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all right. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is Tuesday, June 16th here at the Y Refi Studios in Phoenix, Arizona. Welcome back to the studio, Blake.
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Howdy.
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We got a lot to get to today. There is a new story breaking this morning that apparently UFC America 250 at the White House, which was a huge triumph for the administration, for the country, it was a beautiful event, had actually been targeted by looks like domestic violent extremists. And by that it actually does seem to hold true. The expression does hold true. There's a network of dozens that have been 23 people, 23 people that have been identified as part of this ring by the FBI. There was drones that were planned to be weaponized and sent in. They had attack zones, snipers, all kinds of things.
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Let's lay it out. So what they caught is they caught a signal, group signals of chat you can have on your phone, your computer. They were in various places around the country. And what they were talking about, as you said was, was they were talking about doing a coordinated multi member attack on the Freedom 250 event. Their idea was they would fly explosive drones into buildings to start a panic. People would flee in specific directions, probably heard it along by barriers already put up. And then they would have sniper teams ready to open fire on them. And it's not clear just how far they got with this, but According to the FBI, some members of this chat did travel to Fredericksburg, Virginia. About an hour south of D.C. to a couple days before to make preparations. Now, given how ambitious this sounds, I still get the feeling this might not have come to fruition. We can hope. But it's clearly the level of speculation where the FBI was right to get involved.
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Well, and so investigators are claiming that this part of and this court in the New York Post, a far right accelerationist ideology, which they linked to the San Diego Moss shooting. We're going to take issues with that. But investigators learned that their aim was to take out capitalist elites, billionaires and politicians who received money from AIPAC officials. Told the Post. So this is a traditional way of looking at political ideologies is on a linear graph. Right? You got the left and then you got the right. Okay. Now there's something called horseshoe theory, which we haven't talked about on this show because I'm.
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This is a chance to explain it.
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I'm not always convinced that I believe in the way it's presented, but it is something right now that I think is becoming more and more true. And that is the idea that it's actually a horseshoe. And at the extreme tips, the left and right sort of bleed together and it's. They have less distinction. They become more like one another than different.
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You're vastly more likely to see someone who is a extremely politically far to the right flip to saying, actually, I'm a revolutionary socialist communist than you are to see them flip the supposedly lesser distance to, oh, I'm a centrist moderate who cares about growing the economy.
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Actually, I actually think this is somewhat to explain Graham Platner, who had a Nazi tattoo. He would have probably at some points considered himself kind of a radical fringe righty in some ways. But then he flipped over and now he's just a communist socialist.
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Think about what we're seeing here. They're saying it's far right, but on the right, we're usually more in favor of free markets. We're usually more in favor of billionaires existing. I don't think Andrew or I have a problem with Elon Musk becoming a trillionaire because he started multiple incredibly groundbreaking companies that did amazing things for the country and for America, for their employees. But on the far, far right, you're starting to see stuff that does sound like someone who could be a jilted Bernie Sanders fan. We need to take out the billionaires, the billionaire class or the AIPAC stuff. We've had violent anti Israel demonstrations and radicalism has been a thing on the left for ages, but we see it growing on the right as well. And so you see this bleeding intermingling of how they of their sentiment. And so you see these guys who are in the signal chat who. This could easily be the motivation of a far left cell. People who love Luigi Mangioni. Oh, we want to kill billionaires and people who take money from the Israel Lobby. That could easily be someone who's a fan of Hasan Piker. That could easily be a fan of any number of radical left movements. But they're characterizing them as right wing here. And so we have to start poking at that, that there's a funnel from I am on the right to just being a hard leftist and that includes revolutionary violence.
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Yeah, well, and this is so some of the key similarities according to the horseshoe theory. And again, I chew the meat and spit out the bones when it comes to this. I don't buy it completely, but there does tend to be a draw towards authoritarianism. Right. Preference for strong centralized state power. They have an us versus them mentality, binary worldview, conspiracy thinking, scapegoating of enemies. Sounds pretty familiar. By the way, based on what they just said, targeting billionaires and the elites and those who take money from aipac. Rejection of liberalism, opposition to free markets, individual rights, compromise, all those kind of things that make a democracy function. Constitutional republic in the case of the United States, populism and totalitarianism. See, populism, conservative populism can be a very useful and good thing. But this is one of the things that political scientists have sort of put as something that they've seen from both sides. When you talk about the horseshoe theory, cults of personality, propaganda, willingness to use violence or revolution. Okay. And I do think that when people look at, for example, the Nazis, you know, there's a tendency to call that a far right fascist. You know, funny thing with that political
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ideology, I would even conclude that I think the Nazis were a radical third way ideology, so might even call it radical centrism. The point is, politics can be a complicated beast. It's not really as simple as just a linear line where something very far over here is as far away as you can get from something over here. It's that getting really far away from what you might call the political mainstream means you're more likely, I'd say, to be resentful of what's going on, more likely to be just an iconoclast in general, more likely to rebel, and unfortunately more likely, I think, to be seduced by violent fantasies. A lot of people, if they're trying to burn down a City after George Floyd. It's not really that they're necessarily that agitated about George Floyd. It's that they're agitated against society in general and that gives them something to violently blow up against. And I think some of that happens on the right as well. And they end up finding a lot that they like on the left. And that's why I want to push at this, that they are getting seduced by fundamentally left wing fantasies.
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Yeah, essentially it becomes left wing right because you believe in castigating an entire group or a class or scapegoating people as opposed to holding people accountable for their own actions, for example. That would be a fundamentally left wing view of the world. When you horseshoe around, you end up exhibiting a lot of those same characteristics. So that's why we say it now, accelerationism, let's just define that as well, because they're calling it a radical far right accelerationist ideology. Now accelerationism is where you say, we're gonna burn it all down, blow up the system. It's essentially a revolutionary perspective. You're gonna burn it all down so that out of the ashes you can build something more ideologically pure. Okay, so instead of working with the current gop, for example, you are going to say, well, I'm vote Democrat because I want to get all these people out of office so we can replace them with people that reflect my view.
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And as we've warned you, as Charlie warned before, this is an ideology of failure. It's an ideology of rejecting real work. To say, actually by losing I win is how that's your excuse for doing nothing or doing nothing useful and it has to be rejected.
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So we have a lot of clips. JD Vance is doing a bit of a media blitz and I love it. I think JD Vance is one of the most talented politicians in the entire country, regardless of which side when it comes to going up against adversarial media. Okay, so he actually, I think he did Fox and Friends first, if I'm not mistaken. So he went on there and he actually addressed some of this, some of these news reports. I want to get to that first. And I think he raises a really important point here. Sat 23.
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So much of the far left rhetoric is driving itself towards violence. We're trying to look at the underground networks that drive towards this violence. 23 people do not get to the point where they're going to commit a mass terror incident in Washington D.C. without some serious funding, without some serious coordination. And we've actually been trying to go with those networks of coordination because this is a. It's a terrorist plot. That's not a few guys doing crazy stuff. That is a coordinated, planned terrorist plot. Thank God we thwarted it, but we got to do more of that stuff.
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Yeah, and he's right. It is a terrorist plot. And we do have a picture of one of these guys. His name is Tyson. Tyson proper out of Ohio. He's been arrested by the FBI for helping to plan this. I mean, just look at this guy. Now you look at this guy, and again, to our earlier point, you'd think he kind of looks like a winger, right winger. But this is what happens when you become an extremist. When you're bent on violence and revolution, your ideology becomes indistinguishable from that of many people on the violent left.
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I could see that guy getting arrested
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at a Portland courthouse, too. Yeah, I see.
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You just need, like, one tattoo, and
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then it would look like he's one step away from being full antifa. That's the point we're making, and that's a trend that we're seeing in our politics. Okay, so JD Goes on the View, and I mean, he's going through everything. The guy is just so talented at this. So, for example, on affordability, he says that they're alleging that Trump doesn't care about affordability. He calls that a hoax. Here we go. Jeffrey Epstein. I know this is interesting for a lot of you out there, so let's go ahead and play it. 36.
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One of the things you see in the Epstein emails is that Jeffrey Epstein hated Donald Trump and that Donald Trump literally reported Jeffrey Epstein to the police. That's one of the things that came out of these.
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They were best friends for about a decade. And remember, he signed that Transparency act under duress. When some Republican women congresswomen like Lauren Boebert, like Marjorie Taylor Greene, did not give in to his pressure of not signing, he brought Lauren Boebert into the Situation Room to pressure her into caving on not voting for that bill.
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So let me respond to that.
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So it's all true.
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Let me. Let me respond to that. So, number one is, yes, Donald Trump, he said this. He knew Jeffrey Epstein back in the 1980s. He also threw Jeffrey Epstein out of his club when he found out it was a creep and reported him to the police. That's something that the media often misses when it reports this story. They tell the fact that they knew each other in the 80s, which the president himself admits. They ignore the fact that he narked on him to the police and led ultimately to Jeffrey Epstein's downfall.
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And by the way, the New York Post is actually reporting that his lawyer, Epstein's lawyer says that he was obsessed with taking down Trump in his final days. So before Jeffrey Epstein died, committed suicide or was killed, whatever happened to him, he was obsessed with President Trump. Why? Because President Trump ended up being successful President of the United States. Yeah, they did have real estate squabbles in Florida. That's probably one of the reasons they don't like each other. But President Trump reported him to the police, narc on him. As JD Said, it's a huge thing that the left doesn't want to talk about. But he continues on here, by the way. Actually, I don't think we have that clip. But he continued on in the clip and basically dismantled every single Epstein accusation that they're throwing at him. For example, President Trump. JD Says he was there when President Trump called the Senate and said, pass the Transparency Act. I want to sign it. So President Trump. Okay. And this happened to me. Anytime you talk about Jeffrey Epstein, you have to do so with fear and trembling of getting clipped up on the Internet and misrepresented. For example, last week, on Thursday, I said there was no there there when it came to their deliberations inside the Situation Room. I read the article from the New York Times, but I did not mean that there was no there there at all. I'm with J.D. j.D. Said this in this interview with the View this morning. I believe there's a there there. Some guy, some crazy, you know, con man doesn't get that rich and powerful and that much influence without there being some there there. What I meant was there was no there there with President Trump. And they acknowledged that in the Situation Room. They said, hey, let's go full transparency. There's nothing to hide from President Trump. So that's the point. And JD Made that point very clear. President Trump picked up the phone and said, let's get full transparency. So anyways, there's lots of great clips here, Blake. I don't know if any of these are standing out. Oh, you know what? This was great, too. 37. Where JD is explaining why he went from Trump critic to the vice president. 37.
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I was a critic of Donald Trump back in 2015 and 2016. Now, obviously, I'm sitting here as the Vice President, United States in the Trump administration. Well, Joy, a little humility, actually. I think that when you make predictions and those predictions turn out to be false, you got to ask yourself, well, what. What made me wrong about that? What did I not understand or not appreciate. For example, I said that Donald Trump's economic policies would not lead to wage growth. They did in the first term. That was actually a major, major thing. I said that we couldn't bring back any of those factory jobs because I kind of had given into this idea that those jobs were disappearing. But actually, Donald Trump, you saw a manufacturing boom during that administration. So there's a certain point, let me just so there's a certain point where you say, you know, I made predictions about this, I ended up being wrong. And in politics and anything, I think it's important to just say, you know what, I got some things wrong and I was wrong about him.
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A little humility, Blake. That's refreshing to hear from a politician. A little humility. Good for you. J.D. vance I just think again, I don't know what took them so long to put him on this media tour, but he's doing Fox and Friends, he's doing Megyn Kelly's, doing the View. He did Sean Hannity last night.
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But it's well timed because he's got to he's going to have to be the chief messenger of this peace deal. And the it's going to be we know it's going to be a challenge with some constituencies and he's going to have to be able to pass this test because it's only going to get harder if he runs in 2028. So this is a good battleground for a very important more we have to wage.
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He did make a comment, too, that a lot of people are taking notice of that. He believes that the president will be supportive of him whatever he decides to do. There we go. More Americans are starting to ask an important question. Why is it so difficult to get access to medications you may already know you need? If your health is your responsibility, why are outside systems deciding what you can have and when you're allowed to get it? That's one reason I recommend All Family Pharmacy. They make it super simple to order a wide range of medications online. From everyday maintenance medications to travel and emergency preparedness options, the process is straightforward, secure, and it's designed for people who value convenience and peace of mind. Whether you're preparing for a trip, dealing with pharmacy shortages, or simply want to be proactive for your family, All Family Pharmacy helps put you back in control. And right now, when you visit allfamilypharmacy.com Kirk and use promo code KIRK10, you'll save 10% off your order because being prepared isn't political, it's just responsible. So visit allfamilypharmacy.com Kirk and use code Kirk. 10 for 10% off. All right, so Steve Hilton is actually finishing up a press conference. He's unveiling his tax plan for the Golden State.
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We'll get him as soon as we can. But there is another. We mentioned going out of the last segment that JD's media tour is well timed because he's gotta be a spokesman for the Iran deal, which some people are skeptical of. So he's making the case for peace for America, for a vibe shift back to a domestic focus. He's had a lot to say about it. Let's play clip 26.
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This is good for the American people. The Iranians don't get a dime unless they behave and change their behavior. And this means that Iran will never have a nuclear weapon shot.
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They say they don't get a dime.
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Do they ever get an American dime? A taxpayer dollar?
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No. So, number one, first of all, they never get a dime of American taxpayer money, ever. Full stop. Not even close.
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And that's been a big piece of misinformation that's been put out there is that American money will somehow go to them. Now, there is a promise, potentially, it's not a promise. There is a carrot and a stick deal, right? So if they misbehave, they get the stick. If they behave well, they get the carrot that regional partners could invest if they so choose. No obligation to do so in a redevelopment fund for Iran. Right? Iran's been obliterated. Its infrastructure's crumbling. There could be incentives for good behavior. That's how any deal should be structured.
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The point of this has to be that the goal of this throughout is we don't actually want to be in a permanent war with Iran. We want to actually have a productive relationship with Iran. And so any peace deal is going to have a component of. If you guys stop chasing after nuclear bomb, if you stop treating America as the Great Satan, if you stop endlessly creating conflict with us, this can be a favorable relationship. You can grow. You can be as rich as Saudi Arabia or the United Arab Emirates or Qatar, these countries that don't wage war on us. And so they're far lovelier countries to be in than Iran. So you do want to be able to offer those carrots, but they are conditional, as he says.
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Yeah, it looks like we're close to having Steve. Wow, we have Steve.
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Excellent.
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Steve Hilton, the next governor of the state of California. Welcome, sir. I know you just wrapped up a press conference you ran right over here. You're very generous with your time, so thank you for that. Tell us the breaking news. Let's start there. You just. Sacramento's passing a bunch of new taxes on the people of California. You've got a different vision. It looks like he might have froze.
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You know, California's infrastructure is crumbling.
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Do we have him? Okay, we're hanging. So why don't we just throw up his tweet if we can? We do have that. He's got a vision for California's tax future that is distinct from. I think it's fair to say, yeah, he said basically the corrupt establishment system in Sacramento just passed a bunch of new taxes. And so today, Steve unveiled his own tax plan. And it looks like we may or may not have him. No, he's frozen again, folks. This is live tv. This is what happens.
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This is what's happening in California. It's crumbling. This is the state that gave us the Internet.
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Alright. So I thought that was Al Gore.
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Oh, you know, but the people who actually did it.
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So let's. So this. I'm gonna wait for Steve until he can describe it himself. But another big story dropped yesterday that is of note, and that is that Gavin Newsom came out and said that he is under investigation, he and his wife, by the Department of Justice. And he's blaming Trump, of course. SOP 30.
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In recent days, federal agents have knocked on the doors of family, friends and former employees. Not because they found a crime, because they're simply trying to find one. They're demanding records. They're abusing the grand jury process, digging through years and years of random documents. Donald Trump isn't just coming after me because of my mean tweets. He's coming after me because I'm considering running for president. Because he hates that I've consistently called him out over and over again for his lies and deceit. Donald Trump is simply the most corrupt president in American history. Mr. President, come after me. I'm not going anywhere. And the country is watching.
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He might also have thrown in. They're coming after me because my former chief of staff just pleaded guilty to three felonies a few weeks ago. Might be something related to it, but we do finally have Steve back, it looks like. So. Steve, are you there?
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Guys? You're so right, by the way. We're on the road the whole time in California. I cannot tell you the amount of times the calls drop. You can't get a signal with the tech capital of the world, but can't get a phone signal. Sorry about that.
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No, you're good.
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So quickly on the tax plan, we have the highest cost of living in the country because of their insane policies. And then yesterday, they pass another budget increasing spending, increasing taxes, including another $400 on people's health insurance plans, if you have private health insurance, at the same time as they're increasing by billions of dollars spending on free health care for illegal immigrants. So they're basically gouging. California's Javier Becerra just wants more of the same. He's my opponent. Today I announced my tax plan, which is to increase the amount that you get tax free. Last year, I put forward a plan, your first hundred grand tax free, that got great reaction. We've been on the road. People have been saying we love it. But actually, there's a lot of people in California, 100 grand doesn't get you very far. A lot of state, a lot of counties. That's officially the level for low income. So people have been saying, can we raise it? And that's what I'm announcing today. Now, it's going to be 150 grand tax free. The way we can pay for that is a slight adjustment to what I was going to do. Above 100 grand, which was a flat tax of 7.5%. Now that's going to be 8%. So that's how we make it work. But the bottom line is 9 million Californians who earn 150 grand or less will now no longer pay state income tax.
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When I'm governor, I can't imagine there'd be too many that would be upset with that, Steve. That is. There's a lot of voters. Nine million's a lot. So hopefully we get the word out, because, you know, you guys in the state of California and I used to live there, the state income tax is a huge, huge deal. I mean, I think the top bracket is 13.1%, 13.3.
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And the thing that's outrageous is that it's a. It's really complicated. You've got all these different rates. But what's outrageous is that after 72 grand of earnings, which really, you struggle to live on that in California, you're paying 9.3% state income tax that is higher than the top rate in most other states. It's ridiculous. And that's why this plan makes such sense. But I don't know how long we have. But if you want me to sort of jump in on the Gavin Newsom
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thing, I'll just go ahead.
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Let me just point one thing out. Okay, What's. We don't know I don't know the details. Right. We're waiting to see. There's reporting from serious reporters in Sacramento that this whole thing was initiated not by Donald Trump, as Newsom is pretending, but by whistleblowers within California. And the whole thing began partly under the Biden administration in the first place. I don't know the details, so I don't want to comment till we've seen more. What I will say is that you've got a system of legalized corruption in California politics. And one of the things that's most outrageous is this thing which when I first heard about it, I couldn't believe, called behested payments. Behested payments are when a politician, and Newsom has used this extensively, literally can phone someone up and say, I'd like you to give money to this or that cause. And the cause can often be very connected to his own political work. For example, there's something called something like the California Protocol Project or something which basically funds foreign trips for the governor. That counts as being able to get a behested payment, which is just totally outrageous. And one of the things that's been going on is that he's been asking companies and others to give money to his wife's nonprofit. And that's one of the, the speculation is that some of this investigation is to do with that. But what's completely outrageous is that you've got, you've got not just the governor, other politicians can phone people up, businesses who they regulate and ask them to give money to their pet causes. It is legalized corruption and it has to end. And I will stop it.
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Well, and you know, it's interesting because you got Gavin Newsom, you've got Jennifer Siebel Newsom, you've got Javier Becerra, who's also got issues, a scandal plaguing him with, I think his former chief of staff, he took him to Washington. But you articulated it brilliantly in the debate where he didn't think he was going to get paid enough money in government, so they found a workaround to get him more money.
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Exactly.
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It is corruption at the deepest level because they all feel so entitled to, to these kickbacks and greasing the skids.
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That's what you get with one party rule. Sixteen years now where it's one party rule. They think they can get away with anything. They feel entitled to public money. They feel entitled to endlessly increase, you know, gouge taxpayers by increasing budgets and then handing it out to their pet causes, whether that's government unions, left wing causes, and activists. This is why we have to end the corruption. And that's the top line of my argument in this campaign. I'm gonna go to Sacramento and clean up this corrupt system that has given us the highest cost of living, the highest poverty rate, the highest unemployment rate in America. Because they don't care about regular people. They just care about their own insider interests. And that's the corruption you get from one party rule. That's why I'm confident we're gonna win this year.
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Well, it's such a good point, Steve. This should be the pitch. I don't care what you think of Republicans or the R, the scarlet letter R in California for some, right? I don't care what you think. It is insane to continue giving one party unchecked rule of a state as big as and important and rich as California. All you will get is corruption, bloat and absolute misery for the people, which is what you're seeing. So who cares exactly what letter is next to Steve's name? You need somebody to put these people on notice and check them. All right, Steve, I haven't had you back on since all the election fiasco stuff. All right? Spencer Pratt gets totally railroaded in Los Angeles. I think it was harder for them to pull off this kind of organized scheme statewide. You withstood the onslaught. You came in second though, even though you were leading on all the polls. But you are now in the runoff against Javier Becerra, which is what we wanted. So, hey, we got here first. What do you make of all of the allegations? The investigation by the U.S. attorney's Office, Bill Assailee, so many others are now looking into it. First question, second question. What is it gonna take to win?
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So on the whole voting thing, I mean, obviously there's the complete fiasco of how long it takes. And that's ridiculous. And I had a whole plan for accelerating that. And the biggest thing we can do to stop all that insanity is have voter id, which is going to be on the ballot in November. And that's a big part of the story of how I'm going to win, by the way, on the voting. I think it's very important to understand the connection between what we saw happen in particular in LA and some of these reports that I've been putting out through. We've talked over the months about Cal Doch and the fraud reports that we've putting out. Many of the examples of fraud that we've uncovered in the system in California have been examples of public money being siphoned off into Democrat front organizations that do political activity to build the Democrat machine. The very first fraud report that we published back in I think February was $350 million that we found from the cannabis tax in California that was supposed to be spent on substance abuse prevention, actually going to over 500 Democrat organizations. And then when you look at what they do in it is voter registration and ballot harvesting. And so what you're seeing in these elections is the culmination of the machine that they've built up through the fraud over the years. It's a very important connection. It's not actually illegal. It's just outrageous and corrupt in terms of what it's going to take to win. It's basically what I've been talking about here today. My plan to make our state Cal affordable. Your first 150 grand tax free, $3 gas, cut your utility bills in half a home you can afford to buy. It's positive, practical things that are not particularly ideological, they're not partisan. They just give people some relief after the endless gouging on taxes and the increasing cost through the bloat in the government and the insanity of this one party rule. So I think we've got. Look, I know that people look at this race, especially here, the Democrats, they're totally complacent. They assume they've got it in the bag. Becerra is going to be the governor. They have no idea what's about to hit them in terms of the energy and the force of this campaign that we're about to run, both in holding him accountable. Becerra, who you couldn't get, someone who is the living embodiment of more of the same. 36 years a career politician in the California corrupt machine. And so we will be ferocious in holding him to account because what is he? He's just more of the same cost, incompetence, failure and corruption. And we're going to be very strong on that as well as laying out a positive alternative centered around my plan to make our state Cal affordable. They haven't faced a candidate like me. They don't understand what's about to hit them. This race is going to be much closer than anyone thinks. I'm very confident that we can win, not least because a majority of Californians now on every poll, so it's 57, 60% think that it's time for change. We're going in the wrong direction. And that's why in November, I think there's going to be a shock and the whole country's going to Hear it.
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Steve, you're so right. Becerra is such an awful candidate. Even the Democrats don't like this guy. He was an incompetent in dc. He made nothing but enemies. He has corrupt scandals plaguing him. The big question for me is not would a majority of Californians choose you in a straight up election? The bigger question is you talk about these NGOs, the machine, they're out registering homeless people. They're out paying them for votes. We've seen it on camera. These homeless people are admitting what they're doing. The machine is the question. So I just tried to do a little search on how much money from the state budget goes to NGOs annually. And it's basically, it comes up, in short, it's difficult to pin down. But tens of billions annually is the most accurate high level answer. Tens of billions are going to this cabal, this network of NGOs that is a complete corruption of the system and it's a bastardization of the intent of an ngo. And it's just used to enforce and protect their power structure.
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G
That's right. It's exactly right. We've been documenting that. What I would say is, yeah, they've got the machine, but we got the people. People want change in California.
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B
Yes.
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G
And it's, and I really feel, feel, I just feel that there's no way that they're going to vote for more of the same when it's so painful for regular people. Now we're going to work very hard. We're going to build our own machine. By the way, we're going to get our vote out. And voter ID being on the ballot in November is going to bring a lot of people out to vote for our side.
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B
Steve, do you believe that Spencer Pratt had the election stolen from him?
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G
No, I don't think it's a stolen. The trouble is it's legal. This is legalized corruption. And so it's not the right way of thinking about it. I think that the truth is that they've built a corrupt machine and it's worked as intended, but that's what we're up against and we have to be really clear about that. Of course, once I'm elected, we gotta stop this corruption and the fraud and the flow of taxpayer money to build the Democrat machine. That's got to stop.
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You don't need to break the law when it's perfectly legal for you to send paid activists to go door to door, find everyone got a mail ballot to every single person they can go to every Homeless person, help them fill out the ballot, witness the signature. Why break the law? The law is entirely on your side.
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Steve, we got to go, but we have your back 100%. We're watching very closely. If you can pull this off, Steve, you will be an all time hero. And we've got your back. Everybody support Steve's campaign. He needs all the funding and resources you can send him. God bless you, Steve. Thank you guys.
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G
Good to see you.
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B
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It is a deadly sin.
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B
It is a deadly sin.
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The worst of the seven deadly sins, conventionally.
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And you know, it's interesting, we just had JD Vance talking about what reconciled him to President Trump, and that was humility. And that is a good thing. So we should lift up the humble, not the proud. Okay, so anyways, so the Giants, San Francisco Giants, obviously, San Francisco being somewhat enthusiastic. It's somewhat prideful. San Francisco, they have a Pride night. And guess what? They had a rainbow colored logo for the hats. But three pitchers decided they were going to rebel and they included Bible verses on the hats. Please show these hats for the. For the good folks at home. The hats are colorful with Bible verses. There they go right there. There's one. And three pitchers did this. And the MLB decided in its great wisdom to issue a warning. And this is pitchers Landon Roop, J.T. brubaker, and Ryan Walker. And they did this during the Pride Night game against the Chicago Cubs. So Pat Courtney, MLB's chief communication officer, said in a statement that the writing on the cap violates our rules and consistent with normal practices, if we have warned the players about future violations now. So the MLB's perspective is that they're not fining them for liking the Bible or warning them about potential fines for liking the Bible. It's that you can't alter the uniform on the field. There is a rule against that. All three wrote Genesis 9:12:6 on their cap, which.
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D
Let's read it. Do you have it ready to go?
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B
A reference to Genesis 9:12 6, in which God establishes a covenant with humanity after the the biblical flood, using the rainbow as its sign.
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D
Yes. It says, I'll do the King James Version, because that's what popped up. And God said, this is the token of the covenant which I made between you and between me and you and every living creature that is with you for perpetual generations. I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth. And it shall come to pass when I bring a cloud over the earth that the bow shall be seen in the cloud. And I will remember my my covenant which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh. And the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.
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This is the famous part of the scriptures where God promises never to flood the earth again. And it's a beautiful thing. And he sends the rainbow up into the sky and it's a symbol that every time we see the bow, the rainbow in the sky, that God is saying he has made a covenant with us as humans to never kill us all. Okay. That he will never flood the earth again now. So they were speaking with reporters after the game. Mr. Roope said one of the pitchers the passage was not intended as an attack. It's just about God's covenant and a promise that he makes to us, his faithfulness and his mercy, he said, according to Sports Illustrated. That's just kind of something I believe in and I stand firm in that now. I'm all for this. I think this was brilliant, by the way, that they did this because Reclaim the Rainbow is, I think, a tremendous campaign and we should reclaim the rainbow. God's covenant of life and mercy to us all has somehow been co opted by the lgbtqia, CIA plus Ms. You got the acronym? Blake's always good at the acronym.
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D
Ms. 13.
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The Ms. 13 folks. But literally they are the Rainbow Jihadis. How did God's symbol of mercy for Humanity get co opted by people that basically stand in defiance of God's order and his design. Now, I think it's very appropriate to show compassion and mercy and friendship to people that experience that kind of lifestyle or maybe they struggle with it. I know there's a lot of Christians that have, you know, experienced that or struggled with that, that don't want to live that way. And that's. I admire that. Okay. But when you are proud, pride. Pride is loudly shouting it and saying, this is something I am so excited about and I'm proud of it. And by the way, it's not just enough to tolerate me. It's not just what Charlie would warn about. Yes. It's not just enough to put up or say live and let live. No, they want to be celebrated. And ultimately they want you to participate. This is what they want for your children. And we've seen this. And this is why all the pushback of the trans insanity was so powerful. Because finally we said enough is enough. And yes, Charlie did talk about it. There is a cycle. It goes from tolerance all the way to participation. And they will make you do it. And that's what they made the San Francisco Giants pitchers do. The entire team. They had to participate. They had to put the rainbow on their cap and celebrate Pride Night. Why? Because they're part of a professional sports league that endorses this. And they said, listen, the rainbow is a symbol from God actually about his mercy to humanity after the flood. It's a covenant with God and they get warned about this. Now, Blake, the question is, do you believe their explanation that this was actually just standard protocol? You can't alter the uniforms.
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I think that if the player. We've seen this where if players are breaking the rules and it's in an ideologically approved direction, they're not going to make as big a fuss about it. If this was mercifully, their games were canceled during peak Covid, so we didn't have to endure this as much. But if they were breaking the rules, if George Floyd had died and they said, I'm going to draw a one of those black power fists on my hat, I don't think the MLB would do much about it. I don't think they would say much about it.
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I have a feeling, and I think
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these men found a very reasonable way to show. I don't really like this, but I'm not going to scream about it. I'm going to write a Bible verse that incorporates the rainbow. That is a very light touch way of going about this. They could throw the hats in the garbage, they could say, they could make a big fuss, and they could get themselves in a lot more trouble. We'd probably enjoy it if they did. But they took a very mild approach, and I think MLB is showing how intensely this is the new. It's a. They want to make it a part of the national religion that you have to believe this and you have to celebrate it.
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B
This is the civic religion of the United States, had become before President Trump that thou shalt worship at the altar of the LGBTQ folks, that you will be a part of it, you will be complicit, you will accept, you will celebrate, and you will participate in it. And for the MLB to warn them and to go on record warning them is a very disastrous misstep for the mlb. Because I can assure you, mlb, there are more of us than there are of the people that believe in this pride propaganda garbage. Okay? Your fans are not doing Pride Month. Most of them. Okay? This is a huge mistake for you guys to take this on and to go public with it. So to this, I don't know who's the. Who's the guy here again? Landon Roop? No, that's one of the good guys. MLB's chief communications officer, Pat Courtney. You should not be warning the players. You should take warning, because if you go through with this, if you find them for standing up for their faith, their Christian faith, in a subtle act, as Blake said, a classy, understated protest, then you will have holy hell rain down on you from your fans. And you don't want that. MLB is America's sport.
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D
They might have holy hell rain on them from somewhere else.
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You do not want to take on the fans of the MLB because I guarantee you, they do not agree with your stance. Mlb and it shows the capture, the corporate capture and the ideological capture at the top levels of America's sports league. And it's disgusting and we don't want any more of it. And keep America's game pure, please. We want nothing to do with this. And if anything, this is getting off easy.
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And God bless these guys for doing something. We know there are players who could say something and do nothing at all, so God bless them because we are supposed to be public Christians. We are supposed to do the brave thing rather than the safe thing.
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Man, I totally agree. They are totally brave. And, you know, you might even go buy some of their jerseys, although that would benefit the San Francisco Giants. Maybe you can get custom JerryRig one. Yes, exactly. Support those players. So there's a couple more stories related to the Giants story that we just covered that I want to get into. So, obviously the MLB is being anti Christian. By the way, God bless Rob Schneider for volunteering to pay any of the fines that these players might incur, which, I mean, they make a lot of money, but some of these pitchers actually don't. What's the MLB minimum?
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It's like, oh, it's a few hundred thousand, but some guys are only in the league. It's not like the NFL where if you're on a team, you're probably there for a full season. Some of these guys, they, I don't know this, they get called up, they go back down. Some guys oscillate constantly. So they're actually in this middle income range. And if you're also, if you're a pitcher, you blow out your arm once and you're just, you're done. And that can easily happen to some of these players. Pro sports can be a very brief stint in the spotlight.
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They're not all rich. The point is. So Rob Schneider coming to their defense is great.
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D
I totally have those California taxes we were just talking about.
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B
Oh, my goodness. Yeah. You know, there's actually some players that refused to play in New York or California because of the tax situation.
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D
Oh, God bless them.
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B
Yeah. Seriously. So we're talking about anti Christian bias. Well, there's a new report out from Fox News. You could throw the headline up. Report links anti Christian extremism and assassination culture to alleged plot against Erica Kirk and others. This isn't just Erica, but there was a man arrested that had plotted to harm Turning Point. And Erica at our Women's Leadership Summit just last week in San Antonio. So the. It's called the Network Contagion. Research Institute says that U.S. capitol Police threat assessment showed a 58% increase in threats against members of Congress from 2024 and 2025. And threats have overall doubled since 2020. So this research institute studies how radical ideology spread across digital networks and social media. They analyze the threats against Erica and others to assess the level of danger and how permission structure plays a role in originating the threat. And this is what we've really been talking about, the permission structure undergirding this
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entire social permission structure.
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Yes, it's when Hasan Piker gets up there and he talks about social murder and why Brian Thompson, the CEO of United Healthcare, probably had it coming. Okay? This is what happens when they call you Hitler and they call you Nazis and they call you fascists and they dehumanize you again and again and again, or they call you a pedoprotector. This is the new one that I'm gonna raise the alarm bells on, is that when they accuse people of protecting pedophiles, it's creating a permission structure. Because, listen, if somebody is legitimately protecting pedophiles and allowing the rape and the
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law, and if they're above the law,
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as they're above the law, then, yeah, you could see how certain people might take matters into their own hands and plot an assassination attempt.
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It's a modern update on, you know, when people say, oh, they're doing a modern Holocaust. And people think, well, if I was in Nazi Germany and I had the ability to prevent the Holocaust through some act of guerrilla violence, people will. They'll have this fantasy, they'll tell themselves, I would do that. And so when you go around and say holocaust, there's new, new genocide. Genocide. Genocide against trans people, genocide against whoever else. People who are unwell will take that very literally and they'll start plotting violence. And this pedo protector thing is a modern version of that. We all would act to save children that we knew were being preyed upon, that we knew were being victimized, abused, killed. And so when they just recklessly throw this around without proof, without evidence, they are sending unwell people over the deep end.
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All right, so this all plays in to what we're seeing online, and this is part of this report. What we're seeing is a massive influx of foreign malign influence that is truly shaping the Western world right now, particularly through social media. This is according to Travis Hawley, cyber threat and open source intelligence analyst at the Network Contagion Research Institute. What you could call our digital diet is really shaping how people see ourselves, our values and our country, and even our history. So there is a lot of countries that want to shape the discourse on social media in the United States because we are the most powerful country in the world. So this includes Neville Singham in China, wealthy individuals. This includes foreign malign interests out of Russia, perhaps Iran, perhaps other places. So anyways, this is really concerning, says Hawley, in really showing up how democracy actually has a weakness if it is not protected. Okay, so all of this is really direct. So all of it relates to our sports, all of it relates to anti Christian bias and about our feelings about our own country. One of the ways that that is manifesting is in how proud some Americans are to be American. You could see this manifesting in so many different ways. We have so much sports going on right now. It really is worth talking about. Scott Jennings addressed this on CNN as well. 44.
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According to some polling that came out this weekend, most Republicans love America. 90% are very proud to be Americans. They're proud of living in this country. Unfortunately, I think Mr. De Niro's comments are pretty indicative of a majority of Democrats who can't seem to find that attitude, which I applaud, inside them. To love your country even though you lost the last election and, you know, loving America, being a patriot for America, feeling good about America, shouldn't be dictated. But whether you want or lost, when I hear De Niro, I hear him saying, I can only love America if we win every election from here on out. That's a rather fascist statement.
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25 years ago, 90% of Republicans were proud or extremely proud to be American. And 87% of Democrats were as well. 25 years ago. Now, 25 years later, 92% of Republicans are proud to be Americans. We've actually gone up 2%. Only 36% of Democrats feel the same way. So it's not an exaggeration anymore to say the Democrats party hates America. And you can even see it through some of the comments made by the representatives. When it comes to who are you rooting for in the World cup slot 43 World cup is here.
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The first match this weekend at MetLife Stadium taking place in New Jersey, even though some people say it is technically New York. But what do you think will win it all? Who are you rooting for?
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I like Mexico. Mexico.
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There you go.
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I'm rooting for Senegal.
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Senegal.
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Okay, those are two Congress people.
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That's the mild version of it. You root against America, you're not proud of America, and then you have people who want to burn down America. Kill Americans, kill Christians. It's. We as leaders have a responsibility to push against it.
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Yeah, I hope so. Or maybe we should phrase it as a return because this is kind of how it used to feel. Right. Where so much of our attention. Yes. Is focused on what's happening in the world. As it should be. Right. There's more important things than sports. Sports is always an escape. That's the way I always approached it. That's why I wanted to be a sportscaster, because it was an escape from reality for so many people, no matter what was going on in your lives. So over the last. Let's just call it a week, it has been awesome to see. I mean, the NBA has had a lot of issues over the last, I'd say decade or maybe five, six years with wokeness and really just taking it really too far, where people kind of stopped watching. The ratings had tanked. I don't know what they are for this year's postseason. I think probably super high because it is the Knicks. It was the Knicks. And it was, you know, more than half a century since they'd really been able to have the potential to win the whole thing. So I'm sure the numbers were up. But overall, you take that. You take the excitement with the Victor Wembanyama in it, and it really was, in my mind, must see tv. Then you bring the World Cup. Listen, there's a ton of people. Jesse said it last night, right. I'm not even a soccer fan, and I'm interested in watching. When the whole world comes to your country, your eyes better be on it as well. And it really feels that way. And when you look at what foreigners are saying about our country and how great we are and calling Walmart a museum, then maybe we should start to take some of these things, not take them for granted as much. And then, of course, with UFC again, I just was able to look at the pictures and videos during and after, and it was incredible to watch. I mean, no other country does that. That video you're showing right there with the Thunderbirds and the Blue Angels together, it gives me chills even for those people out there who aren't huge UFC fans. Right. It has been incredible from a sports aspect, and I'll wrap with this part on it, because sports is the ultimate uniter on a football Sunday, a basketball Saturday at a UFC match, whatever it is, your race, your sex, your politics, your socioeconomic status, your religion, nothing matters. That is the foundation and the fabric of America. Nobody knows that more than Donald Trump. And I love what we have seen over the last week or so.
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B
Yeah, amen to that. And it does feel like you mentioned the foreigners coming into America appreciating what they're seeing. They're appreciating the Mac and cheese. They're driving down country roads listening to Ella Langley. They're in bars singing Country Roads. I mean, it really has given, I think, a lot of Americans fresh eyes to see how great our country is, too, which is why it's so depressing to hear people like Robert De Niro and all the polling that shows how little love the Democrat Party has currently for the United States, even though we are such a great country, you don't even have to say we're the best country in the world, but we're objectively a great country. So whatever it is, can't you put that aside and just say, hey, America, 250, we love you, even if you don't like the president. You got another crack at it in a couple years. I mean, what's there not to love about this great country, genuinely?
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Yeah, I think we're on the same page with that. I think the irony though, it's rich to watch a Robert De Niro at the podium saying the things that he has been saying for a long time now. I mean, the effort that it takes to find all the words and the big adjectives that I'm sure he had to put into a thesaurus to come up with to criticize the President, criticize America. I mean that energy, like that's an ugly place to be. And oh, by the way, try to go do that in some of these Middle Eastern countries, like you're actually going to be killed. Right? So the irony to me is something that we can never forget about. At the same time, they really are and I think have been the vocal minority, a very loud minority. And that is thanks to the echo chamber that mainstream media has been forever and certainly social media and X before Elon took over. But so now there's almost like a panic in the voices of the De Niro's and the Bette Midlers and even Julia Roberts. I was surprised to see her over doing that stuff this weekend. Am I behind? Is she one of them too? I guess so. But like, I think there's a panic because they feel like they're losing their grip on control of the mindset of so many, especially the youth. So they're going to get out there and they're going to scream it and be extra loud. But the way they're doing it, I mean, they're almost being mocked. And listen, I'm trying hard to be above it, be above the fray and be a good Christian and not make fun of them. But sometimes, I mean, sometimes I need to be mocked, right? Sometimes we all deserve that. And what they're doing, I just, it bothers me because of the timing. And we are imperfect, we all know that. We all acknowledge that, don't we? But there's so much more good than bad in this country. That is why everybody continues to try to come in. That's why people were coming in illegally at the border for all those years, right? So let them, let them waste their energy. They must be in a very dark place to want to continue to live like that. And I think we need to remember that. And in some ways it's healthier to ignore.
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B
I totally agree. Actually, you know, part of the mistake that we make as content creators is it's so fun to clown on them, but it actually gives them more oxygen. You know, you almost have to starve the grift here because you know, you got Julia Roberts. It's a hilarious clip. I have the team pulling it right now because it's really worth watching for her. I forgot about it. But she's up there in front during this counter programming and she starts, you know, it's like she went to way too many of these sort of new age health retreats and these counseling sessions where she's like leading the audience through woosa. Breathe out the hate. Breathe out the hate breathing techniques and breathe in the love. And it was like, Julia Roberts, you are worth hundreds of millions of dollars. You have been given every darn thing you worked for. Some of it. No disrespect there. I'm just saying this country has afforded you an amazing life. By the way we talk about Robert De Niro, I just looked it up. He's worth $500 million. What? Robert De Niro is worth $500 million. He's a C.O. owner, co founder of Nobu restaurants and the hotel empire with chef Nobu Matsuhisa. It's a global chain. So it's partly. He's gotten some of his money internationally. He's also the co owner of Tribeca Grill and a Greenwich Hotel. Dang. $500 million.
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$500 million.
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Yes.
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The country that makes that possible.
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Right.
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And let's condemn capitalism altogether from his penthouse in Tribeca. Right? So, but here's the problem is that for so long the left has been able to just take low hanging fruit and say, you know, white man, bad, capitalism, bad, you know, with their iPhones in their hands and having that penthouse in Tribeca. And people see it and go, yeah, you're right. Just because you don't like Donald Trump. So what I'm hoping for, especially with this younger generation, is that people dig a little bit deeper and don't just take that low hanging fruit. Don't just take those talking points and believe every single thing, like do some investigating. Maybe some of it you do agree with, maybe some of it you don't. But when you're told and the example you're being given by these leaders, mentors, people we're supposed to look up to, is led with hatred. Maybe start there and that's when to me they lose their credibility. So it's depressing. But at this point, it's kind of on us guys. If we were surprised by any of this behavior.
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Well, and this is exactly. But I will say that. Is this the Julia Roberts clip? Is this the one we'll see? She made a fool of herself multiple times. So hopefully this is the one we're talking about Stop 47.
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What they call death and void we know is breath voice in the end, gorgeously endures our Normandy you could believe departed to be the dawn when the blank night has so long stood. But our bright fled angels will never be fully gone when they forever are so fiercely good.
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F
No, I hadn't seen that one. I liked that the lights were so dark in the audience to make sure that we could only see that there were 12 people there, by the way,
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B
like, the average age of the audience was about 72.
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F
Perfect. You know what I'm so sad about? Because it's Julia Roberts. And Richard Gere was going crazy a couple of weeks ago too, overseas. And so I'm like, that was one of my. Yeah, that was one of my favorite movies. They've both lost their marbles while continuing to pocket hundreds of millions of dollars. But I think at least he moved. And I don't say this lightly, just leave the country. But I do mean that if it is so bad and so terrible and so depressing and you live in such fear, go somewhere better. Go somewhere where you feel safer. Take your family there. The funny thing is, they go and then what happens? Ellen DeGeneres, Rosie O', Donnell, they all come back. They're not going to acknowledge the real reasons why. But I mean that, like, if you're that uncomfortable, that's the beauty of America. You have the freedom to make those decisions. Go.
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I agree with you completely. Just leave.
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Just put your hand on your beating heart and just close your eyes and just take a really deep breath in and breathe in all that hope,
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all
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that love, and just breathe out all that fear. Just let it all go. And that is the power.
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Sorry, I just breathed out. Blake was doing it the whole day. He actually started.
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You know what I hope, My only hope is that she was high when doing it. Like, that's the only excuse. It's the only excuse for that. What has happened to the once lovely Julia Roberts? I don't know. But between her and De Niro, did you notice that they have those presidential teleprompters? Like, they had to read. Yeah, that's besides a peace moment there. They had to read all of their hatred. Like, it's just. It's hysterical.
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I think it's terrible. All right, so what happened to Julia Roberts? It's a great question. Somebody should write like a whole book about it. What happened to the once great Julia Roberts? All right, so here's. Maybe she was always this one that
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D
would sell ones of copies.
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B
Sage, that's your Next mission. All right, so even CNN is talking about this European phenomenon of how much love they're expressing for America. And this was Jake Tapper talking to this German guy. And I just love his answer. Play stop 50.
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J
Yeah, I mean, I know Freddie. He's a nice guy. He's from. He's from like, close to me. So I've been talking to him. He's loving it. He's more touring the South. I did Chicago, and I think it's more like. Because in Europe we have a lot of rather negative news about the Americans in the last five years, let's say that. And I think we are all enjoying, like, the fact that this country is so great to visit. The people are amazing, so welcoming. The culture is amazing. It's like Europeans are getting a new view of America right now, I think, through. Also through our content. And that's. That's cool, I think.
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B
Yeah. Look at that.
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H
He.
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B
But interestingly enough, he blames the European media.
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D
They're bad. It's under. I don't think Americans realize how aggressively propagandistic a lot of media is in Germany, in France, they're much more. All on the same side of every issue. And really lecturing you.
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B
Oh, gosh, the lecturing, the European lecturing. I just can't. Anyways, I actually looked this up yesterday because I saw Elon Musk is actually gonna be suing zdf, which is one of the top two largest broadcasters news networks in Germany. And he said about some of the migrant crisis stuff that you have to protest loudly and repeatedly if something's gonna change. The ZDF took that and translated it to, you have to hunt down migrants in the streets. And they are refusing to retract that. Sage. I mean, you are a journalist. Yes. A sports journalist. You were at ESPN what, 16, 17 years. If you said something that crazy, off point and that big of a lie, really, you would be forced to retract even at espn. Am I right?
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F
Yeah. Yes, of course. I think when I was there, yes, certainly times have changed in the last two and a half years, but absolutely. The problem is leadership. And if you're leadership at these networks, I mean, they're the ones that are dictating it and how you should cover a story and how you should report. And so there might even be people who are being forced to translate it knowing that it's wrong, but this is what their boss tells them and they have to keep the job. I mean, we know all about that and those kind of mandates. Right. But I. But to your Point, Blake. Especially in Germany and in France. And I mean, there's a reason why they mock us, a reason why they loathe us and think that we are so beneath them. It's because of how it is being reported. It is actually no different from the mainstream media here. But I don't think any of us, including those of us in it, fully realize those of us who are sane and kind of in the middle or center right, who've been in the media world. I don't think any of us realized just how dark and dirty it was. Now, thanks to Elon, thanks to X. And then, you know, this space, the streaming podcast world, people are realizing just how dark it was and in some ways still is just Jake Tapper alone, right where, you know, that was, it was painful for him to sit there and watch this like, pleasant, kind guy from Germany saying, wow, this place is not bad. I mean, this is the same guy that a year ago was trying to sell his book. And that's therefore the only reason why he was coming clean, saying that he wasn't honest basically, as a journalist at CNN with his social media in any way. And he's just one of many stars of all of these networks. So it is incumbent upon us, with all of our God given platforms at this point to just speak the truth. And I do believe that that means even when it is uncomfortable, something that we don't want to report, we have to report the facts and the truth. That's how I was trained. 35, I'm aging myself years ago when I was in college, like it doesn't, your opinion actually doesn't matter when you're a journalist hosting those news shows. It's not about your opinion. It's about the fact. We give the viewers, I mean the sports audience, whatever it is, the facts, and then allow them to form their opinion. But that's not what's been allowed to happen in our country or in Europe. And I think we're seeing it well.
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B
And I will tell you, right, and I know you're center right, I know you're. I'm centered, I'm pretty right wing. I'm right wing. No, I'm just saying try to think
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F
clearly about all the issues and then you know where I end up.
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B
I'm just giving you plausible deniability for the next thing I'm about to say, which is, I will tell you, Europeans, they marvel at our conservative movement and the fact that we have this robust movement that can push back and fight back and go toe to toe with These guys. Cuz they don't have that in Europe at all. And so that's just one observation. I have to get to this story really quick. Sage, I did not warn you about this, so you can take it as you will, but there was a couple, like, I think a week ago there was a story of this burning KKK white supremacy cross in Chicago. And I instantly tweeted out, I said this is either a hoax or the SBLC funded it. And it's still a hoax. Okay? We found the guy who set it on fire, and Here he is, 49.
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D
I don't want to wait until he may or may not get impeached.
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B
I want him gone right now.
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C
On that video, are you threatening him?
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D
No.
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B
You say that you think this should
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C
be brought to an end.
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B
Lou says he built this cross after
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C
carrying wooden slats from his near west side apartment to Grant park last Tuesday afternoon. He showed the red ball cap that he put on the top beam and used lighter fluid and toilet paper to get it all going.
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B
I put a red hat to signify the mag. The MAGA hat.
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D
The Make America Great Again hat.
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E
So that.
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C
That was.
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B
Yeah, that's what I tied on top.
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C
Lou says he was protesting what he calls maga. Christian nationalist supporters and the Trump administration ruling class.
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D
He's just scamming people.
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B
So it's not a white supremacist. It was a gay Asian man named Trump. Merlin.
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D
Louis Merlin.
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B
Lou Merlin. Lou, That's a name. Your reaction, Sage, if you want to weigh in.
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F
I hadn't heard. Yeah, always. You know, I'm no longer afraid.
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B
Now 30 seconds.
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F
Canceled like dozens of times. You just don't care. You just talk. I hadn't seen that story. That makes me sad. Remember a couple years ago, all these Stop Asian hate signs, like you just. You just can't keep up with all of the things that are out there. And what was his name? Jesse Smollett in Chicago. I mean, apparently this is a breeding ground for people like that who want to create fake narratives to, I don't know, spread their mission. It makes me so sad. But we gotta remember this. We have to remember that this is what the left has done so brilliantly is indoctrinate these young people. We have to continue to educate about the facts.
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B
I knew it was a hoax, Sage. I saw it and I was like, no way. This is MAGA country. You know, Sage Steele, host of the Sage Steel Show. That was so much fun. Thank you, Sage, for joining us.
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F
Thank you guys.
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D
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