From the Archive: Charlie on America’s Five False Faiths

Summary

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The Charlie Kirk Show

Episode: From the Archive: Charlie on America’s Five False Faiths

Date: July 26, 2026
Host: Charlie Kirk

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Charlie Kirk discusses what he calls "America's Five False Faiths"—ideologies and cultural movements that he believes are acting as replacement religions as traditional Christianity loses its cultural dominance in America. Engaging directly with church leaders and an in-person audience, Kirk connects the rise of these “fake religions” to spiritual, societal, and political shifts, framing the discussion through a biblical lens, especially Genesis 1–11. He argues these alternative faiths fill a “God-shaped hole” in the American psyche and explains why Christians must be vigilant, engaged, and courageous in response.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Updates and Motivation

[01:23–02:26]

• Charlie reflects on how fatherhood has increased his personal and civic motivation:

  "If you thought I was radical before, nothing radicalizes you like fatherhood." — Charlie Kirk [01:34]

• He frames the culture war as fundamentally about protecting children, referencing biblical narratives for context.

2. America’s Christian Heritage & the Rise of Replacement Religions

[04:49–09:10]

• Charlie asserts that many values Americans take for granted—protection of children, natural rights, private property—are rooted in Christianity.
• Declining church attendance in some areas is seen as evidence of Christianity's waning influence, with a corresponding rise in what he terms “fake religions.”
• He argues that belief in no God (atheism) is historically rare and less sustainable than belief in alternative deities or pseudo-religions.

Quote:

"There's only one true way, and that is Jesus Christ. ... The greater threat is the five fake religions that are filling the void." — Charlie Kirk [04:49]

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3. The Five False Religions

I. Earth Worship / Environmentalism

[09:10–13:10]

• Kirk frames environmentalism as earth worship, akin to ancient pagan spirituality, where nature is prioritized over humanity.
• He contends that “radical environmentalists” invert the proper divine hierarchy:

  "Nature, man, God. We are above nature and below God. ... The radical environmentalists do not believe that. They believe we are the polluters of nature." — Charlie Kirk [09:37]

• Kirk warns this stance is "inherently anti-human" and can justify population reduction or restrictions on human flourishing.

II. The Cult of Diversity / Religion of Anti-Racism

[13:10–16:37]

• Kirk describes anti-racism and diversity movements as the most dangerous and widespread “false religion.”
• He draws parallels between religious rituals (gatherings, tithing, atonement) and modern social justice practices.
• The idea of "original sin" is replaced by concepts such as innate racial guilt.
• He claims the movement is led by "white liberal suburban wine moms," not the minority groups it purportedly serves.
• The real danger: fear of being labeled ("racist," "bigot") now silences good people.

  "It is unprecedented. We have never seen so many people that know something is evil happening ... the cost is being called something they wish they would not be." — Charlie Kirk [14:30]

III. The Religion of Tolerance

[16:37–19:45]

• Kirk criticizes the overemphasis on tolerance, especially within weak Christian churches.
• Argues that biblical compassion should not equal tolerating evil:

  "Psalm 97:10, if you love God, you must hate evil. That hating evil actually shows how much you love the divine." — Charlie Kirk [16:54]

• He suggests that accommodating contemporary “mental delusions” (especially regarding gender identity) is a tyranny of the minority, contrary to Christian principles where the strong protect the weak.

IV. Worship of Power

[19:45–23:00]

• Kirk identifies a cultural trend where domination and power itself become the end goal—manifesting in both political elites and “micro-tyrants” (e.g., enforcing COVID restrictions).
• Micro-tyrants, like overzealous baristas enforcing mask mandates, find significance in petty rule enforcement:

  "The more stupid rules you have, the more stupid people you need to enforce the stupid rules." — Charlie Kirk [20:30]

• Argues that Christianity’s view of human dignity would preclude finding identity or joy in dominating others for its own sake.

V. Scientism / Idolatry of Experts

[24:01–29:10]

• The pandemic response serves as a case study in trusting selected scientists rather than scientific principles.
• Kirk distinguishes between true scientific inquiry (rooted in Christian worldview and pursuit of understanding) and the "will to dominate nature" exemplified in modern scientism:

  "The religion of scientism is that the will of I is going to dominate what the divine created." — Charlie Kirk [27:57]

• He links the push for abortion and transgender interventions as examples of humans seeking to “remake creation in our image.”

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4. Genesis 1–11 as the Antidote to the Five Religions

[29:53–36:39]

• Kirk emphasizes foundational biblical themes:
  • Purposeful creation (Genesis 1:1)
  • Human dignity and equality (Genesis 1:26–27)
  • The existence of objective morality through monotheism versus moral relativism of polytheism
  • The inherent flaw/fall of humanity and need for checks/balances in power (Genesis 11, Babel)
  • He criticizes pastors who avoid political engagement, insisting the biblical concept of politics concerns who holds power and how.

Quote:

"Genesis 1:1 should crush those five fake religions. Genesis 1:1 is the shield and the sword against those five pagan river civilization religions." — Charlie Kirk [30:30]

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5. On Christian Pessimism and Action

[40:44–44:38]

• Kirk challenges both end-times passivity and pessimistic nihilism within Christian circles.
• Argues that believing in Christ’s imminent return should spur more action, not less.
• He warns that the enemy wants believers paralyzed by discouragement and that true participants in the culture war will show evidence of “loss” for the cause.

  "My main message ... is that you could be disgusted, depressed, disgruntled at the macro, but you have zero excuse to not act boldly and courageously in the micro." — Charlie Kirk [43:40]

• Ends with a call to courage, family, church involvement, and activism despite adversity.

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Memorable Quotes & Notable Moments

• On fatherhood’s effect:

  "Nothing radicalizes you like fatherhood." — Charlie Kirk [01:34]

• On the centrality of monotheism:

  "If you have one God, there is one morality. You want to prevent man from doing what is right in his own eyes? You must restore the promise of monotheism, which is Christianity." — Charlie Kirk [32:30]

• On true action vs. pessimism:

  "If you have not lost anything significant in the last couple of years, you're a spectator and you're not in the arena." — Charlie Kirk [44:01]

• On the misapplication of tolerance:

  "You could be compassionate and loving. You should never tolerate evil. Period." — Charlie Kirk [16:43]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Introduction & fatherhood: [01:19–02:26]
• America’s Christian heritage and secularization: [04:49–09:10]
• 1st false religion – Earth worship/environmentalism: [09:10–13:10]
• 2nd – Cult of diversity/anti-racism: [13:10–16:37]
• 3rd – Religion of tolerance: [16:37–19:45]
• 4th – Worship of power: [19:45–23:00]
• 5th – Scientism/idolatry of experts: [24:01–29:10]
• Genesis 1–11 and cultural foundations: [29:53–36:39]
• Christian pessimism, activism, and hope: [40:44–44:38]

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Conclusion

Charlie Kirk offers a passionate, biblically anchored critique of modern American culture’s drift, urging Christians to recognize, understand, and courageously confront these “five false faiths.” Drawing from both history and scripture, he contends that only robust, active Christianity can provide the antidote to cultural despair, misguided ideologies, and encroaching secular power. Kirk closes with a call for boldness and engagement—“If you have not lost anything significant in the last couple of years, you’re a spectator and you’re not in the arena”—challenging every listener to assess their own role in the battle for America’s spiritual future.

Transcript

[A]

My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You gotta stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Point USA College chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA High School chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life. And I encourage you to do the same. Here I am, Lord. Use me. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of the Charlie Kirk Show, a company that specializes in gold IRAs and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble gold [e-mail] that is noblegoldinvestments.com.

[B]

Thank you, Charlie. Thank you for taking time away. You're a daddy now.

[A]

I am. Praise God.

[B]

How old is beautiful little Gigi?

[A]

Seven months.

[B]

She is seven months old and cute as a button. So beautiful. Has that. Has that. How's that impacted you?

[A]

Oh, it's. It changes everything. And if some. If you thought I was radical before, nothing radicalizes you like fatherhood. I'll tell you what.

[B]

And

[A]

what do I mean by that? It not only gives you increased purpose and increased meaning, but also, you know, in the culture fight that we're in right now, so much involves children. There's a reason for that. We could talk about that. And it's all throughout the scriptures of Evil tyrants filled with dark spirits going after the firstborn, going after children. And when you have a child of your own, it motivates you to want to win and crush these evil people more so than ever before.

[B]

Thank you. Well, thank you so much for taking time away from beautiful Erica and beautiful Gigi.

[A]

Well, I was looking forward to this for quite some time. We're also going to awaken Utah next week, which I'm really excited about that. And you know, Jurgen, both you and Leigh Ann deserve such great credit. You know, I speak. I really mean this. You're being led very well here. You are. And boldly and courageously and biblically, you really are.

[B]

You're very, very kind. Thank you. Thank you.

[A]

I mean that. It really is A time where we're seeing the separation of people that are courageous and cowards. And again, I speak all across the country and one of the common questions I get, Charlie, where do I find a pastor? I never get that question from people in San Marcos. I just don't. And we have some other good friends here, Pastor Greg Denham and some other good pastors that are fighting.

[B]

Great people, beautiful people, beautiful, magnificent warriors.

[A]

But there is something really special about what God is doing in California. I know it seems overwhelming. I know there's so much. But it's amazing when I visit some of these other states, even though they might seem freer politically, they do not have a spirit of boldness or action or community that you have at this church. You have a lot to be thankful for. You have a lot to be thankful for at this church.

[B]

Thank you. You know, the Bible says that the righteous are as bold as a lion. And you know, sadly we didn't, you know, we're seeing the righteous beginning to rise and when the righteous rise, the lion roars. I've got, got some questions. Is that okay if I, if I jump?

[A]

You could do whatever you want? Yes.

[B]

Well, you know, we're, you know, whenever the media prints something, I always believe the opposite is true right now because they're, they're freaking liars. So they tried to, they tried to print a couple of hit pieces about how Christianity is dying in America and people are leaving the church in droves. That's certainly not, not the experience from the pastors that I'm talking to. Christianity, to me is, is rising in America. But I heard you on a podcast talking about the five different religions that are seeking to replace Christianity. Can you open that up for.

[A]

Yeah. So there's. We are all inheritors of a Christian tradition, whether we like it or not, and we should be so thankful for it. Things that we take for granted that your secular non religious friends would act as if is common sense. Protection of children, for example, or natural rights. The idea of borders, the idea of private property, these all come from a biblical Christian inheritance. And so as Christianity has become less popular in America and certain churches are seeing church attendance go down, this one's increasing because you're not woke and you're biblical and you have great leaders. But in certain churches, they are seeing it go down and that's important to note that we have a God sized shaped hole in our heart and something will always seek to fill it. And so if you read the first five books of Moses, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy through a very specific lens. Understanding the context of which was written was a refutation of pagan, polytheistic river civilization. Fake religions. Fake religions are the norm. There's only one true way and that is Jesus Christ. We call that Christianity. Now the way that we teach our children, though, it's as if, oh, there's Christians, then there's non religious. This idea of not believing in God is a hyper radical kind of new phenomenon. The norm is actually believing in fake gods. And so this idea of saying I don't believe in God is very modern and it's actually not very sustainable. Atheism is a problem, but a bigger problem is somebody that creates a fake God or a fabricated version of Christianity, uses some of the worship elements, tithing, offering community atonement, promise of the afterlife, appropriates Christian promises and puts them under a fake religion that's actually much more attractive and actually will grow a lot more. This idea of convincing wide swaths of people that there is not a divine order or there isn't somebody in charge or some reason for existence actually is probably going to fall flat on its face. I'm not saying it's totally unpopular, but the greater threat is the five fake religions that are filling the void. I did a whole speech on this earlier in the week. I'm writing a long essay on it. I might even write a book on it because I really haven't heard many pastors lean into this. Because if we then acknowledge that Christianity needs to get more popular, I think we can agree with that. What are the threats up against it? Well, let's go to one that is really dominating our time. Earth worship, otherwise known as environmentalism. This is not new, by the way. So if we were to say, Charlie, can you describe God, the God of the Bible, to a layman? Someone that doesn't understand? God is many things. Here's the best way I could describe it. God is above nature, God is moral, God is personal, and God is holy. Those are four characteristics of the God of the Bible.

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[A]

you can get to know God. God is holy, not profane. Also, God is moral. God will tell you what is right and what is wrong. God makes judgments, but also God is not in nature. This was a profound moral breakthrough of Genesis, especially because prior to the Hebrews, prior to the people of Israel, prior to the beginning of the truth developing in written form, God was supposed to be found in nature. You worship the sun, you worship the mountain, you worship the river, that you go seek into nature to go find God. The. The argument made in Genesis, the truth says, no, no, that God is so powerful, he spoke nature into existence. That. That. That you do not worship nature. You worship God who created nature. That is a completely different way of viewing our existence. Now, why does this matter? The environmentalists that are really earth worshipers are doing the very same thing that gnostic hermeticists did 2000 years ago, where they say the world is about to end. About to end. And the tree, the delta smelt, the river, the cacti, they matter more than man. So there's a hierarchy, okay? Nature, man, God. We are above nature and below God. It's very important. The radical environmentalists do not believe that. They believe we are the polluters of nature. Now, one of the things that drives me nuts is when people say, well, Charlie, it is. It's a natural thing to do to. You can't prevent somebody's nature. We must understand nature. But civilization, by its definition, is us trying to restrain our nature. I'll give you a great Example, you must teach a child manners at dinner. The nature is to be rude and to burp and to belch and to the idea of manners. Where does that come from? It's kind of a silly example, I think is out of the respect for others, because of human equality, that they do not want to hear your bodily noises. They want you to act in a certain code of conduct. Now but if we were to say that nature matters, we would never have rules, customs, codes or traditions that would restrain your own, your own pre programmed way of conduct, conduct either at a dinner table or otherwise. Now the. When you say that God is above nature, this is very important. Nature is not moral, nature is not holy, and nature is not personal. If you go out in the woods, you will not find any three of those things. And so one of the fake religions, it's so attractive to young people because God did such an amazing job of creating nature. It's the closest thing they can try to find to the divine. But the way the unattractive element or the pernicious element, the evil element, is that it is inherently anti human. Because when there is a decision that needs to be made, they will say we must reduce the earth's population, we must reduce human activity to try to save nature. So that's one of five. I keep going Jurgen on that. But Earth worship is one that dominates our time. The second one that I think is probably the most dangerous and the most widespread is the religion of anti racism or the cult of diversity. This is largely, this is the most dangerous of all five in the immediate. And so how does this manifest? This manifests in a lot of different ways. Hyper focused on race, black only dormitories. Grand Valley State University, for example, Columbia University, they have black only graduation ceremonies now, Jurgen, where they do not allow whites to go to these graduation ceremonies. And what's so perplexing about the religion anti racism is that this is not being led by Hispanics or blacks. That the cleric, the people, the clergy of the religion of anti racism are white liberal suburban wine moms. And that's what's so strange about it, right? Is that this is not being driven by your average middle class black American. These are people that reject Christianity, engage in secularism, realize they're empty, find something that looks like a religion, and their meaning then is to hate themselves. And they think they can atone for it by donating to BLM or apologizing for how they look. That gives them almost a quasi religious experience. If you dive into the BLM code of conduct, they Basically have taken Christianity and they totally. They put it through a lens. They say, okay, we're still gonna meet, we're still gonna tithe, we're still gonna have offerings, we're still gonna say, you have original sin. You see, the cult of diversity and the religion of anti racism takes this idea of original sin. They just say, the original sin is not the garden. The original sin is your melanin content. The original sin is how you look. So they take all these elements of Christianity and they pervert it. And here's what's so dangerous is why I think it's the most dangerous is that it's the one that people are the least willing to fight on. If I go through the five, you'll realize that some are, wow. That this is the one that paralyzes people. And they do it through the weaponization of name calling. And more so than any other time in American history have we seen good people that are afraid to act because of a name that they might be called. It is unprecedented. We have never seen so many people that know something is evil happening around them. And the cost is being called something they wish they would not be called. Racist, bigot. Let me be very clear. Racism and bigotry is mostly coming from the left. However, if you are a racist or a bigot, I hope you guys find help with that. But you're probably not, because we have a supply and demand problem for racism and bigotry in America. We are so unbelievably not racist. When you see a hate crime hoax, most of the time it's a hoax of somebody that is actually trying to create racism out of nowhere. We are such a decent, not racist country that the incentive structure is to fake your own hate crime. So that's the second one. I'm sorry, Jurgen, you can interrupt me at any time. Okay?

[B]

I'm loving this.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

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[C]

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[A]

Well, I think it's important because pastors and Christians, you must know the religions you're competing against, right? And so anyway, that's the second one, the cult of diversity and the religion of anti racism, the third of which is a very broad one, but it applies directly to the trans thing, which is the religion of tolerance. This is one that I see. This is probably the most widespread in weakness Christian churches, right, where they say, we must be tolerant of others, that is not correct. You, you could be compassionate and loving. You should never tolerate evil. Period. You should never tolerate evil. In fact, Psalm 97:10, if you love God, you must hate evil. That hating evil actually shows how much you love the divine. The religion of tolerance gives us insane pathological ideas that are institutionalized into our culture, institutionalized into our system and our code of conduct, where good people know it's wrong and they do nothing because they say they must be tolerant. For example, Thomas, the swimmer that competes and wins a NCAA championship as a man against other women. And we say we must do nothing. Where track championship after track championship are being won by biological men competing against women. And so. And not just competing, but winning. And they're bullying them and they're antagonistic and they're narcissistic and they're cheaters, and they're all those things. And so some, you know, criticism I receive is, well, Charlie, aren't you a Christian? Don't you love that person? Of course we do. That person's made in the image of God. We should have compassion for that person. However, the question is, then, what do you do with somebody that is suffering with a mental delusion? If somebody shows up at the airplane ticket counter and says, I have an imaginary friend. I demand two seats on a plane, you would say, well, I need to charge you for two seats. No, no, no. It's my truth. It's actually, I'm a dual personality. Say, you're insane. If someone is anorexic and says, I need liposuction, you'd say, no, no, you're suffering under a mental delusion. If somebody says, I'm offended every single time I see other people eat in public. Do we stop eating in public? Do we now reaccommodate society for other people's mental struggles or issues? What we are living through is that we now have to change our customs, our code of beliefs, our behaviors. For people that are personally struggling with something that is evil, everybody that is wrong, it is the tyranny of the minority. And we see, we're seeing this all over. And so the religion of tolerance tells us that we worship this idea of tolerance because it's really, I think I'm a good person religion. When in reality you are weak, you're weak, you're weak in the side. When you see the strong that are willing to crush the weak, and that is the question of a society. Are the strong willing to use their power to protect those that don't have as much strength? Only Christianity mandates the strong to use their power to protect those that are not as powerful. That is a uniquely Christian principle. Going back to what I talked about, nature, though, if you look at nature, what does nature tell you? That the strong get stronger and the weak die. The religion of Christianity says, no, no, no, no, we stand up for the least of these in our society. We stand up for those that can't defend themselves. Okay, number four is the worship of power. This one is very dangerous. There's several examples of this, mostly in our political elite. These are people that have made it their life's purpose to dominate others. I will get to Fauci in the final one because he could qualify there, but he, he really is the archbishop of a different religion. I'm going to instead. I've talked about this religion before at this church, but I'll expand on it. I'm actually going to go more micro than macro because I could talk about James Comey and I could talk about Andy McCabe and I could talk about mayorkas and people that worship power. But a different subcategory of the population actually worship power. And all of us have experienced it. They find their purpose, their meaning, their drive in being able to terrorize others. We call them micro tyrants. So the more stupid rules you have, the more stupid people you need to enforce the stupid rules, because good people refuse to enforce stupid rules. So when during the lockdowns, during the Covidian tyranny, when we had all these rules, all of a sudden, an emergence of a new subgroup, an undercurrent we never knew existed, of people that find their religious significance.

[B]

Karen?

[A]

Yes. And in enforcing whether or not you're wearing your mask correctly, right? And these are people, Starbuck baristas, who are never ran for elected office. We've never knew them before. They've never had to really be in a position of power for any other reason except they happen to work in Starbucks. But because a silly stupid rule all of a sudden came out of nowhere. They look around, they're like, well, someone has to enforce it. We're going to have this 19 year old North African lesbian studies major from San Diego State University, have all this power to police my breathing when I'm trying to get a cold brew. And you go and you try to pick up the cold brew and your mask is a little bit down. And that person, she, whatever pronouns that person uses. Ridiculous. What's happening our society. This person gets off and is excited about enforcing the dumb rule because they become unbelievably important for the first time in their life.

[B]

That's a mic drop moment.

[A]

When if Christianity was in that person's life, that rule would not be as important because they would look at themselves as a son or, or a daughter of the divine. That rule would then be looked at completely differently. Not as a way to exert power, authority, but instead as well. That's probably a cruel way to treat another person made in the image of God, right? So the religion of power is very attractive as Christianity is not as popular.

[C]

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Okay, the fifth religion is really the religion of scientism. And that's where Fauci could be the Archbishop, he's in both the religion of power and the religion of scientism. Very important. Never was it about trusting the science, it was about trusting the scientists that they liked. Over the last couple of years, those are two completely different things. And the religion of scientism has been around for over 100 years. The entire fourth branch of government really came to be with this idea of the council of experts, that there are people that know better than you, that committees that you'll never come in touch with can meet privately and they're going to make decisions and they'll be able to get our society closer towards a utopia. This came from Woodrow Wilson. There's a long tradition here. I don't need to bore you with all the details, but we've seen how dangerous that religion of scientism is able to be enforced. But what was even more disappointing is, is not just the people that enforce it. Francis Collins, Walensky, Pfizer, AstraZeneca Moderna, Johnson and Johnson is that the religion of scientism could actually be more broadly into really kind of the idolatry of experts is another way to put it, which is the experts have told us to do this even though, you know, the rule is so silly or you know, the rule again is stupid. And again, so we live through this. And again scientists, well, actually accurate historians are going to go back in time. The ones that have any sort of, you know, courage to find the truth and they're going to be perplexed, they're going to say, wait a second, help me understand this. So you lock down all of society and then you allow people to go on airplanes and you hyper enforce the mask policy. Except of course, when they're eating or drinking, right? Because when they're eating or drinking, they, the virus is just in complete suspense in the air it stops, right? And that if, and if, when you're not eating or drinking, you have to wear the mask properly. And you could do that at 35,000ft with 350 people packed like sardines. But the restaurants are closed in Newark, New Jersey and the restaurants are closed in Los Angeles, the two cities you're flying from. But shut up and trust the science. And you really have to wonder, is it actually about science? And this is what's so important we as Christians must understand. The heritage of modern science came from Bible believing Christians. But it changed. I'm going to tell you how it changed, sir. Sir Francis Bacon invented the scientific method. Sir Isaac Newton wrote more about biblical prophecy in Isaiah than he did even about physics. So this idea of the inquiry into the natural world is a very uniquely Christian idea. Because if you believe that there is a logos, a cosmological harmony to our existence, then therefore the universe is worth exploring and understanding. Those words are very important. Remember them? Exploring and understanding. Something changed in the 1800s with the Hegelians and the German historicists where they decided to go a completely different direction. They said, we do not desire to know about nature. We desire to remake and dominate nature. That is completely different, right? That it's not as if we want to try to understand why is it that, you know, where does wind come from? Or you know, why are temperatures increase or decrease? Or you know, germ theory or how can we possibly create, you know, better resistance to viruses or antibiotics? No, no, instead they said we want to remake the creation in our image. And the religion of scientism is exactly why there is a demonic pathological fixation on both abortion and the trans issue. Both of them are the will of man exerting themselves over the creation of God. Both of them. That I get to decide who gets to live and die. That I get to decide whether or not you're a man or woman. And so the religion of scientism is not about understanding the natural world or saving lives. The religion of scientism is that the will of I is going to dominate what the divine created. And this is exactly what played out the last couple years. That's the MRNA gene altering shot. That is why they are trying to put hormone blockers in kids hands is because they're trying to make it possible in the scientific arena that you can change what was naturally put into place. And so science made a complete diversion. So I am a big fan of science if it's done under the correct presupposition, which is do we believe that there's a logos and we desire to know and understand and stand in awe and wonder of the beauty and the intricacy of what God created? Or are you going into science instead with a spirit to alter, with a spirit, with a spirit of contempt. The religion of scientism is filled with a dark spirit of I can do it better.

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Incredible, incredible, incredible.

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Charlie, sorry, I took so.

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No, are you kidding? That was just exceptional. So all five of those religions actually have their genesis, their seed in Genesis 1 to 11. You know, Nimrod was the one who wanted to dominate. He set up an empirical kind of society where men dominated men. God never created man to be dominated by other men. As someone who obviously is very, very learned and studies tell us Genesis 1:11. I know you got some wonderful thoughts on that.

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Sure. I'll we have a couple minutes before we go to Q and A. But I think it's the most important part of the Bible. I also think it should instruct every Christian politically. Genesis 1 through 11 is the whole ball game. So let me just kind of isolate a couple verses.

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Okay.

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Genesis 1:1. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. That verse means that your creation matters. There's a purpose to your existence, we're not here by accident. And that there is a God and you are not him. That's a big deal. Genesis 1:27.

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That alone would help so many people. That alone.

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Genesis 1:1 should crush those five fake religions. Genesis 1:1 is the shield and the sword against those five pagan river civilization religions.

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Now understand that those five religions are not new. They're just. They're just repackaged manifestations of a unclean spirit, a Luciferian desire of all sorts of different type of pagan river civilizations in Egypt and Mesopotamia that the Hebrews were fighting and challenging against. You have to understand this idea of monotheism. One God is so unbelievably rare in the history of fake religions. I mean, there's all these fake religions and all of a sudden monotheism comes along and God spoke it into existence. What do you mean? God's above nature. And not only that, but God chooses people not based on characteristics that we think matter beauty or how they look, but instead on moral character. God chose Noah because he was a Righteous man in his generation, the pagan river civilization of Mesopotamia said the gods would choose based on the best looking. Now, why is polytheism so dangerous, by the way? And these are all polytheistic in nature. Poly meaning many, many gods, many moralities. If you have one God, there is one morality. You want to prevent man from doing what is right in his own eyes? You must restore the promise of monotheism, which is Christianity. So Genesis 1 through 11 creates that entire moral foundation. Genesis 1:26, 1:27. What is man? If I could set every pastor down, I think I could persuade many of them. And they say, well, I don't do politics. And I'll say, well, why are you trying to not be involved in something that human beings are engaged in? And you have to ask them, anyone that has a pastor like this, ask them to define politics. They cannot define politics. Politics is so simple to define. Politics is deciding who gets power and when they get power and how they're able to use the power. That's it. Politics is a question of power in human beings. Okay, you might say, well, I don't care about that question. That is such a silly thing to say because the Bible has a lot to say about who gets power and how they get power and when they get power. In fact, the Bible says that power should be separate, that there should be checks and balances, that the people need to have consent. If only a country adopted those ideas and put them into their constitution. Which, by the way, is why the Constitution's the greatest political document ever written.

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Ever written. Ever written.

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And so let me just kind of just dwell on that a little bit more. Is that what is a human being? You can choose to answer this question, obviously, with the secular humanist way or the Christian way. The secular humanist says a human being is a mistake, a combination of cells, Darwinian evolution, roll of the dice. We happen to exist. We believe that human beings have intentionality, purpose. You're made in the image of the divine. You have a soul. Therefore, that necessitates human equality, human rights, and that government politics should not be able to crush that human being. That that human being is a reflection of the divine order, as we know. That's such an. That's a huge concept you could spend the rest of your life just mulling over and praying over. So the question of what is a human being is the most important question, because the secular humanists, all five of those fake religions, would not answer that a human being is made in the image of God. They would say that a human being is a mistake or we don't know, or that it's a mystery. So it is right there. So Genesis 1:1 and then Genesis 126 and 127, then the next question should be, okay, we know what a human being is. Are human beings naturally good? This is an unbelievably important question. If human beings are naturally good, then we must be able to explain all the evil in the world. And by the way, the secular humanists, the scientists, the earth worshipers, the cult of diversity, the anti racism folks, they explain evil not in the heart of man, not with original sin in the fall. They say that evil comes from the systems and the structures that we have inherited. Therefore we get rid of evil by getting rid of Western society and getting rid of the patriarchy and getting rid of Christianity. If you can't answer where evil comes from, then you're going to make really bad political decisions afterwards. Because they say we must tear all this stuff down and then we'll be able to usher in some form of goodness. Genesis says clearly the heart of man is flawed from birth, that we know that we are dealing with a broken raw material. Therefore we should have awe and wonder anytime we do anything right or good. In fact we should say, wow, the fact that we aren't tearing each other apart every single day is a massive moral advancement. Let's figure out how we did that.

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Christianity.

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And then finally, and Jurgen, you alluded to this. My favorite political verse of my political chapter that I wish every pastor taught correctly is Genesis 11. Genesis 11 is exactly what happens when you try to build a metro, a metropolitan centralized government to honor yourself and to not honor God as it stands said very clearly there in the people of Babel, which means God confuses by the way it they said that we are going to make a name for ourselves, that it will come and touch the heavens. Both the American Founding Fathers and our Lord do not like major cities that want to make themselves gods. The American founding Fathers believed in decentralized power. And so a pastor says, I don't believe in politics. Then why on earth would God put Genesis 11 right there? That's the final thing you read before God calls Abram. The last thing you read before that we know is recorded history. Because Genesis 1 through 11 you could debate of the exact time. We know exactly down to like 100th, like 30th year when Abram was called. And so history starts in Genesis 12 as we know it. Genesis 11 because that final reminder that God has given you the interlude, the bridge is, hey, when you build a political system, but when you build a city, you better believe that that power is not centralized. You better believe the heart of man will try to do something to terrorize others. So how does God handle it? He scatters and confuses them. He offers judgment as a way to say to us, hey, you try to build something in your own, your own way. World Economic Forum, globalism. Great, reset that. That will be scattered and that will be dishonored. That is a political teaching.

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Come on. Mic drop, mic drop, mic drop, mic drop, mic drop.

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All right, we're going to do question and answer. I got one more question before the question and answers. But we're going to line up on the sides of the stage and we're going to have Mike's. How are we going to do that? Is Samuel do and who else? And Mike Fenn, the two most handsome men in the church. Come on. It's like El Guapo. El Guapo on either side. Just, just, just one, one question on that. Just like in the days of Elijah, there were 450 prophets of Baal, 400 prophets of Asherah. The Bible says that they were fed by, by Jezebel at Jezebel's table. Meaning that these were government, pbs. These were government funded, government sustained, and they were voices. There was one voice crying out for God. 850 voices giving everything else. There was. There was an incredible pessimism. In fact, when Elijah comes to the people, he says how long are you going to falter between two opinions? They answered him, not a word. So the people were really so discouraged, they lost their voice. I know that you've been talking a little bit lately about a rise in like, almost like a pessimistic nihilism. Hopelessness of the world's gone, the evil are in control. The darkness.

[A]

What?

[B]

Give us one thought like, why should we not quit? Why should we not give up?

[A]

So, a couple 2 thoughts on this and then I do want to get to some questions. The first category are really well meaning Christians that write me emails. I have a human laboratory because I host a radio program every day. And thank you, by the way, those of you that watch on Real America's Voice and podcasting, thank you. You guys make our show possible and we work very hard and you bless me with your emails, your thoughts and your prayers. But there, there are a fair amount of emails I get sometimes hundreds a week. Charlie, Jesus is coming next Thursday. Stop all this melodrama. He's coming soon. We don't need to act anymore. And then I always respond, are you sure it's Thursday? I always respond and they don't like it. It's not, not always a fun exchange, but I read every email. When I say I read every email@freedom charliekirk.com I mean it. I don't respond every email, but I read everyone and I learned so much about humanity. You read, you read 10, 15,000 emails a week. You learn, you learn more than any pollster could ever tell you. So I have a pretty good heart kind of understanding of the heartbeat there. So it is, it is a bad theological reading. A poor theological reading is a better way to say it. Poor theological reading to say that I am not going to act, I am not going to be bold because I believe that we are in the end times. You might be right, but the day and the hour is unknown. I do believe that Jesus is coming back. But if you believe, this is what's interesting, if you believe that Jesus is coming back soon, you should have the opposite view. You should be leaning in, you should be taking terrain, you should be pouring in. You should be acting more courageously and boldly, not retreating and surrendering. Second, the second that I need to talk to is an unfortunate thing that really manifests in the last two weeks where there is just kind of this, Charlie, I don't think that my grandkids should have kids. I would not bring kids into this world. I find this to be preposterous. The great Martin Luther Said, even if the world was ending today, I would plant an apple tree. What a beautiful, beautiful quote. And there's a verse from Ecclesiastes that says something very similar, which is, you don't. You don't just look at the winds of whether or not you sow. Too many people, I think, check the weather in the stock market before they say, I am going to act. My main message to every church, every campus, every believer is that you could be disgusted, depressed, disgruntled at the macro, but you have zero excuse to not act boldly and courageously in the micro. You must continue to pour in, to build big families, to build strong churches, to expand businesses. The enemy would love nothing more than to create a sense of paralysis amongst believers, the last, best hope for liberty. Because things look really bleak on the outside. Of course, there's a lot of negativity. We could talk about it. We get. That's actually irrelevant to what I try to end every speech with, which is, what are you going to do? And if you ask the question, well, Charlie, what else am I doing? We'll talk about at the end of what you can do. It's a very simple question, which is, if you have not lost anything significant in the last couple of years, you're a spectator and you're not in the arena. It's that simple. You can judge.

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Ouch.

[A]

You can judge a participant versus a spectator verse on how much they have lost, not how much they have gained. Now, we've gained a lot at Turning Point usa, you might say, well, Charlie, what have you lost? Friendships, relationships with family members, time? We've lost a lot. We have the battle wounds and the scars to show it. Praise God. We fought through it, and we're leaning in and doing more. But I find the people that are doing the most are saying, charlie, I'm glad I lost those things, because actually, God has now freed me up to fight even harder to be able to win.

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Thank you, Charlie. Come on, put your hands together. Thank you, Charlie. Charlie, thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. What a voice. Great wisdom, great courage, great clarity. I honestly believe that Charlie is a prophetic voice to our time.

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