Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (2:28)

And it's remarkable that in the early days of the administration, they would poll different things. The press was trying to undermine the president and they were trying to poll mass deportations, but consistently, mass deportations would poll very favorably. However, fast forward to right now, you have Alex Preddy Renee Good were two American citizens that were killed in their altercations with ICE agents that ended up dragging down some of the polling. Certainly it got spun in the news media very successfully by the left. So there's no doubt that there has been consternation in conflict.

Blake (3:05)

I think that's predictable. Large scale deportations are just one of those things that inevitably creates its own opposition. You get the photos of crying kids, this kid's crying. So I guess we can't have borders or laws anymore. And so what's happening today that we wanted to highlight? This came out just at the end of the show yesterday. Axios had one of their exclusives and it's that reportedly White House Deputy Chief of Staff James Blair has been urging House Republicans to basically stop saying the phrase mass deportations. Pivot the messaging to we're getting rid of violent criminals, we're getting rid of the worst of the worst. And they also cite there's a Politico poll that says about half the country thinks mass deportations is too aggressive. That includes about 20% of Trump 2024 voters. And we wanted to highlight that because I think you and I and Charlie would have the same perspective, which is above all, we care about success. We don't necessarily care about messaging. So we think if it makes sense for the administration to pivot to, oh, we're getting rid of the worst of the worst, go ahead and do it. What matters is reality. And so we, I guess our caution to the administration would be don't let a pivot on messaging turn into a pivot away from securing the border, deportations, immigration, security generally, because a lot of it has been a huge success. You can go through the numbers like we've doubled the number of ICE arrests overall. There's the new fee on H1BS, there's the what, 33% drop roughly in foreign students. They've greatly enhanced putting Americans first, not having us endlessly be the dumping ground of the third world.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (4:49)

There's been a full on ban of some visas being issued to certain Muslim countries and other countries that fail to vet their population properly. And let's just go into the numbers on the polls though here. According to the latest poll on deportation, 64% of Maga says that Trump's deportation approach is just right. 47% of non MAGA Republicans think the same with 21% of MAGA and 17% of non MAGA say that it is too aggressive or it is not aggressive enough. Apologies. So here's the caution and I agree with Blake. You Want commas, not drama. Right? You want millions of people removed from this country. You want it to be done quietly. You want it to be done efficiently. You want it to be done with no drama. This was the problem with Minneapolis. And I will, I will say you saw this from certain commentators like Joe Rogan, who ended up endorsing President Trump, saying that the immigration approach he thought was cruel. He thought it was cold. He saw, he thought some of the memes from DHS were too aggressive, they were too performative. All of those things could be true. But again, keep the drama behind the scenes. Get the job done with technical precision, with professionalism, do it without headlines. And that is the key, because we always knew. I want you to take your mind back to Trump 1.0 with AOC at the border crying in her all white outfit about kids in cages. Well, the kids in cages were started under Obama as soon as Biden took over and there was 300, 350,000 migrant kids missing in the interior. There were, there was zero tears from aoc. We know this is performative. We know that they do this to gin up sob stories and to turn the population against the president's agenda. My warning is this. There is no single tactic, no single policy plank of the Trump administration that is as popular as deportations as immigration itself. The issue is the border got cleared up really quickly. Right. And we even saw from the Fabrizio polling that people don't. It doesn't move the needle to talk about a secured border, but it's incredibly important. And the second that border stops being secure, it will become a massive issue again.

Blake (7:02)

And that's more to the point, is okay whether it's popular or not, actually executing on mass deportations, above all, it matters because it is of existential importance to the country.

Corey Simms (7:12)

Correct.

Blake (7:12)

If you want to see your future. Just yesterday, the United Kingdom has moved to take famous Brits off the money. They're going to take Winston Churchill off the money, Jane Austen off the money and replace them with nature scenes. And a clear reason they're doing this is they've brought in so much replacement level immigration, they basically have to abolish their own history. Too many great Brits are white Christians and that's, you know, they're offensive to Muslims who've come to the country to, to, oh, they helped colonize India. They have a lot of Indians in the country. It's basically they have to destroy their own legacy. They have to wage war on themselves. And the mass replacement level immigration into America was the left's way of waging war on this country. They're bringing in people hostile to American history, American values, American religion, and also people who are going to be a drag on the American state. They're bringing in dependents, they're bringing in, frankly, some of them are essentially parasites on America. And that's all deliberate on their part. They want to bring in people who will immediately go on the dole, who will immediately cause problems. And you need to undo that or it will destroy America. So if you need to say we're focusing on the worst of the worst, but we're still sending the letters to the businesses that say you're employing people illegally under the table, this is a great go for it. They're doing that right now.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (8:33)

Keep doing it. There are ways in which you can message effectively that you can actually prosecute the case effectively. That will be more in terms of total numbers of deportations than doing raids out on the street. Right. Because what we've learned, the learnings are that that becomes a cause du jour for the left. The left wing media will spin it up and make it a huge drama. And you'll get Karens from all over the country driving to Minneapolis to go put themselves on the front lines of a war they know nothing about and don't understand. Go after the businesses, go after the visas, go after the overstays, go after the prisons at the local level with the blue cities, the blue states, and you will get commas, not drama. And that is the key. I think Mark Wayne Mullen can achieve that goal. I think you follow the model that Homan has put forward in Minneapolis where he's getting participation from local jails and prisons. And that is the key. But do not get soft. Do not go squish on immigration. It is the one unifying policy of the entirety of the coalition. Before he ever stepped behind a microphone, Charlie understood something important. Leadership begins with learning. He didn't chase a diploma or a title. He chased truth through Hillsdale College's free online courses. He studied the great works of the classics, the principles of the American founding and the life changing truths of the Bible. Those ideas didn't just inform him. They shaped his character, strengthened his convictions and prepared him for the challenges ahead of him. One of the courses he took was the Genesis Story, taught by Hillsdale Professor Dr. Justin Jackson. This free online course explores the relationship between God and man, what happens when that relationship is broken, and the path toward reconciliation. It's a real college course, rigorous, thoughtful and accessible to anyone willing to learn. You can take the very same course completely free. Grow stronger in your faith. Gain clarity about humanity and your place in the world. Prepare yourself for a life with courage and conviction. Visit charlieforhillsdale.com to enroll today. That's charlieforhillsdale.Com Learn deeply. Lead boldly. Carry it forward.

Charlie Kirk (10:46)

This is a strike zone issue for us. Rarely, everybody do you get the trifecta. An issue that is popular, an issue that is mandatory to save civilization, and an issue that is necessary to happen urgently. And this qualifies all three. We'll be right back.

Blake (11:08)

Mandatory to save civilization. That that's in the end, why you can't back off. Massage it however you need to, Message it however you need to. I think we agree there was a little bit of. It was. There was a lot of triumphalism early in Trump 2.0, understandably. He won.

Charlie Kirk (11:22)

Really.

Blake (11:22)

He won strongly. You want to be assertive and I think sometimes that just it rubbed some of those independent voters the wrong way. But in the end, it is mandatory to save America. That we not keep these 10 million people that Biden let in.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (11:36)

You cannot break into the country and get off scot free. That's not an option. Sovereignty has to matter. We no exception. They all have to go. How we get there, the messaging. We get there that will. I guess you could say that you could massage that. I think that's a fair word. All right, so why this is important. Okay, so we go to war, we have an excursion. There's a conflict, strikes against Iran, whatever word you want to use for it. And guess what happens? We get an Austin nightclub shooting from a Muslim, radical Islamist. We get IEDs thrown at anti Muslim protestors in New York City. But everybody, you know, Abby Phillips thinks that it was against Mayor Mamdani. You've got a consulate that gets shot up in Toronto. So you. So we've now imported a bunch of people that hate us, that don't share our values, and that if they get offended, they're going to turn their weapons on us. That is failed immigration. That is absolutely the reason why we should not be importing people that hate us. Now you turn our attention to Abby Philippin and cnn. I watched this actually live. I don't know why I did. It was like the remote got changed and all of a sudden it was on cnn. And I couldn't believe the way they were talking about immigration and Muslim immigration. The starting point for their conversation was you're a bigot if you think there's a problem with Islam. Well, listen, Charlie was very clear about this. We'll maintain it. There's a difference between macro and micro. There. Yes, there are micro independent instances where you meet very kind Muslims that are very nice and they're very respectful. They're proud to be American. I'm not saying that doesn't exist. But on the macro, when you import millions of Muslims, don't be surprised when a few of them try and kill you. That is the lesson of Western civilization and Muslim immigration. And you look at the uk, you have people from the United Arab Emirates refusing to fund students abroad to the UK because they might get radicalized and come back to the UAE as radical jihadists. That's the problem. And you see this in Melbourne. Melbourne, Australia is now a hotbed of Muslim radicalization. New York City. These kids at Gracie Mansion were from Pennsylvania living in a $2 million mansion. It didn't matter. They got radicalized because they were offended. So now, I mean, if you contrast this, Blake, with what happened in World War II. Did we have a bunch of Muslims screaming in the streets upset at our foreign policy?

Blake (14:13)

Well, no, we didn't even really have that many. Like, yeah, no, just. No, it was 97% support.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (14:18)

Yeah. Well, that's very interesting. So now we have to play the clip cuz as everybody's talking about it. And she's since apologized for it. This is CNN's Abby Phillip claiming that the attempted New York City bombing was actually an attack against Mayor Mamdani. 13 Two Republicans say Muslims don't belong here after an attempted terror attack against

Alex Marlowe (14:37)

New York's Mayor Zoran Mamdani.

Blake (14:40)

And the House Speaker, Mike Johnson says

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (14:43)

nothing really to condemn those comments. She repeated this apparently two or three times during the broadcast. And then this morning she was finally forced to correct the record show 188. This is her apology. I want to correct something I said last night. The bombs thrown in New York City over the weekend by ISIS inspired attackers was thrown into a crowd. Yeah, that grammatically, it's a poor tweet. Was thrown into a crowd of anti Muslim protestors. Bombs.

Blake (15:08)

I hate it when bombs just get

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (15:09)

thrown and not specifically targeted at Mayor Mamdani. That wording was inaccurate and I didn't catch it ahead of time. I apologize for the error. So the question now has become, was she intentionally lying to her audience or was this a. I think someone was.

Blake (15:22)

I don't know that. I think people, they fixate on the talking head and really the process is at CNN or CNN is laundering what occurred. Which is that, okay, there was an anti Islamic march. And then while people were protesting and trying to say love is love, let everyone in here, they, they got the, they got a very rude encounter with what the religion of peace often actually is, which is you had people whose parents were welcomed into this country who clearly had tremendous opportunities because they're able to live in a $2 million house. This country treated them incredibly well and their children got radicalized and tried to murder people.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (16:00)

I tend to think because you worked on Tucker Carlson show at Fox, so you understood the process from producer getting that, transmitting that information to the host Tucker in that case. So the same thing is happening here. But what I actually believe here is this is confirmation bias run amok. So if you show these images, I've got them in the chat here. Look at Axios. When they first described this event over the weekend. Explosive device thrown outside New York City Mayor Mamdani's residence. You could see abc, ABC made a bigger deal about Jake Lang, who was the anti Muslim protestor in front of the mansion, than they did about the bombs going being thrown. So what happened here was you had a bunch of confirmation bias with the producers that are 20 somethings that didn't check their work. They believed the first story out of the legacy media because the legacy media is loathe to point out the obvious that Islamic Americans, in this case Muslims have a terror problem. They didn't want to bring that up. And so she saw the initial reporting, ran with it, didn't think there was any problem with it. I think it's confirmation bias run amok. And we see this by the way, with the assassination of Charlie. Legacy news media like Jimmy Kimmel went out and said it was MAGA who did it. Do you know that there's still only like 30 or 40% of the American population that understands that it was a left winger who killed Charlie.

Blake (17:23)

You know, I wish I could entirely blame the left for that one.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (17:27)

Well, I wish I could too. But there is an apparatus, there's a machine of media that whitewashes over the sins of the left because they don't want to admit the truth, that yes, you have a political violence problem on the left. Yes, Muslims commit terror and we should be honest about this instead of. You see this in Canada, you have a trans shooter and they call it, what do they call it? A person, like a mass person, a shooting person. I forget. But the point is they didn't want to admit they were trans. Okay, this is a problem with the legacy news media is they don't want to admit that Their narratives have completely fallen apart. And that's what I think happened here. I think. Abby Phillips. Why? Why blame cunning when incompetence will do? Imagine being a young woman, just finding out that you're pregnant, not knowing where to go or what to do, not even knowing exactly what is going on in your body while the whole world tells her it's just a clump of cells. You and I, we both know the truth. We know it is a baby. And once she has an ultrasound that you provide and she sees the truth of the baby growing inside of her, you help her choose life. When you join us in providing ultrasounds with preborn and she sees her baby and hears her baby's heartbeat, you will double the likelihood that she will choose life. And 100% of what you give goes to providing ultrasounds with 100% preborn separately. Fundraises for administrative costs. $280 can save 10 babies. $28 a month can save a baby a month all year long. And a $15,000 gift. I know there's some of you out there that can afford this $15,000 gift will provide a complete ultrasound machine that will save thousands of babies for years and years to come. Call 83333 or click on the preborn banner at charliekirk.com today. Again, that's 833-850-2229 or click on the preborn banner@charliekirk.com welcoming back to the show, one of the fan favorites, one of our favorites is Kane over at Citizen Free Press. Kane, welcome back, my friend. We wanted.

Kane (19:38)

Thank you, thank you.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (19:39)

Yeah, we wanted to get your. By the way, we have a fancy new phone graphic for you there that we put together.

Kane (19:44)

How about that? Yeah, Smoking cigarette in the bad days.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (19:47)

Yeah, we got a little color there for you. So, Kane, I wanted to get your vibe check on the Citizen Free Press on the CFP Nation there about what they're feeling about this Iran strike. How's it going? How much patience do they have? Are people freaking out yet or are we good?

Kane (20:08)

Yeah, well, you saw probably in the stack yesterday the Quinnipiac poll that showed that 85% of Republicans are supporting President Trump in the military operation. And you probably also saw last week the poll from CBS that I put a couple headlines up about that that showed that this was kind of, you know, the approval was sort of a time based approval that if, that, if the, the operation lasted less than plural months. So we can assume that they were, you know, most readers were thinking eight weeks if it lasts less than eight weeks. It was, it had a plus 52 rating, was 76 to 24. And then if it lasted longer than eight weeks, in other words, if it became months, it dropped to a minus 8 approval. So now getting to the base, at least as it's represented by, by, you know, my audience at Citizen free press, it's 100% approval, man. People, you know, look as, as you well know, it's a super involved kind of news junkie website. So the people who were in my open thread, the thousands of people who read it every day, they know everything that's going on. If the President had a quote in the last hour, it's likely in the stack and they know about it. So these people are fully aware that Trump wants to end this war quickly. And you and I were texting last night and then, you know, I wake up today and there's that quote from Trump saying, I, you know, most of the targets are gone. I can end the war anytime I want. So Trump is obviously very, very, let's just say he's very aware of how the base feels about forever wars and, and he wants to end it quickly. So, so he's got no, you know, it's, it's completely different. For example, when I link to a tweet or something in X post and I happen to go over there and I read the replies, like there's a lot of, you know, there's a lot of negativity towards, towards the military operation there and you just don't see it on my site. And again, I think it's because my readers are a bit more mature. They understand that Trump does this, that he likes to handle his business and finish. And they're giving the president, you know, they trust him, basically. They're giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (22:19)

So is there any concern, though, if President Trump just declares victory when you don't have a regime toppled?

Kane (22:27)

Right.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (22:27)

We're seeing that the Ayatollah's son, who we haven't seen yet, cuz apparently he's been injured in some attack, at least that's the assumption. Is there? I mean, could you declare victory without replacing the regime? I mean, this, for all intents and purposes, his wife was killed, his dad was killed, his daughter was killed. I mean, this guy's not gonna be friendly to us.

Kane (22:51)

No, he's not. No. And I had the same thought regarding all of his family members that have perished. You know, this guy is probably on a certain, to a certain extent, on a suicide mission just to take the job is probably a suicide mission. I mean, Israel hinted pretty aggressively yesterday that they're gonna go after him. You know that. But to your point about can Trump declare victory when he doesn't have regime change, when he doesn't have complete and, you know, and well, look, I don't think it'll stop him. So there's the first thing, I think Trump will still declare victory. Will the people accept that declaration? For the most part, I think they will. I think people understand that regime change is really, really sticky and difficult and that's how you end up in a six month war or a one year or in the case of Iraq, a multi year war. Right. Really get it. So a slight little tangent I put in the stack yesterday that Israel, it was Netanyahu's direct message to the Iranian people, talking about how there will be actions coming in the next few days slash weeks that will really set them, will set the people up to take over the, you know, to do it themselves. So, you know, the long winded answer to your question about whether he can declare victory without regime change, I think the people will forget him. I think, you know, just getting rid of the Ayatollah is enough of a headline that I, that I really think that that will give him a positive, you know, will give Trump some benefit. And, but yeah, I mean, if you ask Democrats, yeah, they're going to point out, you know, if regime change isn't successful, they're going to point that out at every opportunity. So it's not going to be a clear cut argument. But I think that if you ask me whether it's a successful, look, if we destroy how many thousand ballistic missiles in all of their launchers and destroy their manufacturing capabilities for these advanced weapons, I think all of that makes the operation a success. If he wanted to end it today, I would consider it a success.

Blake (24:49)

Well, the obvious thing that comes to mind is what if Iran says, actually we're just not, we're not freeing up the Strait of Hormuz until maybe we get concessions from you. A thing I worry about is a lot of people are saying he should declare victory and go home. It is easier to start a conflict than to end one. And you do need, to some extent, you need Iran's agreement. They've been shooting missiles at the Gulf states, they're shooting missiles at Israel, they've been shooting missiles at our bases. What if the president declares victory and they say we're going to keep shooting missiles?

Kane (25:21)

Then Trump probably says, pulls up, well, we're not quite done Yet, I mean, I would imagine that Israel. Let's talk about Israel first. They've got to have a list of targets that say six weeks long, eight week long, eight weeks long. least we probably have the same list. I imagine Trump could say, I mean, look, the guy, the guy, you know, he juts and jives. He can, he can move. If, if Iran continued to target ships in the Strait of Hormuz, I imagine Trump would. Would double back down and say, we're going back in for, you know, for three days worth of strikes. I don't, you know, I don't fully understand the geography there, but I would imagine we started blowing up the ships, right? Trump claimed we blew up 10 ships that lay mines yesterday. So I would imagine that Trump would just sort of restart it. But it's complicated. Blake, you're absolutely correct. It is not easy to end these things. And so we're all sort of speculating how it's going to go. But I'm just sort of saying that I think Trump has enough positive things in his favor that, you know, that he could get away with it on a, an approval basis if it ended tomorrow or Friday, let's say. And they asked people, I think he'd probably get a 60, 40 approval on the operation, maybe 65, 35. And that would include Democrats.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (26:35)

Yeah, I'm guessing. I think you're right. We had Robert Barnes on the show. A lot of people got up in arms about that. But, I mean, his point was pretty clean cut. He said the longer this war draws out, the more risk politically that President Trump is going to endure and absorb. And I think that point is fair. Right. I mean, we've seen that the fraying of the coalition is coming mostly with people that we brought into the coalition in 2024. So new entrants into the coalition, that would be Hispanic voters, that would be African American men, that would be young voters. Those are the parts of the coalition that is fraying the quickest. And so to get in and get out quickly, I think there is political upside there. And, you know, and I would just underscore the point with this, that President Trump is the best salesman we've seen politically in a generation. I mean, he can sell this to the public, I have no doubt. But, yeah, there'll be a lot of, I would say, sniping from the left. But remember this, that President Trump, we were critics of the way this effort was sold at the beginning. I think they've done a much better job highlighting the ballistic missile capabilities, highlighting the launchers the Navy. And they can, I think definitively and honestly say we've had success on those fronts. Let's pack it in. We're going to, if they, if they cooperate now, we're going to go home. If they don't, we'll hit them again.

Kane (28:00)

I think that's fair. I think that's a fair assumption. And I think that's likely to be the outcome. You know, whether it is this week or next week, I think that's essentially the case that we'll make. And look, the first one was a 12 day war, right? And it surprised everyone when Trump, he made that visit over to Knesset and you know, we brought our bombers in and we bombed and then, and then Trump declared the war was over. I sort of have felt from the beginning that this is a 21 day war. So 21 days puts it at a week from this coming Saturday. That gives him 10 to 11 more days of 24 hour sorties to hit as many targets as they can. And then regarding Blake's point, which is likely, I mean, that's really the most likely negative scenario that could occur if we declare an end early, which would be they would continue to attack in the Strait of Hormuz. And so we would have to have a backup plan in place. But I really think it's going to end early. And the other thing is, with all of their missile defense degraded the Israel and with our having done the heavy work with the, with the bunker busters, you know, Israel could probably operate it on their own. After 21 days, they could probably decide what targets they want to hit. And you know, a slight little aside, I would, if someone's going to go after the new supreme leader, which Israel has claimed they will, you know, I want it to be Israel. I'm fine with the fact that the CIA provided intelligence that, that located, you know, for that initial strike 10 days ago that located the Ayatollah. But, and I'm, and I'm happy for our intelligence to be involved in this next one, but I would be more comfortable if it were Israel.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (29:45)

Yeah, I think a lot of people feel there is a, there is, it's kind of a distinction without difference. But I think you're right. I think a lot of people would agree with you. Cain, there's a troubling, potentially article out of Axios that suggests that the White House is going to pivot on messaging. No more deport them all, no more mass deportation talk. We're just getting criminal illegals out. Your take? Yep.

Kane (30:07)

My take is it's all about semantics, right? You saw me in the stack a couple weeks ago when I laid out the numbers of. You have to start with how many illegal aliens are actually here. And I'll try to do this quickly in 20 seconds or so. Ann Coulter wrote a piece back 10, 15 years ago where she utilized an analysis that was done by Bear Stearns. Bear Stearns is one of the investment banks that failed during the bailout. They were the first one and they were taken over by JP Morgan. But anyway, Bear Stearns did this analysis in 2005 where they said, and they analyzed state tax receipts and they went through all 50 states and they came up with a number that was close to 20 million. So 20 million illegals in 2005. We know that Biden, the official numbers are what, seven and a half million came in in his last four years. And then there were gotaways. So let's just, let's be kind and add, call it 10 million to the 20 million. So we have at least 30 million illegal aliens in this country even with self deportation, which DHS said was 2.2 million last year, in addition to what 600. They said they, they physically deported over slightly over 600,000. So the combined number was 3 million. So let's say that we had that, that same success for these next three years where we got 3 million each year, 2.2 from, from self deportation and close to 800,000 from physical deportations. The point is that would only add up to 12 million. There are 30 million here. So I have always objected to this language of ma, of deport them all. I don't think it's possible to deport them all. And it kind of frightens people, I think. What that Axios article. Now first thing, I had some doubts about that article because it quoted one guy, right? It was one, it was James, I forget him all of a sudden. But it quoted one source who having met with the private retreat of House Republicans, told them to change their messaging. So that's why I said semantics. I really think that they're just saying that the phrase mass deportations isn't polling very well anymore. It's not a positive phrase that people that independents are reacting to, right? They're looking forward to the midterms. This is all about how the, how the independents are going to vote in the midterms. So it's a phrasing thing. I don't think it means that anything has to change about the underlying way that we go about it. And the last point, I'll Try to do this in 20 seconds too before I throw it back. It's, it's a complicated thing. We do not see these really ugly scenes in red states. Why? Because the red state jails and sheriffs are cooperating with us. It's these blue states, these sanctuary states where we get no cooperation. We don't know when these people are getting out of jail so we sort of have to go grab them on the streets. So that, that's sort of why Minnesota happened. So I say continue, deport as many as you possibly can, criminal or quote unquote non criminal even though it's a criminal violation to come into this country illegally. Deport as many as you can. Let's try to do 3 million a year and I'll be happy, I'll be thrilled if we got rid of 10 million illegal aliens at the end of four years.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (33:14)

Thrilled, yeah. I think we made this point earlier Kaine. I think there's a couple things we could do that will actually increase numbers and get more actual deportations with less drama. Number one, Mark Wayne Mullen has proven that he can work across the aisle. He can quell some of the just the knee jerk resistance from Democrats. Sanctuary cities, get them to cooperate. Follow the Tom Homan model in Minneapolis where you get state and local counties, prisons to cooperate, jails to cooperate. When they pull these people over for a traffic stop, whatever there's a detainer request, get them out. That's how Obama achieved the numbers that he did with, you know, not nearly half as much energy devoted to deportations. Alright, so that's one, go after the employers. Then three, you increase the incentive for self deportations up the number. This is a simple market analysis. When you put a price on something, you'll get this many customers. If you drop the price or you make it more attractive, you'll get more customers. So let's see how we can do this to actually save money. We've got all this money that funded the one big beautiful bill funded addition, ICE agents, judges, that sort of thing. Let's see how much we can get just from self deportations. I think that is a truly, truly untapped resource yet. I think we've seen some but there's much more to go. So I'm all for creativity. I think you can actually apply additional pressures. I've heard ideas like going after the international airports. I mean listen Louisiana, New York, they get a ton of business through international airports. Well if you're not going to be enforcing immigration law in your local municipalities, your local Cities. Well, then maybe we shouldn't be supporting your international tourists either. You know, I'm just. Maybe that seems harsh to some people, but there are other levers to pull here to bring these sanctuary cities to heel, people. And this is my final warning. I'm monologuing a bit, but this is my final warning. If you do not give the base something to vote for in the midterms, they will not show up. And midterm elections are base elections. Those are turnout elections. You need your most reliable people generating enthusiasm, generating activity and energy so that people show up to the polls. Final two minutes here, Blake. I don't know if you have a thought on that, but I just think

Blake (35:34)

it's so essential for the country to deliver on this.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (35:38)

Yeah, you make that point again and

Blake (35:39)

again, and it's important, like the politics. It's almost like to zoom out. You look at the politics and say, make it work. You've got to make it work politically, because the thing itself is essential. I mean, it's just like we should view it at least as important as whatever's going on with Iran. You know, you would say, does the base or not so much, does the public really want to bomb Iran? Well, the polls say pretty ambivalent about it, but if they were close to getting a nuclear bomb, if the threat was of a serious nature, the president just has to do it. He has to do it, and then you sell it because you had to do it. Same thing with deportations. This is an existential threat to the country. You've got to make the people who are here illegally go home. And you sell it however you can. You have to approach it with that attitude.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (36:29)

Amen. Yeah. Final minute to you. Expediency.

Kane (36:32)

Yeah, expediency. I like the point. You know, you mentioned something about Obama deportation numbers, so that triggered something in my head. That's the big mystery, right? We've seen it. How did Obama deport so many? How did Biden deport so many? It turns out there's a fudging of the numbers there, of course. And you can look this up, and I want the audience, if they aren't aware of it, to look it up. What it was is the border was wide open with Obama and Biden. Correct. So they had a huge number, a huge pool, millions, in this case, of fresh people at the border every year that they were able to, many of which whose asylum claims were denied or whatever, they were able to quickly deport those. So that's how their numbers got stacked. That's how Obama was able to deport three and a half million. Trump doesn't have the benefit of any of that because the border is effectively shut. And any traveling migrant from Central or South America knows that the border is shut. So they're not showing up. So we don't have those easy deportations. So that's. I just thought that number always astounded me, like, how the heck.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (37:37)

Deeper in the numbers. Kane, A lot of those were just prison transfers, Jail transfers, too. So, yeah, citizen, check it out today. Kane, you're the man. We'll talk.

Kane (37:47)

Thank you, guys.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (37:48)

Thanks, brother.

Blake (37:51)

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Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (39:01)

I wanted to highlight a story that maybe you've heard of, maybe you haven't, but there's a massive show on Amazon prime that's hosted by Mr. Beast. Now, if you don't know who MrBeast is, then we've got a whole other conversation.

Blake (39:12)

I don't have any kids under the

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (39:13)

age of 15, probably. MrBeast is wildly popular with young people on social media, YouTube, and now he hosts a game called Beast Games on Amazon Prime Video. And we have the holy.

Blake (39:25)

Whoa. He has 4,470 million YouTube subscribers.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (39:29)

Yeah, it's big.

Blake (39:31)

That would be the second largest country or third largest country in the world.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (39:34)

He's very popular. Very popular. And one of the contestants on season two, the runner up, in fact, is a gentleman named Corey Simms. And we have him on the show now. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show, Corey.

Corey Simms (39:46)

Thank you so Much. It's truly an honor and a blessing to be on your show. I truly am so grateful. Thank you.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (39:51)

Awesome. Well, you can already, the audience can probably already hear why you've been invited on the show just by your tone. So you are a Navy veteran and you competed for 42 days in this high stakes reality competition hosted by MrBeast. You really caught people's attention, not only because you were the runner up, apparently I didn't see the finale, but apparently could have gone either way for $5 million. But you caught people's attention because you, the way you conducted yourself on the show, you were respectful, you prayed, you didn't backstab, apparently. Explain the show for the audience and how you conducted yourself, why you chose to conduct yourself that way.

Corey Simms (40:36)

Absolutely. So that's a great question. So Beast Games is a really interesting social experiment, so to speak. It's kind of put you up against people. You're obviously competing to win $5 million. So you either get the option and the choice to be a hero and do the right thing, or most likely, which most people end up doing is unfortunately the money gets in their face and they turn into the villain. Unfortunately. Me, I played the game exactly how I live my life, you know, with integrity, with honesty, and most important, just always knowing that God is watching me in everything that I do. So I always try to do the right thing, no matter what.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (41:15)

Well, I think you're a guy that Charlie would have really appreciated. And I know, yeah, I know that you probably have some thoughts about Charlie and his legacy. But talk about this point about $5 million and what that did to people. We live in a time of social media influencers that are chasing clicks. Seems like principles and values. Their faith seems to go out the window the second there is money to be had. You were looking at $5 million. You got to the final two. Explain what that dynamic is like, right, of being in front of $5 million, having a chance to get it, having the temptation to be conniving, backstabbing. What is the point? Explain the game a little bit and then that temptation of the money.

Corey Simms (42:05)

Absolutely. First, I just want to say I was heartbroken what happened to Charlie. Truly, truly tears in my eyes, sad. And that was just a horrible thing to happen. And Beast Games, back to your question about Beast Games, it was more like it's just one of those competitions where people get the option to either lie to each other, be honest with each other. And me, I just played the game with all the integrity I could. Just trying to be doing the right things, saying the right things, so to speak. And by the grace of God, and only by the grace of God, I made it all the way to the end. The final challenge, it was me against Tyler, and it was just one of those weird challenges where it was based on chance. Unfortunately, if it would have been more physical or mental, it might have been a little bit something different. But it was based on, you know, chance and kind of like bluffing, lying, and stuff like that, which obviously I'm not good at. That's why I just kind of started spinning the suitcases around because I didn't want him to see if I was lying or not, obviously. So it's one of those things.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (43:04)

Interesting. All right, so we have a clip from you. After you lost came second best. But again, it was a game of chance. Here's SOT 17.

Corey Simms (43:16)

It still was one of the best experiences ever.

Alex Marlowe (43:21)

It's been awesome watching.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (43:24)

Unfortunately, man, when I met your wife and your boys.

Charlie Kirk (43:29)

Come on, man.

Blake (43:30)

That was awesome.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (43:33)

No, not at all. You're gonna make us so proud.

Alex Marlowe (43:37)

I love you guys so much.

Kane (43:39)

Love you, dad.

Corey Simms (43:46)

I'm really happy for Tyler. If somebody could have won other than me, I'm happy that I was in. And I'm gonna love the Lord in the good times and the bad times.

Kane (43:55)

Corey has officially been eliminated.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (43:59)

And this hurts. Very dramatic. I mean, how long was that drop?

Corey Simms (44:10)

Yeah, it's probably about. Probably 20ft, maybe not too far.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (44:15)

Wow. I mean, so again, for those in the audience that maybe weren't aware of this show or didn't follow it, this is a. A really big deal. You have now come out with a book, and I love the title, what 5 million can't buy Image 184. You came out with it. How has your life changed? What did you learn? What? I mean, I'm assuming you've got a whole big new social media following, and what are your plans and what do you want to do with that?

Corey Simms (44:41)

Absolutely. So, first and foremost, I just always want to shine God's amazing light on everybody. That's my mission in life. And I wrote the book. It was completely inspired by God. One morning, I woke up after I came back from Beast Games, and I was laying in bed, and he put it in my spirit. He said, write a book. So of course I want to be obedient. I'm going to listen to whatever he tells me to do. So I just started writing. And honestly, the whole writing process, you know, reflecting on everything that happened, the emotions and everything, it really helped me even draw Closer to God through that entire thing. It was just amazing. It was truly remarkable. And now I just, I want to go out, my whole platform is just to. To shine his amazing light and help people, inspire people, inspire people with their faith, their character, their integrity, and just help people as much as I can.

Blake (45:28)

I guess you've probably fielded questions like this, but obviously a lot of people who are on these videos, this platform, like, they become fan favorites, they become notable in their own right, and they're often requested to come back in follow up videos. Is there any chance of that sort of thing happening?

Corey Simms (45:46)

A lot of people have been messaging me saying, I'm sure Mr. Beast will bring you back to one of his challenges and stuff. And I guess we'll just have to wait and see whenever everything's according to God's plan. So whatever he has planned for me, I'm more than happy to do it.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (45:59)

Well, I know that Mr. Beast has a huge following young people, and you now have a platform in some ways not too dissimilar from Charlie, you know, to reach the next generation. Final minute here, Corey. What's your, what's your message to them? What resonates with them? What are they asking you? One minute?

Corey Simms (46:21)

Absolutely. So my main thing is just to inspire hope with people. And the most important thing I could tell anybody, especially kids, the young, young Gen Z, always trust in God. Always have faith in God, always trust his timing and always know that he is working behind the scenes always for your good.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (46:42)

Amen. Corey, Congratulations on winning $17,000.

Corey Simms (46:48)

Thank you.

Blake (46:49)

Bit of a gap. He's very harsh like that.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (46:52)

5,017,000.

Corey Simms (46:54)

Small gap.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (46:54)

Small gap. But you know, God is faithful. You're right. And we've certainly seen that in our own ways, despite things not working out the way we wanted them to either. So God bless you and I will pray for you that your fruit would be great and that your mission would or your ministry would be great and that God's name would be made great through you. God bless you, man.

Corey Simms (47:17)

Thank you.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (47:17)

We'll see you around.

Corey Simms (47:18)

God bless you guys. Thank you so much.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (47:19)

Thanks.

Corey Simms (47:20)

Thank you.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (47:21)

That's a fun one.

Blake (47:24)

I just love how he has his 53,000 followers on Instagram. I know it's. Some of that is for those who do not follow the Beast. It's like anyone who's just on his videos. Can people become famous because they're in one random video of his?

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (47:39)

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Blake (49:00)

Take a guess. They all moved to Florida.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (49:03)

Yeah. They enter their retirement phase.

Blake (49:05)

Okay, so, I mean, so it's just very funny here. Like, the timing is almost perfect because Washington, despite being a blue state, it was one of the handful of states with no state income tax. Very, very notoriously, I believe people in South Washington, they would live in Washington, pay no income tax, and they would drive and do their shopping in Oregon, which has no. Yeah. No sales tax. And there. It's a blue state. You kind of just have to pass an income tax or you're not properly progressive anymore.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (49:36)

Yeah. And so get kicked out of the club if you don't.

Blake (49:39)

So Washington is just. Is now enacting a state income tax. One of their lawmakers was assuring people that, you know, rich people are not going to leave. It's not. That's not gonna happen. And lo and behold, today Howard Schultz announces he is relocating to Florida, almost certainly to escape the burden of that.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (49:59)

Yeah, so it's 9.9% tax on income over a million dollars. So it's 10% tax is a legit. That's a big tax to put on. So he has this statement here. He says, you know, he talks about how 1979, they drove across the country. Now they're golden retriever. Yeah. Start a new job, place called Starbucks. Back then, the pike place Starbucks only sold whole bean coffee. Today it's the most visited Starbucks in the world. So they talk about growing it. And the Schultz family Foundation. Critical work to help others in the community. But the reaction online has been nothing, let's just say subtle. You've got Mike Cernovich saying this, he's scum that he has been. He went all in on the woke and the riots and that this guy's gonna go to Florida and that all these rhinos are gonna cozy up to him because he's got money and we need to stop bowing before bail. Pretty intense commentary from him. What does Rufo say?

Blake (50:56)

Well, I think Chris Rufo has a very adroit take because it's one we've seen over and over. Howard Schultz spent decades virtue signaling for every new demand of progressivism. And now he's leaving the rest of us. Chris Ruffo lives in Washington. Of course he's leaving the rest of us to deal with the consequences. A truly dishonorable end to his tenure as a Washingtonian. And that really is worth emphasizing that Seattle was one of the nicest cities in America. It was an iconic city in America.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (51:26)

You got.

Blake (51:27)

It was kind of the city of the 90s. We got all of that grunge music out of. Out of Seattle. And now I feel like Seattle's probably most notorious for being the city that had chop and the city that has a ton of homeless people and basically became ungovernable.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (51:43)

Well, and they're just getting more and more radical. They have essentially a communist mayor I call communist. She says she's a socialist. They've got fraud out the union, huge amounts of fraud.

Blake (51:52)

They were, I mean, they were a tech hub of the United States. They still have it. I mean, Microsoft is up there.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (51:56)

Amazon or Boeing moved.

Blake (51:58)

Yeah, yeah. They're the state of. They're the state of Boeing, Boeing went downhill. They're the state of Amazon, they're the state of Microsoft. But you don't hear about new tech stuff coming out of Seattle nearly as much. It's not the city it once was. And that's substantially because progressivism has a way of ruining the things that are driving prosperity in America.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (52:18)

Yeah, the prosperity comes, they get progressive, they kill future prosperity. It's a pretty common so. And by the way, if you are a major tech company like Microsoft, you can afford the regulatory burdens, the tax burdens, but if you're a startup, they kill you in the crib. You can't get off the ground anymore. Well done, Howard Schultz, for helping contribute to create the problem that has mired Seattle in a malaise of its own making. And then fleeing for the sunnier shores and your $44 million penthouse that you have just purchased in Miami.

Blake (52:53)

And a bonus warning, which is in addition, Starbucks, they're not moving their hq, they're just building a bonus HQ of sorts of Nashville. So we've got the billionaire moving to Florida. We have the major corporation massively expanding in a red state. We've seen that happen over and over. Because the red states are more business friendly, the red states have lower taxes. We have to make sure we do not fall for this. Do not allow Starbucks to lobby for a bunch of blue nonsense in Tennessee. Do not allow your new billionaire arrival to abruptly campaign for all the things that ruined the state he just abandoned. Because they will do both of those things.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (53:30)

Exactly well. And by the way, this is what bothers me when you see like Hewlett Packard moving to Dallas or whatever, or Texas, maybe it was Austin. They're gonna bring all their woke ideologies. You have to. I mean, I'm crazy on this. I would completely say, hey, if you wanna relocate to a new state, you don't get to vote for five years, maybe 10. I think those ideas are.

Blake (53:49)

It is of existential importance, arguably for the entire planet that we not allow the red States of America to be ruined. Because literally the red, they're basically the only engines of continued innovation and prosperity, arguably in the Western world. Europe is stagnant red states, Canada's committing suicide, literally.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (54:06)

Red states are literally the last firewall for freedom in the West. Yeah.

Blake (54:10)

I have a friend in Austin and he says the most important thing is that Texas remain Republican. If Texas stops being Republican, it's over.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (54:16)

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Kane (56:40)

According to, according to my average of polls.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (56:42)

What we've been looking at is Every day since March 12, 2025, President Trump has been underwater and we've been counting up the days. We've shown this slide a number of times and we have now reached the point in which Trump has been swimming with the fishes for a year. He's underwater. There is a little bit of bleed on some of the coalition with the Iran strikes. What do you make of it?

Alex Marlowe (57:04)

Yeah, first of all, gentlemen, always nice to see you. I always miss it when I'm away. It hasn't been too long. But when we were on together right after the initial raid on Iran, Rich was on with us and he was saying that flat out this is going to be unpopular and I don't think anyone was going to deny that. It's because even if Trump draws an inside straight and does a great job dismantling Iran's nuclear capabilities, it's just there's not that many constituents that wanted to see a war play out. And it does create a lot of complications economically when people want us to focus at home and on things like affordability. And it's going to drive prices up, it's going to drive gas prices up, and it brings up other issues, like we haven't fully restocked our strategic oil reserves, which Biden drained for his political purposes. And so there's a lot of complicated downstream effects. And I do think one thing the administration could do a little better is to point out the nuclear threat of Iran. And I think we just kind of acted like that was over. And I think that was a big mistake, is that Iran was pursuing a nuclear weapon. They were the most likely to get it of anyone in the world who wants it. And if they did get it, they've been calling us the Great Satan forever. If they did that, then of course they would want to use it, but also creates all these complications, like all these other countries who don't have nuclear weapons who say, well, if Iran's got one, we got to go get one. And it could really put us on the brink of Armageddon. And this never came up. I don't know why this never came up, that we didn't point out that this was a real threat. Of all the fake threats we hear about, we never heard about this real one. And so it just puts the President politically behind the eight ball. But he assumes in a couple months time he'll have won, he'll declared victory. Remember, they've got a cardboard cutout leading their country right now, which is sort of hilarious. He's like the Yeti or the Chupacabra. We've never seen him before. No one knows where he is. He doesn't give speeches, he doesn't give interviews. And so if Trump can declare victory and then come home quickly, he could still net out in the end. But it's a tough political proposition. It just is.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (58:53)

Yeah. And apparently we haven't seen him because he was injured in an Israeli bomb strike, so a missile strike. So we're not exactly sure where this guy is or in what condition he's in, but I heard somebody refer to him as the Hunter Biden of Iran, which I thought was funny. I mean. So, yeah, and here's my take on it. It's no secret we have been a little bit reticent about going to war. Charlie was reticent about regime change. We share those concerns. But once the president hits go, we've got his back. We're gonna trust him to make these tough decisions.

Kane (59:26)

And.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (59:26)

And I do agree with you, Alex. There is a story to tell. Blake has framed it this way, that it could be the last Middle east conflict that we have to wage. Right. If it's conducted the right way. And I think that geopolitically, you see how this could really put the screws to China and the ccp. You could see how this could help us from a geopolitical strategic standpoint. You could see how what we did in Venezuela, taking the head of the snake there, could end up bringing Cuba back into good, steady with the United States. All of these things could be really powerful and could pay dividends for generations. The concern, though, is short term. Right. And so I want to bring up this graphic here. Oh, yeah, we do have a picture of the cardboard cutout, but I don't know what status our computer is in right now. We had a little bit of, oh, there it is. There's a card.

Alex Marlowe (60:14)

This is mind blowing. I mean, how could this be real? Is that what they're praying to? They're praying to a false idol now?

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (60:20)

It's very, very weird that the golden

Blake (60:23)

calf was made of gold.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (60:25)

Yeah. He doesn't want to poke his head out of hiding because it does seem like Israel has intentions to take him down.

Alex Marlowe (60:31)

Kissing it. They kiss the cardboard cutout of a guy no one knows. This guy is. He's a ghost. He doesn't exist. And say that James Carville's out there saying, oh, he's a big threat. He's even more radical. It's like, we don't know anything about this. He doesn't do interviews. Carville's not up on his podcast. This ayatollah's not. You know, he's not out there creating content for people. He's just behind the scenes, if he even exists at all.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (60:53)

Totally. I think the whole thing's bizarre. But what else is new from the Iranian regime? Let's go ahead and show image 187. All right, so this is a pooled survey data, strength in numbers, Verisite polls, and they've conducted it from May of 2025 through February of 2026. And this is a graph of among Trump supporters. Okay, so every bar you're seeing here is a Trump supporter, like a cohort with over 65 family income, over 100,000. White, college, white, non college. And if you look down at the bottom, the groups that he's losing support most with are going to be AAPI. So Pacific Islanders. Yeah. And Asians, Hispanics, 18 to 29 year olds make under $50,000. 30 to 44 year olds and blacks. These are Trump voters that he's bleeding support with. It does seem like these would be the people that we brought into the coalition most recently.

Blake (61:51)

Yeah, it's the marginal members of the coalition.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (61:54)

Yeah, they were in wet cement. So let's play this out the next coming weeks, months ahead, what do we do to shore up the base, get enthusiasm back up and bring these people back into the fold?

Alex Marlowe (62:08)

Okay, first of all, this is a great question. First of all, you've got to do what I've said, which is we've got to go back and make the case. And we really were. There was a legitimate nuclear threat that Iran posed and they were relentless. Trump should also remind people that one year ago he wrote Iran a letter that said no more nuclear development, no more funding of terrorist proxies in the region, no more pursuit of ballistic missiles. And Iran did all three of those things. And our president's word has to mean something. The next thing is that we need to, after we've made that case that there was legitimate pretext for it, then we need to declare victory and go home, put the Mission Accomplished banner up and come back and say, we did it, we flipped it. We're not sticking around with regime change, ground troops and whatever is gonna be there is going to do better. And then we need to start working on affordability. We need to make sure the Strait of Hormuz is open. They're stopping all these tankers that could be getting oil to the west now. But who's still getting their oil? Russia and China. They're still getting their oil. That's, of course, a bad look. Trump's aware of this. I guarantee you he's thinking about it right now as we're having this conversation. That's gotta stop and it's gotta never return. And then he needs to go out and make the, the case that we did make peace in the Middle East. It's over. This was a war we didn't start. It was started against us almost half a century ago. It's the last Middle east war. I love that framing from Blake. And now it's over. And then hopefully the prosperity starts happening.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (63:25)

Yeah. I'm reminded back to the campaign days when you would see. I remember there was a local news Reporter here in Phoenix. But I think it ended up going national and it was a Hispanic voter. And their case for voting for Trump was very simple. Under Trump, there was more money in my wallet. There was just more prosperity. It is almost as simple as that. And I don't know that economically we've gotten to that point yet. I don't know that we've made the case yet. Trump is out in Kentucky. I think he's going to be campaigning against Thomas Massie, but he's also going to be talking about Trump Rx today. I mean, you got to let Trump be Trump. That's my thing. You got to let Trump be Trump. But listen, Trump rx, these populist conservative wins, banning stock trading, getting the Save America act passed. We need to get some wins on the board. And that's the warning to Congress right now. Thune. I don't even know what to do with Thune. I got so frustrated at Thune, I literally tweeted a video of him with just gobbledygook letters because it was like, we don't have the votes. Be a leader. Go get the votes. You know, this is your job to go figure out and find a way. Zero urgency, zero respect for what the base is asking for. And if you do that over and over and over again, you're gonna bleed support, you're gonna bleed enthusiasm from your most enthusiastic supporters.

Alex Marlowe (64:44)

Yeah, exactly. So we gotta keep the enthusiastic people, high energy. And the new members of the coalition that they really liked, that Trump was making things, they were thinking about their bottom line and not getting us into wars. So can we undo this soon? I. I think so. I think Trump's keenly aware of this. We know gas prices always go up in the summer anyway. We're waiting for a lot of those big, beautiful bills, tax cut, the. What's the season that we're talking about with everyone's going to get their tax rebates back. All that. We got to let that happen. We got to let it play out. But there is some urgency here. We do have an element of a ticking clock.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (65:16)

We. We. Yes. I mean, and Charlie would say this all the time. We have two roads ahead of us. We've got Mamdaniism or we got maga. And voters are gonna be making up their mind in the next couple of. Well, if they haven't already made up their mind, it's gotta get them back. I wanna get your thoughts here. Alex, the CNN debacle, Abby, Phillip saying that, you know, they were actually just attacking Mayor Mamdani's. House. They wanted to attack the first Muslim mayor, which makes absolutely zero sense. She repeated it multiple times, then corrected it. Was this an innocent mistake or was this gaslighting and lying from the legacy media?

Alex Marlowe (65:56)

I mean, it's hard to know. I mean, I just can't believe they're always giving ISIS the benefit of the doubt. There is this meme that a lot of people are going to remember that I think may have originated with my writer, John Nolte. But a lot of people have echoed it, which is that CNN is isis. And it was always sort of a troll, but now they're defending isis and they're saying ISIS is coming after the mayor of New York. And they're not. They're coming after guys who are against radical Islam, which is you're allowed to protest off in this country and not have CNN just continue to lie about you. But they can't stop doing it. It's nonstop. They were defending him. And then Abby Phillip goes right out on her show and says that it was actually attack on Mamdani and they were. That tweet that they deleted where they act as though these guys were coincidentally in. In New York and spontaneously decided they'd put out a nail bomb and try to incinerate civilians. It's just crazy stuff that this is allowed. And I can't help but think Netflix almost bought them. And the only reason why Netflix wasn't able to take them over is because they refused to drop Susan Rice from their board, who is only there for purely political purposes to get Obama ism into our entertainment. So our media continues to be a huge disgrace, and thankfully the people mostly see through it.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (67:08)

Yeah, well, and then a news story out of CBS confirms what Nick Shirley already told us.

Blake (67:14)

Nick Shirley, also the Trump administration Dr. Oz went, he did a video in Los Angeles and he says, I'm here in la. There's a bunch of hospices. I think he went to Van Nuys in the Valley. And he basically. I don't know if I said that. Right, but you said it. He's like, there's 500 hospices in a four block radius or something, and a bunch of them are fraudulent. Governor Gavin Newsom said he was being racist and filed a civil rights complaint, said we needed to investigate Dr. Oz for this. CBS News goes, and they go to the exact same location and they say, oh, there's 90 hospices in one building. 70 of them have multiple red flags for fraud. Overall, I think about more than half of the hospices in SoCal had red flags for flood. It's all real. Same thing we heard about the autism centers. That was a big part of the Minnesota fraud. Wall Street Journal just went and looked at a bunch of Medicaid data that was published, and they said they found one in Indiana. It was a piece by piece. Autism centers collected $29 million in Medicaid billing for 84 patients in one year. That is $340,000 per child in one year.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (68:22)

Think about how many taxpayers that is just for one place of fraud.

Blake (68:26)

Your entire lifetime of taxes, if you're an average American, was spent to provide one year of autism care to. To one kid from the center in Indiana.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (68:34)

And so people, just so people understand how it works. Medicare is, of course, federally administered, but hospices must be licensed by the state. So it's up to the state of California in this instance, to issue the licenses. You know something about California fraud there, Alex? You went to Berkeley. You started with Breitbart out of Los Angeles. So the point is you now have CBS covering this. Are we seeing a changing of the guard or is this, you know, we just got lucky once?

Alex Marlowe (69:04)

It's hard to know. I think the stuff is going on at CBS has clearly been a slight improvement over what was there previously. But I've got a lot of nuances that I'm seeing that are not encouraging me completely, that we're going to ever see a complete balance over there. But I'm rooting for it, obviously, because I'd like an informed public. But the thing that's so noteworthy about this particular case, as well as what Nick Shirley found in Minneapolis, is a lot of these blue areas, of which one of which I live in, in California, there's actually a disincentive to solve problems, because to solve a problem like a lot of taxpayer money is getting funded to fake hospices or fake leering centers, or there's actually a way to fix the airport or fix the traffic or fix the homelessness or fix the fire prevention. All of that actually is kind of a dunk on your predecessors who are in your same party. And so there actually is disincentive to try to solve problems in deep blue areas, because all that does is show that the people who are in charge before, who probably endorse you and are probably your friends and are probably help you get donors that they all failed in their tasks. So the Democrats have proven they're willing to elect people with no records or horrible records. So they're basically content to go along and just have this managed decline where Blue areas in this country just get more crime ridden, more expensive, less pleasant to live in. But the people in power get to keep their jobs and they get, you know, podcast invites from left wing influencers and, and they're very happy with this. We can't relate to this. It's very strange to us, but it is very real in this state.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (70:31)

Well, and you see this in Minneapolis as well, where you import a whole group of voters and you're gonna let them get away with the fraud because guess what? They'll vote and block for your party. And this is in California as well. In order to dig out from any of this stuff, you have to offend huge voter blocs because you have to call a spade a spade. Listen, we have a bunch of immigrant crime. They come and they do organized crime and they rent the system and they flee.

Blake (70:55)

And not only is there a bunch of immigrant crime, you have to confront the reality, which is it's a lot easier to organize a big fraud ring if you have ethnic affinities with people. A lot of fraud is ethnic affinity fraud, period. It's just everyone who's observed it and investigated it knows this, and you have to be able to say it and prosecute it. And they're terrified of doing this. And I think it's a huge opportunity for the administration. You know, he again gave the role to Vice President Vance at the State of the Union. I think if they were to find the right way to highlight these fraud rings, dramatically break them up dramatically, indict people, get some deportations, maybe even denaturalize and deport some people who are involved in this, that is a win that the administration can tout. And it's mostly beating up on blue states because they enable it the most.

Alex Marlowe (71:43)

We need a doge like initiative where we go around and we police them. This fraud, it's very easy. And we've seen it from both political parties. Democrats are more efficient at this. But how it works is that you get all this government money allocated towards businesses that are sort of private businesses, but they're not. They're just purely funded by governments. They're sort of NGOs or NGO lights. And that's where all the fraud takes place. And that's how these people get loaded up with millions of dollars. It all becomes revolving door. And you see, you know, Gavin Newsom's wife is going around, she's bagging all this cash, she's paying herself millions of dollars out of a charity that's basically about transing the kids. It should be a front page scandal for everyone. But it's a. We're so used to it now. We're getting numb to the scandals. We're getting numb to all the scandals. And that's very dangerous because then people are just gonna tune out.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (72:27)

Yeah, I think that's a. It's a really fair point. It's a fair warning, actually. I mean, when you think about what happened with Nick Shirley with the Minneapolis fraud ring, the leering centers, that was a huge, huge story. It broke containment. It became a national news story. And then it got bogged down with Renee Good and Alex Preddy when we sent in the surge into Minneapolis. That was a winning issue, though. And if J.D. vance wants to contribute, which I know he does, to winning the midterms and winning in 28, then hitting this hard and really putting some wins on the board will go a long way for that domestic policy agenda that we want to see more of. Alex Marlowe, Check him out. Editor in chief of Breitbart, host the Alex Marlowe Show. Thank you, my friends. Good to see you again.

Alex Marlowe (73:12)

Thanks, guys. See you soon.

Blake (73:13)

Man, I would. I would just love it if hire 1,000 new federal prosecutors. Go find right wingers out of law school and just launch them like nukes. Just destroy fraud. If you blow up one $20 million fraud, you've paid for that lawyer's entire career.

Host (possibly Charlie Kirk or co-host) (73:25)

Amen.

Blake (73:30)

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