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Charlie Kirk
Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here live from the Bitcoin.com studio. Dr. Marty Makary, Commissioner of the FDA joins the program and he makes some major news. We talk about should the COVID shot still be on the schedule for children, the child vaccination schedule. We talk about the food pyramid and are we gonna get rid of pharmaceutical advertisement on TV. Big news made here with Dr. Marty Makary. Then we also have my very good friend Colin Plume from noblegoldinvestments.com we talk about a lot, but also including why drinking is really bad for you, why maybe you should stop putting poison in your body. Really fun conversation. Noblegoldinvestments.com that is noblegoldinvestments.com email us. As always, freedomcharliekirk.com and get involved with TurningPoint USA@tpusa.com that is tpusa.com buckle up, everybody. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
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Dr. Marty Makary
Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
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Colin Plume
I want you to know we are.
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Dr. Marty Makary
Lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
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Colin Plume
Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
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Charlie Kirk
I want to thank Charlie.
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Colin Plume
He's an incredible guy, his spirit, his.
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Dr. Marty Makary
Love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever.
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Colin Plume
Created, Turning Point usa.
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Charlie Kirk
We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of the Charlie Kirk Show, a company that specializes in gold IRAs and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble gold investments@noblegoldinvestments.com that is noblegoldinvestments.com it's where I buy all of my gold. Go to noblegoldinvestments.com great honor to have with us the commissioner of the FDA and on this very exciting news day, Dr. Marty Makary. Doctor, great to see you. Congratulations. In your role, of course. Tell us the significance of President Trump's announcement and declaration today.
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Dr. Marty Makary
Well, thanks, Charlie. Great to see you and good to be with you. So politicians have been talking about this for a long time and this is one of those common sense things that nobody has been willing to actually do. And this is what I love about President Trump. Here you have Americans paying 10, 12 or 15 times more for the same medication that Germans or British folks or people in France are getting at the lower price. And nobody has said, stop, wait a minute, what's going on here? By the way sometimes these are American companies that are price gouging Americans as other wealthy nations get these sweetheart low prices. So the President has basically said no longer. And he's not saying it as a, you know, looking for small incremental changes. He wants dramatic changes to create a level playing field. He wants to make sure Americans can get the same most favored nation status price that these other countries are getting. And I think you're going to see a real change in the price of these medications when you pick them up at the pharmacy and in the medical bill. Meaningful changes that are going to be pretty massive.
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Charlie Kirk
So talk about what is most favored nation status. This sounds so rational, this sounds so common sense. Tell us what is favored nation status and then if you will, strongman the opposition argument as to what is some of the opposition we can expect now that this has been signed.
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Dr. Marty Makary
Yeah, good point. So most favored nation status is a declaration that Americans deserve, they deserve the best price of a medication that is sold to wealthy countries, what we call OECD countries. So we're not saying we need the price that Ethiopia has or other poor countries. We're saying we want the price that wealthy nations get. They negotiate prices, they have a free market. Why is the United States paying for all this R and D and upfront costs from basically price gouging Americans? Now some will say that it will mean lower profits for PhRMA. Well, pharma has to figure out why they are charging such a lower price in other countries. They need to reconcile this massive disparity. And some might say that there might be less money for R and D. Well, I don't think so. Pharma is pretty smart. They're going to create a level playing field because we are asking them to and we're doing it in a kind way. But we are also letting them know that we have the full regulatory authority of Medicare, of the Federal Trade Commission, of the Trade Representative, of the Department of Justice to ensure no monopoly pricing. And even at FDA we have good relationships with PhRMA and we also have some carrots and sticks. So you're seeing an incredible coordinated effort come around now to try to bring this, to bring it home and to actually make it happen. This is something politicians have talked about, but no one's made it happen. They've probably been worried about the pharma lobby, which is a massive lobby in Washington D.C. i actually think when we see lower prices for Americans, you're going to see more access for lower income and minority communities. They have had a tough time paying high Prices in the healthcare system across the board, hospital bills, doctors bills, drug prices. So we are actually going to see more access, not less. As some may argue when they say that, you know, R and D is going to take a hit from this, that's going to mean less drugs available. I think you're going to see more availability.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah. So that has been the response I've received just by text messages, friends, donors to Turning Point. Oh my goodness, this is going to bankrupt the pharmaceutical incentive model. But look, I think first of all, their profits are at all time highs. And again, it's amazing to me that Joe Biden didn't do this, Barack Obama didn't do this. Is this just a matter of the act of the will? It took enough courage to stand up to the pharmaceutical companies. Is it as simple as that?
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Dr. Marty Makary
Yes, it is. Because Barack Obama talked about doing this. Bernie Sanders has talked about this a fair bit. Bill Clinton talked about this, as a matter of fact, in his second term. He talked about it a lot. But all of them came short of actually doing it because it takes a bold move where you're willing to go up against massive special interests and lobbyists to get this done. But it's also something that sort of polls very low among the lobbyist community, but polls very high on Main street among everyday Americans. So I think you're going to see some really amazing activity on this and I'm excited to be a part of it.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah. And so let's go deeper into that. I mean, so many Americans have to go into medical debt and have to compromise their lifestyle for necessary drug medications. I'm sure that you have a lot of data to support that. There's a debate now of how much money people actually save. What estimates do you say that the average American can now save on their prescription drugs?
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Dr. Marty Makary
Well, we're going to say we're going to work hard at this. There's a lot of things we can do at fda. One of the main issues in drug pricing is monopoly pricing. So at the FDA we can do more to bring more generics to market. We can move drugs to over the counter where there's more price transparency. And we can also facilitate the generic version of these expensive drugs called biologics. They're the things that are running nonstop after I do a TV interview. They, you know, okay, thank you, Dr. Makary for coming on. And then non stop ads for these biologics. Why? Is it because there's an epidemic that's new around the conditions that they treat? No, it's because they're gouging Americans and the proxy payers for Americans, their employer groups and their insurance plans. And so those biologics have generic versions that are much less expensive. They're called biosimilars. And the FDA has been slow to get those biosimilars to market. There's a lot of reasons for it. We're going to streamline that and we're gonna encourage more biologics. And let's remember we got the Maha Commission report coming out next Thursday, May 22nd. The best way to lower drug prices in the United States are to stop taking drugs we don't need.
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Charlie Kirk
That's right. I'm so glad. Can you let this go? So this is a breakthrough to hear from the FDA commissioner. This is why I work so hard to get President Trump elected. Is it true, Mr. Director, that we don't need a pill for every ill?
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Dr. Marty Makary
We don't. And it's not helping. The more antidepressants we prescribe, the more depression there is. The more ADHD medications we prescribe, the more ADHD there is, the more opioids that were prescribed, the more opioid addiction there is. I mean, we are going backwards. We're not in a good place. We're watching our nation's kids sick, putting their hand on their belly because they don't feel well. That makes them depressed. It brings on so many problems. There's learning loss. There's all kinds of neurodegenerative disorders that are on the rise. I was told a lot of lies in medical school. One of them was that Alzheimer's was going up because we have an aging population that's expanding. Well, guess what? Early onset Alzheimer's has gone up threefold in recent decades. That's not explained by an expanding early population. Kids are not overweight and have diabetes and pre diabetes because of a willpower problem. This is something adults have done to children. And the F in FDA stands for food. Which is why we are looking not just to removing all petroleum based food dyes as we announced two weeks ago. We're looking at all chemical ingredients in the US Food supply that are banned in other countries that have concerning health issues. And that is our focus, it's on food, not just on drugs.
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Charlie Kirk
Are you challenging these pharmaceutical companies about the efficacy and the safety of some of these drugs? Sometimes these drugs have side effects that a lot of people are not always properly read into. About one minute remaining.
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Dr. Marty Makary
Absolutely. Look, we have to public, we have to safeguard public safety. That is the number one mission of the FDA that means no more pill popping, having no idea what you're taking. It means we take a look at ads on television to make sure you're getting accurate claims as to what the side effects are. So we are gonna use the full extent of all the regulatory authority we have to make sure people are properly informed and not just we are drugging our nation's kids at scale. And nobody has been talking about root causes. We need to look at everything.
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Charlie Kirk
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Dr. Marty Makary
Look, I'd love to see the evidence to show that giving young, healthy children another Covid shot, you know, a sixth Covid booster, would help them, but that evidence does not exist. And so we're not just gonna rubber stamp things at the fda. And I don't think you're going to see a push at the CDC to be pushing Covid shots in young, healthy, Children. That is something that's being discussed right now. I think you're going to see some announcement on that in the coming weeks. But I know they are trying to review all of the scientific data. And guess what? There's no data. There's no good randomized control data that the current version, the latest formulation of the COVID shot, is necessary for young, healthy children. Other countries have already recommended against it. Other leading countries in Europe have recommended against it for young, healthy children. So I think you're gonna see a look at this and you're gonna hear something forthcoming.
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Charlie Kirk
Well, I'm thrilled to hear that. And as you know, the significance also is once you are on the childhood vaccination schedule, with it becomes other immunity protections. So there's other kind of very sinister elements associated the liability protections. So, Mr. Commissioner, what I love about your approach is that the FDA sometimes only focuses on the D and not the F. It seems as if all the focus is on the drugs and not the food. One of the, let's just say, charter mission statements of my life and of this program is that the thing you do the most is the stuff you eat. So you should be eating good stuff, not bad stuff. Are you thinking of blowing up the food pyramid? This is like the third rail. I know that this might have a whole committee associated with it, but how we ever got to the place where we think that carbohydrates like gluten and wheat and rice are better for you than healthy fats and meat. The entire food pyramid, honestly, is, I think, largely propaganda by some of our food companies. I know that's another tough issue to tackle, but talk about the F in the fda, please.
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Dr. Marty Makary
Well, I think at minimum, it's propaganda. It's probably one of the greatest pieces of misinformation put out by the United States government on health is that food pyramid that was not about what's good for your health. It was about what companies wanted you to buy. And so that has done a tremendous amount of damage. In all seriousness, you have kids now that are growing up sick because of that food pyramid. You have companies that got rich because of that food pyramid. You have doctors and scientists who put their head in the sand because they were afraid to challenge that food pyramid. Well, we're not afraid to challenge it. The FDA is actively involved in revising our nutrition guidance. The secretary has asked us to make that front and center. You're going to see a new framework for health put out by the Maha Commission next week. You're seeing an enlightenment right now. Recognizing it's not. Calories in, calories out. That's the old misinformation dogma. It matters what those calories are.
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Charlie Kirk
Totally. Your macros. That's right, exactly.
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Dr. Marty Makary
Yeah, your macros. You can't just pump in ultra processed foods and think all sugar can be broken down into a calorie energy expenditure. It matters. People have gotta be eating whole foods, natural foods, things that appear in nature. And we have turned a blind eye to that as a government until now.
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Charlie Kirk
The final one, doctor, and you know, it's all. I know. This is another toughie. Just something to think about is one of the reasons why the pharmaceutical companies are able to basically put forward a pill for every ill is the fact that they're able to dominate our news networks. I know you talked about this during COVID And they're able to buy so much television advertising. Is it even legal to say that you're not allowed to advertise certain drugs on tv? Is it good for us? Has the amount of advertising that pharmaceutical companies do, has it improved the health of our Americans? And what are you guys thinking about here?
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Dr. Marty Makary
Well, we're looking at that, Charlie. The secretary and the president have asked us to look at that because people may not be getting a fair representation of what these drugs do and their side effects. You're not always dancing and singing every time you take one of these medications. I mean, sometimes you watch these commercials nonstop and you think, okay, I give up, I'll take it. I don't know what it's for, but I'll take it. And so we're looking at everything. As you may know, one of my first actions as FDA commissioner was to remove pharma and industry members from FDA advisory committees wherever statutorily possible. We want American pharma companies to thrive and businesses doing business in the United States to thrive. But we want a user friendly process for pharma. We want to partner with them. We want to facilitate innovation and discoveries and cures and. But the scientific review process of the integrity of the FDA must remain independent. And that is our commitment as a administration.
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Charlie Kirk
Could not agree more. If you ask my opinion, ban it all. There's no good use to be able to advertise I don't know this nonsense on TV of people dancing in the hills and the meadows. Ban it. We'd be a better country because of it. Thank you so much, Commissioner, Great to see you. Thank you.
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Dr. Marty Makary
Good to be with you, Charlie.
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Charlie Kirk
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Colin Plume
Yes, yes.
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Charlie Kirk
We should talk about that in a second. Yeah, please.
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Colin Plume
Yeah. So I saw your interview with Newsom and it was a great interview overall. But the thing that stuck with me is he asked you about why you quit drinking and you said, I want to be more successful or I want.
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Charlie Kirk
To be successful or I wanted to be more.
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Colin Plume
More successful. Yeah. And I quit drinking a year and a half ago and I'm actually writing a book about it that it will.
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Charlie Kirk
Come out about quitting drinking.
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Colin Plume
Yeah.
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Charlie Kirk
That's amazing.
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Colin Plume
And tell me about what it's done for my life. And. Well, I just, I think as a business owner and a father and I, you know, you, even if you didn't drink all week and then Friday night you had a few. I would wake up Saturday morning, just be tired and not engaged with my kids as much as I wanted to. And then, so that was one aspect. And then it was just the ups and downs of owning a business, you know, the stress, the anxiety. I mean, you know.
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Charlie Kirk
Oh, yeah.
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Colin Plume
And I wanted to just test it out. So I had a major surgery. I had my hip replaced. And I said, I'm just going to try it after the surgery. And I just felt better and better and I felt quicker.
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Charlie Kirk
Yes.
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Colin Plume
And I could. And I think the most important thing is that I was able to, like, when I had struggles, I was able to recover from them quicker. Right. I mean, I don't know what you've. How. How it's.
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Charlie Kirk
No, I mean, like, look, I mean, I haven't had a drink in what, four or five years? And I was never a serious drinker at all. But it was one of those conscious decisions that, you know, I wanted to be more successful.
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Colin Plume
Yes.
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Charlie Kirk
And I would go long, by the way. I would go like a year without a drinker. Nine months, right?
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Colin Plume
Yeah.
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Charlie Kirk
But it wasn't. I wasn't like, hard. Stop. And then I got married with my wife, Erica, and I was like, I want to go to the next level. I want to remember things with more clarity. I want to be sharper, I want to be more precise. I want to be able to study. And then I Also, to your point, the mornings are way better.
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Colin Plume
Way better. Absolutely.
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Charlie Kirk
And also, you do not sleep. I mean, literally, you do not sleep if you have too much alcohol in your system. Your body's not sleeping. You're just sedated. You don't get into actual deep realm. I'm sure you've done all the research.
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Colin Plume
Yes. Oh, yeah. And I have a good friend that I've been trying to convince him to take some time off. And. And the first month that he stopped, he's like, I'm not sleeping as well. And I'm like, actually, you're finally sleeping.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, you're actually finally sleeping.
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Colin Plume
He just didn't know what sleep was.
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Charlie Kirk
Correct. And by the way, that increases your inflammatory markers and all that, do you think it's helped your business 100%?
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Colin Plume
Yeah, absolutely. Just, you know, clarity. Conversations. Employees, like, interactions like, my. I'm not as. I'm never a pretty even keel person generally, but from time to time, I would, you know, get frustrated. That's. Most of that's gone. You know, frustration with your kids has gone. I mean, it's never gone away, but.
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Charlie Kirk
It'S gone more centered. You're more present, Right?
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Colin Plume
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. It's just been a really smooth. I'd say the hardest part was the reaction from other people. People are a little taken aback by it.
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Charlie Kirk
See, I don't. I don't mind as much of. I. I just.
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Colin Plume
You're used to that.
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Charlie Kirk
But. But that's a really. So honestly, when I break it down with people, they're like, honestly, I have to drink because it would look weird if business. I would. How do you overcome that?
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Colin Plume
I don't know. I just. I. I just go into all the social settings like everybody else, and then I just. I can hang out in any environment and I just talk.
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Charlie Kirk
It's amazing. You could still talk. I could still lubricate.
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Colin Plume
I could still do it. And. And I don't judge anybody. Like, I, you know, if they come to me, they want to Ask questions or whatever. But I have found a lot of people around me have slowed down just because they have seen what it's done for me and how they. And they, they're so. They have. And I haven't pushed it, but it's. I think it's becoming more of the.
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Charlie Kirk
Oh, it's becoming trendy, right?
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Colin Plume
Trendy.
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Dr. Marty Makary
Yeah.
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Charlie Kirk
And again, I'm not doing this to start a trend. It's just from Dennis Prager, who we should pray for. Amazing man.
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Colin Plume
Yes.
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Charlie Kirk
Tucker Carlson, President Trump. To Elon barely drinks. Like, I think he's not. Like, I don't drink. I think he might have a one to drink a year. The top performing people I've ever been around, it's. They are very against alcohol, against substances, and they'll tell you they perform better, they think clearer, they have better memory, better recall, more energy, more pace. And I also find that some of the people that drink the most, they're hiding something. They're mastering something.
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Colin Plume
Sure.
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Charlie Kirk
So it's just so amazing.
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Colin Plume
Yeah, it has been, it's been extraordinary. And, and just like to be able to gather more information. I feel like I can just take in a lot and like if you and I have a conversation, like, I'm more. I remember, I want to remember more.
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Charlie Kirk
Well, and people say, you know, Charlie, how do you remember all this stuff? Like, first of all, I have a good memory. I work hard at it. I eat very clean, you know, but also I don't drink. I'm not poisoning my body. And again, I don't mean to attack people that drink. Plenty of good people do. But it is poison. I mean, there is no. It is actual poison. Your body metabolizes it as if it is an arsenic.
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Colin Plume
Yeah. 100%. Yeah. I mean, Andrew Huberman has lots of videos and I've watched it.
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Charlie Kirk
Bad for your skin, it's bad for your sleep, it's bad for all those.
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Colin Plume
Every. Everything. Yeah. So it's been good. And yeah, it's definitely helped. And we've been so busy, you know.
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Charlie Kirk
Well, yeah, let's talk about that. So, I mean, it's a great connection. So now you're like superpower Colin. Yeah. Right. Superhuman.
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Colin Plume
Thank you.
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Charlie Kirk
And what a time because. So just for everyone, background. I didn't even do a good job. Introducing Colin plume here from noblegoldinvestments.com they are our partner for gold, silver, all that good stuff. Yeah. Precious metals is the right way to say it. Noblegoldinvestments.com we have you on frequently. We love talking about Economic news, but you've had a surprisingly good year. It's a good time not to be drinking.
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Colin Plume
Yes.
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Charlie Kirk
What's going on with gold and silver?
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Colin Plume
Yeah, well, I think that when President Trump got elected, people didn't know what was happening in the markets. I think everyone just paused, you know, for a few months. And then once he moved forward with his agenda, which, you know, the big agenda would be the tariff conversation, I think a lot of the money was, didn't know it was going to happen. And so we just had this real flight to safety coupled with the fact that the last quarter, if you remember, but when we were talking about gold last year, which was already running totally, the retail, US Retail market was late to the game. So the European market was buying, Central banks had been buying, they bought a thousand tons of gold for four years in a row. But our US Market was late. So the last quarter of last year, they started to dive into gold. You started to hear about it. Hedge funds are buying gold. Big, big groups, Apollo Group, all these started buying gold.
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Charlie Kirk
By Mark Rowan.
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Colin Plume
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And, and then this year it just, you know, people still, they didn't know where to go. They know what's going to happen. There's this. Is inflation going to be around? How's that going to affect things? So gold started to go up. So since President Trump's been in office, gold is up 34%.
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Charlie Kirk
And so here's what's amazing about that, is that. Well, there's a lot and I'm actually going to just fact check myself here. So. Yeah. So while, while gold was going up, bitcoin was going down.
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Colin Plume
Yeah.
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Charlie Kirk
And with that actually was a really interesting test of what do you trust more? Again, I'm very pro crypto.
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Colin Plume
Sure.
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Charlie Kirk
But when the cards were down, the actual flight for safety was not cryptography. Cryptography, it was gold.
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Colin Plume
Yeah.
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Charlie Kirk
Was it? That must have been very educational.
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Colin Plume
Yeah. And I think it's, we've been seeing this for a long time. And also it. Gold hadn't moved up as much as some of the other things that had gone up with inflation. I mean, we all saw all the inflationary numbers over the last two years of electricity costs and everything that had gone up pretty substantially, but gold hadn't moved. But yeah, I think it was a testament to gold that investors that were typically gun shy were diving into, into gold and, and the US Sentiment right now, they just came out of the report, 25% of Americans feel more confident about gold than they feel about the dollar and they feel even about Equities. But less than 10% of Americans actually own physical gold. So they don't all own it, but they feel pretty good about it. So that consumer sentiment I think is really telling. When I started the business 16 years ago, I think it was less than 3 or 4% that just interested in gold.
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Charlie Kirk
So if again, we don't do investment advice here, we legally cannot. We just present the options. You do whatever you want. Noblegold investments.com. i can however, vouch for Collins integrity and his character and how the company up that I, I will endorse the company. You guys make your own decisions, you have your own agency. But let's talk about facts. If somebody would have listened to one of our, our partnership, you know, conversations and they would have been drawn to buy gold a year ago.
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Colin Plume
Yeah.
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Charlie Kirk
How would they have done a year ago?
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Colin Plume
So since Trump got in office, it's up 34% a year ago. Today it's like 42%.
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Charlie Kirk
42% up?
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Colin Plume
Yeah.
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Charlie Kirk
That's unbelievable.
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Colin Plume
Yeah. So it's out, it's, it's outpaced.
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Charlie Kirk
What about like five years ago?
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Colin Plume
Five years ago. We're in 2020, so. 2020. Well, it depends because that was 20.
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Charlie Kirk
There was a spike.
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Colin Plume
That was it. Yes.
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Charlie Kirk
Let's just say a couple of years ago.
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Colin Plume
Yeah, a couple of years ago. You know, it was, the thing was, is that that $2,000 announced was a really telling number.
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Charlie Kirk
Yep.
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Colin Plume
That was like, is it going to break through?
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Charlie Kirk
Is it psychological barrier?
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Colin Plume
Correct. Like what's going to happen at 2000? I remember people having this conversation like, it's got too expensive. It broke 2000 and it kind of hovered around 2002, three years ago. And then it, it obviously broke through.
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Charlie Kirk
But now it's a 3200.
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Colin Plume
We're at 3200. Yeah. And today is actually a great day to buy because it's down today because of what happened with, with the China deal. So it pulled back today. So, you know, it's like a stair step, Right. You see these stair step kind of moves. But the tariff situation is, it's like a, it's like a high stakes game of musical chairs. And like what happened today, the way I think about it was like, what happened today is that like we put one more chair back.
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Charlie Kirk
Yes.
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Colin Plume
We've been pulling chairs away and we put a chair back. So it feels a little bit better. The stock market bounced. So gold's down today. Silver is very resilient today. So that's pretty interesting.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, silver's around $33 $32, $33 today.
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Dr. Marty Makary
Yeah.
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Colin Plume
So it hasn't had the. It's up 11% this year. It hasn't had the massive.
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Charlie Kirk
That's very good.
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Colin Plume
It's still very good. Yeah. Hasn't have the massive run of gold. But, you know, silver's different because it's not a monetary metal. It's. It's an industrial metal.
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Charlie Kirk
So it's a technical use.
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Colin Plume
It's a technical use metal. So I think, you know, in the grant, if you're looking at where things are right now and silver still hasn't made that big move and it has so many industrial uses, I really, you know, I think silver is going to be interesting.
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Charlie Kirk
So what talk about the incoming of phone calls you're receiving and then the trends that you are processing.
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Colin Plume
Yeah, well, I think it's. This year has been the most interesting year of phone calls because people have, you know, started, they start some paperwork, they get a little bit and then they're trying to figure out what's going to happen. They're looking at their stocks, you know, they're deciding what's. What am I going to do? So I think it's been a lot of start stop but for a lot of people. And this is what we've always said is like, this is just one piece of the pie is diversification. And people are really liking the idea of getting the actual physical as opposed to the stock form.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah. So are you doing a lot of home delivery?
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Colin Plume
Home delivery. And I think that was spurred a lot by what happened with the, the London Bullion Exchange.
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Charlie Kirk
What happened there?
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Colin Plume
Basically what happened was that people started calling their contracts right before the tariffs were kicking in. And basically the London Bullion Exchange didn't have enough gold. And so people were like, well, I have a contract. It's supposed to be there. And what was happening is that people were wanting to get their gold and shipped to the US and so the blended bullion exchange is like, sorry, we don't have it. And it's like, well, I own it. It's supposed to be there. And that caused more of a hysteria.
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Charlie Kirk
Create a run.
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Colin Plume
It created a run on gold. People wanted to get their gold, they wanted to get closer to home. So I think what' year which has been interesting is that people have been selling their gold stock and then just buying the real thing is.
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Charlie Kirk
So is, is there a fractional banking?
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Colin Plume
Well, that's what, that's what they're saying.
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Charlie Kirk
Are you, are you legally allowed to fractionally store gold?
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Colin Plume
I mean, you could if you if you told people that.
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Charlie Kirk
But they didn't. Of course. Right.
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Colin Plume
I mean, again, they didn't tell people that.
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Charlie Kirk
We all know we all exist in a fractional, fractional banking system. Your money's not actually there. Yeah, but if gold's. That, that's really bad.
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Colin Plume
That's not good. Yeah. And that, that did cause his. I mean, we're talking about big institutions at the exchange that wanted it and they were being told like, we'll have in four to six weeks. And it's like, well, you're supposed to have it there all the time. It's not, you're not supposed to have it there part time.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, it's, it's kind of like the, it's the Seinfeld episode where Jerry goes to get the rental car. It's like, I have a reservation. All right. Right. It'll be a couple of hours. No, no, but it's right here. The car, the reservation. Give me the keys to the car. It's like, I don't know. We'll get it later.
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Colin Plume
We don't have the.
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Charlie Kirk
We don't have it.
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Colin Plume
We don't have it.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, that's. That's scary. Noble Gold Investments dot com. Like 20 seconds. Just talk about the website, how people navigate.
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Colin Plume
Yeah. Noblegold investments.com been in business, will be 10 years next year. Obviously proud partner with, with Charlie. And yeah, I mean last week was really telling. We had a client, talked to another dealer, called us. We saved them over $22,000 purchase. We've saved people millions of dollars just because we focus on bullion coins and bars, as you know, you know, the real stuff. So that's what we do.
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Charlie Kirk
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Colin Plume
I always drink sparkling water. Water.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah. And I also, I'm of the opinion that it actually is a good conversation starter. We're like, oh, you don't drink? Like, yep, I don't drink. And I'm better for it. Like, you might actually prompt somebody to get out of, you know, alcoholism.
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Colin Plume
Yeah. And. And people need that sometimes. They need that prod. You know, they need to. Or they need to hear something.
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Charlie Kirk
And you shouldn't shame people. That's not, that's not what we're saying. No, right.
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Colin Plume
You should.
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Charlie Kirk
Everyone has their free will. They have agency. But yeah, also we need to be clear that it's pro. It's not good for you.
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Colin Plume
Yeah, yeah. And. And you were right. What you said was right. You're more successful. I mean, listen, let's. Let's not take away what you've done the last four or five years. I mean, that. Let's. It has a part.
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Charlie Kirk
Thank you. Without a doubt, I say this. I could not do what I do if I even had moderate consumption of alcohol. Impossible.
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Colin Plume
Yeah.
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Charlie Kirk
And so you have to choose. Do you want to be buzzed or do you want to be successful? So, yeah. This one says, Charlie, I drank heavily for 30 plus years. One day I decided I had enough and I never looked back. It's been five years since I had a drink and I don't want another. It has helped me be a better husband, father, employee, and friend.
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Colin Plume
Nice.
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Charlie Kirk
It's great stuff. Okay, let's. There's this funny kind of. This is why I was laughing. There's this ad in Thailand about stopping drinking. This will make you laugh. Play cut 226. We should run infomercials like that. We're low on time. Noblegoldinvestments.com Tell us about the silver gold ratio.
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Colin Plume
Yeah, so there's only been a few times, very short amount of times that it's broken this 100 to 1. So 100 ounces of silver to 1 ounce of gold. And typically when you see these kind of ratios, it doesn't stick for a long time. It got down even in 2011, it got down to 30 to 1.
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Charlie Kirk
Wow.
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Colin Plume
Which, by the way, if it went, you know, even 60 to 1 today you're talking about silver being, you know, well over $100 an ounce. So that, you know, there's a lot of. So there's a lot of these silver bugs that believe. Like, what's going on with silver? Where's that going to move? And so the thing that I like about silver is that there is a silver shortage. It's using, you know, everything. Solar panels, electric. I mean, you name it, it's. It's in there.
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Charlie Kirk
Drones and actually drones big time.
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Colin Plume
The government, you know, a lot of people don't know this. The government, last year, they buy gold and silver every year. Last year was the first year they bought over $400 million of silver and a little over $100 million in gold. Not for reserve. We wish they bought it for reserve, but they just bought it for industrial utilities.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah.
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Colin Plume
And mostly for defense. They use it a lot for drones, all that stuff. They need silver. So I like that usage. 18 to 30 grams goes into solar panels that, you know, that seems to be growing and growing. So I just like the continued usage. And if you're worried about where gold is and you're worried about the price, I think that there's a story to be told about silver. It hasn't made that big run yet.
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Charlie Kirk
You have a whole new book, Silver is the new oil. Correct. Right.
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Colin Plume
Yeah.
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Charlie Kirk
I don't know if we're plugging that today.
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Colin Plume
Yeah, we can play.
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Charlie Kirk
People can find it at noblegold Investments.
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Colin Plume
Noble Gold Investments. And it talks.
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Charlie Kirk
Great. Very compelling. Yeah.
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Colin Plume
Thank you. Yeah. I wanted to catch up to you and all your. Your books. Maybe one day I'll be there.
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Charlie Kirk
I have a new one coming out soon.
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Colin Plume
Oh, you do? Oh, okay.
- [36:03]
Charlie Kirk
All about the Sabbath. You'll love it.
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Colin Plume
Oh, really?
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah.
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Colin Plume
Oh, okay.
- [36:06]
Charlie Kirk
But why. Why taking a day off from work is.
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Colin Plume
Could change Because Prager, didn't he talk?
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Charlie Kirk
Yes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I incorporated in my life, and the book is called Stop in the name of God.
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Colin Plume
Oh, wow. Okay.
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Charlie Kirk
How honoring the Sabbath will transform your life.
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Colin Plume
Okay.
- [36:19]
Charlie Kirk
So I'm finally finishing it anyway.
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Colin Plume
That's a. I'm excited.
- [36:21]
Charlie Kirk
Yeah. Oh, you'll love it. No, it's. I say this. It's written to change your life.
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Colin Plume
Yeah.
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Charlie Kirk
Because you need that day and you need to work for six and have a whole day for family for God to disconnect. And I make an argument that you actually get More done in 6 days if you take one day of rest than if you were to work all seven. That's straight. Anyways. That's it so the talk about. So the goal of silver ratio.
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Colin Plume
Yeah.
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Charlie Kirk
You get calls. What is one thing that you wish that you could tell millions of people? Just kind of like man, I wish everyone knew this educational element about what you're doing.
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Colin Plume
Yeah. I would say the first thing is that you, you were buying, you're buying the real thing and you don't. We sell bullion coins and bars and when I say that means like we sell that because it's the highest purity and the lowest you get the most value. And I think what happens is you go to a lot of websites and you see they have so many different coins and bars and anytime you make a special coin or special bar, either the company is going to try to make a huge amount or it just costs more or whatever it's going to be. But at the end of the day all those modern day ones, they're not worth anything different. Listen, if you get an old shipwreck coin, I remember I brought a shipwreck coin.
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Charlie Kirk
I loved it, it was great.
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Colin Plume
And, and okay, that's from 1855. There's only a few of those. But any of this new stuff get focus on weight and purity. The other thing is, is like what kind of relationship are you going to have totally with the dealer because.
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Charlie Kirk
And that's where I can vouch and start interjecting. Yeah, there's a lot of shysters, a lot of bad people in the gold space. Collins, the real deal. Keep going.
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Colin Plume
Yeah. And so like you know people are like great, let's say you bought in gold a year or two ago and then you try to go back to that place and they don't want to buy it back or they're not, they won't give you a great price. It's got. You need a two way street. The beauty behind us because we only sell 10 to 12 different products. I'm happy to buy back because I'm going to sell it to somebody else. I'm not like a pawn shop. I don't have 4,000 different items. So I don't need to be concerned. I'm always going to. You sell me back a bar, I'm going to sell it to the next person. So I think it's important to think about not only how you get in but also your exit.
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Charlie Kirk
Totally.
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Colin Plume
And it's the same thing in business. Right. People always say that like if you're going to get into a business, think about who's going to buy you. It's the same thing when you're buying a physical item. You want to know how you're going to liquidate that later. So that's the thing that I think is most important, important and then the last thing is like the market's up or down. You want to have a relationship like we build relationships with people people can call. One of my top guys, Josh is actually here today and he, you know, came to meet you and, you know, be a part of this. But the ultimate experience is just having that relationship with someone.
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Charlie Kirk
Noblegoldinvestments.com I can vouch totally for Colin's integrity, his honesty, his transparency. So give him a look. Noblegoldinvestments.com promo code Charlie, Colin, thanks so much.
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Colin Plume
Thanks, Charlie.
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Charlie Kirk
See you guys tomorrow. Thanks so much for listening everybody. Email us as always, freedomarliekirk.com thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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Colin Plume
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