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My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You gotta stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Turning Point USA College chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA High School chapter.
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Use me.
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Buckle up, everybody.
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Here we go.
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all right. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. We are here in Phoenix, Arizona, live, this Friday, June 26th. Is it June 20th? I thought yesterday was June.
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It is the 26th of June.
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Well, good. I'm not wrong. How we doing, Blake?
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We're doing excellent.
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Wonderful. We've got good news. Well, there is good. You're talking about the Tyler Robinson. Yes, yes, of course. So we do have an update. Judge Graff ruled on the contempt portion of the case involving Tyler Robinson to bring the audience back up to speed. So there was obviously an ATF report that was referenced in a defense motion. Now, the defense motion said that the bullet didn't match the gun. All right? Or something to that effect. Daily Mail took it, spun it. The Internet went crazy. 25, 30 million impressions later. So the prosecution came out and they said, actually, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's not what the ATF report says. The ATF report says the bullet was too badly damaged to conclusively without any question, using ballistics reporting of striations on the bullet, et cetera, to match it to the gun. But we have plenty of other reason to believe that the gun matches the bullet and all this other evidence.
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And just more generally, it's that it's. It can't be provably. They took. It can't be provably linked to this specific gun, and people spun it as it is disproven.
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It is not possibly linked to this guy. So the prosecution went and corrected the record, but that's not why he's being held in contempt. This particular prosecutor, why he's being held in contempt is because then after clarifying the record, which the judge admitted and concurred that he had a reasonable rationale and expectation to clarify the record, he went on and said, we have an overwhelming case, the state does, against Tyler Robinson that he said is unfairly prejudicial to the jury. Okay, so that's the big case. It's basically a slap on the wrist. So here's actually a legal analyst from Fox News. I saw this clip as I was prepping for the show this morning. I thought he did an excellent job. I'll play it for you. So sat 27, how does the. The contempt charge against Chris Ballard, the prosecutor, how does that affect the case? Would they pull him off? Does it do anything else to the prosecution? I think it will have no effect whatsoever. And I think the best way to look at this whole thing is this was a win for the prosecution. Yes, they were found in contempt, but they were not found in contempt for the bigger issue about correcting the ATF report. That was really what this was all about, was there was false information out there. The prosecution felt that they had to act and had act quickly to correct it so it would not create this spun out of control, false narrative. So it will have absolutely no effect on the prosecution. But again, I marvel actually at Judge Graff's ability to navigate these with nuance, with impartiality, fairness. All of this is important because ultimately when this case is done, it will be up for appeal. And. And he's being very careful not to give any reason for this trial to be overturned.
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It makes you really admire, you know, the capabilities of people we have randomly in middle America because this is a. Not even the largest county in Utah. It's south of Salt Lake City and just out. You know, he's never expected. He probably mostly handles incredibly minor cases, and then suddenly the most famous criminal case in the country that's going to be consuming possibly two, three years of his life drops into it. And I feel like he's handled it all quite well.
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He's handled it well. I mean, it's slow and deliberate. Certainly. I would love to. Blake's points that he's made on this show multiple times. I would love for this stuff to be faster. You know, I always think about this, and I'm not saying this is exactly where I want to go. I'm just saying the contrast and the juxtaposition, mentally, is just wild. Remember when we went to Iraq and they found, you know, Saddam Hussein hiding in a cistern or whatever it was? Spider hole, spider hole. And literally within, like, two or three weeks, I think he was hanging in the public square.
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It took a while. I remember that. It took a couple of years, actually.
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No, I don't think so. We'll look it up anyways. The pace of justice in this country is abysmally slow. But once again, I admire Judge Graff's deliberateness, how careful he's being and how dispassionately and impartially he's approaching everything. I think that's actually really, really important. And it'. It's a good thing when we want to get justice in this case. All right, we are going to now transition to some of the continued fallout from the DSA sweep in New York. And it occurs to me, Blake, that the Democrat Party has been sustained upon a coalition of 14th Amendment blacks like the black Americans, especially after the Civil Rights act and Ellis island immigrants. And they are being supplanted by the Hart Celler immigrants and the 1990 immigration act.
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Exactly.
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We should.
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Yeah, we should explain that because we had ellis. America's had two truly dramatic waves of immigration in the past 150 years. We have. You could call it the Ellis island wave that kicks off maybe about 10, 15 years after the Civil War runs. 1890s 20 or 1890s, 1900s, 1910s. We get millions of people into America, and then America decides too many of these and they slam the door, and we digest those Americans for decades. But that still is the bedrock of FDR's New Deal coalition. You have these big cities. They have Italians, they have Eastern Europeans, they have Jewish Americans, and a lot of them are sort of the bedrock of the Democratic Party, along with black Americans.
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Yeah, a lot of papists, a lot of people.
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The Democratic Party was very Catholic throughout this period, and that's the Democratic Party. But now we're at the point they got digested. A lot of them. They're not Democrats anymore. They got assimilated.
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The Catholics voted for Trump.
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I like to say that a sign of my assimilation. I'm mostly German, I'm Catholic, but I like reading English history a lot more than I like reading German history. I identify far more with England.
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I've been thoroughly Anglicized.
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I've been totally assimilated. But. But Democrats, that's not gonna work for them because they can't handle people who love America. So they need to build a new coalition. So as you say, the Hart Celler act, that's the shorthand for Ted Kennedy's bill. Changing massively liberalizing our immigration laws. 1965 onward, continuing in 1990, the biggest immigration wave of any country in human history. And much more alien people. Now we're getting more. We're getting Muslims, we're getting Hindus, we're getting way more East Asians. Not nearly as culturally Christian or European.
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Well, everybody thinks of immigration. Not everybody. It used to be in the country that a lot of people thought of tabula rasa, right? That we are a blank slate. That you can incorporate any culture and it will be seamless and easy. Once they come to America, they'll realize the blessings of freedom and capitalism and orderliness in the free market. No, what happens now is if you. And go full screen on me if you can, guys. If you were saying like here's America in the 1920s and then you get this huge immigrant wave from southern and eastern Europe. This is about how alien they were. About like this much space. Guess what happened after Hart Celler? The immigrants. You can't even see it's off screen. Okay? It's like way over there. How alien they are. To our starting point, the assimilation challenge is first and foremost much more difficult because they are much more alien to our country. But secondly, our country lost its backbone and its courage and its self confidence. So now it's racist to ask them to assimilate. Now it's racist to suggest they follow our laws. It's racist to suggest that they should not get on welfare instantly and work with an NGO to game our system. That's all bigoted and, and hateful. And we love our immigrant communities and they add diversity and ethnic food and all this other garbage.
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Gotta have the ethnic food.
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This is exactly how communism gets ushered in. How foreign ideas, foreign grudges and foreign tribalism get ushered into America. And it's gotta stop. Alright, here's what I wanna tell you about Pew report. Pew did a. They sorted Americans into nine political groups. Okay? It's a very, very interesting way to do it. So instead of left v right, we understand that every side is actually really, when you break it down, a coalition of different types of voters. Okay? Now I did my taxonomy of the right and broke it down into five groups. They have broken it down into nine different groups ranging from left very left to very right, okay? And they do it by race. White, Hispanic, black, Asian. Okay? So what's interesting about this report and what was kind of the Inspiration for our lead today was that blacks and to a lesser extent, Latinos are really, really low on the super progressive scale. And the vast majority of those cohorts fall into order and opportunity left. So yes, they are left. They are Democrats, but they're not crazy Democrats. They sort of want order and opportunity. They actually are pretty cool with the capitalist system, with having to work for a job. They want order, they want crime, they want immigration. Actually, blacks and Latinos tend to be very, very bullish on immigration. They want order at the border, they want crime dealt with, and they want order in those different respects. So they tend to be more economically progressive, but they want law and order.
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I think a lot of them, a lot of them, I would define that as they're groups that basically they want government programs to pay out.
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All right, well, sure, but it's something different than what we're seeing with the hard seller immigrants, okay? It's something different than we're seeing with the 1990 and onward mass invasion immigrants. So these are people that have been somewhat assimilated into the customs and norms of America, and you can work with them. And here's the big key. Blacks and to a lesser extent, Latinos don't fully realize what's happening right now. They don't realize that the Democrat party is leaving them behind. They have found new customers, and that is foreigners. Foreigners that just get off the boat. They have fewer demands. All they want is communism. All they want is to seize the means of production from rich white people and give it away to their constituencies. This is what you see with Somalia. Okay? That is the most extreme example that you can think of, certainly. But that is a good case study. And here's. I'll show. I'll show that it's true. This is Zoram Mamdani, a foreigner, himself a Muslim foreigner, Islamo Marxist. 21. We saw today the Supreme Court make a decision that is putting so many people's lives in jeopardy. Many of you know, this is a city of 8 1/2 million people. More than 3 million of us were born elsewhere. I'm one of them. We're a city that's proud of our immigrant heritage. And when we think about especially what
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Haitian New Yorkers have had to deal
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with, not just for weeks or months or years, but frankly for decades, we have seen a cruelty that has become
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normalized,
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says 3 million immigrants in New York City. 3 million more than 3 million. That is crazy. They'll tell you 50%.
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They'll tell you New York has always been a City of immigrants. But what that understates is New York has had its demographics change a lot even in the past 20 years. Since 9 11. Since 9 11, New York is vastly, it's vastly less white, including ethnic whites, Italians and so forth. It's a lot more Islamic, a lot more Chinese. Like a lot of interesting shifts have happened. And also it's economically changed. And that's one of the reasons you're able to see this more kind of communist stuff take off.
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So here's what's happening in the Democrat Party to this point. You are seeing the rise of the foreigners, the foreign tribalism, sectarianism coming up. And it is vengeful, it is bitter. Bitter. It hates America. And you're seeing a wedge being driven into the heart of the Democrat Party. And we're even seeing now movement of some Democrats, moderate Democrats, that don't like it. And they are actually signing a pledge, a promise to America supporting what? Strong borders. Interesting. Capitalism and patriotism. Check this out. Sat 22.
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You know, there are certain things that I believe in that are not being reflected in the current environment, especially with some of these races on Tuesday. And as we said in our pledge, you know, we're for capitalism, not socialism. We're for safety, not lawlessness. We're proud of America, not ashamed of America. And we need to be promoting those things. And you know, the far left and the far right, you know, they're all very well organized, but those of us that don't support those far left or far right principles need to do a better job organizing and getting our message out.
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That reminds me, did you see the Politico headline the other day? Democrats grapple uncomfortably with World cup success.
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Yeah, like, what's there to grapple with? By the way, we lost turkey in the 98th minute and overage. Anyways, that was. It was really, really annoying. It was going to be a 2, 2 tie and then they lost.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But the point is, I have a lot of disdain for guys like this. Because you oversaw the anti white bigotry of the left and you were part of it. You were complicit in it. And now you're waking up and you're like, they're gonna eat me too. Yeah, they are gonna eat you too. The eat me last Democrat middle. Absolute cowards. Listen, I will take you coming over to Team Sanity if you apologize and you say sorry and you learn your lessons. I don't have any faith that this guy is. But what's happening on the left, Keep your eye on it. It is a absolute wedge through the middle of that party. We got Dan Goldman, who's not even being served coffee in New York City because he's Jewish, even though he's been a total loon and a nut job and a far left Democrat himself. And now they hate him too, because his skin's too white and his Jewishness is too prominent. It's wild. It's wild what's happening over there. And it's completely foreign. It's completely foreign to what America has always been and what it should remain. All right, I'm so excited to share with you guys. C15 from Fatty 15 the first emerging essential fatty acid to be discovered in more than 90 years. It's an incredible scientific breakthrough to support our long term health and wellness and you guessed it, healthy aging. Fatty 15 co founder Dr. Stephanie Van Watson discovered the benefits of C15 while working with the US Navy to continually improve the health and welfare of older dolphins. Believe Believe it or not, Based on over 100 studies, we now know that C15 strengthens our cells and is a foundational healthy aging nutrient which helps to slow aging at the cellular level. In fact, when our cells don't have enough C15, they can become fragile and age faster. And when our cells age, our bodies age too. This eventually led to studies finding the first new nutritional deficiency to emerge in 75 years called cellular Fragility Syndrome. Caused by a lack of the C15, as many as one in three people worldwide may have low C15 levels and fragile cells. To help support and optimize healthy aging, a team of doctors funded by the US Navy spent over a decade to develop the pure science backed and bioavailable C15 0 ingredient in Fatty 15. Thankfully, Fatty 15 repairs age related damage to cells, protects them from breakdown and activates pathways in the body that help regulate our sleep, our cognitive health and metabolism. This functionality leads to so many other exciting benefits now and as you get older. In fact, 70% of fatty 15 customers report seeing or feeling benefits within 16 weeks including deeper sleep, calmer moods, better energy and overall improved health. Now that's essential. We're all aging, which means that healthy aging starts from birth. Studies have shown that C15 is a foundational nutrient that that supports healthy growth and development in children and supports our long term health as adults. Fatty 15 has three times more cellular benefits than EPA and omega 3. By replenishing our cells with the crucial C15 nutrient, Fatty 15 effectively repairs cells, reverses aging related damage at the cellular level and restores our long term health and wellness fatty 15 was developed in support of healthy aging for all, from kids to parents to grandparents. That's why award winning fatty 15 is now available as Pure Capsules, delicious Apple Mint Gummies for teens and adults, and Berry Blast gummies for kids. Fatty 15 is on a mission to support healthy aging for all, including all ages and stages of life. You can get an additional 15% off their 90 day subscription starter kit by going to fatty15.comkirk and using code Kirk at checkout. All right, Joshua, you have. So I've been ripping off parts of your taxonomy and it's really helpful. What's interesting is that Pew has created a taxonomy of left and right and they've divided it into nine groups. What's interesting is what we're examining is that the Hart Celler immigrants, and I would say the 1990 immigrants, again, we expanded legal green card holders from about half a million a year to 1.1 to 1.2 million a year in 1990. Democrats and Republicans both guilty of this. And that wave is the largest move of humanity in history, on all the planet, ever, just by sheer volume in numbers. And we've absorbed it, I would say better than most cultures and countries could ever hope to absorb something as large as we've absorbed. But yet everybody has its limits. And this has supplanted in many ways the traditional backbone of the Democrat party, which would be black Americans, progressive whites, moderate whites, Blue Dog Dems. And so there is a huge wedge being driven in the middle of the Democrat coalition. And candidly, we should exploit that. Thoughts?
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That's interesting. Well, you know, okay, break that down for me. When you say exploit it, what exactly do you mean?
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I think that we should exploit it. Absolutely. There is a rise of moderate Dems saying, we still are patriotic, we're not ashamed of America, we love America. We. We still love capitalism. Okay? Prove it. There's only one party now that represents any of those ideas well.
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And they want their home. And that's what's gonna. I think that's really gonna turn the tide for the Democrats moving forward is whenever they actually see, whenever they taste and see the fruit, the rotten fruit of the Hart Cellar act and third world migration, that is what's gonna change hearts and minds. Whenever they realize that it's not only
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I don't use public transportation, so I
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don't have to worry about getting stabbed on the subway. Okay? It's not just that. Whenever they realize I can't even without being like, fearing for the lives of my children, that's going to Cause a mass, I mean, the exodus, right, we have already had a mass exodus from the madness that the left has promoted over the last however many years. But that is going to be, I think if we can exploit that, if we can spam all the social medias, all X, all Instagram, with all these videos demonstrating, hey, our societies really are becoming unlivable because they are bringing, they are, they are bringing the third world into our country and we are becoming the third world. I really do believe that that's not
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even just immigration related. I think you're seeing the left is really ideologically boxing itself into being an ideology of decline, an ideology of deprivation. There's actually an incredible debate unfolding in Europe right now, especially because they're coming here for the World Cup. And it's not just that they're seeing how big our stores are. They're also seeing, wait, they have air conditioning everywhere in America and they're having a heat wave in England and in France right now. And there's stories where people as Britain is having these 90 plus degree temperatures, people are being told, take out your AC. It's illegal. You didn't, you didn't get the right permit for.
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You don't have the license for the mate.
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And they're being told that. And like we have the left coming out and basically saying, well, not having AC is actually a left wing position. We shouldn't have AC because it's killing the planet. If we can make politics be where the party that will give you air conditioning and the left says, we hate air conditioning, we'll take it out, will be able to win.
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I hope so. I hope so. And one of the reasons I'm talking about this is because we saw how President Trump was able to appeal to more black Americans that candidly, they were not as ideologically driven in some ways, but they were like, hey, I had more money in my pocket when President Trump was in on. And listen, crime was being dealt with. We didn't have this like, you know, kind of loose notions of just soft on crime and no cashless bail and all this stuff. So I think these are the issues that, where you can sort of expand a tent moving forward and the left. And listen, I am not one of those people who says, oh, what's happening in New York is a good thing because we're gonna, you know, no, that's a bad thing. The fact that we're even here is abysmal. It is an absolute, it's an indictment of so many years of failed political policies, both from the left and the right. But okay, so we're here and I'm gonna deal with what is true right now. And I do think that there is a wedge issue emerging within the left coalition where you have sort of these blue dog Democrats, you have white Democrats that kind of like their jobs and their lives, and you have blacks and Latinos that want a good economy and they want law and order and they don't want an open border. Those are the issues that can sort of expand the tent. President Trump showed the way a little bit in 2024, and we should exploit that to the max.
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I think that's good. I'm reading on that note a book called the Camp of the Saints right now. Highly recommend.
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Amazing book.
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I mean, it's amazing. It's also a big black pill.
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In many ways, it's a black pilling book. It's a traumatizing book. What I'd say stands out about it is it was written in 69, 70, and it feels so much more modern than that in terms of how it recognizes the nature of the left.
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Well, just to give you a brief to let people understand what the narrative is, it's basically the destruction of Western society not because of a fascistic government like the other dystopian novels of that era. Rather, it is the destruction of Western civilization because a fleet of millions of migrants come to western shores, particularly the shores of France, and the west does nothing to stop them because they don't have the heart to maintain their own civilization and stop this. This invasion that's coming to their borders. But what's interesting that makes me think the reason I brought it up is because even the immigrants who currently live in France at the time, they go, you guys don't understand.
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You can't let this happen.
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You cannot let this happen. I left those countries. I know it's going to happen.
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I've had that convers in countless Ubers.
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Yes.
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I will never forget. I was sitting with a Haitian, which is obviously in the news right now, and this Haitian was like, I hate Haitians. I was like, well, that's a little bit aggressive.
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I would never.
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Yeah, you know, I was just like, you know, we're all made in the image and likeness of God and all this stuff. He said, well, yes, but I fled there and you do not want to bring these people here. Why is this in the news? Right. So the judge, the Supreme Court rather just finally ruled on the tps, which, by the way, they've had TPS since, you know, like over a decade or Whatever. TPS stands for Temporary. Temporary Protected status, which means you go home when the crisis is averted. And I just love Stephen Miller. I tweeted out last night that he's a total legend because he is just cool, calm, and collected. Be more like this if somebody comes and confronts you about immigration. 28, consider Haiti a safe country for Haitians. Absolutely.
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Yes.
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I mean, yes, Haitians live in Haiti. It's not our position that Haitians should leave Haiti. I mean, it would be. It'd be crazy for us to say that Haitians couldn't live in Haiti. It's their country. Of course Haitians should live in Haiti.
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It. That's common sense.
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Why is that controversial? No, but that's. You gotta understand that this is hatred and bigoted and racist and all this stuff he goes on. I just love Stephen Miller clips. So here, we're gonna play some more Sat 24.
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You expect the administration to deport anyone
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who loses TPS status as a result of this ruling?
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Well, of course, if you. If you no longer have status in this country, then you're supposed to be deported. And in particular in the case of the Haitians, the Biden administration flew over vast numbers. Hard to know the exact number, but there are probably more than a million illegal immigrants from Haiti. That's not accounting the border crossings into the United States. These are people who've only been here for a few months, who are receiving welfare, whose all their ties, all their social connections, all their family is back in their home country of Haiti. And of course that's where they should go. I love the answer. Well, of course, if you no longer have status in this country, then you're supposed to be deported. Easy.
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That's where they should go.
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It's very simple. And I get this on campus all the time. It's like, even from conservatives, you know, supposed conservatives that for some reason they seem to believe that we have some kind of moral responsibility to bring people into our country. They're like, yes, we could maybe reduce the immigration tax.
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Talk about that.
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No, because a lot of this is a bastardization of scripture.
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No, that's exactly right. Okay. And obviously, I was a pastor before I do what I do now, which is just, like, make libs mad on the Internet, so. Which is a lot of fun.
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You're good at it.
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I'm good at it because what I do is I just say what the Bible says. And it turns out the Overton Window has gone so far to the left that you're not even allowed to say out loud what the word of God says so that's what I do. But it's very important to understand that what's going on with this mass migration crisis that we're facing, it is we should treat it like an invasion. And it's an. What is an invasion? When we're thinking metaphysically. Well, the God of the universe, the creator of all, has told us that whenever he judges nations, he judges them by bringing invading forces in. Right. And so why are.
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You know, why, you know, why? This just. I'm sorry, yeah, go ahead, keep going. But this just. I always think about this, that we've basically let in as many immigrants, maybe a few more than babies we've killed.
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That's about right.
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Since Roe v. Wade.
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That's about right.
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And so if you're talking about a judgment on a nation, we are a
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blood soaked America and God, God is a just and righteous God. Now he is merciful to his people and we cry out for mercy. And by the grace of God, all of us, we are baptized. We know the Lord, we will stand before him covered by the righteousness of Christ. But God judges nations as moral entities. And this is something that's very important. God treats nations, he judges them based on their actions. And so even though a nation may have a lot of good people in it, God will bring about judgment. Look at Sodom and Gomorrah, right? God judges nations, we look at. But look at Nineveh, look at, in the Book of Amos, he's casting judgments upon pagan nations for not submitting to God's law. So we know, like what, what ultimately has to happen is that we must repent. We must turn away from murdering 70 million babies. We gotta acknowledge that, hey, we let this happen. Yeah, it was the libs. Yeah, they pushed for it. But what did we do? What did we do to stop it? Almost nothing for so long. And so we are living in a blood soaked America under God's judgment. But God is also merciful. He's merciful and it's. We are not. We haven't gone over the precipice yet.
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We need to pray for him to heal our land. And this is, listen, I've got no, like, I want to be very clear because even my mother sometimes she's like, you're going a little too hard on. I don't hate that. There's a micro and a macro that you have to understand with this stuff. The micro is that, yes, I meet immigrants, I love them, they are sweet people. And then there's a macro where a Nation has an obligation to not flood its borders with foreigners, with foreign ideas and foreign gods. And that is exactly what we've done in this country. And we need to stop it because it is tearing us apart. And you look at New York, look at Mayor Mamdani, look at Chevalier. These people hate Western civilization. They hate what you stand for, and they probably hate you. So if that makes me unchristian to defend my home, then I think you're the one with bad theology. Team, do we have these images? Can I throw these up? I just want to give a shout out to our Turning Point Action team. There is so much going on on campus right now. There was just like, tons of people coming in and out. This is a war machine, and I love it. So this is Turning Point Action. This is the largest Arizona class ever. What are these people doing? They're being trained up in chasing ballots to win in November. We're teaching them how to go door to door, send text messages, harass kindly to people to get their ballots in and to encourage them and explain to them the way the process works. I will. I'm not kidding you, in 2024. You will be blown away at this. We had stories of ballot chasers like these that are getting trained right now and being sent out, that they would go to a house where the gentleman had, like, a Trump shrine. Like a shrine devoted to a big waving flag. Yeah, like in the. Yeah, like a little bit much, admittedly. But the point is that person didn't vote.
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A
Didn't vote.
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D
We'd come in and we'd say we think we're at the wrong address because this person supposedly hasn't voted since 2016.
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A
Ah, yeah, man.
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B
I keep forgetting about it. So this is what we have to do to save our country. And I'm so proud of the Turning Point Action Team. Every day they are hitting the ground running. They're getting these people into the office, hiring, hiring, hiring. We're doing that in not only Arizona, we're doing that in Nevada and New Hampshire. We have offices in all three states. We're building the red wall simultaneously. We have guys like Joshua Haymes, and we're doing a whole big training. You want to tell them about this? Pick up the mic. Right. So you already went to campuses with us in the last semester, in the spring semester. And we're bringing the gang back together. We're bringing new faces, new names, people that are trying to take these conservative ideas to college campuses and have those debates, those clips that go viral. Tell us about it.
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A
Yeah, I'M so excited to be a part of it. I actually went on campus the day after the assassination. Like, my heart swelled in my chest for these young people. And I knew. So I was a pastor before, like I said, I was a pastor before. I do what I do now. And I knew that these young people were desperate. I didn't know the effect and the impact and how far reaching Charlie Kirk, the impact of Charlie Kirk was until I went on campus and saw the, I mean, the, these, these young men were just deflated like it was. I mean, heads down in sackcloth and ashes, basically. And so I went there and I actually did a tabling event. Well, I did. I went and just like spoke to the students the day after it happened. And then a week later I did an event. And it was my first event like that. And within 20 minutes, we had probably 800 students surrounding the table. They were desperate for it. And as I came out there and my, my entire mission in life at this point, besides saving Western civilization and doing everything I can to do that, and the way that, well, the way that I believe that that's going, that Western civilization is going to be saved is by training up a new generation of young men who will unapologetically apply their faith in politics and culture. So we need, we need conservative politics that is rooted and grounded in the eternal. So that's my whole project, is to take these young men who are right on the issues, but they don't know why they're right. And so to ground them in the eternal. And so having the opportunity to do this college tour gives me a lot of FaceTime. Of course, it's fun to own dunk on the libs.
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E
That's easy.
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A
But honestly, what's been more exciting for me is talking with these conservatives and having it out on the ideas and them realizing, wait a second, I have this like gut instinct to like mass deportations, but they don't even know why that's morally right. They have no idea why.
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B
They don't have the words.
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A
They don't have the words or they don't have the theological grounding. They haven't rooted their politics in the eternal. And that's what I'm trying to train people to do, is to say, hey, you're right, but you need to know why you're right actually, and you need to be grounded in it.
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B
And so what we've done is we're actually bringing in all these people like Joshua that into Phoenix and we're doing coaching, debate coaching, training, and kind of going through debate 101, understanding the difference between assertion and acclaim and defensive and offensive debate. It's really fascinating stuff. And we're going through the pillars of leftism and all this stuff. It was a great, great class yesterday. It's just like a great time. I mean, if you went over to the other building, I was hooping and hollering and clapping and dunking on people. I mean, and I love that everybody seemed to get into it. Yeah, they embraced the dynamism of it. You've got to have fun with this
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D
or it's going to be too much of a drag and they'll know you hate it. And Charlie, one of the key things he was getting at is if you're going to have someone jeer at you, if they know they're getting under your skin, if they know that you're flustered, if they know you're unhappy, they are going to absolutely run wild. But if you're playing to the crowd and saying, like, yeah, come on, or if you're basking it, if you're basking in it, if you're getting your own jibes back, they want to see a good fight. It's a. It's kind of like that movie Gladiator with Russell Crowe. When the guy's telling him, it's like, it's not enough to win the fight you want. The crowd has to be entertained.
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A
That's right. That's right.
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B
Well, and so we went all through all of that, how people, it's funny, they go, is the debate. That's a big question you get. Is the debate that you're engaged in, is it to win over the person across from you, or is it to create viral clips? And my answer to that is simple.
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A
Yes, very simple. Very simple.
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B
And I do have to get to you, Joshua. I'm sorry. Breaking JUDGE IN Palisades Fire Trial declares mistrial with jurors unable to reach unanimous decision, 10 out of the 12 jurors are set on not guilty for Jonathan Rinderknecht and two set on guilty. I was reading about that.
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D
It seems like they don't have much physical evidence proving this guy's a Luigi
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B
Mangioni, almost certainly aficionado. And I mean, just show a picture of him. I got a picture of him. This is. That's the guy. And this is why the third worldization of our cities, it ultimately has a downstream knock on effect when it comes to getting accountability and justice for people that just ruined hundreds of thousands of people's lives. So that's Frustrating.
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A
Yes. I mean, well, going back to the classic line, the Third World is not a place, it's a people.
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B
Yeah. Yeah. Some cultures are better than others.
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A
Amen.
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B
Even within the United States. Joshua Haims, Reformation Red pill.
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A
That's it.
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B
Check him out. He's the man.
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A
Come on.
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B
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F
That's right.
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B
I love it. We've got. Hold on. Sharik Khan. I didn't want to get it wrong. That's all I'm saying. Sharukh Khan. And you can find him on Instagram @RealSharkCon, which is spelled S H A. Wait, I got S H A H R, I, Q. And Shark's got a great, great story. You are a convert to Christianity.
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G
Yes.
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B
From Islam. So I want to get into that in just a second. And then we have Lily Kate. You can find her on X at. It's Lily Kate. L I, L Y.
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E
Just one L. The proper way to spell it.
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B
That's right. All right, so you guys are wanting to go out on campus. We're doing this big training and you want. Pick up the mic. Just. Let's start there. How has your experience been doing that, doing the training? It's been fun.
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E
Absolutely wonderful. Yeah. We get debate training, we get media training, we get prepped on all the, all the different briefs, all the different topics. I'm just even more excited to go out.
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B
Did you guys get dunked on yesterday? Like, for sure, hardcore dunked on? Yeah.
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G
Yes, absolutely.
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B
That's an important first step, I will tell you. Okay, that's really exciting. So these are just, I mean, there's dozens of people next door actually, that are, that are going out and they're going to be on campus and doing debates, trying to bring conservative ideas and conservative values to students and debate the ideas. It's really a beautiful thing. But, Sharik, I want to ask you about this. So you. We've spent a lot of time talking about the rise of Islam in the West. You are a Christian and you have a ministry reaching out to Muslims. Tell us about it.
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G
Yeah, so I grew up a devout Muslim. And I'll give you a really quick story about just how deep I was. My father was one of 17 from Pakistan. They definitely know how to be fruitful and multiply. And he actually saw the second plane hit the twin towers in New York. And so it was absolutely, you know, an incredible, incredible time in my life where the earliest thing I knew, my earliest identity was just that I'm going to be a Muslim and that this is who we are. And I lived in a blue collar town of firefighters and cops and first responders. And truthfully, that led my earliest identity to being a Muslim. And I wanted to defend it with my entire heart and soul. It was everything I knew, everything I bled. It was my mentors of doctors and lawyers, all in the community. And the truth is, I had no issues being a Muslim. I loved it. It made so much sense for me. And through trying to defend my faith at the highest level, I was that Muslim guy on the college campuses that would challenge my Christian fraternity brothers on their faith. I would try to rip their faith away from them. I ended up trying to defend the Quran so much that I would eventually see it for what it was. And I lost my faith. And in 2020, I left Islam. And actually I didn't come to Christ right away. And two years later, when I was extremely suicidal, not having any identity, not knowing how to engage with this world with no faith.
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B
So you lose your faith, then you become suicidal?
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G
Yes, I become suicidal because I'm not Christian yet. I hadn't let Christ into my life to heal me yet. I didn't know what that meant. I wasn't discipled well into Christ yet. I actually would have a dream of Christ and he would nail me on the night that I actually would revert and pray to Allah, Christ actually met me that night. And it was two years later from that moment that I would actually become born again. And the faith meant so much to me now that I said, you know, as somebody who finally encountered Christ, I met Jesus through reading the Quran. That this conviction I had that every religion has to encounter Christ in some way. You have to deal with Christ in some way. When I found out who the true Christ was, it was the moment that sin fell from my soul and I felt the grace for the first time ever. And now I've dedicated my entire life to building this ministry, to bearing my cross. The thing in Islam that was going to take me off this earth I now proudly wear as a badge of who Christ is. And I firmly believe that Islam is a sin that will end in our generation. I firmly believe that the cross is big enough for the 2 billion Muslims. And I firmly believe that our generation is going to see a revival in Islam of Muslims that is going to strengthen our church. They are going to become Christians. And it's going to be one of the most beautiful moments of who Jesus Christ really is. And shining in that moment.
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B
Wow. God bless you, man. That gives me so much. Let's just say it's such a good take on all of the Islamification sort of negativity that we've been hearing and thinking about. And you look at Mamdani and you look at what's happening in New York and that's a beautiful thing. And we talked about an hour one actually with Joshua Hayes that, you know, there is a judgment and I believe it's linked to abortion. Actually if you look at all the immigration that we've had in, it's roughly one to one with how many babies we've killed. Surprise, surprise. But God is also a merciful God and he will heal our land and we do need to repent and we do need to seek him out. And it's just beautiful that you're a part of God's redemption plan for this story, for this country. We could go on for a long time, but I have to play the Miss Rachel clips.
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G
Let's get into that.
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F
It's a nice segue, Maumdani.
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B
I. It's a total. It's a. It's the awkward, most awkward segue I've had in a while. But Kate Scott, here we go. You are making fun of Ms. Rachel who is huge and she's basically a commie, huge with kids. She's getting weirder and weirder. And so you took it upon yourself to take her on. And this is the Mom Donnie clip. There you go. That will. That'll be the glue. Here. SOP 35.
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F
Hi, friends. Today's letter is M for mom Johnny.
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E
Yay.
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F
Mom Johnny is brown. Right? Which is better than white. Good. If Timmy has two houses and DeAndre has none, what should Timmy do?
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E
Hmm.
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F
I know. Give him his houses, right?
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C
Oh, my.
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G
How real is that?
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F
Right?
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A
Yeah.
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F
I mean, I don't really have much to say yet.
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B
You said it all.
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E
She's a theater girl.
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F
Yeah, it's true.
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B
You're like. You're a theater kid, which I've been trained to be very leery of. And yet here you come, making me laugh about. About Mom Donnie. I just have to play one more because it's so funny. Ice clip 36.
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F
Hi, friends. Today's letter is I for illegal aliens. I mean, it's supposed to say ice. Do you know the ice agent? The ice agent. The ice agent. Do you know the ice agent, the answer in space Spanish is no. Remember, kids, plead the fifth or the Cinco. Yes.
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B
That's really funny.
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F
Thank you.
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B
I noticed it was, like, hard for you to watch yourself, but these have gone viral.
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F
They really have. You got to give the people what they want, right?
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B
It's really fun. I wonder if our audience is familiar with Ms. Rachel. If you're a parent, you're familiar with Ms. Rachel. It's like YouTube pushes her right up to the top of your feed. I think it's a whole lot.
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F
Liberal young adults are really fond of Ms. Rachel as well, too, for some reason, because they're in my comment section, angry.
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B
Attacking you.
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F
Yes.
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B
What are they saying?
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F
Aware of her, too. That she's a saint, that she's a true Christian. She is. Compared to Mr. Rogers and her, you know, social justice and everything. She's everything I'll never be.
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B
Wait, is she. Does she not have kids herself?
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F
She does.
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B
Oh, she does have.
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F
I believe she has two. One was actually through surrogacy, so that's a fun fact.
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B
And then she was able to have one herself, I believe.
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F
So.
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B
There's got to be a story there.
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F
There's gotta.
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B
You should look into that and make your next video about how liberal commies don't actually want to bear their own children. I don't know. Maybe it was a medical condition. I don't want to get ahead of myself, but that's strange. Maybe she struggled and, you know. All right, whatever. So Mick has a question that I want to read to you guys. He says, please read for me. He goes for the guests. What is the toughest part of the debates? And pick up the mics. And what is the most gratifying part of it? We'll start, we'll go in this order.
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F
Sure. I mean, would say the toughest part is you don't know what they're going to ask. I think there's the improv to bring it back to theater. There's the improv element there. And then the most rewarding was that the second part, he said, most rewarding is changing someone's mind, of course, that
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B
they can't prove us wrong either in person or online.
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F
Right, right. And then. Sorry, more than that is when you do change their mind ultimately.
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B
Yeah, love that.
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E
The toughest part is students will come up with a vague impression of an idea with no sites, no examples, no facts, and they will ask you about it and you'll say, okay, what exactly are we talking about here? And they're like, I don't know, I just saw something online about it two weeks ago. And I'm like, well, let's get something tangible. But the most gratifying part is I talk to women about why feminism is lied to them, why it's a failure as an ideology and we should completely move on from it as a country. And usually will bring people in with those kinds of anti feminist statements. And they come in and I address them, I talk, I say their name, I talk to them kindly, I smile at them and they're like, oh, you're not really mean and awful and nasty and horrible. And so when I'm able to actually give a testament and not be exactly what they expect me to be and they actually have a good conversation experience with me, that does a lot.
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B
Awesome.
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G
That's amazing. The hardest part, I would say, is separating the ideology from the person. And I'll use Islam as a great example. Like, I love Muslims so much. They're my whole family, my bloodline, my friends. But I stand so firmly against Islam that it is not even funny. And having to separate your own flesh and like your own beliefs around that and just loving the person but being so harsh on the truth and radical ideology, that's definitely the hardest part, but it's probably the most rewarding as well. I will say the most rewarding though is when I'm debating Muslims on college campuses, they the, you know, the msa, you know, in Islamic culture, the women are not going to engage with the men. And when I'm engaging with the Men on campus, and we catch them and we show them some truth or something they didn't know. I always look at the crowd and I notice the Muslim women in the hijabs are the ones that are watching so intently, almost like taking mental notes. And they engage so beautifully with it afterwards. Like, I would never get a chance to talk to them. But seeing somebody who they've never seen lose a debate on the Muslim side, lose to something like, you know, a basic point that I would bring up is the most rewarding thing.
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B
What are some of the basic points you bring up? The Islam debate that, like, spins their head up.
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G
Yeah, so. So a lot of people argue Islam as a Christian heresy. It's actually a rabbinical Jewish heresy. So what I use is I only use the Torah to actually deconstruct just the authority of the Quran. And I really just press them on the corruption claim. And the biggest thing I'll give you probably the most powerful one I have right now. In Surah 17, verse 101, it says, oh, children of Israel, you know, we clearly gave Moses nine clear signs. And it's referring to the 10 plagues in the Bible. Okay, but in the Quran, it's nine. And I press the Muslim, well, guess which plague is missing from the Quran. Guess what? Mohammed never heard of the Passover, the most important plague. And so I'll press the Muslims on, well, can you explain the Passover? A lot of them can't even do it because they never heard of it. But if they can do it now, I press them. Okay, so the Passover, the festival of unleavened bread, everything in between, it's mentioned in the Bible about 70 times. So if you're gonna say that my scripture is corrupted, why did the Jews make up the Passover? The blood on the doorpost, the Passover lamb, the festivals, and then practice it all the way from Exodus to the
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B
Last Supper to Corinthians. Well, yeah, exactly. It's a foreshadowing of Jesus being the firstborn son to die.
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G
Exactly right.
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B
As a sacrifice for our sins as Christians. Exactly. So that's fascinating that they would leave out probably the climax of that story and the one that foreshadows Jesus, the true Messiah. Yeah, that's great. Okay, you brought up feminism, and I have the clip loaded now. You went viral for this, and it looks like you're basically having a realization. We'll play it. It's pretty short, but I love it. Go ahead and play 38. It's very short, but the caption says, when you realize the feminist movement is a government scam so they could get the other half of the population working so they could double their tax intake and raise your children by their standards. Yeah, based.
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E
That's exactly what feminism has intended to do. And a lot of people think that feminism can take credit for getting women the ability to work at all, the ability to vote, the ability to wear pants, the ability to speak freely. And I have a speaking series that I'm doing on a lot of college campuses where I bust these feminist myths, like point by point. And so my entire life goal is to show women that they are actually the victims of feminism. And it's time to move on. We're not moving back to the 1950s. We're not moving back to Victorian era, But the point is we're not moving back. And a lot of people on the right want to go back to this like ideological perfect time, but it's not gonna happen. We need to move on and past feminism to a spirit of femininity.
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B
I won't make random statements that contradict your. I'm just saying. The 90s regret. Anthony, welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. Please unmute yourself. Hey, Andrew, what's going on? Hey, man. What's going on? Just working, you know. Hopefully my baseball team can beat your rival tonight, but that would be asking a lot. Bring it. What do we have? 52 wins. You have more than me now, so let's just leave it like that. So actually, so here's my question and it's kind of funny that you got the three guests on, so maybe they can answer it since they've done training with media and everything. I've seen this because I'm on the campaign committee from my local town supervisor who's Republican. We're trying to take back a one year term from a far left stay at home, 37 year old dad who really has never worked. Why do Republicans and excuse my language in this, I would say, I'll say sock at messaging. They have communications people. They can't communicate anything correctly. They just rather. I know, Andrew, you and Blake have talked about this. They would rather get up there and just give a press conference or read off a speech. They can't go off the cusp at all. Well, some of them can, but yeah, you guys, who wants to take that one? Why do Republicans suck at messaging so bad?
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F
I'll take it. I think.
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B
Just please, no scary stuff like the Rachel thing that kind of had me creeped out when I was laughing.
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F
Hey, that means I did a good job. Right. That's the point.
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B
This Rachel's a terrifying cultural phenomenon.
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G
You'll never forget it.
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B
No, I won't.
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F
I think that it has a lot to do with conservatives and Christians abandoning ship. I actually love that sign over there. It says, don't give up the ship. And I feel like, for some reason, the creative gifts have been overtaken by liberals. That's actually one of my main callings, I would say, like, why I'm put on this earth is to. Is to encourage others to use gifts that God gave us for his glory without compromise. And so, for some reason, culturally, when it comes to the creative things like marketing or being able to talk in front of people with messages, it's been abandoned. So I don't know why that has occurred, but it's time we doing it. Yeah.
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B
Part of an institutional capture. Like in Hollywood.
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F
Right.
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B
It became dominated by the left partly because of our inherent wiring, but then it just went full crazy, probably around the 70s, 80s, and then it's gone on till now, and, you know, it's a huge problem. So we need the long march back through the institutions, and we need to create a counter institutions, parallel institutions as well. What do you think? 30 seconds.
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E
Art has always been pushing the boundaries of what's acceptable. And typically, when you're pushing away from Christianity, you push toward the left. And so that is exactly why all of our institutions have been, quote, taken over by the left. But you're right. We need a recovery of creativity and an embrace of creativity on the right so that we can be quote, unquote, cool again.
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F
Right.
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B
Well, 10 seconds. We'll pause. I don't want to put you in that kind of bubble there. Great question, Anthony. Hillsdale College, Great Books 101 Ancient to Medieval course is an absolute game changer. I'm taking it right now, and you got to check it out. So before Charlie ever stepped into a debate stage or behind a microphone, he understood something important. If you want to lead, you have to first learn. Charlie believed that ideas shape character and conviction and courage, and that's why he spent so many years studying the classics, the American Founding and the Bible, and. And he did a lot of that through Hillsdale College's free online courses. These are real college courses taught by actual Hillsdale professors. They're amazing. The best academics in the country. One of those courses, like I just said, is Great Books 101 Ancient to Medieval, where you'll study foundational authors like Homer, Augustine, Dante, Chaucer writers who shape Western civilization, and they still speak to the deepest questions about our human nature and courage and family and government. The course includes Homer's Iliad and Odyssey, the epic stories of Achilles and Odysseus that have influenced the west for thousands of years. And this summer, Hillsdale College is releasing a brand new course dedicated entirely to Homer's odyssey. Great Books 101 is the perfect way to prepare before the full Odyssey course launches in July. Charlie understood that learning isn't just about gaining knowledge. It's about forming the mind and character needed to face the challenges of life with wisdom and courage. So you can enroll today completely free. Visit CharlieForHillsdale.com to start learning today. That's CharlieForHillsdale.com CharlieForHillsdale.com, learn deeply, think clearly, lead boldly, carry it forward. We've got our Ask Us Anything. And we did a hot swap in the break. Now we have Shane Winnings, who is the chairman and CEO of Promise Keepers. You can find him on Instagram at. Shane Winnings.
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C
That's right.
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Boom. All right, we're gonna get into it. He's a great Christian, great debater. He had one of the most viral clips from the last pick up the mic tour during the spring semester. So our next up. Hold on, I got Elizabeth. Elizabeth, welcome to the show. Please unmute yourself. Hi. Thank you so much for taking my call. Absolutely. And I'm gonna be a bit cheeky, I know, but J.D. vance watches the show sometimes. I would just like to throw out there that Charlie would be a great name for your baby coming in July. Ah, there it is. JD And Usha, did you hear that? I endorse. Very good. What's your question, Elizabeth? Well, the reason I'm calling, and I apologize, the note that I had unfortunately went blank. But basically, when you're filling out any kind of immigration forms, whether it be for the green card, coming in for a work visa, or anything of that nature, you have to fill out in your form that you are not associated with the Communist Party or. Or totalitarian regime or communism. So I was thinking, if you are a person who loves communism and you lied on your form, could that be used to denaturalize all of these crazy foreign communists? And we also use that to clean up our university systems that are filled with foreign communists. Yes. The short answer is yes. And we actually talked about that yesterday on the show, that you could actually use that to deport some of these DSA radical commies that think they're heading into Congress next year. You could actually use that to deport and denaturalize them. True story. Now, have we ever done that as a. Have we ever had the guts to do that? As Sean Davis said, who was on the show when we were talking about. Do you have the testicular fortitude to do that? Absolutely not. They do not. I would love to see them do this. This is a perfect reason to use such a thing. Now you have to be very, very careful about who you use it on. Chevalier would be my choice. Okay. And this is why? Because she started an organization that has proudly and loudly claimed publicly that their job is to destroy Western civilization. Okay? So if you want to be a congresswoman from the state of New York, serving the entire country from D.C. and you want to destroy that country, you can get the heck out. Shane, am I wrong?
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No, I totally agree. I mean, even when I was in the military, we take an oath to defend everyone and defeat enemies, you know, foreign and domestic. And I think we need to recognize that these ideologies, they are enemies of what it means to be an American. So the fact that they can exist in this country, let alone take positions of power, it's mind blowing to me. It feels like we're watching a Black Mirror episode and we need to do something about it.
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Yeah, there was this. So you can throw this tweet up. This is from Aesthetica Said the best thing the Trump administration could do in response to the communist terrorists being elected by New York City Dems is to just denaturalize and deport them using the Immigration and Nationality act and the Communist control Act of 1954. They are completely within the rights to do this. It will create a national scandal. Of course it will. Can you imagine the Ms. Now segments if they actually did this? It would be apoplectic and totally beautiful to watch. It will create a national scandal that will force mainstream Democrats to defend these radical communists, which they don't want to do. They will want. They want to ignore them. Most importantly, it sets a precedent and severely hampers the long term plans of the DSA Communist left. Totally agree. I agree. So hopefully that answers your question. It's just gonna take some Will. That's all it's gonna take. Tim, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Please unmute yourself. Hey, everybody, thanks for taking our question. Listen, we're a homeschool family here in Florida and our daughter Natalie really likes to study the American founding. And she's here beside me, she actually has a question she would like to ask. Wonderful.
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Sweet.
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Hello, my name is Natalie. Did Charlie have a favorite founding father?
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And if so, who was it?
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Yeah, Charlie liked a lot of the Founding Fathers, I'd say. I'd heard him quote the Madison stuff a lot. I've heard him quote Adams a lot. Obviously, we all love George Washington, but, yeah, Madison, I think, because of his contributions to the Federalist Papers, was a big one. John Jay was another writer of the Federalist Papers. So, yeah, I would say that's probably my take. I don't know. I wish Blake was here for this, but I'm pretty sure Madison would probably be right up there at the top. And Adams and Adams had that great quote saying the Constitution was written only for a moral and religious people and was inadequate for any other. And so he often quoted that. He talked about Thomas Paine quite a bit, but Thomas Paine ended up kind of embracing the French Revolution. So I think he liked his quotes but didn't like the trajectory ultimately of his story, if that makes sense. Does that answer your question? Yeah.
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Thanks.
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Wonderful. Of course. Who do we got next? Gina. Gina, welcome to the show. Please unmute yourself.
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Hi, everybody.
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I don't mean to be a downer,
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but I have to tell you, every
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time, every time I watch your show and Charlie's in the commercials, my heart just breaks. I can't. I was on Charlie's show not, not long before he passed. I was on your show not long after he passed. I'm sorry.
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I was with him before he passed, of course, and with you after he passed.
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I had some questions when the Candace thing first hit and I was on your show and then she played a
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clip of me on your show on her show.
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I'm still. I'm not. I'm not well about it all. There are still so many questions, and I, I don't expect you're going to answer those today. I still like to sign on to the show from time to time when I can tolerate it. I want to ask the question, to try to keep you guys on track with. With the topic that you've got going today.
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My question was your.
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Your theater. You pointed Andrew, to a theater leariness and theater kids. Theater kids just like to know a little bit more about why you've got that background. I think it's when you share with
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other people and then you've got theater
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kids right there on your show today.
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So here we go. We have one. We made one exception. Gina, to the rule.
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I feel so special.
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So you're basically wondering, you know, how, you know, how are we going to protect the country against the rise of the theater Kid left. Is that Your question?
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Well, that.
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That was. That was something else that was said
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right after I posed my first question.
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And I thought that plays right in because. Yes, they do.
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And I don't mean to point fingers at you.
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Well, she's one of the good ones, so that's good.
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But.
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Yeah.
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Why do you think it is that the theater kid, you know, thing is a thing. Why are you. Why are they so bent that way?
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I've thought about this a lot, and I think theater offers a family. When you. When you do a show, you. You're with each other for long hours, for long periods of time, and you. They call it like your theater family. And so, unfortunately, the kids who don't relate to their parents for. For various reasons, find a new, new family in theater. And unfortunately, because Christians have abandoned the theater space, they're performing plays that are leftist liberal propaganda leading them down the path of. Of a terrible life. And so that is the moral of the story that they're putting on with these shows, with their new family. And that sounds like the definition of a cult slightly. And so it's been like a collection of misfits.
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You guys got theories on this?
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You know, whenever I see really masculine men being forced into, like, feminine roles in theater and they get celebrated by, like, the entire school, I'm like, you know, maybe that's not the best thing to do and there needs to be some Jackman.
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Let's not go there. Okay? Don't bring him into the.
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That's my hot take.
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I mean, you gotta take on this.
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No, I mean, it is the running joke. Like, you know, my kid can do anything except drama or theater. And I. And I think it's just because of the culture that we're in. It would be great if it could shift the other way. You know, I remember being a young boy doing plays at church.
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Yeah.
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And that. That was cool. But then, you know, the first time I did drama in, like, seventh grade, I realized this is a very different animal, and maybe that's by design. So I think anything we see that's like, corrupting the minds or tends to have a path that the outcomes are kind of the same, I'm gonna steer away from that, unfortunately.
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I mean, that makes me sad on some level to hear you say that, though, Shane, because I do. I. I think that we need to reclaim the institutions.
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Oh, I agree.
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Like, long march back. And so when I see like, even, you know, Top Gun Maverick, for example, you know, Tom Cruise, for all his faults, we could go into them. He's a Patriot. He loves America through and through. And I felt like Maverick was a great Americana film, and I'd love to see more films like that.
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Same.
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And, you know, you see this Citizen Vigilante, which is a German guy that was just kind of had enough, and he was like, hey, I'm gonna tell the real story about some of these grooming gangs and things like this. You know, film is powerful, and we need theater. I want some conservative theater kids that aren't bad at their jobs. You know, that's the problem. I think conservatives sometimes feel restrained by their traditional values. And there's something about that median medium where it, like you said, it's pushing the boundaries. So you're almost like. It's almost like a PhD student that, like, their whole thing is to come up with new theories, whether or not they're good or not or whether they're productive or not, whether it's true or not. Right. They have to advance academia somehow. Hi, folks. Andrew Colvett here. I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why Refi. You've probably been hearing me talk about why Refi? For some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments. Maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. Yrefi will provide you a custom payment based on your ability to pay. They tailor each loan individually. They can save you thousands of dollars, and you can get your life back. We go to campuses all over America and we see student after student who's drowning in private student loan debt. Many of them don't even know how much they owe. Yrefi can help. Just go to yrefi.com that's the letter Y. Then refi.com and remember why Refi doesn't care what your credit score is. Just go to yrefi.com and tell them your friend Andrew sent you. So we've got. Okay, hold on. I want to do two things. Josiah is next, so I'm going to get the question, and then I want to. I want to get Shane's bio here. Josiah, welcome to the show. Unmute yourself.
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Hey, team.
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Thanks for the opportunity. I wanted to ask about something I'm passionate about, which is retaining information and then being able to articulate it very clearly through communication. And I was wondering what tips or things that you guys have learned in the communication space. And also if there's Something as like a boot camp or training that would be available to a student to also
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get on that magic as well.
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Why don't you guys answer that? What are you learning?
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Yeah, I've got a quick one for you. So I call. It's the big three. It's called Read, Write, Speak. If you can't speak, then you need to write more. If you can't write a lot, then go read more and you can kind of reverse engineer that formula. So then now if you want to become an excellent speaker, you have a systematic way to do that. So if you don't have things to talk about, write more about those things. It'll help you with your public speech, your ability to actually like on focus, formulate those ideas, live and communicate them in an effective way. And if you don't have things to write about, well, go read some books that you're really, really passionate about. You can run that system for pretty much any like, knowledge base that you want to have. That's what I'd say. That's what I do.
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Yeah, I still use flashcards and I write them myself. So I think again, writing something down. Even the Bible talks about in Philippians 4, like to meditate or to dwell. And one of those translations is to write at length. And so it's like the more you write these things, you, it actually gets ingrained in your brain and then it's just reps, you know, when you're talking about the recall, you have to get those reps in so that you can lower your heart rate, lower your cortisol, be able to remember. A lot of people get emotional and hot conversations or debates or when they're put on the spot. So I think just getting the reps in and knowing you're going to be a little rusty in the beginning.
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I have no notes, I have nothing to add. That's spectacular.
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Well, yeah, some of the things that we talked about yesterday, like I said, is understanding the. And Andrew Wilson, who's a great debater, was actually teaching part of the debate class that we had. So I would recommend checking out his stuff because he's, he's fantastic and he uses logic to deconstruct the, the, the, you know, the assertions of the left, if you will. And what's interesting is you realize that a lot of people make assertions. They make truth claims that are based on zero evidence. So just asking great questions is a huge, huge asset to you when you debate. Charlie used the Socratic method expertly in his debates. So you just say, hey, what evidence do you have for that? Have you read the study? You know, you just keep probing deeper in and oftentimes when you're kind of deconstructing somebody else's debate, if you can just allow them to make a fool of themselves, people love seeing that. Actually, if you're doing a live debate, for example, they love to see dumb people saying dumb things and making themselves look dumb doing it. I know that's cynical maybe to say, obviously we have a heart for the. The people across from us, but if their ideas are poisoning the country and they're destructive to our country, it's okay to let those ideas expose themselves for being false and ultimately terrible. Right. You want the idea to look bad. And sometimes that's going to mean the people that believe in those ideas are going to look bad. So you don't always have to be the biggest genius in the room to do that. You just let them out themselves and reveal themselves. And I mean, you. I saw a clip of Shane. Shane went super viral from our spring semester. And you just kept asking questions.
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Yeah.
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You just kept, what is a fetus? What is it? Right. You were having an abortion debate. Tell us about that.
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Yeah, I mean, you know, again, I'm not a high IQ person like Charlie. I don't think we have anybody like Charlie. He was one of.
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One of one.
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And so just being myself, I'm like, look, I'm a very common sense person. You know, I was in the army, so you got to get used to speaking to, like, the private in the room who's just out of high school. And so I ask a lot of questions. Hey, what do you mean by that? Okay, you're going to use this word. What does that mean to you? And the more you let them talk, one, the longer you have to think about what you're going to say. But you realize, like you said, they're not saying anything of substance. A lot of these kids are regurgitating buzzwords or phrases.
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They're regurgitating it.
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They don't know what it even means. And so just having a basic understanding of, like, what does fetus mean? It means offspring, little human. Okay, rephrase your sentence. I want to be able to kill the little human. And it doesn't sound so good. They don't like saying that. That's just one way to kind of walk someone into a trap.
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Yeah. And you are particularly good at the faith stuff. I mean, you're the chairman and CEO of Promise Keepers. Tell us about that.
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Yeah, I've been blessed to lead that. Founded in 1990 by Coach McCartney, who's in heaven right now with Charlie. And, you know, we are a national Christian men's ministry. Our goal is to equip every man in Christ to become better husbands for fathers and citizens. We've got to get involved as citizens, and so we're grateful. Through conferences, curriculum, campus tours, we're raising up the men of America. You strengthen the man, you strengthen the family. And little plug. You know, the number one opposition to a Marxist ideology is a strong family led by a strong man. That's what PK aims to raise up.
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Amen. It was interesting. I was talking with Andrew Wilson yesterday, and he was like, you know, asking, kind of like, posted me if you know anything about Andrew Wilson. He. He's like the Darth Vader of the right. He's like. He's a pretty savage analogy. Yeah, he's great, though, and Orthodox Christian guy. But he was like, hey, so challenge me to articulate our vision at Turning Point. I was like, it hasn't changed. He's like, well, what is it? And I was like, it's to empower Gen Z to live out the American dream, to have babies, get married, afford a family, not be debt slaves, and to pursue their Christian faith boldly and proudly and get in the public square. I mean, it's like, that's. Because that is the bedrock of any country. It is. You need strong men. You need strong women, too. Absolutely. But there's been such an assault against young men, and I think that's ultimately where Charlie shined so much, is that he gave young men the courage of their own conviction to speak loudly and proudly and unapologetically in the face of, you know, this toxic masculinity and this, you know, these accusations that are hurled on young men to cow us and, you know, put us. Put us in a low position. No, we are meant to be strong, our shoulders broad and fully confident. Right?
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And women want to follow a strong man. And a strong man is not lording over a woman. He's not dragging her along. He's leading her. You know, just like if I was dropped off in a jungle with my family, I'm not a mile ahead of them. I'm just one step ahead. I'm taking the hits first. That's what a godly man does, a leader. And so be a man worth following
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and be inspired by these. These young people that are going out on campus leading ministries. Both of you, leading the theater, kid. Charge back to the. And they're taking. They're taking. They're picking up the mantle and they're picking up the mic. And we're proud of them and we're grateful for them to be with us here on campus as we try and win the next generation for the country, for Christ and for the future.
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