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How the Base Came Back Better, Stronger, and Tougher — Exclusive Interview with Donald Trump Jr.
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Charlie Kirk
Hey, everybody. Don Jr. Joins the program. All about the new administration, what it means to be loyal, and why we need to fight, fight, fight into the new year. Become a member today. Members.charliekirk.com to be part of our growing community. That is members.charliekirk.com members.charliekirk. com Buckle up, everybody. Here we go.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
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Charlie Kirk
Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
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Donald Trump Jr.
I want you to know we are.
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Charlie Kirk
Lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
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Unknown Speaker
I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point usa.
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Charlie Kirk
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Donald Trump Jr.
Good to be here. Good to be back.
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Charlie Kirk
So we got quite a crowd. Our members only crew is growing.
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Donald Trump Jr.
I mean, your members only crew is larger than, like, the entire membership of Turning Point the first time. That's right. This would have been a big turnout back in, like, 16 for.
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Charlie Kirk
Oh, yeah. The first event you spoke at was our Winter in West Palm beach event in Palm Beach. This was like the combined attendance of that entire event.
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Donald Trump Jr.
And by the way, by political standards, that was huge with a capital Y. But it's grown a lot.
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Charlie Kirk
It has. So, Don, there's so much to kind of walk through. Let's go back to what you called day one, what we called the new day one. January 7, 2021. It looked as if the Trump movement was over. We were put in exile. You never gave up. We never gave up. And now here we are today, where everyone acts as if it was an obvious foregone conclusion that we're gonna take back the White House, take us back in time, walk us through the most amazing political comeback in American history.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Yeah. No, it was incredible. I mean, everyone was like, well, I was there in 16 and 15 and whatever it is. Well, where were you in January 7th? Because there's multiple day ones. If you were at both of those places, that's pretty great. And that's really the applicant pool of who we're looking at right now. I mean, the amount of people who jumped ship on January 7th and Trump never had a chance on back in 15, zero chance of winning a primary, zero chance of beating Hillary Clinton. He was definitely getting impeached twice. He just kept coming back. Watching all of these people write you off so many times, it's actually great motivation. But I think that's what's so much more effective about this administration, this cabinet, the people that are involved. We just know in 16, we didn't know anything. We didn't know any. The first night my father spent in Washington D.C. was the night he moved into the White House. We were trusting Chris, Krispy, Kreme, Christie. That was our closest person that may have known something about Washington. And maybe he did, or maybe it was, you know, he knew something bad. And so it's just so different, which gives me so much hope. It's why you see people trying so desperately now, but it's not working anymore. Once you got a hold of X and you know, watching the left right now, oh my God, it's a right wing platform. No, it's 50. 50. You're just used to having an entire echo chamber to yourselves. You're not used to having to argue. You're not used to having to actually formulate an opinion. Because whatever you said was just the gospel. As long as you repeat the narrative, you were rewarded with followers and likes. It's just so different now. The people are involved. I mean, you know, when, as we've been saying, like we are the media now.
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Charlie Kirk
Yes.
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Donald Trump Jr.
We're also the government now. I mean, it, I mean, you look at what's happening in the last few weeks, I mean, you know, two, three weeks ago, Pete Hegseth was dead, according to the media. And then MAGA got involved. People were vocal. They started calling out sort of the more rhino leaning members of the Republican Senate. And all of a sudden everyone's back in line. And I call it etp. Education through pain. It's Charlie. I like that it is, but that's what it is. Not in the physical sense of the word because some schmuck on CNN's Gonna Take. He's inciting violence. You know, you know, the deal. And so, you know, we did that. We weren't able to do that in the past. Right. Even if we had our voices out there where they were suppressed so badly, while, you know, the sort of popular Democrat narrative was enhanced artificially now with a level playing field. We can do that. And we can make these, you know, representatives actually represent us for a change. I know that, you know, they're used to doing the bidding of the oligarchs in the D.C. swamp. That's gone right now. And that's why it's so fundamental. We just keep it up. You can't do that. And when people, well, this one's over. And if Hegseth would have rolled, they would have set their targets on the next one. It would have. It would have been a dynamic shift for the next four years. But watching, you know, not just us, but all of you, you know, get after it, get involved, call these people out. You know, whether it was physically, whether it was on social, whether it was on the media, you know, we turned a narrative around in like, three or four days that the, you know, the experts that we all been hearing about, experts for a while. You can't be an expert, by the way, if you haven't been right in about a decade, that you should lose your expert status. You know, but the experts were saying, you know, there's blood in the water, this thing's over, and, you know, the base stuck by their people. And when we do that and we become unafraid and we fight back, we win, and it's that simple.
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Charlie Kirk
And so I want to be very clear, we said this, and Don and I were part of a few people that held the line for Pete Hegseth, and that's not over yet. But that was a very telling moment, because if we would have just kind of surrendered, it could have derailed the entire Trump presidency. And I hope you guys understand that, that the whole direction of the Trump presidency was in suspension. I said, and Don echoed, and vice versa, that if you are a Republican senator, like Joni Ernst or one of these others, and you voted for Joe Biden's Department of Defense director, and you won't vote for Donald Trump's DoD director, we will primary you and remove you from office immediately.
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Donald Trump Jr.
We're actually watching that play out again. I mean, with the cr. I mean, you took a bill that the swamp would have gladly signed that had a lot of stuff that was bad, and, you know, in three hours, that thing was dead on arrival. And again, because of you guys calling it out, we now have the ability to assess information rapidly, not, you know, well, pass it to figure out what's in it. We've heard that for far too long now. We can actually see it with a level playing field on social. We're actually all able to Then chime in. And in 24, 48 hours, we got a new bill that got rid of a lot of that pork and a lot of that waste and all of the things that everyone here voted against on November 5th.
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Charlie Kirk
It's funny, they have a comparison right now on Twitter is that the other one was 1500. The new CR is like three pages long, which is the way it should be, by the way, is that if you're going to do a CR and you're going to debt living increase, you don't need 900 different pages to get there. Don, what is it about this retiring Republican ideology from some of these senators where they feel as if it's okay to give Joe Biden what he wants, but not Donald Trump? Like, it's not easily understood. Help me understand the psychology behind that.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Am I allowed to say it's like a cuck mindset? Can I say that on the Charlie Kirk Show? I'm not quite as evangelical as Charlie, so I'm gonna go. No, it is. You know what it is? I've been saying it. If you're a weak Republican in D.C. it's an easy existence. You know, you can be like 90% of the way there, you know, 80% of the way there, as long as you give up when the Democrats really need it or want it. They leave you alone. They don't show up in front of your house. You're not getting the hate, you know, mail, you know, editorial from the Washington Post. And so for a lot of these people, they get to D.C. and they forget about the people who actually sent them there and what they actually represent. I've been in the room, I've seen it a thousand times. I'll go do events for these people, try to help them get elected. Because, I mean, not in all cases, but usually a weak Republican is still better than a D. So you go there, you hear the things that they're saying to the people. I'm like, you know what? This guy's not going to be that bad, or this woman's not going to be that bad. They're going to be fine. It's maybe not exactly what I want. And then they get to D.C. and it's a totally transformed individual. They feel they really have to answer to the swamp far more than the people that they represent. And again, that's what that dynamic shift is all about right now. Because the people they represent are actually paying attention. They've been lied to forever. They no longer just have this blind faith, you know, that the person who they heard speak two days before, telling them everything they wanted to hear. Checkpoint by checkpoint is actually going to do it in D.C. because guys like us are actually out there calling them out. They see it and they're saying, wait a second. You know, we're putting up their numbers in D.C. and you get a couple thousand calls from your constituency for a congressman, or a lot more than that if you're a senator. And all of a sudden they realize, like, hey, the jig is up. They're onto us. We can't get away with it anymore. You know, if you're going to face accountability, like, for me, when I get a hate piece from the Washington Post or the New York Times, like, I look at that as a win, like, it means I'm over the target. It means I'm actually being effective. You know, they don't view it that way. We've not been playing the same game for far too long. We've been playing T ball while the Democrats have been playing hardball. And I'm fine with either game, but we have to be playing the same game.
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Charlie Kirk
And I think it's changing. I mean, with people like you. J.D. vance. How great is J.D. vance, by the way? Isn't he just amazing? Okay, every new year, we all spend a few days seriously thinking about what we can do to improve our lives. And usually it revolves around better health. Right? I want to strongly encourage you to do what I do. Take responsibility for your health by taking Balance of Nature whole food ingredient supplements seriously. They are packed with 31 varieties of fruits and veggies, from tomatoes to sweet potatoes, just about everything in between. This is a resolution you could truly keep all year long like I do. This is your last time to put it off, because today you can become a preferred customer at Balance of Nature. Use my discount code Charlie to get 35% off free shipping plus a free fiber and spice supplement. This is an unbelievable limited New Year's promotion, but you must use my discount code Charlie. Call them at 800-246-8751 or order online at balanceofnature.com use discount code Charlie to get 35% off plus a free fiber and spice supplement. And before I go any further, Don deserves a lot of credit for pushing for JD Vance. And understand the easy way out would have been a typical D.C. republican. And Don, you pushed for J.D. why did you push so hard for J.D. i mean, I did a small little thing, but I mean, you really. You went all in. If it was politics is a poker game. Don took all of his Chips. Is that right, Don? Early and early.
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Donald Trump Jr.
And you said, haven't been even dealt yet. I'm in. You know what? I got to know him actually. It was sort of interesting. I read his book when it first came out. I was like, wow. Like, you know, as he started seeing me more like, we need more people like this, then it sort of went a different way. And I actually got to know him through some friends of ours, started hanging out with him, like, man, this guy's like a great talent. Just totally gets it, you know, Brilliant, you know, just an incredible upbringing. Hasn't forgotten that upbringing, which is what so many people, you know, tend to do in politics or once they reach some sort of level of success, you know, got to know him really well. And basically, I mean, I sort of did the, the pre endorsement endorsements is sort of the unofficial pre endorsement. You got to be. Gotta be a little careful getting ahead of djt. But I did that in the, in his Republican primary when he was just running for Senate.
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Charlie Kirk
I remember.
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Donald Trump Jr.
And then, you know, you, me, Tucker.
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Charlie Kirk
I mean, you know, there's a small band.
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Donald Trump Jr.
There's a small band that just sort of, you know, really pushed to make that happen because again, I think we recognized the talent, we had the bandwidth and the time to be able to spend there and figure out what this meant. And once I saw his performance in the Senate, I was like, I mean, there is, you know, there's. There's not many senators you'd want to share a foxhole with, certainly, you know, even on the Republican side. But, you know, this was the one guy that I was like, wow, like that. That's someone we can build a party around. Because for me, it isn't just about Trump. Like, I actually believe in this stuff. I've been a lifelong conservative. I've always wanted, you know, I want this to continue beyond Trump. It's just not four more years. Great. And then we're back to like the Mitt Romney, Liz Cheney party. I know, yes, I am saying what you're saying. And you know, so it was really about establishing that bench because that's what scared me. When I looked at 16 to 20, it was like, well, what is next? There was no real standout. There was no this. I mean, you know, it was sort of joking. We were all joking at the time. It was like, Even for the 20, 20, 20, 24 primaries, like before all that happened and the early stuff, like, you know, I was first or second, I was like, well, that's great. I appreciate the compliment. But like we need more than Don 2028.
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Charlie Kirk
What do you think?
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Donald Trump Jr.
God, yeah. Yeah.
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Charlie Kirk
JD 2028. JD 2032, Don 2036. Now we got it all figured out.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Okay, well, I mean it was funny. We were joking around in a text thread earlier that some poll came out. It was basically for the 2028. It's JD then me basically dominating the entire.
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Charlie Kirk
And then DeSantis said 4%.
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Donald Trump Jr.
I don't know where he was, but it was a far cry. But it's just important to understand like MAGA is the party now. That's not Trump. That's just people who believe in putting America first. That's what it has to be. There's not a republic party anymore in anything other than name. That's maybe what we still call each other. It's about being America first and sort of feels like that's the way it should have always been.
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Charlie Kirk
So Don, we look at this agenda and the team that we've put together. Can you speak about some of these new arrivals in the last 12 months? We had America Fest last year. You spoke, you gave a great speech. But I want to go through the list. A year ago, Tulsi Gabbard, Bobby Kennedy and Elon Musk were not yet part of kind of our team. Yeah, Amazing a difference a year makes, right? Everybody now, not only they're part of our team. Elon Musk. Musk lives at Mar A Lago now. He gets his mail. Can you speak that like he gets his mail?
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Donald Trump Jr.
He's there all the time. I mean he's getting, it's amazing. He's there with his son X. And you know, it's really sort of funny. I got sort of a great compliment from him early on in the first couple of weeks of the transition. I was in a meeting and you know, I'm the guy that sort of takes some pretty aggressive stances and you know, a room of people that just a little bit more cautious than me and that just like seven times you're like, yes, exactly what we have to do. And it was, it was just great to see people finally again willing to fight a guy like that. You know, maybe one of the greatest minds ever certainly of our generation willing to take the time to help set these things up. Right. To be able to look into the inefficiencies. A guy that's, you know, done more in space than NASA, that had a 75 year head start, like I like, I want that guy involved in looking at the rest of the apparatus of government. And so that was great. But no, you're right. I mean, I guess I had a pretty big part in Tulsi and Bobby as well.
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Charlie Kirk
Just talk about that.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Well, so, you know, I have a friend, actually, business partner, Omid Malik, former Democrat, got sort of, you know, blindsided by a lot of the insanity of the left. Woke up, became a donor of ours in 2020, became a real good friend of mine, took a couple of conservative sort of parallel economies, companies public with me. All these things we were fighting. And he was like, listen, as a former Democrat, I want you to know I'm friends with some of these people. And you'd actually get along with them really well. There's a lot more that we share in common than, you know, we may not agree on everything, but a lot more. And he sort of started having me sort of back channeling with Bobby. When I saw what the Democrats sort of were trying to do, which was like, ostracize him from their side, create a crudgel against Trump, try to split that vote. I'm like, you know, DJT actually probably agrees with 90% of what he's saying on so many of these issues. I know they had a history in the past. I was like, let's just do this. And so I basically got Susie Wiles involved and my father, but basically no one else. Because if anyone else gets involved, you understand what happens, right? The leaks happen on purpose. Then they use that leak to try to create a, you know, a divide then that you can never possibly get them together. Which is why that didn't leak.
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Charlie Kirk
I don't. For the record, I didn't leak.
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Donald Trump Jr.
You didn't leak. Charlie was one of the few confidants. I was like, listen, I think I'm landing this plane. Like, I got this thing. He was like, no, you called me the day before. Like, you don't have this thing. You let me just.
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Charlie Kirk
I doubted. I was a doubting Thomas. I was like, don, you're calling the shot. You're like, it's done.
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Donald Trump Jr.
It's done, it's done. And, you know, the next day we did that. And what was so great about it for me was how well it was received. Like, people actually wanted this stuff. And when you talk to Bobby and again, you know, when I first, you know, I'm an attack dog, right when he first came out, it's like, I'm going to attack. And then I got to know him and start listening to the points. I'm like, this is exactly who I'd want at HHS or, you know, looking into the food and it's again, create the transparency, let people. The biggest thing that Doge can do isn't even the action. It's showing the American people the trillions of dollars we have wasted on nonsense, on garbage. Once they do that, once the American people have an understanding, it won't continue. But it's the stuff that happens behind closed doors that no one really understands and they just assume it's being spent well, all of these things. And basically the same thing happened with Tulsi, who I think will also do a great job there. So it's great to have this sort of large tent. We've always talked about that for a while. We've welcomed so many and we've seen that play out certainly in the electorate. But watching the Democrats basically eat their own, for anyone who's not 100% in line with their insane talking points about 3 year olds should be able to get gender affirming care without parental consent. It's like they'd lost their minds and they killed anyone who was reasonable, who didn't just buy into the narrative. And when you look at the diverse parties that are involved now, the background, I mean, how many former Democrats that have just woken up that are now a part of this administration, I mean, it's incredible. I mean, this is actually a much more real representation of America than anything the Democrats have put up in maybe ever.
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Charlie Kirk
So I want to open up to the audience in a second, Don, but I'm going to ask about just the questions I get a lot about your father, about how he operates, because it really is unlike anything we've ever seen. And I mean from the stamina to the capacity to not just campaign, but just this life force. And I mean, you've seen it your entire life. I mean, one story that I could tell just from three days, we were hosting President Trump back to back in Georgia and then Vegas. I did a couple campus events in between a couple red eyes and I was like destroyed. And President Trump had like four campaign events a day. Went from Georgia to obviously Palm beach to, to Palm beach to Arizona, Arizona to Nevada, did two events in Nevada, then went and did Rogan's show, then attend to Michigan, came back to 3am he ended up spending 72 hours awake straight before the election. Is that an exaggeration done? No, he did not sleep for three days straight. I mean, this guy is 78 years old. I mean, just. It's unbelievable, right?
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Donald Trump Jr.
It is, it's. I've seen it sort of my whole life. I used to get when I was younger and dumber, maybe a little wilder on the weekends. Like I'd get a call at like a Saturday morning at 5am let's just say I was probably not in the best shape of my life at 5:00 in the morning, my early 20s on a Saturday. And you know, he'd be like, hey, why aren't you in the office? I'm like, you know, smart ass Don. It's like, why aren't you in the office? Like I am in the office. I'm standing in your office right now. And that's why I know you're not here. I'm like, give me 20 minutes, I'll be there. Gonna hurt? No, but you know, you saw that with Rogan. I saw it. You know, I mean, I saw it just, you know, the day before the election. I mean, you know, I consider myself a reasonably high energy individual. We've seen what happens to low energy individuals. I'd get, you know, thrown out the window of Trump Tower. That doesn't work in our family. And you know, the two days before the election I, you know, I watched him literally pull, pull two all nighters in a row. And I was, I was there and he was doing most of the speaking. This was actually. I'm the guy that, unlike most in politics, I don't just show up to be in the selfie in the background to be able to show people I was doing something. I say, let him do his thing. You don't need two Trump's in a room. Send me where he can't be. I'm not looking for credit, I don't do that. But the last basically two days I wanted to be there just because of the historical moment. I just wanted to. And we had done everything we needed to do and I'm watching him do this and literally two all nighters in a row and I'm dying and he's playing like loud music on the plane at 4 in the morning. I'm like, I just want to die. Like, I'm like, what is going on here? You know, and then I'm watching. We land, it's 6am, I get home, I take a shower, I'm gonna go try to take a nap for two hours before I get back on TV. And 7am I'm seeing him on TV and he's just going on through the day. And then we go into election night and it's, you know, another night where he left the, you know, the auditorium at like 5, 6 in the morning.
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Charlie Kirk
72 hours he's 78 years old.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Like, I'm 46, and I'm like, I'm dying. And I don't think anyone's ever accused me of being low energy. So it's like, you know, that's a. That's a pretty solid benchmark. I mean, it's just. It is.
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Charlie Kirk
Where does that come from, Don, is.
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Donald Trump Jr.
That he's just always had it. He's never been much of a sleeper. He's always been, you know, passionate. He's a. He's a true competitor, and he actually does better. You know, most people fail under pressure. He's one of those guys that just does better. Right. We talked about resilience when we started this, and, you know, when you look at the times he's been counted out, whether it was in business, whether it was like, just. He just continues to be able to fight back. And when he's put under that pressure, he just does better. I don't think we'll ever see anything like that in politics again.
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Charlie Kirk
Do you think that the four years off that we had exile was good for us?
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Donald Trump Jr.
100%? Like, it's not even. And trust me, as one of the most subpoenaed human beings in the history of the world, as you know, I don't know how many people. I don't think there's too many people that have done more than 50 hours of congressional testimony than me. So, like, that was another, you know. You know, the four years of hell that we went through. Whether it's the lawfare, the, you know, just everything, the lawfare, the exile, the. The attempt of the swamp to push us out, the attempt of the Republican Party to push, you know, sort of MAGA out. That was brutal. It sucked. But had we actually. Well, I think we won in 2020, just to be clear. But had we. Had we just continue. And by the way, I think based on the stats that we saw, where it's just one year, they, like. I think everyone else agrees with that. Now, even. Even the Democrats, probably. They may not say it out loud, but I think everyone knows. I think the reality is, had we just stayed in office in 2020, you would have had the same guys that were there who didn't really belong, that were, you know, some of whom are fine, you know, maybe two or three guys that were great, but, like, not many. You would have had those same people that were the unelected bureaucrats. They just know better. So they're gonna subvert the will of the people. They're gonna subvert the duly Elected president of the United States. They'll kick the can down the road. They're gonna slow roll it. Now we're starting from scratch.
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Charlie Kirk
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Donald Trump Jr.
We'Re starting from scratch with people who are the true loyalists, the people who get it, the people. You know, the concentric circles of politics are interesting, right? There's like, there's like loyal, there's competent, and, you know, there's a very small intersection where those things overlap. You know, we actually know who. Listen, I appreciate the loyalty is incredible. I love that. But like doesn't mean you should be like, you know, somewhere in the chain of command, not, you know, everyone who's loyal thinks they should be, you know, the secretary of state or, you know, it doesn't always work that way. Guys, I love you, but like, let's be real, you know, now we know where that concentric circle is in. Putting these people into those positions is so powerful. I think again you see the reaction from the swamp, both the Democrats and even some of the establishment Republicans, when they saw this going on, they're losing their minds because they understand this is the one true threat to their hegemony. I think in hindsight, they're looking back and be like, you know what, we should have just let it go. Joe Biden didn't exactly do a lot for the Democrat party. Running Kamala Harris in sort of a coup probably didn't do a lot for the Democrat party. I think it actually did us a lot of favors. It opened up a lot of eyes to the insanity, to the lies. They Were able to cover that up so much more effectively than Leon passed. That's done. And so I'm actually the most grateful guy that we actually did it this way, then just had an eight year straight term. Because I think what we can do now is exponential. What we can do now could forever change the game. And that's something that's grossly needed.
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Charlie Kirk
You think about it, us with four years in exile, it got rid of all the bad guys without us, like, overnight.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Well, they exposed themselves on January 7, by definition, for the coming months. And so now we, during the primary.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah. And we rebuild the government with people that are really good, that know why they're there. I mean, you look across the board. Cash Patel as FBI director and Tulsi, I mean, it is a rock star team. Let's get to some questions here. Daisy, we have a roving mic. The emphasis on the word questions, not speeches. So, Daisy, why don't you go pick some people and we'll go from there.
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Daisy
Thank you for coming. Don, your dad said that in a tweet a few months ago that he would go after any shenanigans in regard to elections. And we know there was some funny business that went on here in Arizona with Kerry Lake, also in Michigan, Wisconsin and Nevada. Will there be any kind of. Or can you speak to your father's resolve to try to investigate and see what happened in these states?
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Donald Trump Jr.
Yeah, listen, I think he still understands that there's issues. The reality is what we have to do. And that's why it's not just about Trump. It's about electing down ballot people. I mean, it's still a states rights issue. Right. The problem is one guy at the federal government isn't going to be able to fix that. Now you can pressure the states to do that. He obviously has the platform to be able to push that. But that's why it's not just about Trump. It's why when I'm looking at people, they're like, well, you know, I voted for Trump, but I, you know, but Ruben Gallego would seem like a good guy. Like, it's like, no, like, these are the people. You saw that in some of these places. You saw Democrats in Michigan and Pennsylvania running ads. We support Trump. We're with him on this. It's like you voted with Joe Biden 99% of the time. Like, you don't support, support Trump. You are there to block Trump. You'll say whatever you need to do to get elected. So what we have to do is make sure again, we're not just focusing on that high level, you know, presidency, Senate seat, House seat. We got to be going all the way down to dog catcher so that we could hold these states accountable and make sure that that happens at the state level where these things ultimately should happen. You know, there's a component. I'd love to be able to see something happen there, but, you know, I could also see the federal government really screwing up elections if they became federalized.
- [28:39]
Charlie Kirk
Yeah. And I can. From the election standpoint. Here's something I think that the Department of Justice needs to do and should do, which is we need to investigate Act Blue, which is the funding mechanism for the Democrat Party. And that might not strike you as election fraud. However, I believe there is illegal foreign money that is being pumped into our election system and is currently corrupting the way that we're able to choose our leaders. Daisy, next question.
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Unknown Speaker
First of all, I want to thank you, Charlie Kirk. I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for my daughter seeing you at Hospitality hall up in Las Vegas, unlv.
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Charlie Kirk
Awesome. Thank you.
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Unknown Speaker
Number two, is there any way that you can help me get a picture with Scott Pressler because of what he did for Pennsylvania?
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Charlie Kirk
Only for our members. We'll get you a picture with Scott Pressler. How about that?
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Unknown Speaker
And Robert Barnes. I want to shout out to Robert Barnes for what he did with Amos Miller. Thank you.
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Charlie Kirk
Okay, great. Let's get to the next question. Well, actually, it was a question she wanted. Can you get me a picture with Scott Pressler?
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Donald Trump Jr.
Yes. Good.
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Unknown Speaker
Hi there. I would very much like you to sign the book. I've been lugging. Lugging around, too, Charlie, but can you.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Please put that in question form?
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah, I'm about to.
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Donald Trump Jr.
This is Jeopardy.
- [29:53]
Unknown Speaker
And I did come here to meet my husband because Charlie said I was going to meet him, but I live in a now super sanctuary area in San Diego. They just voted for it to be a super sanctuary. Ridiculous. And I. So it's kind of just a curious thing. What are your thoughts on term limits? Because I feel like there's pro and cons. If we actually have somebody that we love in office, then serve forever. But I would like people like Nancy Pelosi to, you know, get very sick. Sorry, that was mean. And I love Jesus. Really, I do.
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Donald Trump Jr.
It's like, I love Term limits on paper. I am worried. The one concern about it is that basically what ends up happening is that the staffers, you know, end up being the sort of unelected bureaucracy. Right. They sort of know how it works. The reality is you don't become a congressman and in two weeks you understand how it works where you carry any clout. And that's not just because of tenure. That's just because you have to figure out how that game is played. People coming from the outside world, especially from our side, where you have people that will take a chance from the outside world and go in from business, it's just a different game politically. So, you know, I'm for it generally when you have the dinosaurs that have been there. But you have to give people enough time to be able to get their sea legs. Otherwise you have some staffer that may or may not at all be with you that's sort of guiding and, or manipulating the elected individual and creating a lot of headaches. So, you know, I love it on paper, but it's not quite as simple as we'd probably all like it to be. In terms of term limits, does this work?
- [31:33]
Charlie Kirk
Does this work? Yeah, it works. So it's a great question. I am in favor of term limits, but California is actually an example of how it doesn't solve all your problems. California has some of the most robust term limits in the country for state representatives and state senators and governors and look at what it's done. So, but I will say out of the 10 states that have term limits, nine out of 10 are really well run. California could be called the exception to the rule. But if you think term limits will solve all of your problems, it won't. However, I do think it's necessary because having these multiple decade ruling class oligarchs like McConnell and Pelosi is totally unhealthy and it's wrong. So therefore, let's think maybe we need term limits both for Capitol Hill staffers and making sure that Capitol Hill staffers can't do the revolving door and then become lobbyists afterwards.
- [32:18]
Donald Trump Jr.
That's to me the bigger one. That's the bigger making sure that these people don't just get to go and cycle onto the boards of the companies that they've been overpaying and, or not negotiating for and doing sweetheart deals for. Yeah, because we see that in the military, you know, no general's gonna negotiate with Boeing or Raytheon. They just buy the missile at whatever they say it's gonna be because, you know, they know what their off ramp is. It's be on that board, you know, so that, that creates a big headache.
- [32:44]
Charlie Kirk
A screwed up incentive.
- [32:45]
Donald Trump Jr.
But we also have to get rid of the, this notion that just, you get on these ranking committees and these important committees because you've been there longer. And maybe this is where the term limits come because you have people that actually understand banking in Congress but they don't get to get on those committees because they haven't sat there for 37 years. So instead you end up with an that that wouldn't know how a mortgage works, making trillion dollar decisions with no business doing so simply because they've been there longer but have no actual subject matter expertise. And that to me is one of the most scary things. Probably far more scary than just them being there for a long time.
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Charlie Kirk
Excellent. Next question.
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Unknown Speaker
Charlie, we have a 10 year old member here.
- [33:29]
Charlie Kirk
My mom said if I asked this she would give me $100.
- [33:32]
Donald Trump Jr.
So speak money. I want a piece of this action.
- [33:39]
Charlie Kirk
Will you do the trump dance with me?
- [33:48]
Donald Trump Jr.
I may have left rhythm than DJT so that's right.
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Charlie Kirk
She gets $100 for that. How great is that?
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Unknown Speaker
If anyone else wants to give her.
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$100, feel free as well.
- [34:14]
Hi Don, I'm hope I'm not doing the wrong thing, but I am a music artist in Los Angeles. I've created what I consider is the music video that glorifies your father like nothing. I've been been in music all my life and produced it. It's@trumpsongs.com and I've been trying to get to your father with Ariel Banner.
- [34:38]
Charlie Kirk
So the question is should we visit the website?
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Unknown Speaker
Please.
- [34:42]
Charlie Kirk
Trumpsongs.com thank you very much. Check it out.
- [34:44]
Donald Trump Jr.
Thank you man.
- [34:47]
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- [35:49]
Unknown Speaker
Hi, I'm a international student athlete from Ontario, Canada. And.
- [36:00]
Charlie Kirk
You got a bad governor there.
- [36:05]
Unknown Speaker
I mean, I came to America just one, to play my sport golf, two, to study and three, just to be able to get a job into America. And I was wondering because of what everything's going on right now and like a lot of the immigration borders, what's to come with visas, Are they going to change just because it's very difficult for me to secure a visa right now?
- [36:27]
Donald Trump Jr.
Listen, I think we're actually very pro immigration, but we want to be a meritocracy, right? We want it to be based on merit. We want people to bring value. If you look at people from around the world that want to come into America, there's hundreds of thousands of people that are competent that would bring add value but they're not going to be reliable Democrat voters because of that. Right? So you know, there's a reason why even under this administration, you know, if you're an immigrant coming from Cuba or Venezuela and you end up on the shores of Florida, you don't get the same treatment as if you're coming across the southern border because what you're escaping is what the Democrats are trying to bring here. And so we're definitely pro immigration. And again, someone who adds value and isn't just going to be a drain on society is something we definitely want. We want to encourage that. We want growth. Frankly, growth is the only thing that's going to get us out of the debt hell hole that we've been living in. $35 trillion. And so if I think, you know, that's something that we're definitely looking at and making sure we're going to change.
- [37:27]
Charlie Kirk
We want Elon Musk's, not Elon Omar's. Remember that? Elon Musk's, not Elon Omar's.
- [37:34]
Donald Trump Jr.
I like that.
- [37:35]
Charlie Kirk
You could take it. It's a Charlie Kirk original.
- [37:37]
Donald Trump Jr.
I may be stealing that.
- [37:38]
Charlie Kirk
Thank you.
- [37:38]
Donald Trump Jr.
Yeah.
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Unknown Speaker
Hi guys. I just wanted to say thank you for everything that you do. This was my first election voting and I listen to you every day, Charlie. So thank you for all that you do. My question is, will President elect Donald Trump finally ban Congress in the Senate from insider trading as no one is above law?
- [38:02]
Charlie Kirk
I'll start. This is a problem is that it would require Congress to pass it upon themselves.
- [38:08]
Donald Trump Jr.
It's why they don't have to participate in Obamacare either, Right?
- [38:10]
Charlie Kirk
Exactly. So what I think we need to do, and this is why I love Doge, is that the more awareness, the better. So I think that the wind that, that the window on insider congressional stock trading is closing partially because online you can track the stock deals of what these guys are doing. I mean, like Nancy Pelosi stock portfolio is up.
- [38:30]
Donald Trump Jr.
She makes Warren Buffett look like a baby investor, like a moron compared to Nancy Pelosi. It's almost shocking. It's hard to believe, honestly.
- [38:37]
Charlie Kirk
We need to get to a place where the law is. If you're a member of Congress, you should live under the same ethics laws that White House staffers live under. And the White House staffer laws is you must put all of your stuff in a blind trust. You know this Don. So why is it that members of Congress who have the constitutionally allowed power of the purse can actively trade stocks, but somebody who works in the White House, even as a low level White House staffer, can't trade stocks? So if you are a government employee in Congress or the White House live under the same standard, it's such an easy fix. Just say what the White House staffers do. Members of Congress do blind trust. You cannot actively trade stocks that you yourself are doing business for. These guys are on these committees doing deals for electric vehicles and then getting out of those meetings, calling their stockbroker and say, go buy 3,000 shares of Tesla. I mean, it is corrupt. It's wrong. And so it's something I think the President hopefully will shine a light on, or family members. No, that's exactly right. Well, I mean, yeah, Pelosi's husband does the same thing. And that. So it is a. Is a deeper structural problem. And again, when you had. When you talk to these members of Congress, they always like, evade and dodge this question, but. And by the way, how repulsive. Yesterday they were trying to give themselves a 40, I think a 74% increase, pay increase to $247,000 a year.
- [39:52]
Donald Trump Jr.
How about this? I'm all for it if they balance the budget. Yeah. But I sort of feel like you get paid to actually do your job. Like you gotta earn a raise. And I have no problem incentivizing someone to actually get something done, but they're definitely not gonna do that. So I'm not too worried about it.
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Charlie Kirk
All right, one or two more. Yep. Daisy.
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Unknown Speaker
Hi. I'm from the great purple state of Iowa. So to form all my grievances into a single question, do I even have to ask it? How in the heck and I just got a call on my way over here tonight. How in the heck do we organize? Because we are a purple state to get rid of. We call her Joanie Wonder Bread Ernst because she wears Wonder Bread bags on her feet. That's the story she tells. So, and, and we, we, we got President Trump through in spite of our political class.
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Charlie Kirk
You mean Ann Seltzer wasn't right about Iowa? Yeah.
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Unknown Speaker
You know, when we got the call that Saturday night, people were freaking out and all of us who knew, we just laughed about it. And I have to say I was really disappointed for the first time in my life that I wasn't a subscriber to the Des Moines Register because I was asked to be a plaintiff, but I had to subscribe to the paper.
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Charlie Kirk
Just so you guys know, the President is suing the Des Moines Register for that poll and for good reason. John, do you want to comment on that? On Iowa?
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Donald Trump Jr.
Listen, it's just another example of sort of what the media did. There was a reason. What was it? Governor Pritzker basically was talking about the poll in some meetings before it even came out, which is a huge ethical violation as a pollster. So this was a poll that was designed to dissuade people from getting out. It was designed to demoralize. And I've said this in my stump speeches, it's sort of. I ignore most of the polling these days cuz it feels like half of it is designed to demoralize you, so you stay at home. The other half is designed to make you overconfident so you stay at home. That's what this was. I mean, I saw it. I'm like, we're gonna lose Iowa by three. Well, if we lose Iowa, like, we're not gonna win a single, you know, you know, other swing stadium.
- [42:08]
Charlie Kirk
We'd lose Arizona by 10, we'd lose.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Arizona by 10, we'd have lost North Carolina by four. We'd, you know, so it was so ludicrous. But if you weren't in the know and you didn't understand it, like, you know, Charlie and I were doing this every day. There are people that were like, oh my God, like we're in serious trouble.
- [42:24]
Charlie Kirk
I was even second guessing because, I mean, remember she had a really good track record up until that time of being accurate and honest.
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Donald Trump Jr.
And they were more than happy to flaunt that. When the poll came out, right, it was the media that then took it. This was the most accurate pollster in whatever, you know, for whatever it was. So they were trying to do whatever they could to get Kamala Harris those extra votes. And again, this is the kind of, I mean, it should be illegal to be that glaringly, flagrantly off to be talking about it with other far left leaning governors beforehand. That's clear. That this was a setup and designed and intended for one purpose and one purpose alone. And it was not to educate the public.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah. And I would just comment. You have a great. I don't know if you like her or not. Your attorney General, I think is better than Joni Ernst. Yes. No. Yes. Yeah. Okay, good. She should primary Joni Ernst. That, that is the answer to the question. Final question here. Yeah.
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Unknown Speaker
Hi. I was just wondering if you could.
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Go back in time to when you.
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Were around 25, what advice would you give yourself?
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Donald Trump Jr.
You first, speaking from a 25 year old.
- [43:28]
Charlie Kirk
Don'T get involved.
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Donald Trump Jr.
Yeah. Stay out of politics. No, actually the opposite. Probably get more involved in politics. It was sort of interesting for me. Like, you know, I was always political, but I also grew up in New York City. I was building buildings in, you know, liberal cities. Chicago, New York, you know, all over the place. So while I was a lifelong conservative, my first political fundraiser ever was for Andrew Cuomo. And the reason being like, he was the Attorney General of the state of New York. If you're building a building, you get an offering plan. It's a book about this thick that you can't sell it without the attorney general signing off. So you play that game. But for me, being able to do this, get out, it was actually very freeing because once I got out of New York, and it wasn't just that it actually opened so many doors for me, it was incredibly cathartic, frankly, once we did get into politics, even in New York, as the sort of fake friends that sort of knew who I was for 10, 15 years prior to that college, high school, whatever, that, that turned on you so quickly just because I became vocal, even if they understood what I was, you're sweeping them off the table. Not having to do that sort of like annual obligatory lunch that you got to do it because it's a friend from college. It just gave me a clean slate and I'm just so happy for it now. And when I look at the opportunity for our country, as a guy that has five young kids, you know, nothing could be more important. So get involved, stay involved, Be unafraid and fight.
- [44:51]
Charlie Kirk
I love it. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always, freedom charliekirk.com thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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Unknown Speaker
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