Israel v. Iran and America: The Best Outcomes...And the Worst

Summary

Summary of "Israel v. Iran and America: The Best Outcomes...And the Worst"

Podcast: The Charlie Kirk Show
Host: Charlie Kirk
Release Date: June 16, 2025
Guest: Rabbi Pesach Wielicki, Columnist from the Jerusalem Post and Host of the "Shoulder the Shoulder" Podcast

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1. Introduction to the Israel-Iran Conflict (00:00 - 07:25)

The episode begins with Charlie Kirk addressing the escalating tensions between Iran and Israel, emphasizing the potential implications for American involvement. Rabbi Pesach Wielicki joins the discussion live from Israel, providing firsthand insights into the situation on the ground.

Key Points:

• The ongoing war between Iran and Israel, with significant missile exchanges.
• Israel's initial strikes targeted Iranian nuclear facilities and military assets.
• Iran's response with ballistic missile volleys, depleting its missile stockpile of approximately 3,000 units, with around 700 already used.

Notable Quote:

"Israel has taken out the majority of Iran's air defenses, which were Russian-built, last October." (09:41)

2. Current Military Actions and Strategies (07:25 - 16:59)

Rabbi Wielicki provides a detailed account of Israel's military operations within Iran, highlighting the strategies employed and the effectiveness of these actions.

Key Points:

• Use of Drones and Mossad Operatives: Israel is utilizing drones assembled by Mossad operatives on the ground for initial strikes.
• Air Superiority: Achieving complete air dominance over Iran swiftly, surpassing initial expectations.
• Targeting Strategy: Focus extends beyond nuclear sites to include ballistic missile capabilities and broader military infrastructure.
• Public Sentiment in Israel: Despite casualties, there is unanimous support among Israeli citizens for the military operations.

Notable Quote:

"The Israeli people are wall to wall behind this operation. There is a national consensus unlike anything we've seen before." (07:25)

3. Potential U.S. Involvement and Military Aid (16:59 - 21:03)

Charlie Kirk raises concerns about growing calls for U.S. involvement in the conflict, specifically the provision of advanced weaponry such as bunker-buster bombs.

Key Points:

• Israeli Autonomy: The Israeli government asserts that it does not require U.S. military assistance to achieve its objectives.
• Current U.S. Military Aid: Discussion on the rationale behind U.S. military aid to Israel, its historical context, and its impact.
• Proposal to Cut Aid: Rabbi Wielicki expresses support for ending U.S. military and foreign aid to Israel, citing financial perspectives and strategic independence.
• Comparison with Ukraine: The financial commitment of the U.S. to Ukraine surpasses that of Israel since 1948, highlighting the imbalance in foreign aid distribution.

Notable Quote:

"The amount of money that the US has poured into Ukraine since the start of that war is greater than the total amount of money that Israel has received in aid from the United States since the state of Israel was born in 1948." (21:03)

4. Historical Context of U.S.-Iran Relations and Regime Change (21:03 - 27:59)

Charlie Kirk delves into the historical involvement of the United States in Iran, emphasizing the repercussions of past regime changes.

Key Points:

• 1950s Regime Change: The U.S. orchestrated the overthrow of Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh, reinstalling the Shah, which planted seeds of long-term animosity.
• 1979 Iranian Revolution: The Shah's unpopularity led to his overthrow and the establishment of a theocratic regime under Ayatollah Khomeini, fueled by anti-American sentiment.
• Consequences of Intervention: Subsequent U.S. interventions in countries like Libya and Iraq resulted in civil wars and destabilization, serving as cautionary tales.
• Opposition to Further Regime Change: Rabbi Wielicki warns against repeating these mistakes with Iran, highlighting the potential for even greater instability and refugee crises.

Notable Quote:

"This is why we should avoid reckless regime change wars when we can. Very often you get even worse than what you used to get." (24:45)

5. Defining Victory and Future Projections (27:59 - End)

In the concluding segment, Rabbi Wielicki outlines what constitutes a victory in the current conflict and the desired future state.

Key Points:

• Victory Criteria: Elimination of Iran's ballistic missile capabilities, dismantling of its nuclear program, and the removal of the immediate threat to Israel.
• Self-Determination: Emphasis on allowing the Iranian people to decide their own governmental structure without external imposition.
• Avoidance of Ground Troops: Israel does not intend to deploy American troops or impose regime change through military means.

Notable Quote:

"Victory looks like there is no longer a threat from Iran, no longer a threat of ballistic missiles, and no longer a nuclear program." (21:16)

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Conclusion

The episode provides a comprehensive analysis of the Israel-Iran conflict, exploring the military strategies employed, the current state on the ground, and the intricate dynamics of potential U.S. involvement. Rabbi Pesach Wielicki emphasizes the importance of cautious foreign policy, drawing lessons from historical U.S. interventions to advocate against further regime change efforts. The discussion underscores the necessity for Israel to achieve security autonomously while urging the U.S. to re-evaluate its military aid priorities in the broader geopolitical landscape.

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Transcript

[Charlie Kirk]

Hey, everybody. Charlie Kirk here live from the Bitcoin.com studio. The war between Iran and Israel continues. Should America get involved, we do a very sober take on regime change. And email as always, freedomarliekirk.com your thoughts. If America should get involved in this war offensively, we have a full conversation. Email us as always, freedomarliekirk.com and become a member today. Members.charliekirk.com that is members.charliekirk dot com and as always, you could subscribe to our podcast. That is the Charlie Kirk show podcast page. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

[Rabbi Pesach Wielicki]

Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are.

[Charlie Kirk]

Lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

[Rabbi Pesach Wielicki]

Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

[Unnamed Speaker]

I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point usa.

[Charlie Kirk]

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Israel, they were the first to strike and Israel went after nuclear facilities and went after military targets. They even impressively went after some of the generals and they took them out. Iran responded with a major ballistic missile volley. Now, Iran is going to run out of missiles at some point. Iran does not have unlimited ballistic missiles. They have about 3,000 of them. They've probably already used about 700 of them. And so they're going to continue to spend down their payload. And right now there's been another direct hit in Haifa that we're keeping our eyes on. Now, will Iran come to the table? We'll see. Now the best possible outcome for Israel would be that Israel gets to Hit all their targets. They get in, they get out, they get to declare victory, so on and so forth. So great, fine, terrific. No American involvement. The worst involvement for America is a little bit harder to define. At any point in time, American troops could get caught up in this. The longer that this goes on, the greater the increase for American troops to be caught up in this conflict. What happens if Iran hits one of our bases? What if Iran kills 50Americans? How then does the US respond? Are we duty bound to strike back? Probably. Are we duty bound to send American troops? Boy, I hope not. But then who is to blame if we get then hit, hit by Iran? Yes, of course, obviously it's Iran. But is Israel trying to drag America into this war? They're saying no, we are not publicly. Other reports internally say yes, they are. America is involved in some defensive capacity which is totally justifiable. There's probably over 700,000Americans in Israel right now and we've long done that alongside the Jordanians. So it's not America only that is doing that. Some people are pushing for regime change. I have a very important write up that I want to share with you about regime change. We do not have time for that right now in this segment. But the important takeaway is this. Be careful when you want to replace a dictator. Take out the mullah, take out the ayatollah, Be careful what comes next. It could be even worse for Israel, actually. I know that's hard to believe. It could be even worse for America. In fact, the only reason that the mullahs are in charge of Iran is because of America. We got involved and we got rid of Mosakday. And since we got rid of him, then we put the Shah back in who was deeply unpopular and then the Iranian revolution happened. Did regime change work with Gaddafi? Nope. Started a bloody Libyan civil war. Regime change in Syria. Time still to tell. John Bolton is chiming in. John Bolton, who's been wrong about every major foreign policy decision of the last 20 years. John Bolton has been wrong about everything. Iran's ayatollahs are weaker than ever. Maybe, maybe not. But when the chief neocon, John Bolton tells me that I'm going to be awfully suspicious. Is the goal of the Israeli government regime change? They say it's all about nuclear targets. But if it was only about nuclear targets, why are they hitting the media center in downtown Tehran? These are questions we're going to ask Pesak Wolicki as right now we should pray for all that are being impacted by these ballistic missiles. Charlie Kirk here. Crime is skyrocketing. You may already own a firearm, but before you face the financial and and emotional weight of pulling the trigger, consider Burna. Burna's less lethal launchers fire tear gas and kinetic rounds designed to incapacitate attackers for up to 40 minutes, giving you time to escape and call for help without deadly consequences. I use Burna. My family all has them. And now meet the new compact launcher. An amazing product. Sleek, slim and hits like a sledgehammer. But the size of a smartphone. It's perfect for concealed carry, comfortable, discreet and confidence building. 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[Rabbi Pesach Wielicki]

Well, the vibe is interesting. It's a bit unique in terms of what we dealt with for most of the war that we've undergone. All of the rocket fire and the ballistic missile fire at us has been, almost all of it has been shot down. But over these last few days, there have been a number of direct hits and there are casualties in Israel's population center. So that is casting a bit of a pall on things. However, and this has been in all different reports coming out of all different sectors, the Israeli people are wall to wall behind this operation. There is, I've never seen a national consensus quite like this. In fact, Yair Lapid, who is the uber left Bibi hating, he's kind of like our equivalent of Nancy Pelosi for you. He's kind of the head of the opposition and he is the wokest, most anti Bibi political figure, published an op ed in the Jerusalem Post today basically saying the entire Israeli people are united. And that was a Very powerful statement to make the point. Like here, here's the guy on the left end of the spectrum, the guy who leads the charge to try to take down Bibi, saying on this thing. And he's been calling for ending the war and that whole anti Bibi protest movement. But he published that op ed today to make the point and I hope your audience hears it loud and clear. The Israeli people are wall to wall behind this. The casualties in Tel Aviv, which that's our left wing woke pocket in Israel. There's been interviews all over the media of people whose houses have been destroyed saying this is worth it if it ends the Iranian threat once and for all.

[Charlie Kirk]

So, Rabbi, thank you for that. And we're praying for the peace of Jerusalem and so many friends throughout Israel that I have and that we have. So a couple just logistical questions and if you can't comment on it, it's fine, but. So what exactly is the military operation that Israel is undertaking in the interior of Iran right now? Where are the targets? How are they doing it? Are they using UAVs? Are they using drones? Have they been able to continue to take out the Iranian air defense system? Are they using traditional F15 or F35? I don't know if they have F35s technology. Please kind of give us some insight into the, the military strategy that Israel is embarking upon.

[Rabbi Pesach Wielicki]

Well, there are no F35s in the, in the fight. Just get that one out of the way. So the military strategy starting from the beginning of this was first of all, there was Mossad operatives on the ground who assembled drones on the ground that were used for a lot of the initial strikes. That those operations, as I understand it, are continuing. In fact, I understand that there was actually a Mossad headquarters in Tehran, if you could believe it. And so not all of the strikes on Iran are coming from Israel, geographically speaking, as in terms of airplanes flying over from Israel to do air sorties, they are doing that as well. I don't know all the details, but I know that as ballistic missiles are fired at Israel, each one of those ballistic missiles that's fired then reveals a location from which ballistic missiles are fired. So the, the bank of targets is growing as the operation continues, meaning there's an initial bank of targets that comes from the intelligence information that's been collected over the decades by Israel about all of the various military installations. And I should add, and this is important for your audience, there's a lot of kind of reductionist black and white thinking about this. This isn't only about taking out the nuclear sites. Israel has been terrorized and Israelis have been murdered by the Iranian regime for decades and decades. And this is about taking out Iran's ballistic missile capability, taking out their military capability, because this is a regime that is by its own daily statements in parliament and at the beginning of every school day in every classroom devoted to the genocide of the Jewish people and the destruction of Israel. So this is really about destroying Iran's capability to harm Israel. So I don't know all the details of all the, of all the different places that they're striking and it's. And the, what I do know is that from my sources in the Israeli government and the Israeli military, we are way ahead of schedule. Meaning the operation has moved along much more quickly with much greater success than was even anticipated. If someone had told you before this, and there was a lot of fear mongering going on before this, of all the terrible things that would happen, and of course it's not over yet, but if someone had told you before this started that within a day Israel would achieve complete air superiority and be able to essentially behave as it wishes in the skies above Iran and take care of business without any fear at all, you would have been told that you were crazy and that the Israelis don't have that capability. But it turns out we do. And there's a lot of other capabilities that Israel has that the naysayers are still saying that Israel does not have. So as far as I can tell, as far as I understand it, the operation is moving along more quickly than even expected. But there are still many more targets. I'm hearing that it's expected to be weeks long operation, but how long it's going to go is really gonna be determined. At what point is the threat neutralized? You know, if your kid is sick and you're by their bedside and someone says, how long are you gonna hang out by this bedside? You don't say, well, I have a timeline on. You say until, until they're better and our children are under attack every day, our families are under attack every day. We've been under attack for a long, long time. We haven't had the opportunity to do this because we had hundreds of thousands of Hezbollah rockets aimed at us. We had a Hamas army that was a significant army, and we had Iran basically controlling Syria. There were a lot of other threats that made it impossible to take down the primary threat which stands behind all of those other threats. But back in October, Israel took out the majority of Iran's air defenses. Which were Russian built air defenses that Israel took out. Iran recently started rebuilding them and that's what really led to the urgency. Again, another piece of misinformation is this whole debate about how close Iran was to the bomb. And that's, that's not the relevant point. The relevant point is how, you know, if someone is vowing to kill me and has announced over and over again that their singular goal is to kill me, but they haven't just announced it, they've also taken action throughout the years trying to kill me and hiring people to kill me and coming after me to kill me. My decision about when to take them out is not only based on how imminent is the danger, it's based on when do I have the opportunity to do it. And with Iran's air defenses degraded last October, Israel realized that the time is now to finally once and for all deal with this Iranian threat.

[Charlie Kirk]

So there's a big push. I got lots of text messages this weekend saying there's a big push for US involvement, specifically for bunker buster bombs. Do you think that's necessary or needed? We certainly here in America are very skeptical and cautious towards that.

[Rabbi Pesach Wielicki]

Yeah, there's a lot of. I see this talk a lot also, Charlie, on social media and elsewhere about Israel calling for US involvement. Israel wanting US involvement. All I can say is both from an interview given by Israel's foreign minister on CNN yesterday, but also from today, the National Security Council head Sahih Hanegbi who's really been. If you ever see a picture of the Security Council, the Security Cabinet in Israel meeting, he's always the guy sitting to the right of Prime Minister Netanyahu. He said today on mass media and it was quoted on X that the war was planned by Israel. We do not need the US for the goals that are defined by the war. We can handle it ourselves. Including Fordeau, the Israeli. As far as I can tell, and I'm very well sourced, Charlie, the Israeli establishment, the Israeli government, the Israeli leadership is not asking for US involvement. I know there's a lot of misinformation about this, but they are not asking for U.S. involvement.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Rabbi Pesach Wielicki]

Listen, the Israelis, I'm going to say it again. The Israelis have not asked the United States for their assistance publicly. Statements have been made by the by the top echelons of the Israeli government saying that they're not requesting US Assistance. They've informed the US of what they're doing. What the Americans decide to do, what they decide is in American interest, they will decide to do. Israel's not going to refuse an offer of assistance if it comes from the Americans. And then if American citizens are upset about that, that's between Americans and their government. Israel is not requesting this assistance. But the question you left us with before the break, if we could talk about that, can we go there, talk about the US Aid? Because you asked the question about cutting off aid to Israel. Look, I am one of a number of voices and I get flack from this here in Israel, from people who disagree, of course, but I'm with Prime Minister Netanyahu who said just about a month ago, somehow it didn't make it out into the English language media that he believes that it's time to end US Military aid and foreign aid to Israel. And I've been calling for that. There's a number of Knesset members who have started calling for that. And I'm in favor of ending the aid to Israel. And to me, the political cost of the aid is not worth it. But also it ties Israel's hands. And we are right now nearing the end of a 10 year memorandum of understanding that was signed at the tail end of the Obama administration in September 2016. A military aid package to Israel. And that package, when you say like ending the aid, that package included a requirement that Israel shut down certain critical parts of its own weapons industry so that they could not make them themselves and would only be able to acquire them by buying them from the United States. So Israel did that. So those who say just go ahead and shut down, just go ahead and end the aid. It's kind of not fair. It's almost like it's kind of a bait and switch. Wait a second. We have to shut down our military industry making certain weapons.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's a good point. You're just going to.

[Rabbi Pesach Wielicki]

So we can't cold turkey cut off the aid because Israel needs to have an opportunity to rebuild that part of its weapons industry that Obama, that the Obama deal forced Israel to shut down. So I am in favor of, of, of getting rid of the aid. Let me also add in Charlie, you know, we have to put the aid into proper perspective. And there's something that's really missing from the whole conversation. If you look at a map of where the United States has military bases around the world, and this is available online, you'll see that there are American military bases in numerous Middle Eastern countries around Israel. Jordan has American bases in it. Saudi Arabia has American bases. There's other countries in the area that have American bases in them. What does it cost to operate those bases? You know, where there's no, there's no U.S. base in Israel. And so the, the U.S. military aid. I'm not saying it, it's, that's what its purpose is, necessarily. But no one refers to the US bases in Jordan as US Aid to Jordan. They're just called defense spending. But America doesn't need to have bases in Israel because Israel is a reliable ally. So when we take a look at the expenditures abroad, the, the aid to Israel is not that significant. That said, I agree we should draw it back. At this point. It equals less than 1% of our GDP. It equals 10% of our military budget, which is a nice percentage, but it's not insurmountable. It's about 2% of our total budget. 90% of Israel's military is paid for by Israel. So the time has come. Israel is independent enough. Israel is strong enough. And Prime Minister Netanyahu has said this, that we need to move towards drawing down the aid completely. A final point I will make, Charlie, is that the amount of money that the United States has poured into Ukraine, and I'm opposed to all of that. I'm with you. But the amount of money that the US has poured into Ukraine since the start of that war is greater than the total amount of money that Israel has received in aid from the United States since the state of Israel was born in 1948.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's right. That is true. Rabbi, in closing here, just what would you say is a victory in the next couple of weeks? Like in your own words, define what victory would look like in this war?

[Rabbi Pesach Wielicki]

That's a great question. Look, let's first define the war. The war. This is not a new war. People talk about Israel starting a war against Iran. Hezbollah is Iran. The Houthis are a proxy of Iran. Hamas was funded by Iran. The only reason that Israel didn't do what it's doing now on October 8, when Hezbollah started firing ballistic missiles at our northern communities was because we had other enemies facing us that we had to deal with. So this is the same war that was started on October 7th. Let's make no mistake about it. This is just the head of the snake that Israel's dealing with. What victory looks like is that there is no longer a threat from Iran, that there is no longer a threat of ballistic missiles, there is no longer a nuclear program. And how the Iranian people, whether the existing government moderates, whether, whether there is a regime change from within, that is up to the Iranian people. The Israelis are not going to impose anything and we're not going to put troops on the ground there to do it.

[Charlie Kirk]

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But did you know that we only have a problem in Iran at the scale and the magnitude that we currently have because we involved ourselves in regime change. America has a long history of regime change with Iran. Historically, Iran was then called Persia. Way back in the 1930s, 40s and 50s, it was ruled by a shah, an absolute monarch. During World War II, the British and the Soviets invaded Iran because they were worried that it would ally with Hitler. They deposed the ruling shah, throwing the country into turmoil. The shah's son took power, but then he was overthrown too. Iran main came under the rule of a prime minister who had a lot of popular support. But to be honest, he was kind of a communist. He wanted to nationalize the oil. His name was Mosakdegh. He was not a great guy. He basically tried to make himself a dictator. He tilted towards the Soviet Union and he was hostile to American economic interests. So our leaders got in their heads that they should overthrow him. So they said, this guy is bad. How could anything get worse than Mosagdegh? But he was largely secular. He was not Islamic. So we in our American mind said, this guy is terrible. He's a communist. Take him out. What could be worse than Mosaddegh? So we did. And by the way, our government lied about it for years. The CIA and MI6 assisted the Iranian military in overthrowing Mosagdegh. They lied about it and finally declassified files showed that no we were involved. And we got rid of the democratically elected, somewhat communistic Mosaddegh interfering with the self determination of the Iranian people. Because we said, what could be worse than this guy? Well we reinstalled the Shah. And look, the Shah was an autocrat. He was also super sick and very weak. He was not able to really run the country. But hey, he was anti communist in pro America, but he was not popular in his country. And since he was America's guy, that made America much more unpopular in Iran. And then in the 1970s Iran had another revolution because of us. And this is when Islam surfaced. A group of radical Islamic students launched demonstrations against the regime and eventually they overthrew the Shah. They recalled an exiled Islamic cleric, the infamous Ayatollah Khomeini, back from exile and they made him the theocratic ruler. Because America had involved itself so aggressively in Iranian affairs before. These people really hated America. And so thanks to our intervention in that country in the 50s, we made them an enemy for decades to come. This radical regime took dozens of Americans as hostages in our embassy. They sponsored terrorism around the world and they called us the Great Satan. The moral here is that we should not invade Iran and we should not support regime change. Sometimes you get something way worse. Like Iraq, you get isis. Libya get civil war. This has unforeseen and often disastrous consequences. And that's why we should avoid reckless regime change wars when we can. Very often you get even worse than what you used to get. And right now, if you have regime change in Iran, what do you think you'll get next? You have a regime change in Iran, you'll get a civil war almost certainly. Oh, who cares if they have a civil war? Oh okay, where are all those people going to go to Europe, they're going to flee. You'll create a refugee crisis. If the Iranian people want to have self determination and they want to have a new form of government, so be it. We as the west should not be involved. We should not call shots. Because Iran is only a problem today because we got involved thinking we knew better. Thanks so much for listening everybody. Email us. As always, freedomarliekirk.com thanks so much for listening and God bless.

[Rabbi Pesach Wielicki]

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