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Andrew Colvett
Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show from the Bitcoin mobile studio. Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this fine show. I'm in for Charlie today. He's on assignment. But we unpack in detail everything you need to know about what we learned from the Durham Annex report that was just declassified by Chuck Grassley, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. He declassified it so we could dive into it. I go into the most salacious details. I, brick by brick, make the case for why this is one of, if not the greatest political scandals and cover ups in our history. And then we bring in Alex Marlowe, author of the new book Breaking the Law, to explain why the media is complicit in the silence and they are not picking up this story, which is full of bombshells. We break that down and so much more. If this show gives you clarity in a sea of chaos, if this show is a source of light and freedom and joy and clarity, I would just ask you become a paying member@members.charlie kirk.com with a monthly subscription. You get merch discounts, you get access to private recordings discounts, you get VIP access at our events, you get to take part in our weekly ama and so much more. Please consider going to members. Charlie. Charlie Kirk.commembers. charlieKirk.com Buckle up. Here we go.
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Alex Marlowe
Charlie.
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Charlie Kirk
What you've done is incredible here.
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Andrew Colvett
Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are.
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Alex Marlowe
Lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point usa.
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Charlie Kirk
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Andrew Colvett
We want to cover the Russia hoax. Russia, Russia, Russia. And there's so much to go over. There's so many little nuances and details here. So I want you to sit back, relax and listen as we walk through detail after detail here. And the team and Charlie posted a tweet yesterday that Even the FBI director Cash Patel, quote, tweeted and said, this is a great summary of what's going on. So we've been diving into this a lot. I have Blake and the team in the studio diving through everything, researching everything. I've been looking through everything. There's a lot here. And so let me just give you the basics of the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax. And Chuck Grassley is calling it one of the biggest political scandals and cover ups in American history. Jonathan Turley's calling it a elaborate political illusion. And now you're, it's like you're on stage magic show and they bring one of the attendees up on stage and you can't figure out how the trick worked. Well, now we're getting to see how the trick worked, how they pulled off one of the biggest scandals in American history. And there's a little bit of, I would say, caution, at least on one piece of evidence that we need to exercise here. And I'll get to that in just a second. But here's the rundown. Yesterday, Chuck Grassley, Right before our show yesterday, Chuck Grassley's office released a previously classified 29 page annex to the 300 page 2023 Durham report. And apparently this was hard. This was, this took a lot of coordination between the CIA and the FBI to release this report, to declassify it to the public. So thank you to both of the leaderships in those, in those agencies. So the main thrust of this annex is that US Intelligence collected reports from a Russian source suggesting that Russia had discovered a plan by Hillary Clinton in the Clinton campaign to concoct false ties between the Trump campaign and Russia as a campaign tactic. And I want you to take your, your mind back into this time frame. In 2016, Hillary Clinton was under increasing scrutiny for her use of a private, private email server, very highly sensitive and classified documents, government documents. And that's all anybody wanted to talk about. Remember the main moment on a debate stage during the primary between Bernie and Hillary, and Bernie even said, I'm sick of talking about damn emails or whatever. Well, the American people were not sick of talking about emails. And Hillary Clinton knew that. And so this whole scheme gets concocted. Well, guess what? We're going to drop scandalous lies about President Trump to distract from the email server. Now see, the annex is still significantly redacted, but it appears that the contents are based on Russia successfully hacking various left wing think tanks and organizations back in 2016 and then creating intelligence reports about what they found. So a lot of these have been translated From Russian, you'll see this later. One of these reports, translated from Russian describes a purported email sent by Leonard Bernardo, an official at the Soros funded Open Society foundations. These emails, if they're real, say that Hillary Clinton personally approved a plan. Right. So this is interesting. So with the DNI bombshells from Tulsi Gabbard, we learned that Obama personally directed a new assessment, a new intel assessment. Well, in this case, we learned that Hillary Clinton personally approved a plan by her adviser Julianne Smith to quote, smear Donald Trump by magnifying the scandal tied to the intrusion by the Russian Special Services in the pre election process. Now that special services, remember that expression because it's a translation from Russian Special Services. In another email allegedly sent by Bernardo, he declares that once the Clinton campaign launches their smear campaign, quote, later, the FBI will put more oil into the fire. In other words, the report seems to be describing a plan for the Clinton campaign and the FBI to coordinate, in the pure concoction, the invention of a Trump Russia collusion narrative. So let me repeat, their plan was to weaponize the Intel Committee community. They knew with alarming specificity, according to the Durham annex, how this would play out. So either they knew the rhythms of the FBI and how this would be investigated, which is the, the more, let's say generous interpretation, or there was direct collaboration between Clinton campaign operatives and FBI assets or FBI personnel knowing exactly the sequence of events that would play out. They knew that they could launder this salacious investigation, this concocted manufactured steel dossier Russia collusion hoax through the FBI and through the IC in order to put oil on the fire. All of this happened in July 2016, way before the November election and just days before the FBI launched Crossfire Hurricane, the very controversial investigation. Now this is the one note of caution that I want to pause on. So this is dated July 27, 2016. It seems the Durham team tried to authenticate these emails. At first there was an assessment that they were authentic. So the running assumption at first was that they were reliable. Then they were called into question. So they found some evidence that the emails were actually a composite of emails from several different sources that the Russians were able to hack in the summer of 2016. For example, large parts of one of the supposed Bernardo emails actually has identical language to a different email from Tim Mauer, a figure at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. So what does that mean? We don't know. It could be some zombie amalgamation of different sources, you know, put together for, you know, quick reading. We don't know what? Why these emails match each other. But even if these emails are fake, the US Government actually became. This is what we know. The US Government became aware of these Russia reports right away. John Brennan, who more and more is appearing to be the chief villain in all of this, briefed President Obama about these Russian reports in early August 2016, at virtually the same moment that Crossfire Hurricane was getting started. So they knew without a shadow of a doubt that Russians at least believe there was a plot for the FBI to boost the Clinton campaign by investigating Trump. And guess what? The FBI knew this. And instead of pulling back investigating the Clinton campaign, what did they do? They investigated President Trump anyways. So let's dive into this email again. This, this Leonard Bernardo email. Open societies guy says hrc Hillary Rodham Clinton approve Julia's idea about Trump and Russian hackers hampering US Elections. This should distract people from her own missing email, especially if the affair goes to the Olympic level. The point is making the Russia Russian play a US Domestic issue say something like critical infrastructure threat for the election to feel menace. Since both POTUS and Vice POTUS have acknowledged the fact IC would speed up searching for evidence that regrettably still unavailable. They're telling you that they knew the way this was gonna play out. They're telling you that they manufactured intelligence to smear Trump and they hoped it would go to the Olympic level. And guess who they used? The US Media.
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Charlie Kirk
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Andrew Colvett
Kirk. I'm going to give you a piece of tape here from Robby Mook. He was the campaign manager Hillary for America in 2016. This is him with Jake Tapper. And I want you to pay close attention to how this was laundered into the public domain. All of these lies, these concoctions. Again, July 2016. This is far before this became a, a major, major intel community led scandal that ended up leading to a special counsel with Robert Mueller and the hijacking of Trump's almost his entire first term. Dramatic the consequences that this lie ultimately had.551.
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Jake Tapper
What's disturbing to us is that we experts are telling us that Russian state actors broke into the dnc, stole these emails and other experts are now saying that they are. The Russians are releasing these emails for the purpose of actually helping Donald Trump. I think we need to be concerned that. We also saw last week at the Republican convention that Trump and his allies made changes to the Republican platform to make it more pro Russian. And we saw him talking about how NATO shouldn't intervene to defend, necessarily should intervene to defend our Eastern European allies if they're attacked by Russia. So I think when you put all this together, it's a disturbing picture and I think voters need to reflect on that.
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Andrew Colvett
Mm. Did you see that? JAKE Tapper, cnn Looking for a little convention bounce. They had it all planned out, folks. And this is another piece of the Duramanics that is going viral right now. It's page four and five and it deals. So one point I want to make very clear to people is that yes, Russia was hacking emails. Here's what I want to make very clear to people though, that yes, the Russians were hacking emails. Guess what? The reason we have the Duramanics is because we were hacking Russia's emails. People hack the countries, hack each other's stuff all the time. That is not the key distinction I want you to focus on. This happens all the time. What the, the, the hoax, the illusion, the prestige is that they were concocting a narrative that there was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia and that Russia wanted Trump to win. Both of those allegations, both of those lies are what they are. They are false, they are manufactured, they're cooked intel. And they were laundered into the intelligence community, the FBI, because they knew the FBI would add credence and credibility to them, which they did. So this is one of the things I want to, I want to on this is on page four. So it says, among other things, the Clinton staff would will with support from Special Services. Again, remember, this is translated from Russian. Is preparing scandalous revelations of business relations between Trump and the Russian mafia. And if you go to page five, it says with Regard to discussion in that last paragraph of his scandalous revelations that the Clinton staff was preparing with support from special Services, the word that FBI linguist translated special services are Russian words that one analyst believed at the time referred to the FBI and the CIA or more broadly to the intelligence communities. So this is a huge. And basically another analyst caveating in that it was speculation, said that perhaps the phrase special services in this context could refer to Trump dossier author Christopher Steele, who, according to media reports and Steele's own testimony in UK Legal proceedings, formerly worked as an intelligence professional for the British government. So they were, they knew that there was coordination between the Hillary Clinton campaign and special Services, I. E. CHRISTOPHER steele. So let's sum this all up really quick. And I think it's important because it's, it's, there is a lot to track here, but it's easy to kind of figure it out. So Chuck Grassley going to recap, releases these documents, declassifies them. Here's what we now know. The FBI knew the Russia collusion hoax arose from the Clinton campaign and then they ignored key intel to cover it up. The FBI knew the Clinton campaign's plan was to use or possibly coordinate with the Obama FBI to accelerate the narrative and leak it into US Press outlets. The FBI placed thousands of relevant documents in burn bags for destruction and then cash. Patel found them in a secret room at the FBI. That's why we have this. Hillary Clinton approved of that plan to concoct a Donald Trump colluding with Russia narrative. She personally did it in order to distract the public from her email server. The original DNI report that we now know from Tulsi Gabbard from late 2016 rightly said that Russia didn't favor Trump and didn't work to elect Trump. Even holding back damaging intel on Hillary, Obama nevertheless ordered a new assessment that said Russia did.
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Charlie Kirk
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Andrew Colvett
All right, without further ado, the great Alex Marlo. Welcome, welcome, welcome, Alex. Thanks for making the time. I know you. You were taking some much needed summer vacay vacation. So you've made it back and you're coming back.
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Alex Marlowe
I barely made it back. I barely made it back. I survived the tsunami.
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Andrew Colvett
Yeah, you were. I mean, I didn't want to be specific about locations and times and places because we are having an intel community conversation. But yeah, you were in the islands. You were in Hawaii.
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Alex Marlowe
And I was right. A first floor, westward facing hotel room about, I would say, not even a sandwich, like a hard hit putt from the beach. And so I was in one of the worst spots on planet Earth according to all of the initial prognostications. And there was a moment there where I was with my family of six, I've got four small children. I was thinking, like, is this our last day on Earth? Like, literally that was the vibe for about five minutes. And then it ended up. What I did is I got everyone in the car and I know the area fairly well. We vacation up there quite a bit. And I went to the iconic plantation golf course at Kapalua and we drove up 500ft and we camped out there. And my kids played Zombies on the 18th fairway while I anxiously checked my phone to see if the apocalypse was coming. And Andrew, the waves, I don't even think they made it to just average high tide. Like, there wasn't. There wasn't even no tsunami. There was nothing. And we were just all up there panicking. And I was like sleeping on a cart path and the bugs were biting me and the government wasn't telling us anything. And then people online were wondering why I was complaining on X, the Everything app. But I thought, like, they're not telling me anything. We're up here. We're all, all the hundreds of people and no one's getting told anything about what's going on, about whether or not we're all Dead or not.
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Andrew Colvett
I'm so glad you're, you're. That we really did need a post mortem for that because we were looking at the reports too, you know, praying for Hawaii, all this stuff. And then I woke up in the morning and, you know, there was nothing but complete nothing burger. I don't know how we got it so wrong, but thank God. Maybe it was divine intervention. Maybe the systems all worked.
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Alex Marlowe
Consideration, it is a consideration. Definitely crossed my mind. I mean, not to be. And I'm not being glib or sarcastic at all. It did cross my mind because it was like, is this going to be something that's going to devastate the whole planet? And then it was literally a four foot wave. I mean, that was just, it was nothing. So it was unbelievable.
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Andrew Colvett
You know, one tsunami that did end up materializing was this Russia hoax. And it really did. I mean, they placed it in the, they, they laundered that intel, that fake intel from the Russian dossier.
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Alex Marlowe
Yes.
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Andrew Colvett
In to the intel community, the FBI. There was a coordinated attempt. They knew about it. It was a plan to distract from the Clinton email private server controversy. Alex, I want you to take a step back here and I want you to just, I mean, as somebody who's been in this space for a long time, understands the history of hoaxes and political scandals, where do you rank this? And I want to start what stands out the most to you?
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Alex Marlowe
Yeah, so I thinking about ranking. It's funny you asked that because I was thinking about the same thing because you guys have been kind enough to talk about my forthcoming book, Breaking the Law, which is out next week and hopefully we'll talk more about it. Which course I regard the Biden White House coordinated lawfare against Trump to try to rig an election to be the greatest hoax of all time, or at least of the century. And so that's number one. But I would see the case that this is on that level a close second because it really did hijack an entire presidential term. They were attempting to nullify the 2016 election. This was their way of trying to make it right. When the media got too arrogant and too overconfident. They thought Hillary Clinton was such a sure thing that it was impossible for Donald Trump to win. They thought it was such a lock, which was so amazing because I actually was one of the people who thought Trump was going to win. Maybe it's just because I was living it every day from very early on, really, even before Trump.
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Andrew Colvett
I didn't.
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Alex Marlowe
Yeah, but I didn't.
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Andrew Colvett
I didn't think, I didn't think Trump had a chance. I'll be honest. I mean, I think election night on 2016, I'm not proud of that. I mean, probably some people in the audience are upset at me right now. I just didn't think it was going to happen. I didn't. I, you know, I believed the fake polls or whatever and I was just.
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Alex Marlowe
Yeah, this isn't going to happen. That was the consensus. But I don't know, maybe it was my time on talk radio and just lean the newsroom at Breitbart, but I felt like the people were really with us and I thought the Democrats were going to catch him sleeping and that's what happened. And this was their way to make it right. They were trying to make it right by just, we're just going to hijack the whole administration. We're going to make it so that he can't do anything and that he's hamstrung and we're going to use our allies in the establishment media to make sure that we do that.
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Andrew Colvett
Yeah. And Alex, I want to, I want to dive into this particular point. You're a newsman, you're the editor in chief of Breitbart News. Everybody needs to check it out. One of my daily go tos. So, Alex, from a media perspective, and I love the way Turley, I spent a lot of time reading, going through Jonathan Turley this morning. But you know, he basically says the reason that they are not the media will not cover this story, the new revelation is because it's not so much reporting as a confession that they would have to own up to the fact that they were either patsies or co conspirators in one of the greatest political hoaxes of all time. And they're not just not simply not willing to eat crow that much and do it. What's your take on the media coverage or lack thereof from this?
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Alex Marlowe
This is a huge problem with the media. And he's correct to identify this because you can apply this to any number of major media stories. Where the establishment gets it wrong initially is that they get cognitive dissonance that how could I have been wrong? I'm the elite. I'm the one who pays the closest attention. I, I'm the smartest. They all think of themselves that way. And then when they get one wrong, their instinct isn't to be, well, let me correct this quickly so I can restore credibility. It's no how do I rearrange the facts and how do I concoct a narrative to get to some answer that I was actually right. And you'll see this a lot even with some people that you like in conservative media. We saw this a bit after some of the people who had warned against the worst case scenarios for the Iran attack then announced that they were correct afterwards when they weren't correct in their assessment. And some of these people, my friends, I'm not trying to pick on people, it's just the nature of the media beast is that people are more inclined when they get one wrong to announce no, really, I'm right, you just don't understand it and gaslight you in that way rather than just own up to it. And so this certainly happened here. When it became clear after really just a few months. I got to say, Andrew, that there's my favorite clip I ever did of media. I was on Bill Maher show about nine months into the Russian collusion hoax and I said that I've seen enough and this is a hoax, is not real. And if you show me some evidence, I'll come back and I'll eat crow in front of your show in your audience. And we never learned anything. And we're still learning how the say we're now seven years afterwards, eight years after, and we're still learning that there is nothing connecting Trump and Russia. This should have been completely over with after the Mueller report and and yet it continues to this day. If you pin down pencil neck Adam Schiff and you ask him is Trump a Russian Asset, he will 100% tell you that he is because pencil neck cannot come to grips with the fact that he's been wrong all these years. He'll never admit it to himself. And all of his allies in the media are the same way. This is a big fundamental problem with American journalism right now.
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Andrew Colvett
My question is can this really result in the. I think the outcome. Listen, I think I have a sober view of what's possible here. I mean, I think Obama is completely not. I mean he's gonna be fine. Maybe it will tarnish his legacy. We're not getting Obama. You know, you could argue it from five different ways, but the potentially the Supreme Court ruling on presidential immunity is going to shield him in this instance. That's a very real outcome. What I do think is possible is, is potentially getting Brennan, maybe Comey Clapper, but Brennan for sure. But the question is, will any of these investigations result in accountability? Alex, if the, the mainstream US Media that is consumed at rabidly within the DC corridor, the Acela corridor, if they do not get on board, if they do not put their stamp of approval that there is something dramatically wrong and sinister that happened here. And if we, you know, if, if you can't, if they, if this isn't a smoking gun, I don't know what it is. But they're still writing op eds. I mean, Comey or actually was a clapper. And Brennan wrote an op ed in the New York Times denying it all, and they're setting the record straight. So they still think that they can lever the, the media in the US to sort of be their smokescreen and protect them from accountability here. Alex, if we don't have that, has the media landscape enough that it simply no longer matters if the DC Media elite do not get on board with what really happened here, can we still get accountability?
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Alex Marlowe
Yeah. This is the big question for lawmakers, is the big question for the conservative legal apparatus, is what pressure can we bring, what investigations need to take place, and can we actually get some perp walks? I will tell you that my audience at Breitbart, vast audience, were the biggest outlet on social media other than, other than maybe Fox, and we've got, I think, at 1% of their budget. And I will tell you that there's a real cynicism in the audience that anyone will actually be held to account, and that the best case scenario is simply that we fire people up, we get the word out so that we make sure that these people are never elected again. And I feel like I'm holding out some hope that maybe with the Trump government, with Tulsi Gabbard, with some of these leaders that we have now, that there is a. A sense of justice that needs to take place, and maybe they will dazzle us with something. But I have grown, so my expectations are so low at this point that anyone gets held accountable for past crimes, and maybe our best case scenario is simply to win every single election going forward.
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Andrew Colvett
Yeah, I mean, their, their utter defeat would be a sweet, sweet vengeance. But here's. Here's the thing. We're going to talk about your book and Breaking the Law, and I thought it was interesting you started this by saying, actually, Joe Biden's crimes against Trump and all the lawfare that Trump survived actually was the greater political scandal. I just think it's amazing that we're still sorting through. I think it's important that we do look back and we do bring accountability and justice to what happened, because at a minimum, we need to have a full understanding of this atrocity. And if we can't send Brennan to jail, at least we can make him die in disgrace.
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Andrew Colvett
Alex, you have a brand new book out and I want you to just shamelessly plug it. It comes out next Tuesday so you can still pre order it. Help him get on. Help him defeat the New York Times. You know Tommy's over there. Get him on that list. Breaking the Law by Alex Marlow. The latest in the breaking series. Alex. Shameless plug. I want you to tell the audience everything about it, where they can get it, et cetera.
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Alex Marlowe
Thank you, Andrew. I really want the grassroots behind this thing because we just survived one of the biggest political scandals of modern times in America and we're just playing it entirely too cool. It was the Joe Biden White House attempted to jail and bankrupt Donald Trump by any means possible in multiple fronts. They were deeply involved in all the various cases. I go through the six major ones against President Trump case by case. And, and almost at every point there was coordination at the very top of the Biden government. Biden himself said that we need to lock him up, we need to put Trump in jail. It was always his thing. And it wasn't like Trump doing campaign rhetoric. He was in charge of the US Government. He had said that. And this is in the middle of an election. He tried to jail and bankrupt and cruel and unusually punish the standard bearer of the opposite political party. The Evidence is crystal clear. I lay it out, all out in the book, but this is a most blatant election rigging we've ever seen in this country. We are trying to have a major political party, the one in power, trying to destroy and defeat the other party, not by the ballot box, not with ideas, not with anything remotely resembling democracy, but by using lawfare to try to torture and ultimately jail and bankrupt not just President Trump, but all of his supporters as well, to try to cut out his grassroots to jail people like you people in this audience. And they did it in many cases, and we're just blowing through it. There's been no justice, there's been no accountability. We need to start the investigations. Head needs to roll and we can never let these people in power again.
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Andrew Colvett
Alex Marlowe, editor in chief of Breitbart host, the Alex Marlowe show, and author of the new book Breaking the Law. Congratulations comes out on Tuesday. Everybody pre order your copy now. Let's destroy the New York Times list and make them cry. Tears of sadness and all the things. So, Alex, you started our conversation off by saying that you think that the Russia hoax was the, the probably the second greatest hoax in modern American political history. You think what Joe Biden and the coordination from the top to bring down President Trump after between 2020 and 2024 was actually more egregious and more destructive. Explain.
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Alex Marlowe
Yeah, it's a. I could see both sides. The Russia hoax was obviously a huge deal because Trump was duly elected and they tried to nullify the election by using the Russia hoax conspiracy to try to tie him up and to waste his time. But ultimately, Trump was able to govern. He was able to get his footing and to have a full administration. But the whole point of the law fair was to make it so that he couldn't be president at all, to make it so that he's bankrupted and to make it so that he has no movement behind him because it would be too expensive and potentially illegal just to be a part of his inner circle. I think of all the people who went to jail for political purposes, from Steve Bannon to, to Peter Navarro to Michael Flynn, all these people who were jailed specifically because they were Trump associates, all of the J6 prisoners, the overcharging of all of them, one after the next. It's all part of this lawfare superstructure that is designed not to bring law and order to this country. Democrats hate law and order. Andrew, I'm from California. They don't even want immigration laws. They don't even want people to sign the guest book when they come in. They're completely comfortable with not prosecuting people unless you commit a felony, and even then, maybe not unless it's a violent felony. And even then they wanna get you back on the street as much as possible. The left hates law and order. They were using the legal system in order to try to rig an election. That's what they were trying to do. And they nearly succeeded. It was only because of the strength of this movement that they survived, that we survived. And it's only because of the incredible nature of Donald Trump himself. But we cannot take this for granted. The superstructure is in place, and they will try to rig the next election and the next one and the next one, unless we stop them. It starts with full accountability, investigations. Heads need to roll. But then we need to get to work, to getting ready to make sure that our margins are even greater next election so that they can never get any more power.
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Andrew Colvett
Yeah, you know, it. It's something that we say so often, Alex, that it almost feels like a cliche at this point, that, you know, Trump was the only one that could have survived this. And, you know, it's hard when you see it from this vantage point. I mean, we spent the first half hour of this show examining what we just learned from the Durham annex, that this was concocted by Hillary Clinton, laundered the Steele dossier into the intelligence community, into the US press launches. I mean, it robbed so much, so much of his first term, and yet he kept going, as you said, he managed to get through it and govern. But you could argue they stole 20, 20. You could argue they stole how much of his own money, time, treasure, with in the. You know, they tried to throw him into jail for 700 years in federal prison. It's hard not to think about this.
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Alex Marlowe
Yeah.
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Andrew Colvett
In sort of providential terms and sort of. I mean, and I do.
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Alex Marlowe
I think that became clear in Butler, Pennsylvania, last year, which is that clearly there was divine intervention and God is looking out for President Trump and looking out for this country. I think that's without question at this point. Anyone who doubts is a fool in my mind. But that doesn't mean that we can rest on our laurels. We still need to hold the people accountable who tried to bring all of these injustices.
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Andrew Colvett
Alex, this is a key point because sometimes I'll hear, and I'm in group chats like, we're just looking backwards. We need to govern. We need to govern. I mean, yeah, we can, you know, walk and chew gum at the same time. Here we can hold these people accountable because if we don't, they're going to do it again. Alex, I think you are absolutely spot on that the Democrat establishment in D.C. became so used to acting with impunity that they believe that they could run roughshod over the Constitution, over the rule of law, and they could do it and get away with it because they basically did had the strength of this movement, the strength of alternative media podcasts like the Charlie Kirk show and others. Your show, Alex Breitbart. We would not have survived this. Thank God we had Donald Trump that was willing to carry that burden and to push through for whatever reason. But thank God for it. But we have to have accountability and we have to govern at the same time. Alex, final thoughts.
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Alex Marlowe
Yeah. For people in this audience, your move is to stay involved. Stay. I always think of Steve when we have these conversations. But stay in a wartime footing. It's a We have to be fired up to win every single time, every single election and make sure the best people win our primaries. But we all seem to put heavy pressure on legislators, law enforcement, to be able to investigate these people and serve justice. Justice has not been done for Donald Trump and for his supporters who've been jailed and harassed and been deprived of what they earned with our allegedly democratic elections.
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Andrew Colvett
Well said. Alex Marlowe, author of Breaking the Law. Get it comes out on Tuesday. Thank you, Alex, so much.
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Alex Marlowe
Andrew, thank you.
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Andrew Colvett
Thanks so much for listening, everybody. I hope you enjoyed that show. Talk to you soon.
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Alex Marlowe
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