Is College Football Ruined Forever?

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Charlie Kirk Show – Episode: "Is College Football Ruined Forever?"

Host and Guest Introduction

In the episode released on December 10, 2024, Charlie Kirk, the founder of Turning Point USA and a prominent conservative activist, welcomes Jason Whitlock, host of Fearless with Jason Whitlock, to discuss a range of topics including men’s roles, college football, and cultural dynamics in America.

Discussion on NATO and Trump’s Policies (00:35 – 04:23)

Charlie Kirk initiates the conversation by highlighting former President Donald Trump's stance on NATO. He plays clips from a Trump interview where the president criticizes NATO for unfair trade practices and the financial burden it places on the United States. Trump states:

"NATO's taking advantage of us because we would go, look, two things. Number one, they take advantage of us on trade... And on top of that, we defend them. So it's a double whammy." (01:59)

Kirk elaborates on this by questioning the United States' role in NATO, emphasizing that the alliance heavily relies on the U.S. and Germany. He underscores the necessity of an "America First" approach to ensure that international alliances genuinely benefit American interests.

Is the 12-Team College Football Playoff Ruining College Football? (04:23 – 16:02)

The primary topic of the episode revolves around the evolution of the college football playoff system. Charlie Kirk poses a critical question:

"Is the 12 team playoff ruining college football or is it saving college football?" (04:23)

Jason Whitlock responds by expressing his long-standing opposition to playoff systems, arguing that the uniqueness of college football lies in its regular season's significance. He asserts:

"College football is not broken. It's a unique system that the regular season is the most meaningful and impactful in all of sports." (05:29)

The discussion delves into the recent playoff structure, highlighting the perceived unfairness in Oregon’s path to the championship. Kirk points out that Oregon faces a tougher bracket compared to teams they’ve defeated, questioning the validity of seeding:

"How did that happen? What does it even mean to be the number one seed anymore in the College Football Playoff?" (07:05)

Whitlock criticizes the NCAA’s decision-making, stating:

"They screwed this up. They'll correct it next year. I like the way Dan Lanning, the Oregon coach, handled it though. He said, hey, it's a great challenge. We're playing for a national championship and we're not going to duck any challenges." (07:58)

NIL Policies and Legislative Implications (07:58 – 10:26)

The conversation shifts to the Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) policies affecting college athletes. Kirk inquires about the impending legislative push to address NIL issues:

"There is going to be a very big push this spring... Does it need to be fixed, Jason?" (07:58)

Whitlock agrees on the necessity of reform, emphasizing the need for:

"Some sort of salary cap or some sort of fairness introduced rather than who is it?" (08:19)

He critiques the current system for its lack of sustainability and fairness, indicating that the evolving landscape of college sports demands updated solutions.

Jay Z Lawsuit and Cultural Decay (11:37 – 16:56)

Charlie Kirk brings up a controversial civil lawsuit involving Jay Z, where the rapper is accused of serious misconduct by lawyer Tony Busby. Jason Whitlock provides a vehement critique of Jay Z, linking him to broader issues of cultural decay and immorality in the entertainment industry:

"Jay Z has been linked to or in a lawsuit where he is accused of participating in the rape of a 13-year-old girl... His music is a part of a promotion of a nihilistic mindset that fuels child sacrifice, child abuse." (12:09)

Whitlock connects these accusations to a perceived moral decline in American culture, arguing that influential figures like Jay Z contribute to societal issues:

"This speaks to our overall cultural decay. It speaks to how do you get a country in the mindset where a political platform is based on the abortion of children?" (15:48)

Expressions of Faith in College Football (18:46 – 21:46)

The episode transitions to positive notes as Kirk shares clips of college football figures expressing their faith in Jesus. He highlights the growing openness among athletes to discuss their spirituality:

"Our players, they don't run from hard work. They just keep swinging. Keep swinging, keep swinging. That's uncommon. They deserve the credit. Jesus deserves the credit." (18:46)

Whitlock reflects on this trend, noting:

"People are doing this because it's forcing those of us that are believers to stand more boldly and to quit apologizing about our Christian faith." (19:17)

He praises the courage of individuals who openly declare their faith, linking it to a broader resistance against prevailing cultural norms that discourage such expressions.

Election Gains Among Men and Masculinity (30:56 – 35:54)

Kirk shifts the focus to recent election outcomes, particularly the significant gains made by the Republican Party among men across various races. He seeks Jason Whitlock’s insights on this phenomenon:

"This last election saw record gains for the Republican party with men, but not men necessarily of any specific race. All men moved in that direction. Why did this happen and do you see it continuing?" (30:56)

Whitlock attributes these gains to a resurgence of traditional masculinity and a backlash against perceived emasculation in society:

"Anytime you deny people masculinity, you make it scarce, you make it more valuable, you make it more attractive. Many men have come into the understanding that we're in a battle of dominion and leadership." (31:11)

He discusses the cultural shift towards valuing freedom and traditional male roles, emphasizing the importance of men standing firm in their identities and values:

"Donald Trump has so represented, like, true male masculinity... If you can't get behind that, as a man, I feel sorry for you." (35:54)

Corporate Retreat from DEI and Wokeism (23:48 – 26:06)

Kirk inquires about the retreat of corporations and institutions from diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives and "wokeism," questioning if this trend is connected to the broader cultural battles:

"We're seeing some corporations and institutions retreat from diversity, equity, inclusion and wokeism. Is that connected, Jason?" (23:48)

Whitlock affirms the connection, citing examples of individuals like Robbie Starbucks challenging corporations to abandon DEI practices. He credits Elon Musk’s acquisition of Twitter (now X) as a pivotal move in supporting free speech and countering elite control:

"Elon Musk purchasing Twitter... It's been wonderful to see again President Trump, yourself, Robbie Starbucks, Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy, all these people stand up." (26:06)

Whitlock concludes that these actions signify a significant pushback against established cultural norms, fostering an environment where conservative voices can thrive.

Conclusion

Charlie Kirk wraps up the episode by thanking Jason Whitlock for his insightful commentary and encouraging listeners to stay engaged with Turning Point USA initiatives. He reiterates the importance of standing firm in conservative values amidst ongoing cultural and political battles.

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Notable Quotes:

• Donald Trump on NATO:

  "NATO's taking advantage of us... that amounted to more than $600 billion." (01:59)

• Jason Whitlock on College Football Playoffs:

  "College football is not broken. It's a unique system that the regular season is the most meaningful and impactful in all of sports." (05:29)

• Whitlock on Jay Z Lawsuit:

  "Jay Z has been linked to or in a lawsuit where he is accused of participating in the rape of a 13-year-old girl... his music is a part of a promotion of a nihilistic mindset that fuels child sacrifice, child abuse." (12:09)

• Whitlock on Masculinity:

  "Anytime you deny people masculinity, you make it scarce, you make it more valuable, you make it more attractive." (31:11)

• Whitlock on Corporate Retreat from DEI:

  "Elon Musk purchasing Twitter... It's been wonderful to see... all these people stand up." (26:06)

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show provides a comprehensive exploration of contemporary issues in sports, culture, and politics from a conservative perspective, underscored by passionate discussions on masculinity, faith, and institutional integrity.

Transcript

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay, everybody, today the Charlie Kirk Show. Jason Whitlock joins us to talk about men, college football and more. Email us as always, freedomarliekirk.com and become a member today. Members.charliekirk.com members.charliekirk. com get involved with Turning Point USA at tpusa.com that is tpusa.com high school or college chapter today at tpusa.com also get involved with our C4 Turning Point action tpaction.com that is TPaction. As always, you can email us freedomarlykirk.com Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

[Jason Whitlock]

I want you to know we are.

[Charlie Kirk]

Lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

[Jason Whitlock]

Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

[Donald Trump]

I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy, his spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point usa.

[Charlie Kirk]

We will not embrace the ideas that.

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Have destroyed countries, destroyed lives.

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Charlie Kirk]

We are going to have Jason Whitlock on the program in just a second. Host of Fearless with Jason Whitlock. In the meantime, I want to play some pieces of tape here from President Trump's excellent sit down interview with Meet the Press and Kristen Welker. He had, he didn't have to do this. He sat down at length and went through a variety of different topics with her. Let's go to this first one here on whether or not the United States will stay in NATO play. Cut eight.

[Donald Trump]

NATO's taking advantage of us because we would go, look, two things. Number one, they take advantage of us on trade, meaning the European nations, okay, like terrible. They don't take our cars, they don't take our food product. They don't take anything. They think it's a disgrace. And on top of that, we defend them. So it's a double whammy. So let me just tell you, I was able to get hundreds of billions of dollars put into NATO just by a tough attitude. I said to the countries, I'm not going to Protect you unless you pay. And they started paying and that amounted to more than $600 billion. That's a big thing. Otherwise they wouldn't even be fighting. They wouldn't have any money to fight. If they're paying their bills and if I think they're doing a fair, they're treating us fairly, the answer is absolutely, I'd stay with Naito.

[Charlie Kirk]

You understand, even with those preconditions, many in D.C. are very upset with that answer. But why would we be part of a membership organization that does not benefit our own country? NATO is basically dependent on only two countries, the United States of America and Germany. Basically the entire project hinges on two countries. Now, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization has been around in a rules based international order post World War II. And the idea of NATO was always to be a check on the Soviet Union, okay? But now they're kind of reigniting their mission and their purpose as the Russian Ukrainian war is ongoing. On the NATO website they say NATO condemns Russia's war against Ukraine in the strongest terms. Our alliance remains steadfast. Now they want to include Ukraine in NATO. And remember, I believe it's Article 5, Article 4, Article 5, Article 5, which says an attack on one is an attack on all. Which means that an errant missile in a NATO country could involve American troops involved in a conflict all the way in Europe. President Trump continued on his America first focused answers talking about Mexico and Canada. Play cut 10.

[Donald Trump]

You're subsidizing Canada to the tune of over $100 billion a year. We're subsidizing Mexico for almost $300 billion. We shouldn't be subsidizing. Why are we subsidizing these countries if we're going to subsidize them, Let it become a state. We're subsidizing Mexico and we're subsidizing Canada and we're subsidizing many countries all over the world. And all I want to do is I want to have a level, fast.

[Charlie Kirk]

But fair playing field and understand when it comes to how we deal with Mexico and Canada, this is an idea that even Ross Perot ran on in the early 1990s. Now Donald Trump wants trade that has reciprocity. When you are not able to import certain products into other countries and they're able to dump their products specifically with China, less to an extent of Canada and Mexico, definitionally you are not able to then have American industry. Our country cannot only be real estate and hedge funds. You need to make stuff. You need to have a muscular class that is able to be productive. Joining us now on this topic and many others is a great man, Jason Whitlock, host of Fearless with Jason Whitlock. Jason, welcome to the program. Jason. I'm going to talk about a different topic, actually one that is far more important than Syria, far more important than Trade. It's the 12 team college football playoff. And so is the 12 team playoff ruining college football or is it saving college football?

[Jason Whitlock]

Well, you're talking to someone who's always been against the playoff system, always. So even when they was just four teams and two teams or whatever, I was always like, hey, college football is not broken. It's a unique system that the regular season is the most meaningful and impactful in all of sports. And so you're talking to someone that has a pretty clear cut position. I'm not a fan of the 12 team playoff. I did enjoy this past weekend, the conference championships, thought those games were amazing and, you know, so I somewhat enjoyed what transpired this weekend in terms of people's, in terms of teams getting into the playoffs or whatever. But when you're down to debate and who's number 12, it's really not much of a debate. I think Oregon is the best team and you know, I think maybe Georgia, maybe Tennessee, maybe Texas are on their level, but Oregon is clearly the best team in college football. And I don't need a playoff to confirm what my eyes have seen.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, you're going to find no disagreement here on this program as I'm a big Ducks fan. My dad, my uncle, my aunt all went to University of Oregon. I grew up a big Ducks fan, but I, but however, in this new 12 team configuration, it seems as if Oregon has the hardest path in this bracket than even the teams that they beat. Boise State, who they beat, and Penn State, who they beat, has an easier path. How did that happen? What does it even mean to be the number one seed anymore in the College Football Playoff?

[Jason Whitlock]

It means if there's a possibility of screwing something up, the NCAA college athletics will take advantage of that opportunity. They should have been able to see this coming, that there's no way Oregon should be facing a more difficult task than Penn State. It's, it's, Georgia is facing a more difficult path. It's, it's stupid. They screwed this up. They'll correct it next year. I like the way Dan Lanning, the Oregon coach, handled it though. He, instead of whining and complaining, he said, hey, it's a great challenge. We're playing for a national championship and we're not going to duck any challenges. So we're good to go. He's got the right mindset. I think they'll survive the struggle. But you know, it is just one of those oversights. They overlooked an opportunity to get this thing right. Coming out the gate.

[Charlie Kirk]

I do have one more question on the college football thing because it actually has a legislative and a policy angle. There is going to be a very big push this spring. Probably Nick Saban will end up being the kind of consensus figurehead to fix nil. Does it need to be fixed, Jason? If so, how can we even think about this or approach this?

[Jason Whitlock]

Yeah, it needs to be fixed. But the solutions that I used to talk about 25, 30 years ago no longer apply because I used to want to attach, hey, like there's a handful of athletes, you know, let's say 300 in major college football, 75 or so guys in major college basketball that need to be paid. And now we're paying everybody and it's just, you know, it's just, it's professional sports now and everybody's the wild, wild west. But my solutions used to be attached to making sure that these guys graduated and paying them at the end of their college careers upon graduation. Now in my mindset now, where I pretty much hate all these universities and colleges, I'm not sure if forcing these guys to be educated or indoctrinated at a college is actually the right incentive. But yeah, there has to be some sort of salary cap or some sort of, some sort of fairness introduced rather than who is it? Was it Larry Ellison and Dave Portnoy that just bought Michigan's next quarterback, Bryce Underwood? I'm just not sure if that's a sustainable structure.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, and I just again, there needs to be something still authentic and non commercialized. It is so clear what the committee did here. They knew what they were doing. They wanted a ratings Rose bowl of Ducks versus Bucks. That's what they wanted. They wanted an Oregon, Ohio State, Rose bowl because all these other matchups are a little goofy, like SMU and not exactly what will draw the eyeballs. So they wanted a beautiful rose bowl at 5pm Eastern on New Year's Day. I think it's all rigged. However, it's okay. That'll be the mini national championship. It's like a national championship playing for the right to play Arizona State or whomever. Are you ready to lose weight but.

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[Charlie Kirk]

All right, so there is this story that broke late last night of Jay Z, who is named in a civil lawsuit by Tony Busby, who's a serious lawyer who also defended Ken Paxton in his impeachment trial. And then Jay Z issued this crazy statement on X. Usually I don't cover any of the celebrity news, but Jason, look, I make a habit out of intentionally trying to know as little as possible about random celebrities. So tell me about this, Jason, and educate me alongside the audience.

[Jason Whitlock]

Look, Charlie, this issue is actually very important. What has gone on in the music industry and particularly in commercial hip hop. It's the partner of Epstein Island. It's the partner of sexually compromising certain influencers and celebrities and having dirt on them so that you can control them. There's no mystery why everybody in the music industry, everybody in Hollywood, all support the same political party and the same ideology. It's because they're controlled. They don't have their freedom. And so for Jay Z to be linked to the malfeasance, the criminality, the immorality of Sean Diddy Combs I think is very, very important. I've never liked Jay Z. I've never Liked his music or I've never supported his music in terms of there's all of this attachment to the occult laced within Jay Z's music. And so I'm thrilled to see Jay Z get exposed. I'm thrilled to see Diddy get exposed. They are, you know, Diddy had this whole vote or die and support of the Democrat Party. These guys need to be exposed. Their music is a part of a promotion of a nihilistic mindset that fuels child sacrifice, child abuse. This is what's going on and what's being exposed in the music industry and throughout Hollywood speaks to our overall cultural decay. It speaks to how do you get a country in the mindset where a political platform is based on the abortion of children? How do you get a country in a mindset where that's even a possibility that the number one focus of your political movement is hey, we gotta be able to kill babies whenever we want. You do it by bathing the culture in a nihilistic mindset. And this, the music that Jay Z and Diddy and hip hop produced, it all promotes, supports, puts people in a nihilistic mindset. And so I think this is vital. I think this is the kind of stuff that I hope Cash Patel and anybody else involved in law enforcement, the Department of Justice, we need to be looking into this. How did American culture get so rotten that one half of the country thinks killing babies is a constitutional right and the key to their freedom? This stuff is all connected. And so Jay Z has been linked to or in a lawsuit where he is accused of participating in the rape of a 13 year old girl. And Jay Z has put out a statement threatening the lawyer that's helping the young lady with this lawsuit or whatever. It does not surprise me that Jay Z would be linked to this. If you listen to his music, if you listen to the visual symbols that he associated with his music and his music videos, this is exactly the type of behavior that he would be involved in and it needs to be exposed.

[Charlie Kirk]

This is a serious lawyer by the name of Tony Busby who accuses, I mean, just this unspeakable crime in a civil lawsuit, mind you. Any other details about a minute, half a minute remaining here, Jason, that are important in this lawsuit?

[Jason Whitlock]

I believe Busby is the lawyer that represented Deshaun Watson. Deshaun WATSON Accusers the NFL quarterback that had 25, 30 massage therapists come after him. And so his reputation is pretty well established in the Houston area. He's pretty successful. He has not backed down. He put out Jay Z, put out a statement last night about how honorable he is and how, you know, he doesn't understand he's threatening Tony Busby. You don't understand where I come from. And it's all laughable to me. Jay Z has bragged for years about being a drug dealer, and now he wants to talk about how honorable he is and how there was a code where he grew up, where we protected kids. And I'm like, really? By poisoning their parents, by selling drugs throughout the community. That's how you protected kids?

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[Charlie Kirk]

So, Jason, moving on from the ugliness that you accurately described there I was watching football all weekend the best I could. I mean, we did have a big event, but even people around me, it was the joke. As soon as our big event ended at Mar a Lago, I had an iPad of the Big ten championship. You just. You can't get away with it, right? You're raised with it. It's very cathartic for me. It's kind of a way to kind of relax. And I was looking at these clips, too, of people sending me. There were a lot of vocal testimonies more so than I've seen in quite some time. Talking about their faith in Jesus. This one in particular of this awesome coach only lost to Oregon, mind you, of Boise State University. Keep your eyes on Boise State. Just amazing. Talking about how he baptized Ashton Jenty, who might. Who should win the Heisman, in my opinion. Just phenomenal. Let's play cut 17.

[Unknown Speaker]

Thank you, Jesus. And I mean, Jesus deserves all the glory. I mean, we serve a champion. He died on the cross, but he rose again three days later. That's the God I serve, man. Everything's possible. And our players, they don't run from hard work. They just keep swinging. Keep swinging, keep swinging. That's uncommon. They deserve the credit. Jesus deserves the credit.

[Charlie Kirk]

Jason. I don't know if we would have saw that five years ago on network tv.

[Jason Whitlock]

Yeah. What? We would have seen a. Hey, I just want to thank God and then keep it moving. But I think people now are being far more specific and far more bold in their proclamations. And it's a reflection of the time we're living in, Charlie. When you have this level of wickedness in the culture and people are seeing this and like, man, there's a lot of celebrities that seem to be endorsing this. There are people that are trying to make it clear, I'm not with that. And the best way to make it clear to say you're not with those people is to let everybody know who you are actually with. And it's Jesus Christ. And so that's why I'm thankful for the level of wickedness that's out in the open. And people are doing. Because it's forcing those of us that are believers to stand more boldly and to quit apologizing about our Christian faith. We've been. We've been closeted. And now to see so many people boldly coming out of the closet about their faith and serving Jesus Christ. I've got a good friend that's on the coaching staff at Boise State. He's one of their defensive coordinators. He's told me about the culture that they've established here at Boise State and just how much they lean into their faith. And it's why they've achieved so much. It's why Ashton Genty has achieved so much. It's. I think a lot of people in sports, from Harrison Butler to just. A lot of people are making it crystal clear. You're seeing more after game and pregame prayers on the field publicly. It's like, man, Tim Tebow was ahead of his time. If he was right here. If he was here now, he would be celebrated rather than vilified.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

And let's try to kind of connect the dots of what happened in the election and then what happened was happening here with just the more, let's just say, permission for people to say their private opinions and not be intimidated to do so. Was, was the election kind of a, a societal wide permission slip that it's okay maybe to hold opinions that otherwise people would find to be, let's just.

[Jason Whitlock]

Say, verboten the election process, I would say. And the assassination attempt on President Trump was the real permission slip in my mind. Because when you saw that, watched that man, that's a miracle. This man turned his head at the exact right time. Something is going on here. And to see President Trump start to mature in his faith walk, I think made people say, well, hold on a minute, this guy is willing to risk his life, you know, and I'm not willing to just publicly state who I stand with and what my faith is. You gotta be a pretty weak man to watch a 78 year old risk his life and then you're not willing to just say, hey, I'm with, I'm with Jesus Christ. And so I think that was the permission slip and just the energy, the fuel necessary to get men to ante up. You know, as I said last year, throughout all of last year, and I can remember I talked about it at marifast, it's like, hey, men, we have to quit apologizing for being men. We have to quit apologizing for our beliefs. We have to move past being afraid that we're going to be called an Uncle Tom or we're going to be called a racist or we're going to be called homophobic. We have to move past all that and stand on some values and some convictions and to speak them boldly and deal with the consequences. And like, holy cow, here we are a year later and everybody's doing this. It's kind of like the Trump dance. And so what a time to be alive. I didn't know that it would happen this quickly, but it has.

[Charlie Kirk]

On top of that, I have a question about. We're seeing some corporations and institutions retreat from diversity, equity, inclusion and wokeism. Is that connected, Jason?

[Jason Whitlock]

No question about it. We can have so much impact if we just stood our ground, this fight. These people are cowards. I mean, the opposition are actual cowards. And all we have to do is stand up and say, no, we're not doing that. And so right here in Tennessee, you know, our Guy, Robbie Starbuck, he's been a little one man army going after these corporations and companies. He's just a guy. And again, great guy. Robbie's had success in Hollywood, but he's just sitting here in Nashville, Tennessee, going after these corporations and they're folding instantly. And so it's like the wizard of Oz when you look behind the curtain and find out, well, man, that's, that's a little punk. That's what these guys are. And thank God for Elon Musk buying X or buying Twitter and turn it into X, where we have now and again. That's why I say this election process, because it ended up sweeping up Elon Musk and giving him more courage and giving him the energy or the resolve to make a $44 billion bet on free speech. Holy cow, that's God. And I'm not even calling Elon Musk a religious or spiritual figure. I don't know where he is with his faithful. But I know that God uses people to get things done that he wants done. And he's clearly being used no different than President Trump is being used to make sure that we have free speech so we can have freedom of religion. It's been wonderful to see again President Trump, yourself, Robbie Starbucks, Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy, all these people stand up. And now to see other people falling and to see these corporations falling like dominoes, because we have finally said enough is enough.

[Charlie Kirk]

You make a really important point there that I want to emphasize. I believe that when Elon Musk purchased Twitter, it was the most significant purchase since the Louisiana Purchase, and it was met with mockery and slander. However, if you really think about it, what purchase actually comes close to it? Jason, can you help build out that argument and strengthen it? If we could look at a place in time, the conservative movement was largely in the wilderness. We were really directionless and we were trying to figure out where we were going. President Trump, of course, was still the leader of the movement, was under siege and attack and was put in exile in the law fair. And then all of a sudden, things changed when Elon bought Twitter and changed it. Do you agree with that?

[Jason Whitlock]

There's no question about it. And listen, when Donald Trump started talking about fake news, fake news, fake news, fake news, I don't think Donald Trump fully understood what was the foundation of fake news. And it was Twitter. Twitter was where all the lies got confirmed. And so if you wanted to right in the Washington Post, go on CNN or MSNBC and say, oh boy, the police they're just out indiscriminately killing unarmed black men as they help old ladies across the street. You would then go to Twitter and see a bunch of tweets saying, yeah, you're right, the police are just. They're killing black men every single day that are helping old women cross the street. And then the newspapers would then quote, well, on Twitter, this lie was confirmed or this lie was said, and it must be the truth. And once Elon came in and said, no, I'm going to take over Twitter, I'm going to make these algorithms fair or eliminate these algorithms, you could no longer confirm lies on social media. And Twitter's not as popular as Facebook or Instagram or probably even TikTok. But I always recognize that it was the most powerful. It was because all the media's there, all the influencers are there, everybody that's on TV and involved in that system of control, they're all on Twitter. And so if you could get them all saying the same lie, it would be believed in, would be accepted as truth. And so, you know, you used to be able to go on Twitter and just say, well, that person over there with baton balls is a woman. And people on Twitter would confirm, yeah, you're right. A woman is just a feeling. It's not XX chromosomes. It's a feeling. And if a man with XY and baton ball says he's a woman, yes, we must all go along with his cosplay. We must all confirm his mental illness. And so there's been virtually nothing as transformative as Mr. Musk purchasing Twitter, turning it into X, making it more fair in a place where truth and a true public debate can be had. Yes, it's Elon Musk. And Donald Trump branded it as fake news. And Elon Musk getting swept up in Trump's story and purchasing Twitter, it's really. It's saved America. It's made it possible for guys like me and you to exist.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wonderfully said. And, yes, Twitter has always been the incubator of elite opinion. Hey, everybody.

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[Charlie Kirk]

Jason, this last election saw record gains for the Republican party with men, but not men necessarily of any specific race. All men moved in that direction. Black men, Hispanic men. Why did this happen and do you see it continuing?

[Jason Whitlock]

Well, it happened because anytime you deny people masculinity, you make it scarce, you make it more valuable, you make it more attractive. And so I think many men have come into the understanding that we're in a battle of dominion and leadership and like, who's going to actually lead? Are we going to give into the matriarchy or are we going to continue the patriarchy? And I think many men have come into the understanding that we have nothing to apologize for as men. The history makes sense. You know, the things that were established in the workforce were a product of necessity, not of, hey, we're going to be sexist. And so we're going to go out here and blow up mountains to pave a road through the west. Women weren't saying, hey, I should be doing that. You know, men were doing that. Men were climbing up on top of skyscrapers and building these buildings. They were roughnecks and many of them fell to their death or got injured. Women weren't saying, hey, I want to do that. Women weren't saying, you know what, I should, you know, you guys are fighting with the Indians. I should be doing that. Technology has fooled everybody into believing that women can do what men have done. And so now that we all have doordash and no one actually has to go out and hunt if they don't want to. We've convinced ourselves that, you know what, man, if things had been right, women would have invented air flight. They would have been, it would have been the right sisters, not the Wright brothers. And it's just not true. Men by nature, value freedom more than safety. Women, by nature, value safety more than freedom. We have a country that's built on freedom, and it's going to take men to protect that. And so I just think people have come into a full understanding of how we got here, that we keep softening things and leaning more into feelings. Well, if you feel like a woman, I'm going to have to ignore your bat and balls. That's something that only a feminized culture would buy into that, you know, feelings are control, everything at some point. Data, logic, truth, facts. And again, this isn't me taking a dump on women because, you know, love to death, can't live without them. They play a super, super valuable role in society, but they are a bit more controlled by their feelings than men, and that's harmful to a culture. And so when you sit there and say, if all these illegal immigrants want to come through the border, you know, I can. Well, as a man, I'm like, no, man, we. We got to draw a line in the sand. There has to be rules to this house. Not everybody can just walk up into this house and claim that they're part owners of it. There's just tough things that men are going to have to do, and hopefully we're in the process of doing them. And Donald Trump has so represented, like, true male masculinity. And yes, I wish that he spoke a little better sometimes, but not really. The man got shot in the face, stood up and said, fight, fight, fight. If you can't get behind that, as a man, I feel sorry for you. And so I just, I'll go back to the assassination attempt. It just kind of showed you who the real man was, and it exposed the Democrats and just how weak and emasculated and in my view, violent, irrationally violent that they are. And so I'm not surprised. And I do think the trend will continue as long as we don't get too intoxicated with our victory on November 5th and actually continue to do the work.

[Charlie Kirk]

Jason, thank you so much. Excellent commentary as always, host of Fearless. Thank you so much.

[Jason Whitlock]

Thank you, Charlie.

[Charlie Kirk]

Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us. As always, freedomarlykirk.com thanks so much for listening and God bless.

[Donald Trump]

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