Exposing Mark Milley's Treason & The Fat General-Industrial-Complex

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The Charlie Kirk Show – Episode Overview

Episode Title: Exposing Mark Milley's Treason & The Fat General-Industrial-Complex
Date: September 14, 2021
Host: Charlie Kirk
Guest: Alex Marlowe (Breitbart.com, Author of Breaking the News)

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Episode Theme

This episode dives into several pressing political and cultural issues: the California recall election, the influence of establishment elites and Silicon Valley on public discourse, the unified strategy of the Democratic party, the psychological impact of social media on teens, and breaking news about General Mark Milley’s alleged actions following the 2020 election. Throughout, Charlie Kirk and Alex Marlowe advance a strongly conservative, anti-establishment perspective, expressing concern over power consolidation among political, media, and military elites.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. California Recall & Larry Elder’s Influence (02:40–08:19)

• Larry Elder’s Impact:
  Alex and Charlie discuss Larry Elder’s influence on the conservative movement.
  • "He is the proverbial guy who was born on third base and was told that he hit a triple." – Larry Elder quote via Alex Marlowe [08:06]
  • Both note the legacy of conservative figures ("the Nick Saban coaching tree") and how Elder, despite immense influence, receives little credit [04:24].
• Gavin Newsom’s Privileged Background:
  Newsom described as a lifelong plutocrat, benefiting from elite connections (Getty Oil, billionaire family ties).
• Joe Biden Campaigns for Newsom:
  Heavy ad buy and Biden’s personal involvement indicate Democrats’ nervousness about the recall.
  • "Why would Joe Biden be traveling out there? ... They're nervous, everybody." – Charlie Kirk [06:43]

2. Democratic Party Unification: Trump as the Boogeyman & Abortion Rights (08:19–11:57)

• Attack Strategy:
  Biden's campaign message frames recall as "Trump vs. Newsom," though Elder is more libertarian than Trump.
  • "Whoever is on the Republican ticket...they're just gonna do this thing: This is Donald Trump. Because the Left has nothing positive to offer at this point." – Alex Marlowe [09:33]
• Abortion as a Rallying Cry:
  Democrats are unified around "Trump opposition and executing children in the womb" (Alex’s phrase), referencing Texas' heartbeat law and party’s unwavering pro-abortion stance.
  • "The Democrats' whole position, it means nothing. This literally means zero." – Alex Marlowe [11:39]

3. Big Tech, Elites, and Censorship (13:00–16:35)

• Facebook's Secret 'XCheck' Program:
  Documents reveal celebrities and some politicians exempt from Facebook's rules.
  • "Facebook picks and chooses who their most stringent censorship rules apply to." – Alex Marlowe [14:20]
  • The "elite get special privileges... outsiders who challenge the elite...get the same rules as the rest of us." [15:39]
• Instagram Harms Teen Mental Health:
  Citing the platform's negative impact, especially on teen girls' self-esteem.
  • "Instagram is a tool of the corporations to enforce an orthodoxy ... that most people cannot achieve." – Alex Marlowe [16:35]
• Recommendation for Parents:
  Charlie strongly advises parents to ban smartphones and social media for children under 18 [16:01].

4. The 'F Joe Biden' Chants & Grassroots Discontent (21:35–24:44)

• Rise of Vulgar Protest Chants:
  The podcast addresses the phenomenon at sporting events; initially dismissed, it’s reinterpreted as a sign of deep populist frustration.
  • "People are this passionate about how bad this guy is." – Alex Marlowe [22:01]
• Tucker Carlson’s Analysis (Clip):
  "[Americans know] the greatest crisis ... is the disintegration of America itself." [24:03]
  Discussants agree that establishment narratives (about COVID, ‘white supremacy’, threats abroad) ring hollow to many Americans.

5. Loss of Freedom and Social Division (24:44–32:02)

• Mandate Backlash:
  Americans' frustration with mask and vaccine mandates, double standards (elites exempting themselves), and erosion of liberty.
  • "The one bigger threat ... than the pandemic right now... is the loss of freedom." – Alex Marlowe [26:24]
• Social, Racial, and Educational Segregation:
  Reports of public schools segregating by race or vaccination status, lowering standards for minorities.
  • "That's not the country we grew up in." – Charlie Kirk [28:59]
  • "We totally rejected [MLK’s] approach that we should have a colorblind society. Now we're being told specifically that you have to see color everywhere." – Alex Marlowe [29:38]
• Political Realignment:
  Biden’s doubling-down on progressive policy, not triangulating to moderation.
  • "He's further left than Obama." – Alex Marlowe [30:58]

6. Mark Milley, the Military Establishment, and Treason Allegations (32:02–37:53)

• Allegations Against Gen. Milley:
  Bob Woodward reports Milley held secret meetings to withhold Trump’s military command after January 6 [33:27].
  • "We're supposed to have a civilian military..." – Alex Marlowe [33:27]
• Elitism and Lack of Accountability:
  Jokes about Milley’s "white rage" and physical fitness morph into concerns about unelected, unaccountable bureaucratic power.
  • "Have you ever heard of a Milley rally? No, because no one actually showed up in massive numbers to go vote for Mark Milley." – Charlie Kirk [37:19]
  • "Milley is a member of an unelected, largely unknown, unaccountable fourth branch of government." – Charlie Kirk [37:37]
• China Connection:
  Discussion of Milley’s calls to Chinese military and broader critique of U.S. media and Big Tech’s deep business ties to China.
  • "When you connect the dots, all of these huge companies ... they're all connected to China." – Alex Marlowe [36:28]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Larry Elder and the Conservative ‘Coaching Tree’:

• "It's kind of like the Nick Saban coaching tree...Andrew Breitbart and you kind of see everyone that came from that." – Charlie Kirk [03:47]

On the Threat of Big Tech:

• "Collectively Facebook and Google are more powerful than...any government other than maybe the United States and maybe China at this time." – Alex Marlowe [13:50]

On the Party’s Use of Trump as Scare Tactic:

• "This is the talking point. This is the preview of 2022 and 2024...because the left has nothing positive to offer at this point." – Alex Marlowe [09:33]

On Abortion and the Democratic Party:

• "That they have to execute children in the womb like that. This is where they’re committed to." – Alex Marlowe [11:07]

On School Segregation and ‘Equity’:

• "We totally rejected [MLK’s] approach that we should have a colorblind society. Now we're being told specifically that you have to see color everywhere." – Alex Marlowe [29:38]

On Loss of Freedom:

• "There is one bigger threat for sure than the pandemic right now, and that is the loss of freedom." – Alex Marlowe [26:24]

On Mark Milley’s Actions:

• "We're supposed to have a civilian military and instead we have these generals who are drunk in their own power." – Alex Marlowe [33:27]
• "No one went and canvassed for Mark Milley. No one says Milley 2020 or 2024." – Charlie Kirk [37:19]

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Important Timestamps

• 02:40–04:24: Conservative legacy and Larry Elder’s impact
• 06:21–08:09: Biden’s California campaign and Newsom’s elite background
• 09:47–10:26: The left’s anti-Trump strategy
• 13:00–16:35: Facebook’s secret rules for elites, Instagram’s impact on teen girls
• 21:35–24:44: ‘F Joe Biden’ chants and analysis
• 25:23–26:24: Vaccine mandates and the erosion of public trust
• 27:18–30:11: School segregation examples and critique of current civil rights climate
• 32:02–33:27: Breaking down Mark Milley’s alleged insubordination
• 36:28–37:53: China’s influence and the unaccountable ‘4th branch’ of government

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Final Thoughts

In this high-energy episode, Charlie Kirk and Alex Marlowe traverse major cultural and political battlegrounds, connecting the dots between elite privilege in politics, big tech, social division in education, and concerns about a rogue military establishment. The conversation is marked by a deep skepticism of establishment motives, concern over loss of freedom and tradition, and an advocacy for grassroots action against what they see as overreaches. The tone remains unapologetically combative and irreverent, with humor and sharp critiques of political and media elites, punctuated by repeated calls for renewed vigilance and activism from the conservative base.

Transcript

[Charlie Kirk]

Hey, everybody. Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, I'm joined with Alex Marlowe from Breitbart.com that's Breitbart.com, he's also the author of Breaking the News. We talk about a variety of different things. We talk about the new bombshell Facebook report. We talk about the California recall and what's kind of going on in California. And Joe Biden campaigning for Gavin Newsom. And we also talk about Mark Milley and some breaking news about the true insurrection that happened, the insurrection of generals, the that tried to undermine Donald Trump. You can email us your thoughts. Freedomarliekirk.com make sure you are subscribed to the Charlie Kirk show by typing in Charlie Kirk show to your podcast provider. And if you want to get involved with Turning Point USA, go to tpusa.com, that's tpusa.com, where we play offense with a sense of urgency to win the American culture war. Tpusa.com that's tpusa.com if you want to support our program, it's easy. Charliekirk.com support charliekirk.com you guys can join many people. I want to thank Mario from Ohio for generously supporting [e-mail] support I want to thank Misty from Ocala, Florida, for your monthly support. Laren from Alabama, thank you so much. And Johnny from Maryland, Your monthly support means the world. Charliekirk.com support and finally, Phil from California, Phenomenal. It helps us hire more staff, helps us grow and expand. Charliekirk.com support Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

[Alex Marlowe]

Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

[Producer Andrew]

I want you to know we are

[Alex Marlowe]

lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

[Charlie Kirk]

Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

[Alex Marlowe]

I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point usa.

[Charlie Kirk]

We will not embrace the idea that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Hey, everybody. This episode is brought to you by my [e-mail] Charlie Secure your device, anonymize your online activity. Protect your action online. Expressvpn.com Charlie help our show out by also helping yourself. Protect yourself. ExpressVPN.com Charlie hey, everybody. Charlie Kirk, welcome back. We are here joined By Alex Marlowe Breitbart.com, that is Breitbart.com. alex, welcome.

[Alex Marlowe]

Charlie. It's great to be back on the broadcast with you live and in person.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes. And you'll be co piloting for the entire hour. And then we're also doing TPUSA live. And then I think you may or may not join us for the California livestream.

[Alex Marlowe]

I'll join. As a native Californian, I think it's my obligation. Of course, if you're thinking it's a big day for us. I have to say that I'm reluctant to get my hopes too high having Larry Elder been my former boss, and I'm a huge fan of his.

[Charlie Kirk]

Where was he your former boss?

[Alex Marlowe]

I was an intern for him. I think that was the key for Andrew Breitbart hiring me, is that I interned for Larry. Yeah. When we were in la. He was my first talk radio love. And I know he's your colleague now, which is very cool. Read all his books. And I actually had one in my backpack. The 10 things you can't say in America. I used to walk around. I was that kid with the political book in my backpack walking around high school, and it worked. His arguments were just so unbelievable, and he's, I think, as sharp as he's ever been. So it is just so tempting to let your mind wander where things could go, not just for California, but for the whole conservative movement across the country if something special happens today.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. It's kind of like the Nick Saban coaching tree, where you look at kind of Andrew Breitbart and you kind of see everyone that came from that. Yes, it's very similar.

[Producer Andrew]

And.

[Alex Marlowe]

And then if you look at Larry, and Larry comes from Prager, and now Larry inspired me, who could. Got connected to Andrew. Larry inspired Candace Owens, who's connected to you and all of your stuff. It's just unbelievable.

[Charlie Kirk]

And Dave Rubin.

[Alex Marlowe]

Dave Rubin.

[Charlie Kirk]

Dave Rubin was. He says that his interview with Larry Elder was the interview that changed his life.

[Alex Marlowe]

It changed a lot of people's lives. And this is the thing that's so magical about Larry is that he's really influenced millions of people. Millions of people.

[Charlie Kirk]

And I think that if you look at someone who gets the least credit for the most. A lot of people get too much credit in this world.

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

He gets the least amount of credit. He really does. You know what I mean?

[Alex Marlowe]

And what's amazing is it'll probably take a few days to count the vote all of a sudden. Yeah, it could be a few weeks. But all of a sudden he could all of A sudden be getting some of the most credit, which would be amazing if he got to be the governor of the biggest state. And not to mention potential presidential candidate. Who knows? Like, the mind wanders. It just goes great.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's right. It could go well. Joe Biden visited California yesterday. Now, you live in California now, theoretically, which I'm actually thrilled about, because you're closer by, and anyone who gets out of D.C. i think, becomes a happier and a better person. Have you noticed this?

[Alex Marlowe]

You know, I've certainly noticed it. And it was interesting, as I was in D.C. for about eight years, to see people go from D.C. being this very pleasant place when it was controlled by the Uni Party establishment, where everyone sort of knew they were all really on the same team and they would play fight, they would spar in the public, but they were all going the same cocktail parties and they were enjoying the vast amounts of wealth that people really didn't key in on. Until people like Breitbart and Peter Schweitzer started pointing out, like, why is there such a huge concentration of wealth in this area? And then you start connecting it with everyone ultimately is bestie friends, even if they theoretically are on both sides of the political aisle. Once Trump won, once Trump actually proved the MAGA movement is not a joke, it's a dead serious thing, things start to get nastier and uglier and meaner and less fun. And then once the pandemic hit, the whole town was broken. Completely broken. And it's still broken because it's all black lives matter and lockdowns now.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's right. So Joe Biden, in your now home state of California, we're gonna play some tape here. Cut 35. I'm gonna make this as simple as I can. Either keep Gavin Newsom as your governor, or you get Donald Trump. It's not a joke. Now, for any of you that don't think this is gonna be close in California, why would Joe Biden be traveling out there? And why would they be? I mean, I don't know how much television you watch, Alex, or sports. How many times have you seen the Obama ad on television in California?

[Alex Marlowe]

It's unbelievable because ubiquitous. I watch almost no TV other than a little bit of streaming at the end of the night and some nights. And I still have seen that ad 50 times. I don't even know how I was in front of a screen that much.

[Charlie Kirk]

I was in California for two days watching college football. It was just kind of in between events.

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

And I probably saw it 25 times.

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah, it's unbelievable.

[Charlie Kirk]

And so they're nervous, everybody. And we're gonna get into the final prediction from Alex shortly because I know all eyes are on California today. And you guys can count on us tonight for your live election coverage. Going county by county, region by region, we've really kind of broke California into five big parts. Central Valley, Bay Area, Los Angeles, San Diego, and then just kind of the general rules that fill in between. I think that's probably the most fair way to do it. But Joe Biden made a special trip all the way across the country to go bail out the darling Gavin Newsom, who is supposed to be president one day, possibly. Now, he is the nephew of Nancy Pelosi, right?

[Alex Marlowe]

I think that's right. I mean, I know that the main thing for me with him is that he was the son of the general counsel for Getty Oil. So he comes from unbelievable amounts.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's so interesting.

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

He also is married to Siebel's daughter, who's a billionaire.

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah. He's a lifelong plutocrat and he's been on this track for a very long time. He was a well established politician when I went to Berkeley 15, I guess, almost 20 years ago.

[Charlie Kirk]

And then he became mayor of San Francisco.

[Alex Marlowe]

And then he became mayor of San Francisco. But he was on the track to go all the way to the White House to ride his white privilege. Charlie, we talk about white privilege all the time. This is the guy Larry Elder said on my show on Sirius xm. He said he's the proverbial guy who was born on third base and was told that he hit a triple.

[Charlie Kirk]

That is his triple.

[Alex Marlowe]

That's Newsom in a nutshell. And I just can't get over that plastic helmet of hair that he staples on the top of his head. It just from a bygone era. It's like he's stuck in the 90s

[Charlie Kirk]

and it's Jet black. Unbelievable. All right. Joe Biden yelling to the sky. Play tape.

[Joe Biden]

Go on. But here's the deal. I'm going to make this as simple as I can. You either keep Gavin Newsom as your governor or you'll get Donald Trump. It's not a joke.

[Charlie Kirk]

I think the real question is, does Joe Biden have Covid?

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah.

[Joe Biden]

Yeah.

[Alex Marlowe]

Honestly, is he getting tested right now? Where's his mask? I don't see a mask in that. In this. People on the radio don't have the benefit quarantined immediately. I mean, who knows how far that spittle flies out of Joe's. Joe's Increasingly deprived body. Yeah, but here's the deal. Come on, man. You know. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? Larry Elder is a Larry Elder Republican. He is not a Donald Trump Republican. And he's been very critical of Trump. He's been critical to Trump publicly, He's been critical of Trump privately. I think he by and large likes Trump a lot and would do the best parts of Trump's agenda. But he's a libertarian and he's a lifelong libertarian, and he's got his own unique sense of the world. And it just shows you how. This is the talking point. This is the preview of 2022 and 2024. Whoever is on the Republican ticket, wherever Republican is running, they're just gonna do this thing. This is Donald Trump. Because the left has nothing positive to offer at this point. All they can do is hope the triggering that the word Trump causes will somehow animate their voters.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and the one thing that Larry offers better than anybody else, and if you don't understand this, you just don't understand politics, is. He is the most effective anti leftist.

[Alex Marlowe]

Yes.

[Charlie Kirk]

That I have ever seen.

[Alex Marlowe]

Right.

[Charlie Kirk]

Deconstructing the left's lies, being able to hold them accountable to their own ridiculous standards, pointing out their hypocrisy. He is by definition an offensive weapon.

[Alex Marlowe]

Sure.

[Charlie Kirk]

And in California, it's just delicious to see. Okay, next tape here. If you don't think women's rights are under assault, you're not looking A law that the Supreme Court refused to stop. Cut 36. Joe Biden continues campaigning for Gavin Newsom play cut 36.

[Joe Biden]

If you have any doubt about how important it is to have Gavin, who respects women's right, to just take a look at what's happening in states like Texas. They just passed a law empowering complete strangers to become bounty hunters. Going after women who exercise their right to choose a law that the United States Supreme Court refused to stop. Now, other states say they're looking to replicate the Texas law. If you don't think women's rights are under assault, you're not looking.

[Charlie Kirk]

Alex.

[Alex Marlowe]

This is amazing that this party is so unified around two things that Trump is still the bad orange man, even though everything that they said about him basically was a lie. And that they have to execute children in the womb like that. This is where they're committed to. This is their unifying thing, is still when you detect a heartbeat. And, Charlie, I hope you're this lucky one day, but I have young kids. And when you hear your child's heartbeat, for the first time. The last time I heard it, for the first time for my children is I started weeping spontaneously. It's the most beautiful moment of your life. It is one of the top moments of your life. And the Democrats whole position, it means nothing. It means nothing. This literally means zero.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's a clump of cells.

[Alex Marlowe]

It is the same as snot in your nose. That is the amount of rights and value that it has to your average Democrat. And it's not that some of them feel this way in private. This is their unifying issue. So by all means, Joe, talk about you want.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah. Oh yeah. You'd be very careful about that.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's a very important distinction. You are a publisher.

[Alex Marlowe]

Yes.

[Charlie Kirk]

Speaking of a platform that calls themselves a publisher. Is that the right way to say it?

[Alex Marlowe]

I think they are a publisher calls himself a platform because the rules are more last for the platform. This is how they can be this. Yeah. So. So they publish. They pick and choose.

[Charlie Kirk]

But they say they're a platform.

[Alex Marlowe]

Exactly.

[Charlie Kirk]

So they could be protected by the section230.

[Alex Marlowe]

Exactly.

[Charlie Kirk]

Facebook documents reveal secret elite exempt from its rules X check program gives celebrities, politicians special treatment which some abuse. Now before I dive into this, when I read this, Alex, I felt like I was getting declassified CIA files. Yeah. Because that's how powerful Facebook is.

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah, that's right. And I think that people who are in denial of the fact that collectively Facebook and Google are more powerful than. And you want to throw in Amazon. They are more powerful than any government other than maybe the United States and maybe China at this time. Worst case scenario, they're collectively like the third most powerful entity on the planet. And we kind of treat them like they're. Hey, they're just corporation. We could build our own. Right, Charlie? Like, why don't you.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, why don't we go build parlor?

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah. Oh, wait a minute. Because Amazon shuts it down.

[Charlie Kirk]

So Apple and Google.

[Alex Marlowe]

But this confirms stuff that we probably suspected, but that we did not have confirmed until now, which is that Facebook picks and chooses who their most stringent censorship rules apply to. And they boost and deboost content based off of a list of people, a white list that they select. And who's on the list. It's the celebrities, it's stars. And what they do in this leak, which I don't know who, I don't remember who broke the story exactly, if it was the Wall Street Journal. But they selectively. They'll pick someone like a Don Jr and put out. The Don Jr is on this list. But you can bet if we got ahold of the whole list, he gets

[Charlie Kirk]

fact checked all the time. That's an intentional leak, though, to try to make it seem bipartisan.

[Alex Marlowe]

We know this is about the establishment, the establishment gaining power. The establishment is able to ensure that they have extra power. Facebook built huge offices in the middle of D.C. why are they doing that? Why is Amazon building a huge campus just outside D.C. why is Google one of the top lobbyists on planet Earth? Because they know that they work the establishment. They will have carve outs for themselves. They know that if they work the establishment, they will not have. They will not get cracked down upon by the ruling class. And that goes for both political parties. And this is exactly what this confirms, that the elite get special privileges. And specifically, Charlie, outsiders who challenge the elite, they're not on these lists. They're not on these white lists. They get the same rules as the rest of us.

[Charlie Kirk]

I don't think Breitbart is on that list.

[Alex Marlowe]

If anything, we're probably on another list. I mean, we get nickel and dime constantly on Facebook, even though we thrive on the platform because we have the most engaged readership on the planet. But it is something. They're constantly trying to slow us down. And they made changes to their algorithm just over the last couple of weeks. They're designed specifically, in our opinion, to target Breitbart and our increased Reach.

[Charlie Kirk]

I have been called a radical for this, so I will definitely repeat it. Parents should not allow their children to have a smartphone until they're 18, period. No smartphone, no apps, no social media. And in relation to this story, it has come out today. Sure. Instagram Instagram acknowledges app can harm teens self esteem in response to report more than 30% of teenage girls who felt bad about their bodies said Instagram made it worse. Of course, this is not exactly kind of a contrarian sort of revelation here.

[Alex Marlowe]

Another one that confirms everything that we knew, which is that Instagram is a tool of the corporations to enforce a orthodoxy. And that orthodoxy is a certain view of lifestyle that most people cannot achieve, cannot attain. And they just sit there looking at other people with their Photoshop. That's right, corporate funded selfies. And they feel worse about their lives. And of course this affects teen girls trying to establish their identity more than any other group. This all should be very logical to anyone who has any basic sense of the way social systems work. And it's just great to hear that people are finally starting to talk about it because of course it's toxic. But here's the other thing, Charlie, is that Instagram is filled with stupid content. There's so much stupid time wasting stuff.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes, of course.

[Alex Marlowe]

How many books could have been read or written? How many companies could have been sold?

[Charlie Kirk]

Or at least just experiences shared with your friends, friends and family?

[Alex Marlowe]

Which matters the Most?

[Charlie Kirk]

Real life TikTok is even worse. And so I just want to say this again. If you are a parent or grandparent, there is zero reason whatsoever that your child, your daughter, your son should have a smartphone. Go buy them the jitterbug if you need to stay in touch with them. I grew up in an America without smartphones and it was an amazing experience to not be part of the matrix. Did you get hit with a big tax bill you weren't expecting? With rates being very low and home equity being high? Perfect time to refinance. Look, we're all about refinancing all this. Here's the long and short of it. You should not be giving business to bad companies. So if you're using Goldman Sachs, bad company, Wells Fargo, bad company, JP Morgan, bad company, all these companies, they love blm, they hate America. And quite honestly, if you're listening to this program, they hate you. And so if you want to take out a loan, here's what I'm going to tell you what to do. Maybe you're a new family, you're like, I want to buy a house. And it's my dream house and I want to take out a loan. The good news is that there are partners called Andrew and Todd. Andrew Del Rey and Todd Avakian. Andrewandtod.com Just save that in your notes, by the way. Just save it in the notes of your phone because you might need it. Like, I don't need it. My banker at Goldman Sachs is just fine. Or my banker at bank of America is just fine. Like, okay, then when you go take that loan and you go sign those 95,000 pieces of paper they give you, you know what you're really signing? You're signing contribution forms to BLM Incorporated. That's what you're doing. When you go take out a loan with Chase, when you go take out a loan with Wells Fargo, you might as well go give the money to Joe Biden. So when you go to D.C. next and you go travel, maybe with your family, why don't you just get a cashier's check and drop it off at the White House entrance? That's what you're doing when you bank with these woke losers at Wells Fargo. So take out a loan with the good guys. It's Andrew and Todd. Look, they're just great people. They're Christians. They love the Lord. They love America. And you call them up and just say, I want to speak to Andrew and Todd. That's all you have to say? Charlie Kirk sent me. And their number is 888-888-1172. That's andrewandtod.com, andrewandtod.com 8888 1172. You go to andrewandtod.com/888 1172 and say, you should make a vow to yourself. Just make a promise to yourself. I refuse to fund companies that hate America. I refuse to fund companies I hate America. And you have a choice if you want to take out a loan or just explore the idea of refinancing. Andrewandtod.com call 888-1172. I go out to eat with these guys. They're terrific. They're good people. Andrewandtodd.com People ask all the time, Charlie, where do you get your news from? Well, I get it from a variety of different places. Alex Marlow show I listen to. If I'm ever up very, very early, I'm listening. When I do my early Fox News hits to and from. I'm listening to Sirius XM125, which I encourage all of you to listen to. And also I listen to Tucker Carlson and I just kind of felt like we had this really confusing week. When Tucker was in Alaska last week, it was like everything was happening down. I was. I was texting with Tucker. I said, you do realize that the country has changed dramatically in just a week. And he said, he's like, yeah, I'm just reviewing the news. And then like two hours later, he texted me back, like, my goodness, the country's changed dramatic. We take that for granted when you're kind of in it. But within a week, we had the OSHA requirements put down, the vaccine mandates. Just feels like everything's happening so quickly. I think Tucker and cut 39, though, had one of the best kind of analysis, you could say, of the F. Joe Biden chance. So if you don't know this, this is happening all across the country at sporting games, at big events, and I've intentionally not covered this story. First of all, it's a swear word, and I know a lot of our listeners don't like that and for good reason. And we don't swear in this show. But I also didn't show it because it just kind of seemed a little juvenile at first. And quite honestly, I kind of missed the broader point, to be perfectly honest. I just thought, oh, yeah, it's just a bunch of kids and just people that are pent up. Alex, did you cover this at all on your show?

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah, I haven't covered it on my show, partially because the same as you, it just means I gotta make my producers bleep out a lot of F bombs.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, exactly. Interesting.

[Alex Marlowe]

Because I want your analysis of this, Charlie, because I'll tell you where I'm at. I was always of the mindset that we should be winning with arguments and we can be cool without having to be vulgar. And even though in my personal life, I'm not above an occasional F bomb, if it's time perfectly for a joke. But I try not to communicate that way. But it is one of these things where I was a little bit heartened to see that people are this passionate about how bad this guy is. And this is an evolution with me. I'm not saying I'm proud of it. I'm just saying that's the truth, is that when I heard these things, when I'm seeing genuine grassroots roots enthusiasm to understand that the biggest threat right now, and this is what Tucker talked about. I don't know if you're actually gonna play the clip.

[Charlie Kirk]

We're gonna play it next.

[Alex Marlowe]

But what Tucker says is that the real threat is that we're eating ourselves alive that so many Americans get it and are disenfranchised and their voice isn't heard in the media. They're getting slowed down or censored on social media. I think that people are gonna have to figure out a way to get the word out. And if this is it, so be it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Again, I don't love the vulgarity. We don't swear on our team. I've been around other radio shows where it's just every other word.

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah, I don't dig that.

[Charlie Kirk]

I just also think it's lazy, and I don't. It's very lazy. I also think it makes you less likely to expand your vocabulary and to be diversified in how you view things. I just. I don't like being around people that swear a lot either. I actually find that when you swear a lot, you're kind of cutting corners in other parts of your life. That's not a. That's not a rule for life. But that's a generality, I just wanna say. And that generality has proven to be true for me. But anyway, Tucker, I think had the best response to this and sort of made me think differently about this, where he says, look, the f Joe Biden chants, it's because they're mad. And that it's not that they're mad about COVID or racism or ISIS K. It's that America's actually disintegrating in front of us and they want to challenge the regime in the most vulgar way. And so if they were just kind of chanting like, Joe Biden's terrible Joe Biden's terrible, people would be laughing. But no, they go to what is the worst word in the English language? And they say it rather generously.

[Alex Marlowe]

Second worst word. I don't want you to get canceled, Charlie.

[Charlie Kirk]

There is a worse one. Worst word that we will not use.

[Alex Marlowe]

Absolutely not.

[Charlie Kirk]

And if you want to know what word that is, George Carlin had a great routine on that that we will not play here. Okay, cut 30.

[Producer Andrew]

Joe Biden's not on the field. So why are the fans swearing at Joe Biden? Because they're mad. What are they mad about? Maybe they know they're being played. Maybe they know perfectly well that no matter what Joe Biden and his minions say in public, Covid, bad as it is, isn't even close to the greatest crisis this country actually faces right now. Another is white supremacy, by the way, or the mullahs in Iran or ISIS K Or whatever bloated threat the industrial lime machine is manufactured. This week for you to fear. Most people understand it's all crap. And they know it's crap because they live here. And they know the greatest crisis that America actually faces is the disintegration of America itself.

[Charlie Kirk]

The disintegration of America itself.

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah, he's right on this. And the perfect context that Charlie, something you and I talked about on your live stream, which I'll be on again today for Turning Point. And that's me plugging your stuff, by the way.

[Charlie Kirk]

Thank you.

[Alex Marlowe]

That's how you radio right there. But the. We. We talked about this in the context of the way the mandates are being sold to us and the way the vaccines are being sold to us. They're being sold to us by the exact same people who told us to mask up. Even the masks don't work. That Trump was a Russian agent, that we're not supposed to care, that Dr. Fauci himself funded the Wuhan Lab, which had the research that might have led not just to coronaviruses, but to this specific pandemic.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's right.

[Alex Marlowe]

And all of those people who have sold us all that stuff over the years, that kids need to be masked up, but not AOC at the Met Gala, then they're the ones selling us the vaccines. The people who aren't selling us the vaccines aren't reasonable people who actually communicate to Trump's America and can say, hey, look, the numbers are the people are getting them seem to be getting a little less sick, and we wanna encourage you to get it for your own health. Those aren't the people who are selling it. We're getting bullied by the same liars who've lied about everything else. That's right. And it made me think, maybe they don't actually want us to be safe. Maybe they don't actually want the Trump supporters to get it after all. Maybe they want us all confused and locked down and demonized and inconvenienced in our personal lives. And this is why I've been saying the whole pandemic, which I've always taken seriously. Breitbart had our first report in the pandemic in the Jan. 8, 2020, of a mystery pneumonia coming from China, which we were concerned about. There is one bigger threat for sure than the pandemic right now, and that is the loss of freedom. The loss of freedom is a much bigger issue to most Americans than this pandemic. And Tucker nails it right there.

[Charlie Kirk]

And it's also just this idea that something you love is crumbling in front of you.

[Alex Marlowe]

Sure.

[Charlie Kirk]

And so if you just kind of ask what the normal man, someone earning $65,000 a year with two kids and works in the trades or the police officer, whatever, they just have this feeling and they can't always articulate every piece of evidence. But. But they're totally correct in that, hey, look, in the last three years, I have lost my country in a way I don't even recognize. We're taking down statues of Robert E. Lee. We're dividing students based on skin color, which I do want to get into this for a second. I would just love your thoughts on this, Alex. I had my team put together at Turning Point USA because we have the school board watch list that we just launched. Schoolboardwatchlist.org I said, hey, can you just go through and find a couple examples of schools that are in blatant violation of the Civil Rights Act? Yeah, that was just an interesting thing.

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah, I love that.

[Charlie Kirk]

And so when you have kind of the normal man, the police officer, the welder, the plumber, the firefighter, and they see stuff like this, they say, that's not the country I grew up in. For example, in the Atlanta Public Schools, Mary Lynn Elementary School, they allegedly separate white children from black children and creating separate classrooms for black students. The school has six classes for white students and two classes for black students. Principal Sharon Briscoe, who's also black, informed Posey, the mother, that students were being separated by race to give them more opportunities. I'll give you another example, Sam Ramon Valley in San Ramon, California and that was the black principal who did that the previous one, by the way. They separated students based on vaccine vaccination status. After it was determined that students had been exposed to a COVID positive teacher, the school office called all unvaccinated students to the office and said, you are the unwashed and you will be segregated. Unvaccinated children were sent home without warning. Parents while vaccinated children were able to remain in school. Indianapolis Schools Indianapolis, Indiana the district is separating staff members into affinity groups. The groups will be separated based on race, on sexual orientation, gender and religion. In Little Red School District, which is private Little Red House School in New York New York City they separated seventh and eighth graders based on race, trying to encourage self affirmation, exploration of self identity among children. The district has tabled its race based class placement but wants to continue its efforts in the future. Madison Metropolitan School District says that they divide separate students and parents by race, gender or religious affiliation to try to create equity. And finally, San Diego School District has implemented anti race Policy anti racist policies that grade standards must be lower for students because minority students are unable to be successful in the classroom without multiple attempts at homework and a correction period enabled to in order to perfect work. Alex, is that the country we grew up in?

[Alex Marlowe]

Of course it's not. But it was encroaching on us. It was approaching this. I remember when I was at UC Berkeley and I started, I guess, in January 2005, I had a dorm. My dorm was adjacent to the all black dorms, which technically weren't all black. There was, I think, one other person who was not black in it, which is a. I would love to interview that guy now. I would love to. Why he signed up for that. But they're perfectly lovely people. They were perfectly lovely to live next to. There was nothing wrong with it, but it was just this very strange thing that was just an outright rejection of the values of the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. It was the. We totally rejected his approach that we should have a colorblind society. Now we're being told specifically that you have to see color everywhere. And if you don't see color everywhere, then you're racist. And this leads us to a point where we're seeing the somewhat hilariously absurd Louisiana Times suggest that Larry Elder is a white supremacist.

[Charlie Kirk]

The black face of white supremacy.

[Alex Marlowe]

Right. I mean, this was literally a Chappelle show skit 15, 20 years ago, and then now it's here. And it just speaks to Tucker's point, which is that the country is falling apart in a lot of these ways and it's going to be on the F. Joe Biden chanters to bring us back. Unfortunately, that's where we're at.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And the one thing I just can't understand is usually when a. And Alex, I'd love your thoughts on this is usually when a president gets so unpopular and there's chance against them, they usually try to adjust or autocorrect. They don't double down and accelerate the downfall. Right?

[Alex Marlowe]

No. He has to shore up his base right now. That's why you're seeing another bigger push on these radical voter rights rules. He's gonna be trying to push a radical tax hike. Biden is going to retreat to his safe space, which is the left. He's a true leftist. He's further left than Obama.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's right.

[Alex Marlowe]

In my opinion. And I think that that's where he's comfortable. He's not really comfortable negotiating with Republicans at all. Maybe a couple of them. He can have an ice cream soft swirl with them at some point. But other than that I don't really see a lot of common ground at all. He hasn't reached out on one issue. Mr. Unity hasn't reached out a single issue.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well. And Biden views himself as the bridge president that ended the America of the great America, the strong America, the bridge president that truly was able to do what Woodrow Wilson never was. He is thinking to himself, how are college professors going to be describing me 30 years from now? I won't be alive. He wants to be known as the transformational bridge.

[Alex Marlowe]

Right on. And I grow deeply concerned that people in the Republican establishment who should know better, like President, President George H.W. bush or no, no, George W. Bush, who said was ragging on the 911 mostly peaceful protesters over the weekend during 9 11. I had the same thought that he's thinking about how he's gonna be remembered by journalists and historians, not thinking about what's actually good for this great country.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Alex Marlowe]

Alex yeah, this is amazing that this is just such third world stuff that we're supposed to have a civilian military and instead we have these generals who are drunk in their own power, who are Basically bureaucrats at this point and have failed in their main responsibility. We're supposed to be winning wars and keeping us safe, or at least have not done as well as they could have. Case in point, the 13Americans who just died for totally unnecessarily in Afghanistan. Service members. And we are still in the middle of a hostage crisis right now, which is important for people to remember because it does slip out of the front of our consciousness. But that he's there investigating mostly peaceful Americans who were mostly protesting what they believed to be an illegitimate election, exactly the same way as Democrats have always done it over the years. They've whined about elections my entire adult life. They'll continue to do so every time they lose. And it's the last I checked, Charlie, the people who died on January 6th were all Trump supporters. So it was a terrible event I was upset about at the time. I think it was a bad moment for maga. All those caveats aside, you need to have these clandestine investigations from the military class. But I wanna ask you about something that I think you kind of introduced. Is your theory that Mark Milley took out his white rage on some Hostess snowballs.

[Charlie Kirk]

I think that Mark Milley has some very, let's just say, unrecognized issues when it comes to his ability to control his own diet.

[Alex Marlowe]

What about some white rage on some Home Run Pies?

[Charlie Kirk]

Do you think he did that, too? And if they had In N out

[Alex Marlowe]

Burger in D.C. on the animal style fries.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's right.

[Alex Marlowe]

To get his wife, forget it.

[Charlie Kirk]

And anyone on the east coast doesn't know anything about In N Out Burger, which is a great company, by the way. Producer Andrew's a big In N Out fan. He's a big In N Out guy. And they have it in Arizona and they have it in California. I think they're in like six states now. And so, in a pair of secret phone calls, General Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, assured his Chinese counterpart, General Li Zhu Zhuang of the People's Liberation army, that the United States would not strike them. You see this? That General Milley was telling China, oh, no, don't worry, we're not gonna militarily strike you. One call took place on October 30, 2020, four days before the election that unseated President Trump. And the other on January 8, 2021, two days after the Capitol siege carried out by his supporters in a quest to cancel the vote. This is according to Washington Post. Right? That's the Washington Post. That wrote that. Yeah, Cancel the vote. So he first called in October before January 6, undermining President Trump. And by the way, breaking news today, as we have said it has now come out. I want to read this precisely because it's very important. It also confirms U.S. coast Guard has spotted four Chinese warships, including one of its most advanced destroyers, off Alaska within the United States exclusive economic zone late last month. The US Military has now revealed, and we have said for quite some time, China is going to try to take Taiwan before the end of the year. Joe Biden is obviously controlled by China. And you talk about this in your book.

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah, I do. This is one of the main things that I realize in the book is the connections of the American media to China are so deep and vast. And when you put the. When you connect the dots, all of these huge companies that control so much of our life, from NBC to Universal to Comcast to Disney, they're all. Bloomberg in particular, which is a monopoly on financial news. They're all connected to China and they want to make the propagandists in China look good and feel comfortable. And this is something that is obviously extending throughout the establishment. And you can bet Big Tech is next. They don't have to do a lot of business in China yet, other than Apple, of course, but they're going to do a lot more if they have their way. These are international companies now. They're not American companies. They don't have the spirit of our great republic at heart. When they're making their decisions, they've got their bottom line and international business in line. And this is the problem. We're losing our consciousness here, Charlie, about the country.

[Charlie Kirk]

And the real question is, who's in charge? The people should be in charge. The people, the sovereign, as articulated in the Constitution. That is a moral way to set up your government. Have you ever heard of a Milley rally? No, because no one actually showed up in massive numbers to go vote for Mark Milley.

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah, it's true.

[Charlie Kirk]

No one went and canvassed for Mark Milley. No One says Milley 2020 or 2024. The point, of course, is that Milley is a member of an unelected, largely unknown, unaccountable fourth branch of government who's able to take power from the sovereign and do what he wants.

[Alex Marlowe]

And he's gonna delegitimize the election. It looks like he's meeting in October. If Trump had won, they were gonna

[Charlie Kirk]

delegitimize it anyway right before the election. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us your thoughts. Freedomcharliekirk.com and if you want to support our program, you can do [e-mail] support thanks. Thanks so much for listening everybody. God Bless.

[Alex Marlowe]

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