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Charlie Kirk
Hey, everybody. My conversation with Gavin Newsom. Boom. We review it right here exclusively on the Charlie Kirk Show. And that's why you guys should stay subscribed. And if you want to become a member, it's members.charliekirk.com members.charliekirk. com when you guys become a member, you guys can get exclusive benefits and listen to all episodes advertiser free. This is my conversation with Gavin Newsom. Enjoy, everybody. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go.
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Gavin Newsom
Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
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Unknown Speaker
Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House.
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I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point usa.
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Charlie Kirk
We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives.
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Gavin Newsom
And we are going to fight for.
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Charlie Kirk
Freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of the Charlie Kirk Show, a company that specializes in gold IRAs and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble gold investments@noblegoldinvestments.com that is noblegoldinvestments.com it's where I buy all of my gold. Go to noblegoldinvestments.com Lots of breaking news happening today, but we want to dive right into a very viral news story of my appearance on Gavin Newsom's podcast. So just to be very clear, why Gavin Newsom is hosting a podcast is pretty evident. He wants to try to run to the middle and try to moderate ahead of the 2028 presidential race. I am the first guest and we had quite the conversation. Challenged him on a lot of different issues. Did not challenge him on everything I wanted to. Anything that comes to this is kind of how it works. So we'll go through a lot of the tape. I thought I did fine, the team thought I did well, and you guys will be the judge. Anything that has to do with California, it gets into basically a shouting match and it's like, you don't understand. I know better than you. We're doing all these superfluous community committees and it just kind of gets deadlocked into a draw. It gets hyper emotional on anything related to a specific of California. The premise was that Governor Newsom wanted to have me on his program to learn from me and MAGA faithful as to why they are getting their tail kicked. And we went into it, we went into homelessness, we went into school closures. And the one that is making the most headlines is the issue of men in female sports. And I love debate. I'll debate anybody at any time. And as far as if this is the best use of his time while people still do not have homes in the Palisades, that is, that is a good argument. Now this is the longer clip. Let's just start here around men and female sports. This is going very viral. Gavin Newsom obviously knows which way the wind is blowing, unless of course, it's a wildfire in the Palisade. Sorry, that's too soon. He always kind of knows the directional political energy. And this is our conversation around whether or not that biological men should be allowed in female sports play. Cut 191. You have an opportunity to like, you.
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Gavin Newsom
Know, run to the middle and see this man. So obviously you're talking to me about people.
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
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Gavin Newsom
So like, you right now should come out and be like, you know what? The young man who's about to win the state championship in the long jump in female sports, that's. That, that shouldn't happen. You as the governor should step out.
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Unknown Speaker
And say no, no. And I appreciate, but like, would you.
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Gavin Newsom
Do something like that? Would you say no? Men in female sports.
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Unknown Speaker
Well, it's, I think it's an issue of fairness. I completely agree with you on that. It is an issue of fairness. So it's deeply.
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Gavin Newsom
Would you speak out against this young man, A.B. hernandez, who right now is going to win the state championship in the long term? I can see you wrestling with it.
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Unknown Speaker
No, I'm not wrestling. I'm not relaxing with the fairness issue. I totally agree with you. By the way, as someone with four kids, you, I think.
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Gavin Newsom
And two daughters.
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Unknown Speaker
Daughters.
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Gavin Newsom
Daughter too.
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Unknown Speaker
And a wife that went God forbid to Stanford and played on the junior national soccer team and a guy who got into college only because I was left handed and could throw baseball a little bit or hit the, hit the ball for a little bit. So I revere sports. And so the issue of fairness is completely legit. And I, I saw that the last couple years. Boy, did I saw how you guys were able to weaponize that issue at another level.
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Gavin Newsom
Not weaponized. Don't.
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Unknown Speaker
That's, that's well, weaponized. Maybe pejorative, you're right. But you were able to shine a light on, highlight it in a way that frankly, I. There are not that many we're talking about. I think the NC2A what, 510,000. No, no.
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Gavin Newsom
But I just didn't realize it's 890 medals and trophies that we know of in the last five years.
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Charlie Kirk
That's a lot.
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Unknown Speaker
No. So I'm going to let me step back, say completely fair on the issue of fairness. I completely agree. So that's easy to call out the unfairness of that. There's also a humility and grace, you know, that these poor people are more likely to commit suicide, have anxiety and depression. And the way that people talk down to vulnerable communities is an issue that I have a hard time with as well. So both things I can hold in my hand. How can we address this issue with the kind of decency that I think, you know, is inherent in you, but not always expressed on the issue.
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Gavin Newsom
No, I get it.
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Unknown Speaker
At the same time, deal with the uncertainty.
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Gavin Newsom
So you asked a good faith question like how do we Democrats get out of the wilderness? This one is an 8020 issue New York Times poll.
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Charlie Kirk
Right?
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Gavin Newsom
That's.
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Unknown Speaker
No, I agree with you.
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Gavin Newsom
We're getting crushed on crushed. And you have an opportunity in the state to be like, look, I have a heart for 8020 baby Hernandez. I have a heart for the San Jose volleyball player. Yeah, let's give them compassion. What's not fair is just for like a woman's entire woman's sports.
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Unknown Speaker
I agree. You know, by the way, I agree with you. I agree with you. And it's interesting. I stress tested this Charlie, I was wondering, I said, you know, in California and I've been a leader in the LGBTQ places as faces, you know, back in 2004 was marrying same sex couples. And I know we have difference opinion on, on marriage equality. And so I've been at this for years and years. I take a bad seat to no one. But I was actually on the issue of sports which in the last few years has just exploded trying to understand and understand the 10 athletes in the NC2A 510,000 athletes. But 10 athletes and what. But how profound. And even my own friend cohort people saying, the hell is going on? Why aren't you calling this out? When did this happen? So in 2000. Turns out in 2014, years before I was governor, there was a law established that established the legal principles that allow the allow trans athletes in women's sports. But the issue of fairness is completely legit. So I completely align with you. And we've got to own that, we've got to acknowledge it. I don't say that through the prism of politics because you disagree with same sex marriage on principle. And so I'm not. And by the way, I value the fact that you're not trying to walk away from that principle because electorally, I'm.
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Gavin Newsom
In the minority of that.
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah, in the minority. And I don't want to walk away from this principle because it's electoral, but it is an issue of fairness. And I think Democrats.
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Gavin Newsom
No, I think that. I wish that we would have done this podcast last week because last week. Well, because the U.S. senate just vote. Every Democrat voted against that bill. And I'm just telling you, like, again, not. I'm not one to give Governor Newsom advice. You guys are giving us an 8020 issue that is just permeating the country is such an affront to our senses. And you look at these videos, Governor, because it's not just that. It's okay, you read an article about it, but these young men that are, you know, are in these sports, they're throwing around girls. And it is an issue of fairness, but it goes to a broader arch narrative.
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Unknown Speaker
There you go.
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Gavin Newsom
Which is important now.
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Unknown Speaker
And this, I want to hear this.
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Gavin Newsom
Which is this, that, that, that you, that the Democrats, you guys will tend to view an incident through an oppressor, oppressed lens.
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
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Gavin Newsom
It's your training. It comes from college. It comes from. And we as conservatives tend to view things through right or wrong or just or unjust. And the country is going far more in our direction and away from your direction.
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Charlie Kirk
That's just a little taste. Now, I do have to interject one thing, by the way. Governor Newsom is getting attacked by the left rather aggressively for saying, quote, I completely align with you. He aligns with us on this program. Now, is Gavin, is he being, let's just say, honest with his deeply held beliefs? I think it's just pure transactional politics, but who knows? And honestly, who cares? What's important is that we are winning on the issue and even the governor of California has to come in our direction. But, boy, there's gonna be a reckoning in California because that is the center of radical trans ideology. However, there's something that he said that I would have interjected and said if the podcast would have been recorded the next day, which is. He said, well, they're more likely to commit suicide. A new study from the University of Texas actually shows that is not true. Yesterday, quote, males that had trans affirming, gender affirming, care, surgery had depression rates of 25% compared to males without surgery. Anxiety rates that the group were 12.8% compared to 2.6%, quote, depression, anxiety and Suicidal ideation and substance use disorders were significantly higher among those who underwent surgery. The same differences were found among females. As with surgery at 22.9% depression rates, females who underwent surgery also had anxiety rates compared to 7.1% without surgery. New study came out that shows that it's not even true. The University of Texas study shows that the suicide talking point is completely nonsense. We tweeted this out yesterday. Elon retweeted it. It went totally viral, seen by 20 or 30 million people. So I would have responded to Governor Newsom if that study would have been out in time for our conversation. We're gonna keep on going into this conversation that I had with Governor Newsom. I will say this. The way that we view the world is through right and wrong, just and unjust. They view it through oppressor, oppressed. And the entire Democrat party just said we do not care if men are in female sports. The Governor of California is standing up against it. Is it legitimate or not? More than anything else it is interesting and illuminating and I'm glad that we were able to bring that out to the surface. It is an 8020 issue. The governor's trying to run to the middle. We'll see the kind of backlash that that will receive from the trans radical ideologues in the Democrat why refi if you are a private student loan borrower? Listen carefully. Private student loan debt totals over $300 billion. About 45 billion of that is labeled as distressed. Why refi does not care what your credit score is. You can finally take control of your student loan situation with a plan that works for your monthly budget. Let's face it, if you have distressed or defaulted private student loans, nobody is coming to bail you out. You can even skip a payment every 6 months up to 12 times without penalty. Just call 888 yrefi34 or log on to yrefi.com that is yrefy.com yrefi.com youm can even skip a payment every 6 months up to 12 TIMES that penalty. This may not be available in all 50 states so go to yrefi.com yrefy.com can you imagine being debt free and not living under this burden anymore? Be unburdened by what has been great company. They're highly ethical. I can vouch for them. Again, they're at our office a lot. We're meeting them a lot of different stuff. They support Turning Point usa. They are mission aligned. So if you have private student loan debt, have them help you@yrefi.com yrefy.com.
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Unknown Speaker
More.
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Charlie Kirk
Of my conversation with Gavin Newsom. So this is kind of how it all started. Gavin said that Governor Newsom said that his son is a big fan of the Charlie Kirk show and that he really wanted to come to the studio. And I responded off the cuff and rather sharply. And I'll tell you, when you have conversations like this, you see Governor Newsom was being overly effusive in his praise towards me. So you have to kind of meet the interviewer at his frequency. Remember, I'm a guest on his show. So here's a guy who I believe has done incredible damage to the most beautiful state in the country that I believe has done just unspeakable harm to the great people of California. So here he is kind of throwing on the praise. It's a difficult thing because you don't want all of a sudden look as if you're just coming out like, super aggro at the same time. You must challenge. So I tried to get in a couple little one liners here. There. Listen carefully. Play cut 174.
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Unknown Speaker
Last night, trying to put my son to bed. He's like, no, Dad, I just. What time? What time's Charlie gonna be here? What time? And I'm like, dude, you're in school tomorrow. He's 13. He's like, no, no. This morning, wakes up at 6 something. He's like, I'm coming. I'm like, craig. He literally would not leave the house.
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Gavin Newsom
Did you let him take off school?
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Unknown Speaker
No, he did. Of course not. He's not here for a good reason.
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Charlie Kirk
But the point is, you canceled school.
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Gavin Newsom
For like two years. Once.
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Unknown Speaker
One day. The point is. The point, which is you are making a damage, Dennis.
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Gavin Newsom
Thank you. I'm kidding.
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Charlie Kirk
We canceled school for two years. Come on. I mean, you had the Zoom class for two years. You shut down all the California schools. All kidding aside, it really just showed the power of this program, the power of all of you that subscribe to our show and keep the momentum going that we are reaching the sons and daughters of the Democrat ruling class. And I just want to have the offer to Governor Newsom, both privately and publicly. We'd love to have your son come to one of our Turning Point USA events. We won't make a big deal out of it. We won't say, oh, this is Gavin Newsom's son. No, no, no. We just want him to be able to have a patriotic experience. This summer. We have our Student Action Summit. We'd love to have him come to Tampa, Florida. He could bring a couple Freds. I think it'd be incredible to have Governor Newsom say again, we wouldn't make a whole thing a display out of it. He can make up his own mind. But it does show the impact of the virality of what we've been doing. And I wonder if that was one of the reasons why I was invited to be the first guest on Gavin Newsom's program. I was the first guest on the program and I wonder if there was something to do with his son. And so. But we are reaching the next generation, we are reaching young people. And one of the pieces of tape that we will get into is how I explained how younger voters are the most suicidal, alcohol addicted, anxious and quite honestly suffering generation in modern American history, if not in American history. Let's play cut 175.
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Unknown Speaker
When you go to these college campuses, I love watching your TikTok, which is next level. Clearly that's expressed by my 13 year old son.
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Gavin Newsom
I want to meet this guy. Yeah, he's coming to a turning point event this summer. Tampa, Florida Student Action Summit.
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Unknown Speaker
I actually, by the way, if you should be concerned, but let me say here is why I'm concerned because you have expressed, expressed that I should be concerned as a Democrat that we're getting. Oh, we're getting lobbered.
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Gavin Newsom
Yes.
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Unknown Speaker
That you've, you've figured something out.
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Gavin Newsom
It's not me. The president first deserves the credit.
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Charlie Kirk
But why.
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Unknown Speaker
No, no, hold on. You were at this before Trump was Trump. I know, but he was a Democrat back in 2011.
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Gavin Newsom
Yeah, but the president deserves huge credit. And I just have to say that as an obligatory thing because without him our movement would be small. And, and you can appreciate that in politics you have to appreciate the person.
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Unknown Speaker
Who is the catalyst for you. That's what you sort of attached an identity to.
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Gavin Newsom
It was also just the catalyst. It was a cultural moment that just opened us up.
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Charlie Kirk
By the way, the media is covering this all live. It's big, big coverage about how Gavin Newsom is breaking with the Democrat Party. Daily Mail, Fox News across the board. Here's gonna be interesting for Gavin Newsom. It's not worth our time. Whether or not the shift is legitimate or not. I don't think it's legitimate. I think it's all just political opportunity. Is, will the Democrat Party put up with a candidate like Gavin Newsom who's trying to moderate his views? Will they allow somebody to say, nope, actually no men in female sports to try to help rebuild the image. And we went right in, by the way, on all the race stuff. Prop 16, legalized racial discrimination. I also challenged him on the most radical trans law in the country. And to be honest with you, we'll play this tape of when I challenge him on the most radical trans law. He's so slippery when it comes to the California stuff. He'll argue from authority like, no, no, that's not actually what the ball. The bill says, this, this, this, this, this. And I, I know he's wrong, but I don't have the bill handy. So it's. You kind of just go. You kind of get lost in the details there. But I'm still glad I brought it up. Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here. Brand new year, brand new opportunities to change the world for the better. It's easier than you might think. You can save babies by providing ultrasounds with preborn. Together with the Sanctity of Human life month, we're gonna save 35,000 babies to show the world that not only do we believe life is precious, but we're gonna do something about it. Your gift of preborn will give a girl the truth about what's happening in her body so that she can make the right choice. What better way to start this new year than to join us to save babies? And $28 a month will save a baby a month all year long. A $15,000 gift will provide a complete ultrasound machine that will save thousands of babies for years and years to come and will also save moms from a lifetime of pain and regret. I am a donor to this organization, and you should be, too. Start this new year by being a hero for life. Call 833-850-2229 or click on the Pre Born banner at charliekirk.com that is charliekirk.com and click on the preborn banner. I'm a donor. You should be, too. CharlieKirk.com Preborn Banner. So let's get into it. So this has been one of Gavin Newsom's most effective attack lines. When he is on a show like Sean Hannity or when he goes up against Ron DeSantis, he says, you guys are book banners. So he brought that one right out of his back pocket and he decided to deploy it. And this is how I've always wanted Republicans to reply to the book banning issue. If I may say so myself, I thought I did very well on this. We actually did zero prep on this. You know, we were prepping for all the different types of things that could be brought up. We did not bring up book banning. This is how. If I was a Republican, this is how you should respond to this issue. Play cut 192.
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Unknown Speaker
How about the book ban stuff? On a serious note, 4,240 books or titles, libraries and schools are banned in 2023. Is that not as a conservative?
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Charlie Kirk
Well, it depends.
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Gavin Newsom
I mean, like, I think we can both agree pornography should not be taught to nine year olds.
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Unknown Speaker
Fair point.
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Gavin Newsom
Okay, so that's a book band.
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Unknown Speaker
All right, well, there were some other books.
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Gavin Newsom
That was the Moms for Liberty contention. Timeout. Yeah, like I agree on Bill O'Reilly. The moms for Liberty movement that you made a big thing of was just no porn to 10 year olds. Yeah, we agree. So those bands should be. Those books should be banned. Well, okay, so what we should do right now is every California school that has porn in their library should be kicked out.
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Unknown Speaker
That include the Bible?
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Gavin Newsom
Well, I wouldn't say the Song of Solomon is porn.
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Unknown Speaker
No, but I mean, some have made that point. Is that a fair point?
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Charlie Kirk
I don't.
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Gavin Newsom
I don't think that's fair.
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Unknown Speaker
As a man of faith, and I deeply admire that about you.
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Gavin Newsom
Thank you. But no. I mean, again, the Song of Solomon is rather risque. But what we're talking about in these books is not just the words, it's also the images. And again, your audience can look at the images themselves. It's highly graphic.
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Unknown Speaker
But again, what it seems a banning binge. I mean, at next level, sort of cancel culture.
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Gavin Newsom
But why do you think moms are doing that? Do you think it's because they want to have mind control?
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Charlie Kirk
Or do you think that they have.
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Gavin Newsom
Come across, I think incident of. Incident of highly provocative material.
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Unknown Speaker
I love moms, but this Mom's. I mean, I would have to get into Moms for Liberty.
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Gavin Newsom
You brought up the book band.
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Unknown Speaker
Deeply organized for a larger agenda. But that's my humble opinion.
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Gavin Newsom
No, but I. But for. But let me just, you know, kind of complete. The point is that it's easy to just call it kind of a book ban, but when you actually have to read some of these books, it will take your breath away of some of this stuff. Right? You're like, okay, you know, we're teaching a 10 year old, but a condom on.
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Unknown Speaker
I know. I just have a problem with, you know, who the hell is going to decide that? Government. I mean, Duran DeSantis is going to decide what I can read or say.
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Gavin Newsom
I mean, in the boardroom.
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Unknown Speaker
Hold on.
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Gavin Newsom
This is the exercise of politics, though. The exercise of politics is the highest form of community because it blends morality and sociability. So what we do is we have discussion and elections and we have boards and commissions. Right. And we as a people say, okay, no porn for 10 year olds.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, that's politics, right?
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Gavin Newsom
I mean, I'm not saying that sort.
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Unknown Speaker
Of we gotta stress test whether the Bible's included in that. I don't even wanna go forward anymore on this. No, it's tough. But this is the, this becomes a.
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Gavin Newsom
Dialectic I have heard a lot I've never heard. That's interesting though.
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Unknown Speaker
No, I mean it's a, it's a problem. I don't take offense. Again, I deeply don't mean offend by the way. Father Kaz would be offended if you.
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Gavin Newsom
Think the Bible's pornographic.
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Unknown Speaker
But there's just, there's, there's. Most of these books are quote unquote, not pornography. There's sections that are.
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Gavin Newsom
That can affect of images that are very violating to young kids.
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Unknown Speaker
Some we would agree on that.
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Gavin Newsom
Can I just say one other thing? But if you want to learn, Governor, and I'm happy that there is a movement of moms that is not, that's growing where they feel as if our kids are being hypersexualized. And I agree with them that they are being. That they have to hear topics social media. Well, both in the social media and in particular.
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Charlie Kirk
So that that's how you handle in my opinion, the book banning issue. And look, Governor Newsom, that said, I don't want to go any more forward on this because it's very easy to say book ban, book ban, book ban when you frame it as what it is, which is a common sense. Just kicking out of pornography in our schools. And him mentioning the Bible is just so ridiculous. The only reason I did not get indignant is that there are some portions of the Song of Solomon that are risque. I wouldn't say it's pornography, but the issue has always been visual images for 8, 9 and 10 year olds that are so violating. Not longer holy texts that may or may not be read to kids. Which I think is just such an outrageous example for him to try to bring in there. But he was starting to lose and then comes back in. We don't want to talk about that anymore. Also they call them book bans when it's just why are we teaching this book? Why is this book in the library for fifth graders? That is not a ban. It is not a ban. It's a, maybe a ban on pornography, which we can all agree with. So here is another lengthy clip that I want to play. And now before I get into it, I knew the details dangerously enough on this topic. However, this is where Gavin Newsom is his most slippery and his most shifty and the most clever. Anything to do with a detail in California. He will argue from authority, get hyper aggressive, talk over you and say you don't know. You're not from here. This is the most radical trans bill in the country, without a doubt. Essentially, as it is written, a teacher cannot be fired if they do not tell parents that their kid is transitioning at school, is taking hormones at school, or is calling him or herself vice versa. Sex. There are other elements of this bill that I was not able to recall. I'll be perfectly honest with you candidly, right there on the spot. I have a good memory, but it was just there's so much kind of going on there. The question is, who has sovereignty over our kids? We never got really into that. But anything to do with California, Gavin Newsom will rise up. You don't understand. This is not what he does. This thing with the hands. Let me tell you what's really in the bill. That's not what it is. And I even doubled or tripled down on even the extreme example because yes, I think a teacher should 100% be fired if the teacher does not tell a parent that their kid is transitioning. Of course I do. Even though that is the more radical extremist interpretation of this bill. So it's just one example of how he reacts to anything to do with California. It's also very good for anyone who might be dialogue with Gavin in the future, anyone that might be debating against him in the future. When it comes to California, not only do you need to know your stuff, you have to be willing to get into the trenches because he'll just try to bring you down right into the gutter on the issue, muddy it up, get into the weeds. It's a very effective debate tactic. Is it rooted in truth? Of course not. Play cut 194.
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Gavin Newsom
You signed a law where school districts can't even tell parents if their kids are trans.
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Unknown Speaker
Not true. Okay, okay, then no, they can. They just can't get fired for not doing that. And it wasn't just trans fired for not there was. The law was explicit, said you can't be fired for not snitching on a kid, not just for being trans, for being gay. And my point is, how in the.
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Gavin Newsom
Hell but should you tell Parents know they have every but it's telling Parents snitching.
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Unknown Speaker
No, the, the, the teachers themselves have the right. They did. The lot is they can do that. They can do that. We're not saying you can't do that. We're saying you shouldn't be fired if you choose not to say. Johnny was talking about, you know, liking.
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Gavin Newsom
Some other boys the other way.
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Unknown Speaker
Charitable.
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Gavin Newsom
But let me.
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Unknown Speaker
The freedom not to.
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Gavin Newsom
Let me tell you the other way to say this, that a teacher, of course should be fired if you don't notify a parent of what's happening to their kid. But I mean, they should be terminated for that.
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Unknown Speaker
If on health and safety. I want these kids to teach, I want these teachers to teach. And by the way, they feel like the health or safety of their kid, they have a responsibility to communicate that they still can. By the way, we're not selling these teachers. They can't. We're saying they won't be fired if they don't look around and say in the recess, there were two boys. Why didn't you see that? You're fired. You should have said something.
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Gavin Newsom
Because they're talking about two different things. What you're. But there of course should be a penalty measure, whether it be termination or whatever, if a teacher withholds information from a parent. Because what you're saying is that there's no way to hold them accountable.
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Unknown Speaker
You're saying you're accountable to what though?
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Gavin Newsom
Accountable to kids.
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Unknown Speaker
Talking about the fact that this is talking about subject matter. All of a sudden now we have to have teachers policing. I think speech or conversation.
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Gavin Newsom
You would agree, Governor, that is an over extreme example. What we're talking about.
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Unknown Speaker
Nobody but the extreme example.
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Gavin Newsom
This was a solution we're talking about is if. Which happens a lot, unfortunately, is if a young girl says that, hey, I want to transition and the teacher accommodates and affirms it and the parent doesn't even know. I have met parents like that.
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Unknown Speaker
I heard Trump. And then they come back and they're. There's so much extreme.
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Gavin Newsom
I will say. And we don't have to, you know, we don't have to wrestle too much on this topic, but you guys will lose on these topics. And I disagree.
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Unknown Speaker
But again, but, but I'm one of those guys. And Charlie, I appreciate. And I, by the way, appreciate the civility which we're engaged in this conversation. Sincerely, I don't mind losing. Sometimes you lose on Prince. It's one of those things. Everything's not political is the point and sometimes the principle. And by the way, mad respect for you.
- [26:52]
Gavin Newsom
Abortion and saying the American people don't agree with me.
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Unknown Speaker
Exactly. And I, but I admire that on principle. But for me it's not just political. And I appreciate you making that point. I deeply am mindful of the politics of this which are very unhelpful personally. It's unhelpful more broadly, professionally, the Democratic party and our brand. And one of the reasons to your point, the Democratic Party brand has just been crushed.
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Gavin Newsom
And as your self awareness is helpful to know because it is deeply unpopular and I think that that is an ascendant political force.
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Unknown Speaker
Right.
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Gavin Newsom
That is not going away.
- [27:29]
Unknown Speaker
No, I appreciate. But I also appreciate you hold deeply unpopular beliefs.
- [27:32]
Gavin Newsom
Of course I do. But I.
- [27:34]
Unknown Speaker
But you're not running for office.
- [27:35]
Gavin Newsom
I'm not going to run for president as a moderate.
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Charlie Kirk
The facts are this. It's very simple. A California public school teacher is not required to inform parents if their child is transitioning. In July 2024, Governor Newsom signed Assembly Bill 1955, also known as the Support Academic Future and Educators for Today's Youth Act. The legislation prohibits school districts from enacting or enforcing policies that require teachers or other school staff to notify parents about a student's gender identity, sexual orientation or gender expression. So he's taking an incredibly extreme interpretation of. And it goes back down to the core. Whose kids is it? So it doesn't block them from telling, obviously, but it enables teachers who are trying to secretly transition kids while the parents are clueless. Let me say that again. It enables and protects teachers who are secretly trying to transition kids while parents are clueless. And of course, this empowers the LGBTQ student activist teachers who are trying to go after kids and groom them in the classroom. We know that to be correct and the parents have no idea. These are our kids, meaning parents kids, not the government's, not the teachers. It is a grooming protection bill. No exaggeration. That's how I should have gone about it. I thought I did okay. I thought we probably went to a draw there, but anything on California? It's very, very difficult to make any progress with them. Very difficult. With the stock market at record highs, are you confident your portfolio can weather the next big downturn? Market corrections are quick and unforgiving, wiping out hard earned gains in an instant. Smart investors know the key to financial security is diversification. That's why Noble Gold Investments makes it easy for Americans to help hedge market volatility and diversify their investments with gold. Since 2010, central banks have steadily increased their gold reserves. And in 2020, 4. Gold prices soared over 25%. Gold is simple. You buy it, you own it, you control it. Over $2 billion in precious metal sales. Noble Gold Investments has helped thousands of investors diversify their portfolios with gold, IRAs and physical gold. And now, when you open a qualified account, Noble Gold will gift you 5 ounce silver America the Beautiful coins as a thank you. Don't wait for the next downturn to catch you off guard. Visit noblegold investments.com today and see how easy it is to incorporate gold into your investment strategy. That is noblegold investments.com noblegold investments.com okay, let's get to a shorter piece of tape here of our sit down with Gavin Newsom. Let's go this. Let's go. Let's go to this one. This is a little more fun. One play cut 182.
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Unknown Speaker
But it's equally insane that people are boycotting Bud Light. I mean, how is that not called.
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Gavin Newsom
I don't drink, but Yeah, I mean, like.
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Unknown Speaker
You don't drink at all.
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Gavin Newsom
I mean.
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Unknown Speaker
No. By the way, I'm just. That's interesting.
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Gavin Newsom
Yeah.
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Unknown Speaker
You don't. Never have.
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Charlie Kirk
I have.
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Gavin Newsom
Yeah.
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Charlie Kirk
A couple years.
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Unknown Speaker
What happened a couple years ago? You stopped.
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Gavin Newsom
What? You.
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Unknown Speaker
Why'd you stop?
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Gavin Newsom
I just wanted to be more successful.
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Unknown Speaker
I love that. What were you drinking?
- [30:44]
Gavin Newsom
Napa Valley wine.
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Unknown Speaker
Oh, Jesus Christ. Here we go, right? Are we gonna get a little.
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Charlie Kirk
My Lord and Savior in vain.
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Unknown Speaker
By the way, forgive me. I free. I deeply respect. By the way. Do respect your faith.
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Gavin Newsom
I'm serious.
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Charlie Kirk
Like the fourth time.
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Gavin Newsom
I mean, come on.
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Unknown Speaker
Come on.
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Charlie Kirk
There. There's a contemplation of how many times he used our Lord and savior name. I kept telling him to stop and he kept on doing it. Let's go to more. There's so much here. The one I want to get into is Prop 16. So Prop 16 is one of the most radical things that has ever been proposed in the history of the state of California. He was not prepared to be able to defend this. And he tried to weasel out of it, saying, oh, I don't know the details of it. This would have made racial discrimination legal in the state of California. And the voters of California overwhelmingly rejected it. He knew. I got him on, finally, a California detail in 2020. I got him on one California detail. He was not prepared for Prop 16. Kudos to Blake for pulling this one out. And it wasn't like a small thing. This was a major racial reckoning ballot referendum in the middle of 2020 that he endorsed, if you want to see kind of what he believes and why he believes it. He was not prepared for this one. He was of course prepared for wildfires and he was prepared for homelessness. He's got all those little talking points for that Prop 16.
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Unknown Speaker
Whoop.
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Charlie Kirk
Little bit off edge there. Play cut 187.
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Unknown Speaker
By the way. You're talking to someone who's never supported the defundant. I know, but always explicit.
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Gavin Newsom
But. But one sec. You did support Prop 16 in 2020, which would have legalized racial segregation, racial prejudice. Right. Prop 16 literally would.
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Unknown Speaker
And it got to go back to my.
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Charlie Kirk
No, you know 16.
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Unknown Speaker
I taught 960 SAT. So a little.
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Gavin Newsom
You're the governor of the largest state in the country. No, no, no. I saw your debate against Desantis. You're good at this stuff. You know what? I'm. Prop 16 would have had legalized racial prejudice, which got defeated by 16 points despite all the institutions. So you're asking me what did wokeism look like when California, when all the institutions, yourself included, with all due respect, embraced this insane ballot measure. Guess what even the people of California didn't want?
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah, I've been a bit.
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Gavin Newsom
Racial. Racial discrimination.
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Unknown Speaker
California since 1996 has had Prop 209.
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Gavin Newsom
There was, you know, city council meetings where they said the white people aren't allowed here. Right.
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Unknown Speaker
And what's not good, it's not good.
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Gavin Newsom
And so what that ends up happen. What ends up happening is a broader question of sensible, not racist suburban moms that are like, wait a second, I have a 8 year old white son. Are you trying to say he's a racist?
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
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Gavin Newsom
And it creates a backlash that then bubbles up. Right?
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Unknown Speaker
I appreciate. Appreciate the perspective.
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Gavin Newsom
Yeah.
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Charlie Kirk
He knows what Prop 16 is. For the record. He knows exactly what it is. I got to go look at my notes. Let's go to this one here. 179. More fun.
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Gavin Newsom
You're talking about your. Your whining and dining at French Laundry.
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Unknown Speaker
Yes, I was talking about the importance of. Of. Of never. Well, I can't help you with a reservation.
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Gavin Newsom
I get such a whole shtick. I gotta be honest.
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Unknown Speaker
Very nice, by the way. We couldn't have this conversation with that conversation. Dumbest bonehead move my life, okay? Own it. Move on, grow up. And I'm.
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Gavin Newsom
You talking to yourself?
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Unknown Speaker
Me talking to myself. I'm just. Look, I'm staring right you in the eyes as I say that. Just to get your reaction.
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Charlie Kirk
Here's the Gigi Ping clip. The French Laundry when we can go on at length 183.
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Gavin Newsom
Why is it you were Able to clean it up for Gigi Ping.
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Unknown Speaker
Guys. That was the dumbest thing I've ever heard, by the way. You guys weaponize that. I saw that 25 things. That was. You know what? I will happily, happily revert back to your. Can I point as in this case, weaponized. Can I get this case?
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Gavin Newsom
Can I weaponized? Can I get the gp? It was ridiculous.
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Unknown Speaker
Give me a break.
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Gavin Newsom
With all due respect, I saw a beautiful picture of San Francisco that looked like Singapore, by the way. And then Gigi Ping leaves and the walking dead come out, by the way.
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Unknown Speaker
It was. Had dozens and dozens of foreign leaders and California. California is not San Francisco. But I am the governor of California, the mayor of California.
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Charlie Kirk
You were the mayor, But I just.
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Gavin Newsom
Want to say, why is the mayor. We have to clean it up. But you have to admit it's emblematic of something that if enough important people show up, it can get clean. So why not make it clean all the time?
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Charlie Kirk
That one I was proud of, which is exactly right. If enough important people show up, San Francisco can be clean. Homelessness is a choice. It's not weaponized. We're not. We're not trying to go after marginalized communities. All these talking points now. Weaponized. Like when a homeless bum weaponizes a baseball bat to rob someone's car in San Francisco. I like that tape that we just played. Ryan and Andrew. We should tweet that one next. I thought that was a good one.
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Gavin Newsom
I thought that was a good.
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Charlie Kirk
And it ended nicely. I thought that was good. If enough important people show up to San Francisco, you can have clean streets, but you can't have clean streets if communist dictators don't show up. To listen to the entire conversation of Gavin Newsom and I will continue to post it here. He has it on his podcast page as well. I will say everything they said they were gonna do, they fulfilled. They didn't edit any of it. They gave us the video footage. So thank you to them and their team to do that. They were honest brokers, so that deserves recognition. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us. As always, freedomarliekirk.com thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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Unknown Speaker
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Charlie Kirk
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