ICE Is BACK ft. Secretary Kristi Noem

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Charlie Kirk Show – "ICE Is BACK ft. Secretary Kristi Noem"

Release Date: July 18, 2025
Host: Charlie Kirk
Guest: Christine Ohm, Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)

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1. Introduction

Charlie Kirk opens the episode by introducing Secretary Christine Ohm, commending her leadership and the effectiveness of Turning Point USA, an organization founded by Kirk that mobilizes youth on campuses nationwide.

Notable Quote:

• Charlie Kirk (00:16): "Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks."

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2. Current State of Border Security and Deportations

Secretary Ohm discusses the recent successes in border security, highlighting a significant drop in illegal entries over the past two months, attributing stringent measures to the current administration's efforts.

Key Points:

• Record Deportation Rates: Over the past two years, ICE has achieved unprecedented deportation numbers.
• Zero Illegal Entries Recently: "For the last two months we've had zero illegal aliens come into this country at all." (01:52)

Notable Quote:

• Christine Ohm (01:42): "We are at record deportation rates. The border is secure."

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3. Estimating the Undocumented Population

The conversation delves into the challenges of quantifying the exact number of undocumented immigrants in the U.S., emphasizing reliance on estimates based on apprehended individuals and known data gaps.

Key Points:

• Estimated Undocumented Population: Up to 21 million over the last four years. (02:02)
• Challenges in Tracking "Gotaways": Numerous individuals evade detection, complicating accurate counts.

Notable Quote:

• Christine Ohm (02:22): "We think we today could have upwards up to 21 million."

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4. Combating Fraudulent Asylum Claims

Secretary Ohm outlines the administration's efforts to dismantle fraudulent asylum claims, stressing rigorous vetting processes to ensure only legitimate cases are approved.

Key Points:

• Terrorist Removal: Over 600 known and suspected terrorists have been deported in the last six months. (04:29)
• Criminal Operations: Operations have targeted violent criminals, including child predators and gang members. (04:57)

Notable Quote:

• Christine Ohm (04:29): "We've removed over 600 known and suspected terrorists out of this country."

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5. Technological Advancements in Homeland Security

The discussion shifts to the role of technology in enhancing border security, including the use of advanced scanning systems to inspect shipping containers and curb illegal drug trafficking.

Key Points:

• Shipping Container Scanning: Current methods inspect less than 1% of containers, allowing illicit drugs to flow into the U.S. (11:53)
• Upcoming Technological Investments: Funds from recent legislation will support new scanning technologies for better enforcement. (11:38)

Notable Quote:

• Christine Ohm (11:58): "We will have the technology then to scan packages and shipping containers and air freight."

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6. Asylum Policy Reforms

Secretary Ohm addresses reforms to asylum policies, differentiating between legitimate asylum seekers facing life-threatening situations and those fleeing economic hardships.

Key Points:

• Strict Asylum Criteria: Only individuals threatened by their government can qualify for asylum. (20:02)
• Reversal of Previous Policies: The administration has rescinded temporary protected statuses granted under the Biden era, allowing for increased removals. (18:57)

Notable Quote:

• Christine Ohm (20:02): "We will grant asylum according to how it was defined by the law and by Congress."

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7. Cooperation with Local Law Enforcement and Sanctuary Cities

The conversation highlights tensions between federal immigration enforcement and sanctuary cities, emphasizing the challenges faced by ICE officers in areas resistant to cooperation.

Key Points:

• Limited Support in Sanctuary Cities: Operations often proceed without local police backup, increasing risks for officers. (21:58)
• Prosecution of Non-Cooperative Officials: Efforts are underway to hold mayors and local officials accountable for obstructing federal law enforcement. (24:23)

Notable Quote:

• Christine Ohm (22:20): "If you talk to the officers that are on the ground, they want to be supportive of these efforts."

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8. TSA Reforms and Airport Security Enhancements

Secretary Ohm shares initiatives to reform the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), aiming to streamline security processes while maintaining safety standards.

Key Points:

• Reevaluation of Security Procedures: Eliminating unnecessary measures like shoe removal to expedite passenger processing. (25:42)
• Future Vision: Envisions a seamless security experience where passengers can walk directly to their gates without prolonged checks. (26:34)

Notable Quote:

• Christine Ohm (26:18): "What's possible with what I'm working towards is what's possible at these airports is that you walk in the door with your carry on bag, you just walk through a screener and keep going."

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9. Conclusion

Charlie Kirk wraps up the episode by expressing unwavering support for Secretary Ohm and the administration's efforts to enhance national security and uphold the rule of law.

Notable Quote:

• Charlie Kirk (27:05): "We're behind you 100%. We're praying for you. And honestly, the success of your mission is, I think, the most important for President Trump's agenda."

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Final Thoughts

In this episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, Charlie engages in a comprehensive discussion with DHS Secretary Christine Ohm about the administration's robust efforts to secure U.S. borders, enhance deportation processes, and implement technological advancements in national security. The conversation underscores a commitment to enforcing immigration laws, combating fraudulent asylum claims, and reforming existing security protocols to better protect American citizens.

For more detailed insights and updates, listeners are encouraged to visit charliekirk.com.

Transcript

[Charlie Kirk]

Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here live from the Bitcoin.com studio. Over the weekend we did some amazing members only interviews at our Student Action Summit with Secretary Christine Ohm. Email me as always, freedomarliekirk.com and let me know what you think. Buckle up everybody. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

[Christine Ohm]

Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are.

[Charlie Kirk]

Lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point usa. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives. And we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of the Charlie Kirk Show, a company that specializes in gold IRAs and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble gold [e-mail] that is noblegoldinvestments.com it's where I buy all of my gold. Go to noblegoldinvestments.com okay, everybody, we want to maximize our time now with yet another cabinet official, with Donald Trump, the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, Christine Ohm, everybody. So, Madam Secretary.

[Christine Ohm]

Yeah, well, yes, or Christy.

[Charlie Kirk]

Or Christy. You're doing amazing. I mean, of all the different agencies that are delivering, we are at record deportation rates. The border is. What is happening on the border?

[Christine Ohm]

The border is secure. For the last two months we've had zero illegal aliens come into this country at all. Zero even try. So it's been fantastic.

[Charlie Kirk]

And what was it a year ago?

[Christine Ohm]

Oh, I don't even know. Tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands a month. We literally had 21 million people come into this country illegally over the last four years.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's an interesting question. You're in the Department of Homeland Security. You're tasked with, you know, interior enforcement and obviously, I guess border. Do we even know how many illegals are in our country?

[Christine Ohm]

That is our estimate is that those that we know about, those that we don't know about, known gotaways. And then the estimates based on what the traffic was was that during the Biden administration we had millions and millions come in, but we think we today could have upwards up to 21 million.

[Charlie Kirk]

21 million. And so again, these are just approximations.

[Christine Ohm]

Yes.

[Charlie Kirk]

And. But 10 came across under Joe Biden. Ish. Is that right?

[Christine Ohm]

Correct.

[Charlie Kirk]

And so can you. So how many were got aways versus the kind of fraudulent asylum scam that was being run?

[Christine Ohm]

I wish I knew that. Exactly. We know there are millions of gotaways that, that we don't have a record or a database on. I would say that every day that we're out doing our operations which are specifically targeted towards the worst of the worst. There's those that are with them that we had no idea that they existed, that they were individuals that are affiliated with them. People that are in the country that when we go back in and run their IDs through CBP or through other entities, Interpol or other countries that have them on their extradition lists, there are individuals that weren't on our radar. So I think what's the most remarkable about this president is that since he's been in office for the last six months, we've removed over 600 known and suspected terrorists out of this country. It's incredible, which is incredible. These are folks that are known terrorists. And then if you go on and beyond the six that he has designated as foreign terrorist organizations, as far as gangs and cartel members, tens of thousands of those individuals we've swept up off our streets. We were talking today that just here in Tampa, some of the worst of the worst we've removed in the last several weeks have been child pedophiles, some that were producing child pornography and distributing it, a child rapist, a murderer, one that was guilty of sexual assault on a 12 year old. These are individuals that just here in this area that our HSI and ICE officers have been able to remove from the streets. And so the fact that those individuals have been out on our streets for years perpetuating crimes is really unbelievable.

[Charlie Kirk]

So how many terrorists on the watch list?

[Christine Ohm]

You said 600 known and suspected terrorists that we have been able to sweep up and remove from this.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's simultaneous, that's incredible, but simultaneously chilling. How many other terrorists are out there?

[Christine Ohm]

Well, and that's the issue is that how many are there that we don't know about? And we've been, I've gone TO I think 10 different countries now and visited with our presidents and their leaderships and talked to them about sharing security information, extradition agreements that we can negotiate with them on their worst of the worst. Who can we return to them and what information can they give us? How can we share the data, the biometric information that they may have and how we can get them to cooperate with us in taking back their citizens or being a third country that we can utilize to help put people in that we want out of this country as soon as possible.

[Charlie Kirk]

What is ICE Block and what. What can we do? I think that's what it's called. Right?

[Christine Ohm]

You mean as far as the ICE Watch app that they're using to.

[Charlie Kirk]

And so why can't we just shut it down? Like, people are very fired up about this.

[Christine Ohm]

Well, I can't really speak to all the specifics of what we're doing within the Department of Homeland Security against that app, but I will tell you, we're going at it from every method we possibly can. Litigation. We're also looking at prosecution with the Department of Justice on what they have the opportunity to do. We need to better, as a government partner, with our private industry, technology experts, private industry. We have not done a good job working with them in the technology field to see what we can do to get in front of these kinds of advancements and how they use our technology against us and the operations that we have. So that's one of the things that Elon and his team brought to the table so much that was so innovative, was they were constantly giving us new technology that we could use to go out and to target the worst of the worst and get in front of them. And then even activities such as that where they're exposing our ICE operations and our officers to danger.

[Charlie Kirk]

One of the brilliant strategies that you are using is that it's not just about deportation, but also self deportation. I love the ads. Don't you love the ads? Do you see them on tv? And so what is the. How does that couple with self deportation? Correct me if I'm wrong. You'll actually give people 1000 bucks if they return back home.

[Christine Ohm]

Yeah. We think that right now we have over a million illegal aliens that have left the workforce here in the United States and have gone home already by self deportation. They said that from all of our intelligence analysts. From what we've done in other countries on why people are returning to their countries is because of the C COP videos and the videos of Alligator Alcatraz that when you show the consequences.

[Charlie Kirk]

Do we like Alligator Alcatraz, everybody?

[Christine Ohm]

Yeah. When you show the fact that there's consequences for staying here illegally and that you will have to leave and you won't ever get the chance to come back. That people are self deporting. So, yeah, if they want to go home. And I just had a press conference a little over, I don't know, an hour or two ago that talked about the fact that if you self deport, we Will buy you a plane ticket. When you land there, we will give you $1,000 that you can use to help get your life started, to buy food or rent a place. But also as part of these trips to these countries, what I've done is negotiate in some of these countries and visit with these leadership teams and presidents about the fact that you can establish programs for your own people in your own country. So Guatemala, Honduras, Panama, some of these countries have started their own programs where they're loaning their civilians money so they can buy houses, giving them dollars so that they have education, they have a training program that they can, when they come home, fill the jobs that they have there. So now these individuals that are in our country illegally know I can get a ticket home. And when I get there, my country will train me for a job. I'll be able to get a loan for a house. My kids will get a scholarship for an education. I have a future in my own country. And we believe that that's why they're going to. They're going home, and they're gaining momentum and doing that every day.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Christine Ohm]

That's correct. In fact, I have one of the top three largest departments in the federal Government, but one of the smallest budgets. I think I'm in the bottom two or three.

[Charlie Kirk]

I wonder why.

[Christine Ohm]

I don't know. It was such a. You know, you would think homeland security would be our number one priority beyond our national defense. Correct? Because the partnership is so incredible. But yes. So we will have 10,000 new ICE officers funded through that bill. 5,000 new CBP officers. Also, just what we need for training and equipment. When President Trump during his first administration built the wall, he built the infrastructure of it, but the technology didn't get installed. So the technology, as far as surveillance equipment, what we need for drones, what we need for counter drone activity, taking out weapons systems. Our Coast Guard is getting a whole new force design. They are the tip of the spear of our national security strategy.

[Charlie Kirk]

Under dhs.

[Christine Ohm]

It's under dhs, so I have the Coast Guard, Secret Service, we have weapons of mass destruction under dhs. We also have cisa, which is the Cyber Security Agency. Huge, huge of the nation. But our job is to not only have jurisdiction over every person that's in this country and who comes and goes, but also every product that comes into our country or leaves all the ports of entry. All of the tariffs are collected by CBP and remitted to the federal government.

[Charlie Kirk]

You guys are doing a great job with that.

[Christine Ohm]

Yeah, they have done a fantastic job in collecting and assessing that the appropriate duties are. Are there when it needs to be adjusted because the President has made a new decision.

[Charlie Kirk]

Also, the companies will lie sometimes. What's in their containers?

[Christine Ohm]

Oh, absolutely.

[Charlie Kirk]

You talk to educate the audience again. So shipping is a trust system.

[Christine Ohm]

Yes.

[Charlie Kirk]

Like, it's very like handshake, brotherly. But we've learned that there is some line that goes on.

[Christine Ohm]

Very much so. Customs and Border Protection is charged with not only just what comes in our ports of entry, but also what is coming in by air or freight, small packages. So they are. Some of the dollars out of this bill will be used for technology for scanning purposes.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's so important. Everybody. Almost all the drugs in this country come through legal ports of entry. And I think it's less than half of 1% of all shipping containers get searched. Right. Because it's not possible to do it at scale unless you have technological equipment.

[Christine Ohm]

That's exactly right. And I was. I was shocked by the shipping containers that don't get scanned ever.

[Charlie Kirk]

When I learned that, I said, what do you mean? So basically, it's just a numbers game. So they know if they send 100 shipments, cargo shipments of cocaine, they'll probably get almost all 100 in maybe one will get caught. But that means 99 of them will go to the interior of the United States.

[Christine Ohm]

That's exactly right. And so we will have the technology then to scan packages and shipping containers and air freight, and we will have the ability. CBP is the oldest law enforcement agency in the nation.

[Charlie Kirk]

Is that right? What was it called?

[Christine Ohm]

I don't know. It was combined with four different law enforcement agencies. They were all separated before and combined in the custom and border protection. But they also. The reason it's so important that they collect those tariffs is because they're the first one to see that shipping container. They do the inspection on it, that it is what it is and that the duties are properly assessed. And so they collect information and keep that case and that information so that if there is a violation or that those tariffs can be assessed importantly, and then they do the law enforcement side of it, if there is a violation on what actually was in there.

[Charlie Kirk]

So you think about it, if you're a company trying to scam the United States, you're shipping in heavy machinery and you say it's lettuce.

[Christine Ohm]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

And you know, that's a. That's a lot less of a tariff, so you don't have to pay as much. You have to, have to have some integrity there. So I want to now talk about our cities.

[Christine Ohm]

Okay.

[Charlie Kirk]

Because that seems to be really where the rubber is hitting at the road, L.A. chicago, New York, to a certain extent, Denver. And walk us through what we learned, what happened recently in California, which is chilling. This last week it should have been the number one news story in the country. And what did you, what did we learn about that? And then also the fight to reclaim L. A.

[Christine Ohm]

Well, are you, are you talking about.

[Charlie Kirk]

The marijuana facility with the young kids that are working there? They're shooting at ICE agents.

[Christine Ohm]

Yeah, it is. You know, we have had a lot of big operations that we have focused on a huge background of investigative work that has gone into criminal activity. And a lot of these enforcement actions that we're taking through ICE and hsi this marijuana grow facility has been on our radar because there's been several tips and very various individuals who have notified us that there was criminal activity ongoing in this operation. It was something that we should be looking at and investigating. When we put the op down, we did scoop up, I think originally about 150 illegal aliens that were there, but those with criminal activity as well, and backgrounds. And then also now it's gotten to be over 300. I think we have 320 since then. And then we have identified now 14 unaccompanied children that were there that were working, that were being exploited, either we believe by slavery or child sexual exploitation as well, we believe could have been happening there as well. And so that kind of investigative work to build those cases and to go into an operation like that is incredibly important beyond the fact then we have a bunch of violent, crazy people that were working there, attacking our law enforcement officers and trying to kill them.

[Charlie Kirk]

Discharging a weapon.

[Christine Ohm]

Yes, absolutely. Discharging weapons, throwing rocks through the windshields of their vehicles, which we all know how deadly that can be, violently attacking them. So we will track them down and we will prosecute them with the Department of Justice and get, bring them to justice.

[Charlie Kirk]

So the. Can you, I want to talk about the cities, but you brought up something that I think our audience asks a lot about. Can you bring us up to speed on the courts and the deportation process you have to work through right now? Because our audience is a little bit unsure because it's, it's a decision, it's an appeal, it's Supreme Court, it's an injunction.

[Christine Ohm]

Well, there's always a federal judge that has an opinion that will throw out a decision that is trying to stop the Trump agenda to make our streets safer. Again, we had a decision just come out of that affected California that talked about the fact that we couldn't go in without reasonable suspicion and sweep up an individual that we thought was an illegal alien. And so we had to have a suspected reason or case as to the fact that we were going in after them and trying to bring them into our detention or into our possession. I will tell you that we were doing that anyways. We were always building reasonable suspicion. Every single case that we're pursuing, we are doing that. And going after an individual that we know is breaking our laws in this country and bringing them into justice and making sure that we're following the rule of law. What drives me a little bit crazy in is that we have the news and we have these liberals, we have these socialists, Marxists, Communists that are out there trying to stop President Trump from keeping us safe. And, and they're, they're making up stuff every single day. To stay in front of their lies is incredibly difficult. So we'll appeal this judge's decision and we'll win because the facts on the ground in California have always been that we've been operating under reasonable suspicion and every single individual is getting due process. And we're following everything by the letter of the law, every single individual that's coming into our, you know, into our possession that we are working with to get them out of our country and using our opportunities to prosecute these individuals, too.

[Charlie Kirk]

So. But is there an expedited removal? Like, do we have to give a couple years of due process to a foreigner that's here.

[Christine Ohm]

When we have final removal orders, they can be removed. We have to. There's a hearing process that you go through or a paperwork issue. It depends on what the decision is. But on final removal orders, your due process looks very different. There's nothing about due process that guarantees you that you're going to get a hearing.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes.

[Christine Ohm]

There's nothing about that that guarantees you're getting a hearing. You will just get your due process and be removed from this country.

[Charlie Kirk]

How many would you approximate people have final removal orders?

[Christine Ohm]

We know that 70% of the people that we've arrested so far have criminal charges against them. They've been convicted of or are pending.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wait, so.

[Christine Ohm]

So the other 30%, and those in the balance of it are those that have final removal orders that overstayed and didn't show up for their hearings or ig their hearings, and that the consequences of that is leaving our country.

[Charlie Kirk]

And so basically what happens is that then these final removal orders accrue over time.

[Christine Ohm]

Yes.

[Charlie Kirk]

So then I guess the question is, would the people who came through under Biden, are they actually harder to remove because they don't have final removal orders?

[Christine Ohm]

Some of them are. But we're adding integrity back to our programs that Biden abused so much. You know, for instance, he granted asylum to millions of people. He also.

[Charlie Kirk]

And you reversed that?

[Christine Ohm]

Yeah, absolutely. And he perverted many of our programs. We had a program called temporary protective status, which he gave to certain countries.

[Charlie Kirk]

So 500,000 Haitians just came in, plopped into Ohio.

[Christine Ohm]

And so President Trump has made the decision to take away temporary protected status for many of these countries so that now that they can begin to be removed from our country if they want to apply for asylum, if they truly believe that they think that they are, you know, should have a right to access our asylum programs, then they can apply for that and they can go through that process, and we'll see if they qualify under what the actual state statute says, what the law says, not how Joe Biden interpreted it.

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[Christine Ohm]

Exactly. Magic.

[Charlie Kirk]

Where now you guys have now really lengthened it that if somebody actually is seeking asylum they will then be granted it. But it's no longer just like say the magic words.

[Christine Ohm]

Yeah, we will, we will grant asylum according to how it was defined by the law and by Congress. And that is that you have to be feel like as though your life is threatened from your government in your home country. You, you going there would be a determining factor of whether you lived or died. Yes.

[Charlie Kirk]

So that's key. So not gang violence, violence, not from another poverty.

[Christine Ohm]

Correct, Correct. Not an economic factor. So it was and you know I tell people all the time I you don't like the law, fine, go change it. Go talk to Congress. I didn't get this job to decide what the law is. You know, my job is to uphold the law. And President Trump has told me, he said nobody gets treated better than anybody else. The rule applies equally to every single individual. And there's no way that people who are in this country breaking our law should be treated better than our American citizens.

[Charlie Kirk]

And I totally agree. And the, and the self deportation is so important to this. And so the, the challenge for the cities now going back to the contention how are you dealing with and I know you have private stuff you can't say so feel free to navigate the question however you can.

[Christine Ohm]

Well that's one Thing Charlie, I think people should know is because people do the Department of Homeland Security, the position is a national security position. So a lot of. A lot of what we have and what we. We do is difficult to talk about, but we'll be extremely transparent in everything that we can talk about, just because it's important for the American people to understand that President Trump is doing what they asked him to do.

[Charlie Kirk]

Amen. How are you in the ability, in the capacity? You can talk about it. Navigating these mayors and the sanctuary cities where they are protecting foreign criminal nationals. Again, these are neo confederates.

[Christine Ohm]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

That are building their own states within the union.

[Christine Ohm]

Well, when they violate the law, that is up to the Department of Justice to do prosecutions. Our job is to go out there and enforce federal law, and we can do that in these cities. Just many times when our officers are out there conducting operations, if they are in a sanctuary city or a sanctuary state, they often have to do it without backup. So no local police, which means many times the local police will not be there to have their backs in an operation.

[Charlie Kirk]

There are some cities want to be there, though.

[Christine Ohm]

If you talk to the officers that are on the ground, they want to be there and be supportive of these efforts. They recognize that we're going after people who have perpetuated violence in their neighborhoods. And they know that our ICE officers and HSI and we're working in task forces. So we've got ATF and DEA guys out there helping us, too. And in many states, you do have state law enforcement that are partnering with us, but you get into Illinois and you get into California or into New York City, it's extremely frustrating because you get into New York City, you know, they're big talkers that they're going to be big partners with us, but then we go run an op, they're not going to be there to have our backs. They're not going to be there to secure the perimeter or at least make sure that that one or two block radius is going to be okay. But in New York, at least, if you say there's an officer that needs help, they will respond. They will come and back us up if an officer gets in danger. But often that's too late. So, wait, if you get to la, that's questionable at times. I was out on an op with our LA agents one morning, and they were with us. I don't even know if I should talk about this. I guess I'm going to. They were with us. LAPD was with us on the op there, providing Backup and support. And as soon as the governor found out that I was there, he pulled the officers off. He's a consistent. Yeah, yeah. As soon as he found out that I was there with them that morning, he pulled the officers off. And then after that, he hasn't provided any agents or officers to. To go with us. So now if you look at what's going on out there with CBP and ice, the. The raid they did on that park, that was awesome. That RA park, that was an amazing raid because that was a known park for where Ms. 13 gang members.

[Charlie Kirk]

Very well known.

[Christine Ohm]

Yes, Very well known for where we have a terrorist organization. And the mayor showed up and kicked. Tried to kick CBP out. And I mean, like what Bovino did, our CBP officers said, we will go anywhere we want to go because we own this city and we're protecting it for the people who live here, not you.

[Charlie Kirk]

This is not a thing for you. I know. Because this is doj. We ought to start arresting these mayors. You cannot have these neo confederate little areas in the country. We can't put up with it. You can't have a country again. I'm very careful saying that, but if you have repeated instances, I mean, what you're saying is that if there's an officer who's in a life threatening situation and you want local police, sorry, pal, you're on your own. As if we're like, I don't know, from the consulate of Uruguay or something. That's how they treat you, Right.

[Christine Ohm]

Well. And we want the Department of Justice to win these cases and to be able to enforce the consequences. I think with. Mayor Bass has just proposed as far as paying individuals who are illegal aliens to help them evade ICE law enforcement officer. I believe that would be prosecutable.

[Charlie Kirk]

So we got to get you on stage here in about two and a half minutes. We gotta talk to the most important thing you've done, though. The thing where I was so thrilled she finally stood up to the tsa. I'm sorry. I'm telling you, I am. You will be the greatest DHS secretary in the history of. I think we should get rid of the tsa. Abolish it, Privatize it. You don't have to comment on it. You could just smile. But what you did with the shoes is a breakthrough for humanity. The deportations are fine. The shoes, big.

[Christine Ohm]

It was. It was so. I think the first day I had the job, I said to tsa, okay, tell me, like, legit. We're just making this up on the shoes, right? I mean, do we really have to take off our shoes? I really want to know if you're just why? If this actually adds anything to our security, if it actually keeps us safer in airplanes. Every single thing that we do at tsa, I've questioned. And when they came back and showed how we'd advanced in our technology and our multi layered screening process and what we've done, clearly we didn't have to be taking off our shoes. So we're got a lot of reforms coming through TSA I'm excited about.

[Charlie Kirk]

You know, I always pick your brain.

[Christine Ohm]

I know everybody.

[Charlie Kirk]

I have a theory politically that President Trump's one of his legacy will be like you used to wait 30 minutes at the airport and now you wait only 90 seconds to get through the security line. What a like imagine the quality of life improvement.

[Christine Ohm]

Well, so what's possible with what I'm working towards is what's possible at these airports is that you walk in the door with your carry on bag, you just walk through a screener and keep going and go right to your plane. I'm not kidding. So that's where we're going and we'll get there.

[Charlie Kirk]

That would be so liberating. Yes, Christy, I could say, governor, Secretary, you're doing amazing job. You got a tough job. We're behind you 100%. We're praying for you. And honestly, the success of your mission is, I think, the most important for President Trump's agenda. God bless you. Thank you so much.

[Christine Ohm]

Thank you.

[Charlie Kirk]

Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us. As always, freedom charliekirk.com thanks so much for listening and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can Trust, go to charliekirk.com.