The Charlie Kirk Show – FLASH AUDIT UPDATE: Dissecting Fulton County Fraud & Previewing Maricopa Madness
Date: September 23, 2021
Participants: Host Charlie Kirk (A), Guest Heather Mullins (B), investigative reporter with Real America’s Voice News
Episode Overview
This episode is a “flash audit update” focusing on alleged voter fraud and ongoing election integrity investigations in Fulton County, Georgia, with a preview of the forthcoming Maricopa County (Arizona) audit. Charlie is joined by Heather Mullins, who offers first-hand reporting and analysis of lawsuits, new evidence, and the broader implications of these controversial election audits. The episode is aimed at listeners who are interested in perceived 2020 election irregularities and what might happen next in Georgia and Arizona.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Georgia’s Fulton County Audit Lawsuit
Status & Background
- A group called Voter GA filed a lawsuit to “unseal and intrinsically analyze” absentee and mail-in ballots in Fulton County. These are the same ballots featured in the viral State Farm Arena video showing ballots being scanned late at night (04:11).
- The judge unsealed the ballots, and plaintiffs received digital ballot images but found their low resolution inadequate for forensic analysis. Experts requested higher-resolution rescans, a process complicated by the Secretary of State’s resistance, citing felony concerns over handling ballots.
- The judge ordered authorized officials to rescan at higher resolution. On the latest hearing, the court paused to allow the Georgia Secretary of State and Bureau of Investigation 20 days to provide any relevant investigation reports. The suit is set to return on November 15 (06:59).
Red Flags & Concerns
- “All that we’re asking to do in this next step in this lawsuit is literally rescan ballots that we already have images of. So why is Fulton County election officials fighting so hard to keep us from simply having higher resolution pictures of the exact same ballots?” – Heather (07:08)
- The hiring of a high-profile criminal defense attorney for a civil lawsuit was also flagged as suspicious.
2. Secretary of State’s Role & Changing Narratives
- Brad Raffensperger, Georgia’s Secretary of State, has changed positions several times, initially claiming no fraud was detected, but later suggesting Fulton County acted improperly (08:12).
“He’s changed his story, and I wouldn’t trust a word out of his mouth.” – Heather (08:12)
3. Mobile Data & Ballot Trafficking Investigation
- Heather reports on “True the Vote,” an organization that’s been purchasing mobile location data to connect individuals moving between multiple ballot dropboxes (so-called “ballot trafficking”) (11:36).
- True the Vote has allegedly identified 242 individuals visiting an average of 23 dropboxes each during the early voting period—actions described as illegal ballot harvesting under Georgia law.
- “They actually have video of a woman pulling ballots out of a backpack and stuffing them into a Dropbox… They were also trying to collect all this data, video footage, etc., and not draw attention to it… But they are 100%—I’ve seen some of this footage.” – Heather (13:47)
- The investigation includes 10 trillion cell pings and over 27 terabytes of data, being analyzed with AI tools (14:26).
4. Preview of Arizona (Maricopa) Audit
Upcoming Audit Hearing
- A hearing is scheduled for Friday at 1 pm Arizona time, previewing findings from the Maricopa audit (15:22).
Issue of Routers & Missing Data
- Audit teams requested access to routers and admin passwords to verify the integrity of election systems (15:22).
- Before systems were handed to auditors, someone with admin credentials made 37,000 blank password entries, erasing key data from the relevant period. Only eight administrator accounts existed, all sharing a password—called out as a major cybersecurity lapse (17:36).
“Whoever did it did it with the intention of deleting that information that they would have need to look at, you know what I mean? Because by making those 37,000 times…” – Heather (17:36)
The Router Standoff
- Maricopa County initially refused to turn over routers, claiming they were shared with law enforcement and releasing them could compromise other investigations (21:39).
- Arizona's Attorney General threatened to withhold $700 million in funding unless the routers and other data were provided within 30 days; a compromise was pending at episode time (22:13).
“The AG did a great job in withholding that money because this is something the American people deserve to have answers for.” – Heather (22:13)
Expected Audit Report Revelations
- Issues of improperly processed duplicate ballots, missing serial numbers, and general breakdowns in established policies are anticipated (19:44).
5. Implications: The “Decertification” Question
- Charlie asks about the possibility and precedent for decertifying the 2020 election results. Legal consensus is unclear (25:46).
- Heather highlights broken chain of custody in Georgia, citing 40,000–60,000 ballots with mishandled documentation and up to 16,000 ballots lacking timestamps (25:46).
“There’s so much sloppiness that occurred in this past election that, you know, I’m not 100% sure if there’s anything we can do about getting, you know, Trump back in office or decertifying… But… we need to get to the truth of what happened so that we can prevent it from happening again.” – Heather (26:49)
6. Ideas for Election Reform
- Heather calls for:
- Voting ID requirements
- Limits on private money (e.g., Mark Zuckerberg’s foundation) in elections
- Transparency around contractors like Dominion
- American citizenship requirements for all key election staff (mentioning a Dominion technician in Fulton County who is a Nigerian citizen, referring to Dominic Alamo) (27:45).
“The Dominion rep that oversaw the largest city in Georgia’s election is a Nigerian citizen… We should have to be American citizens to run our election.” – Heather (28:14)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “All that we’re asking to do... is literally rescan ballots that we already have images of. So why is Fulton County fighting so hard to keep us from simply having higher resolution pictures?” – Heather Mullins (07:08)
- “When you hire criminal defense attorneys in a civil case, it raises a big red flag.” – Heather Mullins (07:48)
- “I've caught [Brad Raffensperger] in several lies… I wouldn’t trust a word out of his mouth.” – Heather (08:12)
- “They actually have video of a woman pulling ballots out of a backpack and stuffing them into a Dropbox.” – Heather (13:32)
- “Someone with admin access... made a blank password entry 37,000 times... It deleted all of the information that was stored on the server from the time period of the election.” – Heather (15:22)
- “The Dominion rep that oversaw the largest city in Georgia’s election is a Nigerian citizen... we should have to be American citizens to run our election.” – Heather (28:14)
- “There’s so much sloppiness that occurred in this past election...” – Heather (26:31)
Timestamps for Important Segments
- [04:11] – Georgia’s election audit lawsuit explained; State Farm Arena ballots.
- [07:08] – Discussion of resistance to rescan ballots; “red flags.”
- [08:12] – Accusations against Brad Raffensperger regarding shifting narratives.
- [11:36] – “True the Vote” ballot trafficking investigation using geolocation and video data.
- [13:32] – Mention of video evidence of improper ballot handling.
- [14:26] – True the Vote’s findings: hundreds of ballot traffickers; data across six states.
- [15:22] – Arizona audit: router access controversy, missing machine data, admin account info.
- [17:36] – The cybersecurity lapse; all admin accounts used same password.
- [21:39] – Maricopa County’s reasons for withholding routers.
- [22:13] – Arizona AG’s funding threat to force cooperation.
- [25:46] – The question of decertification, Georgia chain of custody problems.
- [27:45] – Election reform priorities: voter ID, transparency, citizenship for contractors.
Summary
Charlie Kirk and Heather Mullins covered alleged voter fraud and ballot handling irregularities in Georgia and previewed the Maricopa audit, placing a strong emphasis on unresolved questions and calling for tighter election law enforcement and greater transparency. Heather detailed investigations into ballot dropbox activity and potential illegal voting practices using advanced data tracking. Arizona’s audit findings were previewed, highlighting technical obstacles and anticipated revelations about voting procedures and data security. Both Kirk and Mullins advocated for election reforms, particularly around identification, transparency, and national oversight of election contractors.
Useful for listeners wanting a detailed account of current claims, investigations, and grievances from the right-leaning election integrity movement – but noting the episode leans strongly into their perspective and skepticism of official narratives.
