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Charlie Kirk
My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Turning Point USA College chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA High School chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life. And I encourage you to do the same. Here I am, Lord.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
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Charlie Kirk
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
All right, welcome back, hour two of the Charlie Kirk Show. We are very honored to have a guest in studio. Now. He is going to be the next congressman from Arizona's 1st congressional district, and that is Jay Feely. Jay Feely, longtime NFL kicker, then NFL broadcaster, and you are now Trump endorsed Speaker Mike Johnson endorsed. Welcome to the show.
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Jay Feely
Thank you. It's awesome to be on here. Huge fan of Charlie. Just watching him, his heart for people he cared about, people regardless of their political persuasion. I just love the way he communicated, how effective he was and, you know, just honored to be on this show.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Well, it's great to have you here. And I was. We've been watching the developments of your race as they've come kind of come. And, you know, there's, there's been a few twists and turns, but now you're. Trump endorsed. Speaker Mike Johnson just endorsed you. We've got the, the graphics there. You are running for Arizona's 1st congressional district. So give, give the audience that's national. We have a national audience, but we also have a big Arizona audience. Give them kind of a feel of what your, what geographically, where your district is.
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Jay Feely
Well, it's Scottsdale. If you think of Scottsdale, it's Scottsdale, it's Fountain Hills, it's Paradise Valley, a little bit of Phoenix. It's that area of the kind of north Phoenix. It's a very affluent district that cares about the economy. You know, they. Over 50% of the people in that district have a college degree or more than a BA the vast majority are employed by private companies, and they care dramatically about the economy and where the economy's going. I think if you look at what President Trump is doing, just the numbers that have come out recently, they're going to love that. Over 4% GDP, almost 2, 2 and a half percent inflation, bringing down inflation, continuing to get jobs investment into our country. You know, you go back and you look in the, in the 80s, you know, we had positive net investment in other countries and that at minus 1 trillion. Warren Buffett said it was unsustainable. You know, in 2024, we had minus 26 trillion in investment into our country versus out of our country, and no one talked about it. And President Trump is doing the work to bring that investment, using tariffs as the threat to, to make countries invest back in our country, bringing trillions back into our country and continue to make an economy that's going to help everybody. And, you know, you listen to Lutnick the other day on the all in podcast, he was very positive. They think we could have over 5% GDP in the fourth quarter and going forward, maybe 6% throughout 2026. That would be enormous for not only the midterms and Republicans going into the midterms, but for the American people in general.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Yeah, the Atlanta Fed had it. I think it was 5.3 their estimate. They revised their estimate for Q4. So we're, we're waiting to see what that number ultimately is. But that's a huge number that we haven't even dreamed of in this country for a while. And then we've got. The Supreme Court is probably going to come down with a ruling on Wednesday, is what I'm hearing. As far as the tariff ruling, which we'll see. We'll see, we'll see there. Because I agree with you. I believe that President Trump, I believe economic warfare is. You may not like it, you may not like those words, but it is a reality. Right. We have to have Western hemispheric dominance. We are. You're seeing that in Venezuela. You're seeing it with the way that President Trump is using tariffs as a, not only a political or an economic tool, but as a foreign policy tool. Right. And these things ultimately are meant to enrich the homeland and enrich your residents in places like Scottsdale, Paradise Valley. It's a close district. Right. Schweikart holds it. So it's an R seat now. You know, tell us about some of that. It's a very, it's a, it's the margins.
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Jay Feely
I mean, it's like plus two plus one. That's what he's won by when he's held the seat, you know, and it's going to be one of the most important swing seats in the country. And it'll probably be the seat that the Democrats spend the most money in the country trying to go out and flip that. And it's why I decided to move. Ideally, you don't want to move districts. You know, I lived in Gilbert. That's where I originally was running. President asked me to move, then Republican leadership asked me to move. They didn't feel that we had anybody running for that seat that could hold a seat that could win it. So they all called me and said, hey, Jay, we need you to move into CD1 and run in that district. And I said yes, for the good of the party. The whole reason I decided to leave broadcasting, listen, I loved my job. I only had to work five months of the year. I got paid really well. I got to do football. You know, that's what I'd done the last 10 years after playing for 14 years. And it was a tremendous blessing. And I decided to leave broadcasting because, you know, because I felt like God was pressing me to do it, to do something with more meaning. I think back to something that Charlie always said that really resonated with me, which was, you know, I'm much more concerned about what God wants for me than I am with what I want from God. You know, and if I was selfish, I would have just said, I'm going to keep my broadcasting job. And it's fun and it's easy and I don't risk anything. But I've always been more concerned about trying to follow the path of where I think I can help people. When we were playing, my wife and I always wanted to use the platform that God gave us to have an impact on people, you know, and I view politics the same way, maybe somewhat idealistic, but your job is to create those equal opportunities, those pathways to success for everybody. You know, I think that's what President Trump is doing. You know, it was not the easy decision to try to go after and rebalance trade. You know, he could have just extended the tax cuts, tried to create energy dominance and more energy production, which is going to bring down inflation, bring down costs, and kind of coast it into the midterms. But they took the hard path, which was, no, we have to bring investment back into this country. We have to reset trade parameters. And we got to look at the long term perspective because we have 38 trillion in debt growing at a trillion every 100 days, and nobody talks about it. You know, those are the issues that I think, you know, that sit out there. And Congress doesn't do anything about either side. You, you know, this massive debt growing, the lack of investment into our country, and who pays the price. And Charlie always talked about it. It was the average, working, everyday man and woman. That's who pays the price, and that's who paid the price of the Biden policies, you know, with the 9% inflation and the printing of money. And they didn't care about the impact on America. They cared about the impact on their politics, despite the impact on Americans.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Well, and when you have that inflationary environment, to guess who gets hurt. It's the working men and women. It's a muscular class. The people that don't have investments, you know, stocks and equities, they're getting out. The value of those equities is outstripping their ability to earn and get into the financial ladder, get that first rung in the ladder. I want to just make sure our audience is aware of this. So, you know, I've been asking around about you, Jay. You know, knowing that we were going to have you on. And one of the things that came back again and again, and you alluded to this in kind of what you were talking about, why you're running is, is that you're just a strong Christian man and your kids are. You have four children, right?
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Jay Feely
We have four of our own. And then we have two that we kind of adopted from Haiti. We didn't legally adopt them, but I started going down and doing projects after the earthquake, rebuilding homes with a group called Mission of Hope down there. Awesome organization. And, you know, two guys that were our translators that we just kind of fell in love with. And, you know, I decided, my wife and I, that we could help them. And legally, they went through. They got an education visa. We did. And he came here, moved into our house. It was the hardest thing I ever did to me, honest with you, because as a dad of four young kids, you don't want to do anything that may put them at jeopardy and have a negative impact. But he moved into our house. We got him into Grand Canyon University.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Oh, good.
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Jay Feely
He got a degree, did awesome.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Well. And it's. I just, I wanted to highlight that because it's something that everybody, everybody said about you that I asked was that he's a really solid Christian guy, and we need more of that. We, I, you know, I believe, as Charlie believe that this nation will fail if we lose sight of Our Christian roots. Western civilization is Christendom, whether or not people follow it or not. I mean, that is our foundation. We need to keep our eyes centered and fixed on God. God has his providential hand on this nation. I believe it. And we need leaders that acknowledge that. So I just want to give you a shout out there. But also, when we were coordinating the memorial for Charlie, you had a hand in that and you helped us get in touch with the people, help us coordinate the stadium.
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Jay Feely
Well, we were heartbroken. My wife and I literally were walking out of the White House when we found out about Charlie. She burst into tears. I was just gutted. And we laid in bed that night and she said, you know, are you sure you want to do this? And I said, I have more resolve now. I know that God has put me in this place at this time for this reason. And I just reached out and said, hey, what can we do to help? You know, we wanted to donate to you, help defer some of the cost of the memorial. I wanted to bring people that may donate to your organization and just try to support him because I loved what he stood for. I loved that he was willing to have conversations with people that completely disagreed with him, that he mandated the people there give them the respect to be able to communicate. And then he communicated with a heart for people. It wasn't just, let me tell you why you're wrong and I'm so smart and I know all the things to be able to counter your argument. But he had a heart to try to help people change the their viewpoint. And really everything started with his faith and his trust in Jesus and trying to have an impact on people for Christ.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
And you helped us secure the venue or at least help connect some of the dots behind the scenes. So if you want to know how we were able to pull that off, look no further than Jay Feely and helping connect some of the dots there to get the State Farm Stadium and get access to that. If you're stressed about getting out of debt, it's good go time. Seriously, this is one of those moments where timing actually matters. Done with debt is one of the best I've seen at navigating debt relief. 2025 was a record year. They enrolled over $102 million in debt. For our listeners and others, here's why I'm telling you about this now, though. According to the Federal Reserve's latest survey, many banks have tightened their standards. Right now may be the best window to negotiate settlements before lenders tighten further. Done with debt tracks, credit Card and loan company behavior. This is what they know. They're experienced at knowing who is negotiating and when and what it takes to get you the biggest reduction possible. And Whether you're carrying 10,000 or $500,000 in debt, this is probably the best chance you'll get all year.
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Jay Feely
It was 61. It was long when I was playing, but now they're making, you know, all the way back. 70 yard field goal.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
61 is a really long ways to kick a field goal. And then you, so. And then you. You went into broadcasting.
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Jay Feely
I did.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
And you broadcasted four Super Bowls.
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Jay Feely
Four Super Bowls. Kind of crazy.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
You were doing sideline analysis at that point, right?
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Jay Feely
Sideline in the playoffs, like for the super bowl up in the booth. I was the second kicker ever in the booth after Pat Summerall. The legendary Pat Summerall. Susie Wiles's father. So the connection to the White House, which is great and just honored to be able to do that, like, it was a challenge. You know, people are like, what does a kicker know about football? You know, So I love that challenge aspect of it. To go in there and say, hey, I. I actually know the game, understand the game, I study the game and I can communicate it on air.
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Panelist/Commentator
And you also told us. I didn't know this. You lived with Tom Brady for a while, right?
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Jay Feely
Well, we did it like in the summers. Yeah. Michigan. We were at Michigan for four years ago. He was my holder for one year, which is great. I got him a picture of him holding the balls when I was kicking And Tom is a great guy and somebody that just shows real leadership. When you have a heart for service and you care about people and. And you put them above yourself. That's why the Patriots were so successful when he was there. You know, I hope to bring that into politics. You know, I care about people. I want to have an impact for people. I think we need people that have the ability to communicate. I think it's one of the things that translates directly into politics from broadcasting. I was on live on air for three hours, you know, every Sunday on national tv. When we lost Charlie, we lost one of the great, if not the great, communicator for conservative causes. No one can step up and fill the void that he's left, but we need people willing to step into that void and try to be able to communicate and do it effectively and do it with a heart for people.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
I really mean this, that Charlie was desperate for a Republican Party that was as conservative as its voters. And to hear you bring that up as an inspiration, and then just knowing your reaction to when Charlie was assassinated and the things you did to help behind the scenes, you know, there's all. It's funny, I was telling Tyler, there's all these conspiracy theories that we, like, planned the memorial six months out or something like that. No, the reason we were able to do it was because we had friends like you that had connections within with NFL ownership to help open up the stadium. It wasn't just you. There was other people helping. I don't want to overstate things, but, I mean, it was really amazing. And I keep hearing you say this note about how you were inspired by Charlie, and it really warms the heart, because what Charlie's enduring legacy is going to be a Republican Party that's remade and inspired by the things that he did, by the message that he presented.
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Jay Feely
My biggest disappointment has been the way the Republican Party has acted after his death, that we haven't coalesced together. When you look at the parties, they've never been further apart ideologically. We have so much to go after to show this distinct differences in beliefs and what our vision is for this country, because between the left and the right. And there's been so much infighting on the Republican Party to try to, I don't know, fill the void of Charlie and where he was and, you know, we need to come together and not. Not fight against each other, but fight against, you know, the people on the other side. When you listen to Jasmine Crockett and Congressman Omar Ilan and the things that they believe. And you look at Mamdani and why he was elected. You know, Charlie talked about affordability all the time and the fact that we need young people to have a vested interest in this country. They have to have ownership in this country. If they don't own a home and they don't have ownership, they're not invested in this country. That's why somebody like Mondame can get elected in New York. That's why, you know, so many young people are disillusioned with the political process because they throw their hands up. They're like, I got massive debt from college. I can't get a great job, and interest rates are crazy high. I can't buy a home. So I just want the government to do it for me.
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Panelist/Commentator
We've had a very interesting swerve from the president just these last couple weeks. He's on that, on homes. He says he doesn't want large institutional.
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Jay Feely
Love it to own it.
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Panelist/Commentator
And also he's calling for a 10% interest cap on credit cards as well.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Right. Which is potentially problematic. But he's signaling in the right direction that he's worried about affordability. He's worried about so much of our economic system benefits, economic incumbents. Right. And so we have. That was the message that Charlie had for Gen Z. It's like, listen, the American dream is alive and well. We have to focus on it. Because, yeah, we had major gains in 2024 with the next generation, but we got to stay on it. This is not, you know, the cement is not dry yet.
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Jay Feely
He brought hope to young people, and that's what our politicians need to do. That's what Republicans need to do. We needed to give them a vision of why they should believe in our policies and how they're going to give them opportunity. You can't dictate outcomes because you can't control individual behaviors. But you can give the right opportunities to people and say, if you work hard and you make the right decisions, here's your pathway to success. I think so many young people right now don't see that they don't have hope that if I do the right things, that I'm going to be successful. That's our job as a Republican Party, is to make that argument and make it understandable for young people and listen and for everybody. Most people are just trying to work their job, provide for their family. They want the government stay out of their business, you know, and they want the right economic environment to be able to be successful. That's what most people want. You Know, they don't want their government in their lives telling them what to do, how to live their lives, what decision to make. They just want you to do the right things. Unfortunately, we had four years of a Biden administration. They let 10 to 20 million illegals come in. That raised the price of rent. That raised the cost of affordability. You had prices go up because they got onto SNAP and they're using those. SNAP is raising grocery prices, you know, and then the interest rates go up because they're printing money, you know, which is going to drive up inflation, you know, and then you get 9% inflation. All of a sudden, the average person's going, what happened? Like, I can't afford even the things I used to be able to afford, and I don't have hope for a future.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Well, and I think ultimately you're talking about giving up on the system. Young people. You're seeing this in Minneapolis. I think a lot of people have given up on America. They've given up on the idea of America. They want to see it all burn. You know, these communist front groups are getting funded and the protesters are organizing and. And, you know, you got the Golden Globes wearing be good buttons when.
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Jay Feely
So hypocritical. I heard you guys talk about earlier. I loved what you said. Because when you look back at Obama and what he did with deportations, 80% of which were at due process. They talk about due process all the time. His deportations were not with due process. But nobody complained. The only person even said anything was aclu. They wrote like four articles about it. But nobody in the mainstream media had any issue because it was a Democrat president doing it.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Well, I want to reiterate a point you made. This is going to be one of the most expensive congressional races in the country. Arizona won. Your website is jfeely for congress.com j feely for congress.com please put that up on the lower, please. Everybody that can chip in. Jay's a good guy, Good Christian man. Very. I mean, we're going to keep this seat. We're going to keep this seat because a guy like you has. Has taken the hard route.
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Jay Feely
Thank you.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
And throwing your hat in the ring. And you're doing the hard thing for the sake of your country.
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Jay Feely
More importantly than keeping the seat. We're going to keep the house in 2026. I'm gon everything I can to make sure we do that.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Okay, Hardest question yet. Tony Romo or Tom Brady? Who's a better broadcaster?
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Jay Feely
Who's a better broadcaster?
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Yeah.
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Jay Feely
Romo. Who's a better quarterback.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Brady, I don't know.
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Panelist/Commentator
I really liked Brady over this weekend.
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Jay Feely
He was teach me how to throw a ball. Getting better, that's for sure.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Oh, man, these are controversial sets.
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Jay Feely
I'm making a text after that one.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Exactly. Jay Feely, thankful for you.
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Jay Feely
Awesome to be here. Thank you guys for what you do.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
God bless you.
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Jay Feely
Standing up for conservative causes.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
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Get their Free wealth protection guide now by texting Charlie to 50505. President Trump is fighting for America's future. Now it's your turn to help protect yours. We are turning our attention to Iran now that we we talked about this on Friday. And we're going to have Alika Laban, who is an Iranian in the United States. And she's been a strong activist advocate for a free Iran, free of the the mullahs and Khomeini. And so there's a lot going on. And it's very hard to understand exactly what's going on because there is an Internet blackout. We've got AI. We've got a almost complete media blackout from the West. There has been very little coverage, but there is a lot of, you know.
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Panelist/Commentator
Activists that are, we have reports of hundred. Some people are claiming thousands. I've seen reports in around 500, some supposed deaths from clashes between demonstrators and security forces. President Trump has been weighing in on this. He said about a week and a half ago he was saying if Iran strikes on protesters, we're ready to step in. And then he said this weekend, quote, iran is looking at freedom perhaps like never before. The USA stands ready to help. Three exclamation points. And so there is this sense that President Trump, I guess you might say, he might see this as an opportunity similar to Venezuela, where in a normal war you'd need a lot of force. But he may see this as an opportunity where a couple strikes and he can knock over the Iranian regime.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Well, can you imagine the psychological impact of the protesters? Now, I want to be very clear. I currently am against intervention, military intervention. I don't see it as America first at this point. But, you know, I am hearing reports that there could be carriers headed to the region, straight to Hormuz, that kind of thing. If we are doing economic warfare, I think you could topple the Iranian regime. Plus the protests with a barricade embargo, if you will, blockade of the oil coming out of Iran. That's usually headed straight to the ccp. So it's a good, it's good in two different, on two different fronts. Right. You're, you're going to choke off the oil flow to the ccp. You're also going to choke off revenues to the mullahs. Okay. So those, those two things I would be in support of. I do not want to see us militarily get involved. But it does seem like the lady GS and that sort of thing is, it's happening. They're pushing for a final blow against the Iranian mollahs right now. So that's, that's, we, we are monitoring that closely. Let's. Do you have a clip you want to play? Sorry, I want to play a clip here real quick. This is a, I think like a fairly dispassionate setting of the table before Elika joins us. 228.
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Jay Feely
Iranian supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei on Friday accused protesters of acting on behalf of US President Donald Trump. Khamenei said rioters were attacking public property and warned that Tehran would not tolerate people acting as mercenaries for foreigners. Videos uploaded to social media on Thursday showed hundreds of people marching in Tehran's streets at night as anti government protests continued, triggered by frustration with the country's economy and rampant inflation. Witnesses in the capital and major cities of Mashhad and Isfahan told Reuters that protesters gathered in the streets chanting slogans against the Islamic Republic's clerical rulers. Protesters tore an Iranian flag in half. Internet monitoring group NetBlocks said a nationwide Internet blackout was reported on Thursday.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
All right. And it looks like we have Elica Lebon, who is now ready. Elica, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
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Alika Laban
Thank you. Thanks for having me.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Absolutely. So One of the struggles with the Iranian story right now is it's hard to get accurate information. So you are connected with people inside Iran. You are Iranian. Tell us what the truth is. What's really going on, the extent of the protests, please.
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Alika Laban
Yeah, well, I mean, first of all, a lot of what the media says is that this is, you know, protests that are instigated because of economic conditions. But the reality is that what these people, what the people of Iran are protesting is the oppressive regime that has sort of had its boot on their necks for the past 47 years. It's true that sometimes things happen that instigate a new series of protests, which is exactly what's happened right now with the economic conditions since then. It's just impossible to count how many Iranians have taken to the streets. From what we're hearing, from what we're hearing from people inside Iran, essentially everybody and their neighbor and their parents and even their children have taken to the streets. And it is a total nationwide protest to try and oust the regime. At the same time, the regime's narrative, which we have to remember, the regime are in control of the entire propaganda operation. They're in charge of the media. There's no free speech. There's no free journalism. And their story that they're returning back to the world while the Internet has been shut down is that, you know, this is a Zionist operation, a Zionist psyop, a form of American imperialism. But what most people don't know is that that is the lie that drove the 1979 revolution. And it is the very lie that Iranian people have woken up from and are now protesting again against today.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
And how big are the protests and how widespread?
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Alika Laban
Monumental. I mean, every city, every. It's across the entire nation, obviously. You know, it's not like the regime is going to be tallying numbers and sending us back figures to let us know. It's not like Gaza Health Ministry, where they're going to send us, you know, accurate reporting, but essentially, from what we've heard from inside Iran, every single city in Iran is. Is basically, has detonated with these protests.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
So there is a gal online, I'm not sure if you're familiar with her. It's Tamina Debuzorgi. Apologies for butchering that, but she had this viral tweet that it looks at 5.3 million engagements right now. She says the Western liberal media is ignoring the Iranian uprising because explaining it would force an admission it is desperate to avoid. The Iranian people are rebelling against Islam itself. And the fact that shatters the moral framework through which these institutions understand the world. So she's basically saying this is different than what happened in Palestine or with Hamas. It doesn't fit the moral framework of Western media, therefore Western media is not going to cover it. Do you think that's what's happening? Is that what's causing this media blackout from the CNNs and the Ms. And nows of the world?
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Alika Laban
Yeah, I mean, I've posted a similar tweet and similar videos talking about the moral color code, which is essentially that in Western academia, especially leftist academia, and I say this as a former leftist myself, there's this sort of framework that has been taught to American youth about who the good people and who the bad people are, who the oppressed and who the oppressors are. And we've so many decades we've spent educating our youth that the good people in the world are the, you know, the global south or the people of color, and the evil people in the world are the white people. Right. And so their rebellion according to that moral color code is against all things white. And that is why you saw them coming out in droves to, you know, protest against Israel, which had been named a white nation of white Jews from Poland. Right. And that's. That was absolutely deliberate. But when you see these, when you see what's happening in Iran at the hands of an Islamist regime, well, let's not forget that violates the moral color code, because now you're talking about Islamists who are coded as brown, and they cannot defy the moral color code and go against the Islamists, because that undoes their entire story. It exposes the contradiction that what they've been protesting for or what they've been standing for this entire time has never been humanity. It has been abiding by orthodox, abiding by a moral color code which is built on a farce.
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Panelist/Commentator
Alika, I was wondering if you could. I've seen some discussion. What type of alternative government do you think the people on the ground want? There's been, obviously, the son of the former Shah has made himself a very prominent figure in all of this. Do people want the Shah back, or how do they feel on the ground there, do you believe?
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Alika Laban
Yeah. So when we're looking at these protests, these nationwide protests from city to city, the one thing that is unanimous is that they are calling back for the Shah. They're saying Javid Shah, which means long live the King, they're saying, which means this is the last battle and Pahlavi will return. There's a very specific reason for this. And the reason is that they ousted his father in 1979 based on what I call the great lie. And that great lie was the ideology by the Marxists and the leftists that convinced them that some utopia was going to come if they just ousted the, you know, Western imperialism. They called the Shah an American puppet, the American elite. And once we would be done with all of this and, you know, we could usher in some Marxist utopia of equality for all, Right? And so the Iranian people very soon discovered that there was no utopia. It was just hell. And because of that lie, there is a very specific return that they're calling for right now. It's essentially an apology. First, we made a mistake. We want the Shah's son back. We want the Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi back. He will act as a transitional leader. He's not coming as a dictator, an authoritarian. He's coming back as an interim leader to transition the country into democracy. At that point, a referendum will be opened up where the people will decide who it is that they want to lead the country, what type of system, whether it'll be a constitutional monarchy, a republic, a democratic republic. But I will say that the polls that have come out of Iran over the past couple of years have already revealed that their number one choice for a leader is the Crown Prince, Reza Pahlavi, because he is the only person that they trust against everything. All of the betrayals and all of the lies that they've experienced heretofore.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Wow. And you feel like that is widely shared on the ground in Iran?
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Alika Laban
I mean, just listen to their words. We don't have to guess. We just. We listen to their words.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
No, I. That was a question on that one.
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Panelist/Commentator
I don't.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
I don't know far. That was a. That was a big question we had. It was this. Was he representative. Yeah. Was he representative of a larger voice or was he trying to insinuate himself and to be opportunistic? It was an honest question. So that's actually good to know because.
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Alika Laban
You don't speak the language. I was like, why don't you hear them?
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Yeah, we don't speak it. So the next question here is about US involvement. Intervention. Play 226.
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Jay Feely
Yesterday, the leaders of Iran called. They want to negotiate. I think they're tired of being beat.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Up by the United States states.
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Jay Feely
Iran wants to negotiate.
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Charlie Kirk
Yes.
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Jay Feely
We may meet with them. I mean, a meeting is being set up, but we may have to act because of what's happening before the meeting.
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Panelist/Commentator
So I guess a general thing I'm.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Wondering is.
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Panelist/Commentator
How fragile does the regime seem to be? Trump is threatening to possibly get involved. We see the people on the streets, we see the regime shooting back. Is it the sort of thing that could be shoved over with not too much effort?
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Alika Laban
I think the fragility of the regime is directly proportional to how much it can withstand. And if there's intervention that's coming from the United States, that's coming from the outside, they're not going to be able to withstand the uprising within Iran and the intervention from outside. So that will absolutely be the thing that topples the regime over without intervention, no, the regime will not collapse because there's already been a massive shutdown and they're saying that the regime is starting to take control.
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Panelist/Commentator
To get a sense of how I did so we've heard about the Internet blackout, but to get a sense of how dire the situation is for the government. I'm being told they've also blacked out landline phones. They're blocking out online banking. They're blocking out basically anything requiring a GPS signal or like location at all. It's just getting shut down.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Jeez. Wow. Elica I want to show this image really quick. 234 this has become an iconic image of this young woman lighting fire to the supreme ruler and leader, whatever his name is, Khomeini, and using it to light her cigarette. And I mean, it's really like it's become this touch point of the youth led movement. Explain that. How are young people playing a central role in this Iranian protest movement?
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Alika Laban
Yeah, well, I mean, it's essentially entirely driven by the youth because we have to remember that, you know, our youth in Iran, they have access to the Internet, they're on Tick Tock, they're on Instagram, they're on social media. And what they're doing all day is essentially comparing their lives to lives, to the lives of people who are living with the rights and freedoms and privileges that we enjoy. And it makes no sense to them why they don't have those things. It makes no sense to them why they have to, you know, have hair coverings, why they're not allowed to sing or dance in public, why they're not allowed to essentially do anything. And they have to follow these laws of these clerics that are completely removed and completely out of touch for from the youth of that generation. And it's also important to remember that many people think that Iran is a Muslim country. And technically it is, but because of the regime. But the Iranian people are not religious. They've never been religious. Because Islam is not something that came to us. Our original, our indigenous religion, you can say, is a Rastrianism. And Islam came to us by conquest. And it's not something that the Iranian people ever fully adopted. And so there's an aspect of it that is still foreign to the Iranian people and most especially to the Iranian youth. So when they're seeing the way that the rest of the world is living on TikTok, they're making their dance videos too, but they're not allowed to make their dance videos. They're getting penalized for making dance videos and they're tired of living under these restrictions.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Yeah, it's very interesting what you're getting at. I don't think that that feels, I guess, logical to the average American. Right. We've been told our whole lives, you know, the Iranian Muslim is very repressive. This is what we've known. But there is this undercurrent within Persian culture. Right. The Persian people, I interacted with them when I was living in Los Angeles. I mean, amazingly industrious people. I think a lot of them are pretty devoutly Muslim, I would say. My experience, you would know better than I, of course. But my interaction this is my firsthand experience. They weren't devout Muslim, were they?
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Alika Laban
Irgc. I don't think I've ever met a Persian that was a devout Muslim unless they were irgc.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Well, and that. No, that's really interesting insight. Listen, you're the subject matter expert here. But what I will say is there does seem to be this. You see these videos from the 1970s of Iranian culture before, and it feels very Western, it feels very liberal. And I do think that is a promising side. If we're going to see Iran change and leadership change. Do you believe that the country would be well poised to sort of be reintegrated into the international community?
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Alika Laban
Yeah. And, you know, I tweeted something about this the other day, because people talk about this concept of Westernization, right. And they forget that we, the Iranian people, are the descendants of Cyrus the Great, who basically penned the Cyrus cylinder and that was the first declaration of human rights in history. And people forget that the Middle east was once considered the cradle of civilization. And so a lot of what we consider, you know, liberal right now, these concepts of human rights, they did originate with. With people like our ancestors, Cyrus the Great. And so Iran is sort of like a downstream effect of that type of culture and those types of norms. And that's why it's so important to understand that the way that Islamism has been sort of put on Iran, it contradicts our true underlying values. And our underlying values, it's not that we are Western, we are. We are Persian, but our Persian values mirror Western values very closely. And that's also why you've seen such a close alliance between the Iranian people and the United States and Israel and Western countries, because we share the same values. And pre 1979, that's exactly what you were seeing in Iran. The Shah, the last Shah of Iran, he actually instigated something called the White Revolution, which was a modernization project that gave women's women's rights, women's suffrage. It was about expansion of literacy, industrial growth, all of these things. And it was actually that exact modernization that caused Islamists and the Marxists inside Iran to ally to overthrow the Shah, because they called it Westernization. What it really was was Persianization. It was a return to our Persian values that are very, very closely mirrored with the West. The Judeo Christian values.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Yeah, I mean, it certainly seems that. And I think we. I mean, this is why these videos go viral online about the 1970s Iran. That. That is no more and hopefully will be again. But, yeah, go ahead, Blake. If you.
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Panelist/Commentator
It's just it's, it's a remarkable thing to watch. I think all of us would be very happy if, I mean Iran's been an enemy of the United States my entire life. If we were able to topple that without needing a giant regime change war without needing, you know, 200,000 U.S. troops I think that would be an amazing thing.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Yeah. And it, I mean floor is yours. Elika, what's your message to the American people about Iran?
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Alika Laban
My message to the American people is that it has never been more important to stand behind the people of Iran. A liberated Iran from the regime will free not just the regime. It will free Israel and Gaza from Hamas, Lebanon from Hezbollah. It will Yemen from the Houthis and the west from nuclear threat. It will be a massive cascading liberation for all.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Thank you Elica. Really well said.
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Alika Laban
Thank you.
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Charlie Kirk Show Host
Thank you.
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Jay Feely
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