Fighting Critical Race Theory on the Frontlines—What YOU Can Do, with Isabel Brown

Summary

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The Charlie Kirk Show

Episode: "Fighting Critical Race Theory on the Frontlines—What YOU Can Do"

Host: Charlie Kirk
Guest: Isabel Brown
Release Date: March 18, 2021

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Episode Overview

Charlie Kirk is joined by Isabel Brown, Turning Point USA contributor and author of Frontlines, for a deep dive into critical race theory (CRT) in American schools and campuses. They discuss recent controversies—especially the Loudoun County, VA "hit list" incident—parents and students fighting back, and actionable advice for listeners to stand up against CRT. Isabel shares personal frontline experiences as an outspoken conservative student, and the episode highlights blueprints for parental and student activism.

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Key Themes & Discussion Points

1. The Spread of Critical Race Theory (CRT) in Schools

[05:20 – 17:00]

• Loudoun County, VA case study:
  • A group of teachers and school officials compiled a private "hit list" of parents who spoke out against CRT policies (06:55).
  • Efforts included doxxing, intimidation, and alleged discussions about hacking and sabotaging parent activism.
  • "These teachers are now listing them, first name, last name and their location, their addresses, their employers, their spouses, names and their kids." – Charlie Kirk [09:32]
• Massive financial investment by school boards into "racial consulting" ($500,000+ in Loudoun County alone).
• CRT curriculum now reaching affluent, predominantly white districts, creating rifts as parents object to their children being taught they’re inherently racist.
• Kirk’s central argument: This is not just about public schools but a reflection of a broader culture war.
• Political implications: Soros-backed prosecutors in some counties dampen hope for swift redress (11:30).

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2. The Impact of COVID-19 & School Closures

[03:30 – 08:38]

• Kirk criticizes the closure of schools, claiming mental health and social crises could have been avoided with common-sense safety measures ("all we had to do was open windows" – mocking a New York Times piece) [03:57].
• The "silver lining": Parents became more aware of classroom content due to at-home learning during lockdowns, exposing CRT and left-leaning political content (08:00).
• "Parents should be intimately involved in what your children are learning, what information they are consuming." – Charlie Kirk [04:38]

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3. Isabel Brown’s Frontline Experiences

[17:18 – 28:46]

• Book spotlight: Frontlines [17:49–21:51]
  • Isabel narrates her time as a conservative student at Colorado State University:
    • Targeted, doxxed, and ostracized for founding a TPUSA chapter and expressing her views.
    • "I got the death threats and the threats of violence, and my address was doxed online. And really nowhere was safe in my college community because I dared to advocate for ideological diversity." – Isabel Brown [19:23]
  • Backlash included National Guard presence, snipers at events, and widespread hostility from both peers and administration [21:26].
• Academia’s shift:
  • Even traditionally conservative or apolitical fields (e.g., STEM) now pressured to adopt progressive dogma (18:40).
  • “Things like masks don't work, but then they do work for COVID-19 in my graduate school program and lots of flip-flopping on what you would expect to be objective truth in this pursuit of that. But now even science is dictated by what is politically correct in the appetite of the day.” – Isabel Brown [18:40]

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4. Escalating Radicalism on Campuses

[22:14 – 24:54]

• Conservatives on campus are increasingly labeled as "Nazis, white supremacists, terrorists" if they support Trump, leading to intensified isolation (22:14–23:11).
• Campuses moving past academic debate:
  • Isabel: “Even math classes are not exempt from this kind of stuff…universities are starting to segregate students more and more and more by race” (24:14).
  • Example: Columbia University’s multiple graduation ceremonies divided by race, gender, and socio-economic status [24:31].
• "We've literally gone in a circle historically, and I think there's just this hyper focus on identifying students as a group. ... you become public enemy number one." – Isabel Brown [25:12]

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5. Strategies for Parents and Students to Fight Back

[25:29 – 28:46]

• Key advice for parents and students: SPEAK UP—even when afraid.
  • "I would argue that you absolutely need to speak up and do something about it, even if you are scared and even if it is lonely and isolating. I lost a lot, if not all of my friends for a while there during my college experience." – Isabel Brown [25:35]
  • Following one bold voice, a "huge community" often forms—encouraging others to stand up as well [25:51].
• Lessons learned:
  • Expect difficulty and ostracism, but remain rooted in truth and conviction (Christian ethos) [26:46].
  • “It’s okay to walk alone if you’re walking towards the truth.” – Isabel Brown [26:53]
• For parents fearing retaliation: Look to stories like Isabel’s for inspiration, and recognize that speaking up can yield "peace" and a "strong foundation in truth" (28:46).
  • “There's so much peace in advocating for the truth. ... the people that are gonna come into your life as a result ... are going to mean so much more to you than anybody else.” – Isabel Brown [28:54]

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6. Professor Watchlist Segment: Nathan Fletcher

[29:15 – 31:30]

• Profile on Professor Nathan Fletcher (UC San Diego and Chair of San Diego Board of Supervisors):
  • Accused of calling conservatives “neo-Nazis and white supremacists” for supporting the recall of Governor Gavin Newsom.
  • Supported declaring racism a "public health crisis" and advocated for allocating COVID-19 funds by “racial and equity data” (31:10).
  • Kirk and Brown see his views as emblematic of the campus radicalism seeping into local and national government.
• Key counterpoint:
  • Mark Thiessen’s statistical debunking of the claim that Newsom recall support = white nationalism [32:16].

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Charlie Kirk [06:55, on Loudoun County]:
  "What if I told you that in Loudoun County, Virginia, teachers that are funded and paid by parents and their property tax dollars are compiling hit lists of parents who dare question critical race theory and they have plotted a war on them."
• Isabel Brown [19:23, on personal risk]:
  "I got the death threats and the threats of violence, and my address was doxed online. And really nowhere was safe in my college community because I dared to advocate for ideological diversity."
• Charlie Kirk [09:05, on ‘leftist gold rush’]:
  "It is the new gold rush. You see, the new gold rush is all you have to do is go around and charge these affluent school districts half a million dollars a pop. You basically have no overhead."
• Isabel Brown [25:35, on standing up]:
  “You absolutely need to speak up and do something about it, even if you are scared and even if it is lonely and isolating.”
• Charlie Kirk [28:46, does it end well?]
  "Does it end well?"
  Isabel Brown: "It does. It ends absolutely well. Better than your wildest dreams could possibly imagine. ... there's so much peace in advocating for the truth." [28:52]

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Important Timestamps

• 00:56–05:10: Introducing CRT, the issue at Loudoun County, COVID-19 school closures
• 05:10–17:17: Loudoun County deep dive, ramifications, parental reactions
• 17:18–21:51: Isabel Brown’s story, background, and her new book Frontlines
• 22:14–24:54: How campus culture has intensified post-COVID/Trump era
• 25:29–28:46: Advice for parents & students—How to push back effectively
• 29:15–31:30: Professor Watchlist: Nathan Fletcher profile, segment on recall campaign and race politics
• 32:16–32:58: Mark Thiessen on white nationalism stats and the Newsom recall
• [Throughout]: Multiple actionable “blueprints” for parent and student action

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Actionable Takeaways

• Parents: Be fully informed and involved in your children’s education; review curriculum materials and connect with like-minded community members.
• Students: Find your courage to speak up, even if it means standing alone at first; you may inspire others to join.
• General listeners: Support youth organizations like Turning Point USA, be vigilant of radical curricula, and communicate concerns to local school boards.

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Further Resources

• Turning Point USA: tpusa.com
• Isabel Brown’s Book: Frontlines (Described as “Finding My Voice on an American College Campus”)
• Professor Watchlist: professorwatchlist.org

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Transcript

[A]

Hey everybody. Critical Race Theory is spreading throughout the country. We've done many episodes about it. I am joined in this episode by Isabel Brown with her new book. We talk about what it's like to be on a college campus. We also talk about Loudoun county schools. You not believe this story? And we give a blueprint on how parents can fight back against this nonsense in their schools. If you want to support our program, go to charliekirk.com support I want to thank the amazing amount of people that are getting behind our program to make what we do possible. @charliekirk.com support please consider emailing us freedomarliekirk.com and if you want to see us on our upcoming tour to Oklahoma, Missouri, Kentucky, Nashville, Vegas, San Jose, it's tpusa.com genfree Critical race theory Fighting back on campus. Buckle up. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

[B]

I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

[A]

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We've been focusing a lot on critical race theory and of course we'll get to politics. But elections are so far out that these fights are exactly what will determine the type of country we're gonna live in in five or 10 years. And they do not get enough coverage by the activist press. I mean, they're there every once in a while, of course. The New York Times has a groundbreaking story on the front page of the New York Times that says all we have to do to open schools is open windows. I kid you not, front the first word, the highest word on the New York Times. Key to safe classrooms. Open the windows. Oh, so we could have prevented all the suicides, mental health issues, alcoholism, displacement, spring sports, summer sports, prom, comm. Social gatherings, all of that if we just open windows. Exactly what we said we should have done. Even though children have been proven not to be mass spreaders of the Chinese coronavirus, they are spreaders of the flu. Completely different schools are super spreaders for the flu. For whatever reason, they're not super spreaders of the Chinese coronavirus, maybe because someone created that way in a laboratory. But the closure of schools will go down as one of the most immoral, evil decisions, mistakes ever made in American history, largely because of Democrat politicians, weak Republicans, and corrupt teacher unions. The National Education Education association, the American Federation of Teachers. However, I guess the only positive that I can say about all of these schools being closed is that parents finally had an opportunity to to see what their children were learning. Now let me be very clear. It should not have taken lockdowns or children opening their laptops at home for their parents to see what they are learning. Parents should be intimately involved in what your children are learning, what information they are consuming. However, that is a positive. And we have received thousands of emails from [e-mail] of parents that say I had no idea the type of ideas that my school was teaching my children. So maybe that will be a positive of all these lockdowns because all we had to do was open windows, according to the New York Times. But this story out of Loudoun County, Virginia is stunning. It's telling. It's instructive in more ways than one. So Loudoun county is right near Washington D.C. it is one of the wealthiest counties in America. In fact, the wealthiest counties in America are all around Washington, D.C. washington, D.C. creates nothing of value. They create rules, laws, regulation and barriers for you and for entrepreneurs, for small business owners, and for families to be able to succeed. So Loudoun county used to be a Republican county 20 or 30 years ago. It is now a deep blue county. It is a ruling class county. It's filled with lobbyists, lawyers, crony dealer, maker, dealmakers, Congressional Hill staffers. Loudoun county is the who's who of the people that are running our Republican to the ground. But even in Loudoun county, there are parents that are pushing back against the bigoted Critical Race Theory. I'm working my way through my friend's book, Cynical Theories by James Lindsay and Helen Pluckrose. I highly recommend it. It is a thorough examination of critical race theory and every parent in the country, please listen to what I'm saying carefully. You must be intimately aware about the ideology, the philosophy, the ideas behind critical race theory because your child will come in contact with those ideas. Maybe on TikTok, maybe on Snapchat. Well, your kid shouldn't have a smartphone till they're 18. That's a different topic for a different time. Maybe in the classroom, maybe from their friends. Critical race theory has taken over our entire country. However, I am seeing more and more parents step up, speak out, start to get aware. And that's a positive thing. And I want to say kudos to you. We need more of it. There are the whole Bari Weiss article that we went through last week shows that parents have an increasing concern over this. But what if I told you that in Loudoun County, Virginia, teachers that are funded and paid by parents and their property tax dollars are compiling hit lists of parents who dare question critical race theory and they have plotted a war on them. And in fact the teachers go as far to say, how do we hack their computers, infiltrate, shut down their websites, expose these people publicly, the teachers are saying. In Loudoun County, Virginia, I'm reading from the Daily Wire.com members of a 624 member private Facebook group named parents and plotted fundraising and other offline work. They were doxxing and targeting parents that asked questions about critical race theory, asking is this really the best way our children should be learning about race? Where does this come from? Why didn't I learn this when I was younger? Who is Herbert Marcuse? Very simple questions, but the teacher said, no, you're a racist and we will expose you. Now, first of all, Loudoun county completely deserves this, and I don't say that lightly. Loudoun county last year paid half a million dollars to a racial consulting company. Half a million dollars. Andrew Gordon, you and I should start a new company where all we do is go around the country and consult people on racial consulting. We could make half a million dollars a pop per school district. He says he's all in. It is the new gold rush. You see, the new gold rush is all you have to do is go around and charge these affluent school districts half a million dollars a pop. You basically have no overhead. You come in with a bunch of academics and teach everyone critical race theory. Half a million bucks a pop. You do a couple of those, you're making real money. Forget the Permian Basin, the Balkan Shale, the Marcellus Shale, oil and natural gas fracking gold rush. No, it is 1849 all over again. All you have to go and do is go to the Beverly Hills of the world. Loudoun County, La Jolla, Highland Park, Texas, Winnetka, Illinois, Brookfield, Wisconsin, Palm Beach, Florida, and go to a bunch of parents and take their taxpayer dollars at them, realizing it. Charge half a million dollars for a couple days seminar. That is what the real business model is based on. I kid you not. Half a million dollars that Loudoun county paid in one year for a Equity in the center training program that promoted a sense of injustice and urgency around how racist America is. Loudoun county then proposed, then withdrew a policy that would ban teachers from disagreeing with the school's racial philosophies. It's written a little strange. What they're really saying is they proposed a policy that would allow disagreement. That's what they're trying to say. So basically, teachers are not allowed to disagree with it. It's kind of a double negative. So you have to deconstruct the sentence a little bit. So the school board created an equity committee, Loudoun county, an equity committee paid for by your taxpayer dollars. So this is a beast that they created. Loudoun county and the ruling class, parents that hated Donald Trump more than anything else, that are now complaining that their children are learning critical race theory. I hate to say they deserve it, but they deserve it. God bless them for speaking out. But you guys were silent when you created this racial bigoted monster over the last couple years. But it gets worst. It's way worse. These teachers are now listing them, first name, last name and their location, their addresses, their employers, their spouses, names and their kids. These are teachers that are listing parents in their local community that are teaching their children go after them in a Facebook group. Now the local district attorney or sheriff's criminal investigation is looking into this, but it's a county prosecutor that won thanks to $845,000 in cash from George Soros. So I don't expect any sort of criminal investigation to come anytime soon. These are teachers that are targeting you parents and children for asking questions. This story is critical in Loudoun County, Virginia, which is where the ruling class lives. The actual ruling class, Congressional staffers, White House staffers, lobbyists, corporate crony insiders, Northup Grumman, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, they all live in Loudoun county and they've decided to go try and become Democrats cuz it will benefit their own corporate financial interests. And so it used to be a Republican county. It's turned into basically a representation of the kingdom of Washington D.C. now one of my very good friends from Chicago just messaged me, says Charlie, you're hitting such important topics today. I feel like I need antidepressants because you're being so truthful and honest. Believe it or not, this story is a positive story. It's positive in the sense that parents are finally starting to draw lines in the sand and they're going to say you're not going to teach my child critical race theory garbage anymore. Now it's really interesting because now that critical race theory has hit home literally in the whitest, most elitist upper middle class communities in America, now it's considered to be a threat. You see white, when critical race theory was being taught in some far off land college or university away from the 14, 15, 16 or 17 year old sanctuaries of the ruling class children, you see the New York Times reading Washington Post consuming lobbyist ruling class in Loudoun County, Virginia said oh yes, let me go send my $500 contribution to BLM Incorporated. I'll get my yard sign, my bumper sticker and my end racism starter kit. I'm such a good person, in fact I encourage you if you go drive through Highland Park, Texas, which I know we're also on a Dallas radio station as well. If you go drive through even Scottsdale to a lesser extent, not exactly as bad. And you go see these big massive signs in people's yards, end racism, Black lives matter. You know what it really says? I'm a great person. Here's my proof. That's what they're saying. Look at how good of a person I am. And so now that those people that have those massive billboards in their yard, those bumper stickers, now that their children are being taught at age 15. You know, little Johnny, we know that your father's a lobbyist for some corrupt company or your mom is a congressional staffer for Dianne Feinstein. But did you know that because you're white, you're actually a racist? So little Johnny comes home and tells his parents this and they lose it. And then they start to push back. And what do the teachers do in response? In Loudoun County, Virginia, they target the parents. They have targeted them and in fact, they have even tried to hire hackers to go after these parents. I kid you not. This is being criminally investigated by a Soros funded county prosecutor. So don't get too excited about this. Nothing's gonna happen. But Loudoun school system, this is a monster of their own creation. As we mentioned, they paid half a million dollars to do this. And this is not just Loudoun County. This is happening in Naperville School District 203 in Texas. They're trying to pass this through their educational standards curriculum. This will impact every single vertical of culture imaginable. But what's the positive is finally, parents are waking up. I will offer grace and forgiveness for all the BLM Incorporated donations, for all the bumper stickers, for all the votes that went the wrong way, for Joe Biden, please save us while we're wearing three masks. I'll offer grace and forgiveness for all of that. Now's the time, regardless of political affiliation, for us to stand up against the woke industrial complex. And for the teachers that are targeting parents, I hope that's a wake up call for a lot of people that are listening this. These are employees of the parents. Literally they are paying them with their tax dollars. And the teachers are privately organizing saying, let's go find these parents. In fact, and I say, quote, an educator in a system of oppression is either a revolutionary or an oppressor. According to the Loudoun school system. Now is the time for the people that are funding this mess, parents to rise up in record numbers and remove the cancerous rot that is critical race theory from our schools. By now you've all heard me talk about how mypillow is incredible. A lot of you are asking, how do I support Mike Lindell? Well, everything Mike Lindell makes is made in America. And a lot of you think that Mike Lindell is very courageous. And so if you want to get behind Mike Lindell and the work he is doing and say, you know what, Mike I have your back. Go to MyPillow.com and use the promo code Kirk. Whatever you check out on MyPillow.com use the promo code Kirk. All Mypillow products come with a 10 year warranty and a 60 day money back guarantee. You can get a Queen size premium MyPillow for $29.98 regularly. $70. That's $40 in savings. Go to MyPillow.com, promo code Kirk. If you want to support Mike Lindell and get something made in America. That's awesome. Mypillow promo code Kirk. Support Charlie. Kirk. Mike Lindell. MyPillow.com, promo code Kirk. We are here with a familiar face, Isabelle Brown. Isabel, welcome back.

[C]

Thanks, Charlie.

[A]

I'm excited to be back from Turning Point usa. Isabel helped me tremendously. When I was fighting something for two weeks, I said, isabel, I need someone to accompany me. And she was terrific. That was right in January. That was early January. In fact, you were there during all the January 6th nonsense on set with us. So you have a new book called Frontlines by Isabel Brown and you also work for us at Turning Point usa. Let's start with your book. Tell us what the big argument you're making in the book is your experience and your story behind it.

[C]

Well, thanks so much for bringing that up. And it's just crazy that this book is something we can actually hold now. I've been working on this for so long and as an author, you are obviously able to relate to that quite a bit. It's a long process, but it's very cool that it's finally here. And I wrote this book starting towards the end of my college experience at Colorado State when I was a student activist for us at Turning Point usa. And I really discovered firsthand as a student just how much our college campuses have become the front lines of this culture war that you and I talk a lot about and what we highlight here at Turning Point usa. But as a pre med biomedical sciences student, I never expected to receive so much hate as an outspoken conservative and really experience the assault on objective truth even in the scientific field and in academia. So, I mean, I've talked a lot about this on your program before, but I was taught that, you know, there's two sets of chromosomes, but gender is actually a social construct.

[A]

Gender is fluid.

[C]

Exactly. Things like masks don't work, but then they do work for COVID 19 in my graduate school program and lots of flip flopping on what you would expect to be objective truth in this pursuit of that. But now even science is dictated by what is politically correct in the appetite of the day.

[A]

And so it's very well written. And you mentioned Turning Point quite a lot.

[C]

I thank you for that. I do. It's my Turning Point USA story.

[A]

And you're wearing the Turning Point USA jacket, so I am full approving of all of it. Also, Dennis Prager endorsed the book, and Prager is kind of like the Godfather. He's like the Moses of all of us in conservatism. He's been so impactful. So talk about why parents need to read this book as kind of like a first person narrative of what their kids might encounter in school.

[C]

Once I decided to be an outspoken conservative in my community and really be the first person to bring some of these ideas to my college campus through starting a Turning Point USA chapter, I was that number one target for the ideas and the ideology and the person to completely shut down and avoid on a college campus. Like many of our students, I got the death threats and the threats of violence, and my address was doxed online. And really nowhere was safe in my college community because I dared to advocate for ideological diversity. And I think, sadly, Today, so many 18 year olds show up to their college campus completely unprepared for the situations that they're going to be dealing with in the classroom, in student government, in Greek life, or other clubs on campus. So if a parent is really unsure of whether or not a conservative student of theirs might start to face these things in their next chapter, I think this is a great roadmap from the student perspective that really hasn't been shared before.

[A]

And so I remember you started the Turning Point USA group. I spoke in February of 2018, and the whole world blew up.

[C]

Oh, yeah. That's a good way to say that.

[A]

That was three years ago, Isabelle.

[C]

I know.

[A]

I remember that. That was a great event. And I had all sorts of people. I had some, like, film crew or something, Vice. I don't think they ever used the footage because it probably made me look too good or us look too good. And then you hosted Candace not too far after at a Change my mind event. I think you have a chapter on that.

[C]

I do, yeah.

[A]

And then you hosted Dennis Prager on campus, and then you hosted Don Jr. No, that was your sister.

[C]

It was my younger sister.

[A]

That was your sister. The Browns have a tendency for positive, courageous activism, but there are all sorts of stories within all of that. But you stayed active, right?

[C]

We kept working hard, and we built on that momentum of this crazy backlash we were experiencing from students and administration even telling us that the goal of our university wasn't to educate young adults and make them successful people. It was to become the social justice institution of America. Our administration wanted to be the next Mizzou. And you remember, Charlie, I remember just how bad that backlash was. The National Guard had to come to your event, if you remember.

[A]

Yes, that was three years ago.

[C]

Three years ago. Snipers on top of the computer science building. Not joking. And that just continued to escalate more and more. But I think because of that, students are seeing courageous members of their peer community speak up and fight back, even if it's something as little as raising your hand in class and fighting back against your professors. So there was a huge movement that spurred at CSU's campus and all across the country, as we see with our other Turning Point USA groups, too.

[A]

So the book is called Frontlines. It's by Isabel Brown. We were just showing it. So, Isabel, I want to talk about how it's happening now. The virus shut down all these schools. The New York Times says all we have to do is open windows. We could have opened all the schools. Exactly. We've been saying that. All get a little bit of wind in and things all of a sudden start to get better. You said that things have changed on campus and not for the better. What do you mean by that?

[C]

Academia, and particularly college campuses have just so rapidly evolved. And I think it's mirroring the change of culture. Culture in our country, too, in the last few months or so. We've been in this room in particular a lot since November, talking about how much our culture was going to change. And now, obviously, you're seeing conservatives from all walks of life, but especially on college campuses being labeled as all Nazis. They're white supremacists, they're terrorists if they voted for the former president in this last election. And this ideology is continuing to get crazier and crazier because, as we all know, people say things through a screen that they would never say in real life. And that's exactly what's happening with some of these virtual classes as well. Students are just being completely pummeled with leftism to a degree never before seen.

[A]

And I think that the radicalism has just gone to extreme lengths. And, you know, for parents that send their kids to college, things have changed. Even the last couple years since you went to college, it's gotten worse. Would you agree with that?

[C]

Progressively worse every year. And I think we're just at a tipping point. Truthfully, in our country, where people need to decide if getting a college degree is the right move for them, it might be for so many people who want to go to medical school or become an engineer, and that's the right pathway for them. But when you have to take mandated courses on how all conservatives are terrorists and we're so racially divided in this country that we'll never come back from that, and that our founding value is slavery and white supremacy instead of liberty and freedom, that's a moment to pause and think about that.

[A]

So talk about some of the things we are seeing at Turning Point usa. I get some of these updates and everyone should get involved. TPUSA.com just talk about some of the stuff that you're seeing on the front lines right now of stories at Turning Point USA with our students. They're under attack. What are some nuggets and stories you can share with us?

[C]

Our students are under attack like never before, Charlie. And obviously I've gone through a lot of that. So it's always a pleasure talking to our students from the other side of things and telling them that there is hope going through this stuff because it's really isolating and lonely to be an outspoken conservative in your community. I sat down with so many of our students over the last few months speaking on college campuses across the country, and I'm hearing stories like people getting kicked out of their sororities because they dared to post a tweet from Candace Owens on their Instagram story and how that goes against their sorority's values. People are now being taught that math is white supremacist and patriarchal. So even math classes are not exempt from this kind of stuff. And universities are starting to segregate students more and more and more by race as many ways as possible, by race, by gender identity, bisexual orientation, even socioeconomic status. I think one of the craziest stories that came out of this last week was Columbia University announcing how they're going to do their graduation ceremonies this year. There's going to be six or seven different ceremonies, one for black students and one for LGBT students and one for low income students and one for first generation students and females. And this is the evolution of progressive ideology. It's not progressive at all. We've literally gone in a circle historically, and I think there's just this hyper focus on identifying students as a group. And as soon as you as an individual try to break out of that and be unique, to push against the crowd, to be countercultural, especially as a conservative, you become Public enemy number one.

[A]

So one of the top questions we get is, I agree with all of that. I'm scared. What do I do?

[C]

I would argue that you absolutely need to speak up and do something about it, even if you are scared and even if it is lonely and isolating. I lost a lot, if not all of my friends for a while there during my college experience.

[A]

Every friend you have, except maybe one or two, will go away.

[C]

Absolutely. And I was called every name in the book, literally. White supremacist, racist, white power Barbie. You know, homophobic, transphobic. I got the death threats. My address was posted online. Trust me, if anybody gets it, I get it. I walked through that valley of fire for a very long time as a student. But by the time I graduated, there was this huge community of people having socialism sucks buttons on their backpack and raising their hand in class and running for student government as conservatives. And I learned very early on through this process, being a student and now doing what I do, sometimes people just need someone else to be the first person. They need somebody else to set up the table and hand out the buttons or raise their hand in class or run for student government or speak up against some of these crazy policies like these graduation ceremonies. And all of a sudden, dozens and dozens, if not thousands of people get the courage to do that, too.

[A]

So what was the biggest thing that you know today that you wish you would have known right before you went to college?

[C]

It wasn't going to be what I expected. And truthfully, that college was not going to be what I expected. Even the big cowboy agricultural school in Colorado has been totally overrun by leftism, and that it's okay to walk alone if you're walking towards the truth. And I think we forget even as Christians sometimes in this world that we're not supposed to fit into this world. Right. I tell people this all the time when they ask, how do you deal with the hate? How do you handle some of this name calling and the death threats? I'm not trying to be like this world. I'm trying to make this world a little bit more like the next. And the gospel is very clear. As a Christian, this is what I fall back on when things get tough. I'm going to be hated if I tell the truth and if I dare to be different from this world.

[A]

The book is Finding My Voice on an American College Campus. It's written in narrative form. Let me just tell you some of the chapters. And I love these names right here. Indoctrination 101. It's not just me. Socialism sucks. I love that. A bad case of isms and the Obias. Student government or partisan politics. My turning point. What was your turning point?

[C]

Finding Turning Point usa.

[A]

I couldn't have set it up any better than that. Right, Producer Connor? The best. Speaking up and speaking out. Changed my mind. Coming unglued, the liberal case for a conservative presence on campus, on the front lines. Politics do belong at the dinner table in the arena. Pretty compelling. And so throughout all of that, it's a big deal to write a book at any age. And so I hope every young person that's watching or listening or parent, you look at Isabelle's story and Isabelle's story is one of many of people that are speaking out. She was very active. I think she was probably the most active person we had in all of Turning Point USA for an 18 month period and withstood huge opposition. But for parents out there, and we just did a whole segment on critical race theory and all that, they say, well, I'm afraid we'll draw inspiration from people that are literally fighting every single day and they're the ones that have gone through this. And Isabel, in the minute 15 we have remaining, does it end well?

[C]

It does. It ends absolutely well. Better than your wildest dreams could possibly imagine. And I always tell people, this is hard. We know what we're asking you to do is difficult. You might lose friends, you might get a failing grade on a paper, or you're probably going to get called all these crazy names. But there's so much peace in advocating for the truth. And you find a lot of stability and a strong foundation in that. And I can guarantee you the people that are gonna come into your life as a result of speaking up and standing for what is right are going to mean so much more to you than anybody else.

[A]

That's well said. We have a new addition to our professor watch list. Now, if you're watching this or listening on podcast or radio all across the country and you say, what is the professor watch list? It's a project of Turning Point usa, where we name the names and the actions specifically, factually, of the teachers that are indoctrinating your kids, your students with your dollars. And today's professor watch list selection is Nathan Fletcher. Isabelle, tell us all about him.

[C]

Ah, Professor Fletcher. What an interesting character. This is an individual who not only is a professor of political science at the University of California, San Diego, he's also chair of the San Diego County Board of Supervisors. So he's sort of double dipping in the insanity on college campuses and in local government in California. But this individual is paid by the local government and the university to say things like all conservatives taking part in the recall effort of Governor Newsom are neo Nazis and white supremacists. He says that the storming of The Capitol on January 6th reminded him of his combat experience as a Marine to the enemies of America. This individual says that Trump is an existential threat to peaceful democracy and even that Black Lives Matter protests were never responsible for any cases of COVID 19. But you know what word, Charlie, as an expert in science here, political science, remind you, bars, restaurants, house parties, offices in the state of California. So there's a club clear double standard when it comes to political beliefs here. But this individual is just beyond the pale as a leftist professor.

[A]

And he also has said there's substantial evidence that those who are leading the recall effort against Gavin Newsom are linked and associated with neo Nazi, with white supremacists, with right wing militia groups, which is a total lie.

[C]

Of course it is. Yeah. And he actually went on to say that racism beyond all of this should be a public health crisis as declared by the local government there in San Diego County. And they were trying to pass a resolution that would force the county to use racial and equity data to prioritize public funding for projects and COVID 19 relief funds.

[A]

And he argued this in front of the Board of Supervisors and he got his public health crisis resolution passed. Now let's go to cut 52 of Gavin Newsom. Who listens to this person was Professor Nathan Fletcher. Remember, what happens on college campuses doesn't stay there. It goes everywhere like a virus. Playtape. Look at the petition. Look at the actual reasons they themselves listed. It has to do with immigration. The Browning of California has to do deeply with our values, the things we hold dear. And then let's go to cut 53 of Mark Thiessen, just wonderfully cross examining him. Play tape. Mark, what's going on here?

[B]

So crunch the numbers with me for a second, Harris there. According to the far left Southern Poverty Law center, there are 148 white nationalist groups in the entire country. Which, by the way, is horrible. But let's say that on average they have 1,000 members. That means that there's about 148,000 white nationalists in the entire country. If you think that's too small, double it, triple it, quadruple it. There are 2 million people who've signed a petition to recall Governor Newsom. Half a million more than is necessary to start or trigger a recall. If every white nationalist in America lived in California and signed that petition, they wouldn't even come close to triggering a recall. He is not being recalled because he's because of racism. He's being recalled because he's incompetent.

[A]

Well said, Mark Thiessen. Sometimes he was a little unfair towards Trump. That was a phenomenal piece of television. And he's exactly right. And Gavin Newsom is the one that actually cares about people's skin color. And all of this stems from a hyper bigoted college atmosphere that teaches your children care about race, not about character, but they care about skin color, which is evil and immoral and wrong. Isabel the book is called Frontlines. Everyone check it out. Get a copy if you can. Someone wants a signed copy. And I'll tell you what, we'll get a couple copies. I'll buy a couple copies. If you guys subscribe to the Charlie Kirk show hit subscribe and email it to us freedomarliekirk.com I'll get Isabel to sign it for you. We'll do three copies. If you guys do that, subscribe to the Charlie Kirk show and email us your subscription freedomarliekirk.com thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us your questions freedomarliekirk.com if you want to get involved with Turning Point USA, go to tpusa.com thanks so much for listening, everybody. God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can Trust, go to charliekirk.com.