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Charlie Kirk
My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You gotta stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Point USA College chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA High School chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life. And I encourage you to do the same. Here I am, Lord. Use me. Buckle up everybody. Here we go. The Charlie Kirk show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, the leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. Okay, we'll do some questions.
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Isabel Brown
Don't be shy.
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Charlie Kirk
Question for both of you guys. And Charlie, I know you've talked with President Trump a bit about abortion related stuff. What action, if any, do you think the President's going to take with regards to the abortion pill? President Biden really loosened regulations around it. A lot of pro lifers want President Trump and the FDA to do more to restrict it, to restrict its shipment. So what do you think's gonna happen? I have no idea. I'm much more on your camp. I don't know where he believes or what he thinks on that. Isabel, why don't you educate people more? I know you talked about it earlier about the horrors and the medical implications of the abortion pill.
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Isabel Brown
Yeah, it's a great question. And I know the FDA and HHS at large is doing some fantastic work reinvestigating so many of these health related questions. Not just isolated to abortion, but food dyes and additives and chemicals in what we're eating. Redoing the infant vaccine schedule, which is fascinating work. So keep your eye on all of that because the science is really fascinating. But the abortion pill, you're right, was incredibly relaxed by the Biden administration, which is what allows us to now be able to just purchase these things online. It comes through the mail. No one ever knows people are stockpiling these things. Charlie brought up over at our dinner a few minutes ago that there are two active cases currently happening in the United States right now where people are on trial for murder because the male partner gave an abortion pill without his Girlfriend or wife's consent. So this is a question even before the courts right now. Ultimately, I think the real questions related to HHS and safety for the abortion pill are going to come down to the fact that women hemorrhage and bleed out from these quite often, far more than the media will ever report and the impact that it's having in our water system. And that will be the best way for. For the government to take action.
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Charlie Kirk
Also, the reason why these horrific cases in Illinois and Texas matter. How could it be murder if it's not a baby? Yes. All right. Hi, Charlie, how are you? Thanks for putting together America Fest. I went for the first time last year, was amazing. Great job there. I wanted to ask if you could talk a little bit about Margaret Sanger and the history of Planned Parenthood and her involvement with Bill Gates Sr. And why that matters today. Yeah, actually, I don't know about Bill Gates Sr. But I guess. Do you mean the current Bill Gates or Bill Gates dad, Bill Gates senior, close friends with Margaret Sanger? Well, I didn't know that, actually, but I can tell. Thank you for telling me that. So Margaret Sanger was the original eugenicist, Right. She was one of a gang of population control freaks, honestly, in the early 1900s that wanted to try to control population. Now, this is a natural extension of Darwinism. So if what you might ask someone, hey, what is the. What is the title of Darwin's magnum opus? People will say, Origin of Species. It's actually not the title. It's Origin and Species and An Inquiry into those of the Favored Races. I might have some words off, but you guys could fact check me. Basically, into the favored races. Is there. So Darwinism, which, by the way, is not correct. I believe God created the heavens and the earth and created humanity. I believe in micro adaptation. I do not believe in macro evolution. So I encourage you guys to have that same view when talking to your kids. Anyway, that's a side note. This Darwinistic view was like, hey, survival of the fittest. We need to try to cleanse our world of the lower races and the lower peoples. Margaret Sanger was a bitter racist and she wanted to basically sterilize, at the very least, entire black populations in America because she believed that the black population was a lesser favored people. This was so extreme that the Nazi Germans actually came and studied Margaret Sanger's work. And they said, that's a little bit too much for even us. True story. It's documented, right? Isabella, the Nazis came here and read it. They were like, that's too graphic. So Nazis then did their own horrific thing. The worst eugenics experiment that we have on record. However, here's the kicker. Margaret Sanger, in her part time, also started Planned Parenthood. She is the founder of Planned Parenthood. In fact, up until recently, until we made a little bit of a hysteria about it, they gave away the Margaret Sanger Award for 50 straight years at Planned Parenthood. There are statues to her, there are buildings named after her. Her intended population was to try to curtail and diminish the black population in America. And I hate to say it this way, but in some ways she succeeded. The highest abortion rate in America is in the black population. The most dangerous place for a black baby is in the womb. In fact, there are far more Planned Parenthood abortion mills in black neighborhoods per capita, per square mile, per hour than any other group in America. So Margaret Sanger's dream was trying to keep the black population at bay and eliminating it altogether. If this sounds demonic, it's absolutely demonic, right? And the final point is that black population was around 14% 50, 60 years ago. Now it's 13% and it might even have been higher. I think it was 16, 17% and diminishing every 10 to 20 years. If you see a. This is the last thing I'll say and I'll give it to Isabel. If you see a pregnant black woman in New York on the subway, statistically it is more likely she's on her way to an abortion clinic than to a delivery room. So the abortion rate is above the birth rate in New York City for black women.
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Isabel Brown
She even ended up expanding her eugenicist idea beyond just the black community, of course, impacting disabled individuals and many others that she considered less favorable in society. Very Nazi Germany esque to language. But she's on record repeatedly saying there should be no new babies, ever. Ultimately, this was a sterilization experiment for every generation to come after her. And in shocking, shocking ways, Planned Parenthood is succeeding in that sterilization experiment. Not just by convincing young people to abort their babies, but Planned Parenthood is actually the number one provider of puberty blockers and cross sex hormones to teenagers in America. Boasting on their own website, you do not need a pre done diagnosis of gender dysphoria or any history of gender dysphoria to walk in and walk out with testosterone in hand. Same day they're sterilizing children before they even get the chance to conceptualize do I want a family? And they are succeeding.
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Charlie Kirk
Thank you.
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Isabel Brown
Several weeks ago, I felt The Holy Spirit gave me a message for you, and I told him, if he put me face to face with you, I would. I would give it. So. So my question. I am the product of discipleship in the church. There's probably 10 women actually here who are responsible for that. And my question is, would you prayerfully consider doing a nationwide push in our country for discipleship in the church? I've heard you talk a lot about marriage and what an impact it's made on young men. But I think that if we take one step back, that discipleship would be a much bigger impact.
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Charlie Kirk
It's a great question. I will consider it. We have a lot of projects going on. But you're right, that's important because that's the Great Commission. And we misunderstand the Great Commission, where most pastors act like Jesus said, create converts of all nations. But he said, create disciples of all nations. And discipleship is deep. Discipleship takes time. Converts lead to discipleship. But we should be measuring success. And, hey, how many disciples do you have? Not how many converts do you have? And far too often, sometimes I speak at churches, and they'll say, hey, we had, you know, 13,000 commitments for Jesus this Easter. Amazing. Praise God. Right? But you have to wonder how many of those people are following up and are going deeper into discipleship. You said something very important, which is community. And so I don't want to go too long on this, but the best way I can say it is there's major problems with young men in this country. There's an attack on young men and especially an attack on young white men in this country. That's not me racializing it. It's just a fact. We have entire curriculum set up to try to shame them, to try to have them, you know, basically apologize for their existence. Young men will take that kind of hostile cultural approach by disconnecting altogether from society. The male unemployment rate is twice that of female. The male suicide rate is higher. Men are just disconnecting. They are the lost boys of the west, you could call them. And it's a major existential problem. Why isn't the church filling that void? And it should actively developing men's ministries that are not just pastors wearing skinny jeans, you know, talking about their feelings. Don't worry, Pastor. You passed the test. So I have a lot more I can say on that. But thank you for that message. God bless you.
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Charlie Kirk
Good evening, Mr. Kirk. I'm a very huge fan. I've been watching you for a long time. My question revolves. It's a relatively biblical question. When you look in scripture, you see ideas presented of a Christian's duty and position to submit to governing authorities. Talked about in the 13th chapter of Romans according to St. Paul and in 1st Peter. What do you think we as Christians and our relationship should be to tyrannical governments, often cases bloated and rife with corruption that allow atrocities like this abortion to continue? So I'm gonna try to blow your mind a little bit here. It's a little mental jujitsu. You ready? Who's in charge in America? Is it the people? Well, yeah, it is. No, it's our Father in heaven. Well, no, you're right, ultimately. But according to our documents, who's the sovereign? Okay. It's the people. Right, so. Oh, you're talking about us. Yes. Yeah. Here's what I'm getting at. The elected leaders should be submitting to the people. Romans 13 is written for our congressmen and our state legislators and our mayors. The brilliance, what the founding fathers did is that we read it because it says governing authorities. We're actually the governing authorities in the United States of America. So if you read Romans 13, it says, submit to the rulers of authority. We are the rulers of authority. The American founders broke the mold. And this is what was so wrong during COVID they said, well, we must submit to our local leaders. The second thing is, you should never Submit to that which is ungodly or unbiblical or immoral. Period. End of story. Okay, There we go. And the final example of this again, during COVID we had the worst theology ever thrown at us and thrust on us. But the example. One of my favorite verses of the entire Bible is Exodus 1, which is this. Is this ties to abortion? Okay, so listen carefully. In Exodus 1, one of my favorite verses, it starts with, and the king. The king of Egypt did not know Joseph, basically. And from that point forward, Exodus changes, right? So remember, Genesis 50 ends, the people of Israel come to Egypt. They were blessed by Joseph, and all of a sudden, a new king. He didn't remember what Joseph did. Tyranny ensues. This guy's like Egyptian Hitler, and he says, the Israelites are too many. They might form an army. We need to go kill their firstborn. So basically, he's arguing for abortion. Throw them into the river, right? Throw them into the Nile. And in this stunning moment, the midwives to the Hebrews, which we think are Hebrew, but could be Egyptian. That's a theological wonky point. They were told by their king, the pharaoh, to go murder the firstborn. And it says they disobeyed Pharaoh and they honored God. And what God dealt well with, dealt well to the midwives of the Hebrews. He did well with them because they loved God and did not trust. Did not listen to man. What I'm getting at. They. They refused to throw babies into the Nile river just because their government told them to do it. And you got to ask yourself that question, like, if they would have listened to, you know, would Moses have been alive if they would, you can. You can extrapolate all these different ramifications of it. But the final thing, I'm way over complicating it, because as you could tell, I have done a lot of scholarship on this. In Romans 13, it says, the government is there for your good. The moment any government is no longer there for their good, the social contract that is established in Romans 13 is null and void. People say, well, what are you supposed to submit to the Chinese Communist Party? No, they're not there for your good. They're not uplifting godliness. In fact, I believe that obedience to tyranny is disobedience to God. And I will stand by that at every turn. Isabelle, if you have a thought on that.
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Isabel Brown
That's precisely what's so beautiful about the American experiment, by the way, because that social contract is also null and void in our own founding documents. The minute our own Government becomes too tyrannical. We don't cite that in the Declaration of Independence very often, but quite literally baked right there into the beginning is the idea that it is the right and responsibility of the people to rise up against tyranny and to take power back for we the people, not just those that we elect to represent us in Washington, D.C. yeah.
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Charlie Kirk
And I would just say any pastor that throws Romans 13 at you, you should also ask them, are they equally living by Paul's other commandments, other Paul's other teaching when it comes to church authority, when it comes to sin, I find Romans 13 is the most quoted verse for someone that doesn't actually want to fight evil and would rather just have a comfort little spot as a pastor. Thank you very much.
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Audience Member 1
Hi, Charlie. One of the things that the other girl talked about before me goes along with my question is, why don't we educate younger children earlier in the church? Because a condom can protect a genital part, but a condom cannot protect the heart. And that's a quote that I wrote down 20 years ago. It doesn't. There's more damage in premarital sex. It takes something away from me. Why are we not saying that?
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Charlie Kirk
Amen. You're totally right. I'll let Isabel go. I don't want to monopolize this, but I waited for marriage. I encourage other people to do that as well. When I go to a college campus, they act as if having limitless abundance on demand sex is up there with shelter and food for the need to live. You don't need it. Actually, it's better for you not to have it until marriage. And again, this goes back to why Christianity matters in all these discussions is sex. I know we have younger people here, so is coitus. Is that. Is it merely physical or are there other things at play? We know that it's spiritual 100%, and we want it to be entered into the protected shelter and covering of something that is not contractual, but instead is covenantal. We do not do a good enough job of teaching our teenagers the difference between a contractual relationship and a covenantal relationship. Covenants happen all throughout the Bible and only marriage is given the same parallel to the church. So I'm right there with you. And I wish every pastor in America spoke out against premarital sex once a year. Every pastor should do it like mid summer. That's all I'm going to say.
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Isabel Brown
And our lack of education shows too. I don't know if we touched upon this this evening yet, but the abortion rate in America statistically is the same inside and outside of the church in our country, largely because we don't talk about it. We never talk about these relationships. But what's really fascinating is despite the lack of leadership from the church on this issue that I think we both have witnessed over the last several years, the youngest generation of adults is shockingly, having statistically extremely low all time low levels of premarital sex. And most of that is in a countercultural response to the brokenness we're seeing in society. We're looking at the misery, we're looking at the heartbreak, we're looking at the sexual statistical probability of divorce and breakups and realizing we don't want that for ourselves. This is the perfect opportunity for the church to swoop in and say there is a better design than whatever this silver platter society is offering to you. You don't need to keep swiping back and forth on dating apps. You don't need to be chatting with an AI bot for your intimacy, which shockingly, up to 33% of young adults in places like Washington D.C. where I live are, are doing. They're dating a chatbot on AI. And you certainly don't need to believe this distorted lie that you have a human right to physical intimacy with another person. That is a covenant. It's a gift. It's something we should celebrate, but it's not something to be taken.
- [19:33]
Charlie Kirk
And it does incredible damage to women. It damages men. But female liberation has without a doubt sexually been one of the great, undiagnosed, not talked about, traumatic elements of our culture last 30 or 40 years. The more sexual partners that a young woman has in college, there's all sorts of enormous issues that come alongside of it. And we never talk about it because we think like, oh, it's freedom and liberty. It's actually not. It creates a ton of issues, not the least of which is guilt and confusion and attachment. It's bad. It's bad altogether. God's design for marriage is right, it's holy, it's covenantal. And we should celebrate and, and encourage our young people to aim towards it and save themselves for marriage.
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Charlie Kirk
hi Charlie. It's good to see you again. Ms. Brown. It's the first time I've seen you. I saw you a few years back in Fox Theater. So my question to you is going further into the abortion debate. When it comes to devaluing human life, my belief is a big part of why we have things like school shootings, drug and alcohol abuse is because they have devalued human life. What do you think about that? Yeah, you're right. I mean, it's a culture of death versus a culture of life. This is why John 10:10 is one of my favorite verses, which is, Jesus Christ our Lord, said, I have come to give life and life more abundantly. The enemy has come to lie, steal, cheat and destroy. That's a culture of death. It's a culture of deception versus a culture of life. But look, it all makes sense. We put up with homelessness because we abort our unwanted people. Obviously, we don't feed our veterans because we put up with destroying kids in the womb. It creates a callousness. It creates a darkness that cascades over the entire land. And so one of the. And this is such an important point you make. You cannot just say, well, it's just going to happen in an operating room and we're going to have a million abortions a year and act as if that does not have ramifications throughout your entire society. Has real. It spreads darkness in every possible realm.
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Isabel Brown
I think it even transcends the immediate loss of life in situations like school shootings and actual death. This culture of death devalues the very concept of life and the meaning of it as we're walking through it. It's what has allowed for us to think that it's culturally and societies acceptable to castrate children and to take their futures away from them. It's the culture that allows us to say that. I hear all the time on college campuses, young women tell me, I wish I had been aborted because I'm anxious, I'm depressed. I have no personal life. I have no friends, I have no intimate relationships. I don't have a relationship with God. My life is meaningless. And that concept of life as a gift, something that we've been given by God so that we could live it, gets taken away from society as well. This revival and this almost renaissance of Western civilization and ideas that we're seeing spread up from young people, I think is this grasp to want life to have meaning again and to live it to the fullest, no matter how long it happens to be, and to be able to share that with others. And that's what I'm really hopeful for.
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Charlie Kirk
Thank you, Charlie. Everyone here, on a constant basis, prays to God for the end of abortion. How do we get to the end game where we get science and the judicial system to come together so that life begins at conception? Because once we have that, it becomes illegal and gives that life, whether it's an embryo or a fetus, human rights. How do we get to that point? Yes, it's a great. So let's talk pragmatically and then we'll talk philosophically. So I think we're still 30 to 40 years out. I'll be honest. We are still a ways out from having the judiciary, which reflects the culture, embrace that. And I can tell you that the belief that life begins at conception is growing, but it's in the vast minority of the nation's population right now. But also, this is why elections matter, is that, yes, you should pray to end abortion, but you should do something to end abortion. You should elect lawmakers that share your values, actually, and you should be unafraid to get engaged and be salt and light in every possible capacity. And so, yeah, as far as, like, practically, I also think we need to do a better job of financing our movements. That's why I encourage you guys to give generously to this organization and get this VR project out there. I like it a lot. I loved what they're presenting. But this is gonna be a long fight. It's gonna be a long haul. It's not gonna happen overnight. Understand, of all the issues that the bad guys care about, this one has an energy to it, almost a life force. That's a really sick way to put it, isn't it? It's almost. It's what Keeps them going. And I'll just say this and I'll throw it to Isabel. When you study the Aztecs, the Mayans and the Incans, then you study the Egyptians. So two civilizations that had no contact with each other. Then you study the Indus River Valley, Then you study the Chinese, you study the Mesopotamians. They all had child sacrifice. The one thing that united the ancient world is that they would sacrifice their young and do so repeatedly. You can go to Africa right now and there are tribes that just leave their babies by the fire and let them cry to death. Happens all the time. I think that there is a pagan demonic energy. I can't quite put my finger on it, but there's a reason why Molech is mentioned all throughout the Old Testament. That is a sustaining darkness of this enemy that we're trying to fight, where they just can't release the idea of possibly sacrificing children. That's why Jesus was so clear about not harming children, because Jesus knew the spiritual implications. What happens when you go after the least of these?
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Isabel Brown
So, Isabel, beautifully said. I couldn't have added anything more meaningful than that. But I think that really centers around something that we often are afraid to talk about as Christians. And it's the reality that evil is real, demonic forces are real, Satan is real. And there is a spiritual warfare constantly raging around us, whether we think about it or not, because we can't physically often see it in our realm. But it. It is happening right here in this very room. Right. And so I think we're getting a lot more honest about it societally, especially from the evil side. There are at least two satanic ritual abortion centers in America now. One is in New Mexico and one is in Maine. And they are challenging the judiciary side of this by saying that this is their legal and constitutional right under the concept of freedom of religion, to some sacrificially end the lives of these children in worship of Satan. They are honest about this. And I think we sometimes can take it a little too far as Christians calling everything demonic. Is every Taylor Swift song actually demonic?
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Charlie Kirk
No, probably not all of them.
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Isabel Brown
Not all of them. And so we laugh and we roll our eyes when, oh, Aunt sue said the latest thing was demonic. But it is. This is quite literally worship of Satan. I mentioned this at our dinner, but there's an amazing activist in the, in the pro life space named Seth Gruber who does great work encouraging young men to get more involved in this space. And he said in a clip that's re going viral every six months or so there is a reason that abortion uses a twisted, sick, demonic, evil version of the Eucharist of Communion. Because Jesus is the pure manifestation of laying down your life for the. For the sake of others, to embrace pure, in a sense, to embrace pure redemption from sin and to pay the full price for all humanity. Satan, in his very deceptive ways, loves to twist and deceive and lie and uses those same words for abortion. This is my body, not given up for you. This is my body, my choice. This is my body for only the sake of me. I have a right to this. I get to do this. This is my choice, my responsibility, my truth. And it's disgusting, it's depraved. But. But the more we can unlock that secret to it, the more I think we can understand how to beat the left at their own game with this. Because it has to start with honesty. We often say in the pro life space that in order to make abortion gone from society, it takes two things. It makes abortion illegal, hopefully. And there are great people fighting that fight every day. But more importantly in a much harder battle is to make abortion unthinkable. And that starts with exposing the darkness of Satan and bringing it into the.
- [29:06]
Charlie Kirk
Thank you so much.
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Isabel Brown
Hi, Mr. Kirk. It's a honor to meet you. I've been watching you for two years and I gave my life to Christ about a year ago.
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Charlie Kirk
Praise the Lord. God bless you, man. It's phenomenal.
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Isabel Brown
I'm 14. I just, I just went to high. I've just started high school and I'm wondering how can I as a young Christian man go into the world when literally in one of my classrooms one of my teacher has two pride flags? It's all destigmatized, it's all, it's all evil. And they, and they have destigmatized all evil. And as someone who's genuinely terrified to enter adulthood and everything, how can I keep, how can I keep, how can I keep myself from falling? And to help others from falling.
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Charlie Kirk
Wow. Okay, firstly, I think we have a table or some representatives here. Yeah, there he is. We have the nation's largest high school program called Club America, brought to you by Turning Point usa. We'd love to have you start a Club America. Who's anyone running Club America groups here? I see a couple hands going up. Awesome. And so you should start one. Let me, I have a couple thoughts. I'm gonna go quick because I know running out of time. Number one, everybody in the room, that should motivate you to get off your tail that a young man has to go see this ridiculous pride imagery where your taxpayers are funding that school. It's a public school, right? Yeah. Where your taxpayers are funding that. Like shame on us for tolerating this and we shouldn't put up with that at all actually. It's disgusting that you have to go through that. And number three, here's my message to you though. Don't play the victim. Number one, you gave your life to Christ, so you have a spirit of courage, not a fear. You have the Holy Spirit with you. Number two, I'm gonna speak right into your life. You get a chance to go through obstacles that many people in this room will never go through. You're gonna become tougher, you're going to become smarter, you're going to become wiser, you're going to know your stuff more. And yet you might get, you know, beat across the jaw, hopefully not literally, but you never know. You know, the, the purple haired jihadis, they can be rather violent. So no, as you met them out there. Yeah. I'm sure they're welcoming. So. But listen, you as a young Christian, you're signing up for something with ultimate aims and purposes. But when you're 24, when you're 34, you're going to look back to when you were 14. You're like, man, that was hard, but that made me the man that I am today. And so you, you're in a blessed position even though it's hard. Read your Bible every single day. Do what the Bible tells you to do. That's number two. And then number three, tell people what the Bible says. That's it. Read your Bible every single day. Do what the Bible tells you to do, and then tell other people what the Bible says. Those three things are going to be just fine as you go to school in Sodom and Gomorrah. God bless you.
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Isabel Brown
And to challenge Charlie's modesty and humility here, keep listening to Charlie Kirk, because you should be at 14 years old. Parents think that they shouldn't expose their children to these ideas. But there is, without a doubt, no one else in our country that has made a bigger impact on young men to transform Western civilization. 14 years old is the perfect time to be listening.
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Charlie Kirk
Very sweet. I think we have time for two or three more. Let's go. Fab.
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Isabel Brown
Hi.
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Audience Member 1
Well, first of all, when you said for that little boy to create a chapter, I was just prodded to become president of the first chapter at my college. By Lincoln over here.
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Charlie Kirk
Praise God. Congratulations.
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Audience Member 1
My question for you, both of you, is for a young woman like me, I just graduated high school, so I'm in my first year of college. I know you don't like that, Charlie.
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Charlie Kirk
I'll get over it.
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Audience Member 1
So I want to get married and have a family, and I want to do that as soon as possible. But, like, right now, that doesn't seem to be in, like, the near future. What's. Do you have any words of advice or words of encouragement for young women like me and men to. What do we do in the meantime while we're trying? Well, we want to build that family and grow those lives. Like, what do we do in the meantime? Because I don't want to be at college. I'm really doing it to fill time because it's really hard to find a job.
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Charlie Kirk
But you want to be a mom.
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Audience Member 1
But I want to be a mom. Yeah. What do I do in the meantime? And, like, how do I stay strong in that?
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Charlie Kirk
First of all, I'm going to let Isabel answer this first, then I'll do second. God bless you for wanting to be a mom. I want more women of America to want to be moms. You're a hero, and you deserve praise for that.
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Isabel Brown
Isabel, I am so inspired by your vocation to marriage and motherhood. And I hear this, by the way, from more young women every single day, day across this country. Do not believe that women hate marriage and babies. We want it very, very badly. It's just that our society is screaming at us not to. We do a lot of work encouraging marriage as a really important foundation for Western civilization. And I think sometimes the conservative political world often says, hurry up and get married. Hurry up and get married. You're losing time. You're 20 years old. Just as important as reviving marriage societally, at the individual level, it's very important to marry the right person, and you cannot force that yourself. The Holy Spirit will make it incredibly obvious when you meet your spouse who that person is supposed to be. Like every young woman, I think I threw in the towel in dating five or six years into it and said, yeah, I'm horrible at this. I can't make the right decisions. God, you take it away. I prayed that. The one thing I ask is that you make it incredibly obvious to me when I meet my husband that that's the man I'm supposed to spend my life with. Pray for that. Pray for your own spiritual development, that you can become a beautiful wife and mom when God does. Bless you with that. And spend time praying for your future spouse. They are out there. They're a real person, even if they seem like an abstract idea to you. But prayer really is our first line of offense in building strong families and making sure we can bring God back to that nuclear reality of Western civilization.
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Charlie Kirk
Again, it's a great question. I'm just going to say this is completely anecdotal, but I think it's generally right if you extrapolate it. When people get divorces, I always ask them, did you have any doubts going in? A large majority say yes. They had a doubt that they ignored. They suppressed. Someone said something. So when you go and marry, any of those doubts surface, you need to really run them down. You need to pray about them. You need to get biblical counseling to see if that's the enemy trying to derail you from something holy or maybe something that actually is your instinct telling you to not go into that, not rush into that. Again, that's completely anecdotal. But when I meet people that have divorced and some people divorce for totally necessary reasons. Right? So I'm not even commenting on that. I always ask, like, did you have. Yeah, you know, I saw something when we were engaged and I should have said something to a counselor, you know, so there's. So just know that going in. But honestly, where are you going to college? Okay. It's not the worst. I get so much hate for this, but I'm going to say it again because it's true. There's nothing wrong with getting an Mrs. Degree and going to college to meet your husband. If it's the most Important thing in your life. Why would you not go and meet an attractive, you know, young, fertile, conservative Christian man who has just going into his high earning potential if that's the most important thing for you?
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Charlie Kirk
Last question.
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Audience Member 2
Hi, my question is in regards to.
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Charlie Kirk
This will be the last one, then we got to dash.
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Audience Member 2
Okay. My question is in regards to the medical system and what you guys see as future projects. Quick, quick, quick. Story is that my mother had me just close to my daughter's age as a teenager, got brought up Catholic, told her parents, they said, get an abortion. She ended up having me, but because of that they kicked her out and she had no place to go. We were brought up on food stamps, Medicare, all that kind of good stuff. So our primary care was Planned Parenthood. That's where we went for our primary care. And they put me on birth control before I was even having sex, before I even started my period. And I think it had a really bad hormonal effect on me and I wasn't able to have kids. And finally I had her. She's my miracle baby, praise God. So I know in the school systems they're pushing birth control, not getting pregnant. I don't want to ever put her on birth control because of what I've gone through. How do we stop that type of thing happening?
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Isabel Brown
I am so glad you brought this up because birth control is my single greatest crusade right now. The New York Times calls me an anti birth Control activist. And I wear it like a badge of honor like most young Christian women, though shockingly, I'm quite transparent about this. I was on hormonal birth control for nine years. I was not prescribed it to prevent pregnancy. I was not sexually active like every teenage girl in America. I was prescribed hormonal birth control for acne. I was taking Accutane. And the government mandatorily required that you have two forms of birth control. One could be abstinence and the other one had to be the actual pill. Every doctor in my life ever told me, well, you're gonna get really fat, your acne is gonna come back, you're gonna hate your life, you're gonna be super depressed. Ugh, let's just stay on it. It's good for you. It's a magic pill. It is not. This is slow release poison that we are giving to the next generation of women that is altering our emotional status, our mental status. It's just changing our relationships. New studies are coming out that we are attracted to more effeminate men when we're all taking birth control. Gee, I wonder who could have possibly predicted that in society and explained so much of where we got. Where we got here. This is a contagion that has impacted an entire generation and no one even bothered to do the research. Now the research is coming out and we owe it to moms like you to save the next generation from the hell that we had to be.
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Charlie Kirk
What a great answer. Thank you. I don't have much to add on to that. We need it. We need it. We need to glorify abstinence more in the church and we don't do it enough. Closing, Isabelle. Final thought, Isabelle, Then I'll close it up.
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Isabel Brown
I'm just so inspired to see all of you here and making a difference. You know, Charlie said this evening, just by being here, you're doing something to advance the mission of protecting life and the dignity of the human person. But every one of you has a sphere of influence. You might not have the radio audience and the television audience and the speaking audience that Charlie has. You might not go make tiktoks on your phone for a living all day, every day to a blue check mark audience of over a million people. But you do have people you sit next to in church. You have people that live in your college dorm with you. You have extended family members to talk about this around the Thanksgiving dinner table. We have to destigmatize the idea of talking about the abortion industry because our silence is what has allowed this genocide to take place throughout my lifetime. But with enough showing up day after day after day in 30 years or 40 years or 50 years, just like it took for Roe to be overturned, we have the capacity to rid abortion from society in our lifetime. It just starts with us.
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Charlie Kirk
I don't have much to add to that. Isabelle, very proud of everything you're doing. Most importantly for being a mom. Yet another Turning Point USA amazing success story. Look, you guys, my final charge to you guys know Jesus and make him known and make the this region of the world, even though you got a lot of problems in this state, to be more glorifying to Jesus, save more babies, you know, influence the laws in the ways that are going to glorify God. And most importantly, raise up your children in ways that are biblical, that are patriotic. Get them involved with Turning Point usa. Get them involved with Club America. You know, listen to the right stuff. The next generation is literally going to save this nation and this country. And I love coming to this part of the world. You guys are always so warm and welcoming and we had a great event a couple years ago, I think, at the Fox Theater. And so I just want to say you're all the best. Thank you. Support this very important organization. Give money tonight. Give something. Give 50 cents. Give a dollar. Chip something in so that they can continue their important work of advocating for those that can't advocate for themselves. God bless you guys and thank you to Larry. Thank you for having us. God bless you. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.
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