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Judge Jeanine Pirro | The Biden Crime Syndicate, John Durham, and the Death of New York City?
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Thank you for listening to this Podcast 1 production now available on Apple Podcasts, Podcast 1, Spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. Hey everybody. Today on the Charlie Kirk show, my good friend and Fox News host and author of the new book Don't Lie to Me. Judge Jeanine Pirro is here. We talk about the Biden crime family, we talk about Durham. We talk about so much in the news. You guys are gonna love this conversation. Please consider supporting us@charliekirk.com if you guys want to help continue to support our program, please go to charliekirk.com support. It helps so much. Thank you guys so much. For those of you that are already supporting us as monthly supporters, it allows us to continue to do two podcasts a day, one on Saturday, one on Sunday. Email us your questions freedomarliekirk.com Type in Charlie Kirk show right now to your podcast provider. Take out that phone. Type in Charlie Kirk show. Your podcast provider hit subscribe, give us a five star review. And if you guys want to win a signed copy of the MAGA doctrine, do just that. Screenshot it and email it to us@freedomarlikerk.com Freedom CharlieKirk.com Judge Jeanine is here. Everybody buckle up. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
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Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
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Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point usa. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives. And we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Hey, everybody. Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show. I am thrilled to be joined by the amazing judge Jeanine Pirro. Judge, it is awesome to have you on the Charlie Kirk Show. It's fun for myself to be able to interview you because I go on your program every so often. Welcome to the program.
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Well, thank you. And thank you for the courtesy. Now think about this, Charlie. The truth is, when I interview you, it's about four or five minutes. You get to interview me for 30. If I had 30, I would interview you. So, I mean, you can come at me for 30 minutes. Love you.
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Anyway, well, thank you. And so you have an amazing new book. Let's just start with a call to action. Everyone go check out Judge Jeanine's new book. Don't lie to me and stop trying to steal our freedom. Judge, you said when you were as a judge, you used to say this all the time, don't lie to me. You said to people, say, just tell me the truth. Why did you write this book? And kind of, what experiences do you have that kind of correlate with the title that you chose?
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You know, the book Charlie's a third in the trilogy of books I've written since the president has gone into the White House. First, the liars, leakers and liberals, those people who defrauded the FISA court with a dossier that was paid for by Hillary Clinton, and that a FISA court judge was either too stupid, incompetent, or was part of a complicity, a conspiracy to spy on Donald Trump's campaign through an innocent American, Carter Page, who's still walking around, an innocent American. They used him as a vessel. And what's amazing, Charlie, is people would say to me, well, how do you know that? You can't prove that. Well, you know what? I knew it at the time because I was a prosecutor and a judge, and I worked with Jim Comey, I worked for the FBI. And then it came true. So then I wrote Radicals, Resistance and Revenge because the radicals were out of control, resisting everything this president did out of revenge for their not being able to draw that. Draw, drag that woman, Hillary Clinton, across the finish line. Now, they've been lying ever since. And I don't know, I was watching something and I said, stop lying to me. And, you know, I said, that's it. Here we go again. And the amazing thing is that in the Donald Trump world, news is there 24, seven, seven days a week so you can keep writing a book. As, you know, you wrote your book on the president and, you know, they had to pull it away from me because I kept writing because it was more news and more news. But this book pretty much takes over from the radicals and resistance, but it's a continuation of the lies of the left, where they want to lock you in your home, they want to open the borders, they want to defund the police, and then they want to take away your gun. It sounds like a perfect nirvana for a socialist, you know, and it infuriates me because as a judge, I used to look at defendants and, you know, you don't have to be a genius. Juries do this every day. They listen to evidence, they see what makes sense, does it sound true to them, is the person credible, apply the facts and the law, and they decide to Make a. They give us a verdict. And in this case, these guys in Washington on the left have been lying to us from day one. In fact, Charlie, there's more crime in Washington than there is going on in courtrooms across the country.
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Wow. Well, that's. That is a statement. So, Judge, I want to get into a part of your book here you have chapter three, Bunker Biden. But before I get into chapter three, Bunker Biden, can you just give your initial reaction to the recent revelations about Hunter Biden and his international crimes of mystery or alleged crimes? I should say, am I missing something here or is there just an incredible. Just, just pattern of almost a crime syndicate in the way that Hunter Biden paraded around the world? What am I missing here?
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You're not missing anything. In fact, I call them the Biden crime family, because what Hunter Biden did was he went around from China to Russia to Ukraine with a vacuum, and he just sucked up all the money. We're talking billions here. Billions. Here's a guy who's got a problem with drugs. He got kicked out of the military, and he knows nothing about energy, nothing about oil, nothing about gas, doesn't speak Ukrainian, and he's getting all this money. But, you know, this is why it's relevant. And I'm not even going to go into Don Jr. Having a conversation. And they want to indict him and break him in terms of monies for lawyers. And we know how that goes. But the truth is that Joe Biden has enabled this. He's enabled his brother, as Pam Bondi talked about at the rnc, to build homes in Saudi Arabia, government contracts. You kidding me? And he takes his son Hunter to China on Air Force Two. Now, you mean to tell me he didn't know anything? He didn't say to Hunter, gee, why are you going to China? Gee, who are you going to meet with and what are you going to do there? Do you think they were sitting there eating potato chips and watching movies? No. And the fact that Joe Biden has already lied about, oh, I never talked to my son about any of this. The fact that people kept going at Joe Biden and saying, you know, you got to consider the ethics of this tells me that they are a crime family, that what has gone on with the Bidens is an indication of what they'll do to America. And it's like the Clintons, the Clinton foundation, nothing more than an organized criminal enterprise under the guise of a 501C3. And they're not in this for us. They're in it for themselves. Donald Trump is in it for America. He's got nothing to gain and everything to lose.
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So when President Trump took office, the Trump kids, you and I both know them well, Eric and Don stopped all international business deals when Joe Biden took the vice presidency. They started their international business deals.
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Well said.
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They started to see more business opportunity than ever to sell out the middle class of our country. So, judge, tell us about this chapter, Bunker Biden. It's perplexing as we are having this conversation. I think Joe Biden has now had his ninth day of no campaigning at all in the month of September. He really believes that he can have a shelter in place, strategy to try to become President of the United States. Can you talk about this chapter in particular and how it relates to the broader theme of the book?
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Well, you know, I was just watching Fox a few minutes ago, and someone said, well, what's wrong with Joe Biden staying, you know, in his house to protect himself and his health? And I said to my, they said, then they said, because he's winning doing that. It's almost like people are, almost like people are saying, I don't care if he works for me, it just works for him. If this guy, once he comes out, has to stay in bed or at home for three or four days to get himself ready for the next exodus out of the house, how the heck is he gonna run the country? I mean, you know, president says, Xi Jinping, Kim Jong Un, Vladimir Putin, they're going to run circles around this idiot. Now, the other issue is this. There are times when Joe Biden is cognitive and he is very lucid. And when he debated Bernie Sanders, I remember saying, jeanine, don't underestimate this guy. And then two days later, if he came out two days later, next time he's like, you know, what is it in the pool with pop chart or popcorn and razors? And you know what, what was it in the pool?
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Oh, yeah, he likes kids coming up his lap and he got corn pop. And it's like, I always like corn pop. Geez.
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Like corn pop. But the. Yeah. And that's where he goes. And so you say to yourself, now think about this. I am not a medical doctor. How is it the one day you can be smack right on it, loosen, clear, and then you disappear for a few days? Is it, you know, what happens to your psyche, to your physique? And I'll leave it at that.
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So Judge Patriot too.
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Oh, he loves his country. Absolutely. So Judge, you have a chapter here in the book called Escaping New York. When I first started turning Point usa, I Used to love to go to New York City. It had an energy to it, it had a vibrancy. It felt like you could achieve anything in the world. Now I go to New York, it feels like a dystopian nightmare and it's depressing and I can't wait to get out. Judge, you're a lifelong New Yorker, if I'm not mistaken, and you built a career there. And what has happened in New York and are you leaving? Are you thinking about getting out of what's happened to this once great city?
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What happened to New York, Charlie, is what will happen to this country if Joe Biden gets elected. What we're seeing across this country is like a pre game, a petri dish of what's going to be happening if the left gets elected and not just. Well, not just president. Charlie, I think the people that are watching or listening to this need to understand it's your local da, you know, it's your local state senator, it's your governor and the president. Obviously the most important because their goal is, is basically to keep us down and afraid. And they don't care about the Constitution, they don't care about the law. Their goal is to create a socialist society where the government gives you pittance, like they did in the pandemic. To them, that was a godsend and people are afraid and we do whatever. Every day we watch the government tell us what we should and shouldn't do. And then they're like out there with the mask. You know, my favorite story about Joe Biden is, I think it was Memorial Day weekend, right? He's been in his house for months with his wife and he comes out to put a wreath on the tomb of the Unknown Soldier, I believe. And it's just he and his wife, there's no one in the vicinity and they're both in these huge black masks. And I said to myself, wait a minute, they're outdoors, there's no one near them. They've been living together. What's with the masks? You know, it's a signal. It's a virtue signal. I care about you. I'm going to protect you. And I was just in North Carolina last weekend for less than 24 hours, I might add. And you know, I got there and wore my mask. I mean, I'm from New York. And they were like, you know, they were like, what are you doing? And it is. It's almost like they've got us convinced of what we need to do. When you've got their various states where people are just Living free. Look, we're adults. We know what we need to do. We need to wash our hands. We need to stay clean. We need to make sure we don't breathe in or what, all that other stuff. If you're old, you need to isolate. But. But the thing about New York is it was a citadel on the hill. It was a city of financial, cultural citadels, just that simple. And you got energy from it, and it got energy from you. And I don't care if you were in fashion, if you were on Wall street, if you were in politics, if you were a ballet dancer, an opera singer, or if you were just a young kid saying, you know, this is my time. You can walk down the city in New York, down the street in New York at four in the morning and enjoy yourself. Now, I have a radio show on abc, WABC in New York. Sunday morning. I go in, Sunday morning. There's a guy drinking out of a paper bag. He's got a hoodie on. He's drinking. And I look down. He has no pants on. He has no pants on. And he's walking down the street. And I'm like. And, you know, I ran back in the building. I mean, actually, I was leaving. I was waiting for my car. I ran in the building. But the crime that is going on, the fact that the Mayor de Blasio and all of the Democrats don't believe in law and order. And I couldn't understand why they took umbrage. When the president talked about law and order four years ago, I said, I'm in law enforcement. It's in my board for 30 years. You know, why are they taking such umbrage at that? The reason is because they want to break it down. Because these protesters want to destroy our way of life. They want to destroy our ability to say what we're saying if we're not politically correct. You get fired because you trigger someone at work by your very presence, you know, and then they want to. We can't go to church. We can't go to synagogue, but we can go to a casino, we can go to the movies, or we can go protest with 10,000 people. Because according to the Democrats, the leftist, this is your time in history. No kidding. How about I take care of my family? You want to lock me up, Take away my license? This is crazy.
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Well, the system is falling apart. It's coming undone. And people like myself, I mean I was an elected DA for 12 years. I was an assistant DA for 15 years. I tried cases most of my career. Love the courtroom. Started the first domestic violence unit in the country, first Internet pedophile sting operation. I mean, I Hate crimes units, too. I was all about the victim. The victim. We never chose to be a of part of the criminal justice system. But what is happening now is the focus again is on the criminal and unfair justice. Social justice. I don't know what social justice is. I know what criminal justice is. I know what victim justice is. And what they're saying now is that, you know, we don't need to send people to jail. Let's elect these DAs with Democrat Socialists of America money. And they refuse to incarcerate. They only believe in in restorative justice, where the victim and the accused get together as if I'm a rape victim and I want to ever see that guy again, let alone talk to him in a room and, you know, kumbaya, Let it go. You cannot have an orderly society like that. And when I ran for DA One of the things that was. I ran as a Republican in a Democrat county, one as a county judge, one as a DA My message was very simple. Westchester is a very affluent community. It's one of the richest in the country. If you want to keep this place affluent, successful, and you want to move here, you want kids to go to school here, you want businesses to thrive here, you better make sure I'm the DA Because I'm going after crime with no holes barred. And you can check my plea bargain record, you can check my incarceration record, you can check whatever record you want to check. Check me out. But the bottom line is your kids are going to be safe, your business is going to be safe, and everything that you're doing in your life is going to be protected by me. I'm going after anyone who goes after any of you. That's gone now. They call it bail reform. That's a euphemism. It's nothing more than the elimination of bail. You walk in, they charge you, and when the police finish their paperwork, cop goes out to finish the beat, whatever it is, and the criminal goes out to commit another crime. And he comes back in, they let him out. If he's a protester, he gets money to fly to the next state and protest. And the Kyle Rittenhouse case is a perfect example of what they're trying to do. Everyone who went after that kid had a long criminal record. Sex offender, strangulation, gang member. They're looking to put us in a place where if we defend ourselves, they're either going to attack us or. Or they're going to arrest us like they did the McCloskeys.
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Well, and the Kyle Rittenhouse case. And again, I've said this, he was charged on multiple charges, probably shouldn't have been there walking the streets. I mean, he's 17 years old. He made a mistake, but he was hunted down in the streets and he defended himself. That's not first degree murder. It's hard to even comprehend how they come at that conclusion. And Judge, I'm really worried because now they're viewing the justice system through a very slanted lens where they think it should be tilted differently if you have a different skin color, a different income level. I was stunned to believe that Kim Fox in Chicago and I had to double check this with police officers I know on the ground she was allowing cash, she was allowing bail for first degree murderers. These people are getting out on bail for first degree murder and they say it's bail reform. Who a first degree murderer you're letting out with just back onto the streets. And judge, correct me if I'm wrong, but it also demoralizes police officers. They're less likely to go arrest and they're less likely to go into those tough neighborhoods. Like, why do I want to go get shot at or killed? And it breaks apart the entire civilization is really what it does. And so, judge, is there, are you seeing Democrats, and I hate to use it through political terms, are you seeing people that used to just be kind of on the left that are starting to recognize and realize in the New York greater area that this is something that is very dangerous, especially with the de Blasio kind of takeover?
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Yeah, you would think that with de Blasio and the takedown of New York City, that there would be Democrats who would say the tax base is leaving New York, stores are not being protected, police are being told to stand down. And worse than that, police are being targeted by the Democrats. District Attorney, I got a hold of an internal memo where he said to them, basically, you know, we want to let the protesters go with an acd and if they have any complaints against the cops, we're going to consider police brutality charges against the cops. City council, that was an internal memo that I got. The cops, on the other hand, are being told, you cannot touch the accused, the suspect perp and, you know, his diaphragm or here or there. And if they get into a tussle, they're going to touch that area. So they're kind of like, I'm going to call, you know, I'm going to call the sergeant and then the captain and then the lieutenant or I'm not going to go anywhere but to Add to it, they took out the street crime unit, what we used to call it the anti crime unit. And so the criminals are emboldened. Here's the bottom line. The bottom line is New York City is going back to the 80s.
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Yeah.
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It has lost the luster that you described. And, you know, people are buying guns. Women are buying guns. Women in the suburbs are buying guns. To answer your direct question about whether or not they're going to recognize Trump will protect them. Body armor purchases are up by 80% in New York City body armor. So we're at a very critical time. You know, I don't have to tell you, I think you do a fabulous job wherever you go. I mean, you just have, you have the facts, the statistics, you know what you're talking about. And I like that you stay calm. I mean, you really are calm. And when they come at you, I love watching you. I do.
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Thank you.
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You're great.
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Well, thank you.
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And everything you do is great.
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I. Yeah, and he's got another year and four months to do it before the next person comes in. And God forbid what that city's gonna look like in the next four years.
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And what, and what's really sad is that the rich and the elite in New York, they're gonna be okay. They'll go to the Hamptons, they'll hire private security. It is the working class of New York that are just gonna be suffering under this incredibly just. It's a sad and depressing pattern of events in New York. So Judge, I wanna shift gears a little bit. Cause you mentioned something early on in the episode that I've been thinking a lot about and I was actually just thinking about it last night and it's really been bothering me. You mentioned that the President was spied on illegally with the FISA court. We are now in late September. Where are Durham's indictments? Is there something that we can be expecting? I told people to keep their expectations low. But are we gonna get anything before the election?
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You know, I don't have any idea, Charlie. And you know, I ran into Bill Barr in Washington yesterday and I said to him so when he said, you'll know, you know, look, I respect Bill Barr. I think he's a smart guy. You know, Durham is supposed to be a pit bull and all that. You know, if I give up on the system, Charlie, that I gave three decades to, I ran for office five times. I mean, you know, running for office in New York is a blood spoiler, take it from me. And I got all the scars to prove it. And if I were to say I'm giving up, then I would have to give up on my whole career, and I'm not ready to do that. I pray that there is something that's done, because Americans want to know that the justice system works for everyone. And, you know, in addition to this book, Don't Lie to Me, I wrote a book called He Killed Them all about Robert Durst. And he got away with it for many years in New York. He was a serial murderer because his father was one of the scions of real estate in New York City. Durst. And when I went after him, man, they threw everything at me but the kitchen sink. And, you know, they have the money to make the motions to, you know, sway public opinion. And it's very sad. The rich get away with things that other people might not. And I tried very hard as a DA not to do that in my office, and we didn't.
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Well, Judge, you did an amazing job, and you have done an amazing job. I'm with you, though. I don't want to lose faith in our justice system because it is the greatest in the world. And due process, cross examination of witnesses, a jury of your peers. This is a system that is built in common law and built in the defense, most importantly, of the innocent, where you're innocent until proven guilty. This is a system that has worked. But I'm gonna be honest, Judge. If they're gonna continue to indict people like Bannon and Stone and d', Souza, I'm not saying they did nothing wrong. That is not my opinion. And they're gonna leave Brennan and Clapper and Comey and Strzok and Page untouched after just the mountain of evidence that we have seen against them. And horrible. And again, the difference is that a lot of these people that I just mentioned, they were private citizens when they were doing whatever it was they were doing. These are people in the highest levels of authority of the Federal Bureau of Investigation or the intelligence agencies. And if that power goes unchecked, forget it. I mean, that justice system is a very, very dangerous road to go on. So, Judge, the book Is again called Don't Lie to Me. Any other takeaways from the book you want our audience to know about? There it is right there. Don't lie to me. I'm encouraging everyone to go pick up a copy. Any other takeaways or pieces of information you want to share about the book that we didn't get to cover the book?
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When I was in law school, I was on law review and I don't say that very often. In fact, I probably haven't said it in the last 20, 30 years. But there are footnotes in the book and the reason I reference that is you get into an argument with someone, the footnotes are all in here. You know, I'm tired of people and the lies. That's why I wrote Don't Lie to Me. Stop trying to steal our freedoms from whether it's getting a gun, going to church, going to work, all of those things that we all want to do. But the footnotes are in here. When you have an argument with someone, just go to the book, you know, and you'll hear my voice in this book.
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It's all me ranting, you're a great American judge. Thank you for all you do for our country and everyone go pick up a copy. Don't lie to me right now. Let's get on the New York Times bestseller list.
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Thank you, Charlie. Good luck to you in Turning Point.
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Thanks. God bless, Judge. See you soon.
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God bless.
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