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Thank you for listening to this Podcast 1 production now available on Apple Podcasts, Podcast 1, Spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody. Today on the Charlie Kirk show, we have an exclusive conversation with the mayor himself, Mayor Giuliani, who turned around New York. He talks police brutality, he talks the recent incident in Atlanta, Georgia, and so much more. Email me your questions. Freedom charliekirk.com Freedom charliekirk.com Check out our sister episode that has lots of good news to share with you about what's happening in America. That's right. Positivity, optimism, good news. You guys are gonna love this episode. And if you guys wanna get involved with Turning Point USA, go to tpusa.com right now. That's right, tpusa.com Buckle up, everybody. You're gonna love this interview. Here we go.
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Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are
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lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
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Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever create.
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We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives. And we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Hey, everybody. Welcome to this special episode of the Charlie Kirk Show. I am joined by Mr. Mayor Rudy Giuliani himself, the man who turned around New York, who has done such phenomenal things for our country. And I am honored to call him a friend. Mr. Mayor, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show, Charlie.
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It's a great pleasure to be on your show. I always, always enjoy it.
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So I have been repeating facts in the last couple weeks to the great outrage of the radical left and the passive right. And one of the facts that I've been repeating, Mr. Mayor, I want you to dive into is in the 90s, when you became mayor, the unnecessary and unwarranted bloodshed that was happening specifically in minority communities in New York City was unspeakable. You put forth a series of pro police reforms that according to the data that I have been provided that I've researched and gone into dramatically reduced violent crimes, specifically in minority communities. Mr. Mayor, you did this by empowering the police, working with community leaders, and because of it, tens of thousands of black Americans were able to live better, more peaceful lives. Can you talk about your time as mayor, the reforms you did, and what on earth is going on in this country when it comes to police.
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What I did, Charlie, is first of all, my background had been in law enforcement for 25 or 30 years, sort of from the ground up, with an Assistant U.S. attorney, Executive Assistant, eventually U.S. attorney, Associate Attorney General of the United States. So I knew law enforcement in New York intimately and then in America from the bottom up. And I had prosecuted personally almost every kind of case that now I was going to be involved in supervising. And I had a reputation as a very successful prosecutor. So I had the respect and the ability to bring together the FBI, the police department, the drug agency, all the agencies of government. And instead of having this fractious relationship, I was able to develop a very, very good communication. And I had a vision. The vision that I had came out of the report done for Ronald Reagan in 1981 or 82, the task force report on violent crime. And that report basically talked about how there were a lot of strategies you need to bring down this incredible amount of violent crime. But one of the core issues is policing. And you had to make policing accountable. Almost like a business. You have 100 salesmen. You got to know which one sells the products and which ones does it. And if you don't, you never improve your sales organization. You need to know which police officers are effective, not so much in arresting people, but in bringing down crime. So we came into a city that was in a crisis far beyond the criminality of any American city today, even Chicago. We had averaged over the last four years, almost 2,000 murders a year. That was a record. In fact, in two of those years, we set a record for murder. I should add that somewhere between 70 and 80% of the people murdered were black. And about 70 to 82% of the people who did the murders were black. And we had equivalent number of robberies, rapes, stolen vehicles, house break ins, you name it. And the city was deteriorating. We hadn't had a Fortune 500 company come to New York in 20 years. We had about 25 move out. Our unemployment was over 10%. We had 1.1 million people on welfare predicted to grow to 1.5 million. And we had homelessness that made San Francisco look small. And our homeless were some of them violent criminals who would attack people in the park and attack people in their automobiles. And I just mentioned a few of the problems. A completely deteriorated school system that nobody wanted to send their child to. So my job, the reason I got elected was because I was a Republican. Well, that's weird. The city's five to one Democrat, and I got elected on very much the same slogan Donald Trump got elected on, which is, you can't do any worse. Tell me how you can have more than 2400 murders a year and still exist. Tell me how you can have more than 1.1 million people not working and everybody else having to support them. So on and on and on. I. I got elected. I got elected with about as clear an agenda as anybody could ever get elected. They don't like Republicans. They didn't particularly like me. They liked what I did as a prosecutor. They weren't sure I wouldn't be too tough as a mayor, but they were in such bad shape, they couldn't walk the streets. Their children were being beaten up. And every three weeks they were going to a funeral for a friend that they said, let's take a chance on this guy. And I said, I. I'm going to get elected or reelected or make a mark in this city based on one thing. Do I reduce crime? I devoted 24 hours a day to studying it. I come up in a family of five uncles, so law enforcement was in my blood. I was a criminal defense lawyer as well as a very successful criminal prosecutor. And I knew the mafia in my city intimately from all the studies I had done of them and investigations. And I set out a plan, wrote it down on a piece of paper, set goals for when we would get it done. And I had a plan for violent crime, and we began to execute it. And I'll simplify it this way, it had three main pieces to it. One, it had a philosophy, the broken windows theory. We would pay attention to small things and surprise them so they wouldn't get the chance to hit the building with a couple of bricks. See that? Nobody paid attention to it, and then go in and rob the whole building. They wouldn't get a chance to put a little graffiti on a store. See that? Nobody paid attention to it. Put graffiti all over it and then go in and rob it. That's called establishing a lawful community or a lawless community. And then with regard to riots, we set down a rule, some broken windows rule. You get to protest. And given the policies I had in effect, I knew you were going to protest. I cut the city government by 20%. I cut the entitlement programs by 20%. I required people on welfare to work. For the first time in history, I knew there would be protests. I said, you can have as many protests as you want, but here's the rules. And don't. The first one who throws a rock gets arrested and goes to RIKERS Island. The second one that throws a piece of paper gets arrested. The third one that scratches the car gets arrested. The fourth one that walks beyond the line assigned for demonstrators gets arrested. And the one who burns the building gets arrested. You're probably not going to see the outside of a jail for 20 years because I'll personally go ask a judge to put you in jail for 20 years. So get the point. We are the best city in America for peaceful protest. We'll get some crazy ones and we'll protect you to the hilt, but we do not allow you to step over the line. Now, that was to combat a venting theory that my predecessor. This was some kind of a silly conception of a liberal mind that if you let them riot a little, they get it out of their system, then it's easier to control. Think Al Sharpton gave him this idea because Al Sharpton was one of his close advisors. Well, of course, he tried that in Washington Heights and it led to the entire burning of Washington Heights for three nights of massive lawlessness. He tried it in Crown Heights when black people were killing and attacking Jewish people for being Jewish, which we call a pogrom. He did that for three nights until Ray Kelly came in with the police and put it down in two hours. So my theory, which I wrote out, was. So they all understood it, let's have the rules straight. Protest as long as you want. Protest peacefully. First time you break a law, little or big, you get arrested. And I will have enough police there to take care of them. What I would also do is I'd have enough police to take care of the mob, but I would always have in reserve five, six, seven, eight blocks away the requisite number of additional police. Maybe 500, maybe a thousand. Maybe once I had 2,000 hidden. So the minute it started to break out into something where they started moving like you saw in New York, that would have gotten two blocks with me because when they got to that third block, there'd be 2,000 police officers standing there. Let me see you go beyond 2,000 police officers. We used helicopters. I didn't see them used. We used mounted police so you could look in the crowd and you could see in the crowd who's throwing the Molotov cocktail. And you could have them out of there in five minutes. Instead of having him throw 10 of them, you can see who's throwing the brick and who's instigating the crowd. When you're at eye level with them, you can't see that. So when I looked at the policing over the last couple of weeks I said, New York has lost all that it's learned under me, and Bloomberg and the rest of the country has never been trained to police a riot. There were things, fundamental things that could have been done. So, Charlie, from my way of thinking, absolutely none of this should have happened.
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Well, you know, Charlie, I usually begin with all political figures, but those I agree with and those I even dramatically disagree with, assuming they have good motives. I assume they have good motives, but they have an ignorant, historically disproven theory like socialism. Maybe they just haven't read history. Maybe they're not just well educated. Maybe the emotions have taken over lot logic, which has happened a lot now. All I see in politics now is raw emotion. I see very little intellect and very little opportunity to appeal to intellect. So I have two different answers, but this is purely Rudy Giuliani. Personally knowing these two men and the way you'd make a guess about people, you know, this is a guess. I believe that Cuomo is well motivated. I think he comes out of a traditional Democratic background, center left background, maybe even a little center on certain issues, left on others. His first couple of years as governor, he governed as a pretty moderate governor. Last couple of years, he's embraced some really radical things. I think Andrew is also a politician, and he's thinking about his place in the national Democratic Party. And I think it kind of suggests to me that Democrats have made the choice that moderate Democrats don't belong anymore, at least not in leadership positions. So he's gotten to be more left. But in comparison to de Blasio, he's like a savior. On 4 out of 5 totally idiotic de Blasio ideas, Cuomo saves us. And. And every once in a while he goes along because the pressure is too great. During the pandemic, the reason so many people died in New York, and I know the whole nursing home thing has to be looked at, and that could be Cuomo's fault and possibly de Blasio's, but I'm putting that one aside because I didn't know that one right away. Their lack of communication and coordination cost lies. And I know that because I ran emergencies in New York City, ran big ones, Some of them under more pressure than theirs. And every single one of them, I worked with the governor hand and glove. If you go back to the footage of 9 11, you will see that in half that footage, the man standing right next to me is a lot taller than me and his name is George Pataki. We had three staff meetings a day. We had our staffers in the meeting so that our staffers wouldn't undercut us because we said there was no room in this emergency for the usual bureaucratic, I hope I can say this word on podcast bullshit. And we made sure there wasn't any. And it meant that when we needed more reinforcements for the slurry wall that was holding the Hudson river out of the bombed out basement of the World Trade center, which, by the way, with any good storm, that whole part of Manhattan would have been flooded. The state produced that for us in one day. If we had done it the de Blasio Cuomo way, it would be a requisition form to the state. The state would then analyze how much does it need for the rest of the state, how much for New York. We probably would get it five days later. We'd get probably a third of it, and the slurry wall would have broken and it would have been useless by the time we got it. So the governor and I had been in office long enough and seen enough of that to know that happens. And we didn't even discuss whether we would run the governments together. It was almost assumed that we did. As soon as I got out of the building I was trapped in, the governor called me. He said, mayor, I was very worried about you. We thought we lost you. I said, well, thank God we have it. He said, we got to get together right away and put our governments together as we agreed. Maybe he was thinking I was trying to back out of it. Of course I wouldn't. And I said, governor, I think maybe we should go to the police academy. I'll walk there. You drive there, and as soon as we get there, this thing will be run together until further notice. And that's what we did. And if I can give you one main thing that we did that made 911 come out better than, let's say, Katrina, right? It's that the governor and I were at the same table along with the FEMA director who President Bush put there. And we never made a decision alone. Whereas in New Orleans, that happened a few years later. The Governor was in Baton Rouge and the Mayor was hiding on a boat in New Orleans, and the FEMA commission was trying to find his way to New Orleans. When I saw that, I said to my former Homeland Security director, the President's got a disaster here going on and they'll Blame it on him. Because even though this is essentially a local matter, a president can't look good when the mayor, the governor are bad because he doesn't have the resources. And in fact, the mayor has the primary resources. Cuomo can't look good if de Blasio doesn't know what he's doing. The mayor runs. Think about it. The police department, the fire department, the emergency services, the reconstruction department, all the human, all the human agencies that deal with human affairs, the hospital system. The mayor needs a lot of help from the governor like this. But if the governor is incompetent, the mayor can't. The governor. If the mayor is incompetent, the governor can't fill in. And I do think Cuomo did the best he could to fill in, but it ended up being a failure.
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Well, Mr. Mayor, that's well said. I mean, I have no love lost for Andrew Cuomo and his descent into radicalism. I would agree that he's traditionally from a more center left history politically, but de Blasio has always been a radical Marxist. And then he is allowing his, his out of control ideology to dictate the future of New York, not actually what is best for the city. And it's, it's tragic because you're going to see New York become crime infested again. You're going to see a massive exodus away from New York City and those that are stuck with out of control rents or property. It's just going to be a continue and endless cycle of destruction.
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What happens in New York gets copied all over the country. I can't escape thinking that that whole insanity in Seattle about an autonomous city comes about because they saw how they could push the police around in New York. And then earlier than that, they saw how they could push the police around in Minnesota. Those demonstrations of lawlessness on national television are extremely damaging, Charlie. They're extremely damaging. They show the American people who are inclined that way. You can get away with it. You can get away with it. I even wonder if this shooting that took place Friday night at the Wendy's, I wonder if that guy wasn't inclined to resist arrest because he saw so many other people resisting arrest and he thinks, oh, you can do that. Now, I'm sure you were taught like I was taught. And if a police officer arrests you, it may maybe, I hope, my God, my son, it's a mistake, but you treat him with great respect. Get it straightened out in the precinct. Let him arrest you, let him take you in. Don't answer him back. Wait till I come. Wait until a lawyer comes and then you can explain that you really weren't the person. Somebody who looked like you walked by before. Don't try to explain it yourself and don't get angry. He's just doing his job. Well, this guy blew off the handle the minute they put the handcuffs on him. And he started pounding them, punching them hard. He was bigger than them and stronger than them, and he got away from them and he took a Taser and then he shot the Taser back at them and they shot him. Now, people can argue whether a Taser is a deadly weapon or not, but this crime is committed in the course of committing five other crimes. And that Taser in his hand could be very dangerous. For example, if he hit the two police officers with the Taser and disabled them, he could have quickly run up and taken their guns. Now the guy would be running around with three guns, make them pretty popular in the hood. And a lot of damage can be done that night with those three, with those three, three guns. So police job is very hard to second guess. And the one thing you can say about the difference between the Floyd case and this case, this is very, very ambiguous circumstances where the perpetrator gives them a lot of reason to have, to have to use justifiable force, whereas Floyd didn't give them any reason to do so.
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Well, let's See how much they've lied about that, Charlie. Because the media is. The media should. If you could do it. There was no first Amendment. They should be put in jail. I mean, that statement is totally false, right? First, first of all, he did commit an offense. He was driving an automobile while intoxicated. He could have killed four children. I mean, driving an automobile while intoxicated is one of the crimes that I hate the most. I became a convert in 1981 at a Mothers Against Drunk Driving convention in Seattle, Washington. I went there as an Associate Attorney General to speak for Ronald Reagan. And I was sitting in the audience with my pal from the Justice Department and he saw me crying. And I was crying because the mothers are getting up and saying, my little Johnny was out. He just walked out in the driveway and bam, this car came off the side like you hit him. And the guy was dead drunk and ran away. And I said to myself, this is one of the things that responsible human beings can stop. We can stop killing people while drunk. There's a way to do it. Don't drive while you're drunk. If you're going to have a drink, stay there, order a cab, sweep it out. This guy was drunk. He was then obstructing the line to a Wendy's, not a big crime, but an annoyance number three. The police didn't go there looking for a black man to shoot as they love to try to present. The police went there because citizens call them to help them with a problem. Just like all the arrests for murders come about because blacks identify other blacks as the murderers. It's not racist, it's self selected. 70, 70% of the victims of murder in St. Louis or in Missouri, 79% black, I think St. Louis, 79% of the suspects are black. That means 79% of the times a black person calls in and identifies another black person as the murderer. White people don't self select blacks. So they're there because they're called there because there's a DWI and the guy's blocking people getting their Wendy's sandwiches. They come up, you can see it's very peaceful at first. Kind of an interesting discussion. The police officer must smell liquor and says he's got to take a test. He takes the test and he blows it. They then say, you're under arrest. As they are about to put the handcuffs on him and look at total surprise, he goes wild. He starts waving his arms. He hits one police officer with a flush with the right hand. He kicks another police officer and he grabs the taser gun and runs away with the taser gun. Police officer chases after him and he waves. He shoots the police officer a couple of times with the taser gun. Police officer attempts to shoot him, misses. All of a sudden he takes it out again and he shoots. And simultaneously, as he's moving back with that taser gun, police officer goes for his service revolver, pulls it out and shoots him.
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And the police officers, I believe, have been fired. And the police chief resigns. Which, that always made me uncomfortable because we don't even know all the facts. We haven't seen all the data and the camera surrounding it. And look, what's going to happen, Mr. Mayor, is now that inner cities that need policing more than ever. The police are gonna be disbanded. They're gonna say they're not welcome, and it's gonna be a bloodbath in our inner cities. It is.
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And Charlie, I run a security company made up of ex police officers and ex FBI agents. I haven't, haven't asked each one of them. I've asked five of them. Would you. And these are gung ho police officers. You know, like guys who loved it and guys who were in special units, and some of them were special forces, the military. You know what they say. I can't stop my son from doing anything he wants, but it'd be over my dead body. He said, at least we knew it was tough. We knew the brass would come after us, but we always ultimately believed there would be the lady of justice that would vindicate. Like Eddie Gallagher was eventually vindicated. Went through hell eventually vindicated. He said, we don't think that. We think they have hijacked Lady Liberty. It's all about get the police no matter what. He said, you're going to see a police officer take a little old lady across the street, and then they're going to claim he made sexual advances to her. I mean, it's sad. It's really sad. And we have to be there for them. I don't mean we have to be there for them when they do things wrong. Charlie, I prosecuted over 70 police officers and put them in prison for the same amount of time. I put some mafia people in. I have no slightest resistance in prosecuting a police officer. If you did something wrong, I have a lot of sadness about it, but I overcome my sadness. And the reality is these people are primarily some of the best people we have in our society. They have fewer bad people than most other professions. Unfortunately, when they're bad, people act bad. It has more dramatic consequences. But they're painting a picture of a group of men and women who are somehow renegades. And they are not. They're some of our best citizens. And there are citizens who have the courage to put their lives at risk for us. And we're going to walk out on them in place of what appears to be people who want to burn down buildings, steal liquor, beat up women and frame people. We gotta fight for them. We gotta reestablish the respect for police in America.
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Amen. Well, Mr. Mayor, in the couple minutes we have remaining, I know you're very tightly scheduled. Can you give us an update of what's going on with the Biden family businesses? You've been looking into this a lot. I know it's a little bit separate than what we've been talking about, but I get so many emails about this from our listeners. And you know this issue better than anyone else.
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Well, I will in a few weeks return to this issue in time for when people get serious about the election. First of all, to review the massive criminal evidence we already have and also to put forward some more criminal evidence that we've, we've acquired and some of which we had that now makes more sense. So the best way I can describe this is the overall not just Ukraine situation. From the day Joe Biden went into the Senate, his family made a decision. They're going to make money and they were going to organize little businesses and they were going to ask people to hire them for real estate, to hire them for lobbying, and they would get them special access to Joe. And they succeeded in doing that, and they succeeded in making a decent amount of money on that. I call that small town grifted. When his son got out of college, his son got a job at the biggest bank in Delaware. And all of a sudden, Joe changed his position on banking and became the biggest, biggest opponent of any kind of bankruptcy change. Because the bankruptcy change would hurt the banks. He was one of the sole Democrats that took that position. I think he used to be known as Mr. MBNA bank, whose son worked for them for eight years for well over 100,000. And when investigative reporters reported it, some of the people at NBA never seen him show up at work. So now again, small time grifter, before he became a United States Vice President, he had four or five more of these incidents with two of his brothers and they set up a lobbying firm. He got into a lot of trouble. They set up a private equity company using Joe's name to gather money. One of the partners went bankrupt and was caught In a Ponzi scheme. They had a bailout and somehow, somehow miraculously never got prosecuted for it again. Part of the small time Ponzi scheme. When he became vice president, they hit the big time. They weren't going to go for thousands, they're going to go for millions. First one was Iraq. In Iraq, there was a housing contract given out. All of a sudden, Joe Biden brother James shows up in the middle as a 1/3 owner of this. He knows nothing about housing and nothing about Iraq. But Joe was the point man for Iraq. So the family pulled in somewhere between a quarter of and half a billion for that one. Not a bad payday. When Joe becomes the point man for Ukraine, his son gets a job with the crookedest man in the Ukraine who's trying to save a $5 billion amount of money he stole from the Ukraine. And he enlists Joe Biden's support in protecting that money. In return for that, he promises Joe Biden's son a no show job. The amounts of money for that are on the record about 6 billion. They have now discovered laundered payments to take it up to about 9 or 10 billion. And they are in the process of finding even additional laundered payments. There were several notes that indicate that some of that money went directly to Joe Biden. That is straight out and out bribery. Mr. Zalczewski bribed Mr. Biden to use his office to influence President Poroshenko. The four main telephone calls indicating that are being suppressed by the Trump justice, by the Trump State Department, which is rather strange. I have informant information about what they contain and so does Tom Fitton. Tom did get us one conversation. What makes it pretty clear that Poroshenko and Biden were lying in order to get rid of the prosecutor and creating a corruption case on him so they could get rid of the prosecutor who wanted to prosecute Biden's son and Biden's criminal boss. That's about as clear as a bell now. And then Biden got the case dismissed. And there are suspicious offshore accounts that appear to be going to the Biden family thereafter. And because the US has not cooperated with Ukraine, they can't quite finish it out. So there's plenty in the Ukraine. Let's limit it to they made about 12 million by selling his influence in the Ukraine. Now comes China. He flies Little Joe down with him to, I mean, Joe flies Hunter Biden down with him to China on Air Force Two. Joe is supposed to negotiate with the Chinese over the Sakhalin Islands, I believe, and also tariffs. He spends 10 days there. You go back to contemporary newspapers and it says he was an utter failure. He got rolled by the Chinese government. Not unusual, because he never had a successful negotiation in his entire career. He got rolled by the Iraqis, too. He couldn't have a Status of Forces agreement. But what we didn't know is when they got back after 10 days, they got a little surprise in the mail. They got a $1 billion commitment by the bank of China to a hedge fund or fund run by Biden's kid, Kerry's step kid, and Whitey Bulger's nephew. They eventually put 1.5 billion. And you and I didn't know about that. You and I didn't know that the guy who was negotiating for us with China. China was making his family billionaires. That's outrageous. I mean, that could be pretty close to the worst crime committed in the last hundred years in America. I mean, Joe sold out America. This isn't just creepy little Joe, basically a small time Delaware plagiarizer and crook. This is a guy selling out his country. And why people are surprised by this, oh, Joe is such a good man, such a nice man. He has such integrity. The guy cheated on his law school exam. He didn't start off as a man of integrity. He started off as a cheap liar. Right. He cheated on his law school exam, then he cheated again on his law school, and then he plagiarized as a senator and had to drop out of the race. This is a guy with an essentially dishonest personality. I prosecuted criminals, Charlie. You know, when I first heard this, I said, I can't believe that Biden is this crooked. Let me take a good look at him. He seems like an honest guy. And when I took his background and I said, oh, my God, this fits the profile of about 5,000 con men that I put in jail. Guy's a crook. If he weren't a crook, I would feel very sorry for him right now because I think his family is doing him a great injustice by making him decompose right in front of our eyes. We're watching a man falling apart. And had I not known all this crookedness and all this selling out of America, I would have felt sorry for him. But what kind of family does he have that lets him go on there and not know his name, not know where he is, not be able to put two sentences together that make sense? It's a family that figures they're going to make more money when he becomes president. They've been selling them for Years. And they're going to keep him alive for so long as they can sell them. They probably are still owed a lot more money by China. And by the way, every time he got money. I can also prove if the left wing media didn't try to beat me in the ground and try to make me non relevant, as if I'm senile and I'm crazy and I'm a conspiracy theorist. I'm none of those things. I'm a very sharp lawyer who has put in jail some of the worst criminals in the last hundred years and haven't had the cases reversed. If they would give me one hour to just lay this case out on national television. I can't believe that you're not going to take them away in handcuffs. You cannot let a man like this become President of the United States. I add a second thing. The man is clearly cognitively impaired to such an extent that it's an illness. And it's an illness that every one of them knows is degenerative. Doesn't get better, it gets worse. He right now seems to be having trouble with really who he is. But that's not the only thing. He inappropriately gets angry. You see those bursts of temper that don't seem to have to do with something else that's like indicator number seven of dementia. If I can go down the list, he's got about seven of the ten.
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A
Well, Mr. Mayor, we look forward to those documents coming out and you continuing to keep the pressure on. How can our audience support you? We have your back.
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B
Well, I really, I really wish you'd all get on my podcast too. It's on rudy, Rudy Rudy's commonsense.com and we have already about eight back issues on Biden that you might want to catch up on because he's been out of the news for a while. And in about two weeks we're going to go back to him with the newly discovered evidence that we have, which is going to take what we had before and make it a lot more dramatic and also implicate. It wasn't just, I should say, Charlie, in conclusion, this wasn't just Biden. This was an Obama administration corruption. Other officials did the same thing, Hillary did the same thing and some other officials did the same thing. And Obiden knew about it and tolerated it. And the question is, why did he just not care? Was he getting something out of it? I mean, he came out of a terrible political background. Chicago. So the interesting questions between now and the end of the election, and I for one are going to make sure they don't escape it.
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A
Well said. Well, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Everyone subscribe to his podcast. You're a great man, Mr. Mayor. You've done great for our country.
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B
Charlie, let me take this opportunity to congratulate you for doing something our party needs so badly, and that is to bring young people in to realize that we really are the future of an honest, you know, well directed restoration of an American republic that we could be proud of.
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A
Amen. Well, thank you. That's very kind of you.
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B
Thank you.
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A
We're going to win.
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B
I know we are. And for the future, amen.
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A
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Talk to you soon.
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B
Thank you. God bless you.
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A
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