Minnesota, Root of All Evil?

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Charlie Kirk Show

Episode: Minnesota, Root of All Evil?
Date: January 7, 2026
Host: Charlie Kirk
Featured Guests: Senator Rick Scott, Caroline Levitt (White House Press Secretary)

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Overview

This episode tackles two major storylines dominating conservative media and Republican circles: the tumultuous post-Maduro transition in Venezuela and sweeping federal investigations into alleged massive fraud and governmental malpractice in Minnesota. Charlie Kirk, joined by Senator Rick Scott and, via press conference, by White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt, closely examines the Minnesota Medicaid fraud scandal’s broader implications for national policy, discusses the strategic U.S. moves in Latin America, and probes whether left-leaning state governments are actively perpetuating an “intentional” system of waste and wealth redistribution.

The tone is energetic, at times incredulous, reflecting Kirk’s signature style: combative, unapologetically conservative, and determined to drive home the urgency of rooting out fraud and reasserting American power and values.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Venezuelan Regime Change & U.S. Policy

(Press Conference segments from 01:30 through ~13:32, with further allusions later.)

• Historic Oil Deal:
  Caroline Levitt details the U.S. brokered agreement with Venezuela's interim authorities to release 30–50 million barrels of previously sanctioned oil, triggering U.S. marketing and financial oversight via American-controlled accounts (02:46).

• Security Commitments:
  The administration asserts no current U.S. troop presence in Venezuela but leaves open the option for military force. Maduro is described as “an illegitimate dictator” now “sitting in a prison cell in New York” (05:02).

• Private Sector Involvement:
  The White House is engaging oil industry and banking leaders, with upcoming meetings at the White House. Secretary Wright is highlighted as key to managing industry relations (03:59).

• Vice President’s Role:
  Levitt derides press speculation about Vice President's lack of involvement, affirming he was “the right-hand man…read in and deeply involved from the very beginning” (06:14).

• Sanctions and Seizures:
  The U.S. is fully enforcing its sanctions policy, including the high-profile seizure of the “Bela 1” oil tanker, part of Venezuela’s so-called “shadow fleet.” Crew members face prosecution (07:13, 15:05).

• Assurances for Venezuelans:
  Administration frames Trump’s action as delivering on bipartisan American promises to “take down the illegitimate Maduro regime,” chiding Democratic “hypocrisy” for previous criticism of his inaction or perceived recklessness (08:34).

• Demands on Venezuela’s Foreign Ties:
  Levitt does not confirm reports that the U.S. is demanding Venezuela cut ties with China, Russia, Iran, and Cuba, citing classified briefings (08:34).

• Greenland Acquisition Question:
  Levitt confirms active discussion of U.S. interest in acquiring Greenland for national security but says diplomacy remains the first priority, leaving all options “on the table” (09:37).

• Sanction Rollback for Oil:
  The U.S. is rolling back select sanctions to allow Venezuelan crude to enter global markets (13:32).

Memorable Quote:

“Diplomacy is always the first option…He tried that with Nicolas Maduro, but unfortunately he was an illegitimate dictator and an unserious person. And so President Trump authorized this law enforcement operation and now Nicolas Maduro is sitting in a prison cell in New York.”
— Caroline Levitt, 05:02

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2. Minnesota Fraud Scandal and Federal Response

(Focused segments ~19:11, 31:04–~49:00; Press Conference from 19:12)

• Tim Walz’s Withdrawal & Somali Defendants:
  Kirk and guests allege massive fraud in Minnesota’s Medicaid, SNAP, and public services, tying Democratic political leadership to willful mismanagement and “cover-ups.” Levitt highlights DOJ statistics:

  • 98 people charged, 64 convictions, of which 85 are Somali descent
  • 2,000 federal agents deployed to Minneapolis
  • Federal funding freezes and nationwide ID/photo requirements for child care payments
  • Audits of Medicaid and unemployment programs, public housing, and SBA suspensions (19:12–21:58)

• Link to Systemic Ideology:
  Senator Scott and Kirk argue the system is “designed to fail,” allowing fraud as a form of left-wing redistribution:

  • “This is Marxism by fraud—that’s taking money from corporations, from rich people, saying, we’re going to send it over here, we’re not going to pay any attention to what’s happening to it.” (35:21, attributed to David Marcus w/ commentary by Scott and Kirk).

• Obstacles to Reform:
  The hosts express skepticism that Minnesota or other blue states will reform themselves. Immediate accountability should include permanently cutting federal funds to the state (38:06–38:50).

• Federal Action:
  Levitt and Senator Scott emphasize ongoing investigations, highlighting “all hands on deck” efforts, with calls for Congressional action to tighten oversight (19:12, 38:50).

Memorable Quote:

“The systems are designed to fail. They’re designed to be looted. They’re designed to have wealth extracted from working class Americans—from the white man, however you want to look at it—to be given to marginalized communities.”
— Charlie Kirk (summarizing Sen. Ron Johnson), 34:17

“That line sticks with me. This is Marxism by fraud. Is this intentional? Is this in a blue state, in a blue setting?”
— Charlie Kirk, 35:40

“Oh, absolutely. … The people, they don’t set up the programs to work. They intentionally allow the fraud.”
— Senator Rick Scott, 36:04

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3. Breaking News: ICE-Involved Shooting in Minneapolis

(Segment at 31:04 onward, especially ~42:53–49:00)

• Incident Description:
  Kirk details reports of an ICE officer shooting a driver during a targeted operation in Minneapolis, following an alleged attempt by a rioter to ram federal agents. This is linked to ongoing tensions surrounding the Somali fraud investigation and intense local hostility toward ICE (42:53).

• Blame Assigned:
  Kirk places responsibility on Minnesota political leaders, naming Mayor Jacob Frey and Governor Tim Walz; says “the blood of this person is on Jacob Fry's hands. It's on Governor Tim Walz's hands, period.” (46:52)

• Increase in Attacks on ICE:
  Kirk cites a “1300% increase in assaults” and “8000% increase in death threats” against ICE since the crackdown began (43:30).

Memorable Quote:

“The blood of this person is on Jacob Fry’s hands. It’s on Governor Tim Walz’s hands, period. Totally well said. 1000% agree.”
— Charlie Kirk, 46:52

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4. Broader Critique of Welfare Administration and Oversight

(Throughout the Senator Scott interview, 32:21–41:56)

• Structural Issues:
  Senator Scott, drawing on his experience as Florida governor, argues welfare and aid programs nationwide are rife with fraud due to poor oversight, perverse incentives, and a “free money” mentality among bureaucrats (32:21–37:14).

• Lack of Accountability:
  Scott recounts failed attempts to enforce standards for unemployment or disaster relief. He alleges politicians resist reform to retain power and votes, especially via subsidizing favored communities (36:04).

• Urgency of Reform:
  Kirk and Scott agree Congress must pass measures to close loopholes, halt earmarks, increase executive branch authority to block improper spending, and launch more aggressive investigations (38:50).

Memorable Quote:

“Every government program, and especially federal programs, the oversight is pathetic. … It’s not fair. It’s not fair. The hard working kid that’s out there, or family that’s out there busting their butt every day and then somebody else doesn’t want work so they take advantage of a state government, a local government, a federal government. It’s wrong.”
— Senator Rick Scott, 33:45

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5. U.S. Foreign Policy Assertiveness: Greenland, Russia, and NATO

(Scattered Press Conference and Interview Q&A, e.g., 09:37, 22:03–24:19, 40:07)

• Greenland Acquisition:
  U.S. interest in Greenland continues, with Levitt and Senator Scott suggesting increased “control over the Arctic against China and Russia” is driving the discussion; all options, including military, remain open, but diplomacy preferred (09:37, 22:31, 40:42).

• NATO Reaffirmation:
  The President “will always be there for NATO, even if they are not there for us,” per Levitt (24:09).

Notable Exchange:

“So I think Trump is trying to be strategic. I don't believe we're going to be invading Greenland, but I do believe we're going to figure out how to work with Greenland to have more military assets on there so we can counteract what China and Russia is doing.”
— Senator Rick Scott, 40:42

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6. Health Care, Mexico, and January 6th

(Selective Q&A during Press Conference; 24:54–29:25)

• Hyde Amendment:
  Levitt reiterates Trump’s record on protecting the Hyde Amendment, but suggests more legislative “flexibility” from both parties is needed to get broader health reforms passed (25:10).

• Mexico and Cartels:
  The President is waiting for signs Mexico’s new president can curb cartel activity without U.S. intervention (26:35).

• January 6th:
  Levitt is asked about an investigation into Roseanne Boylan’s death, reiterating that there is a new website with their preferred facts, and directing inquiries to DOJ (29:25).

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• “If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you’re gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful.”
  — Senator Rick Scott, 00:14

• “College is a scam, everybody…You gotta stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible.” — Charlie Kirk, 00:24

• “We have studies, we know that there’s hundreds of billions of dollars of fraud…we’re just sitting there and people say, well, it’s free. Why do you worry so much about this? Well, we should worry about it…It’s not fair. The hard working kid that’s out there...it’s wrong.”
  — Senator Rick Scott, 33:45

• “This is Marxism by fraud…Is this intentional? Is this in a blue state, in a blue setting…intentionally lacking oversight?”
  — Charlie Kirk, 35:40

• “The blood of this person is on Jacob Fry’s hands. It’s on Governor Tim Walz’s hands.”
  — Charlie Kirk, 46:52

• “When sanctuary cities and states refuse to cooperate with federal law enforcement, this is the result. … They have to go into the streets, do raids, they have to go knock on doors. … This is completely on the head and on the hands of local officials.”
  — Charlie Kirk, 44:14

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Important Timestamps

• 01:30–13:32: Caroline Levitt’s press conference (Venezuela, oil, sanctions, foreign policy)
• 19:11–22:01: Minnesota Medicaid and welfare fraud, federal investigations
• 31:04–41:56: Interview with Senator Rick Scott (Minnesota scandal, federal spending)
• 42:53–49:09: Discussion of ICE shooting incident, context for Minnesota law enforcement tensions
• 35:07–38:06: “Marxism by fraud,” ideological roots of government fraud (David Marcus, Senator Scott)
• 49:09–End: Charlie Kirk analysis, follow-up on House Oversight committee testimony, concluding themes

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Final Thoughts

This episode leverages breaking news and hot-button issues—government fraud in Minnesota, regime change in Venezuela, aggressive American foreign policy initiatives—to stitch together a narrative of conservative resurgence and administrative assertiveness, but also of deep frustration with entrenched “blue state” resistance and alleged leftist deliberate malfeasance. The episode is brimming with accusations, calls for radical accountability, and a sense of embattled urgency.

For those following national politics from a right-leaning perspective, the summary offers a full picture of both the news developments and the ideological context through which they are interpreted.

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End of summary.

Transcript

[Charlie Kirk]

My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student.

[Senator Rick Scott]

Organization in the country, fighting for the.

[Charlie Kirk]

Future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.

[Senator Rick Scott]

If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is.

[Charlie Kirk]

Doing good, you will end up purposeful.

[Senator Rick Scott]

College is a scam, everybody.

[Charlie Kirk]

You gotta stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Turning Point USA College chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA High School chapter.

[Senator Rick Scott]

Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade.

[Charlie Kirk]

Most important decision I ever made in my life. And I encourage you to do the same.

[Senator Rick Scott]

Here I am, Lord.

[Charlie Kirk]

Use me. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. The Charlie Kirk show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold. But the leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. It is January 7th. Lots going on. We are going to throw right here at the top to the press conference that Caroline Levitt is leading and the White House press briefing room. It's the first one since the deposition of Maduro in Venezuela. So we're actually getting a lot of information. Let's go ahead and throw back to Caroline Levitt.

[Caroline Levitt]

Have maximum leverage over the interim authorities in Venezuela right now. And the President has made it very clear that this is a country within the United States, the Western hemisphere, close by the United States, that is no longer going to be sending illegal drugs to the United States of America. It's no longer going to be sending and trafficking illegal people and criminal cartels to kill American citizens as they have in the past. And the President is, is fully deploying his peace through strength foreign policy agenda. So we're continuing to be in close coordination with the interim authorities and their decisions are going to continue to be dictated by the United States of America. Just one follow up, when you talk about that leverage there. Has the Venezuelan government fully committed to turning over its oil to the United States indefinitely? And what happens if they do not? Ms. Well, as you saw, the President announced last night, this was a deal. This was a deal made by the President and his team with the Venezuelan interim authorities. This will benefit both the American people and the Venezuelan people. And Secretary Wright and the Department of Energy are working with the interim authorities and also with the private oil industry to execute on this historic energy deal. That's not only good for the United States, but it's also going to revive the prosperity, the safety, the security of both the United States and Venezuela as well.

[Senator Rick Scott]

Ed, following up on the oil part of this 30 to 50 million barrels of oil, how exactly is that going to work? Getting it out of Venezuela into the.

[Caroline Levitt]

United States and then what? Yes, that's exactly right. So as you know, Ed, as the President announced last night, this was the sanctioned oil that was basically just sitting in barrels, sitting on ships because of the effective quarantine of the United States of America. And the interim authorities have agreed to release that oil to the United States. So it will be arriving here at home very soon. The United States government has already begun marketing Venezuelan crude oil in the globit marketplace for the benefit of the United States. Engage the world's leading commodity marketers, key banks to execute and provide financial support for these crude oil and crude product sales. All proceeds from the sale of Venezuelan crude oil and products will first settle in U. S controlled accounts at globally recognized banks to guarantee the legitimacy and integrity of the ultimate distribution of proceeds. And those funds will be disbursed for the benefit of the American people and the Venezuelan people at the discretion of of the United States government.

[Senator Rick Scott]

Sounds like it requires a lot of private sector engagement and agreement. And the oil industry and the banking industry, does it have that yet?

[Caroline Levitt]

There's a lot of private sector engagement that's happening right now. As you know, Secretary Wright, our Energy Secretary who's heading up this big project, is in Florida today meeting with some of these oil executives. And as we confirmed earlier, they will also be at the White House later this week. So they are absolutely eager to invest, they're eager about these opportunities and Secretary Wright is a very well knowledgeable guy when it comes to oil and energy and he's the perfect man for the job. Another quarter of the world here. Real quick on Iran. Go ahead. So just to follow up on the oil, 30 to 50 million barrels is.

[Charlie Kirk]

An initial tron, if you will.

[Caroline Levitt]

And then what happens after that? What are the plans for the oil? Ms. I won't get ahead of the plans that the President and his team are currently speaking with the interim authorities about. But rest assured there is a long term plan here. Secretary Rubio and the entire team are working diligently on it and this is just sort of the first action that you all are seeing.

[Charlie Kirk]

Ed.

[Caroline Levitt]

Thanks, John.

[Charlie Kirk]

So in order to get these oil companies to invest billions in Venezuela, how will the US Reassure that their workers will be safe in Venezuela?

[Senator Rick Scott]

Could there be troops involved?

[Caroline Levitt]

Ms. At this point in time, as you know, there are no troops on the ground in Venezuela. The president, of course, reserves the right to use the United States military if necessary. It's not something he wants to do. Diplomacy is always the first option. As you saw, he tried that with Nicolas Maduro, but unfortunately he was an illegitimate dictator and an unserious person. And so President Trump authorized this law enforcement operation and now Nicolas Maduro is sitting in a prison cell in New York. So certainly the President is going to do what's in the best interest of the American people, and that includes workers from our energy and oil industry as well.

[Charlie Kirk]

With that meeting tomorrow, with that meeting tomorrow, what is the message the President is going to give to the oil executives and what does he want to hear?

[Caroline Levitt]

Well, the meeting is on Friday and it's just a meeting to discuss obviously the immense opportunity that is before these oil companies right now. Stephen.

[Charlie Kirk]

Thank you, Caroline, and congratulations again.

[Caroline Levitt]

Thank you.

[Charlie Kirk]

The New Yorker had a story yesterday on the vice President and it questioned his notable absence on Venezuela and the sub headline asked was the vice President's exclusion from the operation in Venezuela an expression of his anti intervention, anti interventionist.

[Caroline Levitt]

Ideology or political calculation?

[Charlie Kirk]

Would you be able to discuss the Vice President's role in Venezuela policy?

[Caroline Levitt]

I did see that report in the New Yorker and quite frankly, I laughed out loud because it's very clear it's a fake report that's trying to sow distrust and division amongst the President and his team. Let me just be very clear. The vice President has been involved in all policy. He is the right hand man of the President on all policy matters and including Venezuela policy. He was, of course, read in and deeply involved in this operation from the very beginning and he was present on the night of the operation via secure communication at a different location as to not damage the operational secrecy of this mission that was so incredibly important to ensure that this mission could be carried out successfully without endangering our troops. Carolyn? Sure.

[Senator Rick Scott]

The U.S. seized a tanker recently.

[Caroline Levitt]

Russia specifically asked the United States not.

[Senator Rick Scott]

To seize that tanker. Does this action risk a larger conflict with Russia?

[Caroline Levitt]

Ms. I believe you're referring to the Bela 1 tanker that was seized this morning. The Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security, in coordination with the Department of War, did announce that seizure this morning for violations of the US Sanctions. I've spoken about the enforcement of our sanctions policy at the podium prior to the new year and this administration is going to fully enforce the sanction policy of the United States. The vessel this morning was seized in the North Atlantic pursuant to a warrant issued by a US Federal court after being tracked and this was a Venezuelan Shadow fleet vessel that has transported sanctioned oil and the United States of America under this president is not going to tolerate that. I would also just add the vessel had a judicial seizure order in the crew. So that means the crew is now subject to prosecution for any applicable violation of federal law, and they will be brought to the United States for such prosecution if necessary.

[Charlie Kirk]

Kelly, Caroline, happy New Year to you.

[Caroline Levitt]

Thank you.

[Charlie Kirk]

You, too. I'd like to talk to you about a couple of things real quickly. The first question about the Venezuelan people, as you know, There are some 8 million Venezuelans here, six, some of them celebrating in the streets. There are Venezuelans on the ground who are concerned about their safety. What does the Trump administration, what is it doing to actually help people in Venezuela understand that they will be secure throughout this transition?

[Caroline Levitt]

Ms. I think the fact that this president actually followed through on the long held promise of the United States of America, the bipartisan promise to take down the illegitimate Maduro regime should give assurance to the Venezuelan people and also Venezuelan Americans who fled this communist regime for a better life here at home that this is a president who is serious about taking down illegitimate regimes and who is also serious about securing the security of the United States of America, including the Venezuelan American people. And I would just add that this is something that not just Republicans and President Trump have talked about for a very long time, but it is also something that Democrats have advocated for in 2020. Chuck Schumer said that at the time, President Trump had not brought an end to the Maduro regime. The Maduro regime is more powerful today and more entrenched today than it was when the president began. Now you hear Chuck Schumer out there saying this is reckless. The American people and the Venezuelan people should be in fear. But this is something that Chuck Schumer has long advocated for. Senator CHRIS VAN Hollen State same thing, had said that the United States is going to use its leverage and influence to push for negotiations to transition to the truly elected leader. This was under President Biden. We know Maduro and his cronies don't want to go quietly into the night. The US Needs to work to ratchet up the pressure. Now Senator Haaland says it's an illegal act of war to get rid of Nicolas Maduro. So the hypocrisy is really astounding here. And thank you for giving me an opportunity to point it out. Kayla. I mean, sorry. Go ahead. Yes. So there are reports that the administration is demanding that Venezuela cut ties with China, Russia, Iran and Cuba. Can you confirm? Ms. I'm sorry? Reports that the administration has essentially demanded that Venezuela cut ties with China, Russia, Iran and Cuba. Can you confirm that? Ms. Well, those alleged demands were made in a classified briefing by Secretary Rubio, and I know that there's a lot of leaks coming out of these classified briefings, so I'm not going to confirm or deny or get into what the secretary has said in classified settings to members of Congress. But I think that the administration has made it quite clear to the interim authorities in Venezuela that this is the Western Hemisphere and American dominance is going to continue under this president. There have also been reports that the US could potentially buy Greenland as one potential option on the table. What would such an offer look like? Is there anything monetarily you could provide? Any details there? Ms. Well, that's something that's currently being actively discussed by the president and his national security team. And I would point out that the acquisition of Greenland by the United States is not a new idea. This is something that presidents dating back to the 1800s have said is advantageous for America's national security. The president has been very open and clear with all of you and with the world that he views it in the best interest of the United States to deter Russian and Chinese aggression in the Arctic region. And so that's why his team is currently talking about what a potential purchase would look like. Caroline, Jackie, why not rule out taking it by military force? Ms. I know that past presidents and past leaders have often ruled things out. They've often been very open about ruling things in and basically broadcasting their foreign policy strategy to the rest of the world, not just to our allies, but most egregiously to our adversaries. That's not something this president does. All options are always on the table for President Trump as he examines what's in the best interest of the United States. But I will just say that the president's first option always has been diplomacy. Again, look at Venezuela. He tried ardently to strike a good deal with Nicolas Maduro, and he told him, I will use the United States military and you will not like it if you don't take such a deal. And look at what happened with respect to Iran, the president said the same thing, right? He tried to have serious interest in a deal with the Iranian regime with respect to their nuclear capabilities. They were not interested. And so Operation Midnight Hammer happened, which was another remarkable military success under the leadership of this commander in chief. So the president Keeps his options open. But diplomacy is always the first. Quickly, just one additional follow up on that. Does the President recognize Denmark's ownership as part of the kingdom? Because there have been some Republican senators questioning the claim that Denmark has to Greenland. Is the president in that camp with them? Questioning the legality of. Ms. I have not heard him question it personally, but you're welcome to ask him yourself next time you have the chance. Handings are being lifted from Venezuela. We gotta lift some sanctions to let the oil come in. Can you talk about that just very briefly? Yes. So the US Is selectively rolling back sanctions to enable the transport and the sale of Venezuelan crude and oil products to the global markets. Yes.

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[Caroline Levitt]

Annie. Thank you. There are some reports from Venezuela that the country's leaders are cracking down on the population, specifically suppressing public expression of support from Maduro's ouster.

[Charlie Kirk]

Is that kind of behavior consistent with.

[Caroline Levitt]

What the President wants to see? How the president wants to see the leaders take on the population? Ms. It would not be consistent. And I'll let the President's national security team speak further on that. I know they are well aware. In tracking Kelly.

[Charlie Kirk]

Two questions.

[Caroline Levitt]

One on the seized vessels, the Bela, the Sofia.

[Charlie Kirk]

Can you tell us where they're headed?

[Caroline Levitt]

What happens to any existing cargo? And you referenced personnel potentially facing prosecution. That's one thing I'd like to follow on. On the Bella. Yes. Okay. And on Annie's question, if I could also ask, does the administration believe that the interim regime should release all political dissidents and prisoners and return detained Americans? Ms. That's not a question that I've personally spoken about to the president with, so I will let him answer that question. I don't want to make new policy at this podium today. With respect to Venezuela, with respect to the two ships that you mentioned, I spoke with you about the Bella One. There was another vessel this morning, the Sofia, that in coordination with the Department of War, the Department of Homeland Security apprehended it. This is a stateless, sanctioned dark fleet motor tanker, and this occurred without incident. This vessel was operating in international waters and conducting illicit activities in the Caribbean Sea. The US Coast Guard is escorting the Sofia to the United States for final disposition. To answer your question, Kelly, directly, this was through Operation Southern Spear. The Department of War is unwavering in its mission to crush illicit activity in the Western Hemisphere. And as the president has repeatedly stated, we're going to defend our homeland and restore security and strength across the Americas. Dasha. Dasha, go ahead. Thank you and happy New Year. Thanks to you. Two questions, one on Venezuela, one on Greenland.

[Charlie Kirk]

You've repeatedly at the podium called the.

[Caroline Levitt]

Current leadership in Venezuela interim leadership. There are Republicans and Democrats alike that say they want to see elections in Venezuela. The president has said it's too soon to do that right now. But is there a timeline for elections in Venezuela? Is he committed to seeing that this year, for example? Ms. You just said the president has answered that question. So I will reiterate what the president has said a few times now to all of you, which is that it's too premature and too early to dictate a timetable for elections in Venezuela right now. Carolina, you just talked to Jackie about diplomacy first, right? The Danes have repeatedly said they are willing to collaborate on all of the concerns that the president has, whether it's more troops, mineral rights, intelligence sharing. Why does the president feel he needs to own Greenland and not put out the threat of military action when the this could be done through diplomacy? Ms. Well, who said diplomacy isn't taking place behind the scenes, Dasha? I mean, the president is interested in diplomacy. His national security team is as well. And of course, he's always willing to pick up the phone for everybody and hear out their concerns. But the president is the President of the United States of America, and he's always going to be very clear about what he views as being in our nation's best interest. Reagan. Thanks, Caroline. I have a question for you in Venezuela and then I'd love to ask you about Minnesota and Tim Walls. Sure. On Venezuela, I'm wonder, does the administration hope to start sending more Venezuelan migrants back home or have them self deport.

[Charlie Kirk]

If the situation in the country improves?

[Caroline Levitt]

Ms. As far as I'm concerned, the policies of the Trump administration and the Department of Homeland Security have not changed. All those illegally present in the country are subject to deportation. And I would just like to add how we got here. The president was very clear on the campaign to the American public, and it's one of the many reasons they resoundingly reelected him back to this office, that he was not only going to crush foreign drug cartels, but that he was not going to stand by and watch as the illegitimate Venezuelan regime was sending illegal criminals and gang gang members and rapists and murderers to our country, which happened to the tune of thousands under the previous incident, administration and president. And so there could be nothing more America first than this operation that took place last week. And I would just remind all of you in this room that there were innocent Americans like Jocelyn Nungare who lost their lives at the hands of dangerous Venezuelan criminals who were sent here by the Maduro regime. And that has been the president's North Star and guiding principle throughout his entire policy since January 20th.

[Charlie Kirk]

Minnesota.

[Caroline Levitt]

Does the administration believe that Tim Walls potentially dropped out of the governor's race because he could be under criminal investigation? I don't know if there's a criminal investigation. If there was, I wouldn't be able to comment on it from up here, to be honest with you. But I think Tim Walls probably dropped out of the race because he realizes he no longer has the support of the people of his own state, which is a remarkable downfall considering he was the number two on the Democrat Party's ticket just about a year ago. When it comes to Minnesota, the fraud that we have seen, the wide scale of fraud is really remarkable. It's egregious. I would encourage every single journalist in this room to go to Minnesota and to cover it yourselves. As for the Trump administration, we have officials who have been on the ground almost every day. Secretary Noem was there yesterday. Secretary Besant will be traveling there later this week to talk about the fraud and to do a roundtable on this very topic. And I would just like to leave you with an update. To date, the Department of justice has charged 98 total defendants in several Medicaid fraud and related case programs. 64 were convicted, and 85 of the 98 charged were of Somali descent. The DOJ has also issued over 1700 subpoenas executed over 130 search warrants and they have now added more attorneys to their office there to absorb the case flow. DHS is on the ground going door to door conducting large scale criminal and HSI investigations. They have also sent approximately 2,000 agents to Minneapolis to assist with law enforcement and immigration enforcement. As I said, Secretary Noem was on the ground yesterday. The Department of Health and Human Services has also begun requiring adjustments, identification and photo evidence for all child care related payments nationwide. And they required Minnesota to conduct a full audit of all child care centers. They also froze $185 million in funding to Minnesota. And Dr. Oz who was just here, also notified Governor Walz they're going to begin auditing Medicaid recipients and deferring payments on claims based on waste, fraud and abuse. The Department of Labor is also conditioned conducting a targeted review of Minnesota's unemployment program. Department of Agriculture requiring Minnesota to conduct recertification for SNAP recipients. And HUD has launched investigations into the public housing. SBA has also suspended nearly 7,000 borrowers amid suspected fraudulent activity. So with all of that, rest assured this is an all hands on deck effort from the entire administration to get to the bottom of this and ensure that the ripping off of taxpayers in the state of Minnesota, and it won't just be Minnesota, it will be any state across this country where fraud has taken place and we are protecting law abiding, taxpaying American citizens.

[Senator Rick Scott]

Phil thank you Caroline.

[Charlie Kirk]

Just to follow up on Greenland, there are treaties already on the books that give the United States access to the island.

[Senator Rick Scott]

They can construct and maintain military bases there.

[Charlie Kirk]

We can house personnel on the island.

[Senator Rick Scott]

The US has control of landings, takeoffs, anchorages, et cetera. So I'm curious if you could just spell out for the American public, what.

[Charlie Kirk]

Specifically would the US gain by taking.

[Senator Rick Scott]

Control of Greenland that the US doesn't already have access to right now?

[Caroline Levitt]

Ms. More control over the Arctic region and ensuring that China and Russia and our adversaries cannot continue their aggression in this very important and strategic region. And there would be many other benefits as well that again the President and his national security team are currently talking about. Jeff, I'll give you another one.

[Senator Rick Scott]

Just a broad understand that question on foreign policy. Are you concerned about increasing tensions with Russia because of the tanker seizures? And how does the US Action in Venezuela impact the ongoing relationship with China and the President's relationship with President Xi?

[Caroline Levitt]

I think the President has very open, honest and good relationships with both President Putin of Russia and also President Xi of China. He has spoken with them numerous times, as you know, since coming to office about a year ago, and I believe those personal relationships are going to continue. But as far as for the president and the United States, he's going to enforce our policy that's best for the United States of America. And with respect to these ships seizures, that means enforcing the embargo against all dark fleet vessels that are illegally transporting oil and only legitimate commerce. To answer your question much earlier, Rachel, determined by the United States is going to be permitted, and that's the policy of this administration and he's not afraid to implement it. One more stand back.

[Charlie Kirk]

Just one more stand back.

[Senator Rick Scott]

The I just asked last one. I remember asking the president at the beginning of this term if he was committed to Article 5 in NATO, and he said yes. Has his stance on NATO or his.

[Charlie Kirk]

Commitment to NATO changed?

[Caroline Levitt]

Did you see his statement earlier today? He said we will always be there for NATO even if they are not there for us. And I think that answers your question directly. Yes.

[Charlie Kirk]

Just to follow up on what Jeffrey.

[Caroline Levitt]

Is saying here, we'll request and commit that if any NATO members are attacked. Ms. Again, the President addressed this directly himself this morning after seeing the coverage from all of you in this room on television, and he made it very clear we're always going to be there for NATO, even if they have not done right by the United States of America, and they have not, they have finally increased their defense spending at the request of this president, but it was only because of this president that they did that. Take a couple more. Michael, go ahead.

[Senator Rick Scott]

Thank you, Caroline.

[Charlie Kirk]

Happy New Year and congratulations.

[Caroline Levitt]

Thank you.

[Charlie Kirk]

Two questions, one on health care, one on Mexico. On health care, the president says he wants Republicans to be flexible on the Hyde amendment in order to pass healthcare legislation. What is the White House's message to pro life voters who say federal funding for abortion goes against their values?

[Caroline Levitt]

Well, the president did not change the administration's policy. It was President Trump who who signed an executive order protecting the Hyatt Amendment. It's the Trump administration that has taken multiple actions on various fronts to ensure that taxpayer dollars are not funding the practice of abortion. What the president was saying yesterday was Republicans and frankly, Democrats, too, need to show a little bit more flexibility so we can actually get something done with respect to the issue of health care. Republicans have amazing ideas. The president has himself, as we spoke about earlier, has launched this most favored nation drug pricing initiative, has cut good deals with Big Pharma. He wants to see Republicans and Democrats, too, if they're willing codify those executive orders into law so that these good deals can remain and these prices can continue to be lowered long after this president and this dealmaker in chief is gone. The President has talked a lot about health savings accounts and giving more money back to the health care consumer rather than to these giant insurance companies. And he's been very outspoken and tough on them too. And I think you'll see more and hear more from him directly on that issue. So he wants to see Congress get something done with respect to health care, and that was the point that he was driving home yesterday.

[Charlie Kirk]

Caroline, President Trump says the drug cartels are running Mexico. What action does he need to see Mexico's president Claudia Sheinbaum, take to prove that she's in control of that country, in control of those cartels, and does the White House believe she's able to do that without U.S. intervention?

[Caroline Levitt]

Ms. Look, I think the President was speaking very candidly and frankly about the reality on the ground in Mexico. Haley. Caroline, happy New Year. I wanted to ask you about the seized tanker Villa. There were reports before this that Russia had sent a submarine to escort it. Was there any engagement with that submarine? And then was the deconfliction aligned with Russia used ahead of boarding that? Again, this was a Venezuelan Shadow fleet vessel that has transported sanctioned oil. The vessel was deemed stateless after flying a false flag and it had a judicial seizure order and that's why the crew will be subject to prosecution. Mary, on Columbia, the President talked over the weekend and suggested that you'd be.

[Charlie Kirk]

Open to an operation there.

[Caroline Levitt]

Should the president of Colombia be expecting Delta Force anytime soon. And then I have another one through on California. That would be a very unwise question for me to answer. To weigh into what's your next question on California? Can you share any more about the broad investigation? The President said that there was one who's being investigated and where is it starting? Ms. Again, this is going to be a all hands on deck government wide effort. The President has directed all agencies across the board to look at federal spending programs in not just Minnesota but also in the state of California to identify fraud and to prosecute to the fullest extent of the law all those who have committed it. Take one more. Sure. Thank you, Carolyn. Yesterday was the five year anniversary of January 6th. Democrats and mainstream media continue to push their big lie that it was an insurrection and that police officers died that day. The reality is that four Trump supporters died on January 6 and two women were killed by January 6 police. Everybody knows Ashley Babbitt was shot in cold blood by Capitol Police officer Michael Byrd. But there was another woman. Her name was Roseanne Boylan from Georgia, and she was pepper balled, gassed and ultimately brutally beaten with a stick. By January 6, police officer Lila Morris. The Biden administration and mainstream media lied and told Americans Roseanne Boylan died of a drug overdose on Capitol steps. Her family is now asking for an investigation. Is the administration aware of the circumstances of her death and will there be an investigation? Ms. Well, for investigation, I will have to defer you to either the FBI or the Department of Justice, and I'm sorry to have to do that. But with respect to all of the facts that you just laid out, the White House relished the opportunity yesterday to actually create a new website to share the facts with the American public. But also all those in this room we knew the media would be covering January 6th quite a bit because they think it's something that the American people are still believing their lies on. They think it's something that still helps their case against this president. Obviously not, or else he wouldn't have been reelected in an overwhelming fashion in November of last year. And so I would encourage everyone to take a look at that website. It's quite well done. And thank you all very much. It's great to be back with you.

[Senator Rick Scott]

Thank you.

[Charlie Kirk]

Massive amount of breaking news there. That was the first White House press briefing that Caroline has done since the Maduro, I guess you would call it, attack, a seizure deposition. Also, we've got two tankers that have been basically apprehended boarded by US military. A lot of questions about that. MyPillow wants to say a heartfelt thank you to our listeners for your continued support. To show their appreciation, they're offering an incredible after Christmas sale with some of the best prices and that they've ever had. And all when you use promo code Kirk K I R K. Right now you can get their luxurious Giza Dream sheets for as low as $29.98. That's pretty insane. You'll also find cozy blankets, comforters and duvet covers starting at just $25. Six pack towel sets are only $39.98, making it the perfect time to refresh your home. But the savings don't stop there. Everything is on sale from dog beds and socks to couch pillows and much more. This is the best opportunity of the year to stock up on MyPillow Favorites. Take advantage of these unbeatable specials. Don't wait.

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Senator Rick Scott]

I've been great. Happy New Year, Andrew. It's going to be a great year.

[Charlie Kirk]

I've never been so ready to turn the calendar over to the next year. I will tell you, 2025 was a absolute doozy. But there is so much breaking news here, Senator. You know, there's Greenland. There was a shooting that I want to actually inform our audience about involving an ICE officer in Minneapolis. As you know, we've been surging ICE DHS personnel, over 2,000 on the streets of Minneapolis and St. Paul. Massive, massive reaction from the federal government. It appears that it was a ramming and a shooting. This is breaking news. A ramming and a shooting. So a lot of times these citizen activists, these volunteers on the left, they will follow around ICE vehicles trying to alert the public. And sometimes they ram them and sometimes they try and get in their way. Sometimes they play fast and loose with their own vehicle. It appears initial indications. We're waiting for more information here that that's what this was. But Senator, let's start there. There was a House Oversight committee hearing on the Somali fraud and the complicity within the local politicians there covering it up. Maybe they were getting political kickbacks. What's your take of it? You have run the state of Florida. You know these processes, you know how the bureaucracies work. What's your reaction?

[Senator Rick Scott]

Well, I'm not surprised. Number one, when I became governor of Florida January 2011, I started going agency by agency. Now my background is I'm a business guy and in business you don't waste your money, right? And you solve your customers needs. They don't want to pay you a little extra money because you wasted money or did stupid things. So what I watched agency by agency. There would be, they wouldn't worry about fraud against the stage and so they wouldn't worry about improper payments. They, they, you know, look as free money the way is the way so many people looked at. So I went agency by agency and fixed it. Then we got all this free federal money. It's free. By the way, the, the attitude that many governors have is if, if the federal government's paying for it Up. That's free. Doesn't cost you anything. Right? And so I watched it like after a hurricane. People would say, well, if we just gotta, you know, we can go get all this free federal money. So I watched unbelievable fraud attempts with regard to debris pickup after hurricanes. But that's just the tip of the iceberg. Every, every government program, and especially federal programs, the oversight is pathetic. It's horrible. We have studies, we know that there's, you know, hundreds of billions of dollars of fraud. We know there's tens of billions of dollars worth of improper payments and we don't get the money back.

[Caroline Levitt]

Right.

[Senator Rick Scott]

And then we know, we know people lie, cheat and steal. And we, we're just sitting there and people say, well, it's, it's free. Why do, why do you worry so much about this? Well, we should worry about it because 38 and a half trillion dollars worth of debt, your interest rates are too high because of that. You know, inflation is caused by all this wasteful spending. And it's not fair. It's not fair. The hard working kid that's out there, or family that's out there busting their butt every day and then somebody else doesn't want work so they take advantage of a state government, a local government, a federal government. It's wrong.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. I mean, it keeps getting worse the deeper this rabbit hole goes. Senator, it looks like Keith Ellison. There was a leaked tape released of him that he was basically said he was gonna cover up for these Somalis if they kind of gave them political kickbacks and he was gonna, they were gonna run cover for them. There's just multiple questions here. I'm gonna play David Marcus from Fox News. He had a great take on it. I wanna get your reaction to it because we had Senator Ron Johnson on the show yesterday. I know a friend and colleague of yours in the Senate who said that these systems are designed to fail. They're designed to be looted. They're designed to have wealth extracted from working class Americans from the white man. However you wanna look at it, to be given to marginalized communities. I thought David Marcus made an incredible, Incredible point here. 245.

[Senator Rick Scott]

This is not standard Tammany hall patronage and kickbacks.

[Charlie Kirk]

Right.

[Senator Rick Scott]

We've always had that. That was meant to keep people in power.

[Caroline Levitt]

That was not meant to be a.

[Charlie Kirk]

Massive redistribution of wealth.

[Senator Rick Scott]

What we're seeing here is a massive redistribution of wealth.

[Charlie Kirk]

When these blue states allocate billions of.

[Senator Rick Scott]

Dollars for marginalized communities and then fail.

[Charlie Kirk]

To put in place any safeguards to.

[Senator Rick Scott]

Stop theft, that's Marxism by fraud. That's, that's taking money from corporations, from rich people, saying, we're going to send.

[Charlie Kirk]

It over here, we're not going to.

[Senator Rick Scott]

Pay any attention to what's happening to it.

[Charlie Kirk]

That line sticks with me. This is Marxism by fraud. Is this intentional? Is this in a blue state, in a blue setting? Is this, is this the outgrowth of a really sick ideology that is based on racial grievances, that's based on systemic oppression, that's based on crt, all of these ideologies. Is it intentionally lacking oversight?

[Senator Rick Scott]

Oh, absolutely. I mean, think about it. This is, look, most of the taxes are paid by hard working middle class Americans. That's who's paying most of taxes in this country. Right? And it's taken their money and given it to somebody else. And then their goal is the politicians that give all this away. Oh, vote, vote for them. Because they're giving you something for free. Because it's, it's free, Andrew, that doesn't cost anything. So. Absolutely. I mean, let me tell you a quick story. I became governor of Florida. I ran my whole campaign in 2010 on jobs. I go to the agency that does employment. Right after I won, I said, how's unemployment work? They said, well, you have to. I said. She said, we're open six days a week because unemployed Floridians don't have enough time to apply during the week. Really? I said, if you get unemployment, you have to do anything. He said, yeah, apply for, you have to apply for five jobs a week. I said, you enforce that? Well, no, I said, I said, so I said, if you, somebody was on unemployment and you found them have a job, would you, you know, accuse them of fraud and get the money back? Well, no. I said, what's your purpose here? They said, our purpose is to get as many people on the program as we can.

[Charlie Kirk]

Right.

[Senator Rick Scott]

Because we don't, you know, because that will feel good. Who cares? It's free. By the way, they explained to me that at the time the federal government was paying the excess money. So it's free, it's federal money. They don't care. And they think that's just how they're going to get elected. And you look, I've been up here seven years. They don't, they don't, you know, the people, they don't set up the programs to work. They intentionally allow it to be, allow the fraud. And then we have earmarks that waste money. We have programs that have no accountability. When I was Governor of Florida, 4,000 lines the budget. Every line had a written purpose. If you didn't meet your purpose, I vetoed your money. We can't even. I mean, it's hard to even get a copy of the budget up here, let alone is there a purpose? So we've got to get to the bottom of this. This is unfair. It's un American.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's infuriating.

[Senator Rick Scott]

This has got to change.

[Charlie Kirk]

Senator Scott, we have to get to the bottom of this. But it strikes me that the most immediate, pressing thing, we're not going to get Minnesota to reform itself unless we can have a revolution in their state government. But we've tried several times. We're not going to get washed. Certainly. We're not going to flip Washington. We're not going to flip fraud in California anytime soon. It's. What's the step? I guess, first of all, what could the administration do to have immediate accountability for this? Not just in terms of arresting perpetrators, But I think a lot of people are asking, okay, we know the fraud is there. Can we bring a stop to it in a quick way? Even if that's something as simple as saying Minnesota doesn't get money anymore? Yeah, well, they've cut off some of it. Yeah.

[Senator Rick Scott]

So right now, one thing they should be doing, and they're focused on it, if you talk to Brooke Rollins, if you talk to Memana as you talk to them, you know, they're going through program by program and they're gonna. They're gonna do everything they can. That's number one. Number two is we've got it. We've got. In Congress, we've got to pass measures to stop the fraud and make sure when we pass things, it doesn't allow the fraud to happen. So what people like Ron Johnson and Mike Lee and Cynthia Lummis are doing, we keep coming up with ideas of how do you stop the waste? Now, part of it is stop the earmarks. Part of it is don't have programs that have no accountability. That's part of it. And then the other part is let's make sure that the executive branch has the ability to stop it. And then we need to be doing investigations. We need to do real investigations of each of these programs. I've said for seven years that all this fraud with regard to debris pickup, and I can't get the Democrats to help me. I'm on the right committee, but I have to have Democrat votes to get this done, to fix the unbelievable fraud and debris pickup after hurricanes. Geez, they don't want to do it, Senator. They don't care.

[Charlie Kirk]

I'm just. I wonder if you're going to get maybe a John Fetterman in the Senate if there's laws that need to be changed. Is there. You know, there's too little time here. And I actually have to ask you about Greenland. I had no idea you spoke with representatives from Greenland as much as you did. 259.

[Senator Rick Scott]

Denmark is a great ally. And I know every time I talk to them, I talk to their ambassador quite a bit. They want to work with us. So we'll see what happens there.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, Senator. So you know these people.

[Senator Rick Scott]

I know exactly what's going to happen.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. What is going to happen next?

[Senator Rick Scott]

So I don't know. Look, Denmark's a great ally. I talked to their bastard quite a bit. Jesper's a good guy. So I think Trump is trying to be strategic. I don't believe we're going to be invading Greenland, but I do believe we're going to figure out how to work with Greenland to have more military assets on there so we can counteract what China and Russia is doing. So something will happen there. You never know. Exactly. You know the process. You know the let's Make a Deal guy is going to do, but something will happen there to put us in a better position.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I mean, we're going to have Pete Hegseth on in the second hour, Senator. So we're going to ask him about Greenland. So. And again, audience members, if you have questions, send them in. [e-mail] They've sent in a lot. They're just, they want. The Secretary of War is like, hey, any question, any question you want. So it's fantastic.

[Senator Rick Scott]

He's doing a great job.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, he's doing a phenomenal. By the way, he was our most popular cabinet secretary according to the Amfest Drop poll. So tells you something. People love it.

[Senator Rick Scott]

Yeah, I think he's doing a great job. I just saw him. We did a classified briefing on Venezuela just last hour.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, well, shoot. I wish. Now that you tell me that, I wish I could keep you for a couple more minutes. Senator, thank you for joining. We'll have you on again soon. Thank you so much, sir.

[Senator Rick Scott]

Bye. Bye. See you guys. See both of you. Bye bye.

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An ICE officer fearing for his life, the lives of his fellow law enforcement and the safety of the public fired defensive shots. The alleged perpetrator was hit and his deceased, the ICE officer who was hurt are expected to make full recoveries. And I totally agree with this, by the way, what she says next, this is the direct consequence of constant attacks and demonization of our officers by sanctuary politicians who fuel and encourage rampant assaults on our law enforcement. These men and women who are simply enforcing the law on the books are facing a 1300% increase in assaults against them and an 8000% increase in death threats. This is an evolving situation. We're giving we will give public more information as soon as it becomes and that that's the most important part because she says that we'll see there, there's reportedly video we'll see. We'll get more context on what fully happened. But the big picture is this, which is the reason ICE has to go around all like acting like they're basically going to war is because they're treated as an enemy force by these left wing cities, by these left wing governments. Their job would be a million times easier if they could pluck people out of jails. Like focus on that. Get the criminals who are getting arrested. That's happening all the time. They have treated them like criminals. They've encouraged violence against them and they've harassed them. And so regardless of how this incident went down, that is why it happened and that needs to be the focus. Yeah. The blood of this person is on Jacob Fry's hands. It's on Governor Tim Walz's hands, period. Totally well said. 1,000% agree. I actually like it when we disagree on stuff a little bit because it makes for a lively juices the wheels. I just happen to completely agree with what you said. You have to. So no sob stories here. Absolutely not. I have seen video after video. There was an instance that really sticks out in my mind where I saw a video of this guy ramming ICE officers in California. They ram him back, they stop him and arrest him. He gets released. He gets immediately he's American citizen. So he goes over straight to CNN about two hours later, cries victim on national television. And this is what they do. This is their cycle. So you have these vigilantes, they call themselves citizen activists or whatever and they're working on behalf of illegal immigrants because why get off your couch to help American citizens. They want to go help the marginalized. Right? So then they do this and they put lives on the line. They put lives at risk of federal law enforcement. And by the way, new today, ICE officers have surpassed their recruiting goals of 10,000. According to the One Big Beautiful bill, they've hired 12,000. There's 12,000 new ICE officers on the streets of the United States. And I want to underscore Blake's point here about this, the way that it was done. So you go back to Obama was called the deporter in chief. Do you realize that 80% of those deportations were done the old fashioned way? What does that mean? It means that an illegal immigrant was arrested, apprehended on the streets of his or her, you know, invaded city. They would go into jail. The local officials would process that person. There would be an ICE detainer. They would hand that person over to ICE safely, securely. There's no raids in the streets. There's no DHS rammings. There's no, none of that stuff. It's secure, the person has handcuffs on, they get put on a plane, process put back in their country of origin. When sanctuary cities and states refuse to cooperate with federal law enforcement, this is the result. They have to go into the streets, do raids, they have to go knock on doors. They have to endanger the public in order to do the public a good. So this is completely Blake's point. The blood is on the hand of Jacob Fry, who's, by the way, demanding that these ICE agents be removed from his city, which is not gonna happen, by the way. And you hear Tom Homan saying, we're gonna double down. We're coming for California, we're coming for Illinois, we're coming for New York next. So look out, more of this is coming as it should be. And just say a prayer for our brave men and women of DHS and ICE as they are forced to not work in cooperation behind closed doors in safety, but instead have to go out on the streets and commit, you know, conduct raids on businesses and homes and that sort of thing. Because this is completely on the head and on the hands of local officials. It's absolutely infuriating. Blake. We had a kind of related. But there was a House Oversight committee hearing, the first of its kind. Some explosive allegations were made in this hearing by Republicans in the state of Minnesota that were saying they have tried to conduct oversight and to deal with the fraud in Minnesota. We saw this, this went viral the other day, that there's. In 2018, their Inspector General did a whole report or their staff there did a whole thing. It laid out exactly how fraud happens. They say they have fake groups that come in or so fake groups. They have groups of like these daycares that come in and say, we're interested in stopping fraud, but they're really trying to deflect investigations away. They had a whistleblower explain this to them. They said, we think half of all of our daycare money may be going to fraud, if not more. And then the inspector general just buries it. Well, and get this, they are fabricating documents. Play Cut 262. According to the nonpartisan legislative Auditor, this.

[Senator Rick Scott]

Is another case of mismanagement of taxpayer money.

[Charlie Kirk]

But perhaps the most explosive revelation is that managers within dhs, the Department of Human Services, tried to cover their tracks by backdating and creating new documents. Backdating. So they're trying to cover their tracks. Other testimony from this morning's hearing said that they were blacklisted, that it was career suicide to call out fraud. The depth of the rot seems to note no end here. It's truly stunning. And I think we all knew this was going on. We all knew that there was fraud. We all knew that it was bloat, but it was so amorphous and abstract. And now you're seeing in vivid Technicolor exactly how it works. And they get political kickbacks and they get promises for whole communities like the Somalis to vote and block for them for reelection. For more on many of these stories and news you can Trust, go to charliekirk.com.