Podcast Summary:
The Charlie Kirk Show
Episode: Pennsylvania's Mail-In Ballot Madness
Date: December 8, 2020
Host: Charlie Kirk
Co-Host: Producer Andrew
Episode Overview
Charlie Kirk and Producer Andrew dive into the political and cultural chaos surrounding the 2020 election, focusing on allegations and theories of voter fraud, especially related to mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania. They also discuss the broader context of COVID-19 lockdowns, societal trust, and ongoing legal challenges, emphasizing the necessity of grassroots mobilization and public pressure to uphold election integrity.
Key Topics & Discussion Points
1. COVID-19 Lockdowns and Societal Impact
[02:08 - 09:09]
- Comparing State Responses:
- Andrew describes the strict COVID-19 lockdown in California, banning indoor dining, versus the less restrictive atmosphere in Arizona where restaurants are bustling.
- Kirk observes: "After eight or nine months, people are now weighing the risks. ... I still want to go out to eat." [02:16]
- Media and Data Transparency:
- The hosts discuss purported media dishonesty about the severity of the virus and cite purportedly low flu statistics as evidence of manipulation.
- Andrew: "They cannot report on flus this season because there are too few hospitalizations. Straight from the CDC's website, by the way." [03:46]
- Lockdown Cost-Benefit:
- Kirk questions the efficacy of continued lockdowns in reducing infection rates and highlights their negative impacts: "The human cost of the lockdowns is so significant and so clear ... the lockdowns, I believe, are nothing more than a tactic and a strategy to want to keep America perpetually in a cycle of not just despair, but going towards almost a great reset, globalist direction." [05:38-06:11]
- Comparison to the Iraq War:
- He draws a parallel: "As the Iraq war is to the war industry, the Chinese coronavirus is to the epidemiological industry." [08:20]
2. Division of Trust in the Electoral Process
[09:09 - 12:04]
- Polarization Over Election Trust:
- Kirk references recent polling showing stark differences in trust: "Nine in 10 Democrats say the process worked well... Nine in 10 Republicans disagree." [09:09]
- Consequences for Democracy:
- He relays concerns from a gathering: "Every single one... believed the election was stolen from Donald Trump. ... if he is not sworn in as president in January, they will never trust another election again. And with it, they won't trust their country." [09:40]
- Andrew notes: "The polarization left doesn't even resemble an America that I remember anymore." [10:03]
3. Historical Parallels and the Stakes in Georgia
[12:04 - 15:51]
- Pearl Harbor Remembrance:
- The episode marks the anniversary of Pearl Harbor, comparing America's WWII mobilization to the political battles over the Georgia Senate races and alleged election fraud.
- Kirk: "That generation left us a gift that really we are squandering right now ... we're in the middle of a two front war right now in Georgia, where we not only need to win the Senate races but we need to expose all of this voter fraud that's happening in this country." [13:14]
4. The Call for a 'Whistleblower' and DOJ's Role
[14:09 - 17:23]
- Need for an Insider Revelation:
- Kirk laments the lack of a decisive whistleblower: "We need a serious whistleblower ... I was the guy that scooped up the ballots, I helped fill them in ... I will not be able to live with myself for the rest of my life." [14:25]
- Critique of DOJ/FBI:
- The hosts argue that active investigations and threats of indictment would have pressured insiders to speak out.
- Andrew: "If you're a criminal ... and you even hear people ... saying investigations continue ... you'll start to get nervous. But when you turn on the news ... this isn't real, this is the most secure election in American history ... you start to say, they're going to cover for me." [15:22]
5. Pennsylvania Mail-In Ballot Analysis
[17:23 - 21:06]
- Statistical Improbabilities:
- Daniel Horowitz’s analysis is featured: "We know that 2.6 million mail in ballots have been counted in Pennsylvania ... Trump won election day votes, 2.7 to 1.4 million. ... Biden won 76% of the mail in ballots." [17:52]
- Kirk notes historical context: "A lot of Republicans vote by mail. ... Republicans used to outpace Democrats in voting by mail." [19:00-19:11]
- Questioning the Results:
- Calculations suggest Biden's proportions of mail-in votes among Democrats, Republicans, and Independents are implausibly high: "He would have had to get 95% of Democrats, 21% of Republicans, which does not happen ... He is not losing 21% of the Republican vote, nor ... 80% of the independent vote." [20:06]
- Kirk: "The fact that Biden somehow made up the margin of victory after election day mail in ballots is so hard to believe, it's incomprehensible." [21:06]
- Legal Implications:
- Kirk: "What's it gonna take for a judge to say this is so obviously stolen and this does not make sense? Can this stuff hold up in a court of law?" [21:25]
- Andrew: "Judges are human...they are absolutely open to public pressure." [22:10-22:17]
6. Georgia Vote Counting Controversy
[22:51 - 26:06]
- 'Smoking Gun' Footage:
- The hosts discuss video footage of ballots being counted in Georgia after media and observers were reportedly told to leave.
- Kirk: "Why were the media told that counting had stopped? Why were the observers removed? Why was the Republicans not in the room?" [23:29]
- Critique of Explanations:
- Andrew says, "That's the explanation that we're all hearing is that this is common practice." [23:21]
- Kirk counters: "That's like saying murder is common in Chicago. That doesn't mean that it's okay." [23:25]
- Dominion Voting Machines:
- The guest raises concerns about voting machines being connected to the internet (contrary to official claims) and updates that may have influenced results. [25:09]
7. Legal Chess: The Safe Harbor Deadline & Justice Alito
[28:38 - 33:22]
- Safe Harbor and Supreme Court Maneuvering:
- Andrew explains the importance of the "safe harbor" deadline for certifying electors and the Supreme Court dynamics in the ongoing Pennsylvania case.
- "If [Justice] Alito rules in this emergency injunction that actually this, that Pennsylvania violated the state's constitution ... then by the 9th, there's still legal challenges pending. They can't seat electors. This is a massive, massive change." [31:19]
- Potential Precedent:
- If Republican Rep. Mike Kelly wins, it could prevent seating of electors and spur challenges in other states.
- "If it succeeds, then it could set a precedent. ... It gives momentum." [32:31, 32:36]
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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Charlie Kirk on Lockdowns:
"The lockdowns, I believe, are nothing more than a tactic and a strategy to want to keep America perpetually in a cycle of not just despair, but going towards almost a great reset, globalist direction." [06:11]
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Producer Andrew on Media Credibility:
"They cannot report on flus this season because there are too few hospitalizations. Straight from the CDC's website, by the way." [03:46]
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Kirk on Election Division:
"Every single one of them believed the election was stolen from Donald Trump ... if he is not sworn in as president in January, they will never trust another election again. And with it, they won't trust their country." [09:40]
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Kirk on Statistical Improbabilities:
"The fact that Biden somehow made up the margin of victory after election day mail in ballots is so hard to believe, it's incomprehensible." [21:06]
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Kirk on Georgia Counting Controversy:
"That's like saying murder is common in Chicago. That doesn't mean that it's okay." [23:25]
Major Timestamps
- COVID Lockdown Discussion: 02:08 – 09:09
- Election Trust and Polarization: 09:09 – 12:04
- Pearl Harbor and Historical Context: 12:04 – 15:51
- Call for Whistleblower/DOJ Critique: 14:09 – 17:23
- Pennsylvania Mail-In Ballot Analysis: 17:23 – 21:06
- Legal Standards and Public Pressure: 21:25 – 22:51
- Georgia Ballot Counting Claims: 22:51 – 26:06
- Supreme Court & Safe Harbor Deadline: 28:38 – 33:22
Tone and Style
The episode maintains a passionate, urgent, and unapologetically conservative tone throughout. The hosts stress the importance of activism, public pressure, and not yielding to what they view as mainstream narratives or institutional authority.
Summary for New Listeners
This episode provides an extensive deep dive into claims of voter fraud and electoral irregularities in the 2020 election, primarily focusing on Pennsylvania's mail-in ballots. Charlie Kirk and Producer Andrew champion the need for public vigilance, call for whistleblower revelations, and dissect legal strategies aiming to overturn or delay certification of the vote. They interlace their arguments with broader critiques of COVID-19 restrictions, perceived media bias, and a sense of existential crisis for American democracy if alleged issues are not addressed. Through a mix of analysis, historical metaphor, and fervent rhetoric, the episode presents a roadmap for conservative grassroots activism in the face of what they see as national peril.