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Ilhan's Incest, Hunter's Hard Drive, and Biden's Boondoggle with New York Post's Miranda Devine
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Hey, everybody. Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Miranda Devine, who is an American Australian treasure and she writes for the New York Post. We asked the question, did Ilan Omar marry her brother? Now you might think, oh, conspiracy Ville usa. Hold your horses. Keep drinking your coffee. Don't swerve off the side of the road. Don't drop the dumbbell on your head. Those of you that are doing tries and buys, she might have married her brother. And in fact, we go through a factual account on how Congresswoman Elon Omar might have committed tax fraud, immigration fraud. Miranda Devine has a new book called Laptop from Hell, all about Hunter Biden. And so Miranda Devine is here. Email us your thoughts. Freedom charliekirk.com and if you want to support our program, you could do so by going to charliekirk.com support Daniel from Pomona, California, thank you for your support. Michelle from Boise, Idaho, thank you for your support. Dorinda from Seattle, thank you for your support. And Tammy From Napa, California, CharlieKirk.com support I could tell you this, Tammy was not at the maskless Nancy Pelosi DCCC fundraiser. I've never met Tammy. Just a gut feeling. I don't know how many people would give to DCCC and also the Charlie Kirk show, but. But if you want to support the Charlie Kirk show, charliekirk.com Support Miranda Devine in a can't miss episode of what's Happening in Afghanistan. Ilhan Omar doing institutional incest. And Hunter Biden. Buckle up, Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
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Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are
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lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy.
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His spirit, his love of this country.
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He's done an amazing job building one
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created, Turning Point usa. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives. And we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Hey, everybody. This episode is brought to you by my friends at ExpressVPN. ExpressVPN.com Charlie Secure your device. Anonymize your online activity. Protect your action online. Expressvpn.com Charlie help our show out by also helping yourself. Protect yourself. ExpressVPN.com Charlie hey, everybody. Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show. I am so thrilled to have someone that I'm a big fan of join us today. Miranda Devine from the New York Post and also the author of a phenomenal book, Laptop from Hell, about Hunter Biden. Miranda, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
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Thanks, Charlie. Great to be with you. I'm a big fan as well.
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Thank you. So there's so much to get into. I want to start first with your piece. And I just have to say your writing is full of wisdom and wit and it's a lost art the way that you write because half of our 90% of our media has decided to be compliant and boring in exchange for money. Which is something I want to talk to you about, which is the title is Joker. Joe Biden Can't Laugh. This Afghanistan debacle off. And what you go through is basically, usually Joe Biden is able to have press coverage to cover for him and he really doesn't have to address anything head on. This one he can't hide from. Please tell us about this piece.
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Look, you do see that the media is completely different in their treatment of Joe Biden over Afghanistan than they have been in anything else during the campaign where they, you know, allowed him to hide away in Delaware. All they were determined to do, for the most part, I would say at least all the left wing media and a lot of the sort of never Trumper media was to allow him, no matter what, to beat Donald Trump. And they've really employed the same tactics to justify that decision throughout his eight month presidency until now. And that is because, you know, for the last 20 years, any journalist worth their salt has been to Afghanistan. You know, the best of them have covered that war, have interviewed the troops, the veterans, and have used Afghans as their translators, their drivers, their fixers. You know, they have personal relationships with them. So this is a bungle of epic proportions that they can't ignore. They've ignored the disaster in the southern border, which I would argue probably will be as consequential in terms of America's national security going forward. They've ignored that. They give Joe Biden a free pass as they have pretty much his entire career. But this they can't ignore. And I think that's why you're seeing that the administration is reeling. You know, Joe Biden is trying to employ the old tricks that he had. I described, you know, at that press conference on Sunday, how he just uses laughter as a weapon. He's always done that. You saw him use it to great effect against, you know, Paul Ryan in that vice presidential debate a few years ago. But it just, it rings so hollow now and it's so inappropriate. And he's gotten to the stage of cognitive decline where these old weapons, he's not deploying properly, they're backfiring and you're seeing really who Joe Biden is.
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And now that I think of it, yeah, kind of self. LAUGHTER Dismissiveness is a tool that Hillary Clinton uses and the cackle from Kamala Harris as well, without actually ever addressing directly what the real problem is. You write in this article that Joe Biden's statement was pure gaslighting. Of course it would have made a difference if the evacuation had been done while the US military still held Bagram before the Taliban took Kabul. Whom is he kidding? In April he promised the withdrawal would be done responsibly, deliberately and safely. But it's been utter chaos and the only effective is the in last, mad last scramble due to the competence of the troops on the ground. Biden was full of self congratulatory bluster and teleprompter statistics of how many people have been evacuated. So Miranda, do you think that this is actually a breaking point where there is going to finally be a check and balance against a member of the ruling class? It seems as if they get away with this and every single turn is this one different.
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I don't know. I think time will tell it really, you know, it's really up to the integrity, I guess, of the media because we haven't seen a lot of that in the last few years. And whether or not Joe Biden is held to account or whether you're seeing this sort of struggling, weak narrative come through that the Democrats are desperately trying to get up and Joe Biden does it every single time he's before the media, which is that it was a binary choice, either this catastrophe or stay in the war, the endless war forever. I mean, that's not the choice. You know, almost everybody agreed with getting out of the war. It was just the manner in which it was done. And you know, it's so obvious, it's not even complicated. It's the fact that we abandoned Bagram Air Base in the middle of the night during this, you know, absurd thing of pulling out troops before we pulled out civilians and allies. And you know, the other despicable thing about this, which hasn't quite, you know, been explored yet because there's so much going on. But Jake Sullivan actually, and I think it was him, but he certainly was one of the people who was echoing this, accused the commander of Bagram of making the decision to pull out. I mean, a, that just doesn't pass the sniff test because as if he would have the seniority to make such a catastrophic decision. But anyway, leaks, incentives that absolutely not, Scotty Miller is his name, did not authorize that. That came straight from the White House. So what a decision. And you know, what is wrong with the people around Joe Biden that they would allow a man with clearly cognitive deficits to make such a staggering decision? I mean, are they blaming Joe Biden because others behind the scenes are trying to hide behind him? I don't know. But what really, I think this episode is teaching us is that we no longer can put up with having a, even the appearance of a puppet president. You know, either Joe Biden is in charge or someone else is. And if someone else is, show their face. Who is it? Is it Ron Klain? You know, is it, I don't know who it is. There could be any number of people. The other thing we've seen is Anthony Blinken, the Secretary of State. I mean we saw that in Alaska with his completely pathetic performance against the Chinese where he sat there being berated by some functionary of President Xi. You know, that was a humiliation for America on the international stage and that gave our allies pause. And then this and that. This is Anthony Blinken all over it. So you know, there has to be some shake up personnel and it seems
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as if now we have to embrace tens of thousands of refugees by default and if we don't, then they're going to call us bigots and racists because of this sort of catastrophe that has been, let's just say, allowed to happen in the Middle East. So speaking of refugees that came to the country that shouldn't have come, you had a wonderful piece that I don't think got enough attention. This was one story that Tucker Carlson covered and you wrote about that didn't really hit full saturation because of the, the nonsense that happened in Kabul. By nonsense I mean the Taliban taking over. It was just bad timing. But it's a really important story. And this is not a conspiracy theory. This is a legitimate story that you wrote about. And I want you to go into great detail about this because you were one of the few people that have the courage to write about this. Someone who is an ingrate. Ilhan Omar, and the title of your piece is FBI Dodged Elon Omar bro wedding probe from written by you. And then it links to this website, elonomardna.com and it says that quote, allegedly direct DNA evidence from near two year global surveillance project proves Ilan Omar married her brother and committed multiple felonies. Tell us about this. Miranda this is one of the darlings of the new left. And this is the poster child of why we need more refugees, because we have more people like Ilhan Omar. Did she really marry her brother?
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DNA evidence certainly shows that she did. And this was a. I mean, this is an extraordinary story on a number of levels. I guess the foremost is that I was talking to the guy who represented the Republican group in Minnesota that had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars, gone to three continents, spent, you know, a couple of years tracking down Ilhan Omar's husband slash brother, second husband, and also Ilhan Omar and getting DNA from both of them. DNA that was. They got private investigators to do this. They have photographs of Ilhan Omar, for instance, smoking a cigarette, which was then used the saliva from that for the DNA test. And then similarly, they tracked down the husband slash brother to England and they managed to get, I think, saliva from, or DNA from a drinking straw. So the, the DNA company that tested this said there was a 99.9999-999998% match, that they were siblings. And so, you know, this, the FBI was supposed to be investigating the FBI. You would think the obvious thing they would have done, they have the power to do it, would have been a lot easier for them than for this Republican group would be to test the DNA of Ilhan Omar and her brother. She denies that she married her brother. She says it's preposterous and rude and insane. So allow her to clear her name and get this cloud away from her head. The FBI never did that. Looks like they just ran dead on the investigation. And then when a member of this Republican group actually called the FBI special agent in charge of that investigation at the Twin Cities FBI station and recorded the phone call and said, look, are you not interested in this DNA evidence that we have? And she said, look, the statute of limitations has run out on marriage fraud, which is correct. I mean, marriage fraud is a five year statute of limitations, but there's no statute of limitations on immigration fraud. And every time this guy asked the FBI special agent, well, what about immigration fraud? No statute of limitations, she just fell back and said, no, we've just been told, we've been instructed that the statute of limitations is over. Case closed. So in other words, Ilhan Omar gets away with it. And then the incredible endpoint of this story comes that within hours after I talked to this representative of the Republican group, and just hours after he made that website go live, which now is off the air, he was arrested by the FBI in a completely unrelated charges I don't know if they're true or they're not true. Who knows? But it is extremely convenient to Ilhan Omar and her supporters in that state, in the Democratic Party, that this, this person, this group that had this great evidence that was so damning against Ilhan Omar have been shut down completely. I mean, that story has just died.
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Washington Post tells us that.
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Yeah, exactly. That truth is the best disinfectant. That's what we're told. And so, but this is an extraordinary story. Here you have a woman who marries her brother allegedly to commit alleged immigration fraud, conspiracy, marriage fraud, and tax fraud. And you're saying the FBI says, oh, no, the statute of limitations has been lifted, even though it hasn't. And then the operative who does this immediately gets arrested on unrelated charges. As soon as this report gets out who's running our government,
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it's very suspicious. You know, you don't want to run crazy with conspiracy theories. Just a coincidence that the arrest happened hours after the website went live. Could be, maybe. Not maybe is, but it certainly it behooves the FBI to reassure the public that something dodgy is not happening here.
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Well, yeah, I mean, and after the FBI spied on Donald Trump and lied about it under oath for years, and went after Michael Flynn. It's a remarkable.
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He sat on Hunter Biden's laptop.
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That's right. And so. And she emigrated to Minnesota, if I'm not mistaken. Right. And the person who's in charge of this is an agent who's listed here. And you spoke to this agent directly, is that right, or.
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No, I didn't. This was a recording. It actually is on the website. If the website's back up now, you can all listen to it. It was a representative of this Republican PAC that has spent all this money and tracked down. You know, I mean, it's outrageous that private citizens have to spend their own money to go and do the job that the FBI should have done. But they did it, unfortunately, because it's a private group and they're politically. Obviously politically motivated. You know, you can't put as much store on the evidence that they've uncovered as you would if it was the FBI. But what choice do people have, you know, in. In Minnesota? I mean, I guess they're desperate because Ilhan Omar is just getting away with, you know, these alleged crimes.
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And meanwhile, Roger Stone was almost put in prison. Rudy Giuliani had his door kicked in by the FBI in the office he used to run. The Manhattan DA seems more interested in Donald Trump and his associates. Dinesh d' Souza went to jail, had probation, and was indicted for a regulatory fine. And they went after him. It's really dark stuff. It really is. And I appreciate you covering it, because they went after this guy very hard for exposing this, and it's. It's really scary. So now. Yeah, and it's. It's just kind of a pattern of our government now. I want to get to another injustice that we've seen in real time, another story that just seems to disappear, but you don't let it die. You're keeping this on life support, so God bless you for that. Because it seems that everyone's doing so many different things, which is the saga of Hunter Biden. There's so much I want to get into with this. And we can't forget the Hunter Biden story. I want to get into his venture into becoming Pablo Picasso. I want to get into his dealings with hookers and talking about Russian laptops. Just give us a Hunter Biden update, and then we'll go back into this. Where is Hunter? You know, what is he doing now? Is he kind of. Is he on the French Riviera? You know, kind of touring with the top art experts? Where. Where is this Golden Child of the regime.
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Well, hunters in Malibu, learning how to surf, getting fat and happy. I guess from the looks of the photographs and, you know, I guess what people maybe don't understand is what a large role Hunter Biden plays in his father's inner circle in terms of really giving Joe Biden advice, political advice that goes against the advice of Joe Biden's minders. You know, this is throughout the laptop, a sort of an antagonism that Hunter Biden expresses towards the. The inner sanctum of political advisers of his father, who obviously try to limit his impact and influence on his father. I would imagine. I mean, I don't know this from the laptop, because that ended basically in March 2019, but I would imagine as Joe Biden's cognitive abilities go downhill, that Hunter Biden will play an outsized role in sort of protecting him and advising him. And, you know, I don't think that's really in America's best interest. Joe Biden calls Hunter the smartest guy I know. And I would say that because. Well, a couple of reasons. I mean, you know, you get the feeling that Hunter is almost blackmailing his father throughout the laptop, especially in the latter years. You know, he's now his only son because the golden boy, Beau Biden, very tragically died of a brain tumor. He'd always been the one that Joe had groomed to be president one day, and that was. The whole family was rallying behind that. And Hunter's role was to be the bagman for the family to go and get very lucrative jobs obtained for him by Joe Biden initially through his Delaware donors. So he was paid way over the odds for his skills. You know, all sorts of doors were opened for Hunter Biden, you know, including getting a law degree from Yale and every single job and appointment and board seat that he ever had in his entire career. He's now 51. Was gratis care of his father and his father's influence. And, you know, we. It was called the Delaware Way. This sort of cronyism, this trading favors, you know, it got Joe Biden. You know, he lives like a king. So does his family. He says he's the poorest man in Congress, or he's always pretended that, but he doesn't really. You don't really need cash. When you live in a mansion and everything is paid for, who needs cash? I mean, I know billionaires that never carry wallets, because who needs one? Servants all around and jets at your disposal and mansions and servants and people paying your bills. So that's pretty Much the way Joe Biden and his family have existed. And so Hunter had, you know, I feel a bit sorry for Hunter because although he has, you know, a repellent lifestyle, very, very sort of self indulgent and has all sorts of vices that he gives into. You know, he is an addict. And I, I just kept on coming back when I was going through the laptop, which I've been doing for, you know, since October, this sort of question, which is what kind of a father puts his addicted son in front of gushing torrents of cash? And you know, he also, Hunter Biden was. When my book comes out, I think the full extent of this will be apparent. But it only became apparent, sort of unfolded for me as I burrowed deeper and deeper into the laptop. The level of access that Hunter Biden had in China and in Russia, like the very, very inner sanctum of the, the ruling classes, as close to President Xi and Vladimir Putin as you can get. And this bumbling as well. His uncle Joe's brother Jim Biden, who was sort of his role seemed to be in the family as Hunter fell apart, was to, you know, look after Hunter, pick him up when he really crashed and send him off to very expensive rehabs and just keep tabs on him. But Jim Biden is, I'm told, the sort of the brains of the operation. And he was there to make sure that Hunter and the rest of the family, including Joe, got their money's worth in the latest China deal. And the two of them bumbling around these geopolitical minefield, it just beggars belief. And you can only think that our intelligence services must have been keeping tabs on them. I mean, if they weren't, it is the, you know, utter dereliction of duty. But they must have. I mean, he had Secret Service following him for a lot of these trips. And then when he stopped the Secret Service, they must have been watching him. And I think I've come to the conclusion that, you know, when, when the Post, when we ran our stories last October, a few weeks before the election, and the rest of the media ignored it and Big Tech shut us down and, and the pretext, the fig leaf that they had was these 50 former intelligence and defense operatives, James Clapper, John Brennan, I think organized it. But, you know, the great and the good of the last few years, people who have presided over disasters and intelligence failures, that you have to say. But anyway, the, the best and the brightest of the intelligence community and they came out and they declared in this open letter that the, that the laptop. And our stories were, had the hallmarks of Russian disinformation. They never looked at the laptop. They never contacted the New York Post and asked us to have a look. It would have been probably happy to show some of it to them. But no, they, they just decided through their great expertise to completely trash our stories and the laptop and give a fig leaf to everyone else who was deciding that they weren't going to cover it. And so that story was censored and it was suppressed. It was a really important story that went to the heart of the character and the national security risks of one of the candidates who ended up being the winning candidate. And you look at polls that were taken afterwards that say that Biden voters, enough of them in battleground states, if they had known about this, if they'd known about the FBI investigation into Hunter Biden and Jim Biden, they would not have voted for Joe Biden and the election outcome would have been different. That's a really consequential censorship move. And I think that it comes from the intelligence agencies wanting to cover up their own complicity in whatever it was that we know that Hunter, Jim and Joe Biden as a partner, silent partner, but a financial partner behind the scenes when he was vice president was doing.
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In November.
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In November. Well, perfect timing, I have to say. Kind of a one year anniversary of the election. I think that's a perfect story. And I know we're previewing it. I want to make sure I heard you correctly, that in your book you were able to review contents of the laptop, is that right?
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Oh, I've had the laptop. Yes, of course. Yeah, yeah, I've scanned.
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Well, then you're more interested than the FBI is in the, in the laptop. That's so interesting.
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Well, I mean, I'm hoping that the FBI has had this laptop since December 2019. Federal agents also seized another laptop that was in, in Massachusetts, in Newburyport, Massachusetts, in the premises of one of Hunter's therapists, Keith Ablo. That was a FDA or anyway DEA raid, completely unrelated. But they seized that laptop. I'm told that that then was given back to Hunter. But we know that the FBI has at least one laptop in their possession. We also know that Rudy Giuliani and Bernie Kerrick, the former Commissioner of police for New York, drove to Delaware and gave the FBI another copy of the hard drive, which is basically a mirror image of the laptop contents because they were concerned about, you know, what they thought was sort of child porn material. I've looked at it. I don't think that is a problem. I know that's a big narrative that's been running. I don't think that. I mean, there's nothing I've seen, apart from one innocent image that that would say that Hunter Biden had any problem. You know, that's been alleged about pedophilia.
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Okay, that's a big one that people have been saying that on the laptop that, that some of it's circulating on the Chinese Internet and that came from. Is there any truth that's Photoshopped?
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Yeah, there's. There's images I've seen that have. That are. Well, they don't exist on the laptop, let me tell you that. So whether they're photoshopped or I don't know, they've got them somewhere else. And there's an image that I've seen that is sort of one image. And there are a series of that encounter with the woman that's on the laptop in which you can see that she's an adult, but the image that's circulating, you wouldn't be able to tell. You can't see her face, you wouldn't be. She just looks like a small adult woman. And so that's been offered as proof of pedophilia again, but again, it's not. That's an adult. So, look, I've seen nothing on the laptop that would indicate any interest, any sexual interest that. There's a lot of sexual material on the laptop, a lot of porn that Hunter made that he uploaded to pornhub and various other sites, but nothing that would indicate an unhealthy interest in children
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he uploaded to public websites. Is that right?
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That's right, yeah.
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That's. Yeah. If Donald Trump Jr. Did that, I think that that would probably be well covered by the. By the regime media. That would probably be known by almost everybody. Most people don't even know that. So then you also said, though, that he was in the inner sanctum of Chinese and Russian officials. Is that right? I mean, but didn't the DOJ just arrest Tom Barrack for doing something similar to that being in the inner sanctum of an Arab nation, if I remember correctly? How is this not against foreign agent laws?
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Well, look, I mean, that's what the FBI is looking at, obviously. I mean, that's one of the. There are several investigations going on into Hunter Biden and Jim Biden. But on Hunter, we're told, I mean, he's admitted himself that they're looking federal authorities looking into tax issues. He says he's very confident that he'll get out of that. And there certainly is a lot of evidence on the laptop after his partner, Devon Archer was arrested and convicted and then conviction overturned and then upheld. And he's waiting sentencing and he doesn't seem to be at all concerned about it. But anyway, after Devon Archer was arrested, there was a lot of activity going on with lots of accountants and lawyers basically cleaning up Hunter's affairs. And I mean, it's perfectly legal to pay taxes that you've neglected to pay in previous years and pay, obviously, fines as well. And he did all that. So there may not be nothing that comes from that. I don't know. And then fara Foreign Agent Registration Act. I mean, you know, I don't see how there's not some violation of that that you can, you know, that's alleged that you can see on the laptop, but that's something that the FBI will be looking at. And remember, this is a violation that was never treated seriously until the Trump people. It was used as a weapon against them. So, I mean, fairness would say if it's used against Trump people It ought to be used against Democrats, but, you know, there's not. No fairness or just treatment in the law.
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Yeah, it was written to actually go after Nazis in the 30s and 40s. And it's a very loosely written law, which, again, it goes back to this idea. The more laws, the less justice. They just kind of. They brushed off the criminal code. They said, what do we got to go after these guys? And that became kind of an attack vector. But fairness, I guess, is fairness. But I have no such confidence in the system as you know, my friend Mike Lindell, lots of energy, has a passion to help everyone get the best sleep of their life. He didn't stop by simply creating the best pillow. Mike created the Giza Dream bed sheets. They look and feel great. And I'm telling you, the slippers, killer slippers. The first night you sleep on the Giza sheets, you'll never want to sleep on anything else. Giza Dream sheets come in a variety of sizes and colors. Mike's latest incredible deal is the sale of the year. For a limited time, you'll receive 50% off the Giza Dream Sheets. You'll receive a set for as low as 49.99. Go to mypillow.com and click on the radio listener Share and use promo code Kirk. There you'll find not only this amazing offer, but also deep discounts on all MyPillow products, including the MyPillow mattress topper and so much more. Look, here's the thing. You guys might be doing massive orders right now on MyPillow.com every time you do MyPillow promo code Kirk, Mike Lindell. Lots of energy, lots of passion. Look, everyone has something in common. You all have to go to sleep. Now. Maybe you're an insomniac. And so I got a coffee to sell you, okay? And now that's a different read for a different time. But maybe you got to go to sleep, okay? MyPillow.com, go buy pillow. In fact, if you're an insomniac, I got magnesium to sell you. Different thing for a different time. But you gotta sleep, okay? MyPillow.com, go right now. Go buy a bunch of stuff. Go buy all your friends slippers. Go buy all your friends Giza Dream sheets. Go get pillow producer Connor. He walked in with his pillow once because he just needed it in between breaks. It was so beautiful. And in fact, I saw someone walking around with Giza Dream sheets, and I was like, why are you walking around Giza Dream sheets. And they said, look, don't judge me, but when I take my cat nap at lunch, I need my Giza dream sheets. It was kind of weird, but they did use promo code Kirk. So I gave him a fist bump. MyPillow.com promo code Kirk. Give high energy Mike Lindell, not low energy like Jeb, a boost. MyPillow.com get a bunch of slippers, dream sheets, pillows, and more. Promo code Kirk. I want to ask, I want to close with this, which is about Australia. Am I seeing reports correctly that Australia has basically become like a biomedical police state? I mean, is it as. Is as locked down as it seems from afar? Can you give us any insight into that?
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Look, I mean, it looks terrible. I have friends in New South Wales, which is the least police state of the lot, the freest of the lot, and, you know, they're locked down in a long. I mean, it's been, I think, two months, and they're looking at until the end of September.
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Wow.
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But I think most of the really ugly images that you're seeing come from Victoria, which, you know, we joke and call Victoria Stan, because it's. It's like, it's a Democrat state, effectively. It's a labor state. You know, it'd be like California or New York or, you know, Chicago. And the premier, like the governor we call Chairman Dan because he. And he. And Victoria is the only state that has signed on to a belt and road initiative deal with the Chinese. And so, you know, you see, the police, and the police there have been notoriously jackbooted thugs and notoriously, in the past have had serious corruption problems. I've been very down on the Victorian police for a long time, in part because they framed Cardinal George Pell. He went to jail, innocent man, great man, went to jail. He was number three at the Vatican and went to jail over child sex charges that were completely bogus, and that was overturned. And that was a case where the Victorian police had a per. The commissioner had a personal beef alleged against Cardinal Pell. So whether or not that played into it, who knows? But it certainly looked pretty bad. And so I've always had a negative view of the Victorian police, and they've just confirmed it with their, you know, firing rubber bullets into peaceful crowds who are trying to protest their ninth lockdown. And, you know, like, I think Australia, last time I looked was four deaths in one day. And these were people in their 80s. They still have this idea of zero Covid, which is ridiculous. I mean, especially with a very contagious Variant and there'll be more of them in Delta and, you know, a very slow vaccine uptake. That was their big problem. I think they were complacent because they closed the borders early. And thanks largely to Donald Trump closing off China flights on January 31st of last year, that was the only thing that actually spurred the Australian government and the New Zealand government into closing their borders a couple of days later. And I was very exercised about this because I have had a son there about to go back to Sydney University, which has a huge number of Chinese students that were just about to fly in after Chinese New Year, I think it was. And the government in Australia was just completely complacent and the universities were putting a lot of pressure on the government to let them in and would have been really catastrophic. But because Donald Trump made that unilateral decision, that was what forced the Australians hand. So I think it's never really said, but I think Australia really owes a debt of gratitude to Donald Trump now in New South Wales, at least they're ramping up the vaccinations, so maybe it'll come back. But I think it's really been an eye opener for the world and for Australians as well about the lack of freedoms there. It's a country that and never had a war of independence. The British gave Australia its independence. It doesn't have a bill of rights. But I will say, like England, appearances are worse than reality. Because while you have authorities out there, you know, behaving like authoritarian dictators and saying the most appalling things on the ground, the actual people are paying no attention. Maybe it's the function of having been a convict state and paying no attention to your overlords. But I think Australians generally are just getting on with life in a quiet fashion, much the same way that New Yorkers did throughout the pandemic. You know, the tail end of the pandemic. You know, your rulers may be overreacting and hyperactive and neurotic, but most Australians are pretty pragmatic.
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I was going to ask about Australian culture and you kind of answered that. So I just want to reiterate. Can people pre order your book that we talked about earlier? Laptop from Hell?
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Yes, yes, it's available for pre order now. Amazon or wherever you can get your pre orders.
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Yeah, go buy a bunch. And I can't wait to see it. I think it's going to really hopefully move the Overton window on this issue and reignite conversation and discussion. And it really is amazing, Miranda, and you deserve so much credit for this, because the Washington Post, New York Times, they exist for these kind of stories, allegedly. Right. They have staff and overhead beyond any comprehension. And they want nothing to do with it, if I'm not mistaken. Right. They don't want to touch it. For them, they are regime media. Why would we look through the President's son's laptop? Why would we do something like that? He's on our team. And what they did to try to get stories out of the Trump administration was just incredible. So I want to thank you for that, that.
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Thanks, Charlie. You're so right. It's incomprehensible to me. I mean, this is just on, just on a journalistic level, it is such a great story. It has everything in it. You know, every geopolitical energy, you know, flashpoint in the world. You know, Kazakhstan. I mean, if you made a movie, it would be incredible. He's meeting oligarchs at Lake Como and Monaco. You know, the scenery changes. It's just I was occasionally I would just reel away from my desk and be just gobsmacked.
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That's a good idea.
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Leaving what I was writing.
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We should try to get a film funded, just called Hunter, and that would be a very interesting film.
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Actually, friends of mine, Irish friends of mine who live in Los Angeles making a movie right now. I think I know my son Hunter.
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Yeah, that's good. Well, then they're good. I think I know who you're talking about. Well, God bless you so much and please come back again soon. Thank you, Miranda.
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Thanks, Charlie. Great to talk to you.
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Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us your thoughts, freedom. Charliekirk.com and if you want to support our program, you could do that@charliekirk.com support you want to get involved with TurningPoint USA, you could do that. TPUSA.com thanks so much for listening. Listening, everybody. God bless.
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