Mandate Madness—A Special Frontlines Episode

Summary

The Charlie Kirk Show — “Mandate Madness—A Special Frontlines Episode”
Date: August 12, 2021
Host: Andrew Colvett (filling in for Charlie Kirk)

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Episode Overview

This special “Frontlines” episode focuses on personal stories and grassroots activism against COVID-19 mandates, specifically mask and vaccine mandates affecting schools and workplaces. Producer Andrew Colvett fills in for Charlie Kirk and interviews activists and a healthcare worker to highlight the pushback against what they describe as government and corporate overreach. The tone is urgent and unapologetically conservative, stressing themes of personal liberty, parental rights, and collective grassroots action.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Washington State School Mandate Resistance

Guests: Sherry and Emma Bartles (Mother-daughter activists from Eastern Washington)

Background & Motivation

• Sherry Bartles pulled her kids from the local district over the COVID response and distancing from critical race theory (CRT), mask mandates, and sex education.
  “We live in a very small town…our town is about 280 people.” — Sherry Bartles [03:48]
• Frustration arose when local school boards said their hands were tied by Governor Jay Inslee’s emergency powers and the threat of lost funding and certifications. “They have their hands tied by Jay Inslee's Emergency Orders act, so they can't do anything.” — Sherry Bartles [05:52]

Organizing for Change

• Multiple small town advocacy groups merged to gain critical mass, emphasizing the power of numbers. “Alone we can't really do anything. But there is power in numbers.” — Sherry Bartles [06:28]
• A community rally was organized (August 12, 2021) with anticipated attendance of up to 500 people. “…we're just really trying to connect people to realize, you know, you're not alone...” — Emma Bartles [10:03]

Goals & Broader Movement

• The movement is about more than masks, aiming to reclaim local control over schools (dubbed the “six-headed monster”: masks, vaccines, CRT, sex ed, emergency powers, federal funding). “It's about taking our schools back. And it's called the Take Back Our Schools rally... not just about masks.” — Sherry Bartles [12:00]

Notable Quotes

• “I believe that we are like minded with our board. I think we are like minded with our very new superintendent. However, they have their hands tied…” — Sherry Bartles [05:43]
• “He [our ag teacher] has just really been an awesome leader… I'm going to stand up for what is right. I'm not just going to be another one that gets pushed over.” — Emma Bartles [10:34]

Getting Involved

• The rally was at Liberty High School, Spangle, WA, 6:30pm, with state legislators in attendance. “Liberty High School, 6:30pm on the football field... It's going to be a big start to a big movement.” — Emma Bartles [14:36]

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2. Healthcare Worker Perspective: COVID Mandates in the Workplace

Guest: Anonymous Nurse (Phoenix, AZ/Banner Healthcare)

Personal Story

• The nurse shared her experience being monitored and “threatened” by her employer for discussing anti-mandate views on private social media. “I got an email a couple of days ago from a manager basically threatening me to stay quiet.” — Anonymous Nurse [18:42]

Views on Mandates

• Clarified stance as anti-mandate, not anti-vaccine, and critical of the lack of choice. “I am…by no means anti vax... I'm just anti mandates. I think that everybody should be able to do their own research and make their own decisions for their own body.” — Anonymous Nurse [20:28]
• Reported feeling of being bullied, isolated, and unable to speak freely at work. “I've had people say that I should lose my job. I've had someone tell me from the bottom of my heart, you're a piece of blank and I hope you lose your job.” — Anonymous Nurse [21:28]

Prevalence of Dissent

• Estimates that over half of nurses on her unit are against the mandates, and mass non-compliance could disrupt hospital operations. “There's well over half of the nurses that I work with are on the same page as me, and these include nurses that have been nurses for decades.” — Anonymous Nurse [22:19]

Employer Response

• Employer sent ambiguous, “ominous” messages mentioning violations without specificity. “…they said that I hope you can keep in mind that what you're saying reflects you. Not only you, but your unit and your team and Banner as a whole.” — Anonymous Nurse [23:32]

Call to Action

• Encouraged healthcare workers to get organized and speak out, emphasizing strength in numbers. “Get organized. I cannot stress this enough…once I did, I've been overwhelmed by the amount of support that I've gotten from other nurses.” — Anonymous Nurse [30:13]

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3. Fact Checks and Data Discussion

• Colvett cites data to question the benefit-risk of mandates for children:
  • Risk of COVID hospitalization in kids 5-17: 0.3 per million
  • Risk of hospitalization due to vaccine-induced myocarditis: 50 per million “So when Joy Reid says that...Abbott are killing kids, it’s simply not true. But compare 0.3 per 1 million to the risk...50 per million for the same demographic.” — Andrew Colvett [30:54]
• References to studies showing breakthrough infections and waning effectiveness of vaccines, especially Pfizer.
  • “...Pfizer vax dropped to 42% effective in July.” — [approximately 31:30]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Masks are kind of what is getting people fired up right now... But it’s bigger than that… It's about taking our schools back.” — Sherry Bartles [12:00]
• “At some point, if nobody stands up, everybody’s going to get pushed over…” — Emma Bartles [10:53]
• “It’s really, really scary what’s going on in the hospitals right now.” — Anonymous Nurse [21:46]
• “You think you’re alone...Promise you, you are not alone. Find other people. Speak out. Because if enough of us speak up, they can’t run hospitals without nurses.” — Anonymous Nurse [30:13]

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Key Timestamps

• [03:47] Sherry and Emma Bartles discuss local organizing in WA school districts.
• [07:05] Impact of state mandates on local school board autonomy.
• [10:03] Emma Bartles on the need for regional coordination among parents and families.
• [12:00] The mission of the Washington Community Coalition for School Change.
• [14:36] Event and rally information—how to get involved.
• [18:42] Anonymous Phoenix nurse shares her experience with employer pushback.
• [20:28] Perspective on being anti-mandate, not anti-vaccine.
• [22:19] Level of nurse dissent against mandates.
• [23:32] Description of employer intimidation tactics.
• [30:13] Advice for healthcare workers: get organized and unite.
• [30:54] Data discussion on vaccine risk versus COVID risk for kids.

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Summary

This episode amplifies grassroots voices challenging mask and vaccine mandates, both in rural Washington schools and in a major Arizona healthcare provider. It spotlights the frustration of local parent-activists feeling powerless against state directives, describes efforts to consolidate small groups into a louder movement, and gives an inside view of the pressure healthcare workers feel to conform. The overriding message: organize, find solidarity, speak out, and keep fighting government and corporate overreach with a “frontlines” mentality.

The tone is fervent, attributing noble intent and courage to those resisting mandates and portraying their stand as both unpopular and critically necessary for safeguarding freedom and traditional values.

Transcript

[Andrew Colvett]

All right, everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. This is producer Andrew. Andrew Colvett filling in for Charlie as he's away at the Claremont Institute doing the Lincoln Fellowship. We're proud of him. He's going to be learning lots of new things, bringing it back to the show. In the meantime, we have Mandate Mania, and we're talking to people on the front lines that are experiencing this struggle up close and personal. Like so many of you who email us all the time, we're talking to them, getting their stories and, and finding out what it's like to be them. One is organizing a rally tonight. So if you're listening to this on August 12th, it's tonight. Be there. Join her in Eastern Washington. She's got the details right here. Fighting back against the tyrant Jay Inslee, the governor of Washington, and all the mandates and all the school craziness that's coming out of Olympia. The other is a nurse in Phoenix that is anti vax mandate, anti mask mandates, and she is getting bullied and coerced behind the scenes from her employer warning her and demanding that she shut up or else. You're not going to want to miss this Front Lines episode. They call it the Mandate Mania. This collective psychosis we're all living through. This is a grassroots episode if ever there was one. Don't go anywhere. Buckle up. Here we go.

[Charlie Kirk]

Charlie. What you've done is incredible here.

[Sherry Bartles]

Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

[Andrew Colvett]

I want you to know we are

[Charlie Kirk]

lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

[Andrew Colvett]

I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point usa.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Andrew Colvett]

we should be on with Emma Bartles and Sherry Bartles.

[Emma Bartles]

We are.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well, hello, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Just want to say, Sherry, you are an inspiration to parents all across the country because you are getting involved with your child in a very hand, let's just say hands on way you are helping which Emma, Emma, by the way, I've been talking to Emma and texting with Emma. You know, I have two young children. I want my kids to grow up and be like your daughter, frankly. Really inspiring stuff. Why don't you tell our audience what you guys are doing in Washington state to stand up against some of these, this crazy crt, this mask mandates, et cetera that's happening with our schools.

[Emma Bartles]

Okay.

[Sherry Bartles]

Well, I actually pulled my kids out of the local school district we had homeschooled for years and I put them in a couple years ago and then when everything with COVID went down, I pulled them back out. We live in a very small town of extremely rural area of eastern Washington. We are surrounded by a lot of B schools. So we have a lot of towns around us. Our town is about 280 people. We serve three areas in our combined School of Liberty school district and we serve about 400 kids, maybe 450 kids, K through 12. So extremely small school districts. And we're one of the larger ones in this rural area. And you know, everybody was doing what we're doing nationwide, going to school boards and asking our school boards to stand up for us, asking why they don't just say no. We got the same answer and it was frustrating for parents. They kept saying we can't, our hands are tied. They'll pull our federal funding, they'll pull our certification. We can't do anything. So we went to a couple of those and we weren't getting anywhere with the board of directors. Ironically, I believe that the board of directors, they've said this out loud personally on a personal level. I Think across this area of the state, they all agree with us that the masks are ridiculous, that CRT is over the top, that the sex ed training, all of it. So I believe that we are like minded with our board. I think we are like minded with our very new superintendent. However, they have their hands tied by Jay Inslee's Emergency Orders act, so they can't do anything. And so that was really frustrating to us. And we started just visiting on what we can do. What we can do. Well, when you have 50 people show up to a board meeting, there's not a lot you're not going to make a dent. So we started contacting other people. I have a cousin down in Colfax and she was in on a group and there was about 100 down there, which is a little south of us. And they have about 1800 people in the town. So a little bit of a bigger town. They had about 100 people at their board meeting. So then we got to thinking, what if we merged our groups? Keep in mind, this is all within the last 10 days. 10 days we've done this. And so then we started contacting people from Garpal, which has I think maybe 14 kids graduating. La Crosse Washington, which has four kids graduating with a town of 300. We have Reardon, Washington, which maybe has 25, 30 kids graduating. So really small towns. And we decided to bring our groups together and see if we could make a dent. Because the one thing that we do know is that alone we can't really do anything. But there is power in numbers.

[Andrew Colvett]

I just want to clarify one point here. You're basically saying that you're not able to really fight back at the school board level because it's going to Jay Inslee in Olympia. The governor is basically holding over funds for your local school districts, even if your local school boards agree with you. So you, you're basically trying to figure out how do we crack the code, then how do we. How do we break through this impasse? Because they're holding funding over our school districts heads.

[Sherry Bartles]

They're not just holding funding over our school districts. They are directly. In a letter, Reichdahl, who is the OSPI superintendent, the health department, they have said we will. If you do not force the mask mandate, if you do not comply with all of our rules set up in the COVID response or Covid reopening or whatever you want to call it, we will not only withhold funding, we could potentially shut you down. We will hit you with L and I find we will take away Certification from teachers and superintendents, our school board and our superintendents and our administration has been instructed not to come tonight, that they could lose their certification, they could lose funding. And I, when I asked why that was, they were instructed by the esd, who it is my summation and I have nothing to back this up on that probably Chris Reichdahl contacted the ESD and then ESD contacted our superintendent, instructed him of that. So they're not coming. They sent out an email this morning that said we're aware of the, of the rally forum tonight at the football field. This is.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah.

[Sherry Bartles]

In no way associated with the school district. This is not a school sponsored. They are absolutely trying to remove themselves from any. Anything about it. It's frustrating. I know, I know these people on a personal level, they're good people. They think like us and they are not able to stand up for what they believe in. Free speeches. They have kids in these schools and they're not able to attend.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah, well. And so what I just want to kind of break this down for our audience a little bit. What we're seeing here, what you're explaining to us is we're seeing this play out on the national level in states like Florida, in states like Texas where you do have Republicans in power at the state level. And they are basically seeing local municipalities fight back against statewide, you know, anti mask mandates, statewide, anti vax passport mandates. So you have local municipalities like Austin and Houston, San Antonio and Dallas or West Palm beach or Broward county in Florida pushing back against the governors that are basically saying, you know, we want freedom of choice for our students and their parents, that they get to make their own decisions. So you sort of have the inverse of that where you guys are saying, at a local level, we are pushing back against these tyrannical mandates from Olympia and Jay Inslee. And you're not able to really, you don't have a big enough voice yet and you're not getting front page coverage on the news. So you guys are organizing a rally tonight. And Emma, you have a big hand to play in that, am I right? I mean, you have been involved actually with Turning Point USA before in the past. Tell us what you're doing on the grassroots with young people, getting families involved. I mean, you're expecting what, a couple hundred people, maybe up to 500 people tonight.

[Emma Bartles]

Yeah, we are. So we're just really trying to connect people to realize, you know, you're not alone, you know, lacrosse, four kids graduating.

[Sherry Bartles]

They.

[Emma Bartles]

I feel like just connecting all these little towns because one town by itself isn't enough to get any sort of attention to make a change. But when we come together in basically all of eastern Washington, when we connect these people in this Facebook group, you just kind of realize, wow, you're not alone. And this isn't working for anybody on this side of the state, probably not even the other side of the state. And so we're just trying to connect people. I've been in contact with, you know, you know, my Prager Force members part of that through PragerU just trying to really get people together to see, you know, this isn't working. We have an ag teacher at our school and he has just really been an awesome leader in this and he's been really brave. He is a teacher. He has kids that go to this school. He's a big part of the community and he's been the one saying, no, enough is enough. They can take my teaching certificate because I'm going to stand up for what is right. I'm not just going to be another one that gets pushed over. Because at some point if nobody stands up, everybody's going to get pushed over and it's going to be, you know, really bad. So somebody at some point needs to stand up. And he's been really wanting to do that.

[Andrew Colvett]

Good for him. I do want to give you guys an opportunity. I want, I want this event for you tonight to be huge. All right. Turning Point usa I know is getting behind this. I know you mentioned our friends over at Prager Force tell everybody listening how they can get involved in this event.

[Emma Bartles]

Ladies, so you can look up on Facebook we have the Washington Community Coalition for School Change is the Facebook group title. And also it is going to be at 6:30 tonight, Liberty High School football field in Spangle. We are having three state legislators come or expecting lots of people, lots of support behind this. So we're super excited for people to get involved and you know, help us out with this cause.

[Andrew Colvett]

All right, Sherry.

[Sherry Bartles]

Yeah. Our focus, we named it the Washington Community Coalition for School Change because we wanted it to go beyond just masks. Masks are kind of what is getting people fired up right now is sort of woke people up because it's something that they can visually see. It's a daily reminder of how much control they have over our kids. But it's bigger than that. And so we didn't want it to be just about mask. It's about taking our schools back. And it's called the Take Back Our Schools rally. A rally, yes. But it's also a community forum. So that we have people there that are representing us. Mary Dye, Joe Schmidt, Mark Schessler and the businessman Gary Peters that has an interesting story on how he stood up by himself and made a really big change in the Lewiston airport. And so we're trying to get people to be educated and rallied at the same time so that you're not alone, that you can learn something. Where do we go from here? So we named it this Coalition for Change because we needed to get our groups together and then tackle the six headed monster. So we have the masks, we have the vaccinations that are gonna be coming up. We have the crt, we have the sex ed, we have Inslee's emergency powers

[Anonymous Nurse]

that we need to probably do something.

[Sherry Bartles]

There's always gonna be something more. And anytime we hand over. That's right, which I think we started to do in the 70s and it's gotten worse and worse and worse. So to the point we didn't even notice, we just did it. So sl we handed over our kids to the state and federal government. We handed over our school districts, our board of directors hands are tied. Our superintendents, our hands are tied by funding and politics. And that's not what they were designed to be. And I don't even think that most people know that. I think that we get really mad at our boards but we don't realize how bound they are by all of this. We couldn't even turn the lights on if we didn't have federal funding out here. And so they can, you know, sort of hold that over our heads all the way. And so that's our goal. It's a little bit tricky tonight. We're a little bit nervous. This is a big deal. None of us that are organizing this have ever done anything political. And we are really sticking our necks out there, so.

[Andrew Colvett]

Right you are. Well, and Sherry, once again, tell everybody where you're meeting tonight. If you were listening in the Spokane area or if you're listening in the Seattle area. Emma, Sherry, how do people get involved? I want to make sure people get the message. Show up to this event, show your support. This is part of a grassroots swelling of energy to fight back against the tyrants that are trying to tell us how to raise our children. So Sherry, Emma, how do people get there? How do they get involved? One more time.

[Emma Bartles]

Liberty High School, 6:30pm on the football field. Liberty High School is in Spangle. So if you just look up Liberty Spangle, you'll be able to find that 6:30pm it's going to be A really big deal where you have lots of people. It's going to be, it's going to be a big start to a big

[Sherry Bartles]

movement and we hope that everybody comes peacefully with, you know, peace in their hearts, they're willing to learn and that they we show our kids how to behave in these tentious situations and that we know that our enemies are watching, we know that people want us to screw up. So we hope that everybody comes patriotic peacefully and comes to learn something and then digs in to really attack the six headed monster one head at a time.

[Andrew Colvett]

Well said. Well said Sheri. Well said. Emma. These you guys are frontline heroes. You are doing the real work and you are part of a story that we've been telling on this show for the last couple months and we are just so grateful that you are rising up, you are standing up for your rights, for traditional values for parents, rights for health, freedom for privacy. These are all such important values that we are all defending together. And you guys are on the front, front line. So guys, if you are in Spokane or Seattle, please support Emma and Sherry. Get out. Make your voices heard.

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[Andrew Colvett]

I was really honored by the fact that Emma and Sherry came on our show from the state of Washington. We're going to keep this party rolling with real life frontline activists that are standing up against mandates that are confronting this tyrannical overreach both at the state level, at the local municipality, at the school board level, but also at the corporate level. A lot of, a lot of folks, a lot of you listening out there are confronting mandates in your place of work. This just came in as a matter of fact this 19 minutes ago. This is from Politico. HHS mandates COVID 19 vaccinations for healthcare workforce so now the HHS, the Health and Human Services is mandating COVID 19 vaccinations for its healthcare workforce. That's 25,000 officials, which is pretty sprawling organization. And so this is happening all over the place. That's obviously a government agency. But whether you are working in hospitals, whether you're working as a frontline worker, first responder, whatever it might be, these mandates are coming. So I wanted to get the story from a nurse in the Phoenix area that is confronting sort of her own type of, let's just call it, overreach in a really disturbing way from a large healthcare provider. And you know, out of respect for this person, we're going to keep her identity anonymous. But we can say that she's a nurse, she's in Phoenix and she works with Banner Healthcare. So without further ado. Ms. Nurse, are you there?

[Anonymous Nurse]

Can you hear me?

[Andrew Colvett]

Yes, I can.

[Sherry Bartles]

Awesome.

[Anonymous Nurse]

Hi. Thanks for having me.

[Andrew Colvett]

Yeah. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. I want to, I want to hear about your experience. So you have, you are active in the Phoenix area, you are a nurse. This is what you do for your living. And I want you to tell about a really scary story, frankly, about you getting approached by your health care, by your company that you work for, your employer about stuff that you were doing on social media. So we'll start there, give us the background and we'll, we'll, we'll dig into this even more.

[Anonymous Nurse]

Yeah, so this actually just happened a couple of days ago. I've been really active on my private, mind you, private social media accounts about just my opinions about all of this. And granted, I've never said anything bad about my employer on any of my social media accounts. But I got an email a couple of days ago from a manager that I have basically threatening me to stay quiet. They sent me our social media policy saying of course you can't release any personal healthcare information or anything like that, which I haven't, but I'm assuming that they are. Some, someone's got to be watching all of my stuff and just doesn't like that I am a healthcare worker that's taking this stance and they're basically threatening me to stay quiet. And that was really, really scary and part of the reason why I wanted to stay anonymous because I could probably get in huge trouble for doing this. But you know, my personal beliefs and value system means 10 times more to me than a job. And that's why I'm taking this hard stance on this subject.

[Andrew Colvett]

Okay, so you would describe yourself not as anti vax. It sounds like you're a nurse, you're a medical professional, you understand the value of vaccinations or at least certain vaccinations, but you are anti mandate, you are anti, probably COVID 19 mandate and I'm not sure where you are on the mask issue but, but tell us about your experience as a, as a nurse, as somebody that's working in the healthcare industry. What have you seen? Why do you believe the things that you do believe and what have you said on social that is causing Banner to privately message you and tell you to keep quiet?

[Anonymous Nurse]

So basically that I just don't agree with mandated vaccines. I am, like you said, I am by no means anti vax. I have all of my other vaccinations. I'm just anti mandates. I think that everybody should be able to do their own research and make their own decisions for their own body. You know, my body, my choice is only effective if it fits a certain narrative. And I just, that's the part that I don't agree with and I think that's why they're kind of coming after me because I'm speaking up, I'm not being quiet about it. And I just, it's, I've seen so much hate in the healthcare world so far. I've had people say that I should lose my job. I've had someone tell me from the bottom of my heart, you're a piece of blank and I hope you lose your job. It's just, it's been ridiculous. I've had providers that I work with basically not, not really threaten patients, but just try to guilt trip them into getting the vaccine in situations that are not appropriate whatsoever. Yeah, it is. And since I, I haven't been a nurse for very long, so people sometimes I feel, don't take me very seriously, but I feel like I can't speak up half the time about it. But it's, it's really, really scary what's going on in the hospitals right now.

[Andrew Colvett]

How many of your fellow nurses and doctors for that matter have voiced similar opinions? Or do you feel, do you feel like you're one of the few, I mean you are in Maricopa county, which is, you know, until this last election hadn't gone Democrat since 1948. Tell us, what's your sense of the health care workers themselves? Is everybody feel like they're bullied into staying quiet about their true opinions or do you think that everybody's pretty much on board with the vaccine, vaccine and the mandates?

[Anonymous Nurse]

So I can't speak for other hospitals, but I know that my particular unit that I work in, they would, if they say they didn't accept any of our religious or medical exemption forms, they would probably have to shut down our unit because there's well over half of the nurses that I work with are on the same page as me, and these include nurses that have been nurses for decades. So it's, it's not just me, but again, that's just my experience with the people that I work with. I can't really speak for other hospitals, but it's. I know that there have been hospitals in other places, not sure about Banner, but places that have had to shut down floors because nurses are actually taking a stand against this.

[Andrew Colvett]

So what is Banner now telling you privately? So they're sending you emails. Who is. Who what, what's this person's role? We don't have to use names. Well, what's this person's role and what are they actually saying to you? They saying that we're going to fire you? I've seen a few of the email screen grabs, but are they saying, explain to our audience what they're actually saying? It's kind of ominous the way that they're doing it. They're saying, you know, basically shut up. But, but tell us what, what they, what they're saying to you so far.

[Anonymous Nurse]

Yeah, it's very ominous. Very, very borderline threatening. They have basically, like I said, they sent me the social media policy in which I read thoroughly. I made. I didn't go against any of their policies whatsoever. They basically just said that I hope you can keep in mind that what you're saying reflects you. Not only you, but your unit and your team and Banner as a whole. And they, I asked, I inquired multiple times if they could give me some specifics on what exactly I have posted or shared. That is not okay in their opinion. And they were not able to tell me anything, which just further makes me believe that in general they just don't like that I am sharing different articles about side effects and just about freedom of speech. And I can't exactly say who is sending me these, but it is one of the managers that I have. Nurses have multiple managers sometimes and I have personally never even met this woman before. But yeah, she's. We went back and forth a couple of times and again, she never said anything specific about anything that I've posted. Basically just to watch what you say.

[Andrew Colvett]

In essence, folks, for those of you listening, I'm assuming that this is a fairly common experience on some level. Now, I don't know that everybody's going to be getting these emails like you are a. It's super creepy to get an email like that for something that you're doing on your own. Social media sounds like one of the theories that you have is that you had, you had attended event with Charlie at it, and that's actually how they kind of became aware of some of your activity. Whether that's the case or not, we don't know. But I'm going to, I'm going to read you some, some stats here. And you're a nurse. Tell me if this is some of the same kind of information that you guys are hearing and seeing on the front line. The risk of hospitalization for Covid in kids 5 to 17 is 0.3 per million. That's hospitalization. 0.3 kids per million. The risk of hospitalization due to myocarditis from the vaccine is 50 per million for the same demographic. Now, again, I am not anti vax. I don't think you are anti vax. We are. I am vaccinated with multiple things. My kids are. We're simply saying that to mandate this is starting to edge on this level of insanity. That is hard to justify, frankly. It's hard to come to grips with just as a, as a matter of public policy. I want to play a clip here. This is cut 64 from Joy Reid and she's saying, what's the strategy behind killing children in your own state and letting children die of COVID So let's hear from the wonder Woman herself, Joy Reid, and then I'm gonna get your reaction on the other side of this.

[Sherry Bartles]

What is the strategy behind killing children in your own state and letting children die of COVID I can't figure it out.

[Andrew Colvett]

I think the strategy, as macabre as this sounds, is project strength at all

[Charlie Kirk]

costs, own the libs at all costs. They're not concerned about the well being

[Andrew Colvett]

of their own citizens.

[Anonymous Nurse]

It's.

[Andrew Colvett]

How can I project that I'm against

[Charlie Kirk]

Joy Reid, that I'm against Dr. Fauci, that I'm against the elites, I'm against the people on the coast and the brown folks and the black folks.

[Andrew Colvett]

Right?

[Charlie Kirk]

Like that's it. That's all this is about.

[Andrew Colvett]

I mean, what a racist thing to say, first of all, and it's just insane. But we're seeing this and especially play out in places like Arizona. There's, you know, we have been very honest on the show about some of our pushback against Doug Ducey. He did come out against mass mandates on ASU's campus, but now ASU is going to defy him and we're going to see if he's going to stand up. Okay. But some of these states with Desantis and Texas With Abbott are straight up threatening local municipalities and companies that try and defy the statewide orders. He's absolutely getting steamrolled though in Arizona. And this is why real people like you are on the front lines to facing your employers. And it feels like you're alone. You're getting bullied.

[Charlie Kirk]

Can I make a suggestion? The way things are going, wouldn't it be good to have a stockpile of emergency food for a prolonged food shortage? Look, chaos is coming. I wish it wasn't. We're in a cycle of decline. I wish we can. I hope we can reinvigorate it. But what if things fall apart? What if our grid is hacked? What if there is an event we didn't expect well over the last year, we should all be expecting the unexpected. The Red Cross and FEMA now recommend having at least three months worth of emergency food per person. You know, I got in this interesting dialogue with a reporter. I told the reporter, you know, I'm a prepper. She said, oh, you're a crazy prepper. I said, I'm not crazy. I'm rational. And guess what? You'll be coming knocking on my door for food when our grid gets hacked or when all the power goes out or where there's chaos. And guess what? I might not give it to you. I'm kidding. Maybe I will. The point is that I am proud to prepare for things that are going to happen to because we have seen where things go. And guess what? The human condition is one of decay. I wish it wasn't. I wish better times were ahead and utopia and all this sort of stuff. But if we're honest with ourselves, honest, we need to protect the people we love. And that includes being prepared. That doesn't mean you have to be paranoid, but be prepared. Now, you can order the four week food kit and 25% off the regular price. You get breakfast, lunch, dinner, drinks and snacks totaling over 2,000 calories a day. In other words, you'll be well fed while others are standing in food lines. To get your 25% discount on a four week food kit, go to preparewithkirk.com that's preparewithkirk.com right now. And your order will ship quickly and arrive discreetly at your door if you act now. So it's super simple. You buy it and you store it. And then when all of a sudden things start to fall in, you open up that cupboard and you know your family has food. You know that you can nourish yourself. Do you know that certain estimates say that after 48 hours. Total chaos will occur, and grocery stores will be pillaged and plundered. Preparewithkirk.com Protect your family. Prepare rationally. Preparewithkirk.com

[Andrew Colvett]

I want to ask your opinion. What should nurses like you do? You said that over half of the nurses in your group feel the same way that you do, but you guys are all being silenced, and you're not allowed to have these opinions. What should nurses do? What is your recommendation?

[Anonymous Nurse]

Get organized. I cannot stress this enough. Before I started speaking out, I thought that I was the only one that had these views. And once I did, I was. I've been overwhelmed by the amount of support that I've gotten from other nurses. So you think you're alone? You promise, promise, promise you. You are not alone. Find other people. Speak out. Because if enough of us speak up, they can't run hospitals without nurses. So speak up. Get organized. Create groups, and take a firm stand against this. Because if we don't do anything, then nothing's going to happen, and it's just going to keep going downhill.

[Andrew Colvett]

All right, it looks like I have now become disconnected from our nurse friend. We're going to keep going, guys. This is one brave nurse that's standing up. She's getting organized. Honored to have her join our show. You know, the most important thing is that we keep highlighting voices like this. We keep platforming these people that are on the front lines, that are struggling against these mandates, that are struggling against what to do when your employer tells you that you have to get the vaccine, even though you're young, even though you're healthy, even though you don't want to, even though you've made your own decision. We are going to keep doing exactly this, where we platform these voices and we keep giving them a place to explain their. Their decisions and why they have taken the position that is so unpopular, why they have committed a thought crime, why they have spoken out against what is basically tyranny. It's modern day tyranny, and you and I are all living through it. Now. I want to go through. I want to go through this one more time just because I think it's really, really important. So this is from our friends over at Unwoke Narrative. The risk of hospitalization from COVID in kids 5 to 17 is 0.3 per million.3 per million. So when Joy Reid says that we're. That Governor DeSantis and Governor Abbott are killing kids, it's simply not true. But compare 0.3 per 1 million to the risk of hospitalization due to myocarditis from the vaccine, which is 50 per million for the same demographic. For young and healthy children, the incentive to vaccinate is simply not there. And then you combine that with the fact that according to a study out of the UK and this is, I'm reading, listen, I'm reading from Forbes, fully vaccinated may transmit delta just as easily and new variants shows signs of vaccine evasion. Early UK research suggests. So let's compare that. You're at more risk of hospitalization if you're young, getting the vaccine from myocarditis than you are of just not being vaccinated and getting the disease in and of itself. You combine that with the fact that you still shed the virus even if you have been vaccinated. And then I'm going to, I'm going to put on one last thing here since we have a little bit more time because our friend dropped the call, wake up call after Mayo Clinic study shows Pfizer vax dropped to 42% effective in July. That's right. That's from Axios that we took the report from and we summarize it there@charlie kirk.com youm can check it out yourself. This means that only if you had the Pfizer vaccine in July, it was 42% effective. They are absolutely going to be rolling out booster shots. So if you think that you're just, you know, you got your two shots and you're done, it's not at all the case. They're going to be rolling out booster shots and those are going to be mandated too. And each new variant is going to be like flu season. You got to get your new flu shot every single year. Except it's not the flu vaccine. This is an MRNA experimental vaccine that hasn't even been approved by the fda. Although I'm sure there's plenty of pressure on the FDA to do so quickly. Thanks everybody so much for listening. Support these people. If you have a way to do so. Get behind the people that are risking it all by speaking out. Support them, come around them, form Facebook groups, form email listserv groups, whatever you got to do. Stand together. Start organizing, start building coalitions. Do it organically. Do it in the grassroots. Don't let them push you around or bully you around. And just like the nurse in Phoenix, Arizona, you speak your mind, you lay it all out there. And if you can, if you have the ability and mouths are not dependent upon you to get fed, stand up. Stand up and fight back. Don't let them silence you and we're so proud of those folks that joined our show for all that they're doing. Again, guys, if you get a lot out of the show, if you appreciate what we do here, consider being a supporter. Go to charliekirk.com support charliekirk.com support and consider getting involved with TurningPoint USA. Go to tpusa.com and you can either chip in there or find a way to get plugged in. Guys, we're so grateful for you who listen. We're going to have more episodes tomorrow, so continue enjoying. We'll be back. For more on many of these stories and news you can Trust, go to charliekirk.com.