The Charlie Kirk Show
Episode: "India's Ivermectin Miracle"
Date: September 16, 2021
Host: Charlie Kirk

Episode Overview

In this episode, Charlie Kirk analyzes several pressing issues on the political and cultural frontlines, focusing on:

• The aftermath and implications of the California recall election
• The controversy around General Mark Milley and his reported secret calls to China
• India's use of Ivermectin in combating COVID-19 (the so-called "Ivermectin Miracle")
• The broader themes of bureaucratic power, immigration, and vaccine mandates

Kirk’s signature unapologetic, activist tone, and his focus on government overreach, health policy skepticism, and culture war rhetoric define the episode.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. California Recall Election Results and Lessons (00:55–15:30)

• Mail-in Ballots and the Democratic Advantage:
  Kirk highlights high mail-in ballot turnout favoring Gavin Newsom.

  “It's very clear that the Democrats were able to use the mail in voting system to their advantage.” (02:08)

• Premature Election Calls and System Skepticism:
  Criticizes major outlets for calling the race with less than 70% reporting, raises concerns over voting procedures and mail-in ballot security.

• Demographics & Long-Term Political Shifts:
  Connects election outcomes to demographic changes (immigration, language) and references Victor Davis Hanson’s perspective on shared American identity.

  “27% of the people in California are not born in America. Spanish is the number one language spoken in California, not English.” (05:20)

• Call for Conservative Activism:
  Urges listeners to stay engaged despite losses—praises Larry Elder as example for sustained commitment.

  “Regardless of whether or not you win or lose, you show up the next day. That's what the left has done to us for 60 years.” (13:20)

2. The Mark Milley, China, and the “Deep State” Controversy (15:35–44:00)

• Woodward Book Revelations:
  Dissects allegations from Bob Woodward’s book—General Mark Milley’s alleged assurance to a Chinese counterpart that he’d warn them of any US attack.

  “Mark Milley is privately and treasonously back channeling with the Chinese saying...I got your back.” (18:55)

• Bureaucratic Power & Accountability:
  Frames Milley and bureaucratic elites as the real rulers, unaccountable to voters, paralleling Milley with figures like Lois Lerner and Anthony Fauci.

  “He is loyal to the machine...Mark Milley is a permanent bureaucrat, never having won a war. Nothing but medallions on the left side of his jacket.” (28:30)

• Concerns About Constitutional Order:
  Repeatedly questions whether the US remains a constitutional republic, invoking “banana republic” imagery and domestic coups.

  “This is an oligarchy. This is not a republic. It's certainly not a representative democracy. This is without a doubt one of the scariest things that has happened in recent years.” (32:05)

• US-China Relations & Taiwan:
  Advocates arming Taiwan as a solution, decries alleged US weaknesses and “China trap”—dependency on China among US elites, businesses, and institutions.

  “China partnered with the WOKE industrial complex to diminish and to deplete our love of our nation.” (41:00)

• Notable Quote:

  “Mark Milley has never done anything remotely successful in his entire life except being able to knock out four extra large pizzas from Domino's. It's the only thing he's ever done that has really impressed me.” (36:40)

3. India’s Ivermectin Miracle – COVID Policy Debate (44:05–1:05:30)

• Uttar Pradesh Case Study:
  Cites Daniel Horowitz’s reporting, credits widespread Ivermectin distribution for low COVID numbers in India’s most populous state; contrasts India’s approach with Western pandemic strategy.

  “Uttar Pradesh...has only been averaging 24 cases of the virus and zero to two deaths per day in recent months...The answer, according to Daniel Horowitz, is in the 10 letter I word... Ivermectin.” (45:55)

• Vaccine Skepticism & Western Response:
  Notes low vaccination rates in India (4.5%) yet declining cases; criticizes US health authorities for not considering different international approaches.

  “They were able to do in a country that is a third world country...in India, they have 300 million people without toilets and they're able to do this with covid.” (48:30)

• Censorship and Pharmaceutical Motives:
  Implies suppression of Ivermectin evidence is profit-motivated; attacks FDA and NIH skepticism, promotes anecdotal stories of Ivermectin success.

  “Anything the FDA says needs to be taken with a grain of salt...they did a deal with the Sackler family to basically legalize Oxycontin...and the FDA was in on it.” (1:00:40)

• Listener Email:
  Shares a listener's difficulty in accessing Ivermectin due to pharmacy and FDA restrictions, notes shifting legal landscape making it “more heavily regulated than cocaine and heroin.” (1:02:30)

4. Vaccine Mandates, Monoclonal Antibodies & Natural Immunity (1:05:35–1:17:00)

• Global Mandates & Societal Divides:
  Criticizes Australia’s tight restrictions on unvaccinated citizens—frames debate over vaccine mandates as fight for individual rights.

  “If you're not vaccinated, you will not have the freedom or the freedoms that vaccinated people have.” (1:08:29) [Australian premier quote]

• Natural Immunity Argument:
  Advocates for recognition of natural COVID immunity and monoclonal antibodies, pushes back against “one-size-fits-all” vaccine policy.

  “You know what the best vaccine is? Natural immunity. Why are we not talking about natural immunity?” (1:10:35)

• Nicki Minaj Vaccine Controversy:
  References social media’s outrage at Minaj’s vaccine skepticism, highlighting inconsistency and politicization of public health messaging.

  “It’s the last part of Nicki Minaj's tweet that enrages them...make the decision yourself like a free human being, and ‘don’t be bullied.’” (1:12:50)

5. Immigration and "Invade the World, Invite the World" (1:17:05–end)

• Afghan Refugee Resettlement:
  Presents data on rising Afghan populations in the US and government welfare use, frames refugee policy as part of an intentional population shift.

  “California remains home to the largest Afghan populations in the United states...about 54,000 Afghans residing in the state, while about 24,000 live in Virginia and 10,000 live in Texas.” (1:18:17)

• Political and Demographic Consequences:
  Argues mass immigration changes America’s electorate, benefits Democratic party, and burdens social programs.

Memorable Moments & Notable Quotes

• “Regardless of whether or not you win or lose, you show up the next day. That's what the left has done to us for 60 years.” (13:20)
• “Mark Milley is a traitor to the United States. That's obvious. But he's amongst other traders as well.” (30:12)
• “This is an oligarchy. This is not a republic...This is without a doubt one of the scariest things that has happened in recent years.” (32:05)
• “The American ruling class...they're willing to have people die and not have the information just so they can make a buck.” (52:45 – on Ivermectin controversy)
• “If you're not vaccinated, you will not have the freedom or the freedoms that vaccinated people have.” (1:08:29 – quoting Australian premier)
• “You know what the best vaccine is? Natural immunity. Why are we not talking about natural immunity?” (1:10:35)
• “Afghan immigrant households use more than three times the food stamps as native born American households.” (1:18:45)

Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Start | End | |---------------------------------------------|-----------|-----------| | California Recall Election | 00:55 | 15:30 | | Mark Milley & Deep State/China Controversy | 15:35 | 44:00 | | India’s Ivermectin Miracle | 44:05 | 1:05:30 | | Vaccine Mandate & Natural Immunity | 1:05:35 | 1:17:00 | | Afghan Refugee Resettlement & Welfare Data | 1:17:05 | end |

Conclusion

Charlie Kirk delivers a packed episode, weaving key news items into his worldview of bureaucratic overreach, media malfeasance, policy double standards, and the erosion of traditional American values. The Uttar Pradesh Ivermectin story is presented as a symbolic challenge to prevailing pandemic orthodoxy, while the Milley controversy illustrates his deep distrust of entrenched elites. Throughout, Kirk advocates for conservative activism, skepticism of authority, and engagement with alternative narratives around health and immigration.

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