, considering what Iranians, how their opinions have changed after Operation Midnight Hammer, is a real testament to how much work he must have put into it and how much persuasion, you know, that the guy must be capable of. Because the truth is, and people hate this, they hate hearing this, but it's true. The warmongers lied to all of you, including the President. The Iranians were not these, you know, rabid, fanatical pursuers of a nuclear bomb. Andrew. It's simply false. You know, that in polling from credible organizations that aren't backed by the CIA and other regime change think tanks is very, very clear from Gallup, the University of Maryland from Pew. They didn't even believe before Operation Midnight Hammer. They didn't even believe Islam permitted the development of nuclear weapons. Now they want a bomb and they are going to be. It's going to be more difficult for the regime to sell this to their population. In the wake of Operation Midnight Hammer. I was stunned that JD even got the terms he did because the regime has no incentive.
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Marco Rubio
They.
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Rich Barris
They can take punishment, Andrew. Their population supports it and they're not a democratically elected government.
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Andrew Colvett
Right.
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Rich Barris
So they don't care. Their number one problem with their regime is economic reforms, which they blame the west for anyway. You were all lied to. They were never going to topple their government. There was never an anti mullah sentiment in Iran. Mark Levin. And of them lied to you. They lied to you. They use fake CIA polling. We've read documents on the show. They're laughing at you because it's just fake polls. They're just fake. They were made to duke the West.
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Andrew Colvett
You're saying it was domestic population. You're saying. Yeah, yeah. You're saying the domestic population in Iran is in favor of this regime. It is. The regime is significantly sufficiently popular.
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Rich Barris
Absolutely. And the only time in, in, in multi decades of polling by credible outlets, not fake CIA led polling. In multi decade trends, you can see that Operation Midnight Hammer was the catalyst. And for the first time ever in the history of their polling, they want a bomb. Good job.
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Andrew Colvett
All right. So Rich. Okay, so they accepted the Ayatollah's fatwa.
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Rich Barris
By the way, I just wanted to say that they accepted the Ayatollah fatwa not to develop a nuclear weapon, just a nuclear program, but not a nuclear weapon. 78%, Andrew. And it completely turned it around with Operation Midnight Hammer.
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Andrew Colvett
Good job. So, all right, I hear you loud and clear. But peace is popular. We've got to pursue it. And here's, here's the question. So you see the rise of dsa. We only got about a minute and a half left. Rise of dsa. It is a symptom of an underlying problem in our politics. Feels like nothing gets fixed. Doesn't matter who you vote for. And the question then becomes if you had a magic wand. And from a messaging and a policy standpoint, between now and election day in November, what should the admin be hitting hard? What do they need to say real quick? One minute, Rich.
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Rich Barris
They have to. They have to dump this war and acknowledge the affordability crisis in this country. Because Mondani is not a fringe candidate.
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Andrew Colvett
He is a.
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Rich Barris
He is the tip of a rising trend. What Andrew is referring to, folks, is the identification question. Every month, the number of Democrats who identify as socialists continue to rise. So it wasn't black pilling. It was me warning this country that if you turn it over to these people, they are crazy. These are fanatics that honestly, Andrew, everybody's got to get back to work. If you want to buck history, you better buck what Congress usually does, which is go home in the second year, especially in the month of August, and do nothing. Republicans can't do that. They need to listen to President Trump, get rid of the filibuster, pass the SAVE act and acknowledge the affordability crisis and actually do something you promised the American voter you would do. It's that simple.
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Mark Halperin
Yeah.
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Andrew Colvett
When you got a situation where one in five Republican, predictable, reliable voters might stay home, I don't believe that they're going to vote Dem. Maybe some. Well, but I think some more likely they're just not going to show up. They're just not going to show up. If you do that. That is the underlying elements necessary for radical revolutionary politics in this country. We've got to focus domestically. Rich Barris, thank you, my friend. We'll see you soon.
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Rich Barris
All the best, brother. For more on many of these stories and news you can Trust, go to charliekirk.com.