B (2:31)

Yeah. So you're. Yeah, exactly. Alex is actually going to join us for. Not only today, but tomorrow. He made the pilgrimage out, and we were honored to have him. And. Yeah, I mean, Alex, let's start right there. I mean, you know, you were probably one of the closest people to Charlie in the news media. You were a weekly guest on the show, at least for the last five or six months before Charlie's passing, I would say. I think it was something like that. But for the life of the show, you came on regularly. You're also the editor in chief of Breitbart. You've been a friend for years. You've spoken at the events. You know, the floor is yours. I mean, you know, this is a reality. Blake and I have been navigating day in, day out, looking at that chair, being in this studio, like you said, just missing our friend, missing a leader of the country, leader of the conservative movement. And yet we also understand that Charlie would want us to keep doing. You want us to keep taking care of Turning Point and keep wanting us to march forward and support Erica in any way we can. But this is, like you said, this is your first time kind of coming back to the show and being around this. I want to give you the opportunity just to kind of reflect on what these last six, seven weeks. What are we at now have meant to you?

D (3:44)

Well, first of all, I'm just really just so pleased with how people took so many of Charlie's lessons to heart and people making wholesale change in their life because Charlie inspired them. I think, Andrew, you and I even talked about this briefly, privately about how we knew Charlie was huge. But it's hard to picture visuals in Croatia or whatever we were seeing after he passed, which is amazing. And also, of course, the connection to his faith is so big, how just the marrying of faith and politics is so overdue in this country. The godlessness has just gotten way out of control. That's a huge, lasting legacy of Charlie. But apropos of what we're doing today on the show, he really became a journalist, which I would never say to his face, because that would have been an insult. I would never wish on my worst enemies. But it is something that the show became a place where thought leaders and political leaders and spiritual leaders would come to get the message out, because they knew it was one of the best places to get the message out. And I just found that amazing that of all the things he was doing, he was also a force in journalism, not just activism and social media and the campus Tours. And I thought about why. And of course, the work ethic comes first to mind, but how he would hone the arguments down to a point. He would just get it so that every single point, not only did he have all this knowledge and wisdom, but the knowledge part in particular. He had so much to say, and he. He had so much history to back it up, so much data to back it up. But then the focusing. And south park tried to make fun of him for it, but it wasn't effective in making fun of him. He would focus the arguments, and that's how you convince people who are completely new. You might only have an elevator pitch, you might only have a second or two with them. Sell me this in a sentence or two. Charlie was the best I've ever seen at that, and he really had that focus. And I hope that's something that as the show continues and those of us who follow in Charlie's footsteps and work alongside him, I hope we all challenge ourselves to get better at that so that we can make our points crisp and precise. So we've got the data, we got the info so that people can take that and use it to grow his movement and his vision.

B (5:39)

Yeah. You know, that's a really interesting observation, especially when you think about the south park parody of Charlie and how we were watching and we're like, wow, they actually got that one pretty right. Because he had gotten some of the arguments down to such a distilled, powerful, you know, formula that even when they were parroting the arguments on campus, Charlie had succeeded in making them ubiquitous. They'd become cultural and almost memeable. Right. And that was Charlie's power of taking pretty lofty ideas. We think of politics as being lofty, and he would make it so digestible for the common man. And you come from the world of D.C. and the think tank world, and everybody wants to prove how brilliant they are, and so they make these white papers. And Charlie was like, we're not a think. T were a battle tank. And you saw that up close because did he ever.

C (6:34)

Did he say that sounds like something he would say.

B (6:36)

Yeah. No, like he said, Turning Point is not a think tank. We're a battle tank.

D (6:39)

Yeah.

B (6:40)

At least early. Early on he used to say that a lot. I don't know if he. If he.

C (6:43)

It works, it very much is true.

B (6:45)

Yeah, it is true.

D (6:46)

There was a certain humbleness to the fact that he would feel like people weren't going to give him a half an hour and he could entertain you for half an hour and Teach you stuff for half an hour. You could do the three hour podcast. No, but he said, I might only have you for 70 seconds. I might only have you for 20 seconds. And there was something that I thought was really. Even though he was a big star, that was something that I thought was very populist of him. That I'm not expecting you to give me your whole afternoon to hear all the things I've ever done. Let me make one great point to you, and I love that approach, because that's something that everyone's got time to hear. One great point. You could just throw it right at him. And that was one thing I've been thinking about a lot, where he really was the best at. And I hope that people take that to heart in their personal lives.

B (7:26)

Yeah, no, that's. That's really well said. And, yeah, we are. We do attempt to continue on his legacy. And, you know, I'll never forget when, you know, everything happened and Erica looked at me and looked at some of the people on the team and said, you know, the show. You have to keep the show going. And I was like, yes, ma'. Am. And I was like, you know, can I ask, like, what's in your heart when you say that? She said, they will not silence my husband's voice. And this show was such an important piece of what he did. And so we're honored to be here. I'm grateful to have Blake and the team, you know, when he's not traveling in Naples taking vows that he'll regret later. Not kidding. You didn't take any vows? I just. It makes me laugh in my inner monologue to think of you doing that. No, so. But, you know, we have from Mikey and Danny and Daisy and.

D (8:19)

Is Mikey here? I gotta say hi to him.

B (8:20)

Yeah, Mikey. I think he'll be around later.

D (8:22)

That's important to me.

B (8:23)

Yeah. No, so no, for sure. But yeah. This is a sacred duty that we have both on the turning point side and here on the show to sort of be that drumbeat, invite the thought leaders like yourself, be the tip of the spear, and get that messaging out there time and again. We're honored to be partnering with Alan Jackson Ministries. And today I want to point you to their podcast. It's called Culture and Christianity, the Alan Jackson Podcast. What makes it unique is Pastor Allen's biblical perspective. He takes the truth from the Bible and applies it to issues we're facing today. Gender confusion, abortion, immigration, Doge Trump in the White House, issues in the church. He doesn't just discuss the problems. In every episode he gives practical things we can do to make a difference. His guests have incredible expertise and powerful testimonies. They've been great friends. And now you can hear from Charlie in his own words.

A (9:15)

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B (9:44)

So we gotta play some clips here. We gotta get you up to speed on these Mamdani clips cuz they were basically the news story this weekend. So I wanna start with I think the most egregious and that is him invoking Islamophobia after 911 and talking about who the real victims were. Plague cut 55. I wanna use this moment to speak to the Muslims of New York City. I want to speak to the memory of my aunt who stopped taking the subway after September 11th because she did not feel safe in her hijab.

C (10:25)

Yeah, I have a few things to say about that. So. So first of all, by all means we're not, it's not confirmed but some people have looked into his alleged aunts and so first he's from like a mixed background.

B (10:35)

So I have that.

C (10:36)

I don't know if we have the image of it, but he appears to only have one known aunt on his paternal side, which is the one with an Islamic background and she was living in Tanzania when 911 happened and there are no photos of her wearing a hijab. So this may all be quite exaggerated or possibly even made up though we must prepare ourselves. We're going to inevitably get the, you know, the swoop and where they actually in the, you know, Indo yoga Ugandan community, you know aunt is just uses a term of respect for any older woman who's like a friend. They do that crap. So what we're dealing with that. But two, it's also just fake. Like so some people have reacted and said like oh boohoo. People didn't like Muslims much after the murdered 3,000Americans for no reason. But the more galling thing is it's just the complete opposite of reality. You can look at the polls.

D (11:24)

Yeah.

C (11:24)

Or you could just remember it if you're old enough like me or you guys to remember all of that that we got this giant charm offensive towards Islam. You know, Bush came out and he said, this is not Islam, that religion of peace. Islam is a religion of peace. Even though Muhammad was not a man of peace. And in fact, repeatedly urged his followers to take sex slaves from enemy populations. But we can talk about that later. And so you can look at Pew Research. They asked like, you know, do you have a favorable opinion of Islam after 9 11? And it went, you know, who went up the most and how positively they viewed Islam. After 9 11, conservative Republicans, they went from 35% favorability to 64% favorability, higher than everyone except liberal Democrats. Everyone went up and how they viewed them. And then, of course, we went and we spent $2 trillion nation building in Afghanistan, a 100% Muslim country, and Iraq, a 95% Muslim country. We let in millions of immigrants from the Middle East. We continue to do this. I think we let in 250,000 Afghans after that war ended. And so we basically went all out to welcome tons of Muslims. Vast majority of them are not really contributing that much to America, in my opinion. A huge. A very disproportionate share of Somalis, Afghans and so on are just on the dole effectively. And then this guy, this slime ball is coming out and he's guilt tripping us because he says his aunt felt uncomfortable wearing a hijab on the subway. Nothing actually happened to her, unlike, you know, the 3,000 people who got blown up on 9 11. And. And then he's coming in and he's saying, oh, my campaign platform is we need to up taxes on white neighborhoods so we can funnel more money to, like, you know, my ethnic compatriots. Which is what he's running on.

A (13:01)

That's.

C (13:01)

He literally says tax white neighborhoods more. That is what he says. It's just so despicable.

D (13:05)

Can we hear the clip again? There's a part I want to point out which is kind of unbelievable.

B (13:09)

Yeah, 55. Go ahead and throw it up. I want to use this moment to speak to the Muslims of New York City. I want to speak to the memory of my aunt.

D (13:19)

Hey, pause right there, right there, right there. You think he's gonna say she was on one of the planes, she died on the plane? And he says, no, she couldn't take the bus because the real bad guys.

C (13:30)

Here and not because anything happened. No, she felt uncomfortable. Maybe people looked at her weird.

D (13:34)

Perfect point. It's not like she also got stabbed on the bus or she got evil eye on the bus. No, no, she felt nervous about being on the bus.

C (13:41)

I can think of a lot of people who feel uncomfortable in various Western countries going on the bus or on the train. I wonder if, you know, compared to 20 years ago, I feel like something happened, okay, three white guys here. That makes people less likely to do that.

D (13:52)

How many of us are taking the bus first? Like, that's our first mode of public transportation if we go to New York. Nope, I don't think I've ever taken a bus in New York. I've been there 50 times. Like, it's the. I'm taking something else other than the bus. And the thought here is not just who the victims are. Which obviously he's saying the victims are the Muslims who are the bad guys. New Yorkers. New Yorkers are the oppressors in this scenario.

B (14:14)

It's not really New Yorkers. Let's be honest, what he's really saying. Somebody who looks like Daniel Penny. Yeah, those are the bad guys.

D (14:21)

White New Yorkers.

B (14:23)

And this is the whole shtick. I actually put out a tweet this weekend like he's playing the victim, like a good little communist is trained to do. Because what they do is they're going to weaponize grievance politics in order to say the oppressors deserve all that's coming for him. And it feels like this is a mask off moment for Mom Donu. Because he's so ahead in the polls now. He is. I mean, credit where it's due. He is the most talented politician running for New York City mayor. There's not a question. And he's arguably the leader of the Democrat Party nationally, I would say. And so he's a good talker. He's got a good line of bs, as President Trump likes to say. This is the Charlie Kirk Show. We are all about saving babies with Preborn. There are 24,836 kindergarteners starting school this month who would not be alive if it hadn't been for what Preborn did in 2019. That's how many babies were saved that year because of gifts of ultrasounds from people just like you in this audience. When a woman considering abortion sees her baby on that ultrasound and hears that baby's heartbeat, it doubles. Let me repeat, it doubles the chance that she will choose life. $140 gives five mothers a free ultrasound and saves babies. $280 can save 10 babies and just $28 a month can save a baby a month for less than a dollar a day. A $15,000 gift will provide an ultrasound machine that will save babies lives for years and years to come. Charlie and Erica love preborn. Charlie loved it so much. He believed in it so much. He was a donor. Whether you want to save one baby or five or hundreds, it's just a phone call or a click away. Join me now saving babies. Call 833-850-2229 or click on the preborn banner at charliekirk.com today. So I think there's just too much more momdani. You know, we have so much news we're going to get to but this, this is just such a rich topic. I want to make sure that we get to all of it. And I believe the clip is let's this is on memory cut 90. Growing up in the shadow of 9 11, I have known what it means to live with an undercurrent of suspicion. I will always remember the disdain I faced, the way my name could immediately become Muhammad, and how I could return to my city only to be asked in a double mirrored room at the airport if I had any plan of attacking it. To be Muslim in New York is to expect indignity. Hold on. Do you have it? Does Zoran Mamdani have any plan of attacking New York City? I would wager, yes, he does. He's doing it politically. He's doing it through the front door. You could argue he has vowed to.

C (17:07)

You know, I feel like if, if a guy went on TV and said, I'm going to release every single person from Rikers Island, I think that's the plotline of one of the Nolan Batman movies. Yes, but now he's just doing it. But because he's a politician, it's a.

B (17:22)

You know, it's a justice reform plan. A good line of bs. Go ahead, Adam.

D (17:27)

But that was where Mamdani was saying, he's the victim of 9 11, not just his aunt who couldn't take the bus.

B (17:32)

I am suspicious of him, though. He's like, I've lived under this cloud of suspicion. I'm suspicious of you. Proudly.

D (17:38)

And also think about what 911 is. It is the single greatest act of intentional violence against Americans in modern history. And he's the guy who said violence is a social construct. It's like when you start adding these data points and you ignore the smile with the toilet bowl teeth grin that he's got with the porcelain whites, then it is very scary. If you were reading this on paper, when he presents it, it seems, oh, maybe, maybe there's something to it. But when you actually read it, if you read the quotes, these are truly insane quotes.

C (18:05)

Well, we should, I mean, we shouldn't even. We should be clear about what it is because as far as I know, there's no evidence Zoran is a particularly devout Muslim in any way. I don't know that we've ever seen him pray. That wasn't for a photo op. Which in fact, it'd be fun to ask him what the five pillars of Islam are. But instead what he is is. He's a very real thing. You see, that is very common on the left. It's like a performative. He is, he's taking the Islamic heritage and he's emphasizing it purely to emphasize that he is like not American and is to some extent anti American. It's this sort of Islam as the global religious flag of being anti west, of having a grievance against the west, of wanting to, in his case, you know, plunder and bring down the West. That that is what he adopts it as. Otherwise he's, you know, more or less just a ordinary, you know, cranky Marxist.

B (18:56)

Well, you know, it's interesting. So he has this big rally in New York. He gets aoc, he gets Bernie Sanders, he gets Kathy Hochul and Hakeem Jeffries are now endorsing him. And so Alex, here's the question. Is there any daylight between yet? There's, there's the route. I mean, this is like 13,000 people came out for Zoran. And you just look at the. There's a bunch of Sikhs, I believe behind them that could be Muslim. I think those are Sikhs, but I'm not sure. But I mean, this is, this is, he is now the really colorful turbans.

D (19:30)

I've never seen turbans this color.

B (19:31)

Well, those are, you know, pastel colors. Maybe they're, maybe they're celebrating.

D (19:35)

They're really hip.

B (19:36)

The Alphabet people as well. So here's the thing though. Is there any daylight between the communists and the DSA and the Democrat Party anymore?

D (19:48)

Kathy Hochul's quote was, elect Zoran and take back America. Again, you hear them say this in the context of a rally, like, yeah, people just say stuff. But if you read these quotes, these are truly threatening. They're threatening taking back America. How could this person who just got here a few years ago and is a Ugandan Muslim immigrant, how is he gonna take back New York City? That is a truly disturbing concept. And all the Democrats are falling in line cuz he's the only one with any energy. They're so low energy that they basically have no choice but to follow aoc, which is what they're following into the shutdown. I mean, the shutdown is 100% about. Chuck Schumer is afraid of AOC to keep his job. That's what it's about. There's nothing else to it. It's just that. And then you've got all of these old whites who are gonna be following Mamdani and aoc, and of course Bernie, the oldest of the whites, who just turned 130 this week. So happy birthday to Bernie.

B (20:38)

They have zero self confidence, by the way. And this white guilt is so pervasive on the left. The American right has largely thrown this off because it is deserving of being thrown off. But the American left, if you are a white liberal, you completely endorse this concept that you have something to appease, you have amends to make with minority groups. But by the way, we're not that far away where whites are going to be just another minority. I mean, this is how radically the demographics have shifted, even in just my lifetime. But this is what's fascinating. I thought this was a really interesting look, Alex, into the psychology of the American left. Because AOC starts giving the screeching spiel and saying, this city was built by the Irish and the Italians and the Jews and the blacks and the Latinos and the native people. So it is literally line by line by line, in essentially ascending order of the Oppression Olympics. This is how she does it, but she divides everybody by their ethnicity. Gone is this concept that we are one people, united by our patriotism, our devotion to country, our love of neighbor. It is simply like grievance group versus grievance group. And here we go in AOC's own words. 96.

C (21:57)

This city was built by the Irish.

B (22:00)

Escaping famine, Italians fleeing fascism, Jews escaping.

C (22:05)

Holocaust, black Americans fleeing slavery and Jim Crow, Latinos seeking a better life. Native people standing for themselves, Asian Americans coming together in Queens, in Brooklyn, in.

B (22:22)

The Bronx, in Manhattan, in Staten island, in this country in a vision to build the freest, toughest and greatest city on earth.

C (22:36)

I will give her credit. I will give her credit. There is a very tall building in downtown Manhattan that was only built because of Muslims.

D (22:45)

Really tall one might be the tallest one. No, it is.

B (22:50)

That was good. Blake.

D (22:51)

If you do a laundry list of which grievance group built New York, Muslims are not a part of it. Which is. It's funny because you wouldn't even think of it. Like, we would never think of this. We're prepping for a show like this, unless they bring it up and they act like the Muslims were a big part of it, which they weren't. And then just going through this laundry list of here are all the various groups, let's just keep subdividing, subdividing, subdividing. It's this really coastal elite, old school liberal thought, which is not modern. It's not converting anyone. There's no one who's just hearing this for the first time and thinking, that's brilliant. These are really stale ideas that she's actually putting out there. And it's interesting because he's so much more talented than she is. And she's sort of the number two biggest leader in the party and he's just leaps and bounds more talented than she is. She sounds so shrill, so screechy. And think about how the party, both leaders of the party, live within a driver and a five iron from each other. Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer. It's just a coastal elite party. They're completely out of touch with normal Americans. And if any normal American hears a clip like that, they're not gonna go, I trust these people, so they're probably gonna take back New York. But then what happens next? That's the interesting question.

B (23:55)

That's the big question, right? So what you're, you rightly identified the cause of the shutdown. It's Chuck Schumer is terrified that AOC is nipping at his heels and that she has the energy of the activist base of the Democrat Party, which is now really the Communist Party. And for a moment there, after, after November 2024, we asked the question, what is going to happen to the Democrat Party? Are they going to moderate, go to the middle, or are they going to go the way of aoc? Jasmine Crockett, Ilhan, Omar Zoramdani. We now have the answer. Yeah, we now have the answer. The last holdouts were Kathy Hochul and Hakeem Jeffries. And what that is, is, is actually sort of the vestiges of the old school Democrat Party that was like, hey, we like capitalism, but we just like more distribution of your money. We're gonna tax you higher and distribute more, cuz government's the answer. But we still like capitalism. And now we're getting into this new iteration where because the old dogs have basically folded like a cheap suit, there is no uniting figure like an Obama or a Clinton that can hold together a centrist coalition. And so the power powers that be within the American left have completely capitulated. It's almost like. It's almost like the Germans coming into France and it's just like, you know, the country just folded really quick and France is the old school Democrats here. And the Germans are going, wow, we took that really easy. Zoram and AOC are going like, wow, that was really easy to take this down.

C (25:20)

Well, I think a good symbolism of that is that the Democratic primary in New York, the top candidates were Zoran, and then they were running Andrew Cuomo, who was not the most popular Democrat before and then had to leave office in disgrace over. You know, you can debate the merits of it, but he basically was a has been Democrat who's making a comeback where the argument was like, he's corrupt but gets things done.

D (25:45)

Yeah, sort of. This is such an underrated part of the story is that the only alternative offered to us was Cuomo. And so. Okay, but did Sliwa drop the Democrats with his Democrats? Did Sliwa drop the hat? Because he was never gonna have a chance with that hat. Did he drop that hat?

B (25:59)

Yeah, I haven't seen it.

D (26:00)

Okay, good. All right.

B (26:01)

So no, I mean, listen, here's the thing. Like a lot of people, there's a big debate online. Well, you know, Cuomo has given us no excuse for Republicans to vote for him. And I get that. And Cernovich, who I greatly respect, is saying Sliwa shouldn't drop out, Cuomo should drop out, and they should all vote for Sliwa. I don't care which direction it goes. But I mean, to be fair, this is a Democrat city. So if you actually want to have a chance to beat Zoran Mamdani, with all the normal people coming out to the polls, it does make some sense that it should go to the Democrat. Right? And we all understand that Sliwa basically has no real chance.

C (26:37)

I don't say it should make sense to go to the Democrat. I would say it is understandable, looking at the polls, to say Sliwa, even if should support him, is in a distant third. And if he were to drop out and people voted Cuomo, we could avert a really nasty disaster for New York City. And you know, Charlie and I would talk about this, that we do not abandon our cities. We do not say, oh, they just deserve this. You know, every bad thing that happens.

D (27:03)

Hey, man, as a resident Californian, I can say that the right absolutely does abandon parts of the country. We've been totally abandoned for many years out there. And it's interesting for me to watch.

C (27:13)

And even then, true heroism is sometimes, you actually have to step up and try to save people who are not great and don't want to be saved. And maybe that's what's gonna happen. And if New York does choose this, they will get what they voted for, very emphatically.

B (27:26)

It's not going to be pretty. It's not going to be pretty.

D (27:30)

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B (28:39)

So this is an interesting question. This is for you, Alex. I think so. We're getting these. A lot of emails@freedomarliekirk.com I want to read some of this. So Kathy says, how does Newsom fit in? Wondering how Newsom will fit in with this new Marxist movement led by AOC and Mamdani.

D (28:54)

Yeah, he's a political lizard. He just does whatever he thinks will get him the most attention. Just track the podcast. Okay. So he starts the podcast and he has Charlie on. It's a sensation. It was fantastic conversation. Viral clips are going everywhere. Blows up his brand and he sounds reasonable. 75% of the conversation and his stock is hot. But it's not, because if he's trying to win a Democrat primary, he's going in the wrong direction.

B (29:19)

He picked the wrong direction.

D (29:21)

He picked the wrong direction. So he does Michael Savage. He does Bannon. These are interesting conversations with conservatives and his Polls are going down in a Democrat primary. People like me are going. He's so much more interesting now. Now I actually can find him actually listenable. No, that's not what he needs to do in order to win a Democrat primary. He needs to adopt fake accents. He needs to act like he was a poor guy, even though his dad was the general counsel. Forgetting oil. Yeah, do it.

B (29:45)

We. We should. We should show that cut 57 macaroni and cheese. Are you talking about me? Yo, YG. YG, man. Every day.

D (29:56)

Every day in the backyard, just bouncing the basketball, throwing the ball against the wall until the ball is just, like, fraying, man. And it just saved me and it got me into college.

B (30:05)

So she's hustling. Well, it turns out if you throw up this image, there's an image of him and his buddies. Looks like it's probably from the 80s. And it says, Gavin Newsom with Paul Mohan, Andrew Getty, and Bill Getty posing for a Children of the Rich feature that ran in the San Francisco Chronicle because it was December 12, 1991. So children of the Rich. And he's just here. Gavin's just like, ah, you know, man, I just had to hustle. I had to go get some, shoot some hoops, man. Eat that crap.

D (30:33)

Getty Oil money, it's one of the richest companies in the history of the country. And his dad was a top attorney for it. And everyone knows this about it because he's a known commodity.

B (30:41)

He owns a winery, he eats at French Laundry. Here he is just trying to be this population, but he doesn't care because.

D (30:48)

He'S not a true leader. And that's what's interesting. They have a huge dearth of leaders in their party.

B (30:53)

There is no Bill Clinton or Obama. All right, Blake, while you were gone, Trump destroyed a historical monument at the White House.

C (31:01)

So, yeah, I was out for two weeks, basically, and I come back to discover the number one issue in America, apparently, is Trump redecorating the White House. Like, people are freaking out so much about this. You'd think the east wing of the White House, like Democrats are freaking out so bad. You'd think the east wing of the White White House was like a five time felon who, you know, died or something, because it's just apocalyptic. I've been seeing people are tweeting. They clearly think that he destroyed half of the actual White House. There was a tweet or someone was just in one of the rooms of the normal White House. My wife and I in the east wing can't Believe it's gone. And then there was some. Some article that was like, they were saying the East Wing has been called the heart of America. I have lived in America for 35 years, and I have never once in my life heard the East Wing called anything at all. So other than the less famous wing of the White House, it literally was.

B (31:59)

Built after World War II, which, by the way, it was to cover up a World War II bunker that had been built there for safety during the war. And it was, you know, which is the era from, like, arguably between the 60s and 70s and the 50s, though, where most of the terrible architecture in the United States.

C (32:16)

No, it's not even about that. It's not even about that. It's just, it's. It's not the White House, it's not the West Wing, it's not the Eisenhower building, and it's also not good enough. You see all this all over. They're saying, why? Yeah, like, we have to have. We have to. To set up tents and porta potties, to have diplomatic dinners because we don't have a big enough facility to do it in the United States of America.

D (32:35)

Isn't this the point? There's so many points to be made, and we should make all of them. But isn't the point that this is a new, newish part of the building and it was built for staffers after World War II, and we're going to replace it by the greatest builder to ever be president, regardless of what you think of his politics. A guy who's so qualified to do this, it's ridiculous, and he's gonna build a ballroom so that we can host state dinners, we can host leaders from all around the world. The big shots of the all big shots can come and congregate at this building, and not just for his presidency, for future presidencies. And this is the thing that kind of blows my mind with Democrats is I think they missed a concession layup here. I think they come in, they have one of these BoM dummy rallies with AOC and Schumer, and they come in and they say, thank you for building us a new Ballroom Trump. We are going to win back the White House. We're never going to give it back, and we're going to throw party after party in the ballroom. You built us. Thanks a lot. But they're not that funny. They don't have any vibes anymore. They just act like this is Watergate number three.

B (33:29)

So I think that's really funny, and they should have done that. But they're not as smart as you, Alex, but this is another viral trend that's going on. People mocking the left's faux outrage about the east wing of the White House. So this is from Tom Colicio said, my wife and I in the east Wing. I can't believe it is gone. And so throw this image up. I think we should have.

D (33:53)

Is it the chef?

B (33:54)

Yeah, it's. And then what happens is the right online just starts trolling it. So this is Tony Kennett. I'll never forget watching the Medal of Honor ceremony for Commander Miranda Keys in the east wing. Now, because of Trump, it is gone forever. And then there's Chef Gruel got in. Or Jack actually got a good one. His favorite Pizza Hut. He goes, I took this iconic photo of the east wing of the White House many years ago. I can't believe it's gone. No kings. And then Chef Gruel says this. What is this from? What is this? I don't know. I took this iconic vote of the east wing of the White House many years ago. I can't believe it's gone. No kings. So everybody's just trolling. And actually, what Trump wants to build, put this b roll up of this beautiful new ballroom. And here's what we can't forget, that this just makes every sense in the world practically and pragmatically. Presidents have been wanting an event space for these diplomatic dinners, these fine dining experiences at the White House for years. Instead, they've spent millions of dollars on tents, porta potties, all this stuff. If Trump goes off campus somewhere else, that's millions of dollars annually just in expenses for security and movement and transportation. Secret Service has to plan this out in advance. Well, I mean, we're talking thousands of people get mobilized anytime there's a movement of the know.

C (35:16)

Another great thing about this that makes this funnier. There's been this whole movement on the left people may or may not have heard of. They call it abundance. It's like Ezra Klein. It's sort of the old Obama people where they see, oh, wow, you know, America's not building anything anymore. We can't get infrastructure, we can't get trains, we can't get roads, can't get buildings. And so they're trying to say, like, the left, the center left, we can do this. They call it abundance. And their idea is we'll get rid of regulations and zoning and we'll be able to build stuff again. And so Trump is basically doing the most abundance coded thing possible. He says, we need this thing. We're gonna build it, and we're gonna do it fast. We're just gonna, bam, building's gone. We're gonna get this new building up within a year or two, you know, unfathomably quickly. For America, where it takes 18 years to do anything and they're losing their abs, they're absolutely losing their minds.

B (35:58)

Well, but here's the other thing that's funny, is like, the left, I thought was all about progress. Out with the old, in with the new. But here, all of a sudden, they're clutching their pearls. They're so upset. Upset that something 50, 60, 70 years old has now been renovated.

D (36:10)

We're doing a big history on this today at Breitbart News. And so people can see all the photos. Every renovation is met with criticism. It's usually political. But the White House has never been frozen in time. It's always been. They've always complained about wasting money. We're not wasting money. For more on many of these stories and news you can Trust, go to charliekirk.com.