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Andrew Colvitt
Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Andrew Colvitt in for the one and only Charlie Kirk. President Trump calls his first cabinet meeting, followed by an amazing press conference. We have Chip Roy to break down the newest information out of the House budget fights. And I analyze what we see in that press conference from President Trump. Absolutely phenomenal stuff. Every time he holds a press conference, every time he jockeys with the press, it's something to marvel at and to analyze. There's much to discuss. Please, if this show means something to you, consider becoming a member@members.charliekirk.com Also check out charliekirkstore.com for our newest merch. Lots of new stuff there. Our team is just doing a phenomenal job. So that's members.charliekirk.com be a member, where you actually get some discounts to our merch, which you can find@charliekirkstore.com Buckle up. Here we go.
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Donald Trump
Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
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Chip Roy
I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
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Donald Trump
I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point usa.
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Charlie Kirk
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Andrew Colvitt
Everybody. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Andrew Colvett in for the one and only Charlie Kirk, who's on assignment today. Honored to be with you in the Phoenix studio live across the nation, President Trump has just convened his first cabinet meeting. He's been talking about the border, about doge. It's ongoing right now, so we're going to toss right to it to check in with it.
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Donald Trump
The Wharton School of Finance, they go to Yale, they go to all great schools and they graduate number one in their class. And they made job offers, but the offer is immediately rescinded because you have no idea whether or not that person can stay in the country. I want to be able to have that person stay in the country, these companies can go and buy a gold card and they can use it as a matter of recruitment. At the same time, the company is using that money to pay down debt. We're going to, we're going to pay down a lot of debt with that. And I think the gold card is going to be used by, not only for that, they'll be used by companies. I mean, I could see Apple. I've spoken with Tim Cook and by the way, he's going to make a $500 billion investment in the country only because of the results of the election and I think because of tariffs, he's going to want to be in the country because of tariffs. Because if you're in the country, there is no tariff. If you're out of the country, you've got to pay tariffs. And that's going to be a great investment, I think that he's making. I know it's going to be a great investment, but we have to be able to get people in the country and we want people that are productive people. And I will tell you, the people that can pay 5 million, they're going to create jobs. They're going to spend a lot of money on jobs. They're going to have to pay taxes on that too. So they're going to be hiring people, they're going to be bringing people in and companies in. And I don't know, maybe it will sell like crazy. I happen to think it's going to sell like crazy. It's a bargain, but we'll know fairly soon. I think Howard and Scott, a few of you really are responsible for it. But Howard, if you want to discuss that for a couple of minutes, I think I'd like to have you. I think it's going to be a very successful program. This is Commerce.
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Scott
So the EB5 program, which has been around for many years, had investment of a million dollars into projects in America. And those projects were often suspect. They didn't really work out. There wasn't any oversight of it. And so for a million dollar investment, you got a visa and then you came into the country and ended up with a green card. So it was poorly overseen, poorly executed. Then you had a border open where millions of people came through. So the idea is we will have a proper business. We will modify the EB5 agreement. Christy and I are working on it together. For $5 million, they'll get a license from the Department of Commerce, then they'll make a proper investment on the EB5.
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Donald Trump
Right.
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Scott
And we think Scott And I will design the EB5 investment model, because Scott and I are the best people together to do that. So this is joint. This is exactly the Trump administration. We all work together. We work it out to be the best. And if we sell, just remember 200,000, there's a line for EB5 of 250,000. Right now. 200,000 of these gold green cards is $1 trillion to pay down our debt. And that's why the president is doing it, because we are going to balance this budget and we are going to pay off the debt under President Trump.
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Press Secretary
President, you've been very clear in saying that as long as you're president, Iran will never get a nuclear weapon.
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Donald Trump
That's true.
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Press Secretary
Is it also your policy that as long as you're president, China will never take. Take Taiwan by force?
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Donald Trump
I never comment on that. I don't comment on anything because I don't want to ever put myself in that position. And if I said it, I certainly wouldn't be saying it to you. I'd be saying it to other people, maybe people around this table and very specific people around this table. So I don't want to put myself in that position. But I can tell you what. I have a great relationship with President Xi. I've had a great relationship with him. We want them to come in and invest. I see so many things saying that we don't want China in this country. That's not right. We want them to invest in the United States. That's good. That's a lot of money coming in. And we'll invest in China. We'll do things with China. The relationship we'll have with China would be a very good one. I see all of these phony reports that we don't want their money. We don't want anything to do with them. That's wrong. We're going to have a good relationship with China, but they won't be able to take advantage of us. What they did to Biden was he didn't know what was happening. He didn't know what he was doing. The administration didn't know what they were doing. It was very sad to watch. But we're going to have a good relationship with China and Russia and Ukraine and the Middle East. We're doing things that, look, when I left, we had no wars. We had defeated ISIS totally. We had no inflation. We didn't have the Afghanistan withdrawal or the worst withdrawal anybody's ever seen. I think that's one of the reasons that President Putin looked at that. He said, wow, these guys are a paper tiger. Look at. We're no paper tiger. Don't forget, we got rid of ISIS in three weeks. People said it would take five years. We did it because when I came in, I let them do what they had to do. And the man that headed that operation is now going to be your chairman, right? Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
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Charlie Kirk
Yes, sir.
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Donald Trump
And Raisin Cain. I liked him right from the beginning. As soon as I heard his name, I said, that's my guy.
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Scott
Okay.
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Donald Trump
Any other questions?
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Reporter
Decreases in crossings at the border for you to continue the pause on tariffs against Mexico and Canada.
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Donald Trump
And if not, I'm not stopping the tariffs, no. Millions of people have died because of the fentanyl that comes over the border.
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Reporter
We had the 90% drop in border crossings though, this last month compared to about a year ago.
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Donald Trump
Yeah, they've been good, but that's also due to us. Mostly due to us. It's right now very hard to come through the border, but the. Look, the damage has been done. We've lost millions of people due to fentanyl. It comes mostly from China, but it comes through Mexico and it comes through Canada. And I have to tell you that, you know, on April 2nd. I was going to do it on April 1st, but I'm a little bit superstitious. I made it April 2nd. The tariffs go on. Not all of them, but a lot of them. And I think you're going to see something that's going to be amazing. We've been taken advantage of as a country for a long period of time. We've been. We've been tariffed, but we didn't tariff. Now, I did when I was here. I tariffed. We took in $700 billion from China. 700 billion. Not one president in the history of our country took in 10 cents from China. @ the same time, China respected us. Now, when Covid came in, that was a different deal. I used to call it the China virus. I guess I can call it the China virus again, but, you know, it's an accurate term. But I won't do that out of respect to China. Mr.
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Reporter
Gave a statement.
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Donald Trump
On Gaza.
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Press Member
I just wondered if there's any progress.
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Donald Trump
Towards a second phase of the ceasefire. Well, I'm very disappointed when I see 4. Four bodies came in today. These are young people. Young people don't die, okay? Young people don't die. These are young people. Four bodies came in today. They think they're doing us a favor by sending us bodies. So look, that's a decision that has to be Made by Israel, by Bibi. But Israel has to make that decision. We got a lot of hostages back. But it's very sad what happened to those people. I mean, you had a young lady with her hand practically blown off. You know why it blew up? Because she put up her hand to try and stop a bullet that was coming her way, and it hit her hand and blew off her fingers. Big part of her hand. This. This is a vicious group of people. And Israel is going to have to decide what they're doing. Phase one is going to be ending. Think of it. Today they sent in four bodies. Bodies.
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Charlie Kirk
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Andrew Colvitt
President Trump has convened his first cabinet meeting. He is currently taking questions from the press, but so far he's talked about the gold card, which would be sort of like a green card, plus selling it for $5 million sold to companies and rich individuals with a pathway to citizenship. Apparently, EB5 has 250,000 people on the wait list, which requires something like a million dollars of investment in the country. But it's poorly supervised and regulated. Talking about balancing the budget, talking about rare earth minerals in Ukraine, talking about polling of how many Americans think the country is on the right track versus the wrong track. Getting questions about Taiwan, Gaza and more. It's ongoing, so we're going to go ahead and throw back to that.
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Donald Trump
Fired or relieved of duty? Well, that's a great idea. As far I'm not going to tell this man what to do. But I will say that if I had his place, I'd fire every single one of them. Pete, that's a very good question.
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Press Member
Well, it's a question we've thought a lot about. We're doing a complete review of every single aspect of what happened with the botched withdrawal of Afghanistan and plan to have full accountability. It's one of the first things we announced at the Defense Department. For that reason, sir, certainly General Raisin Cain, who's on his way in, was not a part of that. Instead was a part of leading the effort against ISIS by untying the hands of war fighters and finishing the job properly and then bringing our troops home. So we're taking a very different view, obviously, than the previous administration, and there will be full accountability.
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Donald Trump
I don't see big promotions in that group, and I think they're going to be largely gone. I know the man on my left. I think they're going to be largely gone. That was a horrible display. And, you know, I've dealt with the parents and the family of the 13 that were killed, but, you know, nobody ever talks about the 40 that were so badly hurt with the arms and the legs and the face and the whole thing, the missing arms and legs. It was so terrible the way that was handled. And it should have been gone through Bagram, we have a big base with big fences and nobody can get in. And you have, you know, hundreds of acres instead of a little local airport where the whole place went crazy. That was so badly handled. And I would think that most of those people are going to be gone. Are we going to take Bagham back? So I'll tell you what has bothered me very much. Very, very much. We give billions of dollars to Afghanistan. Nobody knows that. Nobody knew that. Do you know we give billions of dollars to Afghanistan, and yet we left behind all of that equipment, which wouldn't have happened. You know, we were getting out under me. I'm the one that got it down to 5,000 people. We were going to get out, but we keep Bagram not because of Afghanistan, but because of China, because it's exactly one hour away from where China makes its nuclear missiles. So they were going to keep Bagram. We were going to keep a small force on Bagram. We're going to have Bagram Air Base, one of the biggest air bases in the world, One of the biggest runways, one of the most powerful runways in the sense that it was very heavy concrete and steel. You could carry about anything. You could land Anything on those runways, we gave it up. And you know who's occupying it right now? China. China. Biden gave it up. So we're going to keep that and we're going to have a withdrawal and we're going to take our equipment. We're going to do it properly, we're going to do it very. We're going to keep the equipment. Well, they ran out. It was what happened. There was a, in fact, you know, in all fairness to Putin, when he saw that, he said, well, this is our time to go and go into Ukraine, I guess, because, because it was. The timing seemed to be about right. But we send them billions of dollars in aid, which nobody knows. If they, if the American public knew that, they know it now. And if we're doing that, I think they should give our equipment back. And I told Pete to study that. But we left billions, tens of billions of dollars worth of equipment behind brand new trucks. You see them display it every year on their little roadway, someplace where they have a road and they drive the, you know, waving the flag and talking about America. Beautiful equipment. That's all. I mean, the top of the line stuff, brand new stuff, now it's getting older. But you know what we're going to pay them. I think we should get a lot of that equipment back. You know that Afghanistan is one of the biggest sellers of military equipment in the world. You know why they're selling the equipment that we left. We're first. They were second or third. Can you believe it? They're selling 777,000 rifles, 70,000 armor plated. Many of them were armor plated trucks and vehicles. 70,000. If you think of a used car lot, the biggest one in the country, I would say, J.D. if somebody had 500 cars, that would be a lot. This is 70,000 vehicles we had there. And we left it for them. I think we should get it back.
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Reporter
Mr. President, the spending bill that passed last night aims to cut $2 trillion. Can you guarantee that Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security will not be touched?
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Donald Trump
Yeah, I mean, I have said it so many times. You shouldn't be asking me that question. Okay, this will not be read my lips. It won't be read my lips anymore. We're not going to touch.
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Press Secretary
Part of your mission has been to restore executive control over the executive branch. Is it your view of your authority that you have the power to call up any one of or all of the people seated at this table and issue orders that they're bound to follow?
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Donald Trump
Oh, yeah, they'll follow the Orders. Yes, they will.
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Press Secretary
No exceptions.
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Donald Trump
No exceptions. Well, let's see, let me think. Oh, yeah, yeah. She'll have an exception, of course. No exceptions. You know that.
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Reporter
Mr. President, can you clarify the Canada, Mexico tariffs?
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Donald Trump
You had put that 30 day pause, but you just referred to 25%. When does it go into effect? April 2nd.
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Chip Roy
April 2nd.
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Donald Trump
For Canada, Mexico. Correct. And for everything?
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Scott
Well, we have the fentanyl related is a pause. If they can prove to the President they've done an excellent job, that's what they first do in 30 days. And the overall is April 2nd. So the big transaction is April 2nd. But the fentanyl related things, they're working hard on the border. At the end of that 30 days, they have to prove to the President that they've satisfied him to that regard.
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Donald Trump
If they have, he'll give them a.
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Scott
Pause or he won't.
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Donald Trump
We lose 300,000 people a year to fentanyl. Not 100, not 95, not 60 like you read. You know, you've been reading it for years. We lost, in my opinion, over the last couple of years, on average, maybe close to 300,000 people dead. And the families are ruined. You know, when they lose a daughter, when they lose a son, the families are never the same. You're never going to be the same. So you're talking about a million people. But when the daughters die, I see it. Daughters die and the sons die because of fentanyl. And in some cases I don't even know they're taking it, they're buying something else and it's laced with fentanyl and.
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Scott
They end up dying.
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Donald Trump
And I've known many people who've lost children to fentanyl and for other reasons, but to fentanyl is such a big killer. And those people are never the same people. I mean, I've seen people that for the rest of their lives, they're not the same people. They're so different, it's not even believable. Dynamic people, happy people that are. They die a miserable death. And that's because of the crap that comes in through China and through Mexico and through Canada comes. A lot of it comes through Canada. Canada. Look, we support Canada $200 billion a year in subsidies one way or the other. We let them make millions of cars and we let them send us lumber. We don't need their lumber. We're going to free up our lumber. Lee's going to do that. Head of Environmental we're going to free up our lumber. We have the best lumber there is. We don't need their lumber. What do we need their lumber for? When you look at the. We subsidize them $200 billion a year. Without us, Canada can't make it. You know, Canada relies on us 95%. We rely on them 4%, big difference. And I say Canada should be our 51st state. There's no tariffs, no nothing. And I say that we give them military protection. They have a very small military. They spend very little money on military. On NATO. They're just about last in terms of payment because they say, why should we spend on military? That's a tremendous cost. Most nations can afford to even think about it. Why should we spend on military? The United States protects us. And I would say that's largely true. We protect Canada, but it's not fair. It's not fair that they're not paying their way. And if they had to pay their way, they couldn't exist. When I spoke to. Let's call it the Prime Minister rather than the governor, but when I spoke to him, I said, why are we giving you $200 billion a year? He was unable to answer the question. I said, why are we letting you make millions of cars and send them in? He was unable to answer the question. Justin Trudeau, nice guy. I think he's a very good guy. I call him Governor Trudeau. He should be governor. Because the fact is that if we don't give them cars, we don't have to give them cars. The tariffs will make it impossible for them to sell cars into the United States. The tariffs will make it impossible for them to sell lumber or anything else into the United States. And all I'm asking to do is break even or lose a little bit, but not lose $200 billion. And we love Canada. I love Canada. I love the people of Canada, and. But honestly, it's not fair for us to be supporting Canada. And if we don't support them, they don't subsist as a nation. Okay. On the EU tariffs.
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Charlie Kirk
Mr. President, have you made a decision.
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Andrew Colvitt
On what level you will seek on.
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Chip Roy
Tariffs on the European, European Union?
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Donald Trump
We have made a decision. We'll be announcing it very soon, and it'll be 25%, generally speaking, and that'll be on cars and all of the things. And European Union is a different case than Canada. Different kind of case. They've really taken advantage of us in a different way. They don't accept our cars.
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Charlie Kirk
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Andrew Colvitt
President Trump is a tour de force. He's doing a phenomenal job and it's just amazing. There was some graphic going out this morning where he's taken over 1,000 questions from the press at this time in Joe Biden's presidency. It was like barely scratching in the dozens of questions. So I'll get that exact number for you. But it is very shocking how President Trump is so adept at navigating the media and second term, too. He's just got this confidence about him. It's very calm. But without further ado, I want to bring in Truly. Oh, there it is. Over 1009 questions for Trump, 141 for Biden. Pretty remarkable within the first month. And then, as you know, Biden went off a cliff as he declined steadily during his tenure in office. Okay, without further ado, I want to bring in Representative Chip Roy. There was a lot of action on the House floor last night. Congressman Roy, thank you so much for making the time here. You are one of the leaders on this, what I call fiscal sanity, reining in this addiction to spending within the House. Congressman, genuinely for Americans all across the country, thank you for being such a loud voice on this. Tell us what happened last night. Bring us up to speed. There was a lot of, you know, theater last night. Tell us what happened.
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Chip Roy
Yeah, first of all, great to be on. Great to be on the show. And, yeah, proud to get out there and try to fight for some level of fiscal sanity. I would tell you that I think what we passed last night out of the House of Representatives was a very small step, but an important step in the right direction. What we did and what we passed out of the Budget Committee, on which I serve, and the Rules Committee, on which I serve, and then the House floor is we set a floor of spending restraint, of spending reductions. Now, let me be very clear. This is Washington speak. This is actually reductions and increases. We are not yet to the point where we've embraced the, you know, the need to have the cuts that reduce the spending. Doge is doing that. We need to in Congress. What we passed yesterday was a reduction in increases in spending of about one and a half trillion dollars a floor. We can go higher. We should. So we actually get the cuts. But then we set that floor in place and we tied that to the tax policy. We tied that to extending President Trump's tax cuts and then being able to provide additional tax relief. But we put them together so that we can basically be responsible to ensure deficits will go down. We're not where we need to be yet, but it was a step. When you pass the budget, now the Senate has to do it. Once we get those aligned, then we have to do the actual work of reconciliation, where we do all of the votes on the specific measures, the tax policy and the spending. My requirement to my colleagues is we must reduce deficits, we must bring down spending, and we've got to embrace Doge and the discretionary side and make sure that we deliver reduced deficits. This was a step forward, and the drama was there were a few of my colleagues, mostly on the right flank, who wanted more. And you know what? I did, too. But I had already basically given my word in order to move this through committee to get the floor in the spending restraint and the tie to tax policy. So a few others fought for some more good things. I think we'll get some good results out of Victoria and Warren Davidson and others that demanded more spending restraint.
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Andrew Colvitt
Okay, so you got to the heart of the matter where a lot of people talk about spending cuts, but what they really mean is reductions in the growth of spending. Now, we've heard a lot of talk about getting budgets back to pre Covid levels on a very fundamental level. Why is that? Not every Republican in Congress. First instinct. I mean, the budget expanded. What happened to that money? Where did it go? Why can we not get back to the four or five trillion dollars a year spending? Just educate our audience in a very Washington way. Why can we not just simply say, hey, we didn't need that money? You know, the last couple years we were happy with 4 1/2, $5 trillion worth of spending. Why can't we just Go back.
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Chip Roy
Yeah. Well, there's two reasons. One, members of Congress don't have the courage and two, Doge hasn't eliminated as many things that we need to cut yet that I think we're going to be able to cut. And I think that's going to happen. A lot of these things are things we know, but until Doge puts it out there, it's harder to get some of my friends in Congress to have the courage to go cut. So what does this mean? You pointed out so for the average viewer out there, and I think Charlie's talked about this too. Pre Covid, we were spending about $4.5 trillion this year. We're at 7 trillion. Now, let me put in context what we passed last night. We passed a bill that will simply reduce the increase in spending by about 150 to $200 billion a year. That is compared to a $7 trillion current spending. At the end of the 10 year budget window, we will have spent $84 trillion. We will have taken in about 60 something trillion dollars for a rough increase in the deficit and more debt of $20 trillion. I'm not painting a great picture yet, am I?
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Andrew Colvitt
No.
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Chip Roy
I had very serious reservations about moving this bill. But here's why it was important. It set the stage with a floor of spending restraint. It opened the door to reforming Medicaid, which we must do because it is currently being used to scam taxpayers to give money to able bodied Americans and illegal aliens at the expense of those who need it the most. We need to reform it. My colleagues who are afraid of that are wrong. And we need to hold our colleagues accountable and discretionary to take the Doge cuts like USAID and implement them. Let me remind you, Eli Crane, my conservative friend from Arizona, offered an amendment because all of us knew, all of us conservatives knew that USAID was bad. He offered an amendment to cut it by 50%. Republicans voted for it. 102 Republicans voted for it. 114 Republicans voted against it. That was in the fall of 23 because of Doge. I think that vote today would be different. But this is what we're up against. I'm answering your question in a long form. That's why it's a problem. We have two and a half. You asked why it went up. Part of that's inflation because of the ridiculous policies under Biden, the energy policies, the big spending. And then it's the spending. And all of that raised it from 4 1/2 to 7 trillion. Keep in mind the total spend in 1987 was a trillion dollars. It was 4.5 trillion. In 2019, it's already up to 7 trillion. We've got to act. The Senate's going to have to stand up, work with us to actually embrace additional spending restraint.
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Andrew Colvitt
Yeah. And I think you hit on a really important piece here. This is the Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security piece of it, the entitlements piece of it, which is considered political poison for anybody to try reforming it. Right. And I know we're gonna try and focus on the waste, fraud and abuse that is certainly in those programs. Just moments ago, President Trump commented on this. Let's go ahead and play. Cup 181.
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Reporter
Last night aims to cut $2 trillion.
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Donald Trump
Right.
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Reporter
Can you guarantee that Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security will not be touched?
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Donald Trump
Yeah, I mean, I have said it so many times. You shouldn't be asking me that question. Okay. This will not be read my lips. It won't be read my lips anymore. We're not going to touch it now. We are going to look for fraud. I'm sure you're okay with that. Like people that shouldn't be off, people that are illegal aliens and others, criminals in many cases. And that's with Social Security. We have a lot of people. You see that immediately when you see people that are 200 years old that are being sent checks for Social Security. Some of them are actually being sent checks. So we're tracing that down. And I have a feeling that Pam is going to do a very good job with that. But you have a lot of fraud. But no, I'm not. We're not doing anything on this.
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Andrew Colvitt
So he is adamant, we're not gonna touch entitlements. I mean, I hate to put you on the spot here, Congressman, but earlier in that press conference, he said, we're gonna balance the budget. And I have to assume that he's talking about balancing the budget through rooting out waste, fraud and abuse and growth. Because can you do it? Can you balance this budget without touching entitlements?
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Chip Roy
So, first of all, we can absolutely balance the budget with a combination of all of those things. Right. The president is correct that we must have. We must have spending restraint, which I think the President has agreed, said we must have cuts that will eliminate waste, fraud and abuse. He talks about repealing the massive subsidies under the Inflation Reduction Act. Those things are absolutely true. We also need to get rid of the regulatory state that is constraining economic growth. Right. And those things that are impeding Americans being able to go produce. Well, but what I Would say to this is we have an obligation and a duty to reform Medicaid. Why? Because it was designed as a program to help those who are disabled and frankly the people who are not able bodied. Right. That's how it was designed. We have a duty to the extent tax dollars are going to be committed to that end, then we have a duty to make sure that's what it's what's done. Most Americans don't know that after Obamacare, able bodied Americans were given a higher federal matching rate, a high rate, 90%. The dollars that go from the feds to go say we're gonna go fund Medicaid, a higher rate for the able bodied expansion population on Obamacare. I think that's wrong. It is being gamed by California, it is being gamed by other states for basically to funnel money so they can get federal money while they overly expand the population. Whereas other states like Texas that didn't expand. We're not, we don't have as high of a number.
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Andrew Colvitt
Fascinating.
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Chip Roy
So we've gotta fix it. We gotta make sure that only the able bodied, that the able bodied aren't on it and that illegal aliens aren't on it. And that would be the reforms we need to put in place and we can do it.
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Andrew Colvitt
Well, I think that's smart. And by the way, I do believe there's a lot of potential for growth, revenue growth and you know, Trump's announcing this gold card for $5 million. I actually think that's kind of smart, especially if we could sort of reform some of our other broken immigration policies. I want to give you the opportunity. Congressman Roy, what happens next in this budget process? And I agree these are some big wins. Putting that floor on spending that we can go higher is key. What happens next?
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Chip Roy
Well, the Senate's gonna have to now look at our product. They've sent a version over, their version, which was a skinnier one to deal with border and defense. They're gonna look at ours, they're gonna try to figure out what they're gonna do. My guess is they're gonna try to expand the tax side of it, make them more permanent. I support that comma, however, provided they also expand the spending restraint side. We've gotta do our part. We've got to be honest, we've got to do math. And the singular objective should be to reduce deficits immediately, not based on some future promises. And our budget yesterday was only a step. It didn't get the job done. We have more work to do.
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Andrew Colvitt
Well, Congressman, I know that you are one of the good guys in there fighting. Charlie has your back, we have your back. Thank you for all your hard work you're doing there. Cut more, cut deeper. As Mr. Wonderful is telling Doge, we tell you the same thing. Thank you, sir.
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Charlie Kirk
Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here. There's a lot of excitement in Washington D.C. as we start the year, but I wanted to talk to you about something just as exciting happening outside the D.C. beltway. A revolution in the States. It's the education freedom movement. It's real, it's growing and growing because some states, as they should, are putting parents in charge of the education of their kids. Everyone knows education has the power to change a kid's life. And anyone who raised a child knows each has different needs, learning styles and God given talents. The fact is parents know their own children best, knows what's best for their development and future. Education freedom legislation puts parents, not zip codes and politicians in charge of these important family decisions. It's why I strongly support making universal education freedom a reality for every parent in every state. To find out where your state legislature stands and to make sure your voice is heard, go to educationfreedomusa.com now educationfreedomusa.com.
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Andrew Colvitt
I had a whole thing I was going to talk about judges freezing executive orders on foreign aid, on refugee resettlement and all that stuff is really important. I want to get to it at some point today if we can. But President Trump is genuinely the entrepreneur in chief. This is unlike anything that our country has seen. I would argue this is unlike anything that our country has seen even in the first Trump administration. Trump 2.0 is a different beast altogether. Yes, some of the ideas are the same. There's a consistent through line. Certainly he had the building blocks of what we're seeing now in place. But on a very real level, he's amplified he's peak of his powers and a lot of the ideologies and the ideas and the policies that were in Trump 1.0 have crystallized and they've become something more profound. I think he's got the confidence of knowing his ideas work. We talked about this with Mike Cernovich yesterday. I absolutely suggest that you go check out that conversation between Mike Cernovich and Charlie Kirk. What makes the New Right more powerful is we have a self confidence, a swagger, understanding that these aren't just pie in the sky notions about free trade versus fair trade and tariffs, about peace through strength, how to use leverage on the international stage, why America has been taken for a sucker and a piggy bank. By foreign oligarchs and even our allies in Europe and Canada and Mexico, and reversing all of those. Now, the semblance of those ideas were present, but now they're crystallized and they are fully formed. And President Trump is executing those ideas with a confidence and a swagger that we have never seen at the presidential level. So it's one thing after the other. And when you watch him take these questions from the media, he doesn't get excited, he doesn't get. You can see that it doesn't get to him. It's not getting under his skin. President Trump, his critics will say that he has thin skin and that things easily get to him. I think he doesn't like putting up with bs. I think he likes challenging and punching down when a lie is spoken out loud. And I respect that. I actually admire that quality in him. But just look at the way he handles some of these questions. Cut 183. He's talking about cutting the size of government. He says we have grown bloated and fat and disgusting. That's a pretty remarkable thing to say. Cut 183.
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Donald Trump
We're cutting down government. We're cutting down the size of government. We have to. We're bloated, we're sloppy. We have a lot of people that aren't doing their job. We have a lot of people that don't exist.
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Andrew Colvitt
He's talking about, obviously Social Security and the people that are over 200 years old still getting or at least registered. We don't know all the details. Maybe there is some database coding error. That doesn't mean they're getting money, but we're gonna find out. That's the main thing, is that we're unearthing these problems and we're gonna get to the bottom of it. Talks about the confidence in the nation. You can see he's saying this about the people of America, but he believes it internally.
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Donald Trump
Play.
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Andrew Colvitt
Cut 184.
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Donald Trump
So since the election, the confidence in our nation, including right track, wrong track, the first time it's ever happened where we were on the right track because this country has been on the wrong track for a long time. So the confidence in business, confidence in the country has reached an all time high. We have never reached levels like we are right now.
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Andrew Colvitt
We just had a conversation, amazing conversation with Rep. Chip Roy on our radio audience, and we're talking about how can you actually reduce deficits? How can you actually cut the size of government and get us back to a balanced budget? Which is a repeat theme that you will hear out of this administration. You'll hear it out of Elon Musk. You'll hear it from Charlie Kirk. How do we actually get there? And I want to say, yes, we have to deal with entitlements. There is Medicare and Medicaid reform. That needs to happen without necessarily cutting anything that's legitimate. But when you look at President Trump and the way that he sells for America, whether it's mineral rights in Ukraine or Greenland or the Panama Canal or bringing in all these investments, There was another $24 billion investment this morning that was announced. There is the potential for growth. You talk about drill, baby, drill, taking the regulations off this economy and releasing, as some might say, the animal spirits of the economy. And I know, I don't mean that in a pagan way. I mean that in just sort of a masculine unleashing of the energies of the producer class of this country that is actually making things and building things, investing in the economy. I wouldn't bet against President Trump from being able to grow this economy at tremendous levels and to bring in extra revenue to actually balance this budget. And hey, you can always buy a five million dollar gold card. Help us get there. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Talk to you soon.
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Donald Trump
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